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Speaker 2: You know, don't bowl championship. That should always be the expectation.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, you go ahead. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman Podcast. I got a great guest for you, guys,

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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, named after the late great Kobe Bryant. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, brother? How you I'm doing good? Man? You know,

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Speaker 1: we it's track season for me and the kids. So

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Speaker 1: the kids performed well, you know at the last meet, so.

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Speaker 2: I'm all good for sure.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm. So how are you feeling now? You know

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Speaker 1: I've met you before your first season, and now you

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Speaker 1: don't got your first season under your belt, you've caught

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Speaker 1: your rhythm at the end of last year. How you

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Speaker 1: how you feel about the league and about everything?

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Speaker 3: I feel a great you know obviously you know the

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Speaker 3: conversation that we had, you know, and us working together

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Speaker 3: as well too. But like you said, you know that

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Speaker 3: first year is always up ups and downs, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's product growth and then uh, just how we finish

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Speaker 3: the season, you know, I was pretty pretty happy about it.

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Speaker 3: But obviously, you know, there's always work to be done.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, this off season, I got a

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Speaker 3: chance to spend time with the family. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: a way longer off season in college, and uh, it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the off season is definitely a lot different

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Speaker 1: in college. You're not getting killed, and then when you're

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Speaker 1: getting the OTAs, you're not paying because you're not a

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Speaker 1: rookie no more. You're sitting there like, man, if I

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Speaker 1: if I keep beating this rep, they cutting me right.

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Speaker 1: Your first year, boy, So so tell me about when

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Speaker 1: things started to click for you, because it looked like

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Speaker 1: things started to click, especially down the stretch. You know,

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Speaker 1: obviously you start to force fumbles throughout the year. You

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Speaker 2: Said, it's just picking up man, you know, just getting

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Speaker 3: You know, like at the beginning of the season, you know,

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Speaker 3: I was still trying to just you know, going from

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Speaker 3: I said, with you Ship, you know, Andre Jamal, all

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Speaker 3: the older guys, you know, just telling me just to

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Speaker 3: once that started happening, I feel like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: So what's your expectations for yourself going to this year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just be more confident, you know, and then play.

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Speaker 3: You know, me and a coach Scott actually used a

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Speaker 3: term like the crutch. You know, last year they understood

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Speaker 3: it was my first year playing playing nickel.

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Speaker 3: You know, so this time I'm able to do a

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Speaker 3: Man, that's the biggest thing always, you know, make players

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it's about. That's what it's about. When

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Speaker 1: You won the thorpe. Coming into the league, you know,

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Speaker 3: Honestly, you know I might be a little biased because

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's just you know, you guys set

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Speaker 1: Well, you had you had a great rookie year, you know,

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Speaker 3: You know that's for me. And he's just he's just

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't call him soft anything. It's always

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Speaker 3: I remember when he first stepped on on campus. You know,

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Speaker 1: So throughout the season, you matched up with a lot

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Speaker 2: Definitely last year, I would say Davonte Adams.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was fun. It was funny, you know,

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Speaker 1: You got covered him well, but he still made them

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Speaker 2: That's all That's all you can do is play defense man,

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Speaker 1: Right, That's all right. Uh, But you guys got Bobby back,

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Speaker 1: Jamal's coming back, obviously, Quandre's back, Reeks back. You got

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Speaker 2: I love Bobby.

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Speaker 3: I was able to just to top it up with

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Speaker 3: You know, he has fun. He jokes around a lot too, man,

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Speaker 3: You know, I had to tell like, you got to

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm excited to play with both of

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Speaker 1: Don't worry when them lights you go see a different

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I love coach Pete. Man, he's energetic.

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Speaker 1: Sure, what what do you think he said? You know,

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Speaker 1: was there anything he said to you throughout the season?

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Speaker 1: Why you're gaining your confidence? You know, he's totally about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually remember, you know, first after the first

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Speaker 2: You know, you're a great player. He even talked about

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Speaker 3: you're a great player. Make plays, you know, just do

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Speaker 2: And from from that point on, like you know, I

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Speaker 3: Game and have fun, and just to know that the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't feel like you you out there worried

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Speaker 1: So what's the expectations for the team? Obviously, genokme, you know,

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Speaker 1: off a Pro Bowl year, got DK, you got the rookies.

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Speaker 1: What is your impression of the two rookies that came

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you gonna swim.

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Speaker 3: You know, he just comes in, you know, keeps his

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Speaker 2: And actually I'm pretty close with jas Man. You know,

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Speaker 2: You know, he would have did what he did against

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Speaker 3: Mine, but talk about it, you know, you know I

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Speaker 3: You know, we all need to be on the same page. Offense, Defense,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a great year for you. It's

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Speaker 2: Because you know I'm still at.

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Speaker 2: All the love is the best thing, honestly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. You've been back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually here right now. That's why I'm in this,

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Speaker 1: How is that felt? Coming back? You big man on campus?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's love here, man. You know, I how

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Speaker 2: When campus definitely is a blessing.

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Speaker 1: Man. That's what you work for, right exactly what you

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Speaker 2: No, never, never did you know that was that was

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm usually never been with like photos or

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Speaker 2: You know. I would have just told him, you know,

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Speaker 1: He would have done it. He would have done it.

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Speaker 2: Tob me, it's all love. It's all love.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was great to see. Then I

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm here, And yeah, it was such a

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Speaker 2: That's the best bro, that's the best man.

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Speaker 1: Sure he was. He was cool. So so Kobe got

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Speaker 3: Definitely, Definitely, it's definitely him, you know, Lebron. Obviously, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm always in his corner no matter what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a Lakers fan, so you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: Fan right now, no question, no mystery.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You got on any vacations yet or you just been

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Speaker 2: No, I've just been in the States, man.

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Speaker 3: I actually haven't took any vacations, but I should have

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Speaker 3: took took a few other country man, But I wait

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Speaker 2: It's grind time now, you know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that time now it is too late, yeah,

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Speaker 1: looking for next February, some time late in the late February,

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Speaker 1: early March, be right there, you know for sure. If

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Speaker 1: you got any questions from me, you know I'm always

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Speaker 1: happy to answer, yes, sir. But I appreciate you joining me,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you taking time out, your day out, your workout coming.

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Speaker 2: On for sure. Appreciate you, man, always appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you next time. I'm gonna hit you during

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Speaker 1: the season and see if we can't get you back

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Speaker 1: on a way. All right, brother, all right, bro. The

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