Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya red An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello, everybody. We are scrubbing in in. Today's episode is
Speaker 2: a very special one because we have a very exciting
Speaker 2: guest scrubbing in today.
Speaker 3: We have Royalty here with us.
Speaker 2: We have Gray's Anatomy Royalty, and we did not wear scrubs,
Speaker 2: but that's because we I want to get a cute
Speaker 2: photo of us together because I wasn't here last time
Speaker 2: she was here.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have to look. I meant to look
Speaker 3: for her head pillow. Oh shoot, that's okay, I can
Speaker 3: do it really quick before she comes in.
Speaker 2: Well, we know her as doctor Joe Wilson in Gray's Anatomy,
Speaker 2: and Tanya thinks of her as a friend that she
Speaker 2: will one day be watching Grey's Anatomy with.
Speaker 3: But I thought we were long lost sister friends. But
Speaker 3: we did never see each other again after that first
Speaker 3: time she scrubbed in.
Speaker 2: So she scrubbed in again during the pandemic we did.
Speaker 2: It was just over zoom.
Speaker 3: It was over zoom.
Speaker 2: So we're very excited to welcome back Camilla Ludington. Yes, wow,
Speaker 2: I just want to tell y'all that she walked in
Speaker 2: the door and looked directly at me and said, you
Speaker 2: weren't here last time. She remember she remembered my absence.
Speaker 2: I did, thank you. Yes, that means a lot here.
Speaker 3: Both of you. I am excited too. I'm excited that
Speaker 3: you remembered me too.
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember.
Speaker 1: I feel like I remember a lot of people like
Speaker 1: I remember. I feel like I know I can recognize,
Speaker 1: like people from an entertainment weekly that have interviewed us.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: When we've been on the show this long, we tend
Speaker 1: to see the same people all the time. Not that
Speaker 1: I've seen you odd guys all the time, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, I would just like you to know that.
Speaker 2: After that, I guess y'all ended the conversation, or maybe
Speaker 2: it was after the podcast, Tanya was like, we should
Speaker 2: watch an episode together. Grace nodding together, and You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And Tanya told me, I'm like, Tanya.
Speaker 3: She wanted to do a watch party with us.
Speaker 2: We could. I would totally do a watch party.
Speaker 3: And Becca goes, I doubt she's.
Speaker 2: Nice of her. That feels like something I would say
Speaker 2: to somebody who wanted, like back in the Bachelor days,
Speaker 2: don't watch a Bachelor because I like the Bachelor.
Speaker 1: I'll watch one of your episodes with you, guys. If
Speaker 1: you watch one of mine, you can get behind the
Speaker 1: scenes commentary.
Speaker 2: That's great. We can just bed a long time since
Speaker 2: I was on the Bachelor, but behind the scenes juice. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll give you juice if you give me juice. But
Speaker 2: I feel like your NDA is probably active and mine
Speaker 2: is a longe. Mine's probably a little more active. Yeah,
Speaker 2: your is a little more tight tightly like that idea.
Speaker 2: It would be kind of fun. Yeah, do we get
Speaker 2: right into anatomy I got Okay, I'm going to start
Speaker 2: with it's.
Speaker 3: A lot to cover because since you've been bad, since
Speaker 3: you've been gone, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, it's been a million things.
Speaker 1: And I'm excited by the way I purposely had me
Speaker 1: come today because I'm tired, especially if it's like an
Speaker 1: hour long podcast. I'm tired of being like I can't
Speaker 1: tell you guys. I want to be able to like
Speaker 1: explain the behind the scenes what like that happened, you
Speaker 1: know for this finale, because it was really fun in
Speaker 1: our table read and be able to talk about it.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm extra excited.
Speaker 2: We're very excited about that too. Because that would have
Speaker 2: been knowing how much went on. That would have been
Speaker 2: a very hard talk if it wasn't out yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to be able to talk about
Speaker 1: all those things too.
Speaker 2: Okay, tell you what did you want to get into.
Speaker 4: Well, there was a lot of stuff that we covered
Speaker 4: when you were here last time that I remember what
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: So here we have a little audio.
Speaker 2: Let me hear.
Speaker 5: This is a clip from last night, April first, twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is it about Link that you like?
Speaker 1: Because I've heard fan feedback and I'm wondering if it's
Speaker 1: the same reason.
Speaker 4: I like that he's more mature and like, I feel
Speaker 4: like he's better with the kids. I knew you're going
Speaker 4: to say that, and I call him Joham de Luca.
Speaker 4: Feels like he's just focused on his career and he's
Speaker 4: going to be like the next like make Dreamy or
Speaker 4: whatever he is, And I just feel like he can't
Speaker 4: give Meredith like all that she needs. And I think
Speaker 4: Link is like past that phase and he just wants like,
Speaker 4: am I talking.
Speaker 2: About Link for Meredith?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my gosh, wow, I actually kind
Speaker 1: of forgot that that ever happened.
Speaker 2: I know they were competing for her at the correct
Speaker 2: I that's no memory of Link and Meredith.
Speaker 3: You don't remember this was twenty nineteen, right, did they ever?
Speaker 2: Like? I don't even think they care.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think they can till Luca won that
Speaker 3: he won the battle.
Speaker 1: He won the battle. Yeah, that is a mill that
Speaker 1: just that. That's a different world on our show.
Speaker 3: And then there was also.
Speaker 1: This they said that you guys are crazy on any
Speaker 1: superfans and that they said that, do you want to
Speaker 1: honestly know what they said?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, so they said.
Speaker 1: That at first a podcast started out with you guys
Speaker 1: discussing Gray's anatomy, and then it's become about your dating
Speaker 1: life and that you guys are terrible at dating.
Speaker 3: So I haven't remember saying that.
Speaker 2: How did I get looped into terrible at dating? We
Speaker 2: were we both were. I didn't date, Yes, you did?
Speaker 2: Who told me that information?
Speaker 3: These were your friends that listened?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Okay, okay, yeah that's really funny.
Speaker 3: So we have an update. Okay, both in committed relationships now,
Speaker 3: and I'm.
Speaker 2: Very happy to hear this. Yeah, but I've been in
Speaker 2: my relationship. I was in my relationship for like over
Speaker 2: a year when when she was on the podcast.
Speaker 3: That's true, but we didn't know about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't public. I've been with my I've been
Speaker 2: I have a girlfriend and we've been together for five years. Amazing.
Speaker 2: I've gotten better at dating. That's really funny. I don't
Speaker 2: remember saying that we have one more thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if there's any element potentially hurting Alex, it's
Speaker 1: like doomsday on my Twitter.
Speaker 3: I hope, I really hope you guys, like really just
Speaker 3: make it the long haul.
Speaker 2: I really think we I really I hope so too.
Speaker 1: That did.
Speaker 3: That's just sad.
Speaker 2: That actually is devastating to hear.
Speaker 3: I know, I was listening back to the old episode
Speaker 3: and I was like, wow, so much has changed in
Speaker 3: the show and in real life.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy.
Speaker 3: Isn't that nuts?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean it's not surprising because when I go back,
Speaker 1: like once in a while, this is what I do.
Speaker 1: I don't need to hate admitting this, okay, but once
Speaker 1: in a while I'll be like, you know, there's nothing
Speaker 1: on TV, and I'm like, let me just go back
Speaker 1: and like watch an episode right from like an early
Speaker 1: season that I was on because I get tweeted stuff
Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: picture this. I have no idea what this is from.
Speaker 1: Like that's how long I've been on the show. And
Speaker 1: so I'll go back and watch an episode and it's
Speaker 1: so different. It feels like, it feels like the show
Speaker 1: has had so many iterations. It's just like a different time,
Speaker 1: different world, and so many different ways. So it's weird
Speaker 1: to even hear me say that, because I'm like.
Speaker 3: No, Alex, I know, I feel none of us saw
Speaker 3: that coming.
Speaker 2: No, that was heartbreaking. Yeah, well yeah it was rough.
Speaker 2: It was rough in a letter, Yeah, that's brutal. It
Speaker 2: felt rough.
Speaker 3: It was rough.
Speaker 2: I will say something else that felt rough, And to
Speaker 2: be honest, I just this past week have caught up,
Speaker 2: like fully caught up. Did you watch the finale? Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I had a very I was. I was a little
Speaker 2: mad at the Meredith Gray episode, the goodbye I was
Speaker 2: the farewell.
Speaker 1: It just felt like because it didn't feel as huge
Speaker 1: as she was going to. I think it's I think
Speaker 1: I did see those comments on Twitter, but I think
Speaker 1: the reason why is because a we knew that she
Speaker 1: was going to do another episode this season. We already
Speaker 1: knew she was going to be in the finale, and
Speaker 1: she's voiceovering every episode, and I just think that of
Speaker 1: any character she's not, it doesn't feel like she's really gone.
Speaker 2: I guess to us, I get it now. The audience
Speaker 2: needed to feel more. I think the trailers for it,
Speaker 2: the lead up for it felt like so emotional and
Speaker 2: heavy that when the episode got here and like there
Speaker 2: we wrote our own toast saying farewell to Mari's Gray,
Speaker 2: we felt like we didn't get what we wanted she.
Speaker 3: Deserves, so we gave our own sendoffs. Yeah right, but
Speaker 3: now I get it. Now, I get it.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize she was gonna be narrating the episodes too,
Speaker 4: and I didn't realize she was going to be back.
Speaker 4: So now I guess I get it, because it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Really like no.
Speaker 1: I don't even know at the time if we could
Speaker 1: say that she was going to be back in the finale.
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm not sure if we could say that.
Speaker 1: So I feel like maybe everyone thought it was going
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, yeah, she's done and done, but
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, she's going to be back.
Speaker 2: I feel like she's going to be back all the time.
Speaker 1: Obviously no episodes are being written, ye strike, but I
Speaker 1: think she'll be back a ton of times.
Speaker 2: That's what I think. I'm going to give a spoiler
Speaker 2: alert before I give spoilers, because I never do that.
Speaker 2: I always give a spoilert after we spoil it. So
Speaker 2: I'm giving people the chance spoiler alert if you haven't watched.
Speaker 2: I'm curious your thoughts about Joe and Link Okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I can talk about all these things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have like a lot of questions too.
Speaker 1: You do.
Speaker 2: Do you have a specific question because I can talk
Speaker 2: about it. But have you wanted them together?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 2: Always? No? Okay, there was.
Speaker 1: Here's how I felt about Joe and Link. I felt
Speaker 1: and I've said this before, so this isn't like, you know, give.
Speaker 2: Us a breaking news bit that we can put that well,
Speaker 2: I will, but I'll lead it up to this.
Speaker 1: I will say it like this though in the beginning,
Speaker 1: when I originally I think that they were trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, like where do Joe go from here? After
Speaker 1: Alex right, and I actually liked the way I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously it was a devastating way to be broken up with,
Speaker 1: but what I liked about it that I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like we had shown on the show before, is that
Speaker 1: people get left and sometimes they don't get that like, hey,
Speaker 1: I to talk to you about this and say all
Speaker 1: my feelings. Sometimes you just get left and they have
Speaker 1: to figure out their own closure. So what I liked
Speaker 1: about it is that she did have that time where
Speaker 1: she had like her own you know, you know, time
Speaker 1: to herself to get her own closure. But then I
Speaker 1: knew that like maybe Jack from Stage nineteen, I don't know,
Speaker 1: if you watch that show, they have really similar backstories,
Speaker 1: maybe Link, and I just remember thinking that they had
Speaker 1: written the friendship so well that I was like, no,
Speaker 1: Like she first off, she has no friends, really like.
Speaker 3: Don't have a friends, No one likes her.
Speaker 2: That's actually sad. She doesn't how many times?
Speaker 1: So I was like, can I just keep my friend
Speaker 1: and like not sleep with them? And also, you know,
Speaker 1: not that not that we necessarily take into how the
Speaker 1: fans fell into consideration as the truth, because we piss
Speaker 1: off fans all the time in our storylines, so we can't.
Speaker 1: But like Amelia and Link, there was a huge fandom
Speaker 1: that really loved those two together. No you weren't a fan, No,
Speaker 1: you're a fan of them, not you like whatever, Okay,
Speaker 1: there were there was a big fandom that like loved
Speaker 1: them together. And then they had a kid, and I
Speaker 1: was like, let's just bring on someone new. But I
Speaker 1: think it's hard to know if you're also going to
Speaker 1: have chemistry with that person. But also I was wondering
Speaker 1: if Chris and I would have chemistry because we're friends
Speaker 1: in real life, and our friend chemistry on screen was
Speaker 1: really good. So I was not sold, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: even necessarily sold last season.
Speaker 2: On it.
Speaker 1: Because he was so hung up on Amelia that I
Speaker 1: felt like, if I'm Joe really gonna be like falling
Speaker 1: for this person that's so into somebody else, like I
Speaker 1: would shut that down, but which is kind of what
Speaker 1: they wrote. And then slowly this season I've been really convinced.
Speaker 1: And then for some reason, the way Chris played that
Speaker 1: fight with me in the finale I was in I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, like this is happening, this has to
Speaker 1: go down, like something about like the passion fight and
Speaker 1: being honest, I was sold.
Speaker 2: I personally feel like I may have leaned that way
Speaker 2: without the hot patient.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what really bothers them. Sutton Page is super
Speaker 1: cute and charming.
Speaker 3: What pissed me off?
Speaker 4: It takes some other guy coming in and swooping you
Speaker 4: off your feet for link to get it together.
Speaker 3: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you, I mean, listen, do I like it?
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to think, like.
Speaker 1: If he I think that it was less of a
Speaker 1: jealousy thing, I think it would have come out eventually.
Speaker 1: I think he was just really scared to screw up
Speaker 1: what they had, so I think it kind of comes
Speaker 1: from that, and then it was just like, Okay, now
Speaker 1: she potentially has to date somebody else. Now I have
Speaker 1: to just say it, even if it's like a bad idea.
Speaker 1: The problem is a Sam Page is super charming and shute.
Speaker 3: Is he dead?
Speaker 2: I think he died. I did not die, see, I thought.
Speaker 3: He died him.
Speaker 2: He is like he's not looking too he's like bleeding out.
Speaker 1: But we we Cliff Hanger hanged it, but it looked
Speaker 1: like I don't even know what that term is. Cliff
Speaker 1: Cliff hung it, Yeah, Cliff hung it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it appeared to me like they'd stop trying
Speaker 3: to like, yeah, there, their hands were out of the
Speaker 3: body like this.
Speaker 2: Did they call time of death? No, Okay, then you
Speaker 2: never know.
Speaker 3: On our show, they did not call time of death,
Speaker 3: but he looks very dead.
Speaker 2: It's not looking good for Sam and Joe. I'll say that.
Speaker 2: I think I can confirm that it's not looking good
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 3: Is gonna die? I think he's gonna die.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Listen, here's the thing that I have learned.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can say like, yeah, of course he's gonna die, right,
Speaker 1: But the truth is is that on our show, I
Speaker 1: feel like there's times when I really think I'm convinced
Speaker 1: about something. I'm like, this character is dying, and then
Speaker 1: they don't. There's like some miraculous thing that happens. And
Speaker 1: so until I read that script, I'm not gonna say.
Speaker 4: It because for me personally, I wanted you with Sam,
Speaker 4: you did what I'm saying. I wanted to see more
Speaker 4: of it, and I was like, what, They're just gonna
Speaker 4: kill him like that? Like this was my So here's
Speaker 4: my like it was Denny Izzy vibes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm not a I didn't like
Speaker 2: that storyline that Denny is. I feel so seen this
Speaker 2: is a battle all the time. That's not Yeah, I
Speaker 2: just wasn't like Henry devastated me more Henry and Teddy
Speaker 2: like devastated me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just yeah, I wasn't like super into that chemistry.
Speaker 2: But I know this is controversial. Yeah, yeah, I take
Speaker 2: a beating every time. I like, yeah, every time I
Speaker 2: share my truth.
Speaker 4: It's the hardest death for me on the show. But
Speaker 4: it's up there, it's up there. Really yeah, yeah yeah, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I wasn't looking for that, but I liked that he
Speaker 2: was very confident and that I was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: could totally see them dating once he's off, once his
Speaker 2: bones all he ninety three bones, once they were healed,
Speaker 2: I felt like him and Joe there was like endless potential.
Speaker 3: I did too.
Speaker 2: I was really sad think that. Yeah, I think it
Speaker 2: would have been possible. I think it only would have
Speaker 2: been possible.
Speaker 1: I think also just Sam and I had good chemistry
Speaker 1: actually as actors, like I think it just it's not
Speaker 1: something you can help, and we just had really good
Speaker 1: natural chemistry. And I joked with Chris, I'm like, someone's
Speaker 1: giving you a little your mind, and but no, he was.
Speaker 2: Just a red herring a little bit. I think that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Would you have been happy then if because I know.
Speaker 2: I'm curious.
Speaker 1: In that speech where he's like, and I'm gonna love
Speaker 1: you like, Link says that if Joe had been like
Speaker 1: too late, yeah, you would have been fine with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Oh my.
Speaker 3: God, I wanted you to be like, sorry, I got
Speaker 3: a guy to save or like guy I liked.
Speaker 2: And when the conversation started and you were like, we
Speaker 2: need to move out, like this, this is I can't
Speaker 2: like basically, I can't date because you're always there. I
Speaker 2: pack your bag, I was you were packing his bags.
Speaker 2: I was throwing him out of the house. Ye yeah,
Speaker 2: and Paul was ordered yeah yeah, I love it. And
Speaker 2: then and then you walk towards them and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh no, you're like, like what she liked?
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, even if she had dated Sam, I think
Speaker 1: that Link would have been.
Speaker 2: A what if. And I think a what if is
Speaker 2: dangerous to have in future relationships, especially when you're basically
Speaker 2: raising children together and living together.
Speaker 1: I mean that would have like I'm assuming that, you know,
Speaker 1: if if she was dating someone else, that would have
Speaker 1: to end. I can't imagine a guy is like okay
Speaker 1: with that situation. But I do think that that was unresolved.
Speaker 1: And I think that like when you're looking for the one, right,
Speaker 1: like anything in the past needs to be resolved, and
Speaker 1: they would have stayed friends, and so can I imagine
Speaker 1: her like getting drunk at some point and having kissed
Speaker 1: him and cheated on whoever she's.
Speaker 2: With, Like, yes, that's a problem. That's a good point.
Speaker 2: Like if that like those feelings are never acknowledged or
Speaker 2: dealt with and you make yourself move on. Yeah, is
Speaker 2: there always that potential?
Speaker 4: But like you guys could go to like Poundtown for
Speaker 4: a night and then be like did go to Poundtown?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They had done that already, So that's like.
Speaker 3: There done that.
Speaker 2: She went right back into town, she left Pound and
Speaker 2: then she came back to Legal Like.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it was resolved, and I do
Speaker 1: wonder if like they it's so sad because there was
Speaker 1: an episode and I think it maybe would have convinced
Speaker 1: more people too that feel this way.
Speaker 2: It was an.
Speaker 1: Episode where oh it was the episode where last season
Speaker 1: Joe and Link it's like the story book episode, like
Speaker 1: we do we're saving someone that's on stage and they're
Speaker 1: doing like sleeping beauty.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sleeping beauty or Ponzo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Durman that episode, okay, And at the end
Speaker 1: of that episode is his confession of like, hey, back
Speaker 1: in the day, I used to have feelings for you, right,
Speaker 1: And there was a version of that episode where we
Speaker 1: flashed back and we saw them working together and what
Speaker 1: that chemistry.
Speaker 2: Was like way back in the day.
Speaker 3: Why didn't they use that?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Chris and I have a joke about
Speaker 2: this because they didn't. They didn't. It's so insulting to
Speaker 2: say this about ourselves.
Speaker 1: They did a makeup test on us, right to like
Speaker 1: have us play like our younger you know, people in
Speaker 1: our twenties, and then that got scrapped, and Chris and
Speaker 1: I were like, they would like way too much cgi
Speaker 1: they would have had to like broken a budget like
Speaker 1: we Apparently we're assuming we just looked like as were
Speaker 1: younger selves. I don't know if I can say that.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it scrapped, because I was excited
Speaker 1: to see them like waiting tables back in the day,
Speaker 1: and I think for people that are on the fence
Speaker 1: about them, maybe it would have like helped kind of
Speaker 1: see what their chemistry was like and maybe yeah, more sense.
Speaker 2: I think my issue with Link, to be honest, is
Speaker 2: that it's now that especially y'all bring up the Meredith thing.
Speaker 2: It's like Meredith and Amelia, and then it was like.
Speaker 4: Joe and how everybody isn't gras Anatomy and they all
Speaker 4: just go from like one nest show in it.
Speaker 1: That's true, but most of the guys, yeah, yeah, she,
Speaker 1: I mean, she's kind. She has kind of been one
Speaker 1: of the few people on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta make your.
Speaker 1: Alex Alex Avery Jackson. And then Skyler Aston last season.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I dated him for a little bit. By
Speaker 1: the way, I loved Skyler. There's a point where I
Speaker 1: was like, can I just like these two are? But
Speaker 1: they made him so ridiculous towards the end with like
Speaker 1: a giant sex bear. But there was a point where
Speaker 1: I was like, I love Skyler, Like let's keep him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard. They just like bring people in and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, this is a great chemistry in the.
Speaker 1: Mid this is really fun, and they're like, no, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a cringy giant sex bear and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be over it, and you're like, I.
Speaker 2: Cain't never mind, oh man. But then I feel like
Speaker 2: anybody else. No, I feel like the world. She's pretty
Speaker 2: like ye consistent? Well, I mean krev was you couldn't
Speaker 2: leave correct there? I was? She was very committed. Okay,
Speaker 2: is there any world where Alex correp comes back? Now
Speaker 2: you're gonna as.
Speaker 5: He tweeted a gray mug or something and that got
Speaker 5: everybody all at Twitter on Twitter?
Speaker 2: He did he keep?
Speaker 5: I thought it was a.
Speaker 2: Grays mug or like he was drinking his coffee on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's look it up. Do you want to show
Speaker 3: you sure?
Speaker 2: He was just feeling he was wanting to stir things up.
Speaker 3: He was feeling nostaldrec Is it justin Chambers? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's not verifying, he's yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: Think that's rights might not even be his account.
Speaker 5: Then, No, I got it. I got picked up by
Speaker 5: everybody there. It is because a cappuccino thing with like
Speaker 5: the cast wrapped around it. But he captioned it with
Speaker 5: a fresh cup of Grays is what he said, so
Speaker 5: that it would imply that, oh, hey, look I'm back
Speaker 5: a fresh praise, new start. But that was a long
Speaker 5: time ago.
Speaker 1: It's weird though, because it looks like that's like from
Speaker 1: our set that's not even like a mother. Really, I
Speaker 1: want well, I mean, who knows, maybe he's had a
Speaker 1: meeting with the writers. They don't tell me anything ever.
Speaker 1: Do I think Alex Karev.
Speaker 2: Should come back? Is that my I could come back?
Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean yeah, anyone could come back.
Speaker 5: Half the dead characters have come back at some point.
Speaker 1: But I'm listen, I we we always say this. We
Speaker 1: have to be your own number one fans, right, Like
Speaker 1: I am team Joe until the end, even if she
Speaker 1: kills everyone in the hospital.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm like team Joe, right because that's how we
Speaker 2: have to like operate.
Speaker 1: But I selfishly don't want him to come back because
Speaker 1: if he comes back, of course worse the fans will
Speaker 1: love it because I think it would be a lot
Speaker 1: of drama. But I think that she's at that place
Speaker 1: where she's moved on. But I understand from a fans
Speaker 1: point of view wanting him back. Selfishly, for Joe, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: like you don't get to come.
Speaker 4: Back and talk to her and like, yeah, I want
Speaker 4: him to come back and like beg for you back
Speaker 4: and then you to be like bye, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I don't think fans would. I feel like
Speaker 1: fans wouldn't want that, though I think that they want
Speaker 1: him to come I think when fans say they want
Speaker 1: him to come back, I think it's in terms of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do yeah, because the truth is it was written.
Speaker 1: Really well for many, many seasons, and so people obviously
Speaker 1: were very invested.
Speaker 2: Those are two characters that I thought were, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, going to have babies and do the whole thing,
Speaker 1: which is really strange for Grace, not me, and stupid
Speaker 1: because everyone explosions happen. But but selfishly I don't want
Speaker 1: him to come back.
Speaker 5: But as an actress, don't you want drama. You don't
Speaker 5: want happily ever after. That's boring. If you and link
Speaker 5: just fall in love and get together and you live
Speaker 5: happily ever after this, that's not interesting or exciting to play, right.
Speaker 1: Well, these versions of it that are exciting to play.
Speaker 1: I think there's lots of things within a relationship that
Speaker 1: are exciting to play, and we don't.
Speaker 2: Have to always blow every relationship up. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: I think that like another love triangle is actually more
Speaker 1: boring because you have so many of them on different shows,
Speaker 1: So be interested to see, like, what is it like
Speaker 1: with two best friends.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like there's I think there's arguments for
Speaker 2: and against. I like the idea of him coming back
Speaker 2: and Joe being like, no, I've moved on from you,
Speaker 2: and then him being in the hospital having to watch it.
Speaker 2: I kind of like that the tension of them.
Speaker 1: Don't you think though, that most a lot of fans
Speaker 1: would be hoping that they get back together.
Speaker 2: I don't see. We did that with cal Zona. We
Speaker 2: did that with Arizona and Cali, and we like barely
Speaker 2: got it at the end where they were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go to New York last minute, but we're like,
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 1: But like Jackson in April, we kind of have these
Speaker 1: moments where like this happens again.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see that in the series finale. So
Speaker 2: whenever that I.
Speaker 3: Want dead Sam to come back, well, well.
Speaker 2: He might on the beach, on the beach, anything's possible.
Speaker 2: He might. Yeah. When you because you and your husband
Speaker 2: are both actors, right, yes? Is there. I'm curious because
Speaker 2: my my girlfriend's a singer and actress and I'm not
Speaker 2: so when she goes to do work things that are
Speaker 2: just work, I'm always like hmm, how was it, like, like,
Speaker 2: because y'all are both in the industry, is there any
Speaker 2: of that because like when you talk about like, oh,
Speaker 2: I had really good chemistry with him.
Speaker 1: Is it like is that awkward or is it just
Speaker 1: kind of like No, I think it's like a super
Speaker 1: technical It becomes like a super technical thing because I
Speaker 1: think that he understands what I mean by good chemistry
Speaker 1: because if he goes, like he's working on a show
Speaker 1: right now, So if he comes home and he's and
Speaker 1: I say, I ask him like, do you guys have chemistry?
Speaker 2: And he'll be like, yeah, yeah, we you know, or
Speaker 2: he'll be like I don't you know, and.
Speaker 1: It's not I think the understanding is I'm not saying
Speaker 1: like do you want to bang that m Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm not.
Speaker 1: I think he knows that that's not what I'm saying too.
Speaker 1: It's just a very it just becomes a very technical
Speaker 1: like y'all just.
Speaker 2: Get it because you're both in it. Yeah, yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: it would help because don't you feel like you have
Speaker 2: co host chemistry? Yeah, but we're not kissing or making
Speaker 2: out or having like sex scenes.
Speaker 1: That's true, but your job together this this as much
Speaker 1: as that is, like, yes, I'm kissing something, I get that,
Speaker 1: but it's still our job. And so it's a version
Speaker 1: of even what you guys have, because you might get
Speaker 1: on a show with somebody else and not. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's like whatever that means to you guys, it's.
Speaker 2: That version for us. That's nice. It's nice that we're
Speaker 2: making out.
Speaker 3: And you know, it would be so hard for me
Speaker 3: to date, to date an actor, you.
Speaker 2: Think, so, yeah, I think if you're not an actor,
Speaker 2: it would be very That's what I'm saying. I think
Speaker 2: I think that both of you having that is probably
Speaker 2: makes it easier because I mean.
Speaker 1: Your girlfriend have to go and make out with people
Speaker 1: on own show, like she does.
Speaker 2: Her music videos like We're he directs them and she's
Speaker 2: on them, and there's you know, love stories and makeouts
Speaker 2: and whatever, and I'm just like, have fun at work.
Speaker 2: See you. If you were like and I'm going to
Speaker 2: go to work and make out, yeah, if I was like,
Speaker 2: if I was you and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: gotta go, Jesse Williams, actually have a so I'll see
Speaker 2: you tonight for dinner, right like that, I'd feel great
Speaker 2: about if I had that so bad? Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 2: we can't seem to get it right, so we keep
Speaker 2: having to it for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: So we had to go two days with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well no, that would be weird. I was like,
Speaker 2: we're on day two of this one kiss. You just
Speaker 2: can't get right. Really, I can't seem to the angles
Speaker 2: not right, the lighting there, just miss my light every time.
Speaker 2: It's so strange. No, that doesn't happen, but I do.
Speaker 2: I understand it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the optics of it are hard. But also
Speaker 1: I'm on an ABC show and so it's very different.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: My husband and I weren't even dating when I was
Speaker 1: on California Occasion, and I think that like when you're
Speaker 1: butt naked having like your own Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2: With John, you know, like it's a different situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm on our show. I'm like having sex
Speaker 1: and a onesie. It's like it's like it's not very raunchy,
Speaker 1: it's not like Yeah, so I think he's probably thankful
Speaker 1: of any show that I'm on.
Speaker 2: It's been like an ABC show.
Speaker 3: You've kind of become the Queen Bee of Grays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that way, like I think obviously it was
Speaker 4: Meredith Gray for so like Ellen Pompeo for so long
Speaker 4: because it was Grey's anatomy. Yeah, but now that she's
Speaker 4: kind of taken like a back seat, I kind of
Speaker 4: feel like you are the new like Queen Bee on
Speaker 4: the show. Yeah, and like off the show like I
Speaker 4: was when I was watching, you were doing these commercials,
Speaker 4: You're doing all these Instagram face backstage.
Speaker 2: Really, I've never heard that, really like.
Speaker 3: I feel like you are the new, the new Queen.
Speaker 2: It does feel right. I've been waiting to say that
Speaker 2: it's true, though I've never heard that. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's true.
Speaker 3: I think it is.
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, I don't embrace it.
Speaker 3: It's good because if I watch the.
Speaker 1: Show, it's not like I don't feel like Joe is
Speaker 1: like centered on the show as like in the same way.
Speaker 2: You know. Oh, I was going to ask you about
Speaker 2: this because when you said you went back and watch
Speaker 2: old episodes. Yeah, because when I watch it now, I've
Speaker 2: actually been watching some older episodes. But when I watch
Speaker 2: it now, I feel like there's so many storylines that
Speaker 2: are happening all at once within the hour that it's
Speaker 2: like you don't get to like, you don't there's not
Speaker 2: this like deep focus on couples. You know, it's like
Speaker 2: more like there's so much going on that we're like
Speaker 2: jumping from scene to scene and it's like, oh wait,
Speaker 2: wit didn't what happened there?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Did you feel do you feel that when you watch
Speaker 2: old episodes? I think it depends on like the show.
Speaker 1: We've had different people kind of run the show over
Speaker 1: the years, and so I can see the transition from
Speaker 1: like Stacy who kind of like to have storyline, you know,
Speaker 1: if you had to fight in an episode, like it
Speaker 1: would extend for a long time, and then Christ is different,
Speaker 1: you know, and then Tony and Joan, and so I
Speaker 1: think it's a different There are different points in time
Speaker 1: on the show where it's a different style, which is
Speaker 1: really interesting to watch. But even now, like in the finale,
Speaker 1: I felt like there's there is a time. I mean,
Speaker 1: in our two hour finale, how many storylines do.
Speaker 2: We have going on?
Speaker 4: So many?
Speaker 2: So many? Yeah, but I did I did feel like
Speaker 2: in the finale. Maybe it was because it was the
Speaker 2: solid two hours, but I felt like there there was
Speaker 2: like wrap ups of like most of the things that
Speaker 2: happened at the end, so it didn't feel like too
Speaker 2: open ended. But when I I just feel like there's
Speaker 2: more characters or something, so many No, now oh now
Speaker 2: there yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: You're feeling now ye're not back in the day, you
Speaker 1: were saying back in the day, there are so many stories.
Speaker 1: They're saying, now, yeah, that makes more sense to me.
Speaker 2: I agree, No, no, no, I do feel that way. Now.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like there's a lot. But I think
Speaker 1: that especially this season, we had to we bought on
Speaker 1: new people, right, so we have to establish them and
Speaker 1: hopefully have fans invested. Yeah, and so it does like
Speaker 1: naturally what happens is it splits up camera time right
Speaker 1: for everybody, and then hopefully, you know, people end up
Speaker 1: being How do you guys feel about the new interns?
Speaker 1: You're not invested, y out or you're invested kind of
Speaker 1: some invest in some who do you like? It was
Speaker 1: like so fun because you guys have a doory on
Speaker 1: the show, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually interested in her storyline with Helm, like
Speaker 2: I I hope that there's like some development there. It
Speaker 2: felt a little rut like the finale it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're my day, We're gonna kiss it. It felt like
Speaker 2: a little rush, But I'm like hopefully there's some something there.
Speaker 1: But do you like because I it's so interesting because
Speaker 1: we read the script, we have a you know, a
Speaker 1: table read, and then I'm watching it at the same
Speaker 1: time with everybody else the first time, and so some
Speaker 1: people's chemistry. I'm like, I have no idea what it's
Speaker 1: really like, and I feel like little Shepherd and Yes
Speaker 1: have really cute chemistry.
Speaker 3: I was so into that, and then I got really
Speaker 3: bothered by the guy coming back and proposing engagement and
Speaker 3: like ruining it. It really threw me.
Speaker 2: I have to mess with it right, like it can't
Speaker 2: go well okay, but that's what I'm saying. That felt rush.
Speaker 2: It was like all of a sudden he comes in.
Speaker 2: We're like, who is this guy? And then he by
Speaker 2: the end of the episode, he's proposed to her and
Speaker 2: we're like, wait, wait what We're just you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I will say I really like I
Speaker 2: like them together. I'm glad she went back to Adams.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like they the new interns to me,
Speaker 2: seems so young to me compared to like when we
Speaker 2: watch like the original. Yeah, oh geez, they are you
Speaker 2: know what's so funny?
Speaker 1: I don't. They're a little bit younger in real life.
Speaker 1: But actually my intern class was younger than this intern class.
Speaker 1: We were We're like twenty eight, twenty five something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they I just think that they probably maybe look
Speaker 1: a little bit younger than we looked perhaps, or.
Speaker 2: They're all like the storylines that where they seem a
Speaker 2: little more like lost.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's true. Wait maybe Yeah, this is like kind
Speaker 4: of random but not so random. Teddy's gonna be fine, right, Oh.
Speaker 1: That's a that was Cliff high I I do you
Speaker 1: think I can honestly like say that on this show
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 4: Well, she's signed on for next season, so she's got
Speaker 4: to be fine. Because she's signed on for a new season.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean she she still has If she signed on,
Speaker 2: she can still be laying in a bed while they're
Speaker 2: trying to save her.
Speaker 1: Yeah you could technically, I guess to be killed off
Speaker 1: like episode two.
Speaker 3: Oh you're right, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I saw that and everyone was like, hah, they spoiled it.
Speaker 2: She has a new contract, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that was me. I saw you. I saw your tweet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like, how tonya trying to slide that in there?
Speaker 2: She's like, I did want to ask you, is Teddy
Speaker 2: gonna list?
Speaker 1: Just trying to catch it on huge just a huge spoiler,
Speaker 1: that main spoiler, that main storyline.
Speaker 4: You know what, last time you were here, you told
Speaker 4: us how Kevin McKidd was like really awesome, and we
Speaker 4: were telling you how we hated Owen.
Speaker 3: We just like, yeah, I hate So we had Kevin
Speaker 3: McKidd on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Did you tell.
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: Kevin has his own gripes about Owen too.
Speaker 3: Well, he was so cool about it, like he was
Speaker 3: so YEA loved him. Yeah, he really turned me. And
Speaker 3: now I'm like an Owen Stan.
Speaker 2: No, you're not, You're not an Owen Stan.
Speaker 5: You know what I was?
Speaker 2: You like Kevin mckinn. You're right correct, Yeah, but I was.
Speaker 3: I did not differentiate them for many many years. They
Speaker 3: were one and the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did have a hard time with that.
Speaker 3: But now I'm so into him, which makes me enjoy
Speaker 3: the show more.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's hard sometimes to like differentiate like the
Speaker 1: care because if you meet someone in real life and
Speaker 1: they're like terrible, Yeah, then that character that you used
Speaker 1: to like, oh so, I mean I'm sure he has
Speaker 1: swung it a little bit back in his own direction.
Speaker 3: He was so funny about it too, That's what really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he really embraced me. He did embrace the news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean Kevin if you like what's great
Speaker 1: about Kevin?
Speaker 2: And I love this.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's kind of like this is that
Speaker 1: as actors we own like, yeah, my god, they make
Speaker 1: terrible mistakes and why would they do that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And he was like, did you feel bad when Teddy
Speaker 3: cheated on me?
Speaker 2: I was like, no, you.
Speaker 3: Funny, It was really funny.
Speaker 2: Who's your best friend?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Who do you have a best friend on set? Like,
Speaker 2: I know you said that you and Chris are good friends,
Speaker 2: really good friends.
Speaker 1: Are our families in the pandemic like basically potted up together?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So our little girls are really close. So I Kai
Speaker 1: is a year older than Hayden, and they're really close,
Speaker 1: and we do like Disneyland together, and you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: now everything's opened back up and they moved a little
Speaker 1: bit further away, so it's hard to get together and
Speaker 1: we moved too. But I think that Kim Raver is
Speaker 1: like my best girlfriend on set. I feel like I
Speaker 1: could knock on her trailer door and be like Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm having a terrible like I could tell
Speaker 1: her anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we.
Speaker 2: Love Kim. I love Teddy, like I love the character Teddy,
Speaker 2: but like Kim Raver was like amazing on the podcast.
Speaker 2: I was like, she is so cool. Yeah, she's so fun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like she's like a girl's girl, Like she's
Speaker 2: just great.
Speaker 1: But to be honest, like, and we talk about this
Speaker 1: all the time, and we've talked about this again because
Speaker 1: we've had new people joints. Never know actors are we're
Speaker 1: all crazy, like it's coming on. So we had interns
Speaker 1: join and everyone's awesome. It was wild that we have
Speaker 1: a cast of like fifteen seven, twenty five I don't know,
Speaker 1: and everyone's like really genuinely great and there's not like
Speaker 1: any like actress like rivalry or anything like that on
Speaker 1: our show. It's kind of bizarre.
Speaker 5: Well that's great because in the past, Grace has kind
Speaker 5: of been known for.
Speaker 2: There you were, you the peacemaker. You were the peacemaker.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what happened to the Queen what'd
Speaker 2: you call it, the Queen Queen, Yeah, the Queen Bee.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you implied earlier that you might have a
Speaker 5: story from the table read for the finale. I wanted
Speaker 5: to make sure we heard that.
Speaker 1: If there is one, Oh, I just well it was
Speaker 1: our from the finale. It was our very first time
Speaker 1: in person since the pandemic, so we hadn't been in
Speaker 1: p've been on Zoom and you guys, you would be
Speaker 1: We're so embarrassing as a cast on Zoom, Like it's
Speaker 1: like we have like AOL dial up, like nobody, like
Speaker 1: we can't get anything to work. So our table reads
Speaker 1: are always kind of terrible because like people's sound cuts out.
Speaker 1: People are to mute and they're like munching on chips,
Speaker 1: so like all these things that all the all the
Speaker 1: chemistry that you have and like a real life table
Speaker 1: has kind of gone. And by the way, we're all muted,
Speaker 1: so it's like if you have a joke, you can't
Speaker 1: even tell if it's like playing well because no one's
Speaker 1: it's a silence, right. So we had a first m
Speaker 1: person table read for the finale.
Speaker 2: It was amazing.
Speaker 1: Shonda showed up, didn't tell us that she was was
Speaker 1: gonna be there, so shot on MS showed up for
Speaker 1: the finale, which was like, it still makes me nervous
Speaker 1: to like read in front of her because I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Yeah, it's just talking about Queen Bee.
Speaker 2: I mean, like Shonda Rhymes.
Speaker 1: But it was so emotional, and I don't think I
Speaker 1: realized how emotional. Like, I know you're not a fan
Speaker 1: of this Link speech, but like that speech that Link
Speaker 1: gives her, Like I was just like in tears in
Speaker 1: the final and it was just the chemistry between everyone
Speaker 1: was incredible.
Speaker 2: It's just awesome. I just loved it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want Joan Link to be together, I'll
Speaker 3: like it.
Speaker 1: If he does something bad, then I'll be back on
Speaker 1: the show being like.
Speaker 2: No, screw him. I'm team Joe always. Yeah, goes down badly,
Speaker 2: Remember she kills everyone, She's still team Joe. Still Joe.
Speaker 2: There's a reason for it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I've always been team Joe too, Like, I've never strayed
Speaker 4: from from you as a character.
Speaker 1: I've always liked even since day one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't really done anything. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: a season that I am less Team Joe.
Speaker 1: The season where and I think I just didn't really
Speaker 1: understand the reason behind what she was doing. But there's
Speaker 1: a season where her and Jerika Stephanie best friend on
Speaker 1: the show back then she had a friend. It was
Speaker 1: really really nice.
Speaker 2: She runned.
Speaker 1: She was just like kind of rude to her for
Speaker 1: a few episodes, and I remember thinking like why like
Speaker 1: that and that, and when things don't make sense to me,
Speaker 1: it has a kind of makes sense to me. It
Speaker 1: didn't make sense to me that she was just suddenly
Speaker 1: being rude to her. I was last team Joe during
Speaker 1: that season. Interesting but in general, yeah, did you like her? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was having an off time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all have her off moment. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she wasn't great. You okay, we always ask I don't
Speaker 2: know if you asked this last time. If you get
Speaker 2: to you get to choose your exit. You get the note, Hey,
Speaker 2: Joe is a goner, whether it's death or just an exit.
Speaker 2: What's your ideal goodbye for Joe Wilson.
Speaker 1: There's a part of me, oh my god, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say this. There's a part because of Ridles be like, yes,
Speaker 1: there's a part of me that like, the dramatic death
Speaker 1: is kind of iconic, right, yeah, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to see that dramatic death myself of her. I get it,
Speaker 1: like I kind of you know. And also I think
Speaker 1: it is nice to be able to come back on
Speaker 1: the show and make a surprise entrance again, which obviously
Speaker 1: is done if you're unless the beach happens again, and then.
Speaker 2: You never know, you never know. I would love it
Speaker 2: if I have two versions of it.
Speaker 1: I would love it if Addison came back and was like,
Speaker 1: come with me to private practice and Joe went and
Speaker 1: worked with Addison, or Jessica Capshaw came back and I
Speaker 1: was like, I want to see you fetal surgery and
Speaker 1: she went off.
Speaker 2: With Arizona and then they fell in love.
Speaker 3: I mean, I never know, you never know.
Speaker 2: I don't think you know. It's funny because I have
Speaker 2: a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Addison and Addie and I did a scene, a couple
Speaker 1: of scenes together this season. We performed an abortion, which
Speaker 1: is the first, like by the way, step by step
Speaker 1: on screen medical abortion that has ever been shown, which
Speaker 1: is kind of amazing, surgical abortion. And people started to
Speaker 1: like really like the idea of Joe and her together
Speaker 1: like it does a couple has a couple. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was interesting because it made me think, has Joe
Speaker 1: ever said like what sexuality, like how she identified I
Speaker 1: have no idea, Like, could it be that Joe Wilson
Speaker 1: is bisexual? Yes, I feel like it's totally possible. She's
Speaker 1: never said it.
Speaker 2: No, no, and I never said it and I fell
Speaker 2: in love with a woman. You just sometimes you don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean never say never.
Speaker 3: Writers better, This is better than link.
Speaker 2: You don't like I'm gonna call Chris on the way out.
Speaker 2: These girls are not a fan. We really like Chris.
Speaker 3: Yes, Chris on the show and his wife in the pandemic.
Speaker 2: So it was like, you have Chris and his wife. Yeah,
Speaker 2: are they so cute? They're so cute.
Speaker 3: It was over zoom because it was during the pandemics.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like they were great.
Speaker 2: I feel like i'd feel comped. I feel comfortable being
Speaker 2: like I don't I think Joe can do better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would tell Joe's face too, because you're fans
Speaker 3: of the show.
Speaker 2: I mean this, we see this.
Speaker 1: By the way, if I open up Twitter, I would
Speaker 1: have a million opinions.
Speaker 2: I don't think so you think so well? Like when
Speaker 2: she told Kevin McKidd that she hated and I was like,
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: To tell him.
Speaker 4: I've been talking on the podcast for three years about
Speaker 4: how much I hate this character and he's on the show.
Speaker 2: I felt like I had to tell him, You tell him?
Speaker 2: She said it was ready to go. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I kind of was like, it felt good, it's actually
Speaker 4: really felt good to get it.
Speaker 3: Off my chart. And then it felt healing. He like
Speaker 3: acknowledged it and like we can move on to Yes,
Speaker 3: we can, and we did and we moved on together,
Speaker 3: and it's so very like healing in a way.
Speaker 2: Now she's in Owen Stan.
Speaker 1: So Joe, I feel like Joe could be with you know, Oh.
Speaker 2: My gosh, that would be the best.
Speaker 3: That would be epic.
Speaker 2: I hope someone's hope, someone important is listening right now. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: let him know.
Speaker 5: How did you know was on? Did she mention that
Speaker 5: on the seate.
Speaker 2: She was on and that she had so much fun
Speaker 2: with you guys? Wow? Yeah, the words out on you. No.
Speaker 2: We always joke and wonder if you'll talk about like
Speaker 2: if anyone who's been on our because we've had a
Speaker 2: lot of the cast on our podcast, so we wonder
Speaker 2: if it's they're like all these girls are insane or.
Speaker 3: Don't do whatever you do, don't scrubbing in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she had so much fun. Yeah, I would love to.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of these people on zoom on zoom,
Speaker 2: so it would be fun to have every right, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you got to come in. It's better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's better. It's way better.
Speaker 2: It's way better. Yeah, you're our favorite, even though we've
Speaker 2: had the Queen Bee of Grays and scrubbing in well,
Speaker 2: a crown for you on this God, it's so upsetting.
Speaker 2: It's like it's just like the shape of it is
Speaker 2: what it hurts hurts, you know.
Speaker 5: I don't think we've told the listeners what you're referring to.
Speaker 4: Sorry, it's a pillow shaped head, and we have a
Speaker 4: lot of the O G. Grays cast members sid shaped pillow.
Speaker 5: It's not a pillow shape shaped pillow.
Speaker 3: A lot of the O G.
Speaker 4: Grays cast members heads and so last time you were
Speaker 4: in studio, you so great graciously signed it for us.
Speaker 1: It's the shape have a potato, I guess is what Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love about it is the amount of zoom. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's literally just like my eyeball, no hair, no hair,
Speaker 2: zero hair, there's no forehead, the chin's gone.
Speaker 5: Good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love you, thank you for coming in. I'm
Speaker 2: so happy. I got to be here for this round,
Speaker 2: and we can't wait for next season to see what
Speaker 2: happens for Joe Wilson. And we are team Joe Forever
Speaker 2: and Team Camilla.
Speaker 5: Book you for May of twenty four. We can do
Speaker 5: the same.
Speaker 1: What's fun is actually listening back to how much things
Speaker 1: change so I can be on the show like complete listen.
Speaker 2: I could be dating Arizona Robins. You never know, I know, don't.
Speaker 4: I found that to be When I was listening back
Speaker 4: to your old episode, I was like, wow, so much
Speaker 4: has changed.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy.
Speaker 2: I know. Well, thank you, thank you, thank you being back.
Speaker 2: So fun