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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, down, Bada, Come on now, Mark, what's you

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Speaker 2: doing with them this morning? Mark?

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Speaker 3: Mark's old school like that, dude, that's our.

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Speaker 2: Old school pop blocking right. Yeah, that's the hardcore battle

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Speaker 4: should be. So, as it turns out, we asked Dean

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Speaker 4: Blandino about this and he was correct. Spitting on somebody

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Speaker 4: is the same as a nut shot in the NFL

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Speaker 4: Trayvon Marrick Well, he was suspended one game without pay

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Speaker 4: for that nut shot that he delivered to Juwan Jennings

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Speaker 4: on Monday Night Football for the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: The best part is he's going to appeal it. Now.

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Speaker 5: We had this.

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Speaker 4: Discussion about Jamar Chase when he spit on Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 5: What exactly is your argument here?

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Speaker 2: Are you appeal Yeah?

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Speaker 5: When you can.

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Speaker 4: Clearly see him take a shot at the guy's balls

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Speaker 4: on television.

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Speaker 2: I mean, social is unforgiving anymore too. By the way,

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Speaker 2: they capture this. I don't know how they be getting

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Speaker 2: these angles where they get it close closed up and

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Speaker 2: close up and zoomed in. He I mean he uppercuted

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Speaker 2: that man in his jangles unapologetically. I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: get the I don't get an appeal. I don't get

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Speaker 3: I meant it as possible explanation for why he would

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Speaker 3: those who haven't seen this video, it is clear as

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Speaker 3: day he was going to punch him closed fist, not

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Speaker 3: a flick, not a backhanded t bag you know, tap, No,

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Speaker 3: he closed fist, uppercut, punched him right to the groin.

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Speaker 3: I mean it looked like he connected to like you

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Speaker 2: Like lifted him off the ground. He made such contact

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Speaker 2: you could him that mass Nuts was screaming that one

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Speaker 5: What happened?

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Speaker 2: That hurts?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just I'm trying to figure out because it's

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Speaker 2: Hurt, bad looking for that man.

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Speaker 5: Who are going to hear the appeal? How long is

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Speaker 5: the appeal process? How long?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 5: What are we talking about here? Is this like a

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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, there's the video evidence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one won't be long. I just wonder again

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Speaker 2: when they're appealing, are they appealing like for a lesser

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Speaker 2: because this you can't be trying to say you're innocent

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Speaker 2: just got it, you have to appeal it. Like are

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Speaker 2: Back, Like he just never know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't No, I don't know how that works. But

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Speaker 4: Though I also would think that maybe his argument could be, Look,

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Speaker 4: it was a punch, it's not as painful as like

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Speaker 4: a backhand flip. Like if you backhand flip somebody, there's

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Speaker 2: There, No that hurts.

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Speaker 5: That hurts more than a punch, just does.

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Speaker 2: That's not no way.

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Speaker 4: Backhand flip, a backhand flip, just like one of those

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Speaker 4: like you're just like smacking them backhand.

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Speaker 2: That hs. When I get back in studio, we're going

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Speaker 5: Okay, but only yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: An upper cut punch or a backhand flip.

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Speaker 3: You know what's interesting? Hold on, hold on, hold all right.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's feels so emboldened to talk this way about

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Speaker 3: a nutshot because he actually paid off that bet that

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Speaker 3: he owed for Tony Romo. Maybe he finally paid it off,

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Speaker 3: and now he's like, yeah, go.

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Speaker 2: Please go ahead there just bone yeah, yeah, perfect.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to get taken out of context one

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Speaker 4: time on this network and then people got to play

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Speaker 2: I wasn't here for it, so I don't you know,

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Speaker 2: that's y'all's thing. I wasn't. I wasn't around for that.

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Speaker 3: That's your thing now, buddy, because.

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Speaker 2: You would have had to you You got to pay out,

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Speaker 2: like when you when you make a bet of significant

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Speaker 2: you gotta pay, like if it's a and I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'll go as as much just saying even jerseys and

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Speaker 2: stuff like that, you gotta wear something. Then. I don't

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Speaker 2: Dame game, I don't know, but I just know, guys,

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Speaker 2: we're jerseys stuff. I don't think I'm glad we didn't.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad. I was very confident that we would win.

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Speaker 2: I was like, felt like I was protecting you. You know,

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Speaker 3: It was wrong.

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Speaker 5: What was the bet between you guys?

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Speaker 3: It wasn't one.

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Speaker 2: I guess there wasn't a bet.

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Speaker 3: Are we sure?

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Speaker 2: I'm almost I don't know. Anyways, we know you had

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Speaker 4: That's that's by the way, if Tony gets ten million

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Speaker 5: I can't here you go.

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Speaker 3: I think Jonas paid it off.

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Speaker 4: Punching, Yeah, do whatever you want the time and place

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Speaker 4: and by the way, look around. I was ahead of

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: There's these kung fu dudes that like kick each other

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Speaker 2: that like that and get hit with logs that I've.

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Speaker 3: Seen that and they show like how how not allowed

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Speaker 2: Yes, that can't be real, right, it's real, it's real,

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Speaker 2: It is real.

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Speaker 5: But how do you lose how do you lose feeling

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Speaker 2: Because I think they learn how to remove them from hanging,

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Speaker 2: and they're able to actually, you know, hold and suck

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Speaker 3: It's like a whack of them mole. They just suck

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Speaker 2: Suck them up bruh kick.

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Speaker 5: Have you seen?

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Speaker 4: Have you seen what they'll do to train fighters. They'll

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Speaker 4: train their shins. They'll take a stick, you know, they'll

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Speaker 4: take a stick and they'll they'll just run it down

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Speaker 4: their shin constantly.

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Speaker 5: So you lose this feeling in your ship.

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Speaker 2: Can you do that with you that's called grasping.

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Speaker 4: So you can't do that with your ballbag, I would assume.

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Speaker 4: So there's got to be some optical illusions for those

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Speaker 2: Or they just aren't endowed. Maybe I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 2: you have to be born into that to be able

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Speaker 2: to to practice that discipline, because I know I ain't

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Speaker 2: see no no brothers doing it. Man, I ain't see

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Speaker 2: no black folks doing it. Man, only well, what's that

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Speaker 2: supposed to be that Maybe that's just it just is

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Speaker 2: not possible for that discipline to apply to a brother

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to go off on a complete tangent

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Speaker 2: So he did.

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Speaker 3: But have you seen the guys who act like they're

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Speaker 3: using energy to like strike people and all that. Have

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Speaker 3: you guys seen that stuff? Wait? What Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 3: like the stupidest content out there. But these guys act

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Speaker 2: I did see that, and he taught his pupil. It

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Speaker 2: then she multiple did it and then he passed out.

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Speaker 2: She hit him with so much energy that they had

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really proved she hit him.

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Speaker 2: His body went lifeless. They had to catch master. Master

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Speaker 2: was wiping his face. He started started sweating profusely. Finally,

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Speaker 2: when he putting that energy on him, Doug that sai.

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Speaker 2: It's a funny video. I do, I do recall that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I've seen that she hit him with that energy build up. Boy,

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Speaker 2: if I could learn that, bruh. Imagine if somebody like

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett or Michael Parsons or somebody learned that transfer

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Speaker 2: and of energy like that, and then you just come

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Speaker 2: off on the pass rush and you hit him with

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Speaker 2: that energy and they just dropped just three hundred pound

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Speaker 2: or just drop bloom. You know, then chip blocking wouldn't

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Speaker 2: wouldn't even matter anymore because you drop.

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Speaker 3: The NFL dang. I imagine Jonas is rushing off the

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Speaker 3: edge doing all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be interesting.

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Speaker 5: I'd get there.

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Speaker 2: It'd be interesting to see like a guy built and

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Speaker 2: look like Jonas being able to like just own dudes

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Speaker 2: on the field. That would be interesting. Yeah, that supposed to. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm just end.

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Speaker 3: You know, I wonder what Jonas would have liked his

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Speaker 3: trash talk would have sound.

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Speaker 4: You know, you can't you can't envision one hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty one pounds flying off the edge just lighting side.

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Speaker 2: I can not your one hundred and eighty one pounds.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I weigh more than DeVante Smith.

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Speaker 2: For what it's worth there you go.

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Speaker 5: So it's a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Which is the courts please, It's just slippery.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's you know, anything to the court, anything

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Speaker 5: Any excuse.

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Speaker 3: I can give two rips about whatever the court looks like.

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Speaker 4: Not too many publican plains, unlike the NBA, where you

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Speaker 2: So it all makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Jonas, I agree, what up sticks? Crows and a couple

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Speaker 2: Why am I weirdos bring us into the show? Bruh?

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Speaker 2: Up sticks? It's my song Joker and the Thief, Baby

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Speaker 5: Trying to get you fired up?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want to be fired up?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I got a volleyball game today, though,

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Speaker 5: Are you in state college or you in Oregon?

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Speaker 2: I'm in Jersey. I'm in Jersey.

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Speaker 3: He's all over the place. Man, this dude's got the place.

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Speaker 2: I got Rutgers twice this week. So I got Rutgers.

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Speaker 5: When do you come back?

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Speaker 2: It was interesting these days man.

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Speaker 4: Never, I mean like this is like this is the

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Speaker 2: All right, did you guys see did you guys see

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Speaker 2: controlled by you know, the league, by the BA. Do

445
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: you think that changes if you're able to start making

446
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: your own deals and making your own money, how does

447
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: that look? Because I always felt like we were forced,

448
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: Like I didn't sign my GLA coming out of college.

449
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: I didn't. I did not sign with you know, my

450
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: life is in agreement. I didn't sign my likeness away.

451
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to control my likeness and understand more about

452
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: how my name, image and likeness was being used. So

453
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: I had a whole thing with that, you know, with

454
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: my jerseys and cards and stuff like that. There was

455
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 2: a whole thing. But what does that do for athletes? Now?

456
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: You know, going into the league, if you if you're understanding,

457
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: you can use the league shield and use the league

458
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: as leveraged to build your brand. I wonder how that

459
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: alters the business of what the shield represent and represents

460
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 2: and how it's able to leverage the name, image and

461
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: likenesses of these these players that are coming in that

462
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh oh, I'm just curious. I mean, is

463
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: it perfect timing? Is it perfect timing that Shador Sanders

464
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: has now come into the league and it's taking it over.

465
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 5: I mean, he it is a takeover.

466
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: It's a smart deal man that's.

467
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 5: Taking over this ship. Oh, I know that.

468
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the first deal of its type.

469
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 3: Maybe the first that we're made aware of, because Shador

470
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: and co. Seem to always make you aware of everything.

471
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: I do think like the deal in theory is great

472
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 3: and it's probably what a lot of deals have been

473
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: done in the past in regards to viewership on things right,

474
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 3: and that's typically how it works. All you're really doing

475
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 3: in social media is you're attributing. However, many views like

476
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: you talked about to then say you should want to

477
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: be involved with this brand for advertisers, right, Like that's

478
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: ultimately what it's about.

479
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: Sure that brand can go through the player versus sving

480
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: to go through the team, you know, or the league

481
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: to get it done.

482
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's also there's also sponsors that aren't a

483
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: part of Like they're not an NFL sponsor, but they

484
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 3: could do that. I mean, they could do it in

485
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,239
Speaker 3: college now, they can do that in the NFL. They

486
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: always could, you know, but if you're talking larger brands,

487
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: what if larger brand and large and larger brands would

488
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 3: have to do so they can select to do so,

489
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: but it depends on what the GLA states. But there's

490
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 3: still some one off campaigns of sponsors who only have

491
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: a single athlete in it. You know, you don't always

492
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: have to have a group of athletes to be a

493
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: part of that. But it all depends on if he

494
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: signed the GLA or not.

495
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: I just I'm curious as to how that n I L.

496
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: I didn't I guess I never stopped to think about

497
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 2: how NIL could impact the National Football League, you know,

498
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 2: but this is some way, this is a way that

499
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 2: it could possibly impact it.

500
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: What do you think is different that he's doing that

501
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: hasn't been done.

502
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: Before, well, because you don't have to. I guess it's

503
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: the control of the likeness of the player, like no

504
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: one's ever. Really, I don't want to say no one's ever,

505
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: But if you think about.

506
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: It, guys are the way you're outside of you know,

507
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: you just can't worry that your team or NFL logo.

508
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: That's that's correct, But the usage of your your likeness

509
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: by the league or by the team like that's now

510
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: has to become a conversation because now I'm looking at

511
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: the fact that, Okay, if your contract, your player contract,

512
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: you have to look at that contract and see what

513
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: that represents for how your likeness is being used. I

514
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: don't know that. Is there a ton of language and

515
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: I'm rusty on it. Is there a ton of language

516
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: in your player contract that talks about the usage of

517
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: your likeness.

518
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: My experience in all of that was like, if your

519
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: likeness was going to be used in some capacity, you

520
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: were going to be you know, contacted about that. There's

521
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 3: usually a separate deal with a different brand or partner.

522
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: It wasn't like they would just use it and you

523
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 3: wouldn't receive anything back for it, Like there would be

524
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: a conversation there about that and how that would work

525
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: and if they if you wanted to be a part of.

526
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: That or not. And what's that is that in the

527
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: con is that contractually stay separate couries?

528
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: Is that just a it's a separate contract.

529
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: So the team would have to bring a separate contract

530
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: altogether to you to represent a I.

531
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: Will give you an apples apples comparison. It's like right

532
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 3: now with Scott Shapiro emails you and says, we would

533
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 3: like to do this for FSR. And you know they're

534
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: using your dam in likeness to promote a product or

535
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 3: a good that we do on the show, and you

536
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 3: know it's within your contract. Right. So there's certain elements

537
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: of it, whether there maybe additional conversation or opportunity, and

538
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: there's certain elements that you're probably not receiving all of it,

539
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 3: right m M.

540
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: I just I find it to be interesting because if

541
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: you're controlling your name, your image, and your likeness, where

542
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: does that Where does that line start? You know, where

543
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: does it begin? Where does it end as to how

544
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: you're being used, whether it's highlights, whatever it may be.

545
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: I just wonder, I just wonder does that change how

546
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: it's how it is.

547
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: I don't think any of it's changed. I think what's

548
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: more likely to change is there to be more of

549
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 3: a grid blessing agreements the college level. But you know

550
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: that's that's more likely to change when they unionize and

551
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: there becomes greater steps towards a professional sport as opposed

552
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 3: to amateurism. I think there's more likelihood the college football

553
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: realm change is not NFL.

554
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 5: Maybe you can write a better song with all that

555
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 5: money you got.

556
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: Well, another song, because we only got this one?

557
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 2: Right?

558
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: Does he have other songs?

559
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. Not not well versed on his catalog.

560
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: I want about Joe Burrow.

561
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Joe.

562
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: Is this one or LaMelo? Which one? Or li Angelo better?

563
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

564
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

565
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 4: I mean if we should ask Petros, we should get

566
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 4: like play both for Petros and see what he thinks.

567
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: But I think he's gonna goell ball, you know, I.

568
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: Think that you think so? I mean, that's his intro song.

569
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: He's tired of it though, little you should do perfect timing,

570
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: all right.

571
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 5: So Joe Burrow's back.

572
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: The Cincinnati Bengals are taking on the Baltimore Ravens that

573
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 4: may or may not be part of our picks against

574
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: the spread coming up next hour on the show. And

575
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: so you know, the there is some optimism there with

576
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: Burrow back that that he's been a full participant and

577
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: he's gonna go ahead and try and give it a go.

578
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 4: And here's my question. If he goes out there and

579
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: they do what I think a lot of people expect

580
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: them to do and lose, then we're just gonna just

581
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: gonna keep on keeping on, just keep keep rolling him

582
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: out there.

583
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 3: And he's getting paid a lot of money. I know

584
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: where people are going with this. I love the fact

585
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: that he's not gonna sit. He's you know, gonna play

586
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: if he's healthy enough to play, as you should. And

587
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: it would first off, it be tough for Zach Tiller

588
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: to watch his team out there not having their starter play.

589
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: If he's healthy enough, that might end up being his

590
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: demise as a head coach. But also for the fans,

591
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: you know, I think there's a real element of man

592
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: these fans by season tickets to see Joe Burrow play

593
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: in large part the rest of the team too, but

594
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: let's not be ignorant to it. They want to see

595
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, to Jamar Chase and t Higgins and they

596
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: want to watch that, you know, continue throughout the rest

597
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: of the season if he's healthy enough to go. So

598
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: I think if you're going to play the conspiracy theory

599
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: of why you'd sit him, obviously he's dealt with injuries,

600
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: so you don't want to have to have him suffer

601
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: something else that caused him to miss next year. But

602
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: there's also the thought of if you got three and

603
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: eight and this thing goes the right way for you,

604
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: maybe end up with a top five pick and you're

605
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: either drafting someone to replace Trey Hendrickson, who I think

606
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: we all believe this is last year there. Yeah, so

607
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: you get an edge rusher potentially the best one coming

608
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: out of college, or you know, who knows whatever else

609
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: they need o line, you know, or think a trade back,

610
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: and then maybe a couple of players who end up

611
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: helping out this roster, in particular on defense that has

612
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: really really struggled. So there is some merit I think,

613
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: to like the thought of, well, it's not the worst

614
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: thing in the world. The Bengals finished with three or

615
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: four wins, but come on, man, like every fan out

616
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: there showering down skyline Chili with some greater's ice cream

617
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: after that, they were waiting to see Joe Burrow back

618
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: in that uniform.

619
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: M Joe Burrow kind of looks like Boomer Assassin, a

620
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: little bit like a younger Boomer some some way, somehow,

621
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: like there's a relation there. It's kind of weird. I

622
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: used to think it was just mcaulay cockin Cochin, but

623
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: it's kind of like some Boomers in there. I'll say this,

624
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: it's been a bad season for them. I think without

625
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, they they've won one game and lost the rest.

626
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: He is clearly a difference maker. Uh and and so

627
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: getting him back I think does I guess serve the

628
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: purpose of the conversation that the North has been so

629
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: bad this year. I mean it's still it still does

630
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: maybe have some lingering life to possibly what what the

631
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: season could end up being, you know, how can end

632
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: up playing out. But I think Joe Burrow definitely is

633
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: is a catalyst for them. Obviously not just because of

634
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 2: how he's paid, but I mean the way he plays

635
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: it shows that he makes a difference for this team. Yeah,

636
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: I know, you guys, you know have said the defense

637
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: and you know that they're you can't outscore defense. That

638
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: can't stop an offense. I get that they're awful. They

639
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: aren't they aren't very good, and and Joe Burrow obviously

640
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to do with that aspect of the game.

641
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: But I do think there's a lot at stake. I

642
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: think there's a lot on the line. You know, they

643
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: they're paying out a lot of money to a lot

644
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: of these players that are on that offense side of

645
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: the ball. And if you've always you know, kind of

646
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: have justified things that way, you know, I think that

647
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: you have to show that you can be a better team,

648
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: even if it doesn't mean a playoff Berth. You just

649
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: got to show that your team is going in the

650
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: right direction. And I think that getting you know, Burrow

651
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: back out there on the field is probably the only

652
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: way that they have a legitimate opportunity of being able

653
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: to accomplish that. You know, at this point in the season, it.

654
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 5: Just feels like a wasted year.

655
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: It feels like a great quarterback and great players on

656
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: offense who have had another year wasted. And it doesn't

657
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: feel like the defense is one player away. It feels

658
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: like there's several players away. And I just wonder, and

659
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: maybe this is you know, a thought in the back

660
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: of Bengals fans' minds. I just wonder if there are

661
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: a certain population of Bengals fans who look at that

662
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: Super Bowl that they lost, that they very much could

663
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 4: have won and had a lead in against the Rams,

664
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: and look at that and go, that's the closest we're

665
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 4: going to get, like that was our opportunity because windows

666
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: close fast, and it just seems like they've been struggling

667
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: to get anywhere close to what they did that year.

668
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: And meanwhile, Mahomes is going to Super Bowls like you've

669
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: got Lamar Jackson, You've got It's just such a daunting

670
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 4: task in that conference, and they've been nowhere close to

671
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: where they were that year when they went to the

672
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: Super Bowl lost to the Rams, And it just feels

673
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 4: like another year down the drain, another year where he's

674
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: banged up. Can you think of the last time like

675
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: he's gone a season and there's been no issue injury ailment,

676
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: like something's popped up, like he missed, you know, Jake

677
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 4: Browning had to start a bunch of games because he

678
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: missed significant time.

679
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 5: Last year. They were a disaster and whatever.

680
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: You weren't complaining about that when brown came out no.

681
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I think it's important to show the

682
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: family like they do it for Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift.

683
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: I mean, family, why can't you do last year? Last

684
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: year he was healthy. I mean, he played all seventeen games.

685
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: He didn't miss any time, so that that would have

686
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: been last year they were referring to.

687
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: I mean, and then last year what happened. They started

688
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 4: off the season poorly, and then they were scrambling to

689
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: try and make up ground. They were losing games again

690
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: on defense. It just it feels like there's always something

691
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: with this team. There's always an issue. Either he's banged

692
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 4: up or they struggle early in the season, and Zach

693
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 4: Taylor says, we're going to play him in the in

694
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: the preseason this year. We want our start to look differently,

695
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: and it's like, Okay, they win the first couple of games,

696
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 4: hurts his foot, and then it's just a downward slide

697
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: after that. It just feels like there's something. I don't

698
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 4: know if it's snake bit, but there's something that goes

699
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: wrong with this franchise every single year. And it was

700
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: noisy there in the offseason with the Tree Hendrickson stuff

701
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: and the contracts getting done. It just feels like they

702
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 4: had their opportunity. And I wonder if there are people

703
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: and you know, it wasn't Prisco one of those guys

704
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: who said they're going to go to all these super Bowls.

705
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, said they were going to win multiple

706
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: super Bowls in ten years. I just say, we're basically

707
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: going to be on year seven, you know, for him to.

708
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: Be able to clam it ain't gonna happen. That ain't

709
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: gonna happen.

710
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 3: He does sort of walk that back now, which is funny.

711
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 3: You know, if you go back to that twenty twenty

712
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: two season and there's many people at CBS will back

713
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: this up. On Prisco, he was already been just just

714
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: tell me I'm right, tell me all is right. Just

715
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: tell me all was right. We're like, Pete, they got

716
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, they haven't won it. But he's like, no,

717
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: just tell me All was right. Like he wanted to

718
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: announce that he had predicted it right because he knew

719
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: they were going to lose in the Super Bowl and

720
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: he was gonna have to deal with the fallout. So

721
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: he was trying his best to make sure people would

722
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: contract be like nope, Like, yeah, yeah, Pete, you're right,

723
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: But that's Pete for you. You know.

724
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: I mean, do you think Zach Taylor's back, because I

725
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: know it's hard to punish a guy verse quarters he

726
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 4: should be, but I mean they've missed the playoffs three

727
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 4: straight years and they're gonna miss this year.

728
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 5: So that the three straight years they've.

729
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: Missed the playoffs. It just at some point, I know

730
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: they're patient. They gave Marvin Lewis h.

731
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: So so Q said he should be back. Should he

732
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: be back Jonas?

733
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: I think he's earned the opportunity to be back. But

734
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: if for whatever reason, they get antsy and decide, you

735
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: know what, we need to see more from this team.

736
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 4: We're not happy with the direction. That's the most coveted

737
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 4: job in the league immediately, because any coach anywhere goes, wait,

738
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: I can work with Joe Burrow. That's my starting point.

739
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 4: I'll take that. I'll figure out the defense.

740
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: I would push back a little bit because I think

741
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: most coaches are taking jobs. Yes, they want to work

742
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: with Burrow. He's one of the best talents, no doubt

743
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: in the league. Jim Harball left to go to the

744
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: Chargers to work with Justin Herbert, and Justin Herbert is

745
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: one of the best talents in the league. The truth

746
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: in the matter is there's more than just the quarterback.

747
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: Like I would actually probably prioritize the ownership group. And

748
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: that's where, again not to take shots at the Bengals ownership.

749
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: You know they've done a good job with how much

750
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 3: money they put into it. They probably maximize more with

751
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: less than anyone else in the league. But there is

752
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: that always hanging over their head, and that is something

753
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: that like as much as attractive as it would be,

754
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: got to fix the defense. You have to rebuild up

755
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: that side of the ball. You have to figure out

756
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: what way to keep you know, Burrow healthy. Tough division

757
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 3: to plan, and you've got an ownership group that doesn't

758
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: want to spend a ton of money. Now they've done

759
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: so a little bit more recently Jamar Chase t Higgins,

760
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: but then you find, you know, the Trey Hendrickson deal

761
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: where they're basically going to have to kind of send

762
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 3: him on his way after this year. So I just

763
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: I look at and think, yes, because of Burrow, it's

764
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: without a doubt an attractive job, but I think you've

765
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: got to be careful too, of putting yourself in bed

766
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: with an organization that has tended to not want to

767
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: push the resources there or expand their scouting department to

768
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: be the same as other organizations out there that have

769
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 3: a very robust scouting department and all that goes along

770
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: with that. I mean, they don't even have an indoor Dude,

771
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: they've got a bubble. I mean, no disrespect, but like,

772
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: come on, like they literally you have to walk across

773
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: underneath the overpass and there's a bubble on the other side.

774
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 5: It worse practice. Today, it's at the Bounce House. Temperatures

775
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 5: are in the thirties. We're gonna play in the Bouts

776
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 5: House today, all right. So let me ask you this

777
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 5: that you.

778
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: Should take some Louisiana hot sauce with a why can

779
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: do it though, that is what I would say, And

780
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: make sure that they use that original Louisiana hot sauce,

781
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, with the three simple ingredients, and use it

782
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: on your plate, you know, because it'll turn that food

783
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: in that facility into a winner, and it had to

784
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: turn your food into a winner as well. No matter

785
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: what day it is, no matter where you are, make

786
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: sure you get some original Louisiana hot sauce with what

787
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: you're eating, add a little bit to it and that

788
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: Louisiana hot. Yeah, you will enjoy it.

789
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: Make sure you buy you some both.

790
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: You guys have spoken highly of the Giants ownership, which

791
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 4: is a better job if the Bengals job opens up

792
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: Cincinnati or the.

793
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: Giants, you have more talent and sensey, but you do

794
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: have the potential of a better ownership situation, better leadership

795
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: situation in New York. And you know that New York

796
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: is MO devated to win as well. They they will,

797
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: they will do what they think it takes to to

798
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: build a winner. Now. I don't know what's happened as

799
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: of late. It could be the GM situation, Like I know,

800
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 2: it was much more it was much more stable under

801
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: the reign of Ernie A. Corsi and than he left

802
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: it to. I want to say, Reese, I believe I

803
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: think they they did a fine job. But I thought

804
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: there was a decline that started to take place. I

805
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: don't know that they've at any point really recovered from

806
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: that era of time and how they were bringing players

807
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: in or even you know, post like maybe you just

808
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: say post Tom Coughlin. You know, tenure there as well.

809
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: I mean, it just hasn't hasn't looked the same, But

810
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 2: I think the opportunity to build it into a winner

811
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: is probably greater and better as an organization in New York.

812
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: But I don't know sincey that well, I just know

813
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: based off of what I listened to, you know, what

814
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: Q says about him. I mean, I have heard the

815
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 2: reputation of how cheap they are, and obviously that plays

816
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 2: out in the media, but I mean, hey, I mean

817
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: giants didn't want to pay pay Saquon, you know, and

818
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's organizationally speaking, because we got

819
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: an opportunity to hear those exchanges take place. It sounded like,

820
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: you know, Mayor didn't want want to lose Saquon, but

821
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: he's trusting the people he's hired to make those decisions.

822
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: So I would say New York, but it seems like

823
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: since he has the better roster, at least has better

824
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: pieces to be able to build that. But some would

825
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: argue that, I don't know, they got a good defense.

826
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say ownership group Giants probably with the

827
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: amount of money they've spent and what they're with their

828
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: track record, you say, I late, they've been through a

829
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 3: lot of head coaches, but at the same time they're

830
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 3: also trying to get find the answer and to get

831
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: it right. But I think the more attractive job would

832
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: probably be Cincinnati, and just because Burrow, I mean, unless

833
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: like coach feels really like he's really tied into Jackson Dart,

834
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: I don't you know, I'm not. He's so unproven at

835
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: this point as far as what he is. I think

836
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 3: you'd rather feel safer going to the Bengals, who've also

837
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: been patient in the past with some of their head coaches,

838
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 3: which is why I think they'll still keep Zach Taylor.

839
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: But I think, you know, the Burrow attracting this of

840
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: that would outweigh not having really any ability to bring

841
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: in your guy. I mean, that's one of the thoughts

842
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: behind it, is you're coming in there taking over a

843
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: team that you've got a quarterback. He's gonna be going

844
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: into a second year. I mean, he's in his rookie

845
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: year now, but he's going to a second year. You've

846
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: got him for another at least two three years, so

847
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: you better feel really, really good about it. Otherwise it's

848
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: gonna be hard to move on from him. If you

849
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: don't feel like he's your guy. And that's how most

850
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: of those head coaching changes, you know work. You know,

851
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: they want to bring in someone who they feel like

852
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: is their guy or have their pick at quarterback if

853
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: they're gonna be in bed with them.

854
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,520
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855
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,960
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856
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857
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858
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859
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863
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Speaker 2: Well, Jonas and q Speaking of tools, you're going to

864
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: want to make sure your tool is strong enough to

865
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: get the job done. And sometimes them jobs call for well,

866
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: a strong, sturdy tool. If you know what I mean, Well,

867
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Bluch you and you know what it

868
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: isn't just a tablet. It's a cheap code for your tool,

869
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:09,279
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870
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:15,320
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871
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,760
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872
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,960
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873
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,239
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874
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