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Speaker 1: From them Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.

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Speaker 2: Wow, how many years ago was it when we got

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Speaker 2: to know Ardie Abrams on Glee?

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Speaker 1: Of course?

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Speaker 2: Kevin McHale, do you still get people asking you like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, a miracle happened.

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Speaker 1: You're out of the wheelchair now single day?

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Speaker 3: Do you really?

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Speaker 1: Every day?

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Speaker 4: Kind of makes you look like a lawyre.

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Speaker 5: Or just a really good actor. Actors are the worst.

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Speaker 5: You see, how we can justify anything, I can make

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Speaker 5: it about ourselves.

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Speaker 2: But you could be with us, Like when we apply

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Speaker 2: from New York to uh, let's say Miami, you could

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Speaker 2: get on first in your wheelchair because people believe it,

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Speaker 2: and then it's the miracle flight and they all get

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Speaker 2: off the flight without the wheelchair.

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Speaker 5: In Io, when we started Glee, when we started doing press,

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Speaker 5: I did get the extra large rooms that were made

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Speaker 5: for actual chairs. I was like, you guys, give this

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Speaker 5: to somebody who needs it. This is not I am so.

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Speaker 1: Sorry to be the one to tell you.

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Speaker 2: Check in to a hotel room and you could you

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Speaker 2: go actually roll your wheelchair into the shower if you

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Speaker 2: wanted to, and if someone rang the doorbell, a light

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Speaker 2: would flash the party room. You did well Kevin, You've

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Speaker 2: got so much going on. I want to get to

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Speaker 2: all of it. Of course, your co host with Jenna

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Speaker 2: on That's what you really missed? The Glee recap podcast

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Speaker 2: and right here on the iHeart Network.

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Speaker 1: Thanks you keep it in the fam. I like that.

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Speaker 2: And you guys just wrapped up your fourth season and

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Speaker 2: the podcast is what yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Yes today, yesterday? I don't know what day it is,

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Speaker 5: but yes, we got through four seasons of Glee. Not

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Speaker 5: everybody did, but but but we did for a second time,

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Speaker 5: and we're really enjoying it. It's been a really really

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Speaker 5: fun experience. We've been I think surprised by how much

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Speaker 5: we've been enjoying it. And getting to interview people who

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Speaker 5: worked in front of the camera and behind the camera

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Speaker 5: and sort of like a group therapy session every week.

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Speaker 5: It's been really nice.

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Speaker 2: And I love hearing that for you. I mean, a podcast,

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Speaker 2: unlike what we're doing now, you can take time with that.

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Speaker 2: You can you can let things open up and hear like,

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Speaker 2: our interview is almost over.

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Speaker 1: I hate that, That's right, you know.

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Speaker 5: I imagine though if I was cord overstreaked, the interview would

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Speaker 5: probably be thirty minutes long.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, family comes to visit us all the time.

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Speaker 1: You don't come to visit us all the time.

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Speaker 5: Right now, I feel like Cord has a residency. I

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Speaker 5: don't know, Like, how do I get to be every time?

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Speaker 5: Every time I see Cord, it's like, oh, yeah, it

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Speaker 5: was just with Elvis. Really my phone is my phone's here,

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Speaker 5: it's not ringing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, from now on you you will be first

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Speaker 2: to be invited because here, I gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: When I'm with Cord, we're usually drinking, so I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I guess there's more about Core than it does about us.

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Speaker 1: Well no, yeah, all of us.

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Speaker 2: But Cord does a lot of impressions, but you actually

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Speaker 2: do a Chord impression, do you true?

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Speaker 5: I'm no, Cord is like the master of impressions. I

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Speaker 5: would force him to do the impressions.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah he does.

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Speaker 5: I would get us in trouble, like I anytime you

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Speaker 5: would do Christopher walking, I would be losing it in scenes.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I am.

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Speaker 5: I'm a Cord instigator. So I'm it's probably not good

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Speaker 5: to have us in the same place at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just a.

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Speaker 5: Massive fan of it. So I get it. I get

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Speaker 5: why you love him, I get why he's family. He's

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Speaker 5: the best.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, if he's turning us on, Kevin

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Speaker 2: McHale is here and we're about to talk about Wow,

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Speaker 2: his soon to be stage presents in the twenty fifth

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Speaker 2: Annual Putnam County Spelling Be one of my favorite shows

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Speaker 2: of all time.

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Speaker 1: You seem nervous. What's wrong with that?

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Speaker 5: A live show? I'm not like you. You're all used

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Speaker 5: to a live show. You do this every day, your veterans,

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Speaker 5: you know, the live show. I do a podcast for

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Speaker 5: that very reason. We can edit it, you can.

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Speaker 5: We have our amazing producer, Sam's here now. She can

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's good to live in a life where you they

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Speaker 2: can fix all your problems in post right.

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Speaker 5: Yes, but that's right to be. It's like you can

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Speaker 2: You want, and I'm sure you never did, so you're good. No, never,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get back to I'm want to get back

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Speaker 2: to the podcast. You're very interesting. You're talking about how

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Speaker 2: you just wrapped up talking about season four and now

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Speaker 2: you're going to start talking about season five. Of course,

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Speaker 2: season five is the season where we're Corey at Monteth

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Speaker 2: like then and how you've all been processing it together,

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Speaker 2: because you guys are all still pretty close right up

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Speaker 2: to current day times. I mean, where are you with that?

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Speaker 2: And how how are you going to approach this on

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Speaker 2: saying it because I'm here. The iHeart team you know

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Speaker 2: around us has been very very supportive this entire time

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Speaker 2: in terms of do whatever you want, make this show

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Speaker 2: so I think approaching these episodes coming up, we're being

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Speaker 2: very considerate of that, considerate of considerate of our feelings.

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Speaker 2: We don't know how we're going to feel going into it,

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Speaker 2: it seem a certain way, if that makes sense, and no,

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Speaker 2: And you know, Cord, you've talked to a lot of us.

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Speaker 2: We're all very close, all.

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Speaker 5: Very protective of each other, and so that is helpful

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Speaker 5: we want this to look like? And that's very nice.

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Speaker 3: I wonder how many shows are as close as you

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's normal. I just know it's

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Speaker 5: what it is. I think when you've created something that

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Speaker 5: through hard times, there's a little trauma bonding as well.

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Speaker 5: But it is again, it's it's it is really nice

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Speaker 1: Well, Gandhi, Danielle, when this show's done, you will never

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Speaker 1: hear from me again. That's right, I believe you will. Chord,

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Speaker 1: you've got this hard on for Cord. I didn't mean

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Speaker 4: Okay, So you guys are about to talk about Corey

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Speaker 4: it's damn, this is coincidental.

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Speaker 5: No, we we make jokes about a curse, which makes

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Speaker 5: a lot of people uncomfortable. Yeah, we've said some things.

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Speaker 5: Gets really quiet like no, no, you understand if we

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Speaker 5: sad because it's insane. It is really crazy. I don't

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, it is just a lot of horrible coincidences and accidents,

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Speaker 5: and things happen. I think things happen on other shows

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Speaker 5: But I just think, you know, a lot of unfortunate,

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Speaker 4: You're not sprinkling like holy water on yourself every day

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Speaker 5: No, I do quite the opposite. Every time I get

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Speaker 2: at the Kennedy family, they say they're cursed. Well, it

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it doesn't serve anybody to I

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Speaker 2: So talking with Kevin McHale, of course, about to be

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Speaker 2: starring in the twenty fifth Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite favorite stage plays shows of all time.

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Speaker 1: You see the original?

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, But Jesse Tyler Ferguson. You've actually been working

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Speaker 1: Have you not? I've spoken to him a little bit

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Speaker 5: He is coming through. He's too rich to be doing that.

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Speaker 5: Modern Family has syndicated a billion times over. He can't

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Speaker 5: stoop down to our level. He's been very helpful. I

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Speaker 5: just so excited. It's very scary to like step into

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Speaker 5: a show all those people I don't know if people

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Speaker 2: We'll congratulations, break break all of your legs, Thank you

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Speaker 2: back absolutely. How did you get that out of there?

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Speaker 5: I haven't seen no idea, But it was in my

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Speaker 5: Well, Jenna and I have been co parenting it because

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Speaker 5: helped us use it part of our annual like snixs

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Speaker 5: That doesn't matter. Oh, I know it was in my garage.

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Speaker 2: Well, the good news, it's one last thing we had

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you something else about Kevin McHale. And

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how we made it out, I don't know we

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Speaker 2: Kevin McHale, please, you're a national icon. Nicall's usually dead anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we made it out though a kid growing up in Texas?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they get cars or electricity, we get out of there. So, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: when does twenty fifth Annual Putnam County Spelling to be

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Speaker 2: And I bet you're gonna you're gonna kill it, You're

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Speaker 5: It's a great time. I've been having the most fun

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Speaker 2: It's an amazing, amazing script. It's an amazing show. Everyone

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Speaker 2: and that's what you really missed the Glee Recap podcast.

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Speaker 1: I just got how you got the title and they

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Speaker 2: Eventually, it's the beginning of every Glee and here.

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Speaker 1: That's right for how you really are a fan? Thank you, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not there to spike your little booty.

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Speaker 2: You'll be very bad.

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Speaker 1: He walked in, but even before.

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Speaker 2: The interview started he was bitching him, moaning about how

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Speaker 1: We need even get to Darren.

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Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, if you're a big fan, I know you are,

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Speaker 2: the Glee Recap podcast. It's called and that's what you

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Speaker 2: and make sure you'd listen in with Kevin mckillnon and Jenna.

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for having me. It's always great

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