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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. He's the Maurice Harris podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanzas, and I'm in a room

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Speaker 1: that is filled with some heroes. Chris Westling to my left.

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosa thought to my right, what is up? Boys? Hey? Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm like them. I'm the Maurice Harris of this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Low expectations, a camp grinder. It's gonna max out? Is uh?

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Speaker 1: Natural ability? I see you more as edlemen. Our show,

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Speaker 1: of course, presented by the Great Serious x M. Where

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Speaker 1: you go for all your tunes? That that's something I

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Speaker 1: still say tunes? No, that's the problem. But I'm giving

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Speaker 1: your tracks all right? Eric, Have you ever listened to

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Speaker 1: like coffee Shop channel on Serious six And that's a

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Speaker 1: good question, that's a good one. Are you a serious listener? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So what are your your go to stations? I mean

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Speaker 1: I like Hits one. I like the Heat, which is

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Speaker 1: like r and b um. The pulse is like oldies

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Speaker 1: classics at Channel fifteen. That's good. Yeah, oldies. No, it's

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Speaker 1: like early two thousand's right. Um, I know it is,

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Speaker 1: so I can. Here's the old timer Britney spears right

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Speaker 1: at you with toxic Um. I like the spectrum spectrums

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Speaker 1: when I like Dad station that, I like that. It's

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Speaker 1: like a spectrum of music from the eighties, nineties and today,

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Speaker 1: like alternative rock, like the college stations as well. Connected

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. They're like next up on the spectrum.

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Speaker 1: Green Day. I don't know, I just didn't seem right.

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Speaker 1: All right, good serious time, Hi everybody, welcome back from

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Speaker 1: the weekend Um West. How was your I know you

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Speaker 1: you held a shin dig Yeah, my brother drove in.

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Speaker 1: He was in Vegas. We played quite a bit of

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Speaker 1: corn hole, had some pulled porks, some Sincinnati style chili. Good,

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Speaker 1: good night, good times. Very good. You were there, imagine

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Speaker 1: I was briefly I had I had my kids with me,

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Speaker 1: so it was an early departure. I hear that guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it raged out. Yeah. Patrick Clayban came over with his

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Speaker 1: son Malcolm. But yeah, we were both leaving, probably as

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Speaker 1: the party was just about to get really rip roaring.

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Speaker 1: I was, it was Unfortunately I was unable to attend

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Speaker 1: double birthday scenario. When you get hit with a double birthday,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go underneath, you gotta go on the ground.

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Speaker 1: How to take care of the boy, how to take

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Speaker 1: care of the wife? No room for daddy to make plans.

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Speaker 1: Good performance by spice Rack, nice, Spicy doing Spicy is

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Speaker 1: doing well? Uh, you know, Colleen John were there? Good?

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Speaker 1: Is there any value to spice Rack on this show

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Speaker 1: now that he's not in the desert. Let's just let's

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Speaker 1: just be honest about this. It's a fair question, spice Rack.

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Speaker 1: Of course your desert consigliary you would go to, we

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Speaker 1: would go to for college football wagering advice, stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: That I mean, that's that's out. There's a question. I

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Speaker 1: it's like one of those guest stars on a sitcom

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Speaker 1: Maybe if becomes a recurring character, but its contracts just

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Speaker 1: for one time, and I it should be remember that

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Speaker 1: I am on call for judy jury duty all week,

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Speaker 1: So feel free if I'm not here Wednesday or Friday

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Speaker 1: to just plug spice rack in for that test. Now,

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Speaker 1: uh coming up on today's show. Okay, So we're about

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Speaker 1: two weeks deep in training camp and we have one

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Speaker 1: week of the preseason in the book, so perfect time

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Speaker 1: to take stock of what's going on in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. Some winners and losers. Uh thus far in August.

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Speaker 1: Also a lot to get to, including yes, more heat

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Speaker 1: around Antonio Browns. Will get to that in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: It is time now for what we're hearing presented by

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Speaker 1: Serious XM. Let's do some news. Rickyone's still fighting for

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Speaker 1: at that point, he knows all right. As the Antonio

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Speaker 1: and so let's get into it. So, yes, where where

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Speaker 1: we last left off? The last episode? Uh, both in

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Speaker 1: our own Mike Silver NFL Network, Uh released that twenty

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Speaker 1: part thread, all the nuggets about um, his anger about

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Speaker 1: the helmet, about his behavior and team meetings, about storming

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter reports Brown has told the Raiders he quote

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Speaker 1: really come down against Brown. It's a very sense of situation.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Gruden had to say when asked about it.

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Speaker 1: athletic report of the Brown he plans on holding out

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Speaker 1: while wearing this new league approved helmet, which again everyone

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Speaker 1: preseason game, John Gruden said, I support this guy. I

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Speaker 1: the problem isn't that John Gruden U took a calculated

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Speaker 1: trying to reinforce a whole new culture. Your rookie first

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying into this guy. If him in that

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Speaker 1: Working hard is not Antonio Brown's no problem. No, But

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like Khalil Mack was exactly. They didn't

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Speaker 1: like three or four weeks. If I was a Raiders fan,

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Speaker 1: Gruden said he'll be with them for years to come,

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows what his numbers are. That gets to a

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Speaker 1: point where the guy isn't worth it. I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: why not? Anyway? He Um has been a lights out

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Speaker 1: haven't had to use for a while, but maybe you

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Speaker 1: could just put that on your dudo lest ahead of

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Speaker 1: Wednesday show. I hope not to Jake Brisket in our life,

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Speaker 1: you know, all season. But let's just be prepared. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to be caught with your pants down. You

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Speaker 1: don't never. Uh, that's what's happening in the news all right,

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Speaker 1: before we get to winners and losers. Uh, a little

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Speaker 1: um station note. Yes, it's that time, big announce of

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Speaker 1: the fantasy Extravaganza. It's ready and it's locked, and it's

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Speaker 1: loaded for next Wednesday. And if you have a draft

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Speaker 1: coming up, and again, God help you if you draft

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Speaker 1: before the third preseason game, grow up, Peter, Pam. You

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Speaker 1: wanna you wanna have your draft after that third preseason

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Speaker 1: week for a lot of reasons, most of all, make

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Speaker 1: sure you don't draft a guy first overall that blows

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Speaker 1: out his knee before the season even starts. That's beside

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Speaker 1: the point. We're making sure to give you this content

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Speaker 1: before um um, before you have to make your decision

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Speaker 1: when real draft should be taking place two weeks from now, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean you guys, are you guys built road a

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Speaker 1: world brick by break? You don't really respect guys that

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Speaker 1: are drafting in early August, right, you want to have

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Speaker 1: as much data as possible, and things like what we

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Speaker 1: just talked about Andrew lux Kath for example, matter. So

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Speaker 1: the more time you have, the more day. If you're

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Speaker 1: like the big fish Evan Silva, and you've got your

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Speaker 1: hand in hundreds of pots and you're just you know,

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Speaker 1: borderline addict, but you made a career out of it,

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Speaker 1: it's different because you're just drafting all the time. He

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Speaker 1: wakes up, he's just drafting. He's in some best ball leagues.

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Speaker 1: That's different. But if you're like most people, you have

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Speaker 1: one or two leagues, it's with your friends. That's the

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Speaker 1: time to do it because you get to hear great

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Speaker 1: advice like West Honkin for George Kittle a year ago

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Speaker 1: that people would be missing out if they weren't drafting

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Speaker 1: George Kitto paying no attention to any of the bad advice.

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Speaker 1: I believe Adam rank coined the term league of record.

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Speaker 1: You know everybody, maybe some people do one league, Uh,

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Speaker 1: maybe you do two or three, but there's always one

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Speaker 1: league that that's the one that's most important to you.

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Speaker 1: Classy of you to acknowledge rank on that got him

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Speaker 1: a lot, nice guy, longtime colleague. Yeah, yeah, I would say. Besides,

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Speaker 1: Mark Rank might be my only colleague that you know.

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Speaker 1: When I came into the NFL, he was already here

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Speaker 1: survivor you guys. So I's been here for a long time,

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Speaker 1: as if I perhaps too long. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into winners and losers and training camp and

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Speaker 1: preseason week one. Will go around the horn. I will.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, And if Mark was here,

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Speaker 1: Mark a little under the weather today, Mark was here,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he would give us a lot of the losers.

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Speaker 1: He's very good with that. I came up with a

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Speaker 1: lot of positive ones. And maybe you guys will bounce

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Speaker 1: it out because mine are mostly on the winner side. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've got some losers. Yeah, so that's good, So that

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Speaker 1: will balance it all out. Um, so we'll go around

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Speaker 1: the horn here a few times. UM I wanted. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like you've got some good losers. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start Greg off with throw us a winner, Greg, and

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Speaker 1: then maybe I'll come in with another winner, and then

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Speaker 1: West you can get going, drop hammer, drop a big

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Speaker 1: old loser. Let's start in Pittsburgh, where uh really two

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Speaker 1: winners basically the young Steelers, but starting with Devin Bush.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's it's just a preseason game, but

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Speaker 1: this is their number one overall, uh, their number one

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Speaker 1: draft picked us here the middle linebacker of the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Following in that great tradition, what you want to see

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Speaker 1: out of a rookie or really any starters playing with

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Speaker 1: a bunch of backups is that it just as obvious

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Speaker 1: that he's the star out there and the starter, and

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Speaker 1: that he's playing with a bunch of backups and he's

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Speaker 1: just dominating them. And for a guy to do that.

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Speaker 1: In his first preseason game coming straight out of college,

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Speaker 1: Devin Bush had ten tackles five I think what are

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Speaker 1: they called stop swamps like a successful thing solo solo

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Speaker 1: tackles that creates a negative play for the offense. He

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Speaker 1: he was just flying around. And it also backs up

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Speaker 1: what everyone's saying in Steelers came is that, look, he's

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Speaker 1: their leader, he's calling the plays in the huddle, and man,

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Speaker 1: they had such a huge hole there last year that

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Speaker 1: to me, he's the favorite right now for defensive Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year, just because that's the easiest position to

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Speaker 1: do it. And I love what I saw, and I

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Speaker 1: also love what I saw at James Washington, the receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think this Steelers receiver group is gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: James Washington, Moncrief, and then you have Deante uh Spencer

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Speaker 1: as like your fourth kind of smaller guy, Johnson, the

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Speaker 1: guy they drafted Dante Spence who is the CFLs picking

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Speaker 1: up my Deante's right. And Washington who made three big

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Speaker 1: players in that game and just kind of looks like

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Speaker 1: he's coming along. And that again, it supports what's going

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Speaker 1: on in camp. So it's not you're not just like

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Speaker 1: going crazy off one preseason game, but you've been hearing

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Speaker 1: that from the writers there that Washington's made. I'm super

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Speaker 1: peeves right now. I'm p o because I had a

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Speaker 1: chance to start the segment and be the hero. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the Steelers. That's my first one too. They

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Speaker 1: were my they were my first win. And for the

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Speaker 1: obvious also reason they're not dealing with Brown's headache. I

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Speaker 1: I have here. I have Devin Bush. They've been looking

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Speaker 1: to fill that Ryan Schasier slot for years now, multiple years.

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Speaker 1: They need a little stability, and maybe he's that guy,

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Speaker 1: James Washington. They have such a great track record of

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Speaker 1: developing wide receivers, I and Juju Smith Schuster we already

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Speaker 1: know is now a superstar. I have no doubt that

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberg gonna be stays healthy, is gonna be once

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Speaker 1: again that guy that throws her four four thousand, five

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Speaker 1: thousand yards. I just I assume they're gonna end away

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Speaker 1: to make it happen, And I just think in general,

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Speaker 1: the camp Kumbaya vibe evolved them. Now they got hit

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Speaker 1: by some tragedy this weekend. Uh Darryl Drake, their wide

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Speaker 1: receiver coach, unexpectedly passed away, and that's really sad. But

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Speaker 1: before before that event happened, you know, everything around this

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Speaker 1: camp has been very positive. And last year the whole

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Speaker 1: camp was undermined by the Levy on Bell drama and

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Speaker 1: then at the end of the season, Antonio Brown pulled

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Speaker 1: his Shenanigans, quitting on the team. You're not hearing any

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Speaker 1: of this drama around the Steelers, and I think I

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Speaker 1: think we're on the same I know Greg you are,

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Speaker 1: and I imagine West you are as well. That this

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Speaker 1: team is perhaps lying in the weeds in the a

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Speaker 1: f C, which they never do because you always expect

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Speaker 1: them to be a heavy favorite. But you don't hear

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Speaker 1: as much about them, and that's a good thing, I

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Speaker 1: think if you're a Steelers fan. He said the word stability,

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Speaker 1: and for the last half century there's been no better

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Speaker 1: example of stability in the league than the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: And that's how I look at them. With Devin Bush,

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Speaker 1: that was their one achilles heel last year on defense.

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Speaker 1: Now they've got a guy who not only can call

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Speaker 1: the plays, be the leader, can cover run backs and

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Speaker 1: tight ends, which they didn't really have last year. They've

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Speaker 1: got Um. Edman's the guy they drafted in the first

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Speaker 1: round last year. Charlie Batch, the Presedons announcer, is talking

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Speaker 1: about him being a Pro Bowl candidate because he's had

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Speaker 1: such a strong training camp. And then James Washington and

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Speaker 1: Deante Johnson at wide receiver. To give you some depth,

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Speaker 1: this looks like a really stable team to me. Um,

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Speaker 1: let me go with another a f C powerhouse, especially

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Speaker 1: on offense. Um the Kansas City Chiefs. Okay, so they

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Speaker 1: drafted of course, remember around the draft, that's right when

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Speaker 1: the Tyreek Hills stuff dropped like a hammer. Um with

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Speaker 1: the recorded audio conversation with his domestic issue and the

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Speaker 1: next day the Chiefs go out and they draft Nicole Hardman, who, um,

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Speaker 1: you thought at the time it seemed in late April

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Speaker 1: like Tyreek Hill perhaps would never play for the Chiefs again,

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Speaker 1: maybe never played in the NFL again. Well, it turns out,

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Speaker 1: whether you agree with it or not, Tyreek Hill is

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Speaker 1: going to be a part of the Chiefs all season.

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Speaker 1: And now you add you take Hardman, who in in

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Speaker 1: the lens of the draft around that time, it kind

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Speaker 1: of look like, God, you know it's gonna be tricky.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna ask this rookie to step in and be

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Speaker 1: a major, uh play a major role, and is he

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Speaker 1: gonna be ready? Well, now he could kind of develop

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Speaker 1: at his own pace. In the first preseason game, he

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Speaker 1: showed off that speed. He took a shovel pass in

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Speaker 1: the end zone blue away some Bengals on defense. And

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Speaker 1: he's had a really good camp for an everything we're hearing.

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Speaker 1: So you add it all up and you and you have,

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Speaker 1: of course uh Kelsey in there as well, and their abilities.

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Speaker 1: It's almost an embarrassment of riches in that first passed

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Speaker 1: from my homes to Kelsey and stride down the side

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Speaker 1: to do that on the first play of preseasons and

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Speaker 1: then Mikool Hardman has runs a four three three, Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill runs a four three four. Darwin Thompson, a guy

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Speaker 1: they drafted in the sixth round, looked incredible in that game.

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Speaker 1: This team, like, I have got winner as Mahomes repeat

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Speaker 1: m vy Pea Chians already with Tyrek and now I

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Speaker 1: had this guy. I'm with you. The Chiefs weirdly are

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Speaker 1: almost lying, not lying in the weeds, but they should

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Speaker 1: be the fave. It to me, just because they have

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and their defense played at such a terrible level

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Speaker 1: last year that I actually think there's a lot to

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Speaker 1: like about what they've done on defense, including their rookie

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Speaker 1: second round pick, the original second round pick which was

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Speaker 1: one Thornhill, who's had a great camp at safety, and

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Speaker 1: suddenly you have Thornhill and and Honey Badger back there.

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Speaker 1: That was a weakness in their secondary and Spags. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've been tough on Spags. Man, they needed a change

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Speaker 1: on their defense. All they have to do is be average.

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Speaker 1: I mean they were thirty they were between twenty seven

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Speaker 1: and thirty one in league, depending on which metric you trust,

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Speaker 1: and if they can just be better, man, that there.

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Speaker 1: To me, they are the favorites. It'd be crazy that

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Speaker 1: for anyone to not be. I'm banging the I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the Desert people say, but I'm banging the over.

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Speaker 1: If it's like twelve and a half for wins for them,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have another big regular season. Now

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Speaker 1: we'll translate in January. I don't know. They seemed that.

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Speaker 1: It seems to be a bugaboo for about thirty years

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Speaker 1: in County. I mean, if they won that coin flip,

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Speaker 1: I still think they'd be Super Bowl champs. As much

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Speaker 1: as uh I would not want that to happen. It's

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Speaker 1: been a bugaboo since Len Dawson was smoking heaters in

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Speaker 1: the halftime at the locker room, smokeing eaters. All right,

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Speaker 1: speaking of heaters, West drop it dropping a bomb on something.

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Speaker 1: Here's a loser steal some dreams. There is a player

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Speaker 1: in the midst of the most feudal some might say

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Speaker 1: hair browned holding hair brained hold out I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is extremely futile. I don't know what he's

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Speaker 1: I know what he's trying to accomplish. But he's not

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Speaker 1: Levy on Bell. He's not a free agent at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year, he's he better getting camping and

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Speaker 1: fight for a starting job. Austin Ekeler looked incredible, Justin

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Speaker 1: Jackson looked good. Uh, none other than Ladanian. Tomlins said

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Speaker 1: of Justin Jackson, He's got vision, power, acceleration, all the

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Speaker 1: things you want to see in a young running back.

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Speaker 1: And Melvin Gordon, I don't. I just think he's he's

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Speaker 1: either getting bad advice or somebody is not twisting his

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Speaker 1: arm enough to get him in camp all right. I

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Speaker 1: do think that's a big factor in his holdout, that

636
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: they have good backups, that they have a good running scheme.

637
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: First of all, I think Anthony lens is a good

638
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: job kind of you know, the running game, and they

639
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: have really good backups. If they were in a situation

640
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: like Dallas where you just have Tony Pollard who's a

641
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: fourth round rookie and looked fine and they're trying to talk. Also,

642
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: if you were as good as Ezekiel Elliott, that might

643
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: make sense, but he's not as right, So it's the combination.

644
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: But I think the Charges are a team that really

645
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: want to make the playoffs, but I don't think they're

646
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: sweating it. Nearly as much because they got really good backups. Also, Hey,

647
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: the rest of your teammates are working. We have some

648
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: breaking news. How about this? This from Tom Pella Sero.

649
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown's grievance over his helmet was denied by an

650
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: arbitrator after months of fighting it. He'll have to wear

651
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: an approved helmet this season barring a long shot legal challenge.

652
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: Otherwise he can't play or get paid. And then a

653
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: b on Twitter chimes in and this kind of refutes

654
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: the Adam Schefter reporting or he changed his mind. But

655
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: here's what Brown had to say. While I disagree, disagree

656
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: with the arbitrator's decision, I'm working on getting back to

657
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: full health and looking forward to rejoining my teammates on

658
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: the field. I'm excited about this season. Appreciate all the

659
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: concerns about my feet. Hashtag always a fight, hashtag represent

660
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: hashtag it's bigger than me. See he's a great teammate. West,

661
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: What are we talking? Where does this guy get off

662
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: with the hashtag it's bigger than me? Why don't you

663
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: act like you know? But you're missing the point West,

664
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: that was before. Now he's a good teammate. It's bigger

665
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: than I also like, uh, I like, um a tweet

666
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: where it's all in quotes, he quoted him. He's quoting

667
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: himself on his own Twitter. That's like fourth person. I

668
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: don't know what that is frontier alright, So, but there

669
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: is something to take out of that that there, this

670
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: drama is unlikely to be one that extends to a

671
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: retirement or some malarkey like that. Now it's just a

672
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: matter of his feet getting right and then complaining about

673
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: the helmet all season. I imagine, Well that's the thing.

674
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I really I hope he does not have

675
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: a concussion for you know, many reasons. But if he does,

676
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna go crazy. All right, Um, got another one

677
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: win or lose or anything he got. Let's uh, let's

678
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: make the Jaguars backup quarter back situation the loser here.

679
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are familiar with those

680
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: stylings of Gardner Minshew, uh, sixth round pick out of

681
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: Washington State. That's their backup quarterback right now. Totally familiar

682
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. They went the quarterbacks in the Jacks game

683
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: against the Ravens went ten for forty four yards. You

684
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: don't see that in a sixty minute game. They didn't

685
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: top a hundred yards total. It's the worst quarterback like

686
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: backup quarterback situation I think I've ever seen. Just I

687
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess it's tied because at some point

688
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: you can't you have a sixth round rookie. You have

689
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: uh Tanner Lee who they're not even trying, Alex McGoo whatever.

690
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: It is like if if Nick Foles misses a game

691
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: or two, like they're they're done. I mean, they're gonna

692
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: try to get someone else, I would imagine. But it's

693
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: kind of crazy that they're paying Blake Bortles sixteen million

694
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: dollars on the cap um right now while they don't

695
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: even have a backup quarterback. Maybe they should have kept

696
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles the phone. I mean, if you're got to

697
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: pay them that much money, I know it it would have

698
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: been awkward. Just made him the backup. He'd be a

699
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: lot better than these guys. Some might say they've handled

700
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: the Blake Bortles thing wrong at different points in the

701
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: whole pay You know, it's funny you bring up Nick

702
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: not a big deal, but I just it's not brought

703
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: up to bring up Nick Foles, who left the depth

704
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: chart of Philly. Maybe it's not quite as dire as

705
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: it is in Jacksonville, but with this Nick Sudfeld injury

706
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: and in Philly, uh and Nick Foles hasn't played really

707
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: enough to worry about if he's a guy could stay

708
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: on the field, but you could question it. Carson Wentz,

709
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: we know the last two years he's had a lot

710
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: of injuries, and they have Cody Kessler and Clayton Thorson.

711
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: I mean, how excited you about that backgroup? If you

712
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: did like a two on two battle royal between those,

713
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean I would take Kessler, although he was on

714
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: the Jags last year and and rejected by them, but

715
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: he's at least had some moments it's been in the league.

716
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: Not who you want as your backup though, backup portorex important.

717
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: You gotta have it buttoned down. Just quote Charlie Casserly,

718
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: what what is it again? Greg? The most important person

719
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: in your zation see as your quarterback, and the second

720
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: most important person in your organization is your backup quarterback

721
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: in the third Yeah, keeps going, chev coach the third quarterback. Um,

722
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: I got a winner. I got another winner. Here we go.

723
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: Long time believers in the Jared Cook All Pro season.

724
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what. Yeah, it's I mean, we've been

725
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: waiting a long time. He's now thirty two, by the way,

726
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: so if it's not happening now, it's probably never gonna happen.

727
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: I know. It's not as old as it used to be.

728
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: Like some guys now just get better. Yeah, but well

729
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: they don't block as much. It's time. It's time for

730
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: him to put together a true Pro Bowl type season

731
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: or perhaps All Pro. So you got remember Dan Campbell, sure,

732
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: the former jack Man. Yes, also former Cowboys tight end

733
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: for Cowboys tight end head coach. Anyway, he's the tight

734
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: ends coach in New Orleans. Uh, and he's been raving

735
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: about Cook and says it's easy to see the impact

736
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna make. And uh. Mike Triple at the ESPN

737
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: said that Cook has emerged. His quote to go to

738
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: pass catcher for Drew Brees. And when you factor in

739
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: all the tools, he's a toolsy guy. That's that's a

740
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: little industry term. He's got all the skill level skill

741
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: in the world to translate to a yard you know,

742
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: fifteen touchdown monster season. If Drew Brees is Drew Brees

743
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: playing in that dome piling up all the thirty points

744
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: a game. This is gonna be the year right when

745
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: you burn fantasy footballers year after year after year. It

746
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: takes a few years for him to understand what's really

747
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: going on. And for the last few years, Jared Cook

748
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: has been a really good football player. Last year he

749
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: was outstanding. I thought he was the best player in

750
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: the Raiders offense by far. Yeah, that's that's absolutely true.

751
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: He is their number two receiver. I mean, you're gonna

752
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: have Thomas and he's number two, and it's probably not

753
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: even it's a pretty big drop off to number three.

754
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: I'm with you, all right, keep going west to us

755
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: with anything. Uh, let's do one quick compliment on the

756
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: Jets and one quick compliment on the Browns. Jets winners.

757
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: Those uniforms for snazzy, thank you and um. I didn't

758
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: get to watch the game before we talked about it

759
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: on Friday. Darnald was He looked great. I love how

760
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: he moves into pocket. You know, we always talked about

761
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: Romo saying his spatial awareness he was phenomenal. And then

762
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: the Brown's blue chip talent Baker Mayfield calming out looking

763
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: like an absolute stud and Myles Garrett just abusing the

764
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: Redskins left tackle with a move that you don't see

765
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: from many defensive ends. We can worry about their offensive

766
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: line and it's absolutely a factor. But I'm going to

767
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: continue to believe in the Browns because they have better

768
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: players than most teams. That that was one of mine

769
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: as well. I was more focused on the two thousand

770
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: eight QB class. Baker looked great, Yes, Donald looked great,

771
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson did some things. Rosen and Allen maybe a

772
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: little bit more of a mixed bag, but Um especially,

773
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: and I'm take my Jets fandom out of it. I

774
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: just it's not this is my brain just watching Donald,

775
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: that this guy when this season is over, is going

776
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: to be seen as a star quarter. I truly think

777
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: that's half the battle. He is. Just that he has

778
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: all the tools and his ability to move like you

779
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: were saying, West, to go through progressions, the ability in

780
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: which he's picked up this Adam Gates offense very quickly.

781
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a really matt nice match together.

782
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if Adam Gates is gonna survive in

783
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: New York, but I do think his sensibilities as a

784
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: coach is going to lead to the Jets offense being

785
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not I'm gonna go nuts here, and maybe

786
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: they could be a top ten unit like they were

787
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: in that Ryan fitz yere back into the top ten.

788
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: They have the ability to put up points I think

789
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: this year. Um, so I'm very excited and Mayfield, Yeah,

790
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: you're right, there's you could say maybe they'll you could

791
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: go the football uh uh, the Farmer's Almanac route and

792
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: say maybe other all these other things are going to

793
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: go against them. I know, I always call it the

794
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: farmer's almanac. Um. And maybe they're an Aman team. But

795
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: Mayfield is gonna be a superstar in this league. Yes,

796
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: I think he's already there. Yes, there, And there's nothing

797
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: you can see from the preseason p neer to tell

798
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: you that's not gonna be the case. I I do

799
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: think the preseason open to the Redskins. Uh, not a concern.

800
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna put the Dwayne Haskins his chances of

801
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: starting Week one as like a loser. Not that not

802
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: that he you know, that's it's expected a mid round

803
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: first you know, first round pick. It really again goes

804
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: with you know, the the beat writers for the Athletic

805
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: have been saying this for weeks that they don't think

806
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: it's that close between Haskins, Keenum and McCoy. That Haskins

807
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: is trailing because he just has too many miss throws

808
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: where there's no one in his face and he just

809
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: misses the throw. And that's what happened on his interception. UH.

810
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: In the preseason opener, he actually had two overall, he

811
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: made a couple of really great throws again what you

812
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: hear from practice, uh, and then the rest of it

813
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: was pretty up and down, and Jay Gruden more or

814
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: less indicated to Peter King that that he is trailing

815
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: those other two guys. I think you gotta make a

816
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: choice between McCoy and Keenum because I think you want

817
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: to get Haskins as many reps as he possibly can.

818
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: He'll probably play at some point this year. Just pick

819
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: one of the other guys so he can split it

820
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: instead of having it go in three ways. But just

821
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: pick one of those other guys, because I just don't

822
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to be the Week one starter at

823
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: this point. Gruden said he's gonna he hoped to pick

824
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback by the end of the third preseason, but

825
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: that's that's still two more weeks away. Just I don't know.

826
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: I liked Haskin's arm and I liked his mobility. It

827
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: was better than what I thought it was advertised. But

828
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: his decision making, to me, he's just too young and

829
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: raw and inexperienced. He plays a little bit too much

830
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: like Jason Jameis Winston, just loose with the ball. Is

831
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: there any chance that Daniel Jones starts before Dwayne Haskins. Yes,

832
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a I think that's more likely. What

833
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: I definitely wouldn't go more likely. I think there's a chance.

834
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: Sure if their giants started out really poorly and the

835
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: Redskins didn't, because Daniel Jones looked really impressive. I mean

836
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: it was only one position, and I guess if I'm

837
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: the coach, I'm taking him out after that one too,

838
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: because it was perfect. He looked, he looked so much

839
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: more athletically gifted than I was led to believe. He

840
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: was supposed to play a second series, and then there

841
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: was a lightning storm. So his combine their wild they're

842
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: they're up there almost with like luck and and Cam Newton.

843
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: I mean he is very athletic. Well, he's playing behind

844
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL on

845
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: a team going nowhere. So that's why he's gonna play earlier.

846
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: All right, we brought up something good about the Jets.

847
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: Here's a negative. Their secondary is probably the reason they

848
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: won't be a playoff team. And the latest news Truemate

849
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: Johnson um yanked his hamstring in practice and he's out indefinitely.

850
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: And this, uh, you know, gross mismanagement in the Mike

851
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: mccagnan era, first and foremost was offensive line, but never

852
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: being able to put together a secondary uh during his

853
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: time there. This is who they have right now, their

854
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: top three cornerbacks. Get ready, buckle up, New York, it's

855
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: on in New York City. Darryl Roberts, Brian Pool, who

856
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: the Falcon said we don't want you around no more,

857
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: and a rookie Kyron Brown who's undrafted out of Akron.

858
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: They have no other quarterback on their roster with NFL experience,

859
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: so Trueman Johnson they're only chance to be okay at cornerback.

860
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: It was if Truemain Johnson played like the guy the

861
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: Jets paid for, which he certainly didn't last year. If

862
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be down with an injury, and he

863
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: missed games last year with an injury as well. This

864
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: is going to be a unit that will be lit

865
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: up and will kill them all your Jamal Adams today

866
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: just today said he volunteered to play cornerback, which I

867
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: imagine wasn't jest, but it tells you just how serious

868
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: this problem is. Uh, seeing both inside and outside the organization, well,

869
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: the combination of that cornerback group with a lack of

870
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: a real edge rushing presence is easily their biggest issue.

871
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: I think when you look at the best teams in

872
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: the league, they have really deep defensive backfields. The one

873
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: thing that you can match up all sorts of different

874
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: matchups because it's two thousand nineteen, you're gonna have to

875
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: stop three, four or five receivers on every play, you know,

876
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: not just white outs, but tighter and and you're right,

877
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: they're just not deep. They have a good safety deal,

878
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: but even after their starting safeties, it's like the the

879
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: depth just isn't there. And I think that's if there's

880
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: anything stopping the Jets for being a playoff team, it's

881
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: that it's the past defense because that includes the past rush.

882
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: I think too that the past defense it's gonna just

883
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine. You never know. You could, you

884
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: could coach it up and it could be great, but

885
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine them being near average. A lot

886
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: of pressure on Gregg Williams to figure out a way

887
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: to scheme it up. West, I have another loser clarity

888
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: on passing Fearence replace standards. I am thoroughly confused after

889
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: watching No. One every game but the Jaguars game. UM,

890
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand how you will see replays where the

891
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: defensive player hits the receiver before the ball gets there

892
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: enough to cause it. And sometimes it will be passing

893
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: a few in Farence, and sometimes it won't. And I

894
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: am only lead to assume that this will be the

895
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: case all year long, because that's what a judgment call is.

896
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: It's funny, West, because I had the new past interference

897
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: rule under winners and that this has nothing to do

898
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: whether I believe in the new pass It's just how

899
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: was it operated here? Some facts. Fifteen challenge flags thrown

900
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: in Week one, including the Hall of Fame game, only

901
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: one was overturned. UM six point per seven six point seven.

902
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: Per NFL research, there were thirty five pass interference calls

903
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: made in the seventeen games coaches challenge six of them,

904
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: none were overturned. Coaches challenging nine players in which no

905
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: flag was thrown for past interference. One was overturned. That's

906
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: that was in the Jets Giants game. Um. So, to me,

907
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: the fact that it wasn't a big story coming out

908
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: a week one of the preseason is a good thing

909
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: because and Ron Rivera made it clear when we were

910
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: at the NFL Talent Summit. He made a clear that

911
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: they're not looking to reinvent the wheel of how this,

912
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: how this is officiated. They don't want to rock the boat,

913
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: and they did not in Week one. Here. Well, that

914
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: that's all fine and dandy that they don't want to

915
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: rock the boat and the standards are supposed to stay

916
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: what they are, but that's not gonna make any fans

917
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: happy when they see a guy on another team getting

918
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: away with something their player can't get away with. And

919
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: that's what the past interference confusion is. They're trying to

920
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: send a message that they're not going to overturn many plays.

921
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it feels. It feels like they're

922
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: trying to, like, I don't think I don't think Al

923
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: Rivron or the officials wanted this rule, and no, there's

924
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: a place and it's almost like they're gonna try to

925
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: destroy it on some level by never overturning anything or

926
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: minimize it, which I like. I'm with you, Dan, I

927
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: think ultimately it's not the best case scenario. I don't

928
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: know what else could be better. It's not as flat

929
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: out stupid as the old catch role, but it shares

930
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: some of the same things that you're if you're a fan,

931
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: you're looking at a guy do something for another team

932
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: and he gets away with it, but you your guys

933
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: can't do it. All right? You want to do a

934
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: real quick speed round, go through it, back and forth

935
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: one more time. Alright, Greg, give us a quick one.

936
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: How about Jared's did him? The Patriots rookie quarterback? I'm serious.

937
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna it's gonna be a story. They've

938
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: said since the first O t A s They've been shocked,

939
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: how accurate, how good he's looked, how advanced he is.

940
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: He's gotten more reps with the first team than Jacoby

941
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: Brissette or Jimmy garab below Uh or who they draft

942
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: last year. Danny edilne Ever did as a rookie, and

943
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: he's pretty I think you can just tell they like him.

944
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: And he looked great, and Patriots fans are just like

945
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: ready to latch onto the next one. Not not the

946
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's going anywhere, but there's it's someone they're gonna

947
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: also one last Patriots. But Jamie Collins looks ready for

948
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: a reunion. This is gonna drive Mark crazy. I think

949
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: Jamie Collin's gonna have a big year. Nice, nice linebacker.

950
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: The start of the Zach Taylor and Cincinnati West eleven

951
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: penalties for a hundred and fifty yards, fifteen yards, four turnovers. Uh,

952
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: you know the rookie running back got hurt on one

953
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: of the interceptions. Uh, not looking too hot. That's a

954
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: negative on the positive. Well, you know, go on, let's

955
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: be honest about our boy. Varcus Mariotta. He's under he's

956
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: under pressure of the season. Ryan Tannehill very good in

957
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: his debut twelve sixteen thirty yards, two touchdowns, book at

958
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: eight and a half starts for tenny. I'm Bengals quickly.

959
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: The craziest thing I read all last week was Andy

960
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: Dalton threw a touchdown UM two Josh Malone last Thursday,

961
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: and it was the first explosive play touchdown of the

962
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: Bengals training camp. They hadn't had one yet. I hadn't

963
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: had like as in any practice. Is we're talking about

964
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: practice that is Dan and Ireson Pataco and most of

965
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: these I have losers two thousand nineteen Bengals expectations because

966
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: outside of the head coach, I'm not sure what's changed.

967
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: They still have no wide receiver depth, they still have

968
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: bad offensive line, they still have linebackers with no speed.

969
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what's different about the Bengals other than

970
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: the head coach. I wouldn't expect any different results. Um,

971
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: what was the other one? You Mariota and Tannehill. I

972
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: talked about that last week based on what I think

973
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: is going on in that building, and I do think

974
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: they believe in Mariota. But then I watched the game

975
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: and he has admitted in the past he's got footwork problems.

976
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: They looked worse to me just in that one series

977
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: than they did at any time in the past, and

978
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: Tannehill look better than he ever did it with the Dolphins.

979
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: Keeping eye out of Tytoons fans, oh So, David Montgomery

980
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: I talked about when I only saw highlights in then

981
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: I watched the whole Bears game and this is every preseason.

982
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: I have a running back that I'm all in on.

983
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: I love David Montgomery. This guy has the instinct's, patients,

984
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: vision um, receiving skills. He's got the cutting ability. I know,

985
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: he's not explosive, he's not say Kwon Barkley athletically, he

986
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: just looks like he was born to play running back.

987
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: To see the Philip Lindsay of Uh, they're so different. Yeah,

988
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's a guy that I like. Philip Lindsay

989
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: was so different being an undersized, undrafted guy, but also

990
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: a lot more speed based than David Montgomery. Before we

991
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: go and one one Last Loser, it's a robot mindset.

992
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, are you guys familiar with robot mind

993
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: On On Jimmy Garoppolo's wristband. Every day of practice he

994
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: looks down and it says robot mind and that's what

995
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: he has to have. He has to have the robot mindset.

996
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: And they asked him about he said, because he's not

997
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: looking this way or that way, he's not worried about

998
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: anything that's going on he's got to have that robot mindset. Well,

999
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough when you don't have any players

1000
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: on your team. No one's had a worse month than

1001
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: the forty niners. I'm sorry, you're every every day there's

1002
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: a new injury. They lost their swing tackles Shawn Coleman

1003
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: for the season in the opener, and Trent Taylor. They're

1004
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: starting slot receivers now out four to eight weeks. Like

1005
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: everyone has heard. On that team, they're missing seven eight starters.

1006
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: Isn't the goal of a quarterback or any athlete to

1007
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: not be robotic, to be free and easy and lose.

1008
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: Not Russell Wilson, Well, he's the exception of the proson

1009
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: about mindset. All right, that's it for today's show, and that,

1010
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, that's a little tease also that David Montgomery

1011
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: West might talk about him a little bit next week

1012
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: during the Fantasy Extravaganza. I have the luxury right now

1013
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: of not caring about fantasy implications when I talk about

1014
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: David Montgomery. That adds a lot more stress when I

1015
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: have to say, well, how much does what's the guy's name,

1016
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: Michael Davis or what the other guy? Yeah, Mike Davis,

1017
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: who I'm not nearly as high on as you only

1018
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: have to care about it for like fifty four minutes

1019
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: a year, that one episode, and then you're free and clear. Um,

1020
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: I want to say happy birthday to Jack Kansas, my son.

1021
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: Definitely not a yeah, definitely not a listener of the show.

1022
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: But like maybe when I'm old, uh in a retirement home,

1023
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: or I'm living in his basement, or I'm dead, he'll say, oh,

1024
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, let's go back and listen to what dad

1025
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: used to do, and maybe I'll check in on the

1026
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: August two, nineteen show. Well, here's the shout out to

1027
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: my boy. Hey Jack, You've always been ahead of the game. Jack,

1028
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: even at five, mature boy, very ahead of the game,

1029
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: way ahead of his dad. Left handed swing too, He's

1030
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: got the stroke. All right, let's get out of here.

1031
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: Dan Hands is signing off four The mail Man, The

1032
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: Old Boss, and Sweet Sweet Ricky Hollywood Behind the Glass

1033
00:52:47,360 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Jeel Wednesday,