1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, why Zaven Collins? Who 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: is Zaven Collins? We explain and give our thoughts on 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: the team's newest player, the sixteenth overall pick in the 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL Draft. It's Cardinals Cover two Episode 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: or eighteen, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit asy Cardinals dot Com, 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, throws near sight 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: of fitz pot He's into the end zone for the touchdown. 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grielou and Mike Jarecki. So we just had 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity to hear from the newest Arizona Cardinal, Zaven Collins, 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: the sixteenth overall pick in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: the linebacker mj out of Tulsa, and I gotta say 15 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: thoroughly impressed. You talk about first impressions at least over 16 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Zoom and his post draft interview with the media. Yeah, 17 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: I like this kid. He was very impressive and very emotional, 18 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: you know, obviously showing him when he was getting drafted 19 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: and very close to his mother and dream come true. 20 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, now listen, it's it's somebody that came late 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: on the radar for us. Cardinal's been you know, obviously 22 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: he Scott in this guy for a while. I think 23 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: the first guy was Tony Pauline, who does some stuff 24 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: with Trey Wingo. That was the first time I had 25 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: gotten winto that. And then you know, we started doing 26 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: our top fifty. I had him twenty eighth overall, but 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was curious to see because you know, 28 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: he said that he wanted to go top twenty. You know, 29 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: obviously the higher you go, the more money you're going 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: to make. But over the last couple of days you 31 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: started seeing him mocked. I don't think I ever saw him. 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: I saw him seventeen and eighteen. And then you're worried about, 33 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, how many corners and wide receiver's gonna come 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: out the board and how many linemen. Is very Tucker 35 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: going to be there? So I guess the only other 36 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: guy I would think is ranked as higher it would 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: have been Nigie Harris, and you know how I feel 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: about that, Craig, I'm not taking him at sixteen. Then 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they went exactly where they should have gone. 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: He went twenty three to Pittsburgh and then Travis Aten 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: went to Jacksonville. So now he goes back with Trevor 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: Lawrence and I do think we're going to see her 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: when I'm back come off the board tomorrow. But again 44 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: you start looking at athleticism. And you know, one thing 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: that I asked Steve and he corrected me right away, was, 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, because the Cardinals have had a tendency to 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: draft hybrid players. Dale Buchanan, Yes, he did play a 48 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: five year deal. They Hassan Reddick, Isaiah Simmons. Now, in 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: fairness to them, they slow played him at week side, 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,559 Speaker 1: but he said no, he's going to play the mic linebacker. 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: You know, Jordan Hicks is still on the contract. He's 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: twenty nine, plays a ton of snaps the captain on 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: a defense. But you're talking about six foot follower six 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: foot five guys, So it's going to be interesting to 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: see how they try to throw over, you know, over 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: the defensive line with a guy like JJ Watt and 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Zach Allen and Jordan Phillips. So I don't think it 58 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: was a need, but I think when you start looking ahead, 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: this is obviously what the Cardinals were looking for. And 60 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, they have time to try to get a 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver in a cornerback tomorrow and we'll see what 62 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: they do on day three. Yeah, a couple of things, 63 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: And first and foremost is let's look at the player himself. 64 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: At Tulsa's pro day, Collins checked in at six foot four, 65 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: seven eight, So let's round up bird gang. He's six 66 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: foot five, two hundred and sixty two hundred and sixty 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: five pounds runs a four six forty thirty five in 68 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: vertical ten foot to broad jump. So the athleticism is there. 69 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: And then you talk about harrying him with Isaiah Simmons 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: or as Kind pointed out, two trees there in the 71 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: middle of the field. As Simmons is six four, two 72 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: thirty eight, you are set at inside linebacker now for 73 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future, as long as Collins is able to 74 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: come in, and we'll have to wait and see, you know, 75 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: how he adapts to the pro game. But as far 76 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: as a player and his athleticism, and last year, at 77 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: this time it was Okay, what do you do with 78 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons? Where do you play him? There is no 79 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: question with Collins this year. You plug him in at 80 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: either next to Jordan Hicks or next to Isaiah Simmons, 81 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 1: and then you can do whatever with them. Rush the passer, 82 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: cover a tight end, coming across the middle, covering or 83 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: running back. That is his spot. So we don't have 84 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: to worry about any of that. And just again thoroughly 85 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: impressed with the person. Now it's okay, Now we need 86 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: to see the player in action. W It's going to 87 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: be interesting just to see the parallel size. And you know, 88 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: obviously Isaiah was drafted eighth overall here sixteen, both first 89 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: round picks, both in the top of the half of 90 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: the first round. But Cliff did mention and I'm encouraged 91 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: by this. They are going to have a rookie mini camp. 92 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: They are going to have preseason games, so you know, 93 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: you know how I feel about all those guys with 94 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: under one year, one year in the league, or two years, 95 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: they need to be on that field. So it's going 96 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: to be interesting just to see, you know, even though 97 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: Isaiah has a year under his belt, you know, and 98 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: he's going to be a lot more comfortable and confident 99 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: in playing a lot faster over the period of time. 100 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: This is going to be the future at the Cardinals 101 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: inside linebacker spot. And the fact is they're going to 102 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: have a rookie mini camp that's gonna go along when 103 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: you can make mistakes. Look go back and watch the 104 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: film preseason games. He's gonna be going against some of 105 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: these guys that are drafted. So I really like what 106 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: they were there. I don't think it was a need. 107 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: I think they had him ranked that high end their board. 108 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: According to Kingsbury quote, I don't think the learning curve 109 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: will be very steep for this young man, referring to Collins, 110 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: and then Coin brought up the fact that Zaven Collins 111 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: a valedictorian in high school, so he is smart and 112 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: played quarterback in high school, so he looks at the 113 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: game a little bit differently. And Collins even brought that 114 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: up that he knows how to read offenses because of 115 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: his quarterback background. So you have the athleticism, you have 116 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 1: the football IQ now courses, how quickly can you get 117 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: up to speed with everyone else? But I like what 118 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm hearing about Zaven Collins, and I totally understand. Yes, 119 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: he was late to the party, if you will. As 120 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: far as when we talked about that position and that 121 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: player specifically, it was a week or two ago that 122 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: we started talking about Micah Parsons and Zaven Collins, and 123 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: you were the first that I heard to bring up 124 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: Collins's name. We focus so much on corner and wide 125 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: receiver because those are needs, and yeah, they are still needs. 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: But the way the board fell and you saw players 127 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: come off that board, while you stick to your board, 128 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: as time likes to say, and you draft the best player, 129 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: the best talent, regardless of position. And it certainly sounds 130 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: like at linebacker is Avan Collins. And you go back 131 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: and I think the Cardinals, you know, it's all we 132 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: always talked about. And you know, as they got closer 133 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: to being on the clock, everyone's saying, you know, they 134 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: want to trade down, and again you need somebody that 135 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: wants to come up, and which player are they cutting 136 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: up for? And once all three of those receivers went 137 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: off the board, and then you had a couple of 138 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: corners and okay, you're like, a where's jac Horn gonna go? 139 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, Carolina and then You're like, Okay, Dallas, 140 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: they would love to have Patrick Settain and then they saying, 141 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, Dallas takes Michael Parson. So once that happened, 142 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: you know again you just look at the skill set 143 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: and the upside and really, you know, I think the 144 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals had drafted inside linebackers, what at least three out 145 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: of the last five years, maybe four. That sounds about 146 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: Roddy Fittertholon Dao Buchanan as well, and you Movednebacker and 147 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick as well. But yes, you know how I 148 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: feel about you know, when when you get a guy 149 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 1: and you know, let's give Andre Campbell out of credit. 150 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: The Cardinals only gave up two rush guard passing touchdowns 151 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: of tight ends were the other of those eighteen or nineteen. 152 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: So Kirsty who draws out assignment, also have Buddha there. Uh, 153 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see who's the free safety when it 154 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: comes to you know, the Thompson twins, there's gonna be 155 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Williams they got from Cincinnati. So I just like the 156 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: chess pieces. Now that Vance has we know that JJ 157 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: Watt can move around, even though he's probably gonna play 158 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: a three, five and seven technique we know Isaiah Simmons 159 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: at times when when they put more on his play 160 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: Unicorn and then Buddha Baker, I mean, this guy's going 161 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: to come off the edge. So I like the fact 162 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: that they got some athleticism, and they got some physicality, 163 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: and they got some dogs. Guys are not willing to 164 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: put their face in the fans, so I think that's 165 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: gonna show up on game day. Funny you mentioned chess 166 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: because that's what Collins referred to himself as a chess 167 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: piece that can be used in many ways. Yes, he's 168 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: gonna play one position, but as I referenced earlier, you 169 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things with him because 170 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: of his athleticism and his skill set. He's sidelined to sideline, 171 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: he's north and south. He's got that ability. At least 172 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: that's what we saw at Tulsa, a three year's daughter 173 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: who last season had four sacks, four interceptions. And I think, 174 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: to again go back to what Kimes said about two 175 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: big trees in the middle, it's gonna be hard for 176 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: opposing offenses and opposing quarterbacks. Now, as you like to say, 177 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: you get up to that line of scrimmage and you're 178 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: searching for a number of different players. Where is JJ Watt, 179 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Where is Chandler Jones? Is Buddha Baker in the box 180 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: or is he playing deep safety? Oh there's Isaiah Simmons 181 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: and oh no, Zaven Collins as well, And they might 182 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: be in different spot that you're not used to seeing, 183 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: so you're not going to know who's coming who's going. 184 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: And it does play that chess game if you will 185 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: vance Joseph first, the other team's offensive coordinator. And it 186 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: reminds me when Carlos Dansby was here. Now we know 187 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: Carlos dropped a lot now just a couple of years ago. 188 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: You correct me if I'm wrong. Jordan Hicks led the 189 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: team and interceptions a couple of years ago. So, and 190 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: for those big guys, when you're six four, six five, 191 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: sometimes you've got to get lower because now you're gonna 192 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: get running backs coming through there and they could put 193 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: you on a move. I're if you're not ready to 194 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: move your hips. So and then you can also squat down, 195 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: let the quarterback go through his progressions, and when you 196 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: think he's gonna try to throw over the middle down 197 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: the scene, that's when all of a sudden you can 198 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: get an interception or tip ball, and then obviously you're 199 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: trying to advance the ball if it's tipped and you're 200 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: get an interception. So I think we're again it's gonna 201 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna take some time for the chemistry. But I'm 202 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: curious to see what the and I said this last 203 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: year about Isaiah said in a snapcount, but what is 204 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: the defense look in September and then Craig there's injuries, 205 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: so his flexibility. I know they are going to just 206 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: try to, you know, zone on and zero in on 207 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: one position. But we get to November, all of a sudden, 208 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, what's the snap count and what else can 209 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: he do? But he's also probably going to play on 210 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: special teams. Oh, I don't think there's any question because 211 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: we did see Simmons play on special teams and flash 212 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: on special teams as well. Here's the pre draft analysis 213 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: courtesy ESPN on Zaven Collins. Dynamic versatile linebacker, stellar blend 214 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: of size, length and range, tall enough to see into 215 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: the backfield, quick enough to shoot the gap, has the 216 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: strength to hold his ground at the point of attack, 217 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: reads the quarterback. Has good ball skills for a linebacker, 218 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: plus flashes as a pass rusher. Again, not a need 219 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: per se, but in the first round, MJ. You do 220 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: not pass on talent. It's we talked about last year 221 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: with Isaiah Simmons. Not a need because you had Devandre Campbell, 222 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: but you don't pass us on that talent. And if 223 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: you do take a broad view of this, looking a 224 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: year or two years down the line, it is unneed 225 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: because Jordan Nicks under contract for two more years and 226 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: you're planning as a general manager should for the future. Now. 227 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: The immediate impact that has remained to be seen, but 228 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: as far as a broad view, now you are set 229 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: at inside linebacker with the ability to do different things 230 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: with those two players. I think when you look at 231 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks and I like to signing at the time, Craig, 232 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: because you know the game a longer term deal. That 233 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: the knock in Philadelphia was he couldn't stay healthy and 234 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: he played a ton of snaps those first couple of years, 235 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: But also when they didn't lost Corey Peters and they 236 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: didn't have Jordan Phillips, he's making tackles four or five 237 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: yards down the line of scrimmage and that's not on him. 238 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: And then there were times where he had a cover 239 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: tight ends. We know that's that's not a strength for him. 240 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: So I be curious to see what a snap count 241 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: is because I think you can rotate all three of 242 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: those guys, and quite frankly, I don't want to take 243 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Simmons off the field, and when it comes to Collins, 244 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: it's more how much can you put on this plate. 245 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: I think Hicks is still a leader in that locker room, 246 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: but I think based on just where they are, and 247 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: it's a young man's game, we'll see his snap count 248 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: throughout the season, and then the Cardinals have to make 249 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: a decision after twenty twenty one. It's a post day 250 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: one of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft addition Cardinals 251 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: Covered two presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 252 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: Interesting comments out of the gate from general manager Steve 253 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: Come when asked about Collins, what I liked about him, everything, 254 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: and he raved about his coverage skills and then added 255 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: this that I had never heard before. Said, according to Come, 256 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: that Collins received an Alpha tag on their board and 257 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: there were five players that received this tag and that 258 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: bird gang is rare skills, obviously, but rare leadership. Skills 259 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: and good guys in that locker room, players that others 260 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: will gravitate to, players that others will take leadership from. Now, 261 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to come right away as 262 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: a rookie, but someone that they see can be Ie 263 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback of that defense and maybe even one of 264 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: the faces of the franchise down the road, along with 265 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Isaiah Simmons and Buddha Baker, those players 266 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: that you want a part of your team for five, ten, 267 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: fifteen plus years. But that was something I had never 268 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: heard Kaim mentioned. And it is interesting because we just 269 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: look at film sometimes highlights and oh, this is a 270 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: good player. But this goes to show you that it's 271 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: always yes, it's the film, but then okay, it's background. 272 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: Who's who's this player as a person? What kind of 273 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: person are they? And getting that alpha tag, certainly you 274 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: could tell, and not only in the inflection in Kaim's voice, 275 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: but even his facial expression, that that is something that 276 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: is very orts and rare to see. And obviously there 277 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: were five players in this year's draft that received that 278 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: Alpha tag. That's the first time we've heard that. Now, 279 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: two things, you know what I always say, you know, 280 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: you can do all the study, you can do all 281 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: the Polkan prodding, but what's between the years and what's 282 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: in the chest. Well, first impressions, football IQ's off the charts. 283 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: He's a former quarterback, so he's you know, back in 284 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: high school, so it's a little bit different, not so 285 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: much disguising, but he's been on the other side of 286 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: the ball. He knows what it looks like and his 287 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: passion for the game. And I gotta think he was 288 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: a captain Craig. I don't know that for sure, but 289 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: three years there and he went to Tulsa. That was 290 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: his only scholarship. So that's what you want. And you 291 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: could tell just based on his first impression with the 292 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Arizona media, football IQ passion, energy, leadership, certainly something to 293 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: keep an eye on burg Gang as far as how 294 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: he develops in this game and how quickly he can 295 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: be an impact player within that defense the comp and 296 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: again we're big on that at least you are MJ. 297 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: As far as trying to figure out how traits or 298 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: to figure out, hey, if you're not too familiar with 299 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: this player, look at this player and the name that 300 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: kid brought up Tremaine Edmonds Bills inside linebacker who back 301 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen MJ just who happened to be the 302 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: sixteenth overall pick of Buffalo, but the measurable six five, 303 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: two sixty A Pro Bowl or each of the past 304 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: two seasons. I think it's a good comparison when you 305 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: look at certainly the size as an inside linebacker, a 306 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: little bit bigger than we've seen. But it's not so 307 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: much the height and the weight. What is your athleticism? 308 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: How quick are you? How fast are you? And then 309 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: of course the instincts the football IQ, your intelligence on 310 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: that field. Can you get to point A to point 311 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: B faster than the guy that you're trying to tackle? Yeah, 312 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: and that's something we're going to see that. But I said, 313 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: I want to reiterate because last year we basically didn't 314 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: have any offseason. It was virtual. I think there's only 315 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: so much and Cliff always says they want to get 316 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: on the grass. I think it's gonna be very important 317 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: the entire rookie class, the undrafted free agents. Now you're 318 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: only going to be allowed to bring in five tryout guys. 319 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: It's because of COVID and et cetera. But that's gonna 320 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: go a long way. And like I said, that's where 321 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: you make mistakes. You go back in and you corrected 322 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: on the film room. But I think he's going to 323 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: learn from Jordan and Phillips. He'll be able to learn 324 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: from J. J. Watt, He'll be able to learn from 325 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, and just the fact that he seems like 326 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: he's willing to learn. I mean, he said he's not 327 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: a real emotional guy, but tonight it hit him just 328 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: because him and his mother, you know, just growing up 329 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: and only having one scholarship. And he said she didn't 330 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: make a lot of money and now he can take 331 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: care of her. Yeah, I mentioned his mom took out 332 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: money from her four old one case so he could 333 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: travel the circuit and have everything that he needed to 334 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: be successful in high school and get into college and 335 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: get an education. And that speaks volumes. And again, it's 336 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: a small town in Oklahoma, Hominy, Oklahoma, population thirty five hundred. 337 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: And if you're wondering why we didn't see a lot 338 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: of Collins on television, well he informed us that his 339 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: draft party at Tulsa zero media just family and friends. 340 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: And then we're seeing some of the reaction later on, 341 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: But he wanted to make sure that the close knit 342 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: community of Hominy, Oklahoma, was able to enjoy this, and 343 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: that is why it was so emotional for him, because, 344 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: as they say, a small town, everyone knows who you are, 345 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: everyone knows what you're doing. So I'm sure they are 346 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: very proud of this young man reaching the pinnacle of 347 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: professional football. Well, and I don't know how big or 348 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: small the town is, but I can tell you this. 349 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: Anybody that sees what he's done, you know in life, 350 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: that's how you can ask for his opportunities. And if 351 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: you see a guy that came from a small town 352 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: and you know, lived with his mother and really had 353 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: a grind, and she had a grind to make things, 354 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: and kind of when you hear that that she give 355 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: up some of rafer o one K. I think that 356 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: happens more prevalent, and a lot of families probably aren't 357 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: able to do that because you know, usually you get 358 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: an agent and he gives you an advance and they're 359 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: hoping you're a first round pick. But yeah, that's just 360 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: how that's just how close they are. And here he 361 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: went on all these different football camps and he only 362 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: had one scholarship, you know, but again you got to 363 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: knock on the doors. They're knocking on your doors. Yeah, 364 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: he made the most of his opportunity at Tulsa, A 365 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: three year starter and very very good this past season. 366 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: In fact, he was the top defensive player in all 367 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: of college football, a unanimous All American, the Lombardi Bronco, 368 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: the Gerski Chuck bed Nerk Award winner, which are awards 369 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: given to the best defensive player, and then of course 370 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: the best linebacker as well. And he was number twenty 371 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: eight your big board. But I think it was one 372 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: of those additions as you look top to bottom that 373 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: you know sometimes you know, it's we have all these 374 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: mock drafts and then we wonder, well, why someone fell 375 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: or someone rose up boards is Well, these NFL teams, 376 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: they don't do mock drafts in January. They're still scouting, 377 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: they're still gathering information. So when they do their big board, 378 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: no one's rising and falling, and then information tends to 379 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: leak out, and then that's when these mock drafts come 380 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: out and someone, oh, instead of being a top ten talent, 381 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: he's now top five or all of a sudden drops 382 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: into the twenties. And you're wondering why nothing's changed. Well, 383 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: the information has changed, whether that's from teams or from agents. 384 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: And then that's why these mock drafts, there's so many 385 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: difference is in these and in how guys rise and fall. 386 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: But the Cardinals had him very high on their board 387 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: when they set their board. It wasn't like he rose 388 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: up and down during the course of this pre draft process. 389 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: And maybe one of the reasons why I had him twenty. 390 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: I do remember that day when we were talking about him, 391 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: I just you know, we started looking at the quarterbacks, 392 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I think they had five eventually throughout 393 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: the first round, had a couple of corners, eventually three, 394 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: and then a couple of receivers would come off the 395 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: bard and a couple of linemen. So you know, the 396 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: fact is he was going to get pushed on because 397 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: we didn't have a ton of defensive players, you know 398 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: what I mean. It was either quarterbacks, wide receivers or 399 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: a linemen. And then once you do more research on 400 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, and I think he leaned up a great 401 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: spout with the Dallas Cowboys Shaun Lee, and then they 402 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: didn't pick up They didn't pick up the option on 403 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: Kyle Vander Rush and Sean Lee retired. So anyways, when 404 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: I started looking at him, he didn't really fit what 405 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were looking for. Different set of a skill set. 406 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: So that's where all of a sudden, I thought Collins 407 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: came in the conversation. Yeah, you were quick on that 408 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: when you brought up Collins as far as fitting within 409 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: the scheme that advanced Joseph wants to use. As we 410 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: continue here on Cardinals covered too, presented by Unday, probably 411 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Day one of the twenty 412 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: twenty one NFL Draft is in the books. Let's look 413 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: at how the board fell, because I know there is 414 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: a segment out there of the bird Gang MG that's 415 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: questioning why for the second straight year you're taking a 416 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: linebacker and you're taking an inside linebacker. My response to 417 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: that is, I get it, But two, who you're gonna take? 418 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: Bird Gang? Who did you want at number sixteen? When 419 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: you see how the board shook out, five quarterbacks getting 420 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: drafted in the first fifteen picks, that was great news 421 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals because it then pushes other players down 422 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: closer to number sixteen. You had two wide receivers off 423 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: the board. Excuse me, three wide receivers off the board, 424 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: and the first two at five and six, Jamar Chase 425 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: and Jalen Waddle were done and not even available. They 426 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: were quickly off the board. And then the top two 427 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: corners were off the board plus three offensive lineman and Come, 428 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: without mentioning his name, we have to talk about it, MJ. 429 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: Caleb Farley was never in consideration with pick number sixteen 430 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: because of his medical background, and Come did bring up 431 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: issues with medicals without bringing up Farley's name. He did say, 432 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: you do not quote want to force a pick, and 433 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: it certainly sounds like that was an indirect reference to 434 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: Caleb Farley when he brought up the medical situation as 435 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: well as we know with the two back procedures and 436 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: the ACL injury he had in college. Yeah, I want 437 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: to say May had him twenty fifth, correct, Okay, So 438 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: I had him twenty fifth and that was the reason 439 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: why I just think he was going to drop. Now, 440 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: he did get drafted by the Titans, and they have 441 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: a history of drafting guys with injuries, so they must 442 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: have a good medical staff or they get approval from 443 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: from the team doctor. But he did get drafted in 444 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: the first round, and I'm happy for him because to 445 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: say here and go home tonight, and we go back 446 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: to January and February, you take away the medical which 447 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: we can't now. And then the latest was he's got 448 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: numbness in his toes and he claims and he stood 449 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: behind it, he was ahead of it. He'll be ready 450 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: for camp and he's going to a really good team 451 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: and franchise with Mike Rabel and they need help all 452 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: over that field, especially that secondary gets probably his replacement 453 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: for Dorry Jackson or Malcolm Butler. But yeah, again, there 454 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: was a reason why they decided. You know this is 455 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: because again I thought Parsons fit the role. But at 456 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I hate to say a 457 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: four three linebacker because we know Cardinal's line up three four, 458 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: but they put two outside linebacks liners current looks like 459 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: a five two, So it's it's kind of going back 460 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: to Tulsa. He played a three three five there, and 461 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: that's what they do in college. You get three and 462 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: then basically you got eight guys that can cover the 463 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: entire field with the hash marks where you're rushing three 464 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: and then you're dropping eight and that's what he played 465 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: there at three three five. I'd be curious to see 466 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: what advances sub packagers are going to look like, because 467 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: you want to get your playmakers on the field, and 468 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: I would assume that you know, Jordan Hicks could come 469 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: off the field on third down. I think you might 470 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: see a lot of Hicks on the sidelines, depending again, 471 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: how quickly Collins picks things up. Because we anticipated Isaiah 472 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: Simmons being an impact player right away, and of course 473 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: we know what happened Week one at San Francisco and 474 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: then we kind of lost Simmons for a while. He 475 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: had to regain the trust of Ants Joseph, and I 476 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: think that might be something here as well. With Collins. 477 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: You have to gain the trust of the coaching staff. 478 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: It's one thing to speak a good game, and Collins 479 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: did speak very well after night one, and I don't 480 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: think it was all lip service. This is a kid 481 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: that I think understands his position and is very appreciative 482 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: of his position, and as he said, he wants to 483 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: be great. He has been doubted his entire life, was 484 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: not highly recruited coming out of high school, but is 485 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: willing to put it in the work and is willing 486 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: to be coached and is willing to listen to his teammates. 487 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: He kept bringing up Jay J. Watt and going against 488 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray every day in practice and learning from these 489 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: guys to make him a better player. So, yes, again 490 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: I'll say it, it was not a need. But bird Gang, 491 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: tell me who you wanted with pick number sixteen. When 492 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: the top three wide receivers are off the board, the 493 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: top two corners are off the board. And yes, Kim 494 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: did speak highli If Farley a week ago, but at 495 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: that time you don't know about medicals, at least we don't. 496 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: In the media. He did talking about Kim, and it 497 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: was clear that Farley was not on their board or 498 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: they were not in position to draft him with the 499 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: sixteenth overall pick, and Elijah Vera Tucker was off the board. 500 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: That would have been another option, I think for the Cardinals. 501 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: When you're talking about offensive lineman, he was the third 502 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: offensive lineman went number fourteen to the Jets, who moved 503 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: up in the draft in the trade with the Vikings. 504 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: So your best wide receivers are off the board, your 505 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: best corners are off the board, your best offensive linemen 506 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: are off the board. What's left linebacker and that just 507 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: happened to be Davin Collins. Now, you know, it is 508 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: a deep draft for wide receivers and cornerbacks. And again 509 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, they're picking forty ninth overall tomorrow and then 510 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to sit back and wait unless they 511 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: try to offer maybe a future pick next year. We'll 512 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: wait and see on that. But you know, again it's 513 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: a deep draft both of those positions. I noticed the 514 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: first Georgia cornerback went off the board. I think it 515 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: was Ernie Jones. He's the one that running four two five. 516 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: But then Tyson Campbell we talked about DRC. Tyson Campbell 517 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: is a guy that could be there at forty nine. 518 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: But I think we're gonna start to see a run 519 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: on some of these second and third tier wide receivers 520 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: in the second and the third tier corners, because you know, 521 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: last year, in the first three rounds, we had twenty 522 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: one corners drafted in seventeen wide receivers. And I got 523 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: that was in the first three rounds. And so tomorrow 524 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: we'll cover that second third round, and of course we'll 525 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: be there on Saturday for foot rounds four to seven. 526 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: So I do think a run, and I think at 527 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: the end of the day they'll be thirteen quarterbacks drafted. 528 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm careous to see, you know. When it comes to 529 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Trask, I thought maybe the Bucks would take him, 530 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: but the Bucks end up taking the kid from Washington 531 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: who's a freak, so we'll see. But anyways, Yeah, it's 532 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting in a row. That thirty third overall 533 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: pick is usually attractive, and Cardinals really don't have a 534 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: lot of wiggle rooms, so they're gonna have to put 535 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: three or four names on a like a paper or 536 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: look at their board and say hopefully that one of 537 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: those guys is there. But I would assume, and it 538 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: could be alignment, but I would assume it's going to 539 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: be wide receiver or corner. Again, they're in stick to 540 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: their board, and I got to think that some of 541 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: those guys, a little bit of knee craig will be 542 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: attracted to them, And I think that might be the 543 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: area in which, if you're the gentle manager, you do 544 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: look to move up for at the sacrifice of future 545 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: picks down the road, or maybe even sixth or seventh 546 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: rounds election. You've got a couple of seventh round selections 547 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: in this year's draft to move up from forty nine 548 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: if there is a corner or a wide receiver that 549 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: you like. Now, Corner, I know you know you don't 550 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: want to force the issue, and I get that, but 551 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: I think in Day two and Day three, it does 552 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: become more neat as opposed to best available players still 553 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: on the board. Because this team, I think it's a 554 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: necessity to come away in this draft with a cornerback 555 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: or two wide receiver. I'm not too worried about because 556 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: I think then that would tell us that they are 557 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: high on Andy Isabella, Keyshawn Johnson, and maybe this is 558 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: finally the year for Christian Kirk. But right now I 559 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: look at that cornerback position and it makes me makes 560 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: me cringe a little bit. MJ. I'm not gonna lie 561 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: to you because as much as of a fan as 562 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: we all are of Robert Alford, I just can't trust him. 563 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say that out loud, but two seasons 564 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: he's been the best corner in training camp and then 565 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: we I haven't seen him in the regular season because 566 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: of injury. I think corner has to be addressed on 567 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: Day two, whether that's the second round, the third round, 568 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: and of course, to get into the third round, the 569 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals would have to make a trade. Yeah, I mean, 570 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna word trust, It's just you know, he's 571 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: got to stay healthy. I mean, he's done everything his power. 572 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember last offseason, so you know, I mean, 573 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: this is it for him. I mean, he took a 574 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: huge pay cut, and rightfully so, because he's made a 575 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: lot of good money. But you know, we always talk 576 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: about bringing to all the fourteen to camp. I got 577 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: to think, you know, some of these guys now that 578 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: the drafts over, not so much Richard Sherman, but there's 579 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: some other veterans out there. Again, if they only have 580 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: a rookie mini camp and then they can't get the 581 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: veterans possibly hopefully a mandatory mini camp for OTAs, that's 582 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: when you start to flood the position. So I anticipate 583 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: in another thing, if they don't draft a tight end, 584 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffert is out there, and you know that's a 585 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: guy that could bring in on a one year deal, 586 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: could just solidify that wide receiver or tight end position. 587 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: So I'll have to wait and see, but I'd be 588 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: curious to see because right now, the players on the street, 589 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: they don't have any leverage, and then you start bringing 590 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agents and now, all of a sudden, 591 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: this guy's got a bigger upside than this veteran player. Now, 592 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: some guys that have been in the league for seven 593 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: or nine years, they'll look like they're making nine fifty five, 594 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: but the league actually pays three hundred thousand of that 595 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: because they want to keep veteran players in the league, 596 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: so the cap numbers a little bit lower. So I 597 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: gotta think, you know, maybe they've been talking at a 598 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: few guys, and I'm glad they signed James Connor because 599 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: you always wonder is how it's going to affect the 600 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: former them compense Troy picks, and then getting Butler, at 601 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: least on paper, if Elford's healthy, you have three starters, 602 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: and then you got and then you got Chase Whittaker, 603 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: who could play a slock, a little bit undersized special 604 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: teams player. Let's spring this show full circles. Zaven Collins, 605 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: the sixteenth overall pick in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, 606 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: the newest member of the eras on a cardinal quote, 607 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: I've been working for this my entire life. I only 608 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: dreamed of Arizona and being in that organization end quote, 609 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: it certainly sounded like he wanted to be in Arizona. 610 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: Steve Concliff Kingsbury made it perfectly clear that they wanted 611 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: Zaban Collins, and the board shook out that way and 612 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: he was the best player or the highest graded player 613 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals big board at that time. Are there 614 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: other needs, yes, And as we just talked about, I 615 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: think they need to be addressed. At least cornerback needs 616 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: to be addressed on day two of this draft, because 617 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: it is very slim in that area. But I am 618 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: certainly intrigued. And I'll go back to what we started 619 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: this show talking about, and just how well thought, well 620 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: spoken and appreciative Collins was. That the Arizona Cardinals are 621 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: taking a chance on someone that, yeah, very successful in college, 622 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: but certainly had to come from a small town to 623 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: make a big name for himself. Well said. And you know, 624 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to see him on the field, curious 625 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: to see what number he'll have. I think we'll get 626 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: those now once we get the draft picks done, and 627 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: then we'll get the new players with their numbers are 628 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: going to be. We'll see if hop changed his number 629 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: from ten to six, and you know that's what I 630 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: think he wore in college. So yeah, yeah, I'm just 631 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just excited that these guys are going 632 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: to get a chance to get on the field and 633 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: that's something they couldn't do last year. It's gonna go 634 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: a long way. Craig Fyi Collins, we're twenty three at Tulsa, 635 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: So if you're keeping track of this stuff and whether 636 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: or not that might be available for him, or if 637 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: he goes and the teams maybe takes number two, maybe 638 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: number three, those numbers are available. So again, that's what 639 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: we do here on Cardinals Cover two. MG. We give 640 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: the people what they want. They want to know numbers, 641 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: they want to know uniform numbers. They want to Collins 642 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: jersey that will be in the team shop sooner rather 643 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: than later, I'm sure. Well, and I'll Ala Murray came 644 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: out and tweeted, let's go big fellow paraphrasing. But he 645 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: is from Oklahoma. But it was interesting where you know, 646 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: he had Jalen Wattle, who I think is going to 647 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: be the best wide receiver in this draft. He pairs 648 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: back up with two where they played at Alabama, Joe Burrow, 649 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: they get Jamar Chase. He played with them at L 650 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: Shoe And so it's kind of and I can't wait 651 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: for the schedule to come out because the schedule makers 652 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: are going to try to be cute here. Yes, I 653 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: know the rookies and some may not start right away, 654 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: but some of these young quarterbacks, and I gotta say, 655 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: for all those Bears fans out there, I hope you 656 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: found your quarterback and gives Ryan pace and Matt Naggie's 657 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: some wiggle room. But I like Andy Dalton, but obviously 658 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: they needed a quarterback for the future. And if he 659 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: if he can just be you know, get him into 660 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: the postseason, he'll be the savior there in Chicago because 661 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: it's been a long long time. So I'm curious because 662 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: we focus so much Craig on this first round. And 663 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: would I always say, is there's forty five guys, there's 664 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: actually thirteen tonight or pissed off because they're a or 665 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: somebody else told them. So all these guys are going 666 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: to come in with a chip on their shoulder. But 667 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow we're gonna start seeing some of those names that 668 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: we had in our top fifty. Justin fields. By the way, 669 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: the new Bears quarterbacks. Speaking of quarterbacks, real quick, m J. 670 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the quarterback that the Cardinals are going 671 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: to have to worry about potentially twice in twenty twenty 672 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: one or at least in twenty twenty two and in 673 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: the future. The forty nine Ers with the third overall 674 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: pick the whole Mac Jones Trey Lance debate. Trey Lance 675 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: is the guy in according to forty nine Ers head 676 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: coach Kylee. Shanahan, that was the guy they wanted all 677 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: along when they moved out from number twelve and then 678 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: trade with the Eagles. Well, when you get a guy 679 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: like Chris Sims comes out, and you know, Chris Sims 680 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: is not afraid to rank different quarterbacks and tears, and 681 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, he's very consistent. He said, he was still 682 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: surprising he you know, everyone thought because of his relationship. 683 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: Now I'm sure he's not on speed Dow, but yeah, 684 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: he to me, he's dynamic, not a lot of starts, 685 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: but he fits with a What the quote was is 686 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: they want a quarterback like Drew Brees that can run 687 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson, and that's his offense. And you know, 688 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna add some more weapons for him. 689 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I mean, I'll tell you what 690 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna look at the careers of Kyler 691 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Murray and Trey Lance. I know it's Kylo's got a 692 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: couple of years, and that's good because he's going into 693 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: his third year. But this is gonna be Russell Wilson 694 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: is not going to be in this division forever, nor 695 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: is Matthew Stafford. So the NFC West Mobile dual quarterbacks 696 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers and the Cardinals moving forward. 697 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: And by the way, I need to correct myself, not 698 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: a trade with the Eagles, a trade with the Dolphins 699 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: and knock on wood. I'm just glad Aaron Rodgers is 700 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: not in the division. And we won't go any further 701 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: than that right now because that opens up a whole 702 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: another can of worms that we just don't really have 703 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: the time to get into. But it's certainly a lot 704 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: of fun on traff Day. We await days two and three, 705 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: and we will talk to you after day two here 706 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Covered two as put a lid on this 707 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: edition special thanks as always to our executive producer Jim 708 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: Momhandro for Mike Jarecki I'm Greg Rayel Lou. We'll talk 709 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: to you next time you're on Cardinals cover two.