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Speaker 2: You're the Meddler. From Turncoat Tony to the Meddler.

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Speaker 1: You know what was the best part of that Turncoat

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Speaker 3: No stop, it was unreal.

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Speaker 2: And you took a beating for that.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't change one thing I did.

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Speaker 1: No, no, because you probably had an idea where you

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Speaker 4: We haven't figured out what we're gonna do next season.

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Speaker 3: No, we're kicking you off? Is I think consistent? How

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Speaker 5: So we did it, have done it since ten ten

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Speaker 4: It's ten years, so ten years, and I think consistently

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Speaker 4: But Mike, I've been consistent that I will defend this organization,

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Speaker 3: Consistent is I'm gonna be for the organization. Well, the

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Speaker 1: Look, I can actually say over the years when I

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Speaker 5: Well now he can't even like you can crush the

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Speaker 4: You're right, right, because you know I was thinking about this,

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Speaker 2: Know what Everything you just rattled out of there was team.

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 4: Tell us about the ecosystem? Hold on, slow down there, everyone,

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Speaker 4: take a deep breath. Pete, you've known me as long

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Speaker 6: the sake of clarification, Yes, down the road, if you

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Speaker 3: Rip me? You blame me?

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Speaker 3: But you do it in a way, and you try.

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Speaker 4: You go through a process and you let and you

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Speaker 2: He moved on up, didn't he?

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Speaker 3: He certainly did, re did moving on up?

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Speaker 1: But you know what, when you really think about it,

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Speaker 1: Not that complicated. Look at my top one hundred. I

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Speaker 8: Would be with an organization for nine years and move up.

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Speaker 5: Shadrick Tony Wassei Pete Prisco from Radio Row in Indianapolis

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Speaker 5: We think we don't don't even ask any you're out, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: make sure the investment he has made in this organization

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Speaker 4: pays off with a lot of wins.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not just saying that this because you're sitting here,

446
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Speaker 1: but I think the best thing he did, and I

447
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Speaker 1: said this a lot, that he needed a buffer and

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to call you the buffer because but

449
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Speaker 1: he needed somebody. And I said that on the last show,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta like that's when you became turnco tone.

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 1: But I said all that show, he needs somebody to

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Speaker 1: help him because he didn't have that. He didn't have

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Speaker 1: anybody between him and the general manner that he could

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Speaker 1: take and Mark Lamping does. I'm not taking away from

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Speaker 1: Mark Lamping. I think Mark Lamping does a hell of

457
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Speaker 1: a job, but it's the business side. He needed a

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Speaker 1: football Mark Lamping, and he went and got one and

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Speaker 1: he has one now. And I think that's the smartest

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Speaker 1: thing that Shod Cohn has done.

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Speaker 2: You do it, and it's you, it's even better.

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Speaker 1: But if it was somebody he needed to do that,

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Speaker 1: and I think that helps the organization.

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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you saying that.

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Speaker 4: And the job that we have is to make sure

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Speaker 4: that we focus on what's most important.

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Speaker 3: That's winning football games.

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Speaker 4: And that is and I've told everybody you know, we're

469
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Speaker 4: gonna make this. I'm gonna make every decision and make

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Speaker 4: sure and William's the same way, James the same way.

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Speaker 3: Really through two lenses.

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Speaker 4: One is it good for the brand, the Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 4: and the con family. That's one, and two does it

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Speaker 4: help us win football games? If it doesn't do those

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Speaker 4: two things, we should not be doing it. If it's

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Speaker 4: not gonna do those things, like and if it goes

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Speaker 4: against the of those things, we should be running the

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Speaker 4: other way. And so it's about focusing on and I

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Speaker 4: know this is probably a little cliche and people get

480
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Speaker 4: on me for it, but it's something I believe and

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Speaker 4: keep the main thing the main thing, and that's what

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Speaker 4: happens on the grass because you know this, at the

483
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Speaker 4: end of the day, that's all. That's what we're all

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Speaker 4: judged by, wins and losses. That's all that matters. And

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Speaker 4: that's what I'm excited about. Because you got two you

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Speaker 4: got three guys, two others including me, that feel the

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Speaker 4: same way about that, and that's what I'm excited. That's

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Speaker 4: why it's fun to get up every morning go to work.

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Speaker 4: I mean, everyone's like, man, you're spending a lot of hours.

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Speaker 4: You're sure you want to do this. I mean it

491
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Speaker 4: was funny. A couple of guys that I've known for

492
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Speaker 4: a long time says, what are you doing? I mean,

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to tell my mom was already working.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like I was sitting at home

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Speaker 4: all bait.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I think you were traveling vacations.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been working in business ever since I retired,

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Speaker 4: and I love business, but this is the first time

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Speaker 4: since I got done playing that when I wake up,

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Speaker 4: I am excited to go to work, like I cannot

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Speaker 4: wait to get there, and the day goes by, and

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Speaker 4: by the end of it's you know, it's after dinner time.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I guess I got to the home

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Speaker 3: and I can't wait till the next day.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's I actually very grateful to shod forgive

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Speaker 4: me this opportunity because it's a dream job for me.

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Speaker 3: Let's come back in a moment.

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Speaker 5: One more segment to go, one more in the history

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Speaker 5: of this program.

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Speaker 3: Our poor fans, I mean on Twitter, every one's like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they get mad. They're getting mad at me. You're

512
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: blaming me. They should you.

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Speaker 3: No, they should blame you because you call me Turncoke.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm leaving.

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Speaker 5: He read them Jaguars YouTube This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour and attention music fans.

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Speaker 5: The twenty twenty five season of Daily's Place is underway.

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Speaker 5: Upcoming show's March fifteenth, coarye for Band Made tenth, Teddy

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Speaker 5: Swims Sticks with Kevin Cronin and Don Felder, June's second

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Speaker 5: Old Dominion June sixth, Great Schedule, the rest of the

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Speaker 5: summer Dailyesplace dot Com for tickets and show info, or

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Speaker 5: we can just call Tony and get.

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Speaker 3: That couch we never got.

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Speaker 2: Well he has. He has a real access to tickets, now,

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Speaker 2: don't you.

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Speaker 3: I might remember you guys on man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got, he's got you probably have a.

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Speaker 7: Sweet now postgame lounge. And I believe you're gonna go

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Speaker 7: a lot of concerts. I bet in the summer when

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Speaker 7: you take time off in the summer. Yeah, you'll be

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Speaker 7: going to a lot of concerts. You know why christ

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Speaker 7: free Now that's true.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna you know what anything.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say one word right now.

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Speaker 1: You know what the players do? You know, it's like

536
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Speaker 1: the old every player always wants something. You know, it's

537
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Speaker 1: like give me this, give me that, give me that.

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Speaker 1: The more you have, the more free stuff you wanted.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got free stuff. You're gonna get free tickets,

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Speaker 1: freak free sweets, free this.

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Speaker 2: That means we got them.

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Speaker 5: Oh I know is that you laughed out loud when

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Speaker 5: you looked at this credential, right.

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Speaker 1: Because it's just so funny to say, Tony Vaselli, Jacksonville Jaguars. Right,

545
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Speaker 1: we should auction this off afterwards, you know, for charity

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Speaker 1: or something.

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Speaker 2: Come on, because you might not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing.

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Speaker 4: I probably get I probably get fined by the NFL

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Speaker 4: and giving away your credential. You get in trouble for that.

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Speaker 4: The events over they will well, yeah you're not allowed

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Speaker 4: to technically that. They don't any pictures with it or

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Speaker 4: anything like that.

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Speaker 7: They get what you get warned by. But if you

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Speaker 7: play on the super Bowl, you've never you don't know that.

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Speaker 3: Well I knew that you shouldn't show it. I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever been to the super Bowl? Like, and

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Speaker 4: you take a picture with your potential on, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: hear about it. Trouble Basically, they can take it and

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Speaker 4: copy it and do whatever they By.

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Speaker 2: The way, media members got in a fight.

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Speaker 4: I heard that.

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Speaker 2: So ready, ready, let's go. Wait, you're not on the

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Speaker 2: media anymore.

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Speaker 4: I'm out finally, I'm finally out of state.

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Speaker 2: So now it took you so long to say you

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Speaker 2: were a member of that, I.

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Speaker 3: Only embraced it for a few years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it took you a while.

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Speaker 1: It took but you know, I've worked with guys that

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Speaker 1: still don't ever say, Like Brady Quinn never said he

573
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Speaker 1: was a member.

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Speaker 3: Of he is so deep in the media.

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Speaker 2: Of course he is.

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Speaker 4: He's more media than I ever was.

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Speaker 2: And then and then Tony.

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Speaker 1: You get new guys coming in and they all say,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a member of the media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you are. Remember the media. But how long did

581
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Speaker 2: it take to It took.

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Speaker 3: Me a while? But let me just say five years.

583
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Speaker 4: A PSA to all ex athletes who are in the media.

584
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Speaker 4: If you're on camera and doing shows, you're in the media.

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Speaker 2: You're a member of the media.

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Speaker 3: Remember, And you know what. Some of the guys are

587
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Speaker 3: all right in the media. Yeah, none, all of them.

588
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Speaker 2: No, there's a lot of good guys.

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Speaker 3: Did you enjoy your time in the media, You know what?

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Speaker 4: I loved it. It was a it was actually a

591
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Speaker 4: love hate but the hate part had nothing to do

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Speaker 4: with the media.

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Speaker 3: But if it was, I loved it because I got

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Speaker 3: to stay with.

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Speaker 4: Part of the game I love and be a part

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Speaker 4: of it and in great relationships with guys that, like

597
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Speaker 4: Pete I've known for thirty years, but meet new guys.

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Speaker 4: I hated it because it scratched the itch, but it

599
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Speaker 4: almost created more of an itch to get closer to it,

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Speaker 4: because like I was close, but because Win lou it

601
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Speaker 4: didn't matter as much, especially like doing Westwood one games.

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Speaker 4: It was great, but at the end of it, I

603
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Speaker 4: was like, Okay, go home, but I miss I'm really

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Speaker 4: looking forward.

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Speaker 2: To even doing the Jaguar games. You cared, but it's

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Speaker 2: not now.

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Speaker 4: It's now like, yeah, before I cared, I cared, but

608
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Speaker 4: I felt like I didn't have a lot of impact.

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Speaker 4: Right now I feel like, all right, like something's on

610
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Speaker 4: the line. I like, like you're vested, even more vested.

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Speaker 4: I was always vested because I love the place and care,

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Speaker 4: but now it's even more invested.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the team plays a game and loses, what

614
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Speaker 1: are you like, now, is it gonna be like when

615
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Speaker 1: you lost when you played?

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Speaker 3: My wife is.

617
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Speaker 4: Wondering that because we were talking the other day and

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Speaker 4: actually were talking to James and his wife and uh,

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Speaker 4: and she was talking about what a pain in the

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Speaker 4: you know what I was after we lost, and I

621
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Speaker 4: was really I was really bad after we lost, and

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Speaker 4: even after I we won, I was happy we won,

623
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Speaker 4: but if I didn't feel like I played well, I

624
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 4: still wasn't the most pleasant person to be around and pure,

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Speaker 4: and so I was thinking, I'm like, she's like I wonder.

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Speaker 2: Reason be like, no, oh god, you poor wife.

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Speaker 3: I know it's not.

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Speaker 7: But you were a young guy back then. You're different

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Speaker 7: now you're sure. Now she knows you're the old man of.

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Speaker 2: The team, right. That is the most amazing thing ever.

631
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Speaker 4: Pete and I were talking about this off air. I'm

632
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Speaker 4: the oldest, I am not the most mature. That's changed Gladstone,

633
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Speaker 4: he's the youngest.

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Speaker 1: It's like with all the guys I work with, I'm

635
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Speaker 1: the oldest, but I'm certainly not the most.

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Speaker 3: Mature, right.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm like, it's uh, listen, this is a

638
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: great opportunity. I mean, I it is such a great

639
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Speaker 4: opportunity to be in the front office to really in

640
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Speaker 4: what SEOT has done over the last month.

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Speaker 3: Call it is.

642
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: We have a chance to really reset this and restart

643
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Speaker 4: it the right way, to build the right culture, to

644
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Speaker 4: create the identity, the standard of what it means to

645
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Speaker 4: be a Jaguar. It's something we talk about a lot,

646
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Speaker 4: Liam James and I and our coaching staff, and it's

647
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Speaker 4: gonna be It's for us. It's sitting right there on

648
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Speaker 4: the tea for us. It's up to us to go

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Speaker 4: make it happen.

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Speaker 5: So I mean another title we could call him is

651
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 5: like the minister of culture if we were in a

652
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Speaker 5: communist country. He kind of it feels like that's the role.

653
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Speaker 4: So what you no, The guy, the guy who's gonna

654
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Speaker 4: set the cultures is Liam Okay, and he's like, and

655
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Speaker 4: I'm a big believer. It's probably because when I played,

656
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 4: there was only one voice in the building.

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Speaker 3: That was Tom Conflin, and.

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Speaker 4: So I've always believed that regardless of the structure, you're

659
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Speaker 4: never gonna get Having the right structure is important, but

660
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Speaker 4: having the right people is more important. But once you

661
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Speaker 4: get the right people, everyone has to understand that it's

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Speaker 4: the head coach in the game of football. That head

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Speaker 4: coach has to be the one whose leads sets the culture,

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Speaker 4: is the voice of the building because he's with our

665
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Speaker 4: players day in and day out. He's the one leading them.

666
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Speaker 4: It's his staff. And again I go back to what

667
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 4: happens on the field is what matters. All the preparation,

668
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Speaker 4: getting ready for the season, practice, and ultimately on Sundays

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Speaker 4: or Thursday nights or Monday nights or whatever.

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Speaker 2: The game Sundays early on.

671
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Speaker 3: That's fine. You got to earn that. I gotta earn it.

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Speaker 3: Fine with that.

673
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Speaker 4: But that's all that matters, and that is going.

674
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Speaker 3: To be our focus.

675
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Speaker 2: And by the way, I meant to ask you this

676
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Speaker 2: is Tom reached out.

677
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Speaker 4: To you said you talked. Oh yeah, Tom and I've talked.

678
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Speaker 4: We've we've talked briefly. We have a lot of text messages.

679
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Speaker 2: I said, hey, what advice know?

680
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Speaker 3: The best was, I.

681
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Speaker 4: Said, Hey, I'm gonna let's find some time and get breakfast.

682
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: He says, you're gonna have no time anytime soon. He's

683
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Speaker 4: right right, And I haven't had one second to have

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Speaker 4: breakfast with him. So we'll have breakfast here in the

685
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Speaker 4: next few weeks though.

686
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Speaker 2: What he can just congrat.

687
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was great and we talked.

688
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Speaker 2: It's got to be like almost like a proud pop with.

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Speaker 4: You, I would hope. So you know, I love Tom Coughlin.

690
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Speaker 4: He means the world to me. He's done a lot

691
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Speaker 4: for me. He's been He's taught me a lot about

692
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Speaker 4: how to build a team, leadership and everything else. And

693
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: just there's a right way to do things, is the

694
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: right way to play the game. And I give Tom

695
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Speaker 4: confident on credit. I give all the coaches I played

696
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Speaker 4: for Sam Pigano. The way we played high school football.

697
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Speaker 4: Fair of you and the way he led, you know,

698
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Speaker 4: John Robinson at USC, Tom Coughlin. I mean, I've had

699
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Speaker 4: a lot of really good examples of how the game

700
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Speaker 4: of football is supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you say about that about Coughlin,

702
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Speaker 1: because look, he impacted my career in a big way.

703
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question about that. I mean, he was

704
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Speaker 2: my I was the yang. He was the yang. And

705
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Speaker 2: my twenty fifth anniversary at CBS is coming up in the.

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Speaker 3: That is quiet.

707
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Speaker 2: I remember the day I left.

708
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Speaker 1: I went to him and I said, hey, nothing but respect,

709
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Speaker 1: and he said nothing but respect, And that's the way

710
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Speaker 1: we end. And we saw each other after that, and

711
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Speaker 1: I was on some of his playoff runs. But the

712
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Speaker 1: fact that he impacted my career like he impacted your

713
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Speaker 1: career is pretty incredible. Yet, because look, he gave me

714
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Speaker 1: a hard edge. He helped me gain the edge that

715
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Speaker 1: I had throughout this process, and I that hasn't gone

716
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Speaker 1: away and nor will it ever go away. So like

717
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Speaker 1: when I pick on you when you kick your new job,

718
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Speaker 1: don't take it personally, because he never did.

719
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Speaker 3: Do you think I didn't really think it? Take it personally?

720
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Speaker 2: You did?

721
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Speaker 1: You'd get mad a little bit, get mad, but it

722
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: was personal. Never and he never did that either. You

723
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: never carry it over, and I guarantee you the grudge goes.

724
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Speaker 4: We will probably have some loud conversations when you say stuff,

725
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Speaker 4: but at the end of it we'll be friends.

726
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Speaker 2: And I but there were guys in that building that

727
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: carried it grudge, and this is.

728
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Speaker 4: Why there were This is why I never had a problem.

729
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 4: Early I didn't like saying I was in the media

730
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Speaker 4: for whatever reason. But after the first few years, like

731
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Speaker 4: I'm in part of the media because I actually, as

732
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Speaker 4: a player, respected the media's job. Always did that, and

733
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Speaker 4: I always viewed it as like they have a job

734
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Speaker 4: to do. I have a job due and those jobs

735
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Speaker 4: might conflict sometimes that's okay. And I feel no different

736
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: about that now.

737
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Speaker 1: And I hope, I hope the guys underneath you realize

738
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: that as well. I knew Liam and Gladstone realized that.

739
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: And and don't make it an adversarial relationship because it

740
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: doesn't have to. If somebody writes something you don't like,

741
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: go to them, talk to them, work it out and

742
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: move on to the next thing.

743
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Speaker 5: Let's get a couple of final thoughts in our final

744
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 5: segment here after our ten years, what is the most

745
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 5: memorable moment of this show, Pete for you, like Monday

746
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 5: show after a big game or during a coaching regime

747
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 5: that didn't go well or whatever.

748
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: You know, sports coach, Still, what was that? That's like

749
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: in the beginning? That was in the very beginning. I

750
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: was still living in Jacksonville then then we were still

751
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: coming in the studio.

752
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: It was fun. It was even more funny he was

753
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: watching him tape it five times.

754
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Speaker 4: You know, my favorite thing of the show over ten

755
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 4: years is that I enjoyed it. It was fun like

756
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: it was a fun show, and I enjoyed the banter.

757
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 4: I enjoyed that it was It was real talk about football,

758
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 4: but also a lot of fun. And we never took like,

759
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 4: no matter how much Fete I disagreed or JP and

760
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 4: gave each other hard time, one never took a personal

761
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 4: or serious and like.

762
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Speaker 3: And we had a good time. And I just enjoyed

763
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: the show. I always enjoyed the show, except.

764
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Speaker 5: The phone calls early that's one of my favorite I

765
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Speaker 5: actually had no problem.

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Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite moments too, By the way,

767
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: that one guy when you went on that guy but.

768
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Speaker 4: My highlight of the whole thing, So that's my favorite

769
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 4: part of the show. The highlight for me is when

770
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Speaker 4: I fired Hayes car line.

771
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember that.

772
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: Pete was so offended. He said, you can't do that

773
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 4: to another media member. I said, yes I can. I

774
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: can do whatever I want. I can find you.

775
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: But the caller that you got all over that was

776
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: still one of the best ever.

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Speaker 2: You know what it ended up doing.

778
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: It led to us not taking calls in twee.

779
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: You know, I got a phone call about that saying,

780
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: I was.

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00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: You went over the top. You went over the top

782
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: a little bit phone call. I bet you got it.

783
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Got scolded for that when you went home too, because

784
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: you were not very nice that you would expect that

785
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: would have been me, not.

786
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: You, And I wash it was bad.

787
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: That was a bad one. That's that I apologize. I

788
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: apologize the next week on there.

789
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: You know what's you know it still stands out to me.

790
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: One it was late the season, but it still stands

791
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: out to because of his face and you laughing.

792
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: Was when I went on the lawyer ran.

793
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 9: Wow, exhibit this is exhibit the case claw Remember Jerry

794
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 9: decided well.

795
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Speaker 4: Second for me, it was the two weeks Jape he

796
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 4: was gone this week.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

798
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: I mean through the room.

799
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 5: Just wait until he's gone, Like this thing is going

800
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: to be weak over weeks.

801
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: You guys might be national by the time.

802
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: Probably, so we have a week where he wasn't there too.

803
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah that was about three years. That's like those are

804
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: incredible weeks.

805
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely have.

806
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: So much time. You wouldn't know what to do without me.

807
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I rolled on.

808
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 3: He's about he's about to find out.

809
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: No round, We'll still do stuff, still talk to the

810
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 4: fans and and uh, it'll be just a different role

811
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 4: and I'm looking forward to it.

812
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: It's like, you gotta admit, though, you have to do

813
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: less media now I have to.

814
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: You have to, I have to. It's a different approach too.

815
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: It's a different approach. And by the way, you know,

816
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 4: before I was analyzing it based on what we knew

817
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: and what was on tape. Now what I know is

818
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: a lot more. And it's also have a different responsibility

819
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 4: to the organization than I did before.

820
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Speaker 3: And uh, I look forward to that.

821
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: But we'll still have opportunities to come on and I'm

822
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: sure we'll find opportunities. On Monday, nights when you guys

823
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: are doing the show for me to come on every

824
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 4: once in a while and chop it up. But if

825
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 4: I'm being honest, I like my job right now a

826
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: lot more than the one I did, and I loved

827
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: what I did before.

828
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah you should.

829
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 3: He's only gonna come on after wins. He's not coming

830
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: tell the truth. Have I ever hit?

831
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: No, you never hit. There were a lot of guys

832
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 4: that tad I'm not talking to other people about. I

833
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: never never hit from a loss.

834
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: He never hit. He was always available.

835
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Speaker 5: Gentlemen, It's been a pleasure to be a part of

836
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: my pleasure. But you guys have been awesome. Appreciate JP.

837
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: I'd like to say something nice right now, but it

838
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 4: would be but it'd be so far out of character.

839
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone to believe it. But seriously, you did.

840
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 4: You did a great job putting them with Pete and I.

841
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 4: Not an easy job of trying to get us the breaks.

842
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 4: When I would keep on talking and Pete would just

843
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 4: start rambling on, and You're like.

844
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: I see the signals that you're not paying attention, and

845
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: I see them. Wrap it up, Wrap it up.

846
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: And JP, you did a great job.

847
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: You did you were part of making the show a

848
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 4: lot of fun and appreciate you and I appreciate both

849
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: of Appreciate both of you guys and your friendships more

850
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: than anything.

851
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 7: And send all your tweets please for the rec account

852
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 7: still open.

853
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: I just wanted to be known I left the show

854
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: because Pete was mean to me, because a turncoat.

855
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: It worked out for you played it. Can I get

856
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: a commission?

857
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: Pete Brisko, Tony Vasselli back in a moment.

858
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 5: We'll wrap it up from Andy after this it's Jaguar's

859
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 5: happy hour.

860
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 10: I think that the system that he will be able

861
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 10: to bring into place will be one that is at

862
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 10: least a way to surface where things are not right

863
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 10: quickly so you can address them, and it will help

864
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 10: provide things you know in a way that makes sense

865
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Speaker 10: and keeps making sense. So I think a system helps

866
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Speaker 10: form an identity, and identity is really hard to keep

867
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 10: over time, especially you know, when you've had different people

868
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 10: rotating through for a while, then it's hard to have

869
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 10: an identity. So I believe that focus in that system

870
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Speaker 10: and that structure creates a nice foundation to work from.

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Speaker 2: That's where I think you will know what is a.

872
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 5: Jag Cynthia Freelom earlier today here on Radio Row from

873
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Speaker 5: NFL Media and the full conversation at Jaguars dot com

874
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 5: and Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with the Magician.

875
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: After the Beatles on Ed Sullivan John Oser.

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Speaker 11: I mean it's like the bands he used to try,

877
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 11: Like you try to follow the Stones and you get booed,

878
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 11: you know. So I mean, it's fine, we'll do this

879
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 11: because there's some sort of time we have to get to.

880
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 11: But yeah, it's fine, We're sorry.

881
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Speaker 5: I love it though, thanks for having That's what we

882
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 5: start off. But it's a good wrap up to the

883
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Speaker 5: week here. There's been a lot to ha happen. Of course,

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Speaker 5: the new GM new head coach, new evp All speaking

885
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 5: with the media here this week and out nationally really

886
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 5: for the first time as a collective group, the entire

887
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 5: coaching staff here, and a lot of work getting accomplished

888
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 5: for this group.

889
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I think that's the key that you know,

890
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 11: for the Jaguars. The combine was sort of like a

891
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 11: cool road trip. But they could get along with each other,

892
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 11: or they can start getting to know each other. I

893
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 11: don't necessarily know that this group will approach the combine again.

894
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 11: This way, the Rams do not go to the combine

895
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 11: as the way most teams do. Gladstone and Liam Khone

896
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 11: are both from the Rams, so teams are overall starting

897
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 11: to take different approaches. It would surprise me if the

898
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 11: Jaguars find their own approach, maybe as small you know,

899
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 11: who knows, but you certainly got a feel for a

900
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 11: group that was coming together. We've had a chance to

901
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 11: see him a little bit off camera, JP. You know,

902
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 11: I think a lot of good people who are really hungry,

903
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 11: who are really ready to work hard. They have a

904
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 11: vision for being aligned. They are talking, you know, that's

905
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 11: the goal, that's the structure they want to do, and

906
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 11: it's going to be fascinating for people like us JP

907
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 11: close to it to see how those pieces get put

908
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 11: into place. It's an exciting time around here.

909
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 5: Next up, free agents set the start of the league year.

910
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 5: That's March twelfth. We've heard Tony talk a little bit

911
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 5: about their approach going into that, and then the offseason

912
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 5: program April seventh, the veterans are back in for offseason workout.

913
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 5: So the calendar never stops.

914
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, it comes fast, and I think it's important for

915
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 11: people watching us this week to emphasize what James Gladstone

916
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 11: said about this to us and on the podium Tuesday,

917
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 11: it's gonna go fast. They are on a clock, a

918
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 11: quick clock, but it's really the same clock they would

919
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 11: be anyway. Meaning once you get to the combine here

920
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 11: all teams are talking about free agency, there is a

921
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 11: time it starts, what March twelfth this year, seventh or eighth, sixth.

922
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 11: Teams want to have their plan. You want to start.

923
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 11: If you have to release guys, you want to start

924
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 11: doing that. If you're trying to restructure guys, you want

925
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 11: to get that going. So it's going to be a

926
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 11: busy few weeks, but it's a busy few weeks for everybody.

927
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 11: And I think what will be the dynamic that's interesting

928
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 11: here is there's a lot of decisions that they didn't

929
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 11: have preconceived notions on right, Like got the Christian Kirk situation.

930
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 11: Everybody knows they're trying to figure out how to make

931
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 11: that work. If they can make it work, well, if

932
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 11: they had all been here, they would have been thinking

933
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 11: that all along. They have to speed up their thinking

934
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 11: on things. But the actions that I think will be

935
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 11: at the normal pace.

936
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 5: And this is why you hear a lot of the

937
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 5: news around that around the league coming out of Combine

938
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 5: week because most of the agents are in town. Yeah,

939
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 5: and most of the teams are in town and some

940
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 5: times to get.

941
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 11: Together and the media is here right on top of them, right,

942
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 11: so they're hearing things at night when they see them

943
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 11: as they're heading to their rooms, et cetera.

944
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, or out.

945
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 5: One of the two heading out to the Yeah, everybody's

946
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 5: in bed by nine thirty right here. Unsweet and nice

947
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 5: teeth for everybody, right, how.

948
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 11: The bars opening? I know that, right, you'd never know,

949
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 11: so yeah, yeah, I mean, I think the overall theme

950
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 11: of the Combine for the Jags is just is just

951
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 11: that the coming together of this And you know, on paper,

952
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 11: it's it's Tony Bisselli and and Liam Cohne and and

953
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 11: James Gladstone, and that's great to put on a piece

954
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 11: of paper, but as they come together, the reality is

955
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 11: it's how those guys interact. And you know, I know,

956
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 11: Tony was just on the show with Pete, and I

957
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 11: think what's important about the Biselli story is he's that

958
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 11: guy on the air with you and Pete and he's

959
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 11: a fun guy at heart, but don't lose sight of

960
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 11: the fact that this guy can run things and he

961
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 11: is a high end communicator just like James Gladstone and

962
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 11: Liam Cohen. Those guys are gonna fit together well. And

963
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 11: it's with complete trust. As much as I make fun

964
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 11: of Biselli, it's complete trust in his vision and his

965
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 11: ability to help this along that really makes me up

966
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 11: to about this going forward.

967
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 5: He's obviously if he doesn't understand a concept or an

968
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: idea or he'll find out.

969
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 11: And sometimes he likes to play into the big lug

970
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 11: offensive tackle guy on the air because it's funny. I

971
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 11: don't underestimate his ability to look at a problem, solve it,

972
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 11: think through it. And that's what football management on that

973
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 11: side's all about. Its why Gladstone is going to be

974
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 11: really good? Ands why Besell he's gonna be really good.

975
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 11: And I'm just not including Liam cone that because it's

976
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 11: it's a different.

977
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: Joh He's got that too.

978
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 11: So it's a bright bunch of guys running this thing, all.

979
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 5: Right, Johnny, final couple of minutes here, what's your combine

980
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 5: highlight this week? What stood out the most to you?

981
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 5: Maybe not necessarily Jaguar related, but overall.

982
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 11: It would probably be Jaguar related because you know behind

983
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 11: the curtain stuff. Really, what we do now at the

984
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 11: combine is sort of talked to our own guy and

985
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 11: investigate the team. I don't spend that much time looking

986
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 11: at prospects. You don't feel like I can bring that

987
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 11: much to the table talking about Mason Graham because they're

988
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 11: you know, good raft central around here weeks. So I

989
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 11: think it really was getting a chance to talk to

990
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 11: Gladstone on Tuesday because I had missed the press conference

991
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 11: on Monday. You got the same chance. I don't think

992
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 11: it can be underestimated how good he is on the podium.

993
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 11: And that doesn't matter how good you are on the podium,

994
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 11: but when you're good on the podium, it means you're

995
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 11: a really, really good communicator. And my first impression to

996
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 11: him is the ability to set out a goal, a

997
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 11: plan and have as I said on Tuesday, a couple

998
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 11: of times, have the West Coast scout who's in Phoenix

999
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 11: be thinking the same way as the assistant wide receivers

1000
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 11: coach on a player and to know what this thing's

1001
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 11: all about. That sounds very basic, sounds like every team

1002
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 11: would be able to do that. It's that sort of

1003
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 11: communication that has it when they talk about alignment. If

1004
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 11: that's not happening, then you franchise can't be aligned. I

1005
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 11: think with Gladstone's abilities in that area, I think it's

1006
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 11: going to be a major thing for making this alignment work.

1007
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: Gotta get some thanks out for everything this week. Thank

1008
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 3: he's sitting right there.

1009
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, David, Choe Curry, Trent Padilla, Gabby, the whole

1010
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 5: shrew here this week on site and then back home

1011
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 5: as well, Joe Fortunado, Max Hawkman, Brent Reeber. I know

1012
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 5: I'm missing some people back home, Dave Decandas getting everything

1013
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 5: loaded up, all our digital team on the website, social media,

1014
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 5: everything involved there. But I thank certainly to the football

1015
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 5: leadership for the access this week. You'll see a lot

1016
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 5: of behind the scenes work that our crew here has

1017
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 5: been doing here at Indy coming up on the hunt

1018
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 5: in the coming episode, so check that out. So thanks

1019
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: to coach Cohen, James Gladstone, and Tony Biselli, our guests

1020
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 5: from NFL media the last two days. Judy Batista was

1021
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 5: fantastic on AM the other day, Charles Davis, rtt Lewis

1022
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 5: Mark Ross, Cynthia Friedler, who you just heard from had

1023
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 5: heard today and ESPN guest Mike Tannenbaum, and you had

1024
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 5: Matt Miller on the podcast.

1025
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, you setting it up.

1026
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: So that's a good Uh.

1027
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 11: Yeah, he's great, always very insightful. And if we're gonna

1028
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 11: get a fuel for the draft from a Jaguars angle, uh,

1029
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 11: it's a good podcast.

1030
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 5: Listen to Greg Cosell from NFL Films. We had him

1031
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 5: earlier today and of course Pete Prisco with BISSELLI just

1032
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 5: a moment ago here on Jaguars Happy Hour, John, great week.

1033
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, another one.

1034
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 11: So do combine twenty four for me, I believe.

1035
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: So we'll see how many more you get.

1036
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, it might be the twenty fourth and final for

1037
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 11: a while.

1038
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1039
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 5: I guess we'll see you you know later today. This

1040
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 5: is not over for us. We've got one more night,

1041
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 5: Yeah we do. I'll see you then, go Indy. John Hosier,

1042
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 5: I'm JP Shadwick. Thanks to you for watching and listening

1043
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Speaker 5: Jaguars Happy Hour.