WEBVTT - The Biden Crime Family Hoax (with Lev Parnas) - Part One 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.000 It's funny as it is, it's so sad. This is 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.320 Russian disinformation has entered the halls of Congress, has entered 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.240 the halls of our DOJRFBI all the way up to 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.280 right now we're trying to impeach the city US president 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.600 on Russian disinformation. Tell you don't think the congressmen sitting 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.480 up there looking at the world in the face, don't 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.320 know this information. They know a lot more. They know 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.120 where everybody's and they know there is no bodies when 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.760 it comes to Joe Biden, all of those people, every 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.200 one of those has direct ties to the Kremlin. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.160 I'm John Cipher and I'm Jarie O'Shea. 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.720 I serve in the CIA's Clandestine Service for twenty eight years, 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:39.599 living undercover all around the. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.040 World, and in my thirty three years with the CIA, 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.240 I served in Africa, Asia, Europe, and the Middle East. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.639 Although we don't usually look at it this way, we 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:49.840 created conspiracies. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.280 In our operations. We got people to believe things that 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:53.040 weren't true. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.080 Now we're investigating the conspiracy theories we see in the 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:57.320 news almost every day. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.720 We'll break them down for you to determine whether they 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.200 could be real or whether we're being manipulated. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:10.240 Welcome to mission implausible. Welcome to mission implausible. Adam, How 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.480 is your book coming on ancient Assyria. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.480 I'm having a blast learning about how people thought in 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.920 the ancient Middle East, and so I'm writing this book 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.000 about a group of people from what's now northern Iraq, 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.600 but they had moved to central Turkey, and they left 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.640 tens of thousands of letters on clay tablets that we 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.800 can now read. And it really has this amazing view 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.880 into day to day life in four thousand years ago. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.360 And there's just a lot of constant concern about what 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.520 these people are saying, what those people are saying. There's spies. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.520 Like the more you learn about the ancient world, the 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.839 more you're like, we really don't change very much. 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:46.600 You should get a good writer and do a book 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:46.920 on it. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.360 I don't really know how to respond because I've been 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.800 I mean I have, I have won awards, a you know, 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:54.160 for the New Yorker. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.000 And I'm very sorry the Jerry treat you like this. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:57.360 It's it's really unfortunate. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.560 It's really I just worry about how you're going to 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.480 measure against all the other Assyrian books out there. 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.600 That's true. It's a crowded space. My agent has been 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.960 saying like this could break through and be like a 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.880 big hit, or well, don't. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.480 Forget the little people once you're a big shot. 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.600 That's actually I spent last night with Irving Finkel, and 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.520 I that is name dropping. But if you go on 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:21.160 Google Irving Finkel, big white, Santa Claus Beard, crazy white hair, 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.880 brilliant scholar of ancient Assyria. And when you walk around 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.240 with Irving Finkel seventy something years old, it's like walking 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:32.000 around with Brad Pitt. People love this guy. The streets 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.680 were Yale University, so it's an academic world, but he's 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.120 recognized on the street. People come up, they get nervous, 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.280 They're like, you're my favorite of Syriologists. 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.360 So, John, we're lucky today to have a real conspirator. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.280 Why don't you tell us about Lev Parnas well. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:50.080 Lev Parnas is a Soviet born American businessman and a 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:54.240 former associate of Rudy Giuliani's. Along with Juliani in Ukraine, 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.080 Parnas was involved in creating the false Biden Ukraine conspiracy theory, 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.600 which was part of the Trump campaign's effort to damage 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.200 Joe Biden before the election. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.480 And yeah, there's no way around this. Lev was convicted 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.320 of wire fraud in twenty twenty two. Prosecutors say, among 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.480 other things, he legally funneled money from a Russian oligarch, 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:20.079 Andre Moraviev to mostly pro Trump US politicians, and Rudy Giuliani, 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.200 not charged with the crime here, accepted five hundred thousand 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.000 dollars as part of this scam, by the way, and 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.080 that's something he's copped. Two and Lev was sentenced to 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.280 prison in October of twenty twenty one, did his time, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:33.320 and he's now out. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.800 And before we start, let's listen to a little bit 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.040 of his testimony under oath to Congress in March. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.600 The American people have been lied to by Donald Trump, 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.440 Rudy Giuliani, and various courts of individuals in government and 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:51.000 media positions. From November twenty eighteen to October twenty nineteen, 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.800 I was a key participant and a witness to numerous 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:57.160 efforts to prove that Joe and Hunter Biden were linked 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:01.160 to corruption in Ukraine. I found precisely zero evidence of 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.320 the Biden's corruption in Ukraine. The only information ever pushed 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.440 on the Bidens and Ukraine has come from one source, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:10.280 and one source only Russia and Russian agents. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.320 Here's a clip of Lev being interviewed by Rachel Maddow. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.920 What do you think is the main inaccuracy or the 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.680 main lie that's being told that you feel like you 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:19.760 can correct. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.920 That the President didn't know what was going on. President 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.039 Trump knew exactly what was going on. He was aware 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:31.400 of all my movements. I wouldn't do anything without the 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.800 consent of Rudy Giuliani or the President. I was on 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.360 the ground doing their work. 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.440 In terms of the President what he has said about you, 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.039 he said about you and mister Fruman, Igra Fruman, I 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.760 don't know those gentlemen. I don't know about them. I 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.200 don't know what they do. You're saying that was not 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:49.599 a true statement from the President. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.120 He lied. He knew exactly who I was, especially because 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.919 I interacted with him at a lot of events. And basically, 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.320 I mean I was with Rudy more than I mean, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:00.880 four or five days out of the week, I mean, 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.039 and I was in content constant contact with him. So 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.600 and I was with Rudy one he would speak to 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:10.279 the President plenty of times, I mean. So it's just 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.760 Luly Chris so. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.560 Today, we're really really pleased to have on the show. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.800 Lev part in us. You're famous now, right, and infamous 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:24.279 in some parts. You're a Ukrainian, Russian, American, Israeli businessman, right. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:25.719 And lots of titles. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.640 Yeah, and you're and you are at the center of 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:36.560 the whole Rudy Giuliani, Hunter Biden, conspiracy, slamazl. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.440 Right, Smilazo. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:38.960 And you're coming out with a book, right. 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:39.320 Uh. 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.080 Yeah, I just came out with a book called Shadow Diplomacy. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.480 Yeah. Well, thank you for being here. It's really courageous 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.479 what you're going through. And hope we'll get into some 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:46.719 of that. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.000 Thank you so much for having me. Guys, I look 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.400 forward to talking to you. I think we have a 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:51.719 lot of fun stuff to talk about. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.240 So, Liv, if I understand the story, you were part 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.640 of a real conspiracy, right, a conspiracy to create a 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:02.200 fake conspiracy that Joe was involved in criminal activity in 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.360 order to help the Trump campaign. Is that right? Is 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:05.120 that how you see it? 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.359 I mean, like you couldn't said any better. It was 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:11.440 a conspiracy to push a fake conspiracy to make up 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.200 an It was like, yeah. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.760 But to be clear, if you had found evidence of 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.080 Joe Biden's corruption or things like that. You would have 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.239 come forward with it, right. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.839 Oh, absolutely, no, absolutely, I mean listen, I mean it's 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.120 not like I didn't try. I mean I tried so hard. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.120 I could promise you. It wasn't the point of lack 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.599 of effort on anybody's part, not just me, but I 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.680 mean you had Devin Nunos, you had Bron Johnson, you 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.800 had Pete Sessions, you had the Rudy Julian and each 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:40.320 I mean the list goes on and on you had, 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.279 and that's not counting people that they had underneath them 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.400 doing all of the dirty working on getting so. I mean, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.440 there was no rock that was unturned, There was no 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.400 whole look to it. I mean we looked everywhere. And 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.200 trust me, I'll tell you if there was even a 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.800 stitch of evidence that you would have known about it 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.279 way before I got arrested, way before Trump got impeached, 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:58.839 way before. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.880 So manipula election based on a snipe hunt. 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.280 Yeah, basically, yeah, I mean you could wrap it up 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:05.760 like that. 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:10.200 We you mentioned in your testimony recently that Russian intelligence 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.920 was involved or supportive or aware of this effort in 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.400 some means, the effort to invent dirt on the Bidens. 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.080 How specifically do you think the Russians were aware of 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:20.160 or involved. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.960 They were running the show. See a lot of people 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:26.920 don't understand this conspiracy, this notion, this propaganda started the 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.840 Russians started spreading this back in twenty fifteen, you know. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.360 And this is after like we were told that actually 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.840 Hunter was compromised and his laptop was compromised somewhere around 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.240 fourteen fifteen when he was in Kazakhstan and when they 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.000 were able to get so. Right after that is when 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.640 this conspiracy theory started coming up and started being pushed 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.000 by Russians, through Ukrainians, through Russians and other sources. But 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.640 they were basically debunked at every angle and constantly getting debunked, 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.720 and they didn't find any light until that faithful night 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.760 when we were sitting with Rudy at the Grand Havanna 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.520 Room having drinks. I don't drink, but Rudy and Ego 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.640 getting slushed and cigars. I was having my green tea 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.000 like usual, and he got to call from bar Schwartz, 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.400 and Barchwartz started telling him about all this Ukraine stuff, 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.160 and like usual, Rudy would sit down and still asten 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.400 on everything that happened. It didn't matter if it was Trump, 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:17.360 the State Department. 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.400 So Eagor Furman was your he's your business partner, yep. 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:21.880 And maybe if you could just give us a word 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:22.800 on who Bartchwartz is. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.920 Marchwartz was a I don't know if he was an 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.920 ex FBI agent or if he but I definitely had 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.560 some sort of police or some sort of law in 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:34.240 his background. And he was working for Rudy as an investigator, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.400 so he had some whistleblowers in Ukraine. They were feeding 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.840 him information. At that point, Rudy was looking for the 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.360 man the Ford Ledger because they thought it was a 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.120 fake man for Leiser Ledger, and also looking for the 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:49.040 DNC servers which were supposedly stashed in Ukraine somewhere. So 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.240 Rudy was on those two crazy rabbit holes and then 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:52.920 we come in. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.280 So things just I want to clarify if I got 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.800 this right. You're saying that the Russians knew in advanced 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.160 what was on Hunter Biden's laptop because they bugged it 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.280 or they got into it in Kazakhstan mouch earlier. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.040 Right, it was compromised, So the. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.160 Russians actually knew about the laptop and what was on 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:12.920 it before even telling Rudy about it. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.360 Absolutely, and we were told about the laptop rumors early on, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:20.040 in a way going back way to February of twenty nineteen, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.239 was the first mention of the laptop from Yuri Lieutenco, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.400 then General Prosecutor of Ukraine. But we were looking for it. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.320 But then a few months later we had a brick wall. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.199 We realized that nobody that we were speaking to had 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.200 any access to the laptop. That the only access if 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.800 there was a laptop or a hard drive, it existed 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.600 with fsb or Zchewski, the CEO of Barisma, and that 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.560 was confirmed to us later on in June and the 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:50.000 meeting we had with Vitally Prusse at Chipriani's and he 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.480 told us basically that was a gentleman that got it. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.200 Hunter Biden the job with Barisma. He was very close 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.280 friends with Devin Archer, and he told us that the 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.480 story about him getting Dorge to being in Conzak start 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.920 getting very drunk and compromise. Then his laptop was taken 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.720 and there were copies being made, and he made it 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.920 very clear. And this is the important part because his 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.840 heart is Rudy pressed because of what was on that laptop. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.960 The most damaging things that he told us was on 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.120 there were basically compromise pictures of him with females and 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:23.679 drugs and stuff like that, and nothing about financial criminality 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.360 or legality, because that's what we were looking for. But 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.000 we still press to get the laptop because even pictures 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:30.960 of you know, obviously would make a big stink in 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:31.920 the election time. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:40.120 Let's take a breather and be back in a moment, and 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:45.280 we're back. So, a conspiracy is a group of people 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.160 who get together, who come up with a plan to 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.880 do something, something nefarious, and you know there's a conspiracy 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:53.760 with the Russian. So I just want to quick run 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.199 through a roster of people I think you've bumped into 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:01.200 and Rudy depended on, Rudy Giuliani depended on, and some 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.400 of the people in Trump world, because they keep saying 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.400 there's no Russian collusion, there's no Russian, Russia, Russian, and 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.680 let's do it. Let's do it, okay. Andre Derkosh, son 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:14.240 of a KGB officer under US sanctions for operating decades 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.679 long as a Russian disinformation agent, a guy to the 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.200 name of Pavel Fuks. He's a Russian agent of influence 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.040 in oligarch I. Guess he paid Rudy Giuliani hundreds of 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.839 thousands of dollars. Then there's a guy called Andre Telishenko. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:35.319 Right Books hired him to conduct disinformation campaign. He's under 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.440 sanctioned by the FBI for collaborating with Russian disinformation Demitro 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:44.679 Firtas pro Kremlin oligarch Russian intelligence ties. He's awaiting extradition 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.320 to the US for collaborating in the Russian disinformation campaign. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:54.760 Constantine Cooling Derkosh associate sanctioned by the US right for 0:11:54.840 --> 0:12:00.760 spreading Russian disinformation. He and Rudy Giuliani told these two brothers, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.240 the Munger brothers, US citizens, that they had the goods 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.240 and they gave them a million dollars and then they 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:11.079 basically embezzled the money and they're being sold. Alexander Davinski 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:16.960 he's up on treason charges in Ukraine. Igor He confessed 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.320 and was convicted in Ukraine of treason for collaborate in 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:25.280 my Russia Seymour Kisslin Russian Kazak. According to Inner pol 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.160 And the US, he used Juliani's firms to launder Russian 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:33.920 money in the US. Andre Marief, I think you know, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:40.160 and Andre Kukushin boat Russian oligarch's charged with making illegal 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.679 campaign contributions inside of the US. Something that you're connected with. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.040 And then finally with Ranifort olig der Pashke is a 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:51.160 Russian oligarch, and Constantine Kalimnik, who is a Russian intelligence 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:56.200 officer working with Juliani and with Paul Mannifort, Trump's campaign manager, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:00.400 and Manafort has confessed publicly to passing him internal stif So. 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.319 It walks like a duck, It quacks like a duck, 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.160 It fucks like a dock, It has duck DNA and 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:07.439 tastes great with plum sauce. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.080 How do you know how ducks fucked, Carrie, I'm. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.400 Just saying this smells like a Russian conspiracy. To me, 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.000 I went on too long, but I wanted to underline 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.720 just how Russian this fucking not only Russian, but Russian 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.960 intelligence disinformation this world is coming out of. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.679 I mean, as funny as it is, it's so sad. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:30.800 This is Russian disinformation has entered the halls of Congress, 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.679 has entered the halls of our doj R. FBI all 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.120 the way up to right now, we're trying to impeach 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.160 the U sitting US president on Russian disinformation. That's play. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:41.720 I mean, it's out there. I mean look at what 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:43.679 you look at you you just read it down. You 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.800 don't think the congressman sitting up there looking at the 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.440 world in the face don't know this information. They know 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.880 a lot more. They know that where everybody's and they 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.880 know there is no bodies when it comes to Joe Biden. 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.400 And that's the problem. That's that's where they're hold. There's 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.360 a lot of ifs, buts, and it's crazy, but yes, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.280 all of those people that you mentioned, every one of 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.280 those has direct ties to the Kremlin. Don't forget. I 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.480 was involved in the negotiations, conversations with Nicholas Maduro and 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.319 then Guido in Spain. I was also intricate in introducing 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.440 and starting the relationship between the Turkish president Erdigon and 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.840 President Trump. You know, I was involved in his inauguration. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.320 I was involved prior to that. I've seen a lot. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.680 The world needs to understand. The say just about Ukraine, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.720 this individual is a monster. He's a narcissist. He only 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:33.200 cares about himself. He idolizes these dictators because he wants 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.160 to be a dictator. He wants to rule with an 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.800 iron fist. He wants to be able to say and 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.720 do what he wants, and he wants everybody to fall 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.200 in line. So the world needs to know the truth. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.640 And I'm finally humbled and happy that Congress was able 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.600 to get me up to because just think about how 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.000 hard the Republicans tried. Think about just comment says wise, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.440 even if you know nothing about law, nothing about anything. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.840 The two people that started this whole thing, not including 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.920 President Trump, was Rudy Giuliani and myself the collectors of it, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:02.720 and then passed it on to Fox, and it was 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.760 Sahannity Solomon and then you know, the halls of Congress, 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:08.120 and then it went spread everywhere. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.320 How did you get to know Rudy Giuliani? And someone 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.640 asked a question after one of our recent podcasts about 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.240 the Hunter Biden laptop, how exactly did he get the 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.240 laptop from the guy in Delaware? Like how did they 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:18.840 know each other? 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.280 I think, you know, it's not that difficult to find 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.360 a Trump supporter, you know that's willing to, you know, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.800 play ball in whatever you want to do. On the flight. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.840 When I got arrested, Bill Barr and everybody knew we 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.640 were flying to We were supposed to meet with this 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.280 ex CEO Alexander forgot his last name, to pick up 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.560 the hard drive, and we were supposed to do a big, 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.640 blockbuster interview from Vienna with Victor Schoke and the hard 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.800 drive and Rudy and Sean Handy was going to have it. 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:45.760 I mean, I put the tweets out, I put the 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.840 text messages out, and all of these Congress people understand 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.240 and know That's why I was arrested. Because Bill Barr 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.120 understood that this was rushing this information. He understood that 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.160 Rudy didn't care. He was pushing Russian this information. And 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.200 if you remember when I got arrested, that was just 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.640 when the whistleblower came out and named me and Igor 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.840 as Rudy's henchman on the ground in Ukraine. So Bill 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:11.040 Barr understood that once I get subpoena, even though Trump's 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.800 lawyers were making a big stink, he understood that eventually 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:15.640 I'm going to have to testify or go to prison. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.080 And he knew that if I testify, thinking I'm telling 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.200 the truth, I'm only going to be showing how corrupt 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.720 Trump is and how much was spreading. So Bill Barr 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.320 thought he was going to be smart and bury me 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.840 with the information and make me look like the scapegoat. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.240 What he didn't realize that Trump was not going to stop. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.720 That Trump was going to continue even more instead and 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.400 now go directly to the Russian disinformation and make it 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.200 even worse. And that's when that's when Bill Barr jumped ship. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.800 They knew everything. I mean, they knew what was going on. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.720 And if you see what I was arrested for and 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:48.960 then what I went to prison for two different things. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.400 We named that huge list of Russian disinformation officers that 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.120 was funneling information through you and Judiani. So you had 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.600 a really powerful testimony at the house in front of 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:04.240 committit and you name names, you said, Ron Johnson knew, Yes, absolutely, 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.520 Comber knew, and Pete Sessions new. Did they all know? 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.200 I'll just ask you straight out, if you're getting information 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.760 from Russian disinformation officers? Did they realize that? 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.000 Yeah? Yeah, you know how it works. I mean they haven't, 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:20.760 I mean of course they know. I mean this, all 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.719 of the this stuff never even got vetted they wouldn't 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.800 even vett it because they knew if they would vett it, 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.280 they would come back, you know, not good. So they 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.520 didn't even give a chance. I mean, just think about 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.199 I would get a text message from Victor Shoken with 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.720 some piece of paper, and right from there it would 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.400 go to Ron Johnson, it would go to Devin new News, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:43.800 it would go to Fox News within an hour, no vetting, 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.960 no checking out to see what for you, But because 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.560 it fit the narrative. So do you hear Senator Ron 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:52.440 Johnson screaming, Oh, this is crazy, he's a criminal. He's lying. No, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.720 he knows I'm telling the truth. Because if any one 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.600 of them pick up a stink and respond to me, 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.959 they give light to the truth. And that's one thing 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.680 they don't want to do. They'll argue with anybody else. 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.840 He'll go argue with the sixteen year old girl. He'll 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.080 attack an eighty five year old grandmother that doesn't agree 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.320 with what he said, but he will never Just think 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.760 about it, guys, find me one tweet, one response from 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.200 Trump or any of them to any of the troth 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.359 and again not to say that they might call me 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:20.160 a liar, no, but actual response to my accusations because 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.000 it's very easy to go on TV and lie like 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.239 they do because there's no consequences. But I challenge any 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.000 one of them to get up there just like either 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.760 under oath and from the whole world, and be able 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:31.560 to tell the truth. 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.520 We got to take a break now and we'll be 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.320 back in just a minute. 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.359 Glad to have everybody back. Let's go back down the 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:43.920 rabbit hole. 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.240 Did Mike Pompeo have any role in this? Mean he 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.760 was a Secretary of State? Action is involved in trying 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:51.000 to get rid of Masha Gyovanovitch. 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.040 He wasn't. That's actually no, he wasn't. Let me tell 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:58.040 you the truth. No he wasn't. That's it's a misconception. Actually, Pompeo, 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.800 if you guys obviously know he was Kulch brothers. You know, 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.200 he wasn't part of the Trump regime. Even when Trump 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.760 got him and put him into office. Trump really liked 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.960 the way he looked and he fit the role more 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.879 than anything else. But what happened with Marie Ivanovich, he 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.360 actually was the opposite. The reason it took so long 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.040 to fire her. Trump try to fire. 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.800 Her like fourteen you can explain who she is. 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.160 Yeah, Marie Ivanovich is the US ambassador, was the US 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.119 ambassador to Ukraine. She was, you know, one of the 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.400 top fighters for anti corruption and was doing a great 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.800 job al Org. I think she's been a US ambassador 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:32.880 all over the world for over twenty twenty five years, 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.200 very high standards there. Will started becoming a rumor because 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.520 she was such an anti corruption person that people in Ukraine, 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.920 especially powerful individuals, wanted to get her out of her post. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.639