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Speaker 1: I Am all In. Let's you.

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Speaker 2: I Am all In with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Everybody Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one of

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Speaker 1: eleven productions iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcast Summer Part two

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Speaker 1: of the Netflix episodes in conjunction with Warner Brothers Pictures.

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Speaker 3: IHeart Podcasts. Listen on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: I Am joined by my Intrepid Cruise. Suzanne French. Danielle

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Speaker 1: Romo will be joining us, and I think Amy is

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Speaker 1: is off on other responsibilities, so we're just gonna get

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Speaker 1: dive right into it. I know we already had a

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Speaker 1: long discussion about this, Amy and I did, and Susanne's

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Speaker 1: going to take us through at Suzanne.

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Speaker 4: I will do that, thank you. So just to jump

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Speaker 4: right in. So the opening is at the stars Hollow pool.

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Speaker 4: Who even knew that stars Hollow had a pool, let alone,

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Speaker 4: one that Laura, I and Rory would hang out at

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Speaker 4: in long sleeves and pants.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: Quick little scene there kind of a little cringey, kind

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Speaker 4: of some fat shaming going on.

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Speaker 3: There a lot of fat shaming going on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was kind of a running thread through the

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Speaker 4: whole first half, like the whole first half of this

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Speaker 4: episode was a little I wasn't a fan. I liked

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Speaker 4: the second half a lot better. I did like in

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Speaker 4: the next scene we get to have April. It was

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Speaker 4: kind of fun to catch up with you know what

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Speaker 4: April's been doing now she's heading off to grad school

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Speaker 4: and that was a cute scene. I don't know about you, guys.

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Speaker 4: One thing I wondered when when Luke and Laurela I

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Speaker 4: were talking about sending her to Germany, and Luke said

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Speaker 4: he had to pay for it, It made me wonder, like,

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Speaker 4: where was Anna in all this?

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Speaker 3: Where did she go? She just pieced out that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of hoping that maybe, like April realized

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Speaker 4: what a crappy thing Anna did by keeping her from

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Speaker 4: her dad, and maybe maybe April cut ties with her.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure it.

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Speaker 3: Was implied that obviously Anna. It was implied that Anna

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Speaker 3: is not in April's life anymore, or at least not

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Speaker 3: helping her with her life anymore. And I feel like

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Speaker 3: we missed out on that story. I wanted to hear it.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to hear what happened to Anna.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there's a lot of unanswered questions there for sure.

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Speaker 5: So the town meeting.

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Speaker 4: I usually like the town meetings in the banter back

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Speaker 4: and forth. This one was a little the whole thing

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Speaker 4: with the air conditioning, it just was a little overplayed.

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Speaker 1: I thought agree.

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Speaker 5: The Something gang was kind of funny.

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Speaker 4: Rory keeps saying I'm not back, I'm not back, I'm

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Speaker 4: not back. That got a little I don't know, I

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Speaker 3: I liked the thirty somethings because I feel like everyone

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Speaker 3: that has moved away from home and goes back to home,

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Speaker 3: there is that group of people that you know from

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Speaker 3: your high school that still live in that community, you know.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I did actually really like that. But the

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Speaker 3: one bone I have to pick is isn't this city

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Speaker 3: so that the town's so small? I feel as if

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Speaker 3: the thirty year olds would all know each other. It

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Speaker 5: That's what I thought too.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, wouldn't she have gone to like elementary school

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Speaker 3: I thought the same thing, Yeah, she would have known them.

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Speaker 3: And their parents and their families. So it's just odd

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Speaker 3: that they were just meeting right.

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Speaker 4: Right, and lauraa I too. There was the one scene

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Speaker 4: the town meeting is where we find out about the musical,

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Speaker 4: which we'll get to the musical, and also we find

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Speaker 4: out that the stars Hollow Gazette is shutting down, so

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Speaker 4: it kind of sets up like the two major storylines

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Speaker 4: for the episode. Back at the pool, Okay, so Luke

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Speaker 1: I think it was a It was kind of a

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Speaker 1: So right, So, introducing new fans to the Gilmore sphere

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just didn't I never pictured Luke as the

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Speaker 1: So true he took swimming lessons. Did we ever even

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't remember there being an episode of like

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Speaker 4: There there was that hint of summer, that lazy, hazy,

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but we didn't really get I was like,

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Speaker 5: there's a community pool, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that was a

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Speaker 4: And then okay, so more. Yeah, and the thing with

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Speaker 4: the kids, like the kids that were whole holding the umbrellas.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was weird. I thought that was weird too.

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Speaker 4: I kept thinking that was like a dream or something like.

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Speaker 4: I kept waiting for the part where they were going.

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Speaker 2: To wake up, right, right, Well, they followed Rory all

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Speaker 2: the way until she was asking for the job, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know this whole The whole first half of

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Speaker 4: this episode just was like this alternate reality for me.

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Speaker 3: The first half of this episode, the whole thing, the

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Speaker 3: whole thing.

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Speaker 4: second half. Once once we got past the musical, although

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Speaker 4: I actually liked the musical, but we'll talk about.

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Speaker 5: That, okay.

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Speaker 4: So then they run into Claudia, the therapist at at

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Speaker 4: the audition for the musical, and we get a little

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Speaker 5: That was kind of cool. I love Sutton Foster her.

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Speaker 4: And then uh so, then that's the part you were

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Speaker 4: was it was appropriate, like who else but Rory is

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was like the perfect setup.

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Speaker 4: And then so then he walks her over to the

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Speaker 4: And I don't know that this was a case where

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Speaker 4: he was the minister at Grand's funeral, and he was

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Speaker 5: So I thought, funny, kind of cute.

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Speaker 4: But that was a cute little scene, like you kind

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Speaker 4: of see what Rory's set up for. And then okay,

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Speaker 4: now the Dragonfly and with Michelle.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I was not a fan of Michelle in the last episode.

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Speaker 4: I'm still not a fan of Michelle. In this episode,

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Speaker 4: he's like because he's talking about having kids and so

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Speaker 4: I guess he was like practicing being around kids and

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Speaker 4: he was being like sickly sweet with that. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't really like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm right there with you. It's so un Michelle, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'd rather him be snarky.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. And so then he says he wants to go,

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Speaker 4: And then that's when Laura I realized, Okay, he's probably

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Speaker 4: on his way out. Okay, what did you guys think

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Speaker 5: I thought, I thought, I loved it.

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Speaker 3: This was my one saving grace for this episode. I

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Speaker 3: loved the Secret Bar. Yeah, I thought, I want to

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Speaker 3: Warner Brothers does their Christmas thing, they need to set

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Speaker 3: up the Secret Bar.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Cool, This is so fun because.

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Speaker 4: They did have it when we did the when you

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Speaker 4: guys did that, the live event, the podcast event, I

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Speaker 4: guess it was like, yeah, a year or two go

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Speaker 4: now they did have the secret bar setup and they

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Speaker 3: It was really I must have missed that then. I

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Speaker 1: Lot of these old historic towns are dry.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't want them to be dry. Luke and

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Speaker 3: MORELEI to have a drink out.

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Speaker 4: I loved how they all clearly have been through it before,

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Speaker 3: The candles blowing out the candles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Taylor's like like you like you think

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Speaker 4: But then this is where you know, Michelle and Laurla

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Speaker 4: have kind of their heart to heart that he's leaving

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Speaker 4: and and yeah, actually that's that's true. Jackie's noting that

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Speaker 3: That was at like the very end, right, there was

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Speaker 3: at least like a few seasons where we didn't have

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Speaker 4: Right right, And they don't They weren't super obvious about it.

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Speaker 5: It was it was kind of.

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Speaker 2: Was was like, was it an arcade or a bar

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Speaker 3: A barcade, barcade?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was more of an arcade because

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Speaker 4: Luke went in there to get change.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so I don't know. So we don't really

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Speaker 4: And I don't think I think at that point Dean

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Speaker 4: Woods wasn't underage, so I don't.

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Speaker 5: Know if he would have been in a bar.

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Speaker 4: Got it, Okay, let's see and then okay, so start

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Speaker 4: they're back at Then they go to the Star's Hollow Gazette.

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Speaker 4: Rory's having trouble with the forty year old computer. Then

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Speaker 4: Lourlai comes by to talk about Michelle, and then we

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Speaker 4: start the trope of drinking scotch. Okay, now this the whole,

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Speaker 4: and they're running all over town delivering it.

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Speaker 5: Parts of that We're cute. I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: That was fine. I liked it.

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Speaker 3: Any excuse to go to the different places and stars hollow.

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Speaker 4: If you listen to the lyrics, it's hilarious, really fun

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Speaker 4: And tell me if I'm wrong on this, Scott. But

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Speaker 1: screenplays and it's a three hundred and one, one hundred

440
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: and eighty three hundred and sixty minutes of solid entertainment.

441
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: That's hard. Writing one screenplay is really hard. I've written

442
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: fifteen screenplays, you know how hard they are to write? Well,

443
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like you got to write ten

444
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: just to know what not to do, you know. Yeah,

445
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: But it's like these got these these two you know,

446
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: they cobbled something to get the other. That was I

447
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: don't know even if even if you say to yourself,

448
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: they just flew by the seat of their pants, They

449
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 1: just threw a bunch of stuff down on paper. They

450
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: opened a couple of the crates of wine and just

451
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: had a good time and let it fly. Good for them,

452
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: you know, because it was all in all, if you

453
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: don't take it too seriously, it's a fun ride.

454
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's that's what I tell people, and I

455
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: probably have said it on the podcast that like, you

456
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 4: can't go into the reboot expecting it to be just

457
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 4: a continuation of season seven, like it's you have to

458
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 4: really just judge it on its own merits, because it's

459
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 4: a completely different beast and you know, to your point, Scott,

460
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 4: it was nine years later. So not only are all

461
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: the actors nine years older, but the writers were nine

462
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 4: years older too. Everybody had, you know, just our country

463
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 4: was a different place, a different perspective, like everybody was,

464
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: you know, just looks at the world differently, and you know,

465
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 4: we're all more mature and just think about things differently.

466
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: So it just it's not unexpected that that would come

467
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: out in the writing as well. So, but there are

468
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 4: some hilarious moments in the musical. So if anybody is

469
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: listening that hasn't actually listened to the lyrics, put the

470
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: captions on and listen to what they're actually saying, because

471
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 4: it's it's pretty funny.

472
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: Huge fan of the of the musical, Huge fan. I

473
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: would pay money to see a full length stars.

474
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: And it's catchy, like you know, you sing the songs

475
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 4: and yeah, sorry, I am quiet.

476
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: I just I can't disagree with And if Sutton Foster

477
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: that other guy were starring in it, I'd be the

478
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: first one in law.

479
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 5: That's her ex husband.

480
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: By the way, Oh is that right?

481
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 6: Oh really?

482
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

483
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: That would be a fun night out at the theater.

484
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 4: So Danielle, I want to hear what I go, I

485
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 4: want to hear what you think.

486
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: Just no, bleno. I didn't like it. I didn't like it.

487
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: I was confused. I didn't know why so much emphasis

488
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: was on these characters we don't care about. What did

489
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 3: it offer to the storyline?

490
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 5: Nothing?

491
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: In my opinion, If it was isolated, cool, I'm sure

492
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: it's entertaining just as a part of this very precious

493
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: four series reboot. I'm not interested in it. Sorry, I

494
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: sounded really mean.

495
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I think that that's a popular opinion.

496
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: Okay, what if you what if?

497
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: And you know I saw it as Amy and Dan's

498
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: love letter to stars hollow.

499
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: Hollow people?

500
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: How could we That's where I think that people can't

501
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: sing and dance like that.

502
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: Well, I've seen Kirk do it many times.

503
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean I'm talking.

504
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: Miss Patty runs a dance studio, so she better.

505
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 1: I understand. I understand. I understand what you're saying. But

506
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: to have all of us or not Luke probably wouldn't

507
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: want to be a part of it. But to have

508
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: all of the Gilmore characters in a star's hollow musical,

509
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: we you know, couldn't execute at the level of what Sutton,

510
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Foster and her ex husband, and everybody up on that

511
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: stage was doing that is a a that is an

512
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: art form and a discipline that is and Sutton Foster's

513
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: at the top of her game and probably at the

514
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: top of that category. I mean, she's winning Tony Awards

515
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: as a Broadway musical actress. So it's a very very

516
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: very very particular discipline.

517
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: You know, Sutton Foster, no discredit to her. She did

518
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: a fabulous job job and she's so talented. I just

519
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: didn't want it in this, you know, like I said,

520
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: isolated in some other show or as its own thing,

521
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: great fantastic entertaining as a part of this just felt

522
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: very off off.

523
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, just for a second, pretend you're Amy

524
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: Sherman Palladino. Okay, You've had this massive, massive success with

525
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls. You are being recognized as one of the

526
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: and feted is one of the great talents in Hollywood

527
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Okay, the awards haven't poured in yet,

528
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: and I always knew that they would, and I even

529
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: wrote Amy an email stating that it was like a

530
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: hang in there, You're going to get more gold statues

531
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: than you know what to do with that. I was right,

532
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: because she was denied that on Gilmore Girls, and I

533
00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: thought some people this talented will not go unrecognized series

534
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: after series after serious Imagine how they felt after Bunheads

535
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: that got canceled after two years, right, And I think

536
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: they did another one in New York City. Uh. And

537
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: I think Scott Collen was was one of the stars

538
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: of it. And I think Sutton Foster was was also

539
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: the star of that show. And that didn't last but

540
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: a year.

541
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: If that, this is all I can say to this.

542
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: You have two of the most popular boy bands in

543
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: history in sync backshit. Boys never want a Grammy, But

544
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: what do they give you? They give you what the

545
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: fans want, and they give you those bangers and then

546
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: give you those hits, and they are They always say, yeah,

547
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: I've never won a Grammy, but.

548
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 5: Who the hell cares?

549
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: But that's music, same, same, same, same same same.

550
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: I got where you're going with it to day, I'll

551
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: get what you're saying.

552
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: Boys won a Grammy recently, they just won their Grammy. Right, No,

553
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: I don't think they haven't. They still haven't anyways.

554
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: But but if I'm if, I'm Amy Sherman Paladino and

555
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: now it's not the time.

556
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: Amy Sharon do that in butnheads do it in a

557
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: different series.

558
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: I look at it like, Okay, if you want to

559
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: do a music analogy, if what I would Jimmy Hendrix

560
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: or Eric Clapton or Janis Joplin, or what would Carol

561
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: King or somebody at that level, What would they do

562
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: if somebody threw a boatload of money at him and said,

563
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy, let's reimagine the experience and purple haze

564
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: or whatever, acrosstown traffic or you know, or Eric, let's

565
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: do Leila again. But here's the difference put it. You know,

566
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: they would all come up with something radically different nine

567
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: years later, right, They really really would, so I think so.

568
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: The point I'm making is true artists, real deep artists.

569
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: They try new things or else, they can't do it.

570
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: They never ever ever go back and do the same thing.

571
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: They don't do it. And it's not a knock on

572
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: the fans. Okay, it feels like it for the fans.

573
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: It's just the acknowledgment that we're artists. We live in

574
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: the moment, we get inspired in the moment, and this

575
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: is what inspired us to do this. This is what

576
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: we're giving you now, So I don't want to. I

577
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: don't want to judge it from a historical context. I

578
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: just want to give it a chance and and sort

579
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: of judge it and try to enjoy it with fresh eyes.

580
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: And this is what we get in twenty and sixteen,

581
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: after nine years of you know, because it was it

582
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: was a sad ending for that show, which had far

583
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: more life in it. So anyway, that's just those are

584
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: my thoughts.

585
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: That's fair. And maybe I just need to watch it

586
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: again for more of an entertainment value, you know, instead

587
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: of instead of the Gilmore Girls tug on my heart,

588
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: you know, thinking it robbed us of some time in

589
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: this episode. But I'm you know, I should go back

590
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: and watch it as a little bit removed from that,

591
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: and I'm sure it's entertaining, but for me watching it,

592
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 3: I just immediately disassociated from it.

593
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's a normal first response, because

594
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: I will say I didn't always. I mean, I love

595
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 4: the musical now, but I've seen it a bunch of times,

596
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: so I didn't love it the first time either. I

597
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: was like, well, I wanted to see I wanted to

598
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: catch up with more characters. I want to see more

599
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: you know, Luke and Laurelai. I want to see, you know,

600
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 4: things work out for these people. And I'm like, who,

601
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: like like you were saying, like at the time, I

602
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: didn't even know who Sutton Foster was the first time

603
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 4: I watched it, so I was like, who are Like

604
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 4: do they live in the town?

605
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 5: Like why are we watching this?

606
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 4: So I think that your reaction, Danielle is completely normal

607
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: for you know, the first time viewer and for me personally.

608
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 4: It took a couple tries and then I like, I

609
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: really started paying attention to it and listening to it,

610
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: and it.

611
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 5: Was once I was less disoriented than it.

612
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: Was, like you saying that it was funny. I don't

613
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: remember what they said. I just remember watching being like

614
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: what oh.

615
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: I roared with laughter and just the fact that that

616
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: loralized reaction was abject horror. That's why. That's that's when

617
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: I knew it was really funny.

618
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Sam Pancake was sitting next to her and

619
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: he's like, right, well, happy and excited, and.

620
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody everybody would.

621
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

622
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: I just thought, God, what what courage to write something

623
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: like that or something like this, you know, to use

624
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: this as a launching pad to do this again again.

625
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: From a creative perspective, I really really do.

626
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: I think it took a lot of balls to do that.

627
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a thing in writing where you

628
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta kill your favorite children, you know, in

629
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: order to come up with something great, like if it

630
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: doesn't fit in, you know, you got to get rid

631
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: of it, you got to cut it out, that kind

632
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: of thing. And just for them going back to you know,

633
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: rehash old storylines and let's because you can't pick up

634
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: where you left off. You got a sort of it's

635
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: nine years later, So what happened? What happened? What if

636
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: you know, things didn't go so well for Rory? What

637
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: if Luke and Laura I didn't get married have a kid?

638
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: And I know I've been tough on it, right, I've been,

639
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, peeved that it seems like they dumped on

640
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Luke a little bit and made him dumb and all

641
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. But I'm not you know, I'm

642
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: not the writer. I didn't create it. Okay, I can

643
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: have my opinion. That's the beauty of collaboration between you know,

644
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: intervative artists and creative artists, And that's that should that

645
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: should happen more often on sets. I think it really

646
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: should be that that that should be for it didn't

647
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: happen a lot on our set, and I wish it did.

648
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: But having said that, I really just tried to watch

649
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: it as a new fan that heard about this Gilmore thing,

650
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: hadn't seen the show, and let's just watch Summer Wonder.

651
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Let's let's check this out as a new experience. And

652
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: I thought, boy, this'd be pretty good. She just were

653
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: introduced to it, like, hey, go watch the Summer Thing,

654
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Like you see these two and they're they're being Southern

655
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: bells and it's kind of funny and there, you know,

656
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: and you just get into it. It's like, well, this

657
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: is different, right, this could work for me. I mean,

658
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: it's member, it's television, so you really what you know,

659
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: and it's and it's and it's Gilmore Girls and it's Netflix,

660
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: but it's still it's Gilmore Girls. So how do you

661
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: how do you stretch that envelope? You can't stretch that

662
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: envelope too much. I thought they took it to the

663
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: nth degree the farthest they could. They could stretch the

664
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: envelope for this and not make it like completely unrecognizable anyway.

665
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 5: Then the end of that scene.

666
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: I really loved when with Carol King when she says, oh,

667
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 4: I wrote some songs, but I never did anything with them. Great,

668
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 4: and then she plays I Feel the Earth movement.

669
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 5: It was like it's not enough.

670
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: She say, isn't that great? Was the fact to take

671
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: it write something like that and Carol King play it

672
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: and play it so well? Just yeah, I really enjoyed that.

673
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, were you on set that day because you weren't

674
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: in the scene. Were you around when she was playing?

675
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 5: No, Unfortunately, that would have been amazing.

676
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

677
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 4: So then we we go to Emily and Richards and

678
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: Rory comes over to check on Emily and there's a

679
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: TV in the living room. So this after the musical,

680
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: is when the episode got.

681
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 5: A little more Gilmore. Yeah.

682
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it was the whole thing with the you know,

683
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 4: the stars hollow in the pool and the boys with

684
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 4: the umbrella like that was weird to me. But then

685
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: it started to feel a little more Gilmoury. We had

686
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: a da R meeting and then Rory suggests that maybe

687
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 4: she go back to the club and you know, kind

688
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 4: of get back in their social circle again.

689
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 5: And so then the next scene.

690
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 4: Okay, So, Danielle, do you want to talk about Jess.

691
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know if I want to. Oh no,

692
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: I'm really disappointed, guys, I am very disappointed. He's my

693
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: favorite character. Him and Emily are time hoping for. I

694
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: was hoping for them to like flirt and maybe make

695
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: out and for I don't know. I was hoping that

696
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 3: he was endgame, which he's obviously not.

697
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: And they haven't even seen each other for four years.

698
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: At this point. He's just making her a better person,

699
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: and she's giving zilch to him like nothing, and not

700
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: even honestly even appreciative, like she just I don't know,

701
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: He's just I wanted to see him and Luke hang

702
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: out for at the diner like I want to. I

703
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 3: I didn't get that interaction. I wanted Jess and Luke

704
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: to have a whole moment and talk and do their thing,

705
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: and then I wanted Jess and Rory to reconnect and

706
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: talk about how they're doing and also their past like

707
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: I wanted. I felt like there was no acknowledgment to

708
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: what Jess was in the series to him in the movie.

709
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: He could have just been a pass along character in

710
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: these movies. You know, he seemed like he didn't have

711
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: a presence in this series. Does that make sense? And

712
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: he was such a pivotal part of the series that

713
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: when he came back in the movies, I expected more,

714
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: not a three minute scene where he's telling Rory to

715
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: shape up and giving her advice. I don't know, it's

716
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: just yeah, I.

717
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: Wish there was more. But I also think it kind

718
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 2: of followed from when we saw him come to Yale,

719
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: Like that's how I felt like that was.

720
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 3: Juicy, that was cool.

721
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 5: I loved that.

722
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just felt like they followed that storyline

723
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: of it, do you know what I mean, coming in

724
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: to give her advice and get her head on her shoulders.

725
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: And but I also wonder because again I did say,

726
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: I wish the musical was a tad shorter so we'd

727
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: get more gilmore time. But I also wonder if like

728
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: they only had him for one day, you.

729
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, well pack up that day, make it figure

730
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 3: it out. Yeah, I don't know, so I will let

731
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: me do, let me down. I'm not gonna lie it

732
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: maybe real real won't won't won't, won't want and my

733
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: my favorite favorite character in this whole series.

734
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 5: Just well, if it helps. That is not all that

735
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 5: we see of.

736
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: Jess better not Warner Brothers Studios.

737
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: Jess gots a spin off.

738
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 6: Now.

739
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 4: I thought the little thing in the back was cute

740
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 4: where he goes outside and then grabs Luke's hat and

741
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: throw it.

742
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: I thought that was cute.

743
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was nice.

744
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 4: So then it goes to a week later at Emily

745
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: and Richard's and.

746
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 5: We meet Jack Smith.

747
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: Who I swear when he turned around, I thought that

748
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 4: was Robert Wagner, which is silly because he's.

749
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 5: Like in his eighties but are actually nineties by now.

750
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: But so Laurelai is like kind of bristling because she's like,

751
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: who is this guy that's sniffing around?

752
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 5: And then Emily kind of picked a fight with laurel I.

753
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: She was mad Lareley just couldn't do anything right.

754
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 4: She was Emily was going to be mad either way

755
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 4: because she thought she was being dismissive, but then she

756
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 4: wouldn't accept him either. So I think one of the

757
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 4: key points in that scene was this is where laurel

758
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: I found out about the real estate that Luke had

759
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: gone out to look at real estate with Emily, which

760
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 4: was a surprise to her. And then the okay, the

761
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 4: cemetery scene, it was like it kind of choked me up.

762
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 5: To see the headstone. I was like, oh my gosh.

763
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: I did love that Emily has gone through like five though. Yeah,

764
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: I did love that.

765
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: That was a nice touch.

766
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: Also got a little George Belle in that scene, so

767
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: it was good to see him. And so then the book, Okay,

768
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 4: so what did you guys? I want to I'm curious

769
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: because I had a reaction to laurelize reaction to the book.

770
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 5: What I did I do?

771
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: I go utah, you go first.

772
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: I I was a little taken back by a Laurelized reaction.

773
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: I thought she would if she didn't want Roy to

774
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: write about her. I think it would have been a

775
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: little bit more of a conversation and Rory even like

776
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: hit on the head where she's like, you're usually not

777
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: passive aggressive towards me, like we talk it out. And

778
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: I think that it was out of Lorelei's character to

779
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: just be like, no, you can't do that, because she

780
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: always wants her daughter to succeed. But I do understand that,

781
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: like she doesn't want a story written about her. So

782
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: I was like, I was kind of torn by it

783
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: because I was like, I understand not wanting to be

784
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: have your life written about you, but I didn't think

785
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: she'd shut down Rory so quickly.

786
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree. I was torn because I

787
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: don't think Lorel I should be at fault for saying

788
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 3: please don't write about me. But at the same time,

789
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: this story is also Rory's story, a lot of it is,

790
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 3: and so just kind of robbing her daughter from writing

791
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: her own story too, in a weird way. But but yeah,

792
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: I'm torn on it, and I'm actually really curious to

793
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: see how this pans out.

794
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 4: I was actually on laurel I side on this because

795
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 4: Rory said she was going to start, you know, when

796
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: Larela I was sixteen, and you know, the riches to

797
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: rag story, like that's not Rory's story to tell, and

798
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: so I kind of felt that I really understood where

799
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 4: Laurel I was coming from that, like she doesn't want

800
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 4: her secrets spilled out to the public because she very

801
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: carefully created that little bubble that she raised Rory in

802
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: to you know, be away from her parents or whatever,

803
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: and so I really kind of understood Larelized perspective on that.

804
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: And I think if Rory wants to write about her

805
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: own experience, and obviously moral I is going to be

806
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 4: included in that, then fine, But to write about Laurel

807
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 4: I without lrelized permission was.

808
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 5: A little weird to me.

809
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: I don't know, Scott was did you think about Lorelei's

810
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: reaction to the book proposal.

811
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I think, you know, laurelized

812
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: life and what she did for her daughter, what she

813
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: chose to do is it should not be fodder or

814
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: a book. Now, if Rory had gone to Laurel I

815
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: and said, listen, I'm thinking about writing a book about us,

816
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: what do you think, and really gone to her and

817
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: just you know, not assumed that she was going to

818
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: go along with it. Yeah, that's those are her precious memories.

819
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: Those that's her life, and you know she owns them

820
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: as much as Rory owns them.

821
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, and Rory I thought I had a real

822
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 4: sense of entitlement, like Laura I owe this to her.

823
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could really argue both sides of it. But

824
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: if Laura I feels the way she feels, you know,

825
00:46:59,560 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: you got her.

826
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And at the end of the day, it's a

827
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 3: book about LAURAAI and her experience, so you can't really

828
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: do that without Laura Lai being on board, right.

829
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: And I agree with you Scott that if Rory had

830
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: come to Laura I and said, hey, I'm thinking about

831
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: doing this and maybe been more collaborative about it than

832
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 4: just coming to her and being like, I'm going to

833
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 4: write this book and you know you have to give

834
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 4: me this.

835
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 5: It was just a little aggressive to me.

836
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 2: So I also wonder if Rory like could have given

837
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: because she said she wrote, like she outlined the first

838
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: five chapters. I think also she could have been like, hey,

839
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: here's what I was thinking. Can you look it over

840
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: and let me know what you think?

841
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: Right? Not a great sales pitch from.

842
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: Us, or just this is what I want to do.

843
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: What's what can't I talk about what's off the table

844
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: for you?

845
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: Right?

846
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: You know, like mom, what's off the table?

847
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: Right?

848
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: And when you, Scott, when you said sales pitch, that

849
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: made me think, like Rory even said that, she's like, oh,

850
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 4: let me pitch it again, Like no, this isn't like

851
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: a pitch meeting, like you know, it's a mother daughter conversation,

852
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 4: like let's talk about what's going to be and what's

853
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: not going to be in rather than you know's trying

854
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: to trying to do a pitch. So but you know,

855
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 4: at the same time, I do understand Rory was excited

856
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 4: about the idea. It seemed like the first thing in

857
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 4: a long time that she'd actually been excited about, So

858
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 4: I can I can see her perspective too, But I

859
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: just I don't.

860
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Know if she if she were to write, was she

861
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: planning on writing a fictional fiction novel based on how

862
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: she grew up? I mean, she'd have to really obscure

863
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: it out.

864
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

865
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: See, that's what I was thinking when Jess was talking

866
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: to her, because they loved reading novels and stuff like that.

867
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: I thought he was talking about her writing a book,

868
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: like a novel based on That's how That's how I

869
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 2: was thinking, just because it was Jess.

870
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: But well, I think if she wanted to write something,

871
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: she would just go off and she would write it. Yeah,

872
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: and then when she was done with it, she presented

873
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: to Laurel I and said say, look, this is what

874
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: I wrote. What do you think? Then they have the conversation,

875
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, but it's like she just botched it. Yeah.

876
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 4: So then we move to the next scene and the

877
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 4: next confrontation, which is Luke and Laurelei in the diner.

878
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 4: Lorelei is pissed at Luke because he went restaurant shopping

879
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 4: with Emily, and then you know, Luke is pissed at

880
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 4: Lorelei that she has been going to therapy without telling him. So,

881
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, I thought it was a good dramatic scene.

882
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 4: You really see that really everything is not good between

883
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 4: you know, they're they're kind of settled and they're together,

884
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 4: but they're not happy and they're not really like in sync.

885
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 5: And then.

886
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 4: The I don't know, I liked that scene. I like

887
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 4: the end when he is yelling about Sandral.

888
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't really enjoy that storms.

889
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 5: Back to the to the diner. I don't know what

890
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 5: you guys thought about that.

891
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: But definitely maybe a top ten Luke lorel I scene.

892
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 4: It was a good scene and it was it was emotional,

893
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 4: it was well acted.

894
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 5: I enjoyed that scene.

895
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 4: And then Rory now is at Lane's house venting about

896
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: uh Lorelai, and then Logan calls and that's you know,

897
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: Rory's finds out that Odette is there.

898
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 2: She she calls Logan.

899
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 4: That's right, well, yeah, she calling by accident, but then

900
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 4: he called her back and Lane answered her phone, and

901
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 4: then Odette is there and so then Rory. She's already

902
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 4: emotional from having just fought with Loralai and now like

903
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 4: we're layering this on top and she's like, you know,

904
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: we're not breaking up because we're nothing.

905
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 5: That was kind of a sad moment for her.

906
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like finally I know, Yeah.

907
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 4: I did think it was funny when Lane's like, you

908
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: want a lipatory just got some m and then.

909
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 5: The okay. So then the last two real.

910
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 4: Key moments of the episode. One is when she goes

911
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: back to MS. Patty's and settin Foster is they're singing

912
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 4: the Unbreakable song.

913
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: That was great.

914
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed that the song, and I totally identified

915
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 4: with Lurlai in that moment where just you think everything's

916
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: going wrong and you're trying to juggle it all and

917
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 4: it's like.

918
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: Kind of that's a big film scene. That's a film moment.

919
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 4: Yes, And then I liked how they suddenly cut to

920
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: the wide shot and she's in the room by.

921
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed, right, So great stuff.

922
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: And then so she goes home like she's emotional, she's

923
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 4: crying she goes home.

924
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 5: Luke is fixing the shelf.

925
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 4: And she tells him she's going to go do wild.

926
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you guys noticed at the

927
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 4: beginning of the episode when they were at the pool,

928
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 4: she was reading Wild. Oh yeah, And so she comes

929
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 4: in that's where that came from. She comes in and

930
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 4: she's like, I'm gonna go do wild and looks like,

931
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: you know, that's out of nature. Like that was a

932
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: it was a cute little conversation, but I really I

933
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 4: could really feel Lorealized emotion on that, like she's like,

934
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 4: I got to do something.

935
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lorealize at this point right now, where obviously her

936
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: relationship is not the best, her relationship with her daughter

937
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: is now not the best, her relationship with her mom

938
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: has never been the best. So I think she's kind of.

939
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 4: And she's losing Michelle too, like everything, all of her

940
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 4: major relationships are going through a crisis.

941
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 6: Zuki too.

942
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's mm hmm.

943
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 5: Right, Suki's gone, she's been gone for a year, like.

944
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: Her dad's no longer. So yeah, her, she all her relationships,

945
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: she's very much alone right now.

946
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: Is it's like a prime time for X Defer to

947
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: show up.

948
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 6: Somehow that's a nice horn you at that.

949
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: He guess what, Laura, I'm really rich.

950
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 6: More rich years ago.

951
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: I just I can't lose.

952
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 3: That was funny.

953
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 5: Oh man.

954
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, and then just the the very final scene

955
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: with that the look of almost confusion on Luke's face.

956
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 4: He's like because he's I mean, he's having a crisis

957
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 4: of his own too, to a lesser degree, but just

958
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: that that closing scene, just.

959
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: He's trying to figure out who's inhabiting his body at

960
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: this moment.

961
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 6: You gotta go a soul back, right exactly.

962
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 5: So I liked the end. I thought it was good.

963
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 3: You know, I'm very excited for Fall because I feel

964
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: that Fall is Gilmore girls. I'm saying as I'm excited

965
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 3: for it because I really do feel in this grand

966
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: finale we're going to get back Winter was strong spring

967
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: in summer, and I feel like there's only room to

968
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: go up, and Fall is going to bring it back home.

969
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: Oh you want to rate it?

970
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 5: Yeah you go first?

971
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, Tarror, you're gonna go first.

972
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tarr, you go.

973
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: I give it.

974
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: Seven and Stars Hollow gazettes mm hmmm. Copies of the

975
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 2: Star's Hall Gazette Danielle.

976
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to give it three out of ten last Scotch.

977
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 3: The three out of ten comes from the secret bar.

978
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to give it.

979
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm going to give it six point nine floaty huts.

980
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to a favorite line too.

981
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I look, let's not mix the rounds. We can't

982
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 1: cross the streams. It's very dangerous. Like Jackie and those

983
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: people back there, They're going to get electrocuted if we

984
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: do that. Ah, I don't know. I really enjoyed this.

985
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a nine point seventy five.

986
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 5: Wow.

987
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I just just for the

988
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: musical alone and those big movie moments and the Laurla experience.

989
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: I just I just thought it was It's just was

990
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: so good. It was so funny and so fun and

991
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: so poignant. If you can make me laugh that hard

992
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: in a musical and then give me a moment, a

993
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: powerful moment of a woman who you know, who's unbreakable

994
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: and looking at her entire life behind her in front

995
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: of her in a song, Oh tears your heart out, man.

996
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: Beautiful stuff, just beautiful stuff. So I want to give

997
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: it to them, you know, as a thank you for

998
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: what you gave me. You know what I'm saying, some

999
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: gratitude and because it's a I'm gonna I'm gonna say,

1000
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, nine point seven pairs of balls. There you

1001
00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: go here anyway, all right, so that's gonna wrap around. Uh,

1002
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: thank you, ladies. Tara Sued, Susanne French, Danielle Romo's And

1003
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: it's odd you don't even notice when Amy's not here, right,

1004
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: It's like exactly the same. It's like what.

1005
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: A fire and Spicer is missing.

1006
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Anyway, Thank you, ladies, much appreciated. And to you the

1007
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: best fans on the planet. Thank you so much for

1008
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: your downloads. Keep those cards and letters coming. Remember we

1009
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: love you and we and I I'm all in. Stay

1010
00:57:37,440 --> 00:58:09,840
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1011
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:14,280
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1012
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