Speaker 1: Leading off starts now right here on Fantasy Pros, brought
Speaker 1: to you by bet MGM. I am Chris Welsh, who
Speaker 1: you could find on Twitter at is it the Welsh
Speaker 1: in joining me today is the illustrious I got a
Speaker 1: beautiful smile right there he is, Kate see Bubba on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I beat the intrick, my great buddy, yours as well, Bubba?
Speaker 1: What's up man?
Speaker 2: Not much, my friend. I've been called a lot of
Speaker 2: things in life. I'm not sure illustrious has ever hit
Speaker 2: the top of our list. But I appreciate the kind
Speaker 2: words always.
Speaker 1: Great chat you now, now next time you hear that word,
Speaker 1: you're gonna think of yourself. That's all that. That's what
Speaker 1: I was going for. Appreciate it now you got it.
Speaker 1: On the show today, we've got a whole bunch of cover.
Speaker 1: Actually gonna play a little game with Bubba. You guys
Speaker 1: in the chat can play along as well. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be going through all the stat heroes. The zero is
Speaker 1: the home run, which maah in another homer that is four.
Speaker 1: By the way, since last Monday, got no idea where
Speaker 1: that puts me up on the leaderboard, because I have
Speaker 1: not been on the leaderboard this entire season, making and
Speaker 1: chugging away just a little bit as we keep moving.
Speaker 1: Stupid Joe just keeps getting homers as well, because he's
Speaker 1: got Aaron Judge, and like I said, Judge literally alone
Speaker 1: is beating everybody in the contest. And now you know,
Speaker 1: Joe's just able to carry him over. So we must
Speaker 1: end that we've got some bets, and we've got a
Speaker 1: whole bunch more. But there is no gift that keeps
Speaker 1: on giving in baseball like Chris Sale. Chris Sale, he
Speaker 1: giveth the tiny bit and he taketh away all. Chris
Speaker 1: Sale underwent season ending surgery on Monday after fracturing his
Speaker 1: right wrist last Saturday in a bicycle accident. Yes, you
Speaker 1: heard me correct, a bicycle accident. No, not the rib thing,
Speaker 1: not the punching of the things in the minor league. No,
Speaker 1: he was riding a bike. Would love it if it
Speaker 1: was like like a hardcore motorcycle or maybe.
Speaker 2: Like a Madison bum grunner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like something like that. But you know it
Speaker 1: was probably like a twenty six inch mountain bike that
Speaker 1: he was cruising around just like angrily, just like reel,
Speaker 1: and he fell over something fractures riskies out for the season.
Speaker 1: I mean to laugh, but like you know, everyoneted to
Speaker 1: get me crap about some of the injury guys. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of weird injury stuff that's happening. Chris Saale,
Speaker 1: Bubba is a disaster.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a. It's a colossal disaster. It's an illustrious disaster,
Speaker 2: if we must say it's a it's quite impressive. When
Speaker 2: I saw that headline this morning, I was like, you've
Speaker 2: got to be kidding me, Like when it rains, it pours.
Speaker 2: I think the Red Sox paid him thirty million this year.
Speaker 2: So if things weren't going bad enough in Boston, that's
Speaker 2: a ship has sailed, as it was said in the chat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good line, browing the ship has sailed.
Speaker 1: That would be actually a great article headline.
Speaker 2: If you want to guarantee it'll be in the Boston
Speaker 2: Globe or something very quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. That would be like a yeah, they'd be
Speaker 1: like what was it? Like the New York Posts, like
Speaker 1: the Post has always got the like crazy ones. You know,
Speaker 1: that would be a really good article if you wanted
Speaker 1: to break down all the injuries, and you know this
Speaker 1: used to be Stanton, but now it looks like it's
Speaker 1: turning into Sale in this flukiness. Age has been an
Speaker 1: issue major games. I mean, where did he go. He
Speaker 1: go ten years where everyone's like, oh, the way he throws,
Speaker 1: he's gonna break his arm or his arm's gonna blow out.
Speaker 1: Never did, and now he just is breaking every other
Speaker 1: step of the way. It's an easy redraft thing. You
Speaker 1: move on, see you bye, nothing to be worried about.
Speaker 1: But as far as Dynasty goes with a week left
Speaker 1: or anything, is there any real fantasy? I mean, we
Speaker 1: could easily just watch the season off, come back in
Speaker 1: next year, start this all thing over and feel good.
Speaker 1: But you feel good into the future with Chris Saale
Speaker 1: because there's no hope for the rest of this year.
Speaker 2: There's no hope for this year. I would be willing
Speaker 2: to buy low on him in Dynasty if you could,
Speaker 2: because he still has you know, some some darts in
Speaker 2: that gun. Maybe you'm ount with him. We've play avoid
Speaker 2: guns with that Chris Sale. But I am intrigued with
Speaker 2: what he can still do because then a little bit
Speaker 2: we did see this year he used to very effective.
Speaker 2: Is getting healthy. There's some value there. It's like a
Speaker 2: great question to be would you rather trust Chris Sale
Speaker 2: next year or Jacob de Gram next year? In Dynasty?
Speaker 2: I mean mean to Graham, Yeah, but man.
Speaker 1: No, I know I get it. Like I saw our
Speaker 1: buddy Eric Cross you put out a tweet today and
Speaker 1: he was like, right now is a great time to
Speaker 1: sell him in all fourmats. I don't really agree. I
Speaker 1: just don't know. Like in Dynasty, Sure, Dynasty is actually
Speaker 1: probably the best place to sell Chris Sell Jacob de Groom.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have my no hitter today for not
Speaker 1: screwing something up verbally, So Chat, we just gave up
Speaker 1: our first hit. Let's see if I give up any
Speaker 1: runs at the end of here when we scorecard the show.
Speaker 1: But like Jacob de Grom, when he's out there, he
Speaker 1: is the best pitcher in baseball from a Dynasty perspective,
Speaker 1: based on age, based on the injury risk, based on
Speaker 1: what he could do for a team buying for a
Speaker 1: fantasy title. Right now, this is the best time to
Speaker 1: trade him. You could get some great youth, You could
Speaker 1: probably get four or five pieces redraft. Though. I just
Speaker 1: don't agree because I think there's too much stigma around
Speaker 1: him that this is me. I would rather hold on
Speaker 1: because no one's gonna give you eighty I don't think
Speaker 1: eighty to eighty five cents on the dollar on it,
Speaker 1: And I would rather go in with the opportunity and
Speaker 1: chance that I have the best pitcher in baseball going
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Could he break down? Yes? Is he
Speaker 1: gonna do it off of a bike? No, that's good,
Speaker 1: but I would I don't agree with the redraft. I
Speaker 1: agree in any other which really is only dynasty. I
Speaker 1: agree on that front. This is a fantastic time. I
Speaker 1: mean they I think it was Codify that just put
Speaker 1: this out. They had the top ten I think it
Speaker 1: was or top eight fastest thrown sliders this season that
Speaker 1: had whiffs on him. Every single one was Jacob d Grom.
Speaker 1: Like the top eight were all Jacob de Grom in
Speaker 1: his first two starts, or maybe it was just his
Speaker 1: last one he had on the seventh, they're all to Grom.
Speaker 1: So yes, totally agree on dynasty. I don't agree on
Speaker 1: redraft this season, and if you look at it on
Speaker 1: a scope of just next year, I'm a massacre. I
Speaker 1: would still go Jacob de Grom. I would still I
Speaker 1: hope you can finish out this year. Chris sailed to
Speaker 1: maybe be fair, it's a lot of fluky stuff, but
Speaker 1: when's the fluky stuff gonna fall apart? And also bub
Speaker 1: like he's a little unstable that whole minor league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, you know, you guys shouldn't be filming
Speaker 1: this stuff, Like the guy doesn't. He's in I don't
Speaker 1: care level of stuff and he's I mean, you probably
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't be righting a bike when he fractured or
Speaker 1: ribs and done a bunch of stuff. Probably shouldn't be
Speaker 1: out doing that. Maybe I'm being too traumatic. Maybe he
Speaker 1: was just you know, cruising around the street or something
Speaker 1: like that. But I don't know if the flukiness makes
Speaker 1: you feel any bit better about the injury proneness that
Speaker 1: de Grom is holding. Maybe a better one would be
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw or chrisail.
Speaker 2: Good one too. Yeah, Clayton Kersher with the back. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of why I was going to Grom versus Sail.
Speaker 2: The flukiness of sales to Grom. I want him to
Speaker 2: be healthy. He's amazing to watch, he's great, but I'm
Speaker 2: just waiting for that whole thing to just snap and
Speaker 2: He's literally hanging on by a thread right now, and
Speaker 2: that's what's scary. So I'm with you on the regular season,
Speaker 2: keep him Dynasty. I think it's great time to move
Speaker 2: to Groam. I think it's an interesting conversation because Kershaw
Speaker 2: might be a better example with the back issue, and
Speaker 2: you know what, he might even retire after this year,
Speaker 2: Like Kershaw might not even be here for next year,
Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on there too.
Speaker 1: I hope not. Bogman and I were reliving my shaky
Speaker 1: cam picture of Kershaw from the Whole Foods. When I
Speaker 1: caught it was on a Whole Foods. People don't know,
Speaker 1: and this is years and years ago, and nobody there
Speaker 1: knew who Jacob de grom are. I keep saying Jack Groam,
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw and one of those things where it's like
Speaker 1: you also feel horrifically bad about it. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta go up to him, like no one he's
Speaker 1: just having a great day, no one's bothering him. I
Speaker 1: did it really quiet, and now he's just like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to cause any attention, But da da da,
Speaker 1: and I have a shaky cam picture and I wish
Speaker 1: it was clear. I wish I had I got a
Speaker 1: new iPhone. I wish I had the iPhone. I probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been as a shaky and garbage as it was.
Speaker 1: So Chris sail out for the year by bye see
Speaker 1: yuh also but by Aaron Judge for Baseball's forty fourth
Speaker 1: of the year. That's why Joe keeps going. I think
Speaker 1: our homer on Board the Leaders thirty nine just continuously
Speaker 1: pointing out forty four homers for Aaron Judge. But I
Speaker 1: had mentioned in the there it was a Monday episode
Speaker 1: that Judge had moved. We had a move in the
Speaker 1: MVP stuff again on the al side where Otani moved
Speaker 1: down to around three and a half to one. Judge
Speaker 1: is minus money. Didn't look this morning. It's probably about
Speaker 1: the same fools, bet, foolsy fools.
Speaker 2: Bet. I'm not taking any negative money on any kind
Speaker 2: of award like this, like Judge deserves it, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, but show hey, my goodness unless they give
Speaker 2: a show Hey the sy young which he deserves as well.
Speaker 2: It's hard not to give the MVP, it really is. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually, just a really easy quick way to think about it.
Speaker 1: Just not taking minus money on this Award.
Speaker 2: That's a just go there.
Speaker 1: Whatever the minus money is, play the other side or
Speaker 1: don't play it. I just don't go down there Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Baltimore beat Toronto, and I believe they are now five
Speaker 1: games over five hundred after that, and they've moved one
Speaker 1: game behind Seattle for the third wild card spot. They're
Speaker 1: a game and a half behind Tampa Bay for the
Speaker 1: second wild card spot and three games behind Toronto for
Speaker 1: that first. Pretty amazing what Baltimore is doing and putting
Speaker 1: together offensively. Santandeer's kind of picked back up. Jorge Mateo
Speaker 1: is trying to actually hit for contact. They're doing it
Speaker 1: all still as they got rid of Trey Mancini, who's
Speaker 1: rocking it out in Houston. So interesting stuff on Baltimore.
Speaker 1: And then finally on the big headlines, Cubs announced that
Speaker 1: Jason Hayward is not returning for twenty twenty three or
Speaker 1: this season, and he had about twenty two million dollars
Speaker 1: on that contract, so they're eating that money to say
Speaker 1: peace out. Probably in the pantheon of worst contracts in
Speaker 1: the I mean, you go all time. It's tough because
Speaker 1: money is weird, But I don't know, would you say
Speaker 1: Jason Hayward maybe top ten worst contract signings in baseball.
Speaker 1: I mean I put like Chris Davis up there is
Speaker 1: maybe the number one.
Speaker 2: Chris Davis is bad. Josh Hamilton didn't turn out to
Speaker 2: be so strong by the end of that one. That
Speaker 2: was a rough one, but I guess it was good
Speaker 2: at the beginning. Hayward's are a bad one like that
Speaker 2: one may no sense out the gate. It was more
Speaker 2: like the Cubs or just spending money to spend money.
Speaker 2: So yeah, tough one there.
Speaker 1: I know Cubs would mark that one like Cubs fans
Speaker 1: like we brought this up before and talked about it.
Speaker 1: Maybe not here, but we had talked about, like I
Speaker 1: always go to the Chris Davis contract, like what a
Speaker 1: wasat so what a disaster Baltimore. Chris Davis and Cubs
Speaker 1: fans would jump in and go, well about Jason Hayward
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, he's on there, He's just not
Speaker 1: the big, big one of it, but they are washing
Speaker 1: their hands of him. Over On the injury front, Matt
Speaker 1: Carpenter broke his foot, no timetable for return, could possibly
Speaker 1: return for the playoffs. The fantasy season is over and
Speaker 1: I had done it actually a news update on it,
Speaker 1: and I believe the number was like fifteen homers and
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven at bats. He had raised
Speaker 1: the Yankees absolute recovery of his career and as put
Speaker 1: in many articles, Bubba potentially the front runner for the
Speaker 1: comeback Player of the year that ends and that's a
Speaker 1: is that a brutal blow to the Yankees like as
Speaker 1: a whole, But I mean he was a spark plug.
Speaker 1: He was a big spark plug and be a huge
Speaker 1: injection into fantasy rosters that were easily just wiping him
Speaker 1: up on the wire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, he was huge this year. Fifteen homers, as
Speaker 2: he mentioned, it's crazy to think about, and they need
Speaker 2: them because Labor Toris is kind of slowing down a
Speaker 2: little bit right now. So Jack Cartmenter was playing a
Speaker 2: lot and that's a big, big load of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I had this this question
Speaker 1: like very beginning of the season. It was right as
Speaker 1: Josh Rojas came back, and it was like Labor or Rojas,
Speaker 1: and I was like, listen, I'm still team Rojas. I
Speaker 1: think Labor kind of went on that tear for a
Speaker 1: bit and Rojas was just kind of like middle line,
Speaker 1: and then it's all kind of even doubt. You know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say Josh Rojas is fantastic, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's what those kind of fringy guys like toys do,
Speaker 1: like up and down, up and down, and he's kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, the inconsistency. It's been much better. You can
Speaker 1: count on him a little bit more, but they're still inconsistencies.
Speaker 1: There a few other injuries. Jesse Winker left with a
Speaker 1: back injury that seems to be pretty consistent this year.
Speaker 1: Monitor that too, because tomorrow Julio Rodriguez is scheduled to
Speaker 1: come back off the IL and they're still holding on
Speaker 1: to Jared Keelnick. They optioned Abraham Toro as Mitch Hanneger
Speaker 1: came back, So you know how that whole outfield is
Speaker 1: going to look. They've got Julio Hanneger is probably going
Speaker 1: to play more. DH Winkers consistently getting hurt. They got
Speaker 1: Kyle Lewis, Jared Keelnick. Will he stick around. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it matters at this point, but Kelnick maybe
Speaker 1: sent down regardless unless this is a bigger thing for Winker.
Speaker 1: Jonathan India left with a hamstring string possibly going to
Speaker 1: be returning today and Anthony Rizzo could be coming back today. Maybe,
Speaker 1: so Yankees need that offensive push. But I got a
Speaker 1: game for you, Okay. I was going through scouring like
Speaker 1: to do two weeks, seven days, thirty markers on different places,
Speaker 1: and one of the toughest things I think is overall
Speaker 1: value of players, Like what site do you go to
Speaker 1: to value because they use these algorithms. We have this
Speaker 1: hilarious thing earlier in the year where god, what was it.
Speaker 1: The checker reminded me it was like if his ESPN
Speaker 1: or something Mayer had posted about the rankings in a
Speaker 1: points lead and how Johannio Swarz was more valuable than
Speaker 1: Hosier Ramirez and we were like, oh my god, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? And it's all sometimes about the stupid,
Speaker 1: ridiculous algorithms.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I just saw Chuck. This dis distracted me
Speaker 1: that Julio isn't coming back tomorrow.
Speaker 2: This is what they were going to reevaluate them today
Speaker 2: to either come back Wednesday or Friday. That's the latest
Speaker 2: I saw this morning.
Speaker 1: So algorithms are always uniquely weird and different, and sometimes
Speaker 1: statistically they might not make sense, but it is all
Speaker 1: about how they weigh them. Fan tracks has one. I
Speaker 1: don't really care for it. It's their score system. If
Speaker 1: you go into a lot of the others you'll see
Speaker 1: it blah blah blah. So Yahoo, I think is always interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think this was Yahoo that it was done in,
Speaker 1: and they'll have different score systems across or so. Yahoo
Speaker 1: had said that was the top five value in points.
Speaker 1: So I pulled up Yahoo. They're thirty days and this
Speaker 1: is based on the algorithm. What I've noticed is they
Speaker 1: definitely weigh batting average a bit more. So higher batting
Speaker 1: averages are gonna be a little bit of help. Stolen
Speaker 1: bases don't necessarily push them. So I've got four players
Speaker 1: for you, and I want you to order them for
Speaker 1: me over thirty days. How they've ranked on Yahoo's algorithm.
Speaker 1: All right, then we can even go through stats after
Speaker 1: I'll give you I'll let you give your order, I'll
Speaker 1: give you the stats, and then i'll let you make
Speaker 1: changes if you want. So the four players in alphabetical order, Bobashett,
Speaker 1: Jose Miranda, Matt Olsen, Oneal Cruz. Those are four players again, Bashett, Miranda, Olsen,
Speaker 1: Cruz thirty days last thirty days on Yahoo. Give me
Speaker 1: the order that you think they sit.
Speaker 2: In, Miranda Olsen, Bashette, Cruise. That one was tough, Miranda
Speaker 2: for sures number one.
Speaker 1: Dang, you got the Miranda thing. I wanted to try
Speaker 1: to sneak in. Miranda.
Speaker 2: What happens when I write an article for some website every.
Speaker 1: Single day, said Miranda.
Speaker 2: Olsen, Cruz, Cruise, and Baschetter are almost interchangeable to me.
Speaker 1: But that's a cool You nailed it, You absolutely nailed it.
Speaker 1: There was no fooling there whatsoever. ONEOK. And this is
Speaker 1: not definitely not a distractor of ONEO Cruz. ONEO Cruz
Speaker 1: has been just no average. Yeah, top one hundred player,
Speaker 1: just outside the top seventy five as far as Yahoo's
Speaker 1: algorithm goes six homers, three stolen bases, but a two
Speaker 1: to ten batting average, twelve runs, fifteen RBI decent. That's
Speaker 1: a arguably a four category player. You know, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: you could say like three and a half right there.
Speaker 1: But a huge albatross, and the biggest albatross is of
Speaker 1: any of the players is the batting average. So that's
Speaker 1: Onneo Cruz, bashet is only two spots higher. He is
Speaker 1: the seventy fifth on Yahoo's algorithm over the last thirty
Speaker 1: days and a standard five x five pointing out. This
Speaker 1: is not points league. Two homers, two stolen bases, fourteen runs,
Speaker 1: fifteen RBI two ninety two batting average, So oneo Cruz
Speaker 1: beats him in homers, beats it in stolen bases. They're
Speaker 1: tied in our RBI. But Bashett has the runs and
Speaker 1: significant batting average, but it only bumped them up a
Speaker 1: couple spots. You nailed the others. And my big thing
Speaker 1: here was about Jose Miranda at kind of an albatrosse
Speaker 1: batting average. He's actually a two category bat albat TRUSS
Speaker 1: two twenty six and zero stolen bases, but eight homers,
Speaker 1: sixteen runs and twenty one RBIs. Those three numbers are
Speaker 1: more than any other player on this list. And Jose Miranda,
Speaker 1: though the number one player top twenty on the algorithm,
Speaker 1: fourteen runs, four homers, twenty RBI, one stolen base, a
Speaker 1: three sixty six batting average, so does the stolen bases
Speaker 1: aren't big markers, but is a little bit of everything
Speaker 1: that is very impressive. That is very very impressive that
Speaker 1: you got the Miranda side, but you know, you obviously
Speaker 1: pay attention to those things, and I say.
Speaker 2: Why I'm on Fantasy pros. This is what happens.
Speaker 1: Yep, thirty days. You know. It was even more interesting
Speaker 1: was over the last two weeks Jose Miranda on Yahoo
Speaker 1: a top ten player. So this was actually a little
Speaker 1: bit of a shocker to me as well. But this
Speaker 1: is probably due to dead league, so I don't want
Speaker 1: to think too much about it. Is ownership only seventy
Speaker 1: one percent on Miranda and Yahoo. But something we uncovered
Speaker 1: yesterday we were doing the Fancy Baseball ITL podcasts and
Speaker 1: like ESPN's biggest rank changers or acquisition changes, they were big,
Speaker 1: except the ownership numbers were embarrassing. Why is that because
Speaker 1: of dead leagues? So you would have the number one
Speaker 1: picked up player, Number two is Devin Williams, Like, what
Speaker 1: do you think Devin Williams ownership should be? What do
Speaker 1: you think it is on CBS?
Speaker 2: Oh, it should be like close to one hundred percent
Speaker 2: by now, But I know for a fact it was
Speaker 2: probably like thirty five percent or something.
Speaker 1: Well, CBS it's eighty five percent, ESPN fifty eight percent.
Speaker 1: It was the second biggest changer, so dead league. So
Speaker 1: Yahoo can suffer from that as well. So when I
Speaker 1: say when I go and say, what is it seventy
Speaker 1: when I'm saying like, oh, yeah, yeah, seventy one percent
Speaker 1: on Jose Miranda, that doesn't necessarily I mean, he's available everywhere.
Speaker 1: It could be dead leagues, but you lose guys like
Speaker 1: Matt Carpenter. There's some other dudes that, you know, leagues
Speaker 1: might be kind of tapering down a little bit. Ten teams,
Speaker 1: twelve teams, Miranda's possibility to sit out there because he's
Speaker 1: not as sexy and a season totals are still a
Speaker 1: tiny bit lower. Get Miranda. Randa is such a such
Speaker 1: a good dude. I've got him picked up in a
Speaker 1: couple of leagues, and he was actually at they'll tell
Speaker 1: you off everybody. He was at the controversy of a
Speaker 1: tout issue I had from like two months ago with
Speaker 1: Miranda because his yeah you love the drama because it's yeah,
Speaker 1: because of you know, position eligibility and how I picked
Speaker 1: him up and all this nonsense. You would think when
Speaker 1: you pick up a player who has a position on
Speaker 1: a site, you'd be good to go, but apparently not
Speaker 1: even though he qualifies at a position I pick him
Speaker 1: up there. Apparently that was a misnomer.
Speaker 2: It doesn't doesn't help that that site's a tough sight.
Speaker 2: To the end of a tough one.
Speaker 1: Here's a trivia question. Aaron Judge has forty four homers
Speaker 1: with eleven stolen bases and has not been caught stealing
Speaker 1: this season. Who is the only other player in major
Speaker 1: league history? This is not to Bubba because he can
Speaker 1: see the answer. So the only other player major league
Speaker 1: history to hit forty homers and have ten plus stolen
Speaker 1: bases without being caught. That should be an interesting one.
Speaker 1: So you guys throw it out there. Forty ten plus
Speaker 1: no cot stolen bases. Let's see what you guys got.
Speaker 1: Since stat heroes not a ton of anything really yesterday
Speaker 1: other Swarez when seven struck out eight, only gave up
Speaker 1: two hits. Pretty solid for LA. Zach Gallon seven with
Speaker 1: eight strikeouts. He was one of the guys. I mean again,
Speaker 1: there weren't that many, but you know, pointing out a
Speaker 1: few of the players I did. On the DFS side,
Speaker 1: Zach Gallen was near the top. He had a great day.
Speaker 1: Cole Irvin has had a really, really sneaky year. Go
Speaker 1: and check out Codify has got a really good tweet
Speaker 1: on his earn run totals this year. I think he's
Speaker 1: got like one over four earned runs on like fifteen
Speaker 1: or sixteen starts or something. Eight inning, six strikeouts Alex
Speaker 1: Wood the chat was talking about yesterday six and one
Speaker 1: third five strikeouts only give up three hits and Chris
Speaker 1: Bassett eight strikeout, eight innings with eight strikeouts to give
Speaker 1: up eight hits for the Mets, but was still solid.
Speaker 1: We had highlighted Gallon Bassett and Keikon Thompson who didn't
Speaker 1: blow up the world or anything like that, missed the
Speaker 1: strikeout prop, but he was pretty solid. Cole Irvin has
Speaker 1: he been as is he as sneaky as sneaky can be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's one guy that I've looked at a lot,
Speaker 2: especially for streaming options. The frustrating part of the strikeouts
Speaker 2: aren't always consistent, but like you mentioned, he limits the
Speaker 2: damage he gets you, you know, five six innings almost every start,
Speaker 2: if not more so. He's formidable as a streamer. It's
Speaker 2: tough to put him out through every start.
Speaker 1: Film you know who he is. He's like broke Logan
Speaker 1: Wilbert or Logan Gilbert Man, there's another hit. I just
Speaker 1: gave up.
Speaker 2: He's a little, he's a left, he's j happ this
Speaker 2: is who he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good and I
Speaker 1: was thinking of like the like Logan Gilbert's got, you know,
Speaker 1: like he can have big, powerful stuff, but then he'll
Speaker 1: just disappear on strikeouts, so he would just be like
Speaker 1: poor Man's. By the way, great guesses in the chat
Speaker 1: so far, none of them are correct, is it can
Speaker 1: Seikoh no, a Rod No, Goldie Nope, Curtis Granderson nope,
Speaker 1: Sorano Nope.
Speaker 2: I was surprised by the answer. I'll say that much.
Speaker 2: People to keep guessing.
Speaker 1: When we get to the end of the stats. I'll
Speaker 1: let you guys know if you want to do any
Speaker 1: more guesses On the hitter side for the big positive
Speaker 1: Josh Donaldson four for five with a homer, three RBIs
Speaker 1: and three runs. Mitch Haniger back with bomb, three for four, homer, RBI,
Speaker 1: two runs, Matt Ryan mount Castle, he had a bomb.
Speaker 1: Mike Mayor celebrating somewhere, Aaron Judge, we know forty four.
Speaker 1: Matt Chapman my home run call to for three with
Speaker 1: a homer and rbi Nelson Velasquez had a bomb, Starling
Speaker 1: Marte homer, Combomel actually with a stolen base, Anthony Santander, Andrew,
Speaker 1: Ben and Tendi did not have homer but had three
Speaker 1: rbiys And it's a beautiful, beautiful number. Seeing Andrew always
Speaker 1: which accounting stats could be higher? With Ben and Tendee,
Speaker 1: I really thought he could be like a twenty twenty
Speaker 1: guy this season. He's gotten a lot of contact and
Speaker 1: stuff under control, but he just never put up big
Speaker 1: major counting stats. Maybe this last little run with New
Speaker 1: York will happen, but just didn't quite live up to Abobba.
Speaker 2: Just not quite there. Nope, not quite there at all.
Speaker 2: It's been a rough go, rough go for Ben and
Speaker 2: Tendy this year.
Speaker 1: Still no answers here on the Zeros Logan Gilbert seven innings,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, four innings, seven earned runs, only two strikeouts,
Speaker 1: you say? Kakuchi gave up three homers with five earned
Speaker 1: runs on the pitching side for the hitters, Jerks and
Speaker 1: pro far Oh for four, Sean Murphy O for four,
Speaker 1: Typrance over four Oneil Cruz. I did not put it
Speaker 1: on here, oh for three. The answer you guys are
Speaker 1: looking for that you have not seen Albert Bell nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety six. Albert Bell is the answer all good guesses.
Speaker 1: No chance I would have gotten this. I probably would
Speaker 1: have started with Bonds because Bonds was a pretty proficient like.
Speaker 2: Early year forty guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stolen base guy. But if you think about it,
Speaker 1: because of that, it might have been tough to get
Speaker 1: like with the amount of stolen bases on there yet
Speaker 1: to be really perfect, So you would have had to say,
Speaker 1: who's a huge power hitter, who is putting up at
Speaker 1: least a minimal amount of stolen base attempts to get
Speaker 1: you to double digits? Soriano, I think is a really
Speaker 1: good guess.
Speaker 2: I'll say Goldie. Goldie was good.
Speaker 1: Goldie's are great. Yeah, Goldie's are really good. One may
Speaker 1: even a rod like Conseiko. I wouldn't have simply because
Speaker 1: of again, going back to the amount of attempts, that's
Speaker 1: a really big amount of attempts. But Albert Bell nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety six forty plus homers, ten plus Doolen bases without
Speaker 1: being caught, very very impressive. Over to our home run board,
Speaker 1: let's get the board up here. Home run lead aboard.
Speaker 1: There you go, hikeby got he's got a lead. Oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that. Yeah, I think someone mentioned
Speaker 1: it earlier in the chat. He's up to forty. We
Speaker 1: had a thirty nine, thirty eight or yesterday, High Covey
Speaker 1: has a two home run lead. He is the first
Speaker 1: to reach forty. Wonky forgot to declare the eight to
Speaker 1: eight catcher bonus. We found out, so we will have
Speaker 1: a different bonus tomorrow on the show for Wednesday. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm told by Wonky that there was supposed
Speaker 1: to be a catcher bonus that's not there. Mike Mayer
Speaker 1: is tied for second Frickin' place night King of the
Speaker 1: North kind of falling back, and you guys can see
Speaker 1: the whole list there as things things are getting crazy.
Speaker 1: I think High Kevey had Mitch Haniger, Mayor had Chapman
Speaker 1: with me. We had some judge Mountcastle. Those are the
Speaker 1: top ones on the board for the home run contest,
Speaker 1: and Bubba and I are going to make it. Guess
Speaker 1: have been pretty good so far, Bubba, so you know,
Speaker 1: time to get on the board, Time to get rocking here, Bets,
Speaker 1: I'll say what you think about these, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: your take. I've got four bets. Two are the leaders
Speaker 1: over at bettingpros dot com the MLB prop cheat sheet.
Speaker 1: These are the top two. Which one is the stolen base,
Speaker 1: one is a total base or one is a total base,
Speaker 1: one is a strikeout. And then I've got two that
Speaker 1: I like for today. So here are your algorithms bettingpros
Speaker 1: dot Com Mlbprop cheat Sheet. Bets number one Alecmanoa over
Speaker 1: on bet MGM. It is over on the strikeouts are
Speaker 1: projecting close to seven against Baltimore. It's four and a half,
Speaker 1: but it's very juiced up. It's at like, you know,
Speaker 1: minus one sixty five, So not the best type of
Speaker 1: straight bet play, but maybe you want to put them
Speaker 1: in with something. It's their number one on their algorithm.
Speaker 1: Number two they like Vladimir Guerrero Junior at Baltimore again,
Speaker 1: Toronto bets total bases. It's minus one fifteen. They've got
Speaker 1: over three and a half as they are total, so
Speaker 1: you got a big over there minus one fifteen one
Speaker 1: and a half. This is at Una Bets, so it's
Speaker 1: probably similar. Bubba My two bets Paul Goldman at Colorado
Speaker 1: total bases. I like the one and a half over.
Speaker 1: It's minus one thirty two. The projections agree at two
Speaker 1: and a half and Garrett Cole strikeouts. I've tried to
Speaker 1: play an under yesterday didn't work. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: the over seven and a half. It's minus one thirty.
Speaker 1: At Seattle, he gave up eight earned runs against the
Speaker 1: Mariners and still struck out eight in that last one,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna feel confident he goes over one hundred pitches,
Speaker 1: he strikes out eight. I really like the Garrett Cole
Speaker 1: and my Paul gold Schmidt one. What do you think
Speaker 1: about these four bets mine versus the algorithm? What are
Speaker 1: your favorites?
Speaker 2: I love that Manoa one. It's juice. Maybe you can
Speaker 2: find a five or a five and a half and
Speaker 2: still take it. That's got some nice appeal. But anytime
Speaker 2: you get Goldi and Coors, that's very nice. I don't
Speaker 2: mind a little. I don't even know what the numbers are,
Speaker 2: but an Aeronato returning to Cooors one probably sounds pretty fun.
Speaker 2: But Garrett Cole, yeah, I just do the strikeout monsters,
Speaker 2: so I don't to mind that at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a bad one over on the oh and
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Speaker 1: Maybe you go put it on one of those bad boys.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I can't even like physically fathom if
Speaker 1: you were putting it on like a prop, Like what
Speaker 1: type of fear would be in there if you moved
Speaker 1: away from a game spread? Or would you feel better
Speaker 1: if you Okay, Bubba, if you had a one thousand
Speaker 1: dollars risk free bet right now, would you be honing
Speaker 1: in on a singular prop or would you be honing
Speaker 1: in on a GameLine.
Speaker 2: I go a singular prop, that's where you go?
Speaker 1: You would I feel like I would be more GameLine.
Speaker 2: The more I think about this, I want it to
Speaker 2: be either over. If it's a game line, I want
Speaker 2: like a first five. I want it to be quick,
Speaker 2: like give me a team total first five or something
Speaker 2: that's rock and roll.
Speaker 1: I'd probably be like a first five. That's probably where
Speaker 1: I would go, Like.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to sweat the whole game watch the
Speaker 2: bullpen screw it up and then just like really want
Speaker 2: to break things like let me, let me go.
Speaker 1: The worst thing, too, is like some of these low
Speaker 1: ones like Kee and Thompson. Yesterday was three and a
Speaker 1: half strikeouts and he went like five or six, only
Speaker 1: had three. It's like to get one of those, like
Speaker 1: even like the Minoa one it's four and a half.
Speaker 1: He has games where he'll go seven and strikeout three.
Speaker 1: If you're in like the six inning with three strikeouts
Speaker 1: and you've got big money on it, that's the type
Speaker 1: of stuff that'll get the juices flow, and maybe not
Speaker 1: in all the best ways. I'm gonna throw out some
Speaker 1: a couple DFS things, but Bubba, if you've got some takes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it to you. I just found some
Speaker 1: decent cash prizes that you might want to look for
Speaker 1: as far as pitchers go, whether DK or FanDuel, Shoho
Speaker 1: Tani is at ten to three today on DK, Shane
Speaker 1: Bieber nine to four. I like Miles michaelis at seven
Speaker 1: to nine on FanDuel. A couple of the same guys.
Speaker 1: We got Otani at eleven two, Bieber at ten to two,
Speaker 1: Orkaty at eight seven and michaelis at eight six. If
Speaker 1: you're looking and implied run totals, the number one today
Speaker 1: I think this is a six run implied total is
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Cardinals, the Braves and Mets both over five,
Speaker 1: So Cardinals, Braves, Mets for some stacks. If you're looking
Speaker 1: there anything else you like on the DFS side today.
Speaker 2: I think Wheeler against Miami is outstanding if you can
Speaker 2: get that, and if you want to be a little
Speaker 2: contrarian and you want to save some money, that Charlie
Speaker 2: Morton's and Carls Carascas of the world could be a
Speaker 2: little fun for you on the pitching side and hitting
Speaker 2: you nailed the main stacks. The other one I'd mentioned
Speaker 2: if the weather is good Toronto and Chicago because poloespinarts
Speaker 2: gs up a ton of contacts, so Mubbies could be
Speaker 2: Mubbies could be sneaky on this one for you, especially
Speaker 2: with that Cardinals one.
Speaker 1: Like someone I feel like I was honing in on
Speaker 1: was Dylan Carlson, Like Dylan, Yes, and someone like leading
Speaker 1: off on you know in Colorado. That's someone I would
Speaker 1: try to put in a lineup that was going together.
Speaker 1: Home run call time, Bubba we know Joe has got
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, I've got a wonky call here, I've got
Speaker 1: my call. But you are on the dock at first.
Speaker 1: For the guests, what do you think and who do
Speaker 1: you got hitting a bond today?
Speaker 2: I am going with the one and only Austin Riley,
Speaker 2: who has a one point one nine zero ops first
Speaker 2: lefties and faces Rich Hill, who just gets obliterated by
Speaker 2: right handed hitting. So give me, give me Austin Riley,
Speaker 2: go what to what I call ding Dong.
Speaker 1: City, ding Dong City. I call him blister God. By
Speaker 1: the way, Richel is blister God.
Speaker 2: He is the blister God.
Speaker 1: He's held it together for the last like year and
Speaker 1: a half. I feel like we haven't had you know,
Speaker 1: the four to five blister il Stens a year.
Speaker 2: Hasn't pitched enough this year to do that.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a really good point. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go on that Cardinals game. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: Paul Goldschmidt. Wonkey is in the same game. She's going Aeronado.
Speaker 1: So obviously we are very heavily invested in the Cardinals
Speaker 1: today going up against Rockies. Gimme Goldie. Wonkey's got Aeronado,
Speaker 1: Austin Riley, Aaron Judge, all on the board, and that
Speaker 1: is it. Where's the tiara is asked, I will bring
Speaker 1: it back tomorrow just for Kelly, because Kelly did ask
Speaker 1: for the tiara during the vet MGM leading off Reid.
Speaker 1: I will do that. I will bring it on for
Speaker 1: the props. We'll bring back the tiara for sure. And
Speaker 1: I would say today we had some stumbles. My brain
Speaker 1: has been so fried the last two weeks. Bubba, I
Speaker 1: think this was more like a I think I'm six
Speaker 1: is a quality start. I think we went six, probably
Speaker 1: gave up a run with a couple of the messes here,
Speaker 1: so I don't we don't have a stat line. Don't
Speaker 1: give me a stat line, but I'm gonna save my
Speaker 1: performance hosting today. Six and one third gave up a
Speaker 1: run walk to but I think I struck out seven.
Speaker 1: I think is a pretty good fantasy start today as
Speaker 1: a host, Bubba, Bubba, you obviously you came in, you
Speaker 1: closed it out, you saved it. Perfect inning, immaculate inning,
Speaker 1: if I do say so myself, my friend.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. You pulled a col Irvin and
Speaker 2: that I came in and did the rest so.
Speaker 1: Here we go. We lock it down friends. Thanks for
Speaker 1: hanging out, everybody that's in the chat. I definitely want
Speaker 1: to start incorporating maybe some more questions from the chat
Speaker 1: that we can get in live. Hopefully you guys had
Speaker 1: fun with us. Thank you for hanging The Wonky Penguin
Speaker 1: is here tomorrow, Bubba. We'll be back again next week.
Speaker 1: I'm Chris Wels. This is leading off. Thank you everybody,
Speaker 1: we're out here.
Speaker 2: Peace out.