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Speaker 1: Love Game.

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Speaker 2: It presents conversations with a legend, best of show.

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Speaker 3: And now here's LeVar Arrington. Hello, everybody's LaVar Arrington hair.

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Speaker 2: Yes, come into you lie with another exciting addition of

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Speaker 2: up on Game presents.

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Speaker 3: That's your mama. No, I'm just joking. It's conversations with

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Speaker 3: a legend.

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Speaker 2: And I got a legend whip me today, Boy do

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Speaker 2: I got a legend.

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Speaker 3: Whip me to day Chop Chop.

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Speaker 2: Some people call him t Ko, some people call him

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Speaker 2: iu Get, some people call him Ryu, some people say

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Speaker 2: street Fighter two. But you know, to the regular human

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Speaker 2: being out there, we call him mister to Kiyo Spikes.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the show, my brother. How's everything going? How

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Speaker 2: you're feeling?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: From one back of to another? My dog, Everything is good.

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Speaker 1: Life is good here in the at. I'm finally glad

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Speaker 1: I got the call to be on the show.

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, we've been waiting for this. I've been waiting.

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Speaker 2: Anytime I get a thumper like myself coming on the show.

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Speaker 2: It's always exciting for me because we just relate in

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Speaker 2: a different way.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's just a different manner for you, you know. And

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Speaker 2: speaking of legends and legends, community. I gotta jump into

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Speaker 2: the approach the idea because very few people that I've

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Speaker 2: come in contact with have ever been as intense, if

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Speaker 2: not more intense, than I am.

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Speaker 3: And it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I remember a lasting memory and you might not even

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Speaker 2: remember it, but I remember a lasting memory.

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Speaker 3: We were playing against.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo and before the game, well, y'all were going into

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Speaker 2: the locker room, I believe, and I saw you and

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Speaker 2: I was like, what's up, bro? And you looked at

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Speaker 2: me like you do know. I'm ready to rip your head,

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Speaker 2: smooth off your neck and your shoulders and keep walking

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Speaker 2: before your body hits the ground. And I had never

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Speaker 2: I had never been in a position because I'm that's

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Speaker 2: usually me.

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Speaker 4: Hey, bro, Hey, that was all of that frustration picked up.

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Speaker 1: You going out there, you holding teams to fourteen fifteen points.

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Speaker 4: You supposed to come out with the dumb right, And

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Speaker 4: so I recognized.

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what, we always recognize each other

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Speaker 1: balling to a ball that that we brothers. Ye.

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Speaker 3: I was so.

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Speaker 4: Pissed, Bro, I was big. I'm like, man, I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to get a dumb man.

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Speaker 1: Don't be trying to soften me up, right, Gotta watch

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Speaker 1: for the hook man.

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Speaker 2: I just couldn't that that moment on you. That moment

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Speaker 2: on changed my pregame approach. I ice grilled everybody from

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Speaker 2: like ice grilled, grilled, like offensive dudes, like trying to

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Speaker 2: intimidate them. Used to like walking stair dudes down pre game.

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Speaker 2: But that made me start doing it to everybody. I

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Speaker 2: was like, man, Tekio Spikes just sunned me in Buffalo

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Speaker 2: in the Orchard party.

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, that was fire, Like, threw me off.

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Speaker 2: It totally, So you thought I was trying to throw

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Speaker 2: you off it totally threw me off. But I'm sitting

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Speaker 2: there like, yeah, I'm gonna do everybody the same exact

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Speaker 2: way from here on out. So I wasn't friends with nobody.

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Speaker 2: But if it was during the game, if it had

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Speaker 2: something to do with the game, I went, we went cool,

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Speaker 2: Like we just went cool. I changed it up from

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Speaker 4: This is the thing, though, this is that's what I do.

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Speaker 4: Remember when you.

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Speaker 1: I think, I don't know if it was Josh Reed

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Speaker 1: or somebody was on the sideline and you was coming

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Speaker 1: over there and they saw you coming like probably fifteen

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Speaker 1: so by the time you made it over there towards

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Speaker 1: the sideline. I was like, I was thinking in my head,

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Speaker 1: like I'm glad he did get damn because he was about.

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Speaker 3: Forget cappitate something.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even say that.

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Speaker 1: You walked over and you looked at me and said, TKO,

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Speaker 1: you better tell him I'm gonna take his.

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Speaker 3: Head and take that off im. Just like, hey, damn,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking it.

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Speaker 2: I would have loved to have got it. I tried

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Speaker 2: to add as many heads as I could to my wall.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: All right, crave, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Let's jump into the first hot take. You mentioned the threats.

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Speaker 2: I did not threaten, and I'm glad I get an

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Speaker 2: opportunity after all these years to clear this up. I

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Speaker 2: would not threat and the original QB killer about anything.

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Speaker 2: What I merely did is something that I know you

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Speaker 2: would respect because I feel like we're cut from the

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Speaker 2: same cloth. Is that the same thing that you were

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Speaker 2: doing to guys? I was aware of it and where

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Speaker 2: I'd come from, you can't allow that to happen now.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna tell you that. When I said it,

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Speaker 2: it was like, what the hell am I doing? Like

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Speaker 2: that's Warren Sap I know that's Warren Sap. But if

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Speaker 2: I don't say this, like we were in the meeting

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Speaker 2: and I'm like sitting there and I'm like, do you

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Speaker 2: understand what the ultimate I'm gonna kick your ass and

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Speaker 2: y'all can't do nothing about it. What that first, that

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Speaker 2: first mental emotional attack would be, is Warren Sap coming

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Speaker 2: and skipping through your stretching line.

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Speaker 3: I know you know it. I know you knew it.

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Speaker 3: I had to say it.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't respect me if I didn't come out and

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Speaker 2: I didn't say what a whole bunch of people wanted

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Speaker 2: to say and.

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Speaker 5: Didn't do it. You want you wanna hear the best part?

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Speaker 3: Tell me the best part.

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Speaker 5: Then, when in DC, leaving Landover to go to the stadium,

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Speaker 5: you will never guess when the elevator opened on my

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Speaker 5: floor to go down, who's standing right there?

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Speaker 3: Dan Snyder? No, Chris is worse.

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Speaker 5: Chris Coffins wor You remember he was doing the game

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Speaker 5: and he was like, I gotta get there early. That's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a fight. No, I was, so I had

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Speaker 5: a left, I had a left be with you. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: a he just talking a while. I said some ship

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Speaker 5: like that, too when I was young for the come too.

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Speaker 5: That's not just what you gotta do. And he gonna

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Speaker 5: make a play if somebody, he gonna knock somebody out.

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Speaker 6: So, I mean, it ain't like it ain't like his resume.

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Speaker 5: Aint said. So I'm like, I'm gonna leave him alone.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm hot with Chris Collins work. You've been coming

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Speaker 5: to this stateium watching me do my thing. That's never

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Speaker 5: been a fight, and what need to fight? My brother

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Speaker 5: LaVar Aaron tip before the game.

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Speaker 6: He's on defense. Defense unless they.

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Speaker 3: Tell you that tight end or fool back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we should have to deal with corect It's this

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Speaker 5: just this, just this, just bam.

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Speaker 3: But the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: I was in your stadium. Now you come to Temple.

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Speaker 5: I was going to boy, you lucky. You wouldn't You're lucky,

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Speaker 5: I said, boy, he lucky.

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Speaker 3: You know what I was like, I was lucky you

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Speaker 3: didn't do it. You know, no, I called it out.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what your stadium is.

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Speaker 3: I told security.

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Speaker 2: I told security, do not do not put me in

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Speaker 2: a position where I can't play. Hey don't, Hey, I

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Speaker 2: might look, but here's the thing. It's a team Sport.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna just hold you for the camera. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: for the camera. I'm gonna hug you up. I'm just

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Speaker 2: telling you right now for the camera. I'm gonna hug

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Speaker 2: one sap up now. And I hope I'm gonna hope

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Speaker 2: that everybody breaks us up.

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Speaker 3: I just was on my way to work. I don't

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the little fact nose tapper who

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Speaker 5: came wrong from Pittsburgh was chasing me.

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Speaker 6: Fuck gonna catch me.

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Speaker 3: I'm chasing.

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Speaker 5: I was on my way to work down I'm skipping

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Speaker 5: on my way to work with The bad part about

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Speaker 5: it was Tony Dungee was with me all of years,

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Speaker 5: six years that I was doing this in telfor He

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Speaker 5: knew and he laid his Indianapolis pokes out there on

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Speaker 5: the field and I.

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Speaker 3: Thought he was coming through. Warren sat the stretch line, skipper.

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Speaker 5: There's a rule against that. Now, there's two rules against me.

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Speaker 5: You can't you can't go hurt nobody up on the

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Speaker 5: crack back. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Jump on that now. We're gonna jump on that too.

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Speaker 2: Second rule is you can't.

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Speaker 6: Get stretch thing. You gotta you gotta go around people.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm never I told him, I said, draw

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Speaker 5: me a route to work, because ain't no way. I'm

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Speaker 5: going long way. I'm going straight, straight through the fastest

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Speaker 5: distance between any two points a line, straight line. Got

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Speaker 5: four quarters of hell. The two people trying to hold

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Speaker 5: me down. But I ain't wasting no steps just to

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Speaker 5: warm up.

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Speaker 2: All I know is for the record, I was happy

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Speaker 2: is hell that you didn't go.

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Speaker 3: It was a win.

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Speaker 2: It was a pregame win, and make no mistake about it.

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Speaker 2: That was before everything went bad in Washington for me.

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Speaker 2: I was still a captain. I was still a leader.

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Speaker 2: I went in that locker room and I was like, shop,

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Speaker 2: ain't coming through our stretch line.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna win this game.

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Speaker 2: Ya, We're gonna win this game, y'all got get your

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Speaker 2: minds right, y'all think I got sat.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think we lost.

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Speaker 5: I think we lost, though, But that's what I'm supposed

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Speaker 5: to do as a leader of the team. Step forward,

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Speaker 5: get the heat and let it deflect off.

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Speaker 3: You call.

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Speaker 6: Some people can't take that.

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Speaker 3: They can't take that pressure.

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Speaker 6: That hen melt him down to a little nugget.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right now, let's talk about the crackback block,

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Speaker 2: because to me, that's one we didn't been cracked back on.

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Speaker 2: We've been chopped, we've been high loaded, we've been grabbed.

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Speaker 2: I know you are grabbed by multiple people every single play,

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Speaker 2: like worthy of people getting arrested and putting cars. You've

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Speaker 2: been grabbed on so bad and throwing games. But then

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Speaker 2: the tide turns. You guys were turnover artists. Y'all forced

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Speaker 2: the pressure, the ball comes out. Guys are benefiting from it,

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Speaker 2: none more than my man five to five himself, mister Nichols,

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Speaker 2: the original, the og Ogs, and and Dee Brooksy y'all

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Speaker 2: getting y'all getting picks all year long. And Chad Clifton

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Speaker 2: happened to be the recipient.

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Speaker 5: He was loafing because when I when I took off

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Speaker 5: for Fall, Fall took off left me. So I look

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Speaker 5: back and he over there loafing but just so happy

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Speaker 5: by rule. You know, the old Liona got some stupid ass,

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Speaker 5: you know, fires up on the wall, and you know

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Speaker 5: the biggest one is not being in the framework after

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Speaker 5: the interception that's like fifteen to three thousand dollars.

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Speaker 6: They really make that a stupid frind. You gotta run.

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Speaker 5: You gotta be in the frame when when the ball

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Speaker 5: is over, you got to be in the frame of it.

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Speaker 5: If you ain't, you know that frame is why that's.

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Speaker 2: A wide shot. That's gon have to be that close

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Speaker 5: good night. I can't help. They design Raymond James Stadium.

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Speaker 5: They're like, what's myself? Oh, I said, come back, I

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Speaker 5: I said, my god, that ground hard. He said, oh,

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Speaker 5: But He came back the next year after getting the

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Speaker 6: So we slept. Man, I don't even face path.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people like I just had an interview

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Speaker 2: with with with Greg Lloyd, like one of I like

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Speaker 5: The things the afternoon in game Day, that's correct. I

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Speaker 5: don't need a nasty DISSI in the locker room money

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Speaker 5: too said that don't do nobody no good. When Jackson

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Speaker 5: and you got to put something on the table and

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Speaker 5: see who eat the most, let's.

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Speaker 2: Go you on that you are on that list of

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Speaker 6: F like just.

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Speaker 5: But you, but I got this for you, Labar, the

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Speaker 5: one who has the meanest name of all time mean

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Speaker 5: Joe Green is the nicest dude you can So.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to touch on this because this

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Speaker 3: You a nice dude like you're you're.

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Speaker 2: A personable dude, and I feel like, for what it

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Speaker 2: stated that just because you were what you were as

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Speaker 3: I got to.

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Speaker 5: Come on because for thirteen years in the National Football League,

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Speaker 5: when I was moving and roaming around, if you didn't say,

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Speaker 5: excuse me, mister shop man, please get an autograph? You

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Speaker 5: didn't give that'll give me this, give me that, give

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Speaker 5: me got choke mess around the color folks, please beyond

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Speaker 5: with that. If you ain't got no home training, I

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Speaker 5: hate to bother you. If you hate asparagus, do you

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, right.

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Speaker 5: I just it's like people didn't didn't know how to

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Speaker 5: took a picture with you. Excuse me, the shopping man,

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Speaker 5: please get a picture. Shit, it was shocking to hear

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Speaker 5: excuse me, please, And in may I you see what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Just one more, just one more, just one more? You

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Speaker 3: know what I say? Hey, Hey, just one more.

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Speaker 5: This was mine, picky. You get the pick, and it

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Speaker 5: can't to you because you just got one. You know,

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Speaker 5: I went. I went with one for customer. When they

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Speaker 5: one more, pick the one I want you to pick.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna pick it.

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Speaker 3: It's the best one ever, mister Sad.

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Speaker 6: But mister Sad, just one.

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Speaker 5: More, just one more, I used to telling, since you

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Speaker 5: telling which one more.

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Speaker 3: Then you get it one person other than yourself.

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Speaker 6: You get the picking and the ku dog I stopped.

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Speaker 2: I never understood that, Like, why if you're gonna ask

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Speaker 2: for autograph, how are you gonna speak for everybody else so.

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Speaker 5: They have to give you that one day that everybody

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Speaker 5: had to sign the trading right, that was my one route.

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Speaker 5: Do not yell my name, and do not yell one more. Oh,

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Speaker 5: I'm leaving right now. Just sit down and shut up

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Speaker 5: all out like this. I'm gonna I'm gonna do my damnage,

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Speaker 5: but there's no way I'm gonna satisfy everybody. So you

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Speaker 5: might want to get back your ass and get glad

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Speaker 5: because I'm not caring when I'm walking out of here

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Speaker 5: in ten minutes. So keep it quiet and I'm doing

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Speaker 5: a lot fast We'll go a lot fast. Trust me

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