WEBVTT - From Warrior Queen to Queen Bee 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:04.840 Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya red An iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:13.520 Hello, everybody. We are scrubbing in in. Today's episode is 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:18.400 a very special one because we have a very exciting 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:19.759 guest scrubbing in today. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:21.160 We have Royalty here with us. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.520 We have Gray's Anatomy Royalty, and we did not wear scrubs, 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.160 but that's because we I want to get a cute 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.720 photo of us together because I wasn't here last time 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:31.280 she was here. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:33.120 Oh yeah, I have to look. I meant to look 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.279 for her head pillow. Oh shoot, that's okay, I can 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:37.680 do it really quick before she comes in. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:42.600 Well, we know her as doctor Joe Wilson in Gray's Anatomy, 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.000 and Tanya thinks of her as a friend that she 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.960 will one day be watching Grey's Anatomy with. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.519 But I thought we were long lost sister friends. But 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:52.640 we did never see each other again after that first 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:53.640 time she scrubbed in. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.560 So she scrubbed in again during the pandemic we did. 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:57.400 It was just over zoom. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:58.120 It was over zoom. 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:10.319 So we're very excited to welcome back Camilla Ludington. Yes, wow, 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.800 I just want to tell y'all that she walked in 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.039 the door and looked directly at me and said, you 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.640 weren't here last time. She remember she remembered my absence. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.479 I did, thank you. Yes, that means a lot here. 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.720 Both of you. I am excited too. I'm excited that 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:24.640 you remembered me too. 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:29.240 Yes, I remember. 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:30.920 I feel like I remember a lot of people like 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.080 I remember. I feel like I know I can recognize, 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.800 like people from an entertainment weekly that have interviewed us. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:36.080 Huh. 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.520 When we've been on the show this long, we tend 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.039 to see the same people all the time. Not that 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:42.640 I've seen you odd guys all the time, but. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.000 Yeah, wow, I would just like you to know that. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.840 After that, I guess y'all ended the conversation, or maybe 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.480 it was after the podcast, Tanya was like, we should 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.240 watch an episode together. Grace nodding together, and You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.040 And Tanya told me, I'm like, Tanya. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.080 She wanted to do a watch party with us. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.240 We could. I would totally do a watch party. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.320 And Becca goes, I doubt she's. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.679 Nice of her. That feels like something I would say 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.600 to somebody who wanted, like back in the Bachelor days, 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:17.560 don't watch a Bachelor because I like the Bachelor. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.200 I'll watch one of your episodes with you, guys. If 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.320 you watch one of mine, you can get behind the 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:24.160 scenes commentary. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.839 That's great. We can just bed a long time since 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:32.720 I was on the Bachelor, but behind the scenes juice. Okay, Yeah, 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.840 I'll give you juice if you give me juice. But 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.360 I feel like your NDA is probably active and mine 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:41.359 is a longe. Mine's probably a little more active. Yeah, 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:47.400 your is a little more tight tightly like that idea. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.720 It would be kind of fun. Yeah, do we get 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.000 right into anatomy I got Okay, I'm going to start 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:53.680 with it's. 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:57.399 A lot to cover because since you've been bad, since 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.560 you've been gone, I. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:00.800 Mean, it's been a million things. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.320 And I'm excited by the way I purposely had me 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.680 come today because I'm tired, especially if it's like an 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.480 hour long podcast. I'm tired of being like I can't 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.640 tell you guys. I want to be able to like 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.480 explain the behind the scenes what like that happened, you 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.359 know for this finale, because it was really fun in 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.040 our table read and be able to talk about it. 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.320 So that's why I'm extra excited. 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.240 We're very excited about that too. Because that would have 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.000 been knowing how much went on. That would have been 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.240 a very hard talk if it wasn't out yet. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.519 Yeah, and I want to be able to talk about 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:33.320 all those things too. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.040 Okay, tell you what did you want to get into. 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:36.680 Well, there was a lot of stuff that we covered 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.960 when you were here last time that I remember what 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:39.440 it was. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:39.880 I know. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:41.840 So here we have a little audio. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:42.560 Let me hear. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.160 This is a clip from last night, April first, twenty nineteen. 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:46.840 Okay, what is it about Link that you like? 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.440 Because I've heard fan feedback and I'm wondering if it's 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:50.080 the same reason. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.160 I like that he's more mature and like, I feel 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.360 like he's better with the kids. I knew you're going 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.520 to say that, and I call him Joham de Luca. 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.839 Feels like he's just focused on his career and he's 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.280 going to be like the next like make Dreamy or 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.880 whatever he is, And I just feel like he can't 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.680 give Meredith like all that she needs. And I think 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.080 Link is like past that phase and he just wants like, 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:14.160 am I talking. 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:15.000 About Link for Meredith? 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:15.560 Yes? 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:20.840 Oh my god, Oh my gosh, wow, I actually kind 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.200 of forgot that that ever happened. 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:26.480 I know they were competing for her at the correct 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.680 I that's no memory of Link and Meredith. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.200 You don't remember this was twenty nineteen, right, did they ever? 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:34.680 Like? I don't even think they care. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.960 No, I don't think they can till Luca won that 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:37.920 he won the battle. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.000 He won the battle. Yeah, that is a mill that 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.440 just that. That's a different world on our show. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:44.839 And then there was also. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.080 This they said that you guys are crazy on any 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.920 superfans and that they said that, do you want to 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:51.839 honestly know what they said? 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:52.200 Yeah? 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:53.360 Okay, so they said. 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.080 That at first a podcast started out with you guys 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.040 discussing Gray's anatomy, and then it's become about your dating 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.520 life and that you guys are terrible at dating. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.120 So I haven't remember saying that. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.880 How did I get looped into terrible at dating? We 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.159 were we both were. I didn't date, Yes, you did? 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:14.680 Who told me that information? 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:16.479 These were your friends that listened? 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.920 Oh my god? Okay, okay, yeah that's really funny. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:24.159 So we have an update. Okay, both in committed relationships now, 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:24.719 and I'm. 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.640 Very happy to hear this. Yeah, but I've been in 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.360 my relationship. I was in my relationship for like over 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.240 a year when when she was on the podcast. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:32.400 That's true, but we didn't know about it. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.520 Yeah, it wasn't public. I've been with my I've been 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:38.240 I have a girlfriend and we've been together for five years. Amazing. 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:43.360 I've gotten better at dating. That's really funny. I don't 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.120 remember saying that we have one more thing. 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:50.360 Okay, So if there's any element potentially hurting Alex, it's 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.159 like doomsday on my Twitter. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.280 I hope, I really hope you guys, like really just 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:57.360 make it the long haul. 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.680 I really think we I really I hope so too. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:02.320 That did. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:05.040 That's just sad. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.800 That actually is devastating to hear. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.960 I know, I was listening back to the old episode 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.640 and I was like, wow, so much has changed in 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.080 the show and in real life. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:17.400 It's so crazy. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:18.320 Isn't that nuts? 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.640 Yeah? I mean it's not surprising because when I go back, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.560 like once in a while, this is what I do. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.400 I don't need to hate admitting this, okay, but once 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.200 in a while I'll be like, you know, there's nothing 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:29.880 on TV, and I'm like, let me just go back 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.679 and like watch an episode right from like an early 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.599 season that I was on because I get tweeted stuff 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.440 all the time, and I'm like, I don't know what 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.640 picture this. I have no idea what this is from. 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.760 Like that's how long I've been on the show. And 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:43.240 so I'll go back and watch an episode and it's 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.920 so different. It feels like, it feels like the show 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:51.640 has had so many iterations. It's just like a different time, 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.960 different world, and so many different ways. So it's weird 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:56.560 to even hear me say that, because I'm like. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.839 No, Alex, I know, I feel none of us saw 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:01.359 that coming. 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:05.400 No, that was heartbreaking. Yeah, well yeah it was rough. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.520 It was rough in a letter, Yeah, that's brutal. It 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:10.200 felt rough. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:12.120 It was rough. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.000 I will say something else that felt rough, And to 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.120 be honest, I just this past week have caught up, 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.760 like fully caught up. Did you watch the finale? Yeah, yeah, okay, 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.600 I had a very I was. I was a little 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.720 mad at the Meredith Gray episode, the goodbye I was 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:30.520 the farewell. 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:35.200 It just felt like because it didn't feel as huge 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.440 as she was going to. I think it's I think 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.880 I did see those comments on Twitter, but I think 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.920 the reason why is because a we knew that she 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.000 was going to do another episode this season. We already 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.440 knew she was going to be in the finale, and 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.680 she's voiceovering every episode, and I just think that of 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.840 any character she's not, it doesn't feel like she's really gone. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.640 I guess to us, I get it now. The audience 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.600 needed to feel more. I think the trailers for it, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.560 the lead up for it felt like so emotional and 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.960 heavy that when the episode got here and like there 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.160 we wrote our own toast saying farewell to Mari's Gray, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.760 we felt like we didn't get what we wanted she. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:25.120 Deserves, so we gave our own sendoffs. Yeah right, but 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.680 now I get it. Now, I get it. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.840 I didn't realize she was gonna be narrating the episodes too, 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:30.600 and I didn't realize she was going to be back. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.240 So now I guess I get it, because it wasn't. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.319 Really like no. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.600 I don't even know at the time if we could 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.120 say that she was going to be back in the finale. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:40.880 Uh, I'm not sure if we could say that. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.120 So I feel like maybe everyone thought it was going 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:45.920 to be like, oh, yeah, she's done and done, but 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.160 you know, yeah, she's going to be back. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:49.959 I feel like she's going to be back all the time. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:56.640 Obviously no episodes are being written, ye strike, but I 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:58.960 think she'll be back a ton of times. 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:15.600 That's what I think. I'm going to give a spoiler 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.719 alert before I give spoilers, because I never do that. 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.199 I always give a spoilert after we spoil it. So 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.320 I'm giving people the chance spoiler alert if you haven't watched. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:28.319 I'm curious your thoughts about Joe and Link Okay. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.360 Okay, yeah, I can talk about all these things. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.240 Yeah, and I have like a lot of questions too. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:32.599 You do. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.280 Do you have a specific question because I can talk 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.720 about it. But have you wanted them together? 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:38.280 Not? 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.559 Always? No? Okay, there was. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.560 Here's how I felt about Joe and Link. I felt 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.600 and I've said this before, so this isn't like, you know, give. 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.840 Us a breaking news bit that we can put that well, 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.160 I will, but I'll lead it up to this. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.080 I will say it like this though in the beginning, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.679 when I originally I think that they were trying to 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.680 figure out, like where do Joe go from here? After 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.920 Alex right, and I actually liked the way I mean, 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.880 obviously it was a devastating way to be broken up with, 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.839 but what I liked about it that I didn't feel 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.360 like we had shown on the show before, is that 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:17.040 people get left and sometimes they don't get that like, hey, 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:18.840 I to talk to you about this and say all 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.839 my feelings. Sometimes you just get left and they have 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.040 to figure out their own closure. So what I liked 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.280 about it is that she did have that time where 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.920 she had like her own you know, you know, time 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.679 to herself to get her own closure. But then I 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.760 knew that like maybe Jack from Stage nineteen, I don't know, 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.480 if you watch that show, they have really similar backstories, 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.520 maybe Link, and I just remember thinking that they had 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.679 written the friendship so well that I was like, no, 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:52.600 Like she first off, she has no friends, really like. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.440 Don't have a friends, No one likes her. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.480 That's actually sad. She doesn't how many times? 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.400 So I was like, can I just keep my friend 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:06.559 and like not sleep with them? And also, you know, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.520 not that not that we necessarily take into how the 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.240 fans fell into consideration as the truth, because we piss 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.319 off fans all the time in our storylines, so we can't. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.640 But like Amelia and Link, there was a huge fandom 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.199 that really loved those two together. No you weren't a fan, No, 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.880 you're a fan of them, not you like whatever, Okay, 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.240 there were there was a big fandom that like loved 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.839 them together. And then they had a kid, and I 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.040 was like, let's just bring on someone new. But I 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.400 think it's hard to know if you're also going to 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.839 have chemistry with that person. But also I was wondering 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.640 if Chris and I would have chemistry because we're friends 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.160 in real life, and our friend chemistry on screen was 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.600 really good. So I was not sold, and I wasn't 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:51.640 even necessarily sold last season. 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:51.600 On it. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.400 Because he was so hung up on Amelia that I 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.320 felt like, if I'm Joe really gonna be like falling 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.679 for this person that's so into somebody else, like I 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.880 would shut that down, but which is kind of what 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:11.920 they wrote. And then slowly this season I've been really convinced. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.880 And then for some reason, the way Chris played that 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.599 fight with me in the finale I was in I 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.559 was like, yes, like this is happening, this has to 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.959 go down, like something about like the passion fight and 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:27.680 being honest, I was sold. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:34.760 I personally feel like I may have leaned that way 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:36.520 without the hot patient. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:43.560 Okay, that's what really bothers them. Sutton Page is super 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:44.720 cute and charming. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:45.960 What pissed me off? 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.000 It takes some other guy coming in and swooping you 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.680 off your feet for link to get it together. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:53.959 I don't like that. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.480 I mean, do you, I mean, listen, do I like it? 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:01.240 But I'm trying to think, like. 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.920 If he I think that it was less of a 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.720 jealousy thing, I think it would have come out eventually. 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.320 I think he was just really scared to screw up 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.959 what they had, so I think it kind of comes 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.079 from that, and then it was just like, Okay, now 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.319 she potentially has to date somebody else. Now I have 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:23.000 to just say it, even if it's like a bad idea. 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.600 The problem is a Sam Page is super charming and shute. 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:27.400 Is he dead? 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.600 I think he died. I did not die, see, I thought. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:33.480 He died him. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:42.800 He is like he's not looking too he's like bleeding out. 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.920 But we we Cliff Hanger hanged it, but it looked 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.160 like I don't even know what that term is. Cliff 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.800 Cliff hung it, Yeah, Cliff hung it. 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.760 Yeah, but it appeared to me like they'd stop trying 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.160 to like, yeah, there, their hands were out of the 0:13:58.320 --> 0:13:59.599 body like this. 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.400 Did they call time of death? No, Okay, then you 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:03.800 never know. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.160 On our show, they did not call time of death, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:07.440 but he looks very dead. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.760 It's not looking good for Sam and Joe. I'll say that. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.960 I think I can confirm that it's not looking good 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:16.440 for them. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:21.920 Is gonna die? I think he's gonna die. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.640 I don't know. Listen, here's the thing that I have learned. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.760 Okay, I can say like, yeah, of course he's gonna die, right, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.120 But the truth is is that on our show, I 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.960 feel like there's times when I really think I'm convinced 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.520 about something. I'm like, this character is dying, and then 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.440 they don't. There's like some miraculous thing that happens. And 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.120 so until I read that script, I'm not gonna say. 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.760 It because for me personally, I wanted you with Sam, 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.760 you did what I'm saying. I wanted to see more 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.000 of it, and I was like, what, They're just gonna 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.200 kill him like that? Like this was my So here's 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.280 my like it was Denny Izzy vibes. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.760 Yeah, I feel like I'm not a I didn't like 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.800 that storyline that Denny is. I feel so seen this 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.840 is a battle all the time. That's not Yeah, I 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.200 just wasn't like Henry devastated me more Henry and Teddy 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:14.680 like devastated me. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:18.840 Yeah, I just yeah, I wasn't like super into that chemistry. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.840 But I know this is controversial. Yeah, yeah, I take 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.400 a beating every time. I like, yeah, every time I 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:26.440 share my truth. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:32.240 It's the hardest death for me on the show. But 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.840 it's up there, it's up there. Really yeah, yeah yeah, oh. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:36.480 Yeah, yeah yeah. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.960 I wasn't looking for that, but I liked that he 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.320 was very confident and that I was like, oh, I 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:45.560 could totally see them dating once he's off, once his 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:52.920 bones all he ninety three bones, once they were healed, 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.000 I felt like him and Joe there was like endless potential. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:56.840 I did too. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.760 I was really sad think that. Yeah, I think it 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.120 would have been possible. I think it only would have 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:03.600 been possible. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.200 I think also just Sam and I had good chemistry 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.560 actually as actors, like I think it just it's not 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.160 something you can help, and we just had really good 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.800 natural chemistry. And I joked with Chris, I'm like, someone's 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:19.880 giving you a little your mind, and but no, he was. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:24.920 Just a red herring a little bit. I think that's interesting. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.320 Would you have been happy then if because I know. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:28.080 I'm curious. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.520 In that speech where he's like, and I'm gonna love 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.720 you like, Link says that if Joe had been like 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.200 too late, yeah, you would have been fine with it. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:36.840 Yeah yeah, Oh my. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.480 God, I wanted you to be like, sorry, I got 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:44.200 a guy to save or like guy I liked. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.680 And when the conversation started and you were like, we 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.920 need to move out, like this, this is I can't 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.320 like basically, I can't date because you're always there. I 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:57.040 pack your bag, I was you were packing his bags. 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.440 I was throwing him out of the house. Ye yeah, 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.360 and Paul was ordered yeah yeah, I love it. And 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.480 then and then you walk towards them and I'm like, 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:11.400 oh no, you're like, like what she liked? 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.040 I think that. I think that at the end of 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.360 the day, even if she had dated Sam, I think 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.000 that Link would have been. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.639 A what if. And I think a what if is 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:30.000 dangerous to have in future relationships, especially when you're basically 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.040 raising children together and living together. 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.000 I mean that would have like I'm assuming that, you know, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.080 if if she was dating someone else, that would have 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.240 to end. I can't imagine a guy is like okay 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:44.000 with that situation. But I do think that that was unresolved. 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.520 And I think that like when you're looking for the one, right, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:52.359 like anything in the past needs to be resolved, and 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.680 they would have stayed friends, and so can I imagine 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.440 her like getting drunk at some point and having kissed 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:58.840 him and cheated on whoever she's. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:03.440 With, Like, yes, that's a problem. That's a good point. 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.399 Like if that like those feelings are never acknowledged or 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.560 dealt with and you make yourself move on. Yeah, is 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:12.720 there always that potential? 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.879 But like you guys could go to like Poundtown for 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.480 a night and then be like did go to Poundtown? 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:21.040 Yeah? 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.399 They had done that already, So that's like. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:26.080 There done that. 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:32.040 She went right back into town, she left Pound and 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.679 then she came back to Legal Like. 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.760 No, I don't think it was resolved, and I do 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.840 wonder if like they it's so sad because there was 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.640 an episode and I think it maybe would have convinced 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.720 more people too that feel this way. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:50.040 It was an. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:54.080 Episode where oh it was the episode where last season 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.760 Joe and Link it's like the story book episode, like 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.800 we do we're saving someone that's on stage and they're 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:01.240 doing like sleeping beauty. 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:02.840 Oh yeah, sleeping beauty or Ponzo. 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.800 Yeah, right, Durman that episode, okay, And at the end 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.000 of that episode is his confession of like, hey, back 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.320 in the day, I used to have feelings for you, right, 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.639 And there was a version of that episode where we 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:19.680 flashed back and we saw them working together and what 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.080 that chemistry. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.440 Was like way back in the day. 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:23.639