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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya red An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody. We are scrubbing in in. Today's episode is

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Speaker 2: a very special one because we have a very exciting

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Speaker 2: guest scrubbing in today.

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Speaker 3: We have Royalty here with us.

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Speaker 2: We have Gray's Anatomy Royalty, and we did not wear scrubs,

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Speaker 2: but that's because we I want to get a cute

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Speaker 2: photo of us together because I wasn't here last time

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Speaker 2: she was here.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have to look. I meant to look

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Speaker 3: for her head pillow. Oh shoot, that's okay, I can

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Speaker 3: do it really quick before she comes in.

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Speaker 2: Well, we know her as doctor Joe Wilson in Gray's Anatomy,

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Speaker 2: and Tanya thinks of her as a friend that she

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Speaker 2: will one day be watching Grey's Anatomy with.

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Speaker 3: But I thought we were long lost sister friends. But

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Speaker 3: we did never see each other again after that first

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Speaker 3: time she scrubbed in.

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Speaker 2: So she scrubbed in again during the pandemic we did.

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Speaker 2: It was just over zoom.

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Speaker 3: It was over zoom.

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Speaker 2: So we're very excited to welcome back Camilla Ludington. Yes, wow,

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Speaker 2: I just want to tell y'all that she walked in

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Speaker 2: the door and looked directly at me and said, you

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Speaker 2: weren't here last time. She remember she remembered my absence.

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Speaker 2: I did, thank you. Yes, that means a lot here.

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Speaker 3: Both of you. I am excited too. I'm excited that

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Speaker 3: you remembered me too.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I remember.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I remember a lot of people like

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Speaker 1: I remember. I feel like I know I can recognize,

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Speaker 1: like people from an entertainment weekly that have interviewed us.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 1: When we've been on the show this long, we tend

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Speaker 1: to see the same people all the time. Not that

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Speaker 1: I've seen you odd guys all the time, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, I would just like you to know that.

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Speaker 2: After that, I guess y'all ended the conversation, or maybe

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Speaker 2: it was after the podcast, Tanya was like, we should

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Speaker 2: watch an episode together. Grace nodding together, and You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And Tanya told me, I'm like, Tanya.

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Speaker 3: She wanted to do a watch party with us.

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Speaker 2: We could. I would totally do a watch party.

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Speaker 3: And Becca goes, I doubt she's.

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Speaker 2: Nice of her. That feels like something I would say

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Speaker 2: to somebody who wanted, like back in the Bachelor days,

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Speaker 2: don't watch a Bachelor because I like the Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: I'll watch one of your episodes with you, guys. If

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Speaker 1: you watch one of mine, you can get behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes commentary.

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Speaker 2: That's great. We can just bed a long time since

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Speaker 2: I was on the Bachelor, but behind the scenes juice. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you juice if you give me juice. But

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Speaker 2: I feel like your NDA is probably active and mine

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Speaker 2: is a longe. Mine's probably a little more active. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: your is a little more tight tightly like that idea.

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Speaker 2: It would be kind of fun. Yeah, do we get

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Speaker 2: right into anatomy I got Okay, I'm going to start

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Speaker 2: with it's.

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Speaker 3: A lot to cover because since you've been bad, since

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Speaker 3: you've been gone, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, it's been a million things.

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Speaker 1: And I'm excited by the way I purposely had me

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Speaker 1: come today because I'm tired, especially if it's like an

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Speaker 1: tell you guys. I want to be able to like

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Speaker 1: know for this finale, because it was really fun in

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Speaker 1: our table read and be able to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I'm extra excited.

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Speaker 2: We're very excited about that too. Because that would have

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Speaker 2: a very hard talk if it wasn't out yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to be able to talk about

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Speaker 1: all those things too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell you what did you want to get into.

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Speaker 4: Well, there was a lot of stuff that we covered

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Speaker 4: it was.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: So here we have a little audio.

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Speaker 2: Let me hear.

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Speaker 5: This is a clip from last night, April first, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what is it about Link that you like?

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Speaker 1: Because I've heard fan feedback and I'm wondering if it's

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Speaker 4: I like that he's more mature and like, I feel

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Speaker 4: to say that, and I call him Joham de Luca.

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Speaker 4: Feels like he's just focused on his career and he's

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Speaker 4: Link is like past that phase and he just wants like,

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Speaker 4: am I talking.

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Speaker 2: About Link for Meredith?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my gosh, wow, I actually kind

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Speaker 1: of forgot that that ever happened.

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Speaker 2: I know they were competing for her at the correct

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Speaker 2: I that's no memory of Link and Meredith.

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Speaker 3: You don't remember this was twenty nineteen, right, did they ever?

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Speaker 2: Like? I don't even think they care.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think they can till Luca won that

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Speaker 3: he won the battle.

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Speaker 1: He won the battle. Yeah, that is a mill that

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Speaker 1: just that. That's a different world on our show.

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Speaker 3: And then there was also.

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Speaker 1: This they said that you guys are crazy on any

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Speaker 1: superfans and that they said that, do you want to

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Speaker 1: honestly know what they said?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they said.

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Speaker 1: That at first a podcast started out with you guys

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Speaker 1: discussing Gray's anatomy, and then it's become about your dating

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Speaker 1: life and that you guys are terrible at dating.

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Speaker 3: So I haven't remember saying that.

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Speaker 2: How did I get looped into terrible at dating? We

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Speaker 2: were we both were. I didn't date, Yes, you did?

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Speaker 2: Who told me that information?

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Speaker 3: These were your friends that listened?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? Okay, okay, yeah that's really funny.

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Speaker 3: So we have an update. Okay, both in committed relationships now,

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Speaker 2: Very happy to hear this. Yeah, but I've been in

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Speaker 3: That's true, but we didn't know about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't public. I've been with my I've been

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Speaker 2: I have a girlfriend and we've been together for five years. Amazing.

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Speaker 2: I've gotten better at dating. That's really funny. I don't

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Speaker 2: remember saying that we have one more thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if there's any element potentially hurting Alex, it's

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Speaker 1: like doomsday on my Twitter.

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Speaker 3: I hope, I really hope you guys, like really just

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Speaker 2: I really think we I really I hope so too.

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Speaker 3: That's just sad.

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Speaker 2: That actually is devastating to hear.

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Speaker 2: It's so crazy.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that nuts?

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Speaker 3: No, Alex, I know, I feel none of us saw

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Speaker 2: No, that was heartbreaking. Yeah, well yeah it was rough.

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Speaker 2: It was rough in a letter, Yeah, that's brutal. It

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Speaker 1: It just felt like because it didn't feel as huge

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Speaker 4: So now I guess I get it, because it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I'm not sure if we could say that.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like maybe everyone thought it was going

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Speaker 1: Obviously no episodes are being written, ye strike, but I

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Speaker 2: That's what I think. I'm going to give a spoiler

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Speaker 2: alert before I give spoilers, because I never do that.

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Speaker 2: I always give a spoilert after we spoil it. So

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Speaker 2: I'm giving people the chance spoiler alert if you haven't watched.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious your thoughts about Joe and Link Okay.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I can talk about all these things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have like a lot of questions too.

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Speaker 1: You do.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a specific question because I can talk

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Speaker 2: about it. But have you wanted them together?

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Speaker 1: Not?

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Speaker 2: Always? No? Okay, there was.

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Speaker 1: Here's how I felt about Joe and Link. I felt

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Speaker 1: and I've said this before, so this isn't like, you know, give.

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Speaker 2: Us a breaking news bit that we can put that well,

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Speaker 2: I will, but I'll lead it up to this.

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Speaker 1: I will say it like this though in the beginning,

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Speaker 2: It's not looking good for Sam and Joe. I'll say that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm not a I didn't like

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Chris and I have a joke about

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Speaker 1: They did a makeup test on us, right to like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard. They just like bring people in and

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Speaker 2: like ye consistent? Well, I mean krev was you couldn't

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Speaker 2: is there any world where Alex correp comes back? Now

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00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna as.

444
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 5: He tweeted a gray mug or something and that got

445
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 5: everybody all at Twitter on Twitter?

446
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: He did he keep?

447
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 5: I thought it was a.

448
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 2: Grays mug or like he was drinking his coffee on.

449
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's look it up. Do you want to show

450
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 3: you sure?

451
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 2: He was just feeling he was wanting to stir things up.

452
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 3: He was feeling nostaldrec Is it justin Chambers? Yeah, yeah,

453
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 3: he's not verifying, he's yeah, I don't.

454
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: Think that's rights might not even be his account.

455
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 5: Then, No, I got it. I got picked up by

456
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 5: everybody there. It is because a cappuccino thing with like

457
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 5: the cast wrapped around it. But he captioned it with

458
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 5: a fresh cup of Grays is what he said, so

459
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 5: that it would imply that, oh, hey, look I'm back

460
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 5: a fresh praise, new start. But that was a long

461
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 5: time ago.

462
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: It's weird though, because it looks like that's like from

463
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: our set that's not even like a mother. Really, I

464
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: want well, I mean, who knows, maybe he's had a

465
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: meeting with the writers. They don't tell me anything ever.

466
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: Do I think Alex Karev.

467
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: Should come back? Is that my I could come back?

468
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean yeah, anyone could come back.

469
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 5: Half the dead characters have come back at some point.

470
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 1: But I'm listen, I we we always say this. We

471
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: have to be your own number one fans, right, Like

472
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: I am team Joe until the end, even if she

473
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: kills everyone in the hospital.

474
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: Like, I'm like team Joe, right because that's how we

475
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 2: have to like operate.

476
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,959
Speaker 1: But I selfishly don't want him to come back because

477
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: if he comes back, of course worse the fans will

478
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: love it because I think it would be a lot

479
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: of drama. But I think that she's at that place

480
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: where she's moved on. But I understand from a fans

481
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: point of view wanting him back. Selfishly, for Joe, I'm like, no,

482
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: like you don't get to come.

483
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: Back and talk to her and like, yeah, I want

484
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: him to come back and like beg for you back

485
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: and then you to be like bye, you know what

486
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 4: I mean?

487
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I don't think fans would. I feel like

488
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: fans wouldn't want that, though I think that they want

489
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: him to come I think when fans say they want

490
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: him to come back, I think it's in terms of.

491
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do yeah, because the truth is it was written.

492
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: Really well for many, many seasons, and so people obviously

493
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: were very invested.

494
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: Those are two characters that I thought were, yeah.

495
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: You know, going to have babies and do the whole thing,

496
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 1: which is really strange for Grace, not me, and stupid

497
00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: because everyone explosions happen. But but selfishly I don't want

498
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: him to come back.

499
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 5: But as an actress, don't you want drama. You don't

500
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 5: want happily ever after. That's boring. If you and link

501
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 5: just fall in love and get together and you live

502
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 5: happily ever after this, that's not interesting or exciting to play, right.

503
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: Well, these versions of it that are exciting to play.

504
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: I think there's lots of things within a relationship that

505
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: are exciting to play, and we don't.

506
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: Have to always blow every relationship up. Sometimes.

507
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: I think that like another love triangle is actually more

508
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 1: boring because you have so many of them on different shows,

509
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: So be interested to see, like, what is it like

510
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: with two best friends.

511
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: I don't know, like there's I think there's arguments for

512
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: and against. I like the idea of him coming back

513
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: and Joe being like, no, I've moved on from you,

514
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: and then him being in the hospital having to watch it.

515
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: I kind of like that the tension of them.

516
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: Don't you think though, that most a lot of fans

517
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: would be hoping that they get back together.

518
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: I don't see. We did that with cal Zona. We

519
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: did that with Arizona and Cali, and we like barely

520
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 2: got it at the end where they were like, yeah,

521
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna go to New York last minute, but we're like,

522
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: that's true.

523
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: But like Jackson in April, we kind of have these

524
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: moments where like this happens again.

525
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

526
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 5: I don't know.

527
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: I'd like to see that in the series finale. So

528
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: whenever that I.

529
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 3: Want dead Sam to come back, well, well.

530
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: He might on the beach, on the beach, anything's possible.

531
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: He might. Yeah. When you because you and your husband

532
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: are both actors, right, yes? Is there. I'm curious because

533
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: my my girlfriend's a singer and actress and I'm not

534
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: so when she goes to do work things that are

535
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: just work, I'm always like hmm, how was it, like, like,

536
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: because y'all are both in the industry, is there any

537
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: of that because like when you talk about like, oh,

538
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: I had really good chemistry with him.

539
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: Is it like is that awkward or is it just

540
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: kind of like No, I think it's like a super

541
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: technical It becomes like a super technical thing because I

542
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: think that he understands what I mean by good chemistry

543
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: because if he goes, like he's working on a show

544
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: right now, So if he comes home and he's and

545
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: I say, I ask him like, do you guys have chemistry?

546
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: And he'll be like, yeah, yeah, we you know, or

547
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: he'll be like I don't you know, and.

548
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: It's not I think the understanding is I'm not saying

549
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: like do you want to bang that m Yeah.

550
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: And I'm not.

551
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: I think he knows that that's not what I'm saying too.

552
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: It's just a very it just becomes a very technical

553
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: like y'all just.

554
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: Get it because you're both in it. Yeah, yeah, maybe

555
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: it would help because don't you feel like you have

556
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: co host chemistry? Yeah, but we're not kissing or making

557
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: out or having like sex scenes.

558
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: That's true, but your job together this this as much

559
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: as that is, like, yes, I'm kissing something, I get that,

560
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: but it's still our job. And so it's a version

561
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: of even what you guys have, because you might get

562
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: on a show with somebody else and not. Yeah, so

563
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: it's like whatever that means to you guys, it's.

564
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: That version for us. That's nice. It's nice that we're

565
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: making out.

566
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: And you know, it would be so hard for me

567
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: to date, to date an actor, you.

568
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: Think, so, yeah, I think if you're not an actor,

569
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: it would be very That's what I'm saying. I think

570
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: I think that both of you having that is probably

571
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: makes it easier because I mean.

572
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: Your girlfriend have to go and make out with people

573
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: on own show, like she does.

574
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: Her music videos like We're he directs them and she's

575
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: on them, and there's you know, love stories and makeouts

576
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: and whatever, and I'm just like, have fun at work.

577
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: See you. If you were like and I'm going to

578
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: go to work and make out, yeah, if I was like,

579
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: if I was you and I was like, oh, I

580
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: gotta go, Jesse Williams, actually have a so I'll see

581
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 2: you tonight for dinner, right like that, I'd feel great

582
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: about if I had that so bad? Yeah, yeah, and

583
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: we can't seem to get it right, so we keep

584
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: having to it for whatever reason.

585
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: So we had to go two days with it.

586
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well no, that would be weird. I was like,

587
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: we're on day two of this one kiss. You just

588
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: can't get right. Really, I can't seem to the angles

589
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: not right, the lighting there, just miss my light every time.

590
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: It's so strange. No, that doesn't happen, but I do.

591
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: I understand it. Yeah.

592
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the optics of it are hard. But also

593
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm on an ABC show and so it's very different.

594
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

595
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: My husband and I weren't even dating when I was

596
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: on California Occasion, and I think that like when you're

597
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: butt naked having like your own Game of Thrones.

598
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: With John, you know, like it's a different situation.

599
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm on our show. I'm like having sex

600
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: and a onesie. It's like it's like it's not very raunchy,

601
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: it's not like Yeah, so I think he's probably thankful

602
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: of any show that I'm on.

603
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: It's been like an ABC show.

604
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: You've kind of become the Queen Bee of Grays.

605
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about this.

606
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that way, like I think obviously it was

607
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 4: Meredith Gray for so like Ellen Pompeo for so long

608
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: because it was Grey's anatomy. Yeah, but now that she's

609
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: kind of taken like a back seat, I kind of

610
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: feel like you are the new like Queen Bee on

611
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 4: the show. Yeah, and like off the show like I

612
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: was when I was watching, you were doing these commercials,

613
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 4: You're doing all these Instagram face backstage.

614
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Really, I've never heard that, really like.

615
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: I feel like you are the new, the new Queen.

616
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: It does feel right. I've been waiting to say that

617
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: it's true, though I've never heard that. I don't know

618
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: if that's true.

619
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: I think it is.

620
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, I don't embrace it.

621
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: It's good because if I watch the.

622
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: Show, it's not like I don't feel like Joe is

623
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: like centered on the show as like in the same way.

624
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: You know. Oh, I was going to ask you about

625
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: this because when you said you went back and watch

626
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: old episodes. Yeah, because when I watch it now, I've

627
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: actually been watching some older episodes. But when I watch

628
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: it now, I feel like there's so many storylines that

629
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: are happening all at once within the hour that it's

630
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: like you don't get to like, you don't there's not

631
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: this like deep focus on couples. You know, it's like

632
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: more like there's so much going on that we're like

633
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: jumping from scene to scene and it's like, oh wait,

634
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: wit didn't what happened there?

635
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: You know?

636
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: Did you feel do you feel that when you watch

637
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: old episodes? I think it depends on like the show.

638
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: We've had different people kind of run the show over

639
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: the years, and so I can see the transition from

640
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: like Stacy who kind of like to have storyline, you know,

641
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: if you had to fight in an episode, like it

642
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: would extend for a long time, and then Christ is different,

643
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, and then Tony and Joan, and so I

644
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: think it's a different There are different points in time

645
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: on the show where it's a different style, which is

646
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: really interesting to watch. But even now, like in the finale,

647
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I felt like there's there is a time. I mean,

648
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: in our two hour finale, how many storylines do.

649
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: We have going on?

650
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: So many?

651
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: So many? Yeah, but I did I did feel like

652
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: in the finale. Maybe it was because it was the

653
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: solid two hours, but I felt like there there was

654
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: like wrap ups of like most of the things that

655
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: happened at the end, so it didn't feel like too

656
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: open ended. But when I I just feel like there's

657
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: more characters or something, so many No, now oh now

658
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: there yeah, yeah, so.

659
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: You're feeling now ye're not back in the day, you

660
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: were saying back in the day, there are so many stories.

661
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: They're saying, now, yeah, that makes more sense to me.

662
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: I agree, No, no, no, I do feel that way. Now.

663
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like there's a lot. But I think

664
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: that especially this season, we had to we bought on

665
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: new people, right, so we have to establish them and

666
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: hopefully have fans invested. Yeah, and so it does like

667
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: naturally what happens is it splits up camera time right

668
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: for everybody, and then hopefully, you know, people end up

669
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: being How do you guys feel about the new interns?

670
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: You're not invested, y out or you're invested kind of

671
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: some invest in some who do you like? It was

672
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: like so fun because you guys have a doory on

673
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: the show, right, Yeah.

674
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually interested in her storyline with Helm, like

675
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: I I hope that there's like some development there. It

676
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: felt a little rut like the finale it was like, oh,

677
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: you're my day, We're gonna kiss it. It felt like

678
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: a little rush, But I'm like hopefully there's some something there.

679
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: But do you like because I it's so interesting because

680
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: we read the script, we have a you know, a

681
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: table read, and then I'm watching it at the same

682
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: time with everybody else the first time, and so some

683
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: people's chemistry. I'm like, I have no idea what it's

684
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: really like, and I feel like little Shepherd and Yes

685
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: have really cute chemistry.

686
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: I was so into that, and then I got really

687
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: bothered by the guy coming back and proposing engagement and

688
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: like ruining it. It really threw me.

689
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: I have to mess with it right, like it can't

690
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: go well okay, but that's what I'm saying. That felt rush.

691
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: It was like all of a sudden he comes in.

692
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: We're like, who is this guy? And then he by

693
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: the end of the episode, he's proposed to her and

694
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: we're like, wait, wait what We're just you know what

695
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I will say I really like I

696
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: like them together. I'm glad she went back to Adams.

697
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like they the new interns to me,

698
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: seems so young to me compared to like when we

699
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: watch like the original. Yeah, oh geez, they are you

700
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: know what's so funny?

701
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 1: I don't. They're a little bit younger in real life.

702
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: But actually my intern class was younger than this intern class.

703
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: We were We're like twenty eight, twenty five something like that. Yeah,

704
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: and they I just think that they probably maybe look

705
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: a little bit younger than we looked perhaps, or.

706
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: They're all like the storylines that where they seem a

707
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: little more like lost.

708
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 4: Yeah that's true. Wait maybe Yeah, this is like kind

709
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 4: of random but not so random. Teddy's gonna be fine, right, Oh.

710
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: That's a that was Cliff high I I do you

711
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: think I can honestly like say that on this show

712
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: right now?

713
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: Well, she's signed on for next season, so she's got

714
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 4: to be fine. Because she's signed on for a new season.

715
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean she she still has If she signed on,

716
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: she can still be laying in a bed while they're

717
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: trying to save her.

718
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah you could technically, I guess to be killed off

719
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: like episode two.

720
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: Oh you're right, yeah, I know.

721
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: I saw that and everyone was like, hah, they spoiled it.

722
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: She has a new contract, and I was like, oh,

723
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: that was me. I saw you. I saw your tweet. Yeah,

724
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: I like, how tonya trying to slide that in there?

725
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: She's like, I did want to ask you, is Teddy

726
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: gonna list?

727
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: Just trying to catch it on huge just a huge spoiler,

728
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: that main spoiler, that main storyline.

729
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: You know what, last time you were here, you told

730
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 4: us how Kevin McKidd was like really awesome, and we

731
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 4: were telling you how we hated Owen.

732
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: We just like, yeah, I hate So we had Kevin

733
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: McKidd on the podcast.

734
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: Did you tell.

735
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: You know what?

736
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: Kevin has his own gripes about Owen too.

737
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: Well, he was so cool about it, like he was

738
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: so YEA loved him. Yeah, he really turned me. And

739
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: now I'm like an Owen Stan.

740
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: No, you're not, You're not an Owen Stan.

741
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 5: You know what I was?

742
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: You like Kevin mckinn. You're right correct, Yeah, but I was.

743
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: I did not differentiate them for many many years. They

744
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: were one and the same.

745
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did have a hard time with that.

746
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: But now I'm so into him, which makes me enjoy

747
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: the show more.

748
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

749
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: I think it's hard sometimes to like differentiate like the

750
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: care because if you meet someone in real life and

751
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: they're like terrible, Yeah, then that character that you used

752
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: to like, oh so, I mean I'm sure he has

753
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: swung it a little bit back in his own direction.

754
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: He was so funny about it too, That's what really.

755
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he really embraced me. He did embrace the news.

756
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean Kevin if you like what's great

757
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: about Kevin?

758
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: And I love this.

759
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's kind of like this is that

760
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: as actors we own like, yeah, my god, they make

761
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: terrible mistakes and why would they do that?

762
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

763
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: And he was like, did you feel bad when Teddy

764
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: cheated on me?

765
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: I was like, no, you.

766
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 3: Funny, It was really funny.

767
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: Who's your best friend?

768
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: Like?

769
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: Who do you have a best friend on set? Like,

770
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: I know you said that you and Chris are good friends,

771
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: really good friends.

772
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: Are our families in the pandemic like basically potted up together?

773
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

774
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: So our little girls are really close. So I Kai

775
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: is a year older than Hayden, and they're really close,

776
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: and we do like Disneyland together, and you know, I mean,

777
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: now everything's opened back up and they moved a little

778
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: bit further away, so it's hard to get together and

779
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: we moved too. But I think that Kim Raver is

780
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: like my best girlfriend on set. I feel like I

781
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: could knock on her trailer door and be like Oh

782
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: my god, I'm having a terrible like I could tell

783
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: her anything.

784
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love her.

785
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we.

786
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: Love Kim. I love Teddy, like I love the character Teddy,

787
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: but like Kim Raver was like amazing on the podcast.

788
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: I was like, she is so cool. Yeah, she's so fun. Yeah,

789
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: I feel like she's like a girl's girl, Like she's

790
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: just great.

791
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: But to be honest, like, and we talk about this

792
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: all the time, and we've talked about this again because

793
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: we've had new people joints. Never know actors are we're

794
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: all crazy, like it's coming on. So we had interns

795
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: join and everyone's awesome. It was wild that we have

796
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: a cast of like fifteen seven, twenty five I don't know,

797
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: and everyone's like really genuinely great and there's not like

798
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: any like actress like rivalry or anything like that on

799
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: our show. It's kind of bizarre.

800
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 5: Well that's great because in the past, Grace has kind

801
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 5: of been known for.

802
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: There you were, you the peacemaker. You were the peacemaker.

803
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what happened to the Queen what'd

804
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: you call it, the Queen Queen, Yeah, the Queen Bee.

805
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you implied earlier that you might have a

806
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 5: story from the table read for the finale. I wanted

807
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 5: to make sure we heard that.

808
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: If there is one, Oh, I just well it was

809
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: our from the finale. It was our very first time

810
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: in person since the pandemic, so we hadn't been in

811
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: p've been on Zoom and you guys, you would be

812
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: We're so embarrassing as a cast on Zoom, Like it's

813
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: like we have like AOL dial up, like nobody, like

814
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: we can't get anything to work. So our table reads

815
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: are always kind of terrible because like people's sound cuts out.

816
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: People are to mute and they're like munching on chips,

817
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: so like all these things that all the all the

818
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: chemistry that you have and like a real life table

819
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: has kind of gone. And by the way, we're all muted,

820
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: so it's like if you have a joke, you can't

821
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: even tell if it's like playing well because no one's

822
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: it's a silence, right. So we had a first m

823
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: person table read for the finale.

824
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: It was amazing.

825
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: Shonda showed up, didn't tell us that she was was

826
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna be there, so shot on MS showed up for

827
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: the finale, which was like, it still makes me nervous

828
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: to like read in front of her because I'm like,

829
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, Yeah, it's just talking about Queen Bee.

830
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: I mean, like Shonda Rhymes.

831
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: But it was so emotional, and I don't think I

832
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: realized how emotional. Like, I know you're not a fan

833
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: of this Link speech, but like that speech that Link

834
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: gives her, Like I was just like in tears in

835
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: the final and it was just the chemistry between everyone

836
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: was incredible.

837
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: It's just awesome. I just loved it.

838
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want Joan Link to be together, I'll

839
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: like it.

840
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: If he does something bad, then I'll be back on

841
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: the show being like.

842
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: No, screw him. I'm team Joe always. Yeah, goes down badly,

843
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: Remember she kills everyone, She's still team Joe. Still Joe.

844
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: There's a reason for it, you know what I mean.

845
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 4: I've always been team Joe too, Like, I've never strayed

846
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: from from you as a character.

847
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: I've always liked even since day one.

848
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't really done anything. I don't think it's

849
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: a season that I am less Team Joe.

850
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 1: The season where and I think I just didn't really

851
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: understand the reason behind what she was doing. But there's

852
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: a season where her and Jerika Stephanie best friend on

853
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: the show back then she had a friend. It was

854
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: really really nice.

855
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 2: She runned.

856
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: She was just like kind of rude to her for

857
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: a few episodes, and I remember thinking like why like

858
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: that and that, and when things don't make sense to me,

859
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: it has a kind of makes sense to me. It

860
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: didn't make sense to me that she was just suddenly

861
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: being rude to her. I was last team Joe during

862
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: that season. Interesting but in general, yeah, did you like her? Yeah,

863
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: she was having an off time.

864
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all have her off moment. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah,

865
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: she wasn't great. You okay, we always ask I don't

866
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: know if you asked this last time. If you get

867
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: to you get to choose your exit. You get the note, Hey,

868
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: Joe is a goner, whether it's death or just an exit.

869
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: What's your ideal goodbye for Joe Wilson.

870
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: There's a part of me, oh my god, I shouldn't

871
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: say this. There's a part because of Ridles be like, yes,

872
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: there's a part of me that like, the dramatic death

873
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: is kind of iconic, right, yeah, but I don't want

874
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: to see that dramatic death myself of her. I get it,

875
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: like I kind of you know. And also I think

876
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: it is nice to be able to come back on

877
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: the show and make a surprise entrance again, which obviously

878
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: is done if you're unless the beach happens again, and then.

879
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 2: You never know, you never know. I would love it

880
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: if I have two versions of it.

881
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: I would love it if Addison came back and was like,

882
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: come with me to private practice and Joe went and

883
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: worked with Addison, or Jessica Capshaw came back and I

884
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: was like, I want to see you fetal surgery and

885
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: she went off.

886
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: With Arizona and then they fell in love.

887
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I never know, you never know.

888
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: I don't think you know. It's funny because I have

889
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 2: a lot of people.

890
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Addison and Addie and I did a scene, a couple

891
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: of scenes together this season. We performed an abortion, which

892
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: is the first, like by the way, step by step

893
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: on screen medical abortion that has ever been shown, which

894
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: is kind of amazing, surgical abortion. And people started to

895
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: like really like the idea of Joe and her together

896
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: like it does a couple has a couple. Yeah, And

897
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: it was interesting because it made me think, has Joe

898
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: ever said like what sexuality, like how she identified I

899
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: have no idea, Like, could it be that Joe Wilson

900
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: is bisexual? Yes, I feel like it's totally possible. She's

901
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: never said it.

902
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: No, no, and I never said it and I fell

903
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: in love with a woman. You just sometimes you don't know.

904
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

905
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean never say never.

906
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: Writers better, This is better than link.

907
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: You don't like I'm gonna call Chris on the way out.

908
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: These girls are not a fan. We really like Chris.

909
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: Yes, Chris on the show and his wife in the pandemic.

910
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: So it was like, you have Chris and his wife. Yeah,

911
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: are they so cute? They're so cute.

912
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: It was over zoom because it was during the pandemics.

913
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 3: It wasn't like they were great.

914
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: I feel like i'd feel comped. I feel comfortable being

915
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: like I don't I think Joe can do better.

916
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would tell Joe's face too, because you're fans

917
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 3: of the show.

918
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: I mean this, we see this.

919
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: By the way, if I open up Twitter, I would

920
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: have a million opinions.

921
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: I don't think so you think so well? Like when

922
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: she told Kevin McKidd that she hated and I was like,

923
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: I have.

924
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: To tell him.

925
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 4: I've been talking on the podcast for three years about

926
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 4: how much I hate this character and he's on the show.

927
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: I felt like I had to tell him, You tell him?

928
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: She said it was ready to go. Yeah.

929
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: I kind of was like, it felt good, it's actually

930
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 4: really felt good to get it.

931
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: Off my chart. And then it felt healing. He like

932
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: acknowledged it and like we can move on to Yes,

933
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: we can, and we did and we moved on together,

934
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: and it's so very like healing in a way.

935
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: Now she's in Owen Stan.

936
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: So Joe, I feel like Joe could be with you know, Oh.

937
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: My gosh, that would be the best.

938
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 3: That would be epic.

939
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: I hope someone's hope, someone important is listening right now. Yeah, yeah,

940
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: let him know.

941
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 5: How did you know was on? Did she mention that

942
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 5: on the seate.

943
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: She was on and that she had so much fun

944
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: with you guys? Wow? Yeah, the words out on you. No.

945
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: We always joke and wonder if you'll talk about like

946
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: if anyone who's been on our because we've had a

947
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: lot of the cast on our podcast, so we wonder

948
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: if it's they're like all these girls are insane or.

949
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: Don't do whatever you do, don't scrubbing in.

950
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, she had so much fun. Yeah, I would love to.

951
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: We had a lot of these people on zoom on zoom,

952
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: so it would be fun to have every right, Oh, yeah,

953
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: you got to come in. It's better.

954
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's better. It's way better.

955
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: It's way better. Yeah, you're our favorite, even though we've

956
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: had the Queen Bee of Grays and scrubbing in well,

957
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: a crown for you on this God, it's so upsetting.

958
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: It's like it's just like the shape of it is

959
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: what it hurts hurts, you know.

960
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 5: I don't think we've told the listeners what you're referring to.

961
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: Sorry, it's a pillow shaped head, and we have a

962
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 4: lot of the O G. Grays cast members sid shaped pillow.

963
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 5: It's not a pillow shape shaped pillow.

964
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: A lot of the O G.

965
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 4: Grays cast members heads and so last time you were

966
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: in studio, you so great graciously signed it for us.

967
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: It's the shape have a potato, I guess is what Yeah,

968
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: I love about it is the amount of zoom. Yeah.

969
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: It's literally just like my eyeball, no hair, no hair,

970
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: zero hair, there's no forehead, the chin's gone.

971
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 5: Good.

972
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love you, thank you for coming in. I'm

973
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: so happy. I got to be here for this round,

974
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: and we can't wait for next season to see what

975
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: happens for Joe Wilson. And we are team Joe Forever

976
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: and Team Camilla.

977
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 5: Book you for May of twenty four. We can do

978
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 5: the same.

979
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: What's fun is actually listening back to how much things

980
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: change so I can be on the show like complete listen.

981
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: I could be dating Arizona Robins. You never know, I know, don't.

982
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 4: I found that to be When I was listening back

983
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 4: to your old episode, I was like, wow, so much

984
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: has changed.

985
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: It's so crazy.

986
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: I know. Well, thank you, thank you, thank you being back.

987
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 2: So fun