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Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart

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Speaker 1: podcasts All Right. Coming up on NHL Unscripted, we wrap

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Speaker 1: up the regular season and a little pole position. The

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Speaker 1: National Hockey League Players Association releasing the results of the

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Speaker 1: annual player's poll.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna like what they had to say.

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Speaker 1: Also, Bruce Cassidy, recently fired as coach of the Vegas

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Speaker 1: Golden Knights, somewhat have been exclusive as he speaks to

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Speaker 1: NHL and Scripted as to what went down. Plus more

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Speaker 1: off the field stuff.

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Speaker 3: Could the Maple Lease.

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Speaker 2: Be bringing back Matts?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 1: Verkin Demers, Nate Thompson along for the ride, tals with us,

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Speaker 1: althoughis is an echo.

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Speaker 2: Not sure how much he's gonna say.

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Speaker 1: Always good to see Nato the network, Always good to

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Speaker 1: see Jason Demurs the network. Watching NHL tonight this morning,

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Speaker 1: JD and personning a dog at one point over highlight

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, when the glass shattered, you uttered its

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Speaker 1: raining men, good con good song.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a It was a It was a

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Speaker 4: dare for one of the directors in the back. I

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Speaker 4: couldn't work it into something that's right. I wanted to

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Speaker 4: do the happy Gilmore one though, instaid is what do

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Speaker 4: you think this is hockey? Or this is a hockey game.

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Speaker 4: It's not a rock concert. Go back to your shanties.

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Speaker 2: But it is always inevitable, JD.

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Speaker 1: When you're working in the late shift and native's working

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Speaker 1: the lay shift tonight, we're recording this Wednesday morning, that

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Speaker 1: last game goes to overtime, you just know you're you're

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Speaker 1: staring down the barrel of a gun. Listen, we all

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Speaker 1: love hockey, We love the NHL Playoffs. You guys dedicate

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Speaker 1: your live to the sport. But when you see a

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Speaker 1: game engine towards overtime like that, seriously, can we just

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Speaker 1: finish the sucker?

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Speaker 4: Let's go well, Plus there was the glass that was

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Speaker 4: finish even later.

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Speaker 5: But Colorado wins. Everything's right in the World.

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Speaker 1: Playoff first takes, we'll go around the horn here. The

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Speaker 1: first few days the postseason have given us a lot captains.

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Speaker 1: Brady could chuck Jordan's still drop on the gloves off

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Speaker 1: the opening face off, first game of the playoffs, Buffalo

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Speaker 1: erupting when the Sabers came back to in Game one

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Speaker 1: against Boston the first time in NHL postseason history, a

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Speaker 1: more with eight minutes or less remaining. Of course, Austin

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Speaker 1: stomped back last night, winning four to two. Sefkowski first

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Speaker 1: playoff hat trick, O two winner first Canadians scored three

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Speaker 1: power play goals in one playoff game. Then Hagel gets

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Speaker 1: the first playoff Gordy hal hat trick in lightning history.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota opening what could be a huge series, but that's

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Speaker 1: a six one SmackDown the Stars. Responding Game two, Carolina

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Speaker 1: one goal disallowed by an offside review award a penalty

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Speaker 1: double overtime. Flyers when the first two games in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: they go home with an eighteen to zero franchise record

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Speaker 1: at best of seven.

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Speaker 2: When they're up to to oh.

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Speaker 1: Dry Settle returns to the Oilers and Utah defenseman. Lastly,

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Speaker 1: Nate Shawn Jersey gets fined five grand for headbutting Rasmus

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Speaker 1: Anderson lost to choose from your highlights so far off

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Speaker 3: It's been. It's had everything, literally everything we could think of.

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Speaker 3: It's had and I mean even that that penalty shot

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Speaker 3: It's just been it's been incredible. I think the Tampa

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Speaker 3: stay like a playoffs is there's nothing better JD for you.

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Speaker 4: My favorite thing so far about the playoffs has been

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Speaker 5: They look absolutely awful. So they're down.

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Speaker 4: I guess when you go down two at home in

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Speaker 2: Nate's surprised how quiet Sidney cross We's been.

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Speaker 1: I mean you got fourth liner scoring, Glenn Dennings scoring

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am surprised. I'm surprised. It hasn't been better.

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Speaker 3: So like to JD's point, and I've been a part

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Speaker 3: Jad mentioned, So Pittsburgh has their workout out for him right.

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Speaker 1: Now, Jady, when you look at the Montreal Canadians. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Nate has to point it on the detection like your

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Speaker 2: It was a hard, fun game.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts on Montreal so far, it looks to be a

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Speaker 1: Love a good Gordia Hall playoff Hatrick, good stuff from Hagel.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, Hegel's Hagel and Josh Anderson have been have

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Speaker 4: I know Slavkovski had that great performance, but Anderson is

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Speaker 5: They collectively grab their heads.

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Speaker 5: Better clean it up.

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Speaker 4: But it just they looked Montreal looked like the more

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Speaker 4: They looked frustrated, uh, just agitated by everything that Montreal

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Speaker 4: So I'm anxious to see at the Bell Center Game

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Speaker 5: But how much super glue has been wasted?

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Speaker 4: Because if you're gonna I was like, if you're gonna

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Speaker 6: if you're gonna wrestle like that to your point and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they wrestled.

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Speaker 4: If the ref's letting you wrestle with gloves on for

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Speaker 3: It looked like they were trying to someone's hiding a

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've seen this many fights either. Like

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Speaker 5: Somebody brought it up.

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Speaker 4: They're like, is it it's all that goes back to

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Speaker 4: like either the Austin Matthews on a Goudas on Matthews

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Speaker 4: it's like every single series's guys in the box yelling

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Speaker 3: It is. I don't get it either, But I mean this,

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Speaker 3: it's really evident.

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Speaker 1: One more thought before we get to the off the

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Speaker 1: ice stuff. But Nate was thinking of you watching that

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Speaker 1: Boston game one, saying, well, everyone's rooting for the Sabers

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Speaker 1: Cinderella team, Like Nate call Bruins to win, looking pretty good.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Rasmus Dalin is the best guy

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Speaker 4: the rollerblades. Yeah, that's the highlight of the playoffs. Buffalo

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they go, they go there, they fight the dummy,

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Speaker 1: We gotta get Yeah, we'll get them next week. We'll

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Speaker 1: Devils to fill their GM vacancy, the team announcing last

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Speaker 1: Sonny Mata is the new general manager.

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Speaker 2: Sunny started his management career with the Devils.

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Speaker 1: He was one of the league's first data analytics directors.

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Speaker 1: Started out studying music at the University of Miami, eventually

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Speaker 1: Daniel Legrandu What's Up? He even wrote two books about poker.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of Sonny Mata here at JD

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Speaker 4: Well, all the things you explained is you know analytics

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Speaker 4: analysis I could give you. I just think that's what

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Speaker 4: this guy's gonna he's really gonna crunch the numbers LA

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Speaker 4: got to insulate himself with somebody very good in terms

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Speaker 5: So you you know, you might see a good marriage here.

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Speaker 4: Of an analytics guy with with somebody that you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The more I the more I hear about him

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Speaker 3: then obviously him being in Florida. I think learning under

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Speaker 3: I kind of like him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a very cool picture he was posting. This is

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Speaker 1: hopefully it works out. If one new GM is coming in,

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Speaker 1: it must be one is going out. Vancouver announcing that

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Speaker 1: Patrick Alvin no longer the GM. Alvin was on the

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Speaker 1: job a little for four years, how pleave Vancouver to

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Speaker 2: He traded away J. T.

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Speaker 1: Miller, Quinn Hughes, Keith Sherwood, and Connor Garland. They finished

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Speaker 1: guest in Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 2: Great guy.

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Speaker 1: Love the fact they posted the picture of him with

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Speaker 1: was thrilled to be leaving Vancouver. Sabers have reportedly granted

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Speaker 1: Matthew Fevron and Thomas Trantro the Athletic multiple sources, they've

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Speaker 1: Alsays Tron for permission to speak to their special advisor,

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Speaker 1: Shane don jd. How about it, Shane's world taking over.

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Speaker 5: Vancouver, Donor.

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Speaker 4: It's only a matter of time before Donor makes his

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Speaker 4: He's so well loved in the community, in the hockey world,

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Speaker 4: he hasn't been kind of given the nod. I think

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Speaker 5: I'd love to see him.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, Kevin Adams deserves another shot as well.

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Speaker 4: But I think Shane Doan is just so lovable and likable,

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Speaker 4: and maybe he's so lovable that you got to kind

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Speaker 4: of keep him in a special advisor role or an

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Speaker 4: I think anything's better than and I don't mean to

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Speaker 4: last two years in Vancouver. That's what I'll say. Anything's better.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not saying a knock on Alvin. He lost

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Speaker 4: the handle on it. But anything's better than what's been

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Speaker 3: I'm worried if I don't know, I mean, this Vancouver

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Speaker 3: you're under Rutherford and he basically made he called the

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, for the Mayle Lafe, do

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Speaker 3: Since you have min House. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was a little confusing, But I don't know. We'll

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Speaker 4: How'd that firing go? Did you just sit in the

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Speaker 5: But you fy it.

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Speaker 4: But but you don't, but you're fired. Hey, it's all

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Speaker 1: Goodball hunting, it's not your fault. Robin Williams and Matt

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Speaker 1: Damon in this instance, good deep cut. I don't feel

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Speaker 2: He's been living the life as a dad.

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Speaker 1: I heard him on a pocket recently saying doesn't watch

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Speaker 5: Up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I would be not surprised because I could get it.

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Speaker 3: You Maybe I don't know running the leafs, but optics wise,

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Speaker 3: I think it's always good if you brought him back.

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Speaker 3: I think it's only good for the Leafs. I think

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Speaker 4: Information on this team in this franchise is the best

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Speaker 4: get the fuck out of here, like beat it, like

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Speaker 4: He doesn't watch a lot of hockey, but he has

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Speaker 4: hockey knowledge. Now, is this kind of a classic Leafs

435
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Speaker 4: move to just bring somebody that no one thought of

436
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Speaker 4: that's super underqualified. Yes, And I'm kind of here for it,

437
00:19:38,352 --> 00:19:42,351
Speaker 4: and I love it because I'm fully convinced that they

438
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Speaker 4: make all their money on the media because the team's

439
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Speaker 4: so bad, and they just love when the team sucks,

440
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Speaker 4: so they're just trying to be just embrace that.

441
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't.

442
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Matt Sundeen, you haven't to your point.

443
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Speaker 4: I saw him in the Olympics walking into Swedish TV,

444
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Speaker 4: so you know he's he's alive.

445
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Speaker 5: He's more hockey.

446
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's locked up for or body.

447
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Speaker 5: We'll take it.

448
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Speaker 1: Tell you a couple of thoughts your potential people that

449
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Speaker 1: could be involved.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you were talking about guys who haven't been

451
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Speaker 5: around the league much.

452
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Speaker 1: Apparently the Leafs are considering John Shaika as their next GM.

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Speaker 3: That guy has not been in the league and I

454
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Speaker 3: think almost five years.

455
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Speaker 5: JD.

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Speaker 1: You might know something about about John's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the Wendy's the Wendy's King franchise king. Him

458
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Speaker 4: and his wife owned like fifty franchises. Okay, he don't

459
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Speaker 4: need the money, I can tell you that much. So

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Speaker 4: he's coming for the love of the game. Hey, he's

461
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Speaker 4: another He's like a he's kind of like a Sonny Metal,

462
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Speaker 4: a little bit of of sorry Meta. He's a for

463
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Speaker 4: ad nance. You don't get mad at me your people's

464
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Speaker 4: uh so you get my wife's name rat Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I think Listen, do I think Chika is the

466
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Speaker 5: right role.

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Speaker 4: He's been sniffing to get back for a while now,

468
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Speaker 4: and I think he does have good knowledge. I mean, listen,

469
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Speaker 4: before he was fired or you know, before he left,

470
00:21:06,792 --> 00:21:09,792
Speaker 4: which like he left at lunchtime and no one even knew.

471
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Speaker 4: When I was there in Arizona, we were like first

472
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Speaker 4: in the Pacific. We're in the Pacific. At that point,

473
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Speaker 4: we were first in the Pacific, and he wanted to

474
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Speaker 4: go get Tyler to Foley at the deadline. This is

475
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Speaker 4: the COVID year and that was like the exactly what

476
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Speaker 4: we needed. We needed a goal scorer in the wing.

477
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Speaker 4: And the new owner came in Morello and he said, well,

478
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Speaker 4: I want to make a splash. Let's go get Taylor

479
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Speaker 4: Hall and Chikes and them was like, that's not the

480
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Speaker 4: right guy to bring in, Like he's Taylor Hall's great,

481
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Speaker 4: but it doesn't fit in our lineup. And he said, no,

482
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Speaker 4: I want to make a splash and ended up bringing

483
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Speaker 4: in Taylor Hall, and we went from first to out

484
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Speaker 4: of the playoffs, and then Chika left in the middle

485
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Speaker 4: of the night, and then you know, COVID hit and

486
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Speaker 4: we came back in the bubble and Taylor Hall was there.

487
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Speaker 4: And not to say that Taylor Hall's not a great player,

488
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Speaker 4: just we needed to folly at that point, but he

489
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Speaker 4: had built a good team with what he had and

490
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Speaker 4: how little they were willing to spend, So he's going

491
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Speaker 4: to be on a franchise that's willing to spend.

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Speaker 5: I think he can do some damage.

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Speaker 2: Until you another one as well, potentially in Vancouver. Well,

494
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Speaker 2: I was just good.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think this is going to happen.

496
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Speaker 5: I wanted to stir things up and get your take about.

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Speaker 3: You know, Emily Kestingay, the assistant GM.

498
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Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm pronouncing her name right, but

499
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Speaker 5: the assistant GEM in Vancouver.

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Speaker 6: Is there any chance, any chance she got gets the

501
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Speaker 6: big job and we have our first female GM in

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Speaker 6: the history of the National Hockey League.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's possible.

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Speaker 5: I think it's definitely possible.

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Speaker 3: I think, I mean, you could go to let me

506
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Speaker 3: look at Toronto and Haley wickanizer of her dad have

507
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Speaker 3: heard you know Cami Grnado too, that's another name that

508
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Speaker 3: she's in. She's in management as well. I mean I

509
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Speaker 3: think that it's I think it's a matter of time

510
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Speaker 3: before we probably get our first woman GM. I think

511
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Speaker 3: it's you know, you look at some of the women

512
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Speaker 3: throughout women's hockey, like Cameron now Hay organizers. These these

513
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Speaker 3: females like they they know a lot. They've been around

514
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Speaker 3: Hall of famers, no more than us. The Hall of Famer. Yeah,

515
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Speaker 3: so I wouldn't be surprised if that is a possibility.

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Speaker 1: But Jadi, imagine the men of sexist who would just

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Speaker 1: be outraged and Vancouver I this happened, there'd be a

518
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Speaker 1: mutiny if what the amount of sexist who.

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Speaker 5: Would be so upset?

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Speaker 2: You kid, of a woman running an NHL team? Are

521
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Speaker 2: you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: You would?

523
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Speaker 2: You would face that backlash. You and I both know this.

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Speaker 4: I can either confirm nor deny that would happen. The

525
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Speaker 4: majority of people this is awesome, and I refuse to

526
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Speaker 4: put my name on that on that that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're one of them.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that you are going to be people

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Speaker 1: who'd say you can't have a woman running a team.

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Speaker 3: T w h L.

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Speaker 5: No chance. I'm in two lawsuits. I don't want to

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Speaker 5: be in the third one.

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Speaker 1: Not about sexist all right, fair point, as long as

534
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Speaker 1: you're not also facing lawsuits for being a sexist.

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Speaker 5: No I'm not. I can only do racism, okay, So

536
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Speaker 5: I love to racism.

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Speaker 2: Huge racist, not a sexist. Still to come here.

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Speaker 5: Only one of as off the rails.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Only one of the isart.

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Speaker 3: We need another episode this week.

542
00:24:09,632 --> 00:24:11,592
Speaker 2: If we can get two episodes a week, that'd be great.

543
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Speaker 2: I mean, all kidding aside me.

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Speaker 1: If you had two episodes a week, you have to

545
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Speaker 1: listen to this episode the next six hours. If you

546
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Speaker 1: listen to this by eight o'clock tonight, the Flyers already

547
00:24:19,152 --> 00:24:20,992
Speaker 1: be up one to nothing. This is already a dated podcast.

548
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're already having so we might as well

549
00:24:23,152 --> 00:24:27,072
Speaker 4: just say shit, ougity boogey, ugy boogey. I mean, thirty

550
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Speaker 4: two Thoughts has three episodes a week free just phrages

551
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Speaker 4: of machine. We might as well just play.

552
00:24:33,712 --> 00:24:36,592
Speaker 5: Let's play thirty two Thoughts on audio and just let it.

553
00:24:36,712 --> 00:24:38,032
Speaker 5: Here's the update from.

554
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Speaker 2: Whatever it takes to get another episode out.

555
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Speaker 1: I love it still to come here in NHL Unscripted,

556
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Speaker 1: Bruce Cassi, that's right, butch Cassi in the Sun Dance case.

557
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Speaker 1: We'll ask him what happened in Vegas and what's next

558
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Speaker 1: for him? All that more coming up next after this

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Speaker 1: on NHL Unscripted.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest was.

561
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Speaker 1: Drafted eighteenth over wrong with the Chicago Blackhawks the nineteen.

562
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Speaker 2: Eighty three NHL Entry Draft.

563
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Speaker 1: Played thirty six games with Chicago before venturing into coaching

564
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Speaker 1: went on to coach parts of two seasons in Washington

565
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Speaker 1: before becoming head coach the Boston Bruins, taking them to

566
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Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup Final in twenty nineteen and winning the

567
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Speaker 1: Jack Adams Award in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: He most recently served as head coach the Vegas Golden Knights.

569
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Speaker 2: With him, he won the.

570
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Speaker 1: Stanley Cup in twenty twenty three to give that franchise

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Speaker 1: its first championship. Welcome Bruce Casty. Bruce, great to see you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Guys, It's always such a great time watching the first

574
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Speaker 1: round the NHL playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We know you're in Cape Cod right now. What have

576
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Speaker 2: your days been like ever since the recent change in Vegas?

577
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Speaker 7: Well, long, i'd rather be coaching in the playoffs. That's

578
00:25:53,752 --> 00:25:55,912
Speaker 7: what you grind all year for, to be honest, but

579
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Speaker 7: it didn't work out that way. So playing a little golf,

580
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Speaker 7: although it was this morning was forty four degrees out,

581
00:26:02,192 --> 00:26:09,232
Speaker 7: so not great. But to windy watching hockey actually, you

582
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Speaker 7: know kind of we have a summer house here, so,

583
00:26:12,072 --> 00:26:13,992
Speaker 7: you know, doing a few things around here. But I'm

584
00:26:14,032 --> 00:26:16,432
Speaker 7: not exactly a handyman, so it's it's not much.

585
00:26:16,512 --> 00:26:19,832
Speaker 5: Trust me, I'm not either.

586
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Speaker 4: But you know, Bruce, I just want to ask you,

587
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Speaker 4: like we've seen in recent years with coaching, it's it's

588
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Speaker 4: become harder and harder to I don't want to say

589
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Speaker 4: stay in the good graces of like management and leadership,

590
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Speaker 4: but like it's really judged of like what have you

591
00:26:34,072 --> 00:26:36,712
Speaker 4: done for me lately? And were you surprised at all

592
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Speaker 4: kind of how things went down? And for you, like

593
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Speaker 4: what do you make of the whole coaching carousel that's

594
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Speaker 4: going on in the NHL right now? It's just how

595
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Speaker 4: hard it is to really to cement yourself, no matter

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Speaker 4: how well you do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, that that part of it, Like you know,

598
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Speaker 7: usually I mean I got jobs because someone got fired, right,

599
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Speaker 7: So we kind of accept that to a certain extent,

600
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Speaker 7: that's the way it goes. It seems like this year

601
00:27:03,232 --> 00:27:06,072
Speaker 7: there was some late firing. Typically don't happen as often.

602
00:27:07,872 --> 00:27:10,312
Speaker 7: You know, I was one, Patrick raw was one. So

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Speaker 7: you know, maybe that will become a trend. I don't know.

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00:27:14,712 --> 00:27:17,072
Speaker 7: You know, that part of it is unfortunate because you know,

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Speaker 7: everyone wants to coach in the playoffs. I mean, you're

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Speaker 7: playing to get your name in the Stanley Cup, right

607
00:27:20,752 --> 00:27:22,832
Speaker 7: and and well we're no different as coaches. That's what

608
00:27:22,952 --> 00:27:25,592
Speaker 7: we want. So uh, you know those are tough, but

609
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Speaker 7: that's a little bit of the business and hopefully there's

610
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Speaker 7: a little more continuity going forward. But you know, you

611
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Speaker 7: see it every year, what was what five or six

612
00:27:34,272 --> 00:27:37,192
Speaker 7: guys that you know get shuffled around, and you know,

613
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Speaker 7: hopefully there's a you know, an opportunity for me to

614
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Speaker 7: jump back on the fierce wheel, so to speak down

615
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Speaker 7: the road and see how that works out.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there will be. Uh. We were all surprised

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Speaker 3: with how late Vegas made this coaching change. Were you

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Speaker 3: surprised to brus.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and and we didn't have a good march, so

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Speaker 7: you know, you always wonder some of our bigger guys

621
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Speaker 7: went silent, so that that's always where you some For

622
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Speaker 7: me as a coach, you know, we grind it all

623
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Speaker 7: year to stay in a playoff position. We had some injuries,

624
00:28:10,832 --> 00:28:14,752
Speaker 7: some other things happened, but I guess the easiest ways

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Speaker 7: to put it, I I'd rather still be there coaching.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, you spend that much time with

627
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Speaker 7: your team but didn't work out. So you know, there's

628
00:28:23,112 --> 00:28:26,072
Speaker 7: different emotions and you've got to detach yourself. I guess

629
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Speaker 7: at the end of the day and start thinking about

630
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Speaker 7: the next one.

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Speaker 1: At some point, As you said, Bruce, coaches are hired

632
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Speaker 1: to be fired, but when you're not expecting it, especially

633
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Speaker 1: after you've had some success with that franchise, the news

634
00:28:35,752 --> 00:28:39,352
Speaker 1: comes down, what happens immediately next? Do you call players?

635
00:28:39,392 --> 00:28:41,512
Speaker 1: Do you text players? Do you just clean your stuff out?

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00:28:41,552 --> 00:28:43,752
Speaker 1: I'm just curious the process in the immediate aftermath.

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00:28:44,792 --> 00:28:47,192
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's always you know, you know, in the middle

638
00:28:47,232 --> 00:28:49,832
Speaker 7: of the season. You know, it was a Sunday, so

639
00:28:50,152 --> 00:28:52,672
Speaker 7: we had a day off. It's like, you know, can

640
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Speaker 7: I come back and clean out my office in a

641
00:28:54,432 --> 00:28:56,192
Speaker 7: bit or you know what I mean, like someone's gonna

642
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Speaker 7: take it. So you're handing in your key fobs for

643
00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:02,832
Speaker 7: this and that and and and you know, it's a

644
00:29:02,872 --> 00:29:04,672
Speaker 7: little odd when, you know, when I got home later

645
00:29:04,792 --> 00:29:07,232
Speaker 7: that night, after I went into the office, because it's like, jeez,

646
00:29:07,232 --> 00:29:10,232
Speaker 7: I walked through that door. Probably h the practice rinks

647
00:29:10,272 --> 00:29:11,792
Speaker 7: in Summerland where a lot of the guys live. We're

648
00:29:11,792 --> 00:29:13,632
Speaker 7: not a team mobile a lot, so you're there even

649
00:29:13,712 --> 00:29:15,872
Speaker 7: on off days. It's eight minutes from your house, and

650
00:29:15,912 --> 00:29:18,192
Speaker 7: it's like, I ain't going back in there, so that

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Speaker 7: that was an odd one with some great memories there.

652
00:29:21,672 --> 00:29:25,472
Speaker 7: But yeah, after that, it's you know, you you sort

653
00:29:25,512 --> 00:29:27,632
Speaker 7: of o, hey, what am I going to do next?

654
00:29:27,672 --> 00:29:30,232
Speaker 7: And you're keeping a tabs on the team and talking

655
00:29:30,272 --> 00:29:32,672
Speaker 7: to some people. I texted every player that we coach there,

656
00:29:32,912 --> 00:29:35,552
Speaker 7: just especially the guys we won with. I mean, that's

657
00:29:35,552 --> 00:29:38,152
Speaker 7: something we'll have forever. He can't you know, he can't

658
00:29:38,192 --> 00:29:41,632
Speaker 7: take that away from anybody, player or coach. So you know,

659
00:29:42,112 --> 00:29:44,712
Speaker 7: that was the great part about Vegas and some you

660
00:29:44,752 --> 00:29:46,512
Speaker 7: hear back from some of you don't know, other guys

661
00:29:46,712 --> 00:29:48,712
Speaker 7: probably down the road a little bit more so that

662
00:29:48,832 --> 00:29:50,112
Speaker 7: that's a little bit what would happen?

663
00:29:50,672 --> 00:29:52,152
Speaker 2: Did you have any contact with Towards?

664
00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:56,832
Speaker 7: He texted me actually that that that night. I like Towards.

665
00:29:56,872 --> 00:29:59,512
Speaker 7: He's a classy guy. I've never worked directly with him,

666
00:30:00,752 --> 00:30:03,112
Speaker 7: we've coached against each other a number of times, including

667
00:30:03,152 --> 00:30:05,552
Speaker 7: in the playoffs. So he's doing a good job there

668
00:30:05,592 --> 00:30:07,112
Speaker 7: and I think he'll be he'll be a good voice

669
00:30:07,152 --> 00:30:08,352
Speaker 7: for them. Uh.

670
00:30:08,432 --> 00:30:11,872
Speaker 4: I'm always fascinated, Like now for you, you know, as

671
00:30:11,912 --> 00:30:13,712
Speaker 4: a player, you're like, okay, I just got to wait

672
00:30:13,752 --> 00:30:15,992
Speaker 4: till the next training camp and get back in and

673
00:30:16,032 --> 00:30:17,632
Speaker 4: I either got to get a PTO and stuff like that.

674
00:30:17,792 --> 00:30:21,512
Speaker 4: Do you but with your you know, resume, and you

675
00:30:21,592 --> 00:30:23,432
Speaker 4: know there's gonna be a lot of teams calling whenever

676
00:30:23,512 --> 00:30:25,672
Speaker 4: there are coaches on the hot seat. Do you have

677
00:30:25,792 --> 00:30:27,952
Speaker 4: some teams penciled down or like, what does it look

678
00:30:28,032 --> 00:30:30,392
Speaker 4: like for you? Are you wanting to jump right back in?

679
00:30:30,512 --> 00:30:32,152
Speaker 4: Do you want to be a little bit more methodical

680
00:30:32,872 --> 00:30:34,952
Speaker 4: and pick something that fits for you and your family?

681
00:30:36,192 --> 00:30:38,472
Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean, you know, I got kids in high school,

682
00:30:38,552 --> 00:30:45,072
Speaker 7: so you know that there's certainly those considerations and adversity.

683
00:30:45,192 --> 00:30:47,792
Speaker 7: You know, JAS is not necessarily the end of the world, right,

684
00:30:47,872 --> 00:30:49,792
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I have another year left to

685
00:30:49,872 --> 00:30:52,832
Speaker 7: my deal and we get paid well as coaches, so

686
00:30:54,792 --> 00:30:57,792
Speaker 7: but there is the family dynamic that sometimes you know

687
00:30:57,872 --> 00:30:59,592
Speaker 7: you're going to move your kids or not you're going

688
00:30:59,632 --> 00:31:02,912
Speaker 7: to you know, those are things that I suspect players

689
00:31:02,992 --> 00:31:05,032
Speaker 7: go through, just the kids are younger when it happens,

690
00:31:05,032 --> 00:31:06,992
Speaker 7: if they get traded at the deadline, they have to

691
00:31:07,072 --> 00:31:10,672
Speaker 7: go through some of that stuff too, So that's not

692
00:31:10,872 --> 00:31:14,272
Speaker 7: unique to us. But for me, it's like, there's no

693
00:31:14,392 --> 00:31:16,672
Speaker 7: openings right now, so there's not really much to even

694
00:31:16,872 --> 00:31:19,352
Speaker 7: look at and go, Okay, how about maybe this team's

695
00:31:19,392 --> 00:31:21,552
Speaker 7: a fit. So but you know how it works. You know,

696
00:31:21,672 --> 00:31:23,672
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks from now, after the first round,

697
00:31:23,672 --> 00:31:25,432
Speaker 7: there's going to be some teams that lose the first

698
00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:28,232
Speaker 7: round or disappointed. Sometimes the coach pays a price for that,

699
00:31:28,392 --> 00:31:31,072
Speaker 7: so that could be opening or gems make a decision

700
00:31:31,112 --> 00:31:34,552
Speaker 7: after evaluation. So I think that's still a ways away.

701
00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:37,032
Speaker 7: But yes, I'm a coach. I'm not getting any younger.

702
00:31:37,992 --> 00:31:40,472
Speaker 7: I'll be sixty one next month. I want to you know,

703
00:31:40,512 --> 00:31:43,192
Speaker 7: I want another opportunity to get the Cup. So I

704
00:31:43,272 --> 00:31:46,112
Speaker 7: would hate to see, you know, another year go by

705
00:31:46,192 --> 00:31:47,512
Speaker 7: where you don't get at it, because I'm not going

706
00:31:47,592 --> 00:31:49,072
Speaker 7: to have a chance this year. So that's how I'm

707
00:31:49,072 --> 00:31:51,672
Speaker 7: looking at it. And hopefully it's a good fit. Whatever

708
00:31:51,752 --> 00:31:53,192
Speaker 7: that team looks like, well.

709
00:31:53,072 --> 00:32:00,872
Speaker 5: Bruce, you look fucking fantastic. Looks like he's a hundred.

710
00:32:02,472 --> 00:32:04,912
Speaker 3: Stay on the cape. God good for it.

711
00:32:05,312 --> 00:32:07,592
Speaker 7: Must be the cave, Son, I don't know, it's.

712
00:32:07,432 --> 00:32:10,552
Speaker 3: Got to be the cave. We're gonna shift gears a

713
00:32:10,552 --> 00:32:13,712
Speaker 3: little bit. And you know you have as a player,

714
00:32:13,792 --> 00:32:15,672
Speaker 3: and I know as a player, you have different coaches

715
00:32:15,752 --> 00:32:18,832
Speaker 3: that are extremely influential on you. And you want to

716
00:32:19,352 --> 00:32:23,432
Speaker 3: you want a title with Darryl setter in in in Indianapolis.

717
00:32:23,592 --> 00:32:26,312
Speaker 3: How influential was he to your coaching style?

718
00:32:26,832 --> 00:32:29,272
Speaker 7: A lot, you know, and Darryl is uh, you know,

719
00:32:29,432 --> 00:32:33,152
Speaker 7: the people have different opinions of Darryl out there. We

720
00:32:33,552 --> 00:32:36,472
Speaker 7: you know, I was halfway through the second year with him.

721
00:32:36,472 --> 00:32:38,192
Speaker 7: The first year, you know, everything went well and were

722
00:32:38,192 --> 00:32:40,872
Speaker 7: losing the playoffs, right and having a good year. Played

723
00:32:40,872 --> 00:32:42,232
Speaker 7: a lot in the next year. He was tough on

724
00:32:42,272 --> 00:32:45,952
Speaker 7: a lot of the guys, and there was some days

725
00:32:45,992 --> 00:32:47,552
Speaker 7: I was like, is this really worth it? You know,

726
00:32:47,752 --> 00:32:50,752
Speaker 7: but he taught me how to win? We want a

727
00:32:50,872 --> 00:32:53,072
Speaker 7: championship that year you had to change your game a

728
00:32:53,112 --> 00:32:56,432
Speaker 7: little bit. We became a much more harder to play

729
00:32:56,432 --> 00:32:58,192
Speaker 7: against teams. So I learned a lot. You know. I

730
00:32:58,272 --> 00:33:03,552
Speaker 7: was always an offensively kind of dimensional defenseman, and and

731
00:33:03,832 --> 00:33:06,432
Speaker 7: you know, he taught me how to defend better and

732
00:33:06,472 --> 00:33:08,192
Speaker 7: the team how to defend better and how to be

733
00:33:08,312 --> 00:33:10,952
Speaker 7: you know, get get that identity. And I thought it

734
00:33:11,072 --> 00:33:12,992
Speaker 7: worked really well for us. So I've always taken that

735
00:33:13,152 --> 00:33:16,512
Speaker 7: part of it from him, and that there is a

736
00:33:16,632 --> 00:33:19,072
Speaker 7: learning curve and any push guys, he knew that he

737
00:33:19,152 --> 00:33:21,512
Speaker 7: could push you and then push a little more. But

738
00:33:21,592 --> 00:33:23,672
Speaker 7: I think he knew there was a line there as

739
00:33:23,752 --> 00:33:26,232
Speaker 7: well that you got to be careful with with players,

740
00:33:26,312 --> 00:33:29,832
Speaker 7: And so I enjoyed playing for Darryl at the end,

741
00:33:30,032 --> 00:33:33,032
Speaker 7: probably more after right, when you get a little bit older.

742
00:33:32,912 --> 00:33:34,992
Speaker 5: You've been through it a little realize.

743
00:33:34,792 --> 00:33:37,112
Speaker 7: You know, you go, Okay, this is why he did it.

744
00:33:37,672 --> 00:33:40,312
Speaker 7: I get it now. And now you're into coaching and

745
00:33:40,392 --> 00:33:42,792
Speaker 7: you see it right, Like, and I've had players i've

746
00:33:42,872 --> 00:33:45,032
Speaker 7: coached there now, coaches that will call me and tell

747
00:33:45,072 --> 00:33:47,272
Speaker 7: me the same thing, like, oh, I get now, why

748
00:33:47,872 --> 00:33:49,192
Speaker 7: you know you had to do it this way or

749
00:33:49,232 --> 00:33:51,272
Speaker 7: that way? Didn't have to, but chose to, right. So

750
00:33:52,752 --> 00:33:54,992
Speaker 7: that's what I learned from Darryl. And you know, I

751
00:33:55,032 --> 00:33:56,512
Speaker 7: think there was a lot of guys in that team.

752
00:33:56,592 --> 00:33:58,992
Speaker 7: The other thing, there's about ten or eleven guys went

753
00:33:59,072 --> 00:34:01,432
Speaker 7: from that IHL team in nineteen ninety on to be

754
00:34:01,512 --> 00:34:03,952
Speaker 7: good role players in the NHL. So we also taught

755
00:34:03,992 --> 00:34:06,832
Speaker 7: guys to okay, you're good down here in the IHL.

756
00:34:07,432 --> 00:34:09,552
Speaker 7: What can you do to help a team win? Bobby

757
00:34:09,632 --> 00:34:12,591
Speaker 7: Bass and Mike Eagles, Ryan McGill, Cam Russell, Brian Dude

758
00:34:12,631 --> 00:34:14,591
Speaker 7: and Mike Stapleton there was a bunch of guys that

759
00:34:14,672 --> 00:34:17,752
Speaker 7: were good role players. And then probably forget Warren Reichel,

760
00:34:17,872 --> 00:34:21,272
Speaker 7: three or four more other guys that you know that

761
00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:24,552
Speaker 7: went on and and did good jobs for teams because

762
00:34:25,071 --> 00:34:27,872
Speaker 7: Daryl probably taught them a little bit of selflessness and

763
00:34:28,272 --> 00:34:30,312
Speaker 7: and being, you know, doing you need to do to

764
00:34:31,031 --> 00:34:32,551
Speaker 7: help the team win. And so I give you a

765
00:34:32,631 --> 00:34:33,551
Speaker 7: lot of credit for them.

766
00:34:34,551 --> 00:34:36,631
Speaker 2: Those Cetter brothers. You turn around, there's another Cutter brother

767
00:34:36,712 --> 00:34:37,151
Speaker 2: looking at you.

768
00:34:37,712 --> 00:34:40,712
Speaker 1: After playing with Chicago Brewce, you played three seasons in Italy.

769
00:34:41,152 --> 00:34:43,031
Speaker 1: I mean, what are some of your favorite memories of

770
00:34:43,031 --> 00:34:44,272
Speaker 1: that experience beyond the food.

771
00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:47,792
Speaker 7: Well, the hockey wasn't I'll say it wasn't much. And

772
00:34:47,872 --> 00:34:50,792
Speaker 7: that's no disrespect to the Italians. Just aren't. They're not

773
00:34:50,872 --> 00:34:52,871
Speaker 7: good hockey players. And I'll tell you why they don't

774
00:34:53,471 --> 00:34:56,552
Speaker 7: value that. You know, they want to be soccer players

775
00:34:56,631 --> 00:35:00,832
Speaker 7: or tennis. Yeah, those are the people that the sports

776
00:35:00,872 --> 00:35:03,151
Speaker 7: that get paid over there. So half the guys that

777
00:35:03,312 --> 00:35:05,471
Speaker 7: played with how To had a day job. Like my

778
00:35:06,071 --> 00:35:08,232
Speaker 7: partner on d was a local cop, you know, and

779
00:35:08,672 --> 00:35:10,991
Speaker 7: Reed Larson was over there with me. His partner was

780
00:35:11,031 --> 00:35:13,911
Speaker 7: the plumber. So they're working all day. We practiced at

781
00:35:13,951 --> 00:35:17,352
Speaker 7: six thirty at night. Now, there was a few good

782
00:35:17,471 --> 00:35:20,111
Speaker 7: players in Milan, like Erry Curry was over there, Mark

783
00:35:20,192 --> 00:35:22,392
Speaker 7: Naprier and there's some different guys that came over. But

784
00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:25,192
Speaker 7: it wasn't like, you know, you know, it wasn't a

785
00:35:25,551 --> 00:35:28,352
Speaker 7: you know, a you know, intense sort of hockey league.

786
00:35:28,352 --> 00:35:30,392
Speaker 7: There was two really good teams. We were one of

787
00:35:30,431 --> 00:35:32,832
Speaker 7: the Okay Mountain teams us in Ballsano, but the Milan

788
00:35:32,951 --> 00:35:34,591
Speaker 7: teams had the most money, so they were able to

789
00:35:34,672 --> 00:35:37,431
Speaker 7: pay more, and so that part of it was, you

790
00:35:37,471 --> 00:35:39,151
Speaker 7: know what it was the best part was to see

791
00:35:39,192 --> 00:35:41,991
Speaker 7: the world because you had some time off, so you'd

792
00:35:42,071 --> 00:35:45,112
Speaker 7: take a train over to Paris. I'd drive to Munich

793
00:35:45,192 --> 00:35:47,872
Speaker 7: for October Fest stuff like that. You know that you're

794
00:35:47,911 --> 00:35:50,231
Speaker 7: not doing over here right now. If you live near

795
00:35:50,312 --> 00:35:52,271
Speaker 7: New York City or something, you can you know, zip

796
00:35:52,352 --> 00:35:55,511
Speaker 7: in there. But in general, there's just it was a

797
00:35:55,511 --> 00:35:57,551
Speaker 7: little more laid back, so you had, you know, and

798
00:35:57,631 --> 00:36:01,312
Speaker 7: I saw Rome Venice a number of times. I'd go

799
00:36:01,431 --> 00:36:03,671
Speaker 7: to so seeing part of the world where probably the

800
00:36:03,991 --> 00:36:05,991
Speaker 7: best memories. Now we're over there for the Olympics this

801
00:36:06,111 --> 00:36:09,392
Speaker 7: year in Milan, and you're kind of back at it

802
00:36:09,431 --> 00:36:11,151
Speaker 7: a little bit but that was a little more. That

803
00:36:11,232 --> 00:36:15,072
Speaker 7: was obviously a business trip, so not as much getting around.

804
00:36:15,192 --> 00:36:18,951
Speaker 7: But yeah, you know, listen, you made a little more

805
00:36:18,991 --> 00:36:21,031
Speaker 7: money than you did the miners. Back then, they didn't

806
00:36:21,031 --> 00:36:23,231
Speaker 7: pay much in the miners. Like there was a right

807
00:36:23,312 --> 00:36:25,111
Speaker 7: after that when the eye opened up a little bit,

808
00:36:25,152 --> 00:36:27,271
Speaker 7: they started paying a little more in Vegas. I think

809
00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:29,552
Speaker 7: it was Vegas, San Diego, some of these bigger markets,

810
00:36:29,591 --> 00:36:32,392
Speaker 7: the Wolves, Detroit, they started playing the guys a little better.

811
00:36:32,471 --> 00:36:33,832
Speaker 7: But when I was in the miners, you know, it

812
00:36:33,911 --> 00:36:36,151
Speaker 7: was there was just, you know, less freedom to move around.

813
00:36:36,192 --> 00:36:38,271
Speaker 7: There wasn't there wasn't a whole lot of money being

814
00:36:38,312 --> 00:36:39,392
Speaker 7: a minor league Ocup player.

815
00:36:39,911 --> 00:36:42,031
Speaker 1: How old was Jerry Curry when he was playing fifty seven?

816
00:36:42,071 --> 00:36:42,551
Speaker 2: Did he still was?

817
00:36:42,872 --> 00:36:45,991
Speaker 7: No, No, he was still good. But I think it

818
00:36:46,071 --> 00:36:49,231
Speaker 7: was right after so it was ninety two or ninety three.

819
00:36:49,312 --> 00:36:52,192
Speaker 7: I mean, when did he win his last Cup and

820
00:36:52,712 --> 00:36:55,511
Speaker 7: did he play in that? Was it eighty eight nine? Yea,

821
00:36:56,232 --> 00:36:58,911
Speaker 7: So he wasn't that far removed from from winning, so

822
00:36:59,152 --> 00:37:01,431
Speaker 7: it was obviously still. I thought it was great playing

823
00:37:01,431 --> 00:37:03,392
Speaker 7: against them. I mean, there's a guy that one of

824
00:37:03,471 --> 00:37:06,832
Speaker 7: the most under did probably players ever play. I thought

825
00:37:06,872 --> 00:37:07,352
Speaker 7: it was great.

826
00:37:07,991 --> 00:37:09,592
Speaker 2: A lot in common with that Meanton Inventus.

827
00:37:09,591 --> 00:37:12,991
Speaker 4: I'm sure go ahead you yeah, Well I was gonna

828
00:37:12,991 --> 00:37:15,951
Speaker 4: say that's why I'm like, okay, so Boston. He wanted

829
00:37:15,991 --> 00:37:18,511
Speaker 4: to be close to the North End, get the pasta

830
00:37:19,192 --> 00:37:21,192
Speaker 4: a little bit of Italy, your three seasons in Italy.

831
00:37:21,272 --> 00:37:23,191
Speaker 7: But I got I got raised shirt on. He's got

832
00:37:23,232 --> 00:37:27,672
Speaker 7: a restaurant, I was. It's a great spot.

833
00:37:27,832 --> 00:37:30,392
Speaker 4: So I was doing color for the Sharks and I

834
00:37:30,471 --> 00:37:32,311
Speaker 4: went to his restaurant. I always go when I'm in town.

835
00:37:32,392 --> 00:37:36,312
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, talking about when you started in Providence,

836
00:37:36,511 --> 00:37:38,832
Speaker 4: you know you had a young Brad Marshad, But how

837
00:37:38,991 --> 00:37:40,991
Speaker 4: was that transition for you? Like was it always something

838
00:37:41,031 --> 00:37:43,352
Speaker 4: in your head when you were playing, and maybe it

839
00:37:43,431 --> 00:37:45,551
Speaker 4: was the years in Italy and as your career is

840
00:37:45,591 --> 00:37:47,352
Speaker 4: winding down where you're like, I want to go coach,

841
00:37:47,431 --> 00:37:50,232
Speaker 4: and and how'd you get that opportunity with the with

842
00:37:50,471 --> 00:37:54,712
Speaker 4: in Providence? And then also, you know, how was that

843
00:37:54,832 --> 00:37:57,511
Speaker 4: transition getting a Brad Marchhaan, that's that's so young and

844
00:37:57,911 --> 00:38:00,392
Speaker 4: you know you're thrown in the mix.

845
00:38:00,911 --> 00:38:03,032
Speaker 7: Well, you know what's ironic is Nate Thompson was supposed

846
00:38:03,031 --> 00:38:04,352
Speaker 7: to be on that team and I think he got

847
00:38:04,511 --> 00:38:08,031
Speaker 7: picked up by the Islanders, so you know, all of

848
00:38:08,071 --> 00:38:10,832
Speaker 7: a sudden it opens the door for the Marsh. And

849
00:38:10,911 --> 00:38:12,991
Speaker 7: there's a kid named Laddie Sabotka was a good little

850
00:38:13,031 --> 00:38:16,431
Speaker 7: player too, and I think he's back, he's playing in Chechyre.

851
00:38:17,471 --> 00:38:22,671
Speaker 7: But yeah, Marsh was great. He was a student of

852
00:38:22,752 --> 00:38:25,711
Speaker 7: the game, the hardest working guy, always the last guy

853
00:38:25,792 --> 00:38:27,951
Speaker 7: off practice. You know, this guy was not going to

854
00:38:27,991 --> 00:38:31,431
Speaker 7: be denied through lack of effort. You know, sometimes you

855
00:38:31,591 --> 00:38:33,471
Speaker 7: just don't have the skill set or whatnot. He found

856
00:38:33,511 --> 00:38:35,431
Speaker 7: his way up there and worked his way up from

857
00:38:35,431 --> 00:38:37,511
Speaker 7: the fourth line to the second line to the top line.

858
00:38:37,591 --> 00:38:40,031
Speaker 7: So good for him. But yeah, that that one came

859
00:38:40,071 --> 00:38:43,671
Speaker 7: into play. I'd already had a chance in Washington when

860
00:38:43,712 --> 00:38:45,671
Speaker 7: I was young, and it, you know then, you know,

861
00:38:45,792 --> 00:38:47,911
Speaker 7: kind of bounced around a bit. So that was the

862
00:38:48,031 --> 00:38:50,551
Speaker 7: opportunity for me was to get back in it. And

863
00:38:50,672 --> 00:38:52,872
Speaker 7: Peter Shrelly was a friend of mine from Ottawa, so

864
00:38:53,111 --> 00:38:55,271
Speaker 7: they were looking for a coach and so I called

865
00:38:55,312 --> 00:38:58,511
Speaker 7: him up, and you know that that got it going

866
00:38:58,591 --> 00:39:00,991
Speaker 7: again and it was a good organization for me. It

867
00:39:01,071 --> 00:39:02,951
Speaker 7: was good timing. I spent a lot of eight years

868
00:39:02,951 --> 00:39:05,071
Speaker 7: in the miners, there in Providence, thought it, you know,

869
00:39:05,312 --> 00:39:08,111
Speaker 7: really helped me for the next job in Boston, So

870
00:39:08,192 --> 00:39:11,671
Speaker 7: it was all worth it in the end. And I

871
00:39:11,792 --> 00:39:13,511
Speaker 7: enjoyed listen. I enjoyed the teaching part of it. I

872
00:39:13,631 --> 00:39:16,272
Speaker 7: enjoyed being around the young guys. That's been most of

873
00:39:16,312 --> 00:39:18,832
Speaker 7: my career there until the last ten years, so I

874
00:39:18,911 --> 00:39:20,752
Speaker 7: didn't know if i'd get back up or not. And

875
00:39:21,111 --> 00:39:22,752
Speaker 7: here we are, Bruce.

876
00:39:22,832 --> 00:39:24,991
Speaker 4: I want to ask you quickly because you mentioned you know,

877
00:39:25,111 --> 00:39:27,991
Speaker 4: Brad wouldn't be denied, and you know it's hard to

878
00:39:28,031 --> 00:39:30,312
Speaker 4: teach guys that work ethic and you know, me not

879
00:39:30,431 --> 00:39:33,591
Speaker 4: being in a coaches room, how difficult for you is

880
00:39:33,712 --> 00:39:36,832
Speaker 4: it sometimes to like see a guy that you're coaching

881
00:39:36,911 --> 00:39:39,951
Speaker 4: and you're like, this guy doesn't even realize how good

882
00:39:40,031 --> 00:39:43,872
Speaker 4: he can be if he just figures out that part

883
00:39:43,951 --> 00:39:46,711
Speaker 4: that work ethic and trying to communicate that to them.

884
00:39:47,911 --> 00:39:50,311
Speaker 7: Yeah, I had a player say that to me once

885
00:39:50,392 --> 00:39:52,551
Speaker 7: after he's done. He said, I think the problem was

886
00:39:52,631 --> 00:39:54,671
Speaker 7: you wanted it more than I did, right, And that's

887
00:39:55,111 --> 00:39:58,192
Speaker 7: that That was a little bit of the dilemma you

888
00:39:58,272 --> 00:40:01,752
Speaker 7: have as a coach because you want those So for me,

889
00:40:02,511 --> 00:40:03,991
Speaker 7: being a guy that spent most of my life in

890
00:40:04,031 --> 00:40:06,791
Speaker 7: the mind or I really like enjoyed seeing a guy

891
00:40:07,192 --> 00:40:09,232
Speaker 7: make the next step, make a little money, you know,

892
00:40:09,392 --> 00:40:11,711
Speaker 7: get to the NHL. That's everyone's dream. No one dreams

893
00:40:11,712 --> 00:40:15,192
Speaker 7: about being a minor league player, right, So you know

894
00:40:15,352 --> 00:40:17,471
Speaker 7: that that made me feel good. It also helped me.

895
00:40:17,832 --> 00:40:20,191
Speaker 7: You know, Listen, you're a coach. You need to hang

896
00:40:20,232 --> 00:40:22,312
Speaker 7: your hat on something. You got to win, but in

897
00:40:22,352 --> 00:40:24,071
Speaker 7: the miners, they don't always have it. You know, you're

898
00:40:24,111 --> 00:40:26,512
Speaker 7: developing more than winning. So if you can develop players,

899
00:40:26,591 --> 00:40:28,991
Speaker 7: you can build a reputation as that part of it.

900
00:40:29,111 --> 00:40:31,552
Speaker 7: So there was that part in it for the coach,

901
00:40:31,712 --> 00:40:34,671
Speaker 7: but you know, I more more excited to see the

902
00:40:34,712 --> 00:40:36,511
Speaker 7: player make it because I went through it. I know

903
00:40:36,631 --> 00:40:39,032
Speaker 7: the grind of it, and it's not easy to climb

904
00:40:39,111 --> 00:40:41,512
Speaker 7: over people and be a good teammate in the miners

905
00:40:41,591 --> 00:40:43,591
Speaker 7: yet outplay the guy beside you, because that's what you

906
00:40:43,712 --> 00:40:46,991
Speaker 7: essentially got to do to get up. So so that

907
00:40:47,152 --> 00:40:50,671
Speaker 7: that's the part that I always found challenging is when

908
00:40:50,712 --> 00:40:52,832
Speaker 7: the player would be like, you know, you don't know

909
00:40:52,872 --> 00:40:55,232
Speaker 7: how close you are, but if it just and you

910
00:40:55,352 --> 00:40:57,352
Speaker 7: go through, you went through go through a lot of those.

911
00:40:57,392 --> 00:41:01,272
Speaker 7: There's still guys I'm sure. In the American League coaches

912
00:41:01,312 --> 00:41:04,231
Speaker 7: you'd ask them, they'd say the same thing, right, They

913
00:41:04,471 --> 00:41:07,192
Speaker 7: just they don't want it bad enough, and and eventually

914
00:41:07,312 --> 00:41:10,151
Speaker 7: that's that's your ticket out because there's a lot of skill.

915
00:41:10,272 --> 00:41:12,511
Speaker 7: A guy could get drafted first round or second round

916
00:41:12,591 --> 00:41:14,511
Speaker 7: or down there. There's all kinds of skill around him,

917
00:41:14,511 --> 00:41:16,352
Speaker 7: and you've got to find a way to kind of

918
00:41:16,392 --> 00:41:18,272
Speaker 7: step ahead of a guy, and it might be changing

919
00:41:18,392 --> 00:41:20,712
Speaker 7: your you know, your your game a little bit. I

920
00:41:20,752 --> 00:41:22,911
Speaker 7: remember when I was that age. It was Doug Gilmour, right,

921
00:41:22,951 --> 00:41:24,711
Speaker 7: he was, he was he's a couple of years older

922
00:41:24,752 --> 00:41:27,792
Speaker 7: than me, but yeah, he's in junior hockey, he's a study,

923
00:41:27,792 --> 00:41:29,832
Speaker 7: he's the leading scorer, and then he goes to I

924
00:41:29,911 --> 00:41:32,272
Speaker 7: can't remember his Calgary or Saint Louis, what the order was,

925
00:41:32,352 --> 00:41:34,512
Speaker 7: but he goes down there and he becomes a fourth

926
00:41:34,551 --> 00:41:36,712
Speaker 7: line guy and grinds and then all of a sudden

927
00:41:36,752 --> 00:41:39,832
Speaker 7: he gets you know, he climbs up and he's a

928
00:41:39,872 --> 00:41:42,911
Speaker 7: first line superstar. So there's a little bit of that

929
00:41:43,031 --> 00:41:44,951
Speaker 7: in there too. But you know, no one could tell

930
00:41:44,991 --> 00:41:47,191
Speaker 7: me Killer didn't want it more than the next guy, right,

931
00:41:47,312 --> 00:41:49,352
Speaker 7: Like his effort was one hundred percent every night. So

932
00:41:50,111 --> 00:41:52,471
Speaker 7: there's all kinds of those stories, but sometimes it just

933
00:41:52,551 --> 00:41:55,632
Speaker 7: doesn't translate to the players, and that's the way that goals.

934
00:41:55,672 --> 00:41:57,631
Speaker 7: You got to move on. I guess it's it's too

935
00:41:57,712 --> 00:42:00,071
Speaker 7: bad for some of them, but that's that's hockey. That's

936
00:42:00,192 --> 00:42:02,151
Speaker 7: that's their choice that they end up making.

937
00:42:04,031 --> 00:42:04,911
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did.

938
00:42:04,991 --> 00:42:05,031
Speaker 7: We.

939
00:42:05,152 --> 00:42:07,431
Speaker 3: I think we missed each other by minutes, you know,

940
00:42:07,551 --> 00:42:09,551
Speaker 3: being in Providence the year before we getting picked up

941
00:42:09,551 --> 00:42:13,031
Speaker 3: off waivers by the Islanders. You might know more than me,

942
00:42:13,272 --> 00:42:16,591
Speaker 3: but I heard that Brad was supposed to join our

943
00:42:16,672 --> 00:42:21,431
Speaker 3: team in the playoffs the previous season but didn't for whatever,

944
00:42:21,471 --> 00:42:25,271
Speaker 3: for whatever reason. Another guy I wanted to touch on too,

945
00:42:25,352 --> 00:42:27,312
Speaker 3: who I played with that year year before you came in,

946
00:42:27,591 --> 00:42:31,071
Speaker 3: was too Kerask. And you know, we know how competitive

947
00:42:31,111 --> 00:42:33,792
Speaker 3: he is, and you got to see, I guess, his

948
00:42:34,232 --> 00:42:36,951
Speaker 3: his temper, his temper flair, and we all know what

949
00:42:37,071 --> 00:42:38,951
Speaker 3: goes back to when he loses it in that game

950
00:42:39,031 --> 00:42:41,871
Speaker 3: and throws a stick. How were you able to calm

951
00:42:41,991 --> 00:42:44,232
Speaker 3: this guy down and maybe him, you know, toe the

952
00:42:44,352 --> 00:42:47,111
Speaker 3: line with you know, being that competitive guy and not

953
00:42:47,272 --> 00:42:48,231
Speaker 3: losing it at the same time.

954
00:42:48,392 --> 00:42:50,671
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was funny. The milk create incident. I was

955
00:42:50,872 --> 00:42:53,431
Speaker 7: I was you know the dress room probably right. I

956
00:42:53,511 --> 00:42:55,631
Speaker 7: was halfway down the hallway in the coach's office and

957
00:42:56,312 --> 00:42:59,551
Speaker 7: everyone's going bananas. So I missed half of it, but

958
00:42:59,832 --> 00:43:02,951
Speaker 7: it's out there, you can google it. So but I

959
00:43:03,071 --> 00:43:05,352
Speaker 7: think once when I had him in Boston, he was

960
00:43:05,392 --> 00:43:06,352
Speaker 7: a pretty measured guy.

961
00:43:06,712 --> 00:43:06,832
Speaker 4: Uh.

962
00:43:06,991 --> 00:43:10,152
Speaker 7: So he obviously learned that, yes, and he's got passion,

963
00:43:10,192 --> 00:43:11,911
Speaker 7: he's got fired and you should, right, you'd like to

964
00:43:11,951 --> 00:43:14,872
Speaker 7: see that out of especially a leadership position like that.

965
00:43:15,111 --> 00:43:18,111
Speaker 7: So you know, he he learned over the years that

966
00:43:18,392 --> 00:43:20,752
Speaker 7: you know, there's certain stuff that could probably do and

967
00:43:20,832 --> 00:43:24,151
Speaker 7: other stuff you'd have to sort of focus, uh and

968
00:43:24,471 --> 00:43:28,191
Speaker 7: channel that into uh sort of positive energy if you could.

969
00:43:28,272 --> 00:43:30,951
Speaker 7: But I love Tuca. We're still buddies golf a little

970
00:43:30,951 --> 00:43:32,632
Speaker 7: bit here and there. I think he was great goalie

971
00:43:32,672 --> 00:43:34,711
Speaker 7: for Boston. I think the fans I don't think they

972
00:43:34,752 --> 00:43:36,951
Speaker 7: ever gave him his due there. I think maybe because

973
00:43:36,991 --> 00:43:39,752
Speaker 7: Timmy Thomas had such a run that year that the

974
00:43:39,872 --> 00:43:42,111
Speaker 7: standard got set so high. But I thought Tuca was,

975
00:43:42,272 --> 00:43:43,712
Speaker 7: you know, one of the best in Boston.

976
00:43:44,511 --> 00:43:46,832
Speaker 1: Bruce, you're on Team Canna's coaching staff for both Four

977
00:43:46,951 --> 00:43:49,191
Speaker 1: Nations and the Olympics. Three of the four of US

978
00:43:49,232 --> 00:43:51,631
Speaker 1: are Canadian, So don't hold it against Nate that he's

979
00:43:51,672 --> 00:43:54,232
Speaker 1: the lone Yankee here. Can we just admit what a

980
00:43:54,312 --> 00:43:56,511
Speaker 1: joke the three on three is, like, clearly Cannon is

981
00:43:56,511 --> 00:43:56,911
Speaker 1: a better team.

982
00:43:56,951 --> 00:43:58,072
Speaker 5: We want to three one.

983
00:43:59,111 --> 00:43:59,872
Speaker 2: Bruce would have won.

984
00:44:01,352 --> 00:44:04,352
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's uh, that's a you know, listen, we beat

985
00:44:04,471 --> 00:44:07,151
Speaker 7: the Checks three on three, right, so and then you

986
00:44:07,471 --> 00:44:09,471
Speaker 7: you know it's it's I don't remember that, but I

987
00:44:10,792 --> 00:44:12,711
Speaker 7: do agree with you. They need to find a way

988
00:44:12,792 --> 00:44:14,951
Speaker 7: to play at least one overtime period. I know that

989
00:44:15,551 --> 00:44:17,511
Speaker 7: when the questions were asked, it was always, well, they

990
00:44:17,551 --> 00:44:21,191
Speaker 7: always want the game up against the closing ceremonies, right,

991
00:44:21,232 --> 00:44:22,871
Speaker 7: they want the game to end then they can start.

992
00:44:22,991 --> 00:44:26,831
Speaker 7: So maybe there's a way to. I mean it's an hour,

993
00:44:27,031 --> 00:44:32,911
Speaker 7: right extra half a Canadians. Well, for whoever, no one's

994
00:44:32,951 --> 00:44:36,392
Speaker 7: going to like losing that way. And I guess it's

995
00:44:36,431 --> 00:44:38,511
Speaker 7: the old it's the same for both teams type of thing.

996
00:44:38,631 --> 00:44:42,951
Speaker 7: But they should address that. They really should, you know,

997
00:44:43,232 --> 00:44:45,832
Speaker 7: just to find a way to because you're right, it

998
00:44:45,951 --> 00:44:47,991
Speaker 7: is four years four years at work, you know, you

999
00:44:48,071 --> 00:44:50,631
Speaker 7: think four years at least at least one period of

1000
00:44:51,232 --> 00:44:54,111
Speaker 7: of five on five. And then I guess you know,

1001
00:44:54,312 --> 00:44:55,031
Speaker 7: do what you gotta do.

1002
00:44:56,031 --> 00:44:58,551
Speaker 4: Who's the who's the player that impressed you the most

1003
00:44:58,631 --> 00:45:00,991
Speaker 4: that you didn't know and when you were there with

1004
00:45:01,071 --> 00:45:03,951
Speaker 4: Team Canada at the Olympics, and and what can you

1005
00:45:04,031 --> 00:45:04,832
Speaker 4: tell us about him?

1006
00:45:06,111 --> 00:45:08,792
Speaker 7: Well? Then you know the big guys, did There two

1007
00:45:08,872 --> 00:45:13,312
Speaker 7: guys I guess uh Devon T's uh d Man with Colorado,

1008
00:45:15,672 --> 00:45:19,231
Speaker 7: you know, just such a solid player, not a big guy,

1009
00:45:19,392 --> 00:45:22,392
Speaker 7: not flashy, not dynamic, but always in the right spot, smart,

1010
00:45:22,511 --> 00:45:24,832
Speaker 7: makes plays. I think he's the guy that had the

1011
00:45:24,872 --> 00:45:28,551
Speaker 7: open net, didn't it with with Hella Buck making that

1012
00:45:28,672 --> 00:45:30,551
Speaker 7: save in the crease to that one where the kind

1013
00:45:30,551 --> 00:45:35,592
Speaker 7: of stick you know what I mean? And then hegel

1014
00:45:35,752 --> 00:45:39,991
Speaker 7: up front with Tampa. Uh really impressed is more at

1015
00:45:40,031 --> 00:45:43,991
Speaker 7: the Four Nations probably than the Olympics, about how how

1016
00:45:44,031 --> 00:45:47,312
Speaker 7: good a Plury was in all situations. Penalty killer, uh

1017
00:45:47,471 --> 00:45:51,032
Speaker 7: can scores, got pace, got a little grit, good scrap.

1018
00:45:51,152 --> 00:45:53,191
Speaker 7: Last night again too, was it last night he fought again?

1019
00:45:54,551 --> 00:45:57,312
Speaker 7: You know the fight in mar you know against Kachuk.

1020
00:45:57,431 --> 00:45:59,872
Speaker 7: So those two guys, because I'm picking more under their

1021
00:45:59,911 --> 00:46:02,872
Speaker 7: I mean, the other guys are you know well talked

1022
00:46:02,872 --> 00:46:04,911
Speaker 7: about the mckinnons and mcdavids, with the Those are probably

1023
00:46:04,951 --> 00:46:09,232
Speaker 7: two guys that maybe you don't realize quite uh, you know,

1024
00:46:09,312 --> 00:46:13,272
Speaker 7: how dynamic they are till you untill you're right there.

1025
00:46:15,111 --> 00:46:17,311
Speaker 3: On the coaching staff to Bruce, you know, your coach

1026
00:46:17,392 --> 00:46:20,911
Speaker 3: with Pete de boor Rick Talckett uh and then John Cooper.

1027
00:46:21,792 --> 00:46:25,271
Speaker 3: These guys are obviously legendary coaches. Were there different things

1028
00:46:25,392 --> 00:46:27,591
Speaker 3: you took from these guys to uh?

1029
00:46:27,712 --> 00:46:30,312
Speaker 7: For sure? I think Coop is uh such a good

1030
00:46:30,392 --> 00:46:34,471
Speaker 7: speaker in front of the group because timing is always excellent.

1031
00:46:36,591 --> 00:46:40,272
Speaker 7: He uses a lot of you know, sort of comparable

1032
00:46:40,392 --> 00:46:45,392
Speaker 7: stories to mix in his message. This smart guy, you know,

1033
00:46:45,712 --> 00:46:48,111
Speaker 7: and and he relates to the player as well. He

1034
00:46:48,152 --> 00:46:49,991
Speaker 7: seems to know what needs to be said at the

1035
00:46:50,071 --> 00:46:53,951
Speaker 7: right time. He's obviously has had tremendous success, you know,

1036
00:46:54,071 --> 00:46:56,711
Speaker 7: with the same group. That's hard to do to hold

1037
00:46:56,712 --> 00:46:59,471
Speaker 7: their attention. So I think he's you know, he's pretty

1038
00:46:59,551 --> 00:47:04,352
Speaker 7: dynamic that way. I love talk talk the details guy,

1039
00:47:05,232 --> 00:47:07,832
Speaker 7: That's what I am. And you know, we talk a

1040
00:47:07,911 --> 00:47:11,032
Speaker 7: lot about different areas of the game. You know, Pete

1041
00:47:11,152 --> 00:47:13,832
Speaker 7: a really good defensive zone structure I think is his

1042
00:47:13,991 --> 00:47:18,191
Speaker 7: strength and PK stuff. He's more on the defensive side

1043
00:47:18,192 --> 00:47:20,511
Speaker 7: of the puck, so you're taking stuff like I like

1044
00:47:20,591 --> 00:47:23,591
Speaker 7: the way our our, my teams, whatever you want to

1045
00:47:23,591 --> 00:47:25,312
Speaker 7: call him, have played zone over the years. I think

1046
00:47:25,352 --> 00:47:27,551
Speaker 7: the numbers support that. But Pete's is interesting. It's a

1047
00:47:27,551 --> 00:47:30,232
Speaker 7: little different, a little more aggressive, and maybe that's something

1048
00:47:30,312 --> 00:47:31,951
Speaker 7: you think down the road. Well, if you want to

1049
00:47:31,951 --> 00:47:35,551
Speaker 7: get away from something, i'd certainly. I don't know if

1050
00:47:35,631 --> 00:47:38,551
Speaker 7: the word is steal from him, because everyone takes it's

1051
00:47:38,631 --> 00:47:41,191
Speaker 7: It's kind of that league, right, You're always taking something

1052
00:47:41,232 --> 00:47:43,911
Speaker 7: from someone if it's successful. So uh, I he did

1053
00:47:43,951 --> 00:47:46,352
Speaker 7: a real good job with that. David Alexander's a goalie coach.

1054
00:47:46,392 --> 00:47:49,951
Speaker 7: He's he's a great guy, hard working, detailed, so it

1055
00:47:50,071 --> 00:47:52,151
Speaker 7: was a great staff. Misha Don Scoff is doing the

1056
00:47:52,192 --> 00:47:55,471
Speaker 7: pre scote. I think he's coaching the World championship team

1057
00:47:55,511 --> 00:47:57,991
Speaker 7: this year for Canada, so had him in Vegas. So

1058
00:47:58,431 --> 00:48:00,751
Speaker 7: I was lucky to be surrounded by guys that all

1059
00:48:00,832 --> 00:48:03,872
Speaker 7: got along and all kind of I don't want to

1060
00:48:03,872 --> 00:48:06,071
Speaker 7: say stated their lane, but knew their role and tried

1061
00:48:06,111 --> 00:48:08,551
Speaker 7: to just support John anyway they could. And I thought

1062
00:48:08,591 --> 00:48:09,511
Speaker 7: we did a good job with her.

1063
00:48:10,312 --> 00:48:11,872
Speaker 1: We'll get you out here in a minute, but pretty

1064
00:48:11,951 --> 00:48:13,711
Speaker 1: cool that you get to know Bill Belichick a little

1065
00:48:13,712 --> 00:48:17,232
Speaker 1: bit while you're in Yeah, yes, I mean from Bill Belichick.

1066
00:48:17,752 --> 00:48:19,752
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was you know what dating advice.

1067
00:48:22,152 --> 00:48:23,071
Speaker 3: I thought that was coming.

1068
00:48:23,511 --> 00:48:29,552
Speaker 7: Put that in my back pocket. He I talked to him. Actually,

1069
00:48:29,591 --> 00:48:32,832
Speaker 7: we had the layoff before the nineteen finals against Saint Louis.

1070
00:48:32,911 --> 00:48:35,752
Speaker 7: We'd we'd swept Carolina, so we had eleven days, so

1071
00:48:35,832 --> 00:48:37,511
Speaker 7: I'd called him because he does that. You know, they

1072
00:48:37,591 --> 00:48:39,191
Speaker 7: used to have the two week prep for Super Bowl,

1073
00:48:39,232 --> 00:48:41,471
Speaker 7: and someone said you should call him. So we had

1074
00:48:41,511 --> 00:48:44,752
Speaker 7: a great chat. I didn't think he was going to

1075
00:48:44,792 --> 00:48:46,471
Speaker 7: get back to me. My phone rings that quarter to

1076
00:48:46,511 --> 00:48:48,111
Speaker 7: eleven at night. I'm not going to answer it, and

1077
00:48:48,152 --> 00:48:50,111
Speaker 7: I do because it wasn't his number it was and

1078
00:48:50,232 --> 00:48:52,831
Speaker 7: he's like, sorry, Bruce, I'm grinding at PTOs or whatever

1079
00:48:52,872 --> 00:48:53,671
Speaker 7: they're called all day.

1080
00:48:53,672 --> 00:48:54,191
Speaker 5: And he got back.

1081
00:48:54,352 --> 00:48:56,872
Speaker 7: We chatted for a good half an hour, just about

1082
00:48:57,712 --> 00:49:01,832
Speaker 7: he's a details guy too, and about how teams often

1083
00:49:02,031 --> 00:49:04,511
Speaker 7: if you're just ready and prepared, they'll beat themselves and

1084
00:49:04,591 --> 00:49:07,511
Speaker 7: situations and just little things like that, and so you

1085
00:49:07,672 --> 00:49:10,311
Speaker 7: kind of remind me about that. With the extra time,

1086
00:49:10,352 --> 00:49:13,632
Speaker 7: make sure you revisit the little things. Maybe face off coverages,

1087
00:49:13,672 --> 00:49:17,232
Speaker 7: et cetera over that time and it just kind of

1088
00:49:17,272 --> 00:49:19,272
Speaker 7: grew from there. We kept in touch over the years

1089
00:49:19,352 --> 00:49:23,591
Speaker 7: and he's a good fellow to talk talk sports with, right,

1090
00:49:24,832 --> 00:49:26,792
Speaker 7: you know, and like I said, I really enjoyed it.

1091
00:49:26,792 --> 00:49:29,352
Speaker 7: I think he was a rugby guy, if I'm not mistaken,

1092
00:49:29,631 --> 00:49:33,151
Speaker 7: way back when, and obviously he was that sort of

1093
00:49:33,192 --> 00:49:34,991
Speaker 7: team sport to translate to football.

1094
00:49:35,911 --> 00:49:38,631
Speaker 4: My one thing that I love that you said there

1095
00:49:38,672 --> 00:49:42,031
Speaker 4: too with Bill is like the details side and being

1096
00:49:42,111 --> 00:49:45,031
Speaker 4: prepared is I love every face off having a plan.

1097
00:49:45,511 --> 00:49:48,792
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter what zone you're in, neutral zone. Everyone should

1098
00:49:48,872 --> 00:49:51,911
Speaker 4: know loss or when, what's the play, what we're doing.

1099
00:49:52,591 --> 00:49:54,951
Speaker 4: And I find the young generation a lot of the

1100
00:49:54,991 --> 00:49:57,471
Speaker 4: young centers now and Nate can talk to this too,

1101
00:49:57,551 --> 00:49:59,991
Speaker 4: but like they don't address that at the line. Like

1102
00:50:00,071 --> 00:50:02,712
Speaker 4: I played some guys Brad Richardson, and every time we

1103
00:50:02,752 --> 00:50:05,392
Speaker 4: got to the face off was like, what's our details here?

1104
00:50:05,551 --> 00:50:08,031
Speaker 5: What is everybody's job? And then we're ready to go.

1105
00:50:08,272 --> 00:50:10,471
Speaker 4: So I feel like that's something that's lost and can

1106
00:50:10,551 --> 00:50:12,431
Speaker 4: be taken a little bit from the football side, where

1107
00:50:12,471 --> 00:50:14,551
Speaker 4: there's always a set play, there's always something being run.

1108
00:50:15,192 --> 00:50:17,272
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with you, and we try to, you know,

1109
00:50:17,392 --> 00:50:19,551
Speaker 7: give the guys two or three options, and then you

1110
00:50:19,591 --> 00:50:21,471
Speaker 7: know they're they're gonna have to make some decisions on

1111
00:50:21,551 --> 00:50:24,151
Speaker 7: the fly, especially after an icing, right, you can't, you know,

1112
00:50:24,312 --> 00:50:26,271
Speaker 7: start yelling from the bench to the other end. Hey,

1113
00:50:26,392 --> 00:50:28,911
Speaker 7: so you hope that the center and the detailed control,

1114
00:50:28,951 --> 00:50:31,712
Speaker 7: they're usually the ones that drive that. The dno what

1115
00:50:31,832 --> 00:50:34,951
Speaker 7: pressure is coming at in the center, you know, wants

1116
00:50:34,951 --> 00:50:36,712
Speaker 7: to get his wingers in order. So agree with you

1117
00:50:36,752 --> 00:50:40,151
Speaker 7: one hundred percent. You know every play is valuable, even

1118
00:50:40,272 --> 00:50:42,792
Speaker 7: you know, playoffs, one one missed sort of assignment in

1119
00:50:42,832 --> 00:50:46,511
Speaker 7: the face off in these close games. So you know

1120
00:50:46,591 --> 00:50:48,272
Speaker 7: that that has to be drilled into the players. And

1121
00:50:48,312 --> 00:50:50,551
Speaker 7: that's where your assistant coaches really come in handy, Right,

1122
00:50:50,591 --> 00:50:52,991
Speaker 7: they should have a good sheet when guys come off

1123
00:50:53,071 --> 00:50:55,191
Speaker 7: the ice, what's working, seeing what the other team's doing,

1124
00:50:55,232 --> 00:50:58,272
Speaker 7: if they're adjusting, how they're for check in when you

1125
00:50:58,392 --> 00:51:01,192
Speaker 7: do get your wins or what what plays are running.

1126
00:51:01,232 --> 00:51:03,631
Speaker 7: And there's some teams out there that are like you know,

1127
00:51:04,392 --> 00:51:08,071
Speaker 7: aways thought Dallas was so frigging dangerous when Pavelski was

1128
00:51:08,111 --> 00:51:10,232
Speaker 7: there and playing with Ben Ands again, then they always

1129
00:51:10,312 --> 00:51:14,792
Speaker 7: had two They always had two centermen on every line,

1130
00:51:14,911 --> 00:51:17,311
Speaker 7: one each hand. So you always had to be ready

1131
00:51:17,352 --> 00:51:19,272
Speaker 7: in your di zel for something was coming at you.

1132
00:51:19,392 --> 00:51:22,191
Speaker 7: And you know, a couple of those guys aren't playing now,

1133
00:51:22,312 --> 00:51:24,551
Speaker 7: but I still think they're a strong face off team.

1134
00:51:24,551 --> 00:51:26,672
Speaker 7: But that was a team that always gave you fits

1135
00:51:27,991 --> 00:51:28,471
Speaker 7: last time.

1136
00:51:28,392 --> 00:51:30,591
Speaker 1: For me, Bruce, I love the way Butch casting the

1137
00:51:30,631 --> 00:51:32,872
Speaker 1: Sundance Kids. Sadly we no longer have Paul Newman and

1138
00:51:32,951 --> 00:51:34,712
Speaker 1: Robert Redford with us. Who was the first one to

1139
00:51:34,752 --> 00:51:36,111
Speaker 1: give you the nickname Butch.

1140
00:51:37,232 --> 00:51:39,712
Speaker 7: Well, it was a guy. His name was Gavin. I

1141
00:51:39,792 --> 00:51:42,271
Speaker 7: forget the last name right now. I was twelve years

1142
00:51:42,312 --> 00:51:45,272
Speaker 7: old and playing. He was the I think the manager

1143
00:51:45,312 --> 00:51:47,551
Speaker 7: of the hockey team. So he comes up to me

1144
00:51:47,591 --> 00:51:49,591
Speaker 7: one day he says, Butch Cat. I didn't know what

1145
00:51:49,672 --> 00:51:50,671
Speaker 7: the hell he was talking about.

1146
00:51:50,752 --> 00:51:51,232
Speaker 3: I was twelve.

1147
00:51:51,272 --> 00:51:55,552
Speaker 7: I never saw the movie. So my mom's mad because

1148
00:51:55,551 --> 00:51:57,631
Speaker 7: she doesn't like that name. I don't want them to

1149
00:51:57,672 --> 00:51:59,631
Speaker 7: call you, you know. And then someone else came along

1150
00:51:59,672 --> 00:52:01,711
Speaker 7: with hop along. It was I find out it's an

1151
00:52:01,752 --> 00:52:04,631
Speaker 7: old Notre Dame running back or something. So just a

1152
00:52:04,712 --> 00:52:06,071
Speaker 7: young guy. But I'll tell you what I did do.

1153
00:52:06,152 --> 00:52:09,392
Speaker 7: I eventually watched the movie The Ring Dropski fallows ye

1154
00:52:09,672 --> 00:52:11,591
Speaker 7: in my head, that's all I took from the movie

1155
00:52:11,591 --> 00:52:14,631
Speaker 7: there riding around their bikes. So I eventually got to

1156
00:52:14,752 --> 00:52:18,471
Speaker 7: the movie. I enjoyed it, and it's stuck. It's been

1157
00:52:18,511 --> 00:52:20,671
Speaker 7: a long time, so it's almost fifty years now, so

1158
00:52:20,951 --> 00:52:21,392
Speaker 7: what the hell.

1159
00:52:23,232 --> 00:52:25,991
Speaker 1: Embrace the nickname, embrace the world around your Bruce Castie's

1160
00:52:26,031 --> 00:52:27,551
Speaker 1: had a remarkable career in hockey.

1161
00:52:27,631 --> 00:52:30,031
Speaker 2: He will be behind the bench sooner rather than later.

1162
00:52:30,152 --> 00:52:31,031
Speaker 2: So enjoy the golf.

1163
00:52:31,071 --> 00:52:33,232
Speaker 1: Wlay you Cam, Bruce, enjoy those kids in high school,

1164
00:52:33,471 --> 00:52:34,352
Speaker 1: and enjoy the playoffs.

1165
00:52:34,392 --> 00:52:35,792
Speaker 2: Man, we'll talk to you soon, all right.

1166
00:52:35,832 --> 00:52:36,832
Speaker 7: Thanks, fella's appreciate it.

1167
00:52:43,832 --> 00:52:45,632
Speaker 2: We will get to pole position in just a second.

1168
00:52:45,672 --> 00:52:47,711
Speaker 1: And thanks once again to Bruce Caside for joining us

1169
00:52:47,792 --> 00:52:50,472
Speaker 1: Cinephile and sixty bait is on Amazon Prime.

1170
00:52:50,832 --> 00:52:51,752
Speaker 2: Terrific young anchor.

1171
00:52:51,911 --> 00:52:54,631
Speaker 1: A young actor rizamed right now in a six part

1172
00:52:54,752 --> 00:52:57,551
Speaker 1: series with a funny see what would happen if he's

1173
00:52:57,631 --> 00:53:00,352
Speaker 1: cast is James Bond? Continuing the theme here of South

1174
00:53:00,392 --> 00:53:02,991
Speaker 1: Asian representation. We already have Sunny Meta mentioned as might

1175
00:53:02,991 --> 00:53:04,911
Speaker 1: as well get Rizza met out there. My people are

1176
00:53:04,951 --> 00:53:08,511
Speaker 1: taken over Pakistani actor Muslim background when his family finds

1177
00:53:08,551 --> 00:53:09,872
Speaker 1: it he's being cast as James Bond.

1178
00:53:09,951 --> 00:53:10,951
Speaker 2: It's bedlam in London.

1179
00:53:11,551 --> 00:53:14,191
Speaker 5: They're brokering a they're brokering a peace steal too.

1180
00:53:15,911 --> 00:53:17,631
Speaker 1: Brown people are taking over right now when everybody can

1181
00:53:17,712 --> 00:53:20,631
Speaker 1: get done. You go to London, I always Joe. People

1182
00:53:20,631 --> 00:53:22,431
Speaker 1: say why don't you drink coffee? That's why I drink tea.

1183
00:53:22,471 --> 00:53:24,911
Speaker 1: They said what I said, listen, England used to colonize

1184
00:53:24,951 --> 00:53:25,672
Speaker 1: Indian Pakistan.

1185
00:53:25,752 --> 00:53:27,431
Speaker 2: So then once they left, he said, well, we'll keep

1186
00:53:27,471 --> 00:53:27,711
Speaker 2: the tea.

1187
00:53:27,752 --> 00:53:30,111
Speaker 1: Though we'd like to be our own indent, sovereign nation,

1188
00:53:30,192 --> 00:53:31,751
Speaker 1: we do like tea over coffee, so like a good

1189
00:53:31,832 --> 00:53:34,152
Speaker 1: chi bottom line is this. It's a really funny series.

1190
00:53:34,192 --> 00:53:36,711
Speaker 1: Six episodes, twenty two minutes each. It makes you long

1191
00:53:36,752 --> 00:53:40,111
Speaker 1: for the day's fellas. Twenty two episodes, Nice and Lean Quick,

1192
00:53:40,152 --> 00:53:42,232
Speaker 1: Get it in, Get it Out, a really funny conceit

1193
00:53:42,312 --> 00:53:43,431
Speaker 1: and his best friend on the show.

1194
00:53:43,672 --> 00:53:44,951
Speaker 2: I don't know him. He's a British comic.

1195
00:53:44,991 --> 00:53:48,471
Speaker 1: The guy is hysterical, absolutely scene stealing. So six episodes.

1196
00:53:48,511 --> 00:53:50,711
Speaker 1: It's called bait on Amazon Prime. What would happened if

1197
00:53:50,752 --> 00:53:53,631
Speaker 1: Riz Ahmed would be cast as James Bond? Yes, the

1198
00:53:53,752 --> 00:53:56,151
Speaker 1: racists have a field day with that. Also, of note,

1199
00:53:56,192 --> 00:53:58,671
Speaker 1: he's staring his Hamlet, So this guy's got range man,

1200
00:53:58,672 --> 00:54:00,511
Speaker 1: he can show up in a comedic series Amazon Prime

1201
00:54:00,551 --> 00:54:03,232
Speaker 1: and also play Hamlet. Big on Rizzamed look forward to

1202
00:54:03,312 --> 00:54:05,431
Speaker 1: checking out Bait on amas on Prime. And a quick

1203
00:54:05,511 --> 00:54:07,911
Speaker 1: thought on Michael, which is the new film opening on

1204
00:54:07,991 --> 00:54:12,232
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson getting Torch right now thirty five percent Rotten Tomatoes.

1205
00:54:12,591 --> 00:54:14,791
Speaker 1: And one of the challenges with this apparently his JD.

1206
00:54:15,111 --> 00:54:18,551
Speaker 1: They do not address at all the major issue of pedophilia.

1207
00:54:18,792 --> 00:54:20,792
Speaker 1: So you're gonna do a movie about this guy and

1208
00:54:20,872 --> 00:54:23,951
Speaker 1: not put it the fact career was absolutely waylaid by

1209
00:54:23,991 --> 00:54:26,151
Speaker 1: the fact finding never Land was a little more than

1210
00:54:26,192 --> 00:54:28,511
Speaker 1: about finding never Land. If you're following my drift from

1211
00:54:28,551 --> 00:54:30,792
Speaker 1: that would make a hard u turn to position, how

1212
00:54:30,832 --> 00:54:33,111
Speaker 1: do we bring this one back? The National Hockeley Player

1213
00:54:33,152 --> 00:54:35,832
Speaker 1: Association with was easing the results of their annual players polls.

1214
00:54:35,872 --> 00:54:37,312
Speaker 2: Take a moment to see what the players think.

1215
00:54:37,431 --> 00:54:40,111
Speaker 1: Alexander Barkoff Nate named the forward who will be the

1216
00:54:40,192 --> 00:54:43,431
Speaker 1: best Demon out of Mitch Marner and Sidney Crosby. Cal

1217
00:54:43,551 --> 00:54:46,392
Speaker 1: mccarr named demon who'd be the best forward? That's pretty

1218
00:54:46,392 --> 00:54:48,711
Speaker 1: straightforward one, Adequin Hughes on Eric Carlson. Both of those

1219
00:54:48,752 --> 00:54:51,511
Speaker 1: guys obviously can fly and Jordan Bennington. I love this one,

1220
00:54:51,752 --> 00:54:54,991
Speaker 1: best puckcailing skills, goalie. I was hoping for Joey Decord

1221
00:54:55,272 --> 00:54:57,511
Speaker 1: former gastire on NHL in scripted and ahead of also

1222
00:54:57,551 --> 00:54:59,992
Speaker 1: Egosi historic your thoughts on any of those three, Nate.

1223
00:55:01,392 --> 00:55:05,551
Speaker 3: I mean I could think of especially the D the

1224
00:55:05,672 --> 00:55:07,991
Speaker 3: D one like best forward. Like I even thought of

1225
00:55:08,232 --> 00:55:10,711
Speaker 3: like Lane Hudson would be a really good forward, right

1226
00:55:10,911 --> 00:55:14,991
Speaker 3: he'd be. Yeah, I mean I'm not mad about it.

1227
00:55:14,991 --> 00:55:17,711
Speaker 3: I mean, Jordan Bennington he is, and Jordan Baton when

1228
00:55:17,712 --> 00:55:20,712
Speaker 3: he plays well, he's like better with the puck. So

1229
00:55:21,232 --> 00:55:23,111
Speaker 3: I'm not mad about these. These are all pretty spot on.

1230
00:55:23,192 --> 00:55:24,631
Speaker 3: I mean, and He's are voted by the players, so

1231
00:55:25,232 --> 00:55:26,312
Speaker 3: they know more than anybody.

1232
00:55:27,272 --> 00:55:30,232
Speaker 4: They clearly don't because they put William Nielanders most fashionable.

1233
00:55:30,431 --> 00:55:31,472
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second.

1234
00:55:31,511 --> 00:55:33,872
Speaker 4: You fucking think I'm listening to any one of those

1235
00:55:33,911 --> 00:55:36,832
Speaker 4: guys in the NHL we played with him, Nate, true.

1236
00:55:37,272 --> 00:55:39,752
Speaker 5: I but some of them, dude jiu jitsu.

1237
00:55:39,872 --> 00:55:43,511
Speaker 3: I think it is so gay they they but like

1238
00:55:43,631 --> 00:55:46,472
Speaker 3: I think they just put down Willie because it's Willy

1239
00:55:46,551 --> 00:55:48,312
Speaker 3: and he's got his own Have.

1240
00:55:48,392 --> 00:55:53,111
Speaker 4: You seen Sergachev awful, He's got some he is very

1241
00:55:53,272 --> 00:55:54,192
Speaker 4: I think it's terrible.

1242
00:55:54,272 --> 00:55:56,071
Speaker 3: I think it's terrible. He's all over the map. I

1243
00:55:56,111 --> 00:55:57,312
Speaker 3: mean some days it's okay, but.

1244
00:55:57,352 --> 00:55:59,031
Speaker 5: Other days you're like what the Russians are.

1245
00:55:59,431 --> 00:56:02,632
Speaker 4: He wears like the the high tops, like the fucking

1246
00:56:02,832 --> 00:56:06,631
Speaker 4: almost like the heel boots, the Doc Martin's. He's a

1247
00:56:06,712 --> 00:56:08,991
Speaker 4: wild one. He has his own chickens and everything. Guy's

1248
00:56:09,031 --> 00:56:10,591
Speaker 4: an amazing We gotta go.

1249
00:56:10,991 --> 00:56:12,471
Speaker 3: We gotta have some kind of I was talking a

1250
00:56:12,511 --> 00:56:14,431
Speaker 3: boiler about this yesterday. We gotta have some kind of

1251
00:56:14,471 --> 00:56:18,592
Speaker 3: guideline on the like the no dress, it's over the top, yeah.

1252
00:56:18,672 --> 00:56:19,031
Speaker 7: Very much.

1253
00:56:19,272 --> 00:56:20,671
Speaker 2: I don't like we're in a tie. How about suit,

1254
00:56:20,752 --> 00:56:21,272
Speaker 2: no tie.

1255
00:56:21,672 --> 00:56:23,712
Speaker 5: Bring back suit or just have a guideline, just be

1256
00:56:24,031 --> 00:56:28,631
Speaker 5: like professional, Like you can't come in looking like yeah,

1257
00:56:28,872 --> 00:56:30,311
Speaker 5: some guys just coming like a T shirt.

1258
00:56:30,752 --> 00:56:32,511
Speaker 4: I mean, if it was me, if when I was

1259
00:56:32,591 --> 00:56:34,392
Speaker 4: in the league and they started trending that way, I

1260
00:56:34,551 --> 00:56:35,831
Speaker 4: just wear sweatpants to the game.

1261
00:56:36,471 --> 00:56:40,192
Speaker 5: But sweatpants just might as wear sweatpants. You look like

1262
00:56:40,272 --> 00:56:40,792
Speaker 5: you just you just.

1263
00:56:42,392 --> 00:56:44,671
Speaker 1: Bed Yeah correct, you just rolled one out in a

1264
00:56:44,752 --> 00:56:47,712
Speaker 1: saria rolling into the rink. Oh you did, jerk off jokes,

1265
00:56:48,352 --> 00:56:49,951
Speaker 1: more afraid d David Pasta.

1266
00:56:50,192 --> 00:56:51,951
Speaker 5: You've downgraded to jerk off jokes.

1267
00:56:52,071 --> 00:56:55,471
Speaker 2: David Pasha Pasta the best nickname. No mention of Big Dick,

1268
00:56:55,591 --> 00:56:56,192
Speaker 2: Dan Muse.

1269
00:56:56,872 --> 00:56:58,752
Speaker 1: Clayton Keller voted best Golfer.

1270
00:56:59,152 --> 00:56:59,832
Speaker 2: Added g T.

1271
00:56:59,951 --> 00:57:03,031
Speaker 1: Miaylor and Sam Lafferty and Sydney Crosby vote a player

1272
00:57:03,031 --> 00:57:05,832
Speaker 1: who makes the best coach out of Nick Felino and

1273
00:57:06,272 --> 00:57:09,192
Speaker 1: David Parron as well. Mckainnon voted player the best training regimen.

1274
00:57:09,431 --> 00:57:12,552
Speaker 1: I added McDavid and La Tang and Abbs leaves best rivalry.

1275
00:57:13,752 --> 00:57:16,592
Speaker 5: Habbs leaves best this well, yeah, I guess all the time.

1276
00:57:16,672 --> 00:57:19,792
Speaker 1: Abs leaves Flyers Penguins, Great Bruins Penguins.

1277
00:57:20,712 --> 00:57:22,711
Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of good rivalries right now

1278
00:57:22,792 --> 00:57:27,592
Speaker 4: in the NHL. Tampa Tampa Montreal might be leaves, but you.

1279
00:57:27,592 --> 00:57:29,751
Speaker 2: Agree on Keller voted best golfer. You're a golf guy.

1280
00:57:29,832 --> 00:57:32,072
Speaker 3: You know this. He's I played with him, He's he's

1281
00:57:32,472 --> 00:57:35,032
Speaker 3: on plus plus handicap, right, Yeah.

1282
00:57:34,912 --> 00:57:36,232
Speaker 5: He's he's incredible.

1283
00:57:36,631 --> 00:57:39,112
Speaker 4: Yeah, he plays like he plays against he plays against

1284
00:57:39,152 --> 00:57:42,992
Speaker 4: like John Rahm and those guys, has like obviously gets strokes,

1285
00:57:43,032 --> 00:57:44,631
Speaker 4: but like has good matches.

1286
00:57:44,312 --> 00:57:46,472
Speaker 5: With him wows.

1287
00:57:47,952 --> 00:57:50,552
Speaker 1: Caesars Arena, by the way, board the best visitors dressing

1288
00:57:50,631 --> 00:57:54,992
Speaker 1: room had a climate Little Caesars, Yeah, very good, Little

1289
00:57:55,592 --> 00:57:57,871
Speaker 1: I had a Climate Pledge arena and Delta Center.

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Speaker 4: I was not in Climate Pledge or Delta Center. So

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Speaker 4: thanks for rubbing that in Na con confirmed.

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Speaker 7: I was hurt.

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Speaker 3: I was hurt the year that the team went to Seattle,

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Speaker 3: So I didn't I haven't.

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Speaker 4: Seen talking about jerk Off stories now here rubbing salt

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Speaker 4: in the woodsky too?

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Speaker 5: How about this not doing his research?

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Speaker 1: Houston borde of the city they'd like to see an

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Speaker 1: NHL expansion team, bull it should be Quebec.

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Speaker 2: City in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Well, Quebec I think was two though no Quebec was two.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta was third, but number one Houston, Okay.

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Speaker 5: With that j D. Yeah, I mean I'd love Quebec.

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00:58:33,192 --> 00:58:35,711
Speaker 4: But you know, I was having a conversation with Steve

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00:58:35,792 --> 00:58:38,232
Speaker 4: Conroy and my dad was in town actually for his

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00:58:38,312 --> 00:58:41,512
Speaker 4: birthday last week. Toe We brought him to the studio

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Speaker 4: birthday and they just don't happy birthday, pops. And they

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Speaker 4: just don't have the corporate sponsorships enough.

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Speaker 2: Billionaire, did a billionaire?

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Speaker 5: Well, they need a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of corporate sponsorships, and there's just not enough industry there,

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Speaker 4: I think to support it.

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Speaker 5: I think Houston would be great.

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Speaker 4: Great rivalry with Dallas helps, with Colorado helps in the central.

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Speaker 5: It's easy, except ability to get up north to play.

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Speaker 5: You know, Edmonton and Winnipeg. Aren't you tired of Atlanta?

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Speaker 2: Would you give Atlanta one more chance of now? Been there,

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Speaker 2: done that?

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Speaker 5: I was just there. It's the worst traffic on the

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Speaker 5: planet earth.

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Speaker 2: It is horrific traffic.

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Speaker 5: Slip my and I can't say that.

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Speaker 2: One more for both to get No, we don't have suicide.

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Speaker 1: Montreal voted Montreal voted best ice night out of Edmonton

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Speaker 1: and Winnipeg.

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Speaker 2: I thought Edmonton best ice. People love the ice there.

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Speaker 5: I love that.

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Speaker 3: I thought Winnipeg would be number one, but I guess

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's always the Canadian cities have the best ice.

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Speaker 5: I never loved the Montreal ice.

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00:59:38,392 --> 00:59:40,192
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was shocked at that one too. I was

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00:59:40,232 --> 00:59:42,952
Speaker 3: usually Edmonton and Winnipeg was the best, and mind they

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00:59:42,992 --> 00:59:45,872
Speaker 3: put Montreal, so maybe maybe they've stepped their game up

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Speaker 3: in the ice conditions.

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Speaker 5: I love Florida BB and Te Center.

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Speaker 2: As JD mentioned earlier when he voted most fashionable.

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Speaker 1: I had a passak and Austin Matthews, So Austin one

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00:59:56,312 --> 00:59:57,791
Speaker 1: of your guys that was at least in the top three.

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00:59:58,392 --> 01:00:00,432
Speaker 1: Some other notes to clean it up Macklin cell Brandy

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Speaker 1: being Joe Thornton, Sharks franchise point mark one hundred and fifteen.

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01:00:03,352 --> 01:00:04,912
Speaker 2: J D still only nine teen years of.

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Speaker 5: Age, and n happened like six weeks ago.

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01:00:07,112 --> 01:00:09,392
Speaker 1: Well but JD tal just want to put these in

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Speaker 1: here because we haven't wrapped it up since the last

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Speaker 1: we were on. So okay, McDavid gets a sixth art

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01:00:14,512 --> 01:00:17,751
Speaker 1: Ross Trophy, that's the second most mind Gretzky ties Mario

1347
01:00:17,872 --> 01:00:20,512
Speaker 1: and Gordi Howe, and McKinnon wins the Rocket Rashard Trophy

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01:00:20,592 --> 01:00:23,992
Speaker 1: fifty three goals, but also ninety seven even strength points

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01:00:24,032 --> 01:00:26,432
Speaker 1: in eighty games. That's the highest total for a season

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01:00:26,752 --> 01:00:29,112
Speaker 1: since Gretzky had one of the three even strength points

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01:00:29,152 --> 01:00:32,632
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety. So all those three McLean Celebrady McDavid,

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01:00:32,712 --> 01:00:35,112
Speaker 1: sixth art Ross, McKinnon Rocket Reshard.

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01:00:35,272 --> 01:00:37,032
Speaker 2: Which one stands out to you, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, Celebrini, especially when you get a nod from Joe Thornton,

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01:00:41,072 --> 01:00:42,792
Speaker 4: which he's supposed to be his landlord and he's just

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01:00:42,912 --> 01:00:46,232
Speaker 4: out no shirt on somewhere on a beach. Should you

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Speaker 4: be making him dinner, pregame or postgame?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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01:00:50,312 --> 01:00:53,032
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Macklin, what he did this season, second year,

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Speaker 4: it's absolutely incredible. He's he's gonna win an art Ross

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01:00:57,672 --> 01:01:01,352
Speaker 4: one of these years. I still think that we're putting

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01:01:01,392 --> 01:01:03,592
Speaker 4: too much emphasis on making the playoffs for like a

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01:01:03,672 --> 01:01:07,552
Speaker 4: heart trophy, when the actual definition of it is most

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01:01:07,631 --> 01:01:11,432
Speaker 4: valuable to your team. I know that we put a big,

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01:01:11,631 --> 01:01:15,472
Speaker 4: big price tag on making the playoffs. So but yeah,

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01:01:15,512 --> 01:01:20,671
Speaker 4: I thought he's should have some heart votes. Incredible, incredible kid,

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01:01:20,912 --> 01:01:23,272
Speaker 4: incredible person. So yeah, celebrating Nate for you.

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Speaker 3: I'm with JD on this one. It's I mean, just

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01:01:27,312 --> 01:01:29,192
Speaker 3: being nineteen years old and doing what he did. I

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01:01:29,232 --> 01:01:31,552
Speaker 3: mean not just the NHL, but I mean, I know

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01:01:31,712 --> 01:01:35,151
Speaker 3: the Olympics doesn't count, but like, I mean, everything he

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01:01:35,272 --> 01:01:37,392
Speaker 3: did for San Jose. And I agree with JD too.

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01:01:37,432 --> 01:01:39,912
Speaker 3: I think that you know you have that many points

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01:01:39,952 --> 01:01:42,151
Speaker 3: that you're nineteen, and there's that big of a gap

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01:01:42,952 --> 01:01:44,832
Speaker 3: of points on your team where it was like fifty

1376
01:01:44,912 --> 01:01:48,312
Speaker 3: points the next closest guy. I mean, that's your MVP

1377
01:01:48,472 --> 01:01:50,032
Speaker 3: and that's that's the most impressive for me.

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01:01:51,072 --> 01:01:54,592
Speaker 5: That's a nice gap. That is, as we like to say,

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01:01:54,912 --> 01:01:56,912
Speaker 5: I got a nice gap and a couple.

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01:01:56,832 --> 01:01:57,671
Speaker 2: More to closings off.

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01:01:57,912 --> 01:02:00,592
Speaker 1: Flowers is the Dan o'chara Boston legend. Gotta be the

1382
01:02:00,631 --> 01:02:03,232
Speaker 1: most fit retired athlete of the planet. On Monday, the

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01:02:03,312 --> 01:02:06,192
Speaker 1: former Bruins captain the starting pistol one hundred and thirtieth

1384
01:02:06,232 --> 01:02:09,592
Speaker 1: Boston Marathon, then ran the race for the third straight year.

1385
01:02:10,032 --> 01:02:12,192
Speaker 1: Nate big Z' is a better shape than half the league.

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01:02:12,712 --> 01:02:15,712
Speaker 3: Yes he is. He's a better shape than each specimen.

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01:02:15,832 --> 01:02:18,311
Speaker 3: He's an absolute specimen. I got to witness it when

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01:02:19,032 --> 01:02:20,872
Speaker 3: I was with the Bruins and training camp and he

1389
01:02:20,992 --> 01:02:23,232
Speaker 3: came in as a free agent's first year, and this

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01:02:23,392 --> 01:02:27,072
Speaker 3: guy ripped off thirty three pull ups and and didn't

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01:02:27,072 --> 01:02:29,872
Speaker 3: even flinch. And I'm not talking pull ups where you're

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01:02:30,112 --> 01:02:32,751
Speaker 3: you know, barely, you know, kind of all the way

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01:02:32,872 --> 01:02:34,512
Speaker 3: like he was going all the way down. And the

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01:02:34,552 --> 01:02:37,112
Speaker 3: strength coach at the time he would count guys pull

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01:02:37,152 --> 01:02:41,751
Speaker 3: ups and he'd be like one, one, one, because you're

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01:02:41,792 --> 01:02:44,671
Speaker 3: not going all the way down. Big Z ripped off

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01:02:44,752 --> 01:02:48,392
Speaker 3: thirty three and the whole camp was watching. Everyone was

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01:02:48,872 --> 01:02:50,952
Speaker 3: all around. Watching this guy ripping off thirty three pull

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01:02:50,992 --> 01:02:53,912
Speaker 3: ups was insane. So uh yes, he is the best

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01:02:53,952 --> 01:02:55,311
Speaker 3: conditioned guy in the world.

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01:02:57,192 --> 01:02:59,392
Speaker 5: Jesus, Yeah, this is this is the picture of them.

1402
01:02:59,392 --> 01:03:05,032
Speaker 5: Look at that. Yeah, and uh it's not.

1403
01:03:05,072 --> 01:03:05,711
Speaker 2: Skipping like day.

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01:03:05,752 --> 01:03:06,151
Speaker 5: Let me tell you that.

1405
01:03:06,272 --> 01:03:07,312
Speaker 2: Right now he's ready to rock.

1406
01:03:08,352 --> 01:03:11,231
Speaker 3: I know he's probably still lifting and doing everything else too.

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01:03:11,272 --> 01:03:12,712
Speaker 5: He's got Cole Bruins on it.

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01:03:13,552 --> 01:03:16,472
Speaker 3: No Bruins, I mean we had we had the same

1409
01:03:16,512 --> 01:03:19,352
Speaker 3: agent too, Matt Cater and uh just this guy. You

1410
01:03:19,432 --> 01:03:21,112
Speaker 3: have Mat Cater Mat Cater cater.

1411
01:03:21,032 --> 01:03:24,151
Speaker 5: Club, cater Club, cater Club.

1412
01:03:24,672 --> 01:03:26,952
Speaker 1: All right, Cater, Well, one last time we have to

1413
01:03:26,992 --> 01:03:27,392
Speaker 1: shut out.

1414
01:03:27,672 --> 01:03:29,432
Speaker 2: Why at Russell flowers to him?

1415
01:03:29,512 --> 01:03:31,151
Speaker 1: Our friend came on a few weeks ago mentioned he

1416
01:03:31,192 --> 01:03:33,592
Speaker 1: had bet earlier this season there was no way the

1417
01:03:33,631 --> 01:03:35,752
Speaker 1: Sabers would make the playoffs. We know what happened for

1418
01:03:35,832 --> 01:03:38,552
Speaker 1: that judors were the actor Chugg Date Lake our beverage

1419
01:03:38,631 --> 01:03:41,232
Speaker 1: of a Saber cup and sprinted into Lake Erie.

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01:03:41,992 --> 01:03:44,272
Speaker 2: Uh nay, this is your boy, Why Russell loves you?

1421
01:03:44,432 --> 01:03:46,872
Speaker 3: This is great, This was awesome. The best though, was

1422
01:03:46,992 --> 01:03:48,671
Speaker 3: the post I know you guys saw it from Kurt

1423
01:03:48,752 --> 01:03:51,912
Speaker 3: Russell and and talking and kind of throwing him under

1424
01:03:51,952 --> 01:03:53,671
Speaker 3: the bus and tell them, hey, you better get ready

1425
01:03:53,712 --> 01:03:56,912
Speaker 3: for this cold, cold water coming. Yeah, it was awesome,

1426
01:03:56,952 --> 01:03:59,912
Speaker 3: and why uh that was that was fun having him on.

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01:04:01,472 --> 01:04:03,232
Speaker 3: Guy doesn't like to talk at all, so it was

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01:04:03,392 --> 01:04:05,512
Speaker 3: it was he was a great guy. Well what would

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01:04:05,552 --> 01:04:05,872
Speaker 3: you take?

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01:04:05,952 --> 01:04:09,352
Speaker 5: Would you take? Would you take freezing waters of Lake Erie?

1431
01:04:10,392 --> 01:04:12,272
Speaker 5: Or asking why Russell question.

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01:04:14,752 --> 01:04:17,631
Speaker 2: I'll take the freezing water. I'll just go ahead and watch.

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01:04:17,872 --> 01:04:20,151
Speaker 5: I'm fucking in the head first in that freezing water.

1434
01:04:20,192 --> 01:04:23,512
Speaker 3: I tell you that much. My buddy from home actually

1435
01:04:23,631 --> 01:04:25,472
Speaker 3: texts me after he's listening to the pot and he goes,

1436
01:04:25,512 --> 01:04:28,792
Speaker 3: holy fake quiet, like that's a lot. I love it.

1437
01:04:28,912 --> 01:04:31,152
Speaker 4: He went on the empty he went on the empty

1438
01:04:31,232 --> 01:04:34,032
Speaker 4: netters and uh, I texted the guys said i'd you

1439
01:04:34,152 --> 01:04:34,432
Speaker 4: like him?

1440
01:04:34,432 --> 01:04:36,472
Speaker 5: And again, why was amazing?

1441
01:04:36,712 --> 01:04:38,912
Speaker 4: Such a good dude, so thoughtful, the way he spoke

1442
01:04:39,032 --> 01:04:41,552
Speaker 4: and yeah, the way he you know, talked about his

1443
01:04:41,672 --> 01:04:45,672
Speaker 4: career and also talked about everything and was so indire

1444
01:04:45,752 --> 01:04:50,072
Speaker 4: party get cheated, but he no, he he's getting in

1445
01:04:50,152 --> 01:04:53,592
Speaker 4: a word, He's getting in all the words he's expecting.

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01:04:53,672 --> 01:04:55,671
Speaker 5: And I asked empty and editors guys like, how was it.

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01:04:55,752 --> 01:04:58,912
Speaker 4: They're like Oh, he's awesome, incredible, and I was like, uh,

1448
01:04:59,392 --> 01:05:01,432
Speaker 4: I was like, we asked him two questions and we're

1449
01:05:01,512 --> 01:05:04,711
Speaker 4: twenty two minutes into the interview and they were like, yeah,

1450
01:05:04,752 --> 01:05:09,112
Speaker 4: They're like, he he likes to he likes he likes

1451
01:05:09,152 --> 01:05:12,952
Speaker 4: to get his he likes to cover all the basest job.

1452
01:05:12,992 --> 01:05:14,912
Speaker 2: But I'm a fan of his noble work.

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01:05:14,952 --> 01:05:18,311
Speaker 1: By tal that interview ran fifty seven minutes and Edward

1454
01:05:18,352 --> 01:05:22,151
Speaker 1: scissorhands over here chopped it down the thirty seven snip snap,

1455
01:05:22,232 --> 01:05:24,272
Speaker 1: we could have a two part episode instead tells you

1456
01:05:24,552 --> 01:05:25,432
Speaker 1: twenty minutes.

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01:05:25,152 --> 01:05:26,392
Speaker 3: With no problems too.

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01:05:26,472 --> 01:05:28,232
Speaker 5: It's easy, easy, we should have.

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01:05:29,392 --> 01:05:31,631
Speaker 1: Well, no two part interview and we're not going twice

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01:05:31,631 --> 01:05:33,631
Speaker 1: a week, but we continue to HL Unscripted. We'll see

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01:05:33,631 --> 01:05:36,871
Speaker 1: you next week as the playoffs will develop much much further.

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Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart Podcasts.

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