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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning, buddy, Well happy, happy, happy Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be a great game.

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Speaker 2: penn State. About the kickoff and a little little about

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Speaker 2: seven hours from now. Cannot wait for that one. Lots

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Speaker 2: to get to. Good morning, my man, Fitzie.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Good sir. How are we feeling? You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm gonna tell you? I know we got a

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Speaker 4: lot of football to get into. Can I tell you something?

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Speaker 4: As a lifelong diehard one week Dodgers fan, I'm just

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Speaker 4: I'm out here now, like shopping for some World Series merch.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready for this moment. I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 4: life has prepared me. I waited a long time to

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Speaker 4: commit to a baseball team. You know, it feels good

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Speaker 4: that I waited for that commitment because now I get

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Speaker 4: a World Series championship I feel great about. But I

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Speaker 4: will tell you you'd be proud of me. And I

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Speaker 4: wanted to tell you this in person, as we say

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Speaker 4: in radio, like even though we're not actually in person.

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Speaker 4: I want to tell you this this morning, after that

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Speaker 4: Friday night that we talked about last week, that connective moment,

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Speaker 4: that oh my god, that Freddie Freeman I told you

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Speaker 4: I'd never forget. I ended up watching that entire damn series.

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Speaker 4: I was just and people listening like, of course you

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Speaker 4: do this for a living. I'm telling you, I don't

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Speaker 4: know the last time in my life I watched the

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Speaker 4: nine inning baseball game and I sat there and I

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Speaker 4: got sucked into every single pitch of this thing. It

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Speaker 4: was amazing. It was riveting. The Dodgers incredible. I've done you.

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Speaker 4: You gotta have a connective moment, right There's got to

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Speaker 4: be something if you don't have a team from the

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Speaker 4: your your parents grew up with, your friends grew up with,

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Speaker 4: Like none of that was part of my life. My

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Speaker 4: dad hated baseball. We grew up in Vegas. Vegas was

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Speaker 4: a Dodgers town, ironically, but it just wasn't like connective

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Speaker 4: that way in the eighties, like people weren't just you know,

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Speaker 4: clamoring for Dodgers the content in Vegas. As a kid,

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Speaker 4: I've never really had a connection That Freddie Freeman moment

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Speaker 4: I wake up today a champion because I'm now a

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Speaker 4: Dodgers fan.

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Speaker 3: There we go, look at that, look at that look.

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Speaker 3: I honestly, I love the fact you watch a series.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what happened. I had football and Freddy

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Speaker 3: Clutch.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he deserved all the act Like

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Speaker 2: listen on a team is Stars right show, Hey and Mookie.

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Speaker 2: You know he was the man man. I think that

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that you were all in man.

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Speaker 4: Now every look. I also, as we've talked about, you know,

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Speaker 4: for the what a year and change that we've been

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Speaker 4: doing this show, I'm a big ratings guy. You know that.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, ratings mean something. Oh my god. I

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Speaker 4: mean if you everybody keep saying, when is baseball going

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Speaker 4: to capture? Well, baseball captured. I mean you talk about

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Speaker 4: the ratings through the roof for the younger kids, the

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Speaker 4: ratings through the roof overall. You look at it. There's

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Speaker 4: a reason because you know, I hear the noise already

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Speaker 4: as a lifelong that hard one week fan of people

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Speaker 4: talking about, you know, great that you can buy a championship. Well,

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Speaker 4: at some point I will always look at this and say,

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Speaker 4: you know what, whatever the system allows, if you want

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Speaker 4: your fan base a championship that is well within the rules, right,

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Speaker 4: And what do you want from your favorite team? You

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Speaker 4: As a lifelong Raiders fan, I want my team to

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Speaker 4: Dodgers team that went out recklessly, spent, fearlessly spent, wasn't

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Speaker 4: if money is the one delineator, then everybody should be

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Speaker 4: So, I there's not a single thing about this that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, this is what it is. Right.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with you that you can't cry money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't disagree that. I think in general, these

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Speaker 4: things really brilliantly. They have figured out how to all

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Speaker 4: the NFL has created a product this is still jarring

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Speaker 4: to me. Right now. There are ten teams out of

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Speaker 4: And we don't sit here for a second and say, ah,

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Speaker 4: Like that becomes a good thing. So you know, you're right.

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Speaker 4: There's equity that comes in in being able to let

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Speaker 4: it allows your product to stink and still have people

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't think it's you know, like

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Speaker 3: I think the NBA has got major.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think there's some things to tweak.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's for today to talk about the

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Speaker 2: you know, like a cap and you know there are dead,

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Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, if you look, if you

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Speaker 2: at what the Dodgers did.

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Speaker 3: It was a ride, man, it was a great ride.

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Speaker 5: I was I mean, it was Yankees, it was two

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Speaker 2: My god, I had stars who failed. Like part of

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Speaker 4: Well and not ironically but amazingly, one of those stars

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Speaker 4: But like show, hey didn't really show up in this series.

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Speaker 4: We all know that too, right. It's amazing to me

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Speaker 4: I can't wait till we get to that Mookie Freddie

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Speaker 4: Freeman like it wasn't about show Hey. The fact that

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Speaker 2: I mean even in the postseason he had a couple

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Speaker 4: Which is a little reminiscent of you know, there were

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Speaker 4: there was a time we forget where Mahomes didn't have

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Speaker 4: it's like you just sort of have to go through that.

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Speaker 4: It's funny that show Hay gets a ring. Not I mean,

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Speaker 4: they got there in large part because of show Hay's contribution.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not taking anything away from the regular season,

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Speaker 4: but in the postseason he gets the great glorious bonus

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Speaker 4: it's a different experience, your second World Series, presuming you

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Speaker 4: know he hopefully gets back there. For me is a

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Speaker 3: Ask about the sports dieheart fan, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: A week long diehard fan. I love the two sports.

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Speaker 4: Makes me think of something they used to say in

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Speaker 4: And that's real for so many artists, Like you might

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Speaker 4: I do believe that what we're seeing for the NBA,

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Speaker 4: use a band like Diamond Reo for anybody that remembers Dimondria.

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Speaker 4: They were a big country band in the nineties. I

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Speaker 4: They were genuinely happy because it was five o'clock in

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Speaker 4: learn to be content with where you are in the spectrum, man,

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Speaker 4: I think the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like yeah. For years for baseball fans it's

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Speaker 4: you want, man, go to it. Flock to it and

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Speaker 2: How was your Big Halloween Bash?

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Speaker 4: Good Man? Halloween is just it's weird this year though,

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Speaker 4: I still support. You know, this is a very very

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Speaker 4: to like that way.

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Speaker 2: It's like Christmas is awesome, but it like the days

435
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Speaker 2: every weirds little bit different.

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Speaker 4: Oh got it. It was a period of my.

437
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Speaker 3: Life, same way.

438
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Speaker 4: It's cool. Oh no, there was a period in my

439
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: life a long time ago before I was able to

440
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Speaker 4: have any success in music where I had a day job, right,

441
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Speaker 4: and Christmas when you have a nine to five, like

442
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Speaker 4: it's just a normal nine to five, Christmas on a

443
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Speaker 4: Wednesday is like suffocatingly bad because you work usually a

444
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Speaker 4: full day or how like I was lucky enough we

445
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Speaker 4: got a half day on Tuesday. From that example, and

446
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Speaker 4: then you work, you have Christmas on Wednesday, and then

447
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Speaker 4: you got to be back at work on Thursday, like

448
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Speaker 4: you don't like you're back. So like when I first

449
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 4: still my family was like in you know, in the

450
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Speaker 4: Maryland Ary. At that point, I couldn't go home, like,

451
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Speaker 4: so I want everybody to have a chance to go home.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I get that.

453
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Speaker 2: And during his work issues, I mean forever I used

454
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Speaker 2: to cover Chicago, it was the Bulls played every Christmas day.

455
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Speaker 2: I did it, you know forever. Then I did and

456
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Speaker 2: I fallast off. So you know, sports work, you know,

457
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 2: holidays right then retail those poor people who are really

458
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Speaker 2: working hard work holidays. I mean that's what sucks. Like

459
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Speaker 2: I wish everybody could have off no matter what the

460
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Speaker 2: day of the week is.

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Speaker 4: See, and that's why I'm.

462
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Speaker 3: I don't think it matters because.

463
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Speaker 4: I can't see. I can't force because I was. I

464
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 4: was working for a stock brokeers firm. Like it's you know,

465
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Speaker 4: like a little underling on it. Not like I was

466
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Speaker 4: a big successful stockbroker, but I was working for a

467
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Speaker 4: brokerage firm. The markets are open Tuesday, they're open every

468
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Speaker 4: day but Christmas. So like you know, here I am,

469
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Speaker 4: I'm I wasn't. I was barely making enough when I

470
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Speaker 4: first started, barely making enough money to pay my bills,

471
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Speaker 4: and I still had to work the day before and

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Speaker 4: the day after.

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Speaker 2: So well, but most places you don't. I mean, retail

474
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Speaker 2: is the real problem.

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Speaker 4: Really, Like if you work at a like just a

476
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Speaker 4: regular normal widget company, you know, nine to five the

477
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Speaker 4: day before the day after, aren't.

478
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Speaker 2: You No, you're not working day after Christmas and you're

479
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Speaker 2: not working Christmas Eve from now normal companies that had

480
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Speaker 2: nothing to do with that, you know, you bring up

481
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Speaker 2: you know, finance or sports or and number one's retail,

482
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Speaker 2: right or you know, God blessed, you know, first respond

483
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Speaker 2: there's police fire, right like you know, I mean, you're

484
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Speaker 2: always working. There's certain you know, there's certain places that

485
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Speaker 2: you're always working, but most people don't. I mean, we

486
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Speaker 2: work at media, and that's different yeah, yeah, yeah, No,

487
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Speaker 2: I know we're in a different like.

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't mind the fact that like football, football

489
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Speaker 4: now makes Thanksgiving and Christmas for you know, for me,

490
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Speaker 4: it's a work day. I don't mind that at all.

491
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Speaker 4: Like I don't talk about sports for a living. So

492
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to complain about.

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Speaker 3: Working on a hobab exactly.

494
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Speaker 4: That's not I'm a man of the people. I'm worried

495
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Speaker 4: about the little people that, you know, the little people

496
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Speaker 4: like I'm with you, do be.

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Speaker 2: Fair because I want to get into this discussion and

498
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Speaker 2: I I gotta do trending or else.

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Speaker 3: You know, I get I get it, let's hear it. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: We had a Friday Night lights act in a college

501
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Speaker 7: football as a Boise State, showing that they very well

502
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Speaker 7: could be the favorite to make the College Football Playoff

503
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Speaker 7: as the group of five entrant. They had a dominating

504
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Speaker 7: performance on the blue turf Friday Night, fifty six to

505
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Speaker 7: twenty four. The Broncos win it to move to seven

506
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Speaker 7: and one and four and zero in Mountain West play.

507
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Speaker 7: Yukon is now Bowl eligible after beating Georgia State thirty

508
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Speaker 7: four to twenty seven, so the Huskies now six and

509
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Speaker 7: three in South Florida a blot win at Florida Atlantic

510
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Speaker 7: forty four to twenty one. In the NBA Timberwolves and

511
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Speaker 7: Nuggets huge matchup in Minneapolis, Anthony Edwards taking over down

512
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Speaker 7: the stretches. He'd finish with twenty nine points uplift Minnesota

513
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Speaker 7: to a one nineteen one at sixteen victory. Nikolai jokicch

514
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Speaker 7: a rebound shy of a triple double twenty six points,

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Speaker 7: nine rebounds, thirteen assists, but some tough news for Denver

516
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Speaker 7: as Jamal Murray had to leave the game in the

517
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Speaker 7: third quarter and has since been placed into concussion protocol.

518
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Speaker 7: On the score from around the Association, Thunder over the

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Speaker 7: Trailblazers one thirty seven to one, fourteen. Pelicans meet the

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Speaker 7: Pacers one twenty five one eighteen. The Lakers get thirty

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Speaker 7: eight points and eleven rebounds from Anthony Davis, and they

522
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Speaker 7: bounce back from the loss of the Caves. They beat

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Speaker 7: the Raptors on the road one thirty one to one

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Speaker 7: twenty five. Nets of the Bulls one twenty one twelve.

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Speaker 7: Kings beat the Hawks won twenty three one fifteen. Nicks

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Speaker 7: will the blowout win against the Pistons one twenty eight

527
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Speaker 7: ninety eight Cavaliers take down the Magic one twenty one

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Speaker 7: oh nine, and the Celtics will They won twenty four

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Speaker 7: one oh nine victory against the Charlotte Hornets.

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Speaker 3: Beet you guys, all right, buddy, thank you, We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Where the fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano from Lee Tirerack

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Speaker 2: dot Com Studios.

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Speaker 3: So, DBA, we have to get into.

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Speaker 2: This for a couple of moments because I don't want

535
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Speaker 2: to run this by Dick. I freaking hate this leak,

536
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Speaker 2: all right. I love basketball. Okay, you know I could

537
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: sit here and you know we're sports heads, right, so

538
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: we could do I could do chapter and verse on

539
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: all four of the major sports I like. In soccerpe

540
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: for that matter, the NBA. I love basketball. The NBA

541
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Speaker 2: is a wretched, wretched product. And it's just a meaningless

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Speaker 2: eighty two games and I'm in the middle of the

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Speaker 2: de value of the NBA regular season. The seventy six

544
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Speaker 2: ers have started this season without their two best players,

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Speaker 2: Joel Beand and Paul George. Paul George is legitimately hurt.

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Speaker 2: Now are they taking their time bringing him back? Yeah,

547
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Speaker 2: but it's kind of understandable. Jella Dean, who has been

548
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Speaker 2: a you know, he's a tremendous talent who's been all injured.

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Speaker 2: He's a big and I guess it comes. It certainly

550
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: comes with the territory for some bigs, and he's the

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Speaker 2: poster child for it. He played in the Olympics, he

552
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: has in need. It's been been ambiguous as to whether

553
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Speaker 2: or not, like what the actual issue is.

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Speaker 3: With the knee. He plays.

555
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: He's been practicing five on five, but he's yet.

556
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Speaker 3: To play in the game, and.

557
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Speaker 2: People are like, what are you guys doing Like they're

558
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 2: not you know, you're they're not. They haven't been forthright

559
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: to the fan base is to you know what the

560
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: situation is, and you know, there's he looks great. He's

561
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: just this is like management of the knee.

562
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Speaker 3: It's all this craziness.

563
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: So people are because they have fed up, they have

564
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: enough and they're getting ripped. So in Bed, who never speaks,

565
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: calls a press conference yesterday, and at the press conference

566
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Speaker 2: and Beat's talking about how you it does deserve to

567
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: be treated this way, and he hits you with the

568
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: all I've done for this city.

569
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Speaker 3: And this is this is where this.

570
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: Whole league has no perspective, right, This is where the

571
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: athlete is completely on another planet. The fact that he

572
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: would utter the words what I've done for this city,

573
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: it just shows you you got you live in another

574
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: world man, that you have no concept of reality. When

575
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: he listen, if you're building schools and you know you're

576
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: you're an athlete that has been you know, winning championships

577
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: and bring in all kinds of does all kinds of

578
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: charity works and everything else. I'm sure you know when

579
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: you generate five hundred million dollars, there's a charitable part

580
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: of your company right of who you are. But the

581
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: concept of what I've done for this city is the

582
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: most outlandish.

583
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Speaker 3: And I like him being right.

584
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Speaker 2: I was always big and Bee fan, but it's the

585
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: most outlandish thing to say. It's talk about no perspective.

586
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: You mean, what you've done to earn five hundred million

587
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: dollars your job? Like these dudes are completely entitled, and

588
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: God forbid they get the least bit of criticism, they

589
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: just go crazy and nobody could take it. And the

590
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: fact that matter is the product of six is put

591
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: out there. On Wednesday night, in a loss to the Pistons,

592
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: was an absolute disgrace and they completely Any fan that

593
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Speaker 2: was at the game that paid money deserves a freaking refund.

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Speaker 4: The hard part is, because you're right about so much

595
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: of that. As people start to say what I've done

596
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: for this city, it reminds you of the hardest thing

597
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: about critiquing people that have given, and like, at some

598
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: point you have to be able to say when you

599
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 4: give a grace without expectation of acknowledgment, in my opinion,

600
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Speaker 4: just in life. So you know, the fact is, as

601
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Speaker 4: I say this, like every year at Christmas, I the

602
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: last several years I've gone to a shelter or Thanksgiving

603
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Speaker 4: the same thing, gone to a shelter and tried to

604
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Speaker 4: feed people. Right Like, I don't do that because I

605
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: want to put it on social media and have everybody

606
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: be like, oh my god, you're the best. I do

607
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: it because I'm trying to get back to the community.

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Speaker 4: I think that at some point you look at again,

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Speaker 4: I'll go to other industries, whether we're talking about actors

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Speaker 4: or musicians or just rich tech people. Of philanthropy is

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00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: a huge part of that. In large part if you

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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 4: want to be cynical because you get a huge tax

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Speaker 4: write off for doing it so like there's a fine

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Speaker 4: line on all of this and the fact is somebody

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Speaker 4: that's given a lot of money to the community, I

616
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Speaker 4: want to say thank you for that, and then you

617
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: say thank you, period. End of statement. Now let's talk

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Speaker 4: about what you're doing with your job. There are two

619
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Speaker 4: very different conversations, like this is really hard for everybody,

620
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Speaker 4: but yeah, buttonism doesn't work very well for me. And

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Speaker 4: I don't know when I've said this to you before,

622
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Speaker 4: but I'll apply it here. I don't know when we

623
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Speaker 4: decided that it was okay as adults to argue like

624
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Speaker 4: we are children. And I know when I was a kid,

625
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Speaker 4: if my mom came in and said, why'd you do that,

626
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yeah, well they did it, okay, I'd

627
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Speaker 4: still got my ass beat. If my mom came in

628
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: and said why'd you do that and I was like, well,

629
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Speaker 4: you know what you do this, I give my ass beat.

630
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: Like there's a level of why we get to deflect

631
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Speaker 4: it every every turn. I don't understand. That's just a

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Speaker 4: difference in the way my process is things. So like,

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Speaker 4: I think it's fair to turn around and say, Joel Embiid,

634
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: you have given tremendous money time and resources to community.

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00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: Thank you. Stop now now that we finished that statement,

636
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Speaker 4: what about because as I say this, without any bullet

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Speaker 4: leaning one way or the other, you want to talk

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Speaker 4: about people that can absolutely die on the hill of

639
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: look at what I've done for the community. That would

640
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 4: be the answer of basically every single politician. Yet we

641
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: still have to hold them accountable for the work that

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00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: they do, the good and the bad. So it doesn't

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00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: like there it's two separate categories that are being co

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00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: mingled by Joe Ellenbid and I don't agree with that

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Speaker 4: at all.

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Speaker 3: Now, I mean, I gotta tell you too, I'll be

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Speaker 3: honest with you.

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Speaker 2: It was in the front took it asn't been fan.

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Speaker 4: He's a classic deflecting too.

650
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Speaker 3: I'd be worried. Are you?

651
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 2: Are you out of your mind? What you've done for

652
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: the city? Stop like you've accrued five hundred million dollars.

653
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 3: That's part of the equation. I'm sorry, you don't get credit.

654
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: It's fair. You don't get credit.

655
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: You will recruit five hundred million dollars. That's what you've done.

656
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: All right, You've done your job to go away and

657
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: give me you you play, you play both like what

658
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: it's what he meant to say, I think was well,

659
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: why he criticized me. I've played hurt, right like, and

660
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: that's a fair statement to say you've played hurt. You know,

661
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: you're all injured, but you know you give it a shot,

662
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: right whatever. You broke your orbital ball twice, so that's fair.

663
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, But is that being done for the city, of

664
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 4: course not.

665
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: That's where it's That's where it's in the front. I

666
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: mean quite frankly, Hey, we got to take quick to you.

667
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: We'll come back. And this is all big part of

668
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: a pool of the entitlement of the league that is

669
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: completely unlikable. Where the fella is right here Fox Sports

670
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: Radio Fell is from the tairaq dot com studios. You know,

671
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: it's funny that what have you done for me lately?

672
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: Right?

673
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: Like people don't they love the throat of your face,

674
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: right like, oh, you know you treat Look how we're treated.

675
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: It's just a packed man.

676
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: Like you know, the agulation can't come twenty four to seven,

677
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: three sixty five every year, right unless you're you know,

678
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan Lebron James, like you know, you think about

679
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: that league and the league is has a real issue

680
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 2: because you know, it's three wise men, the three great stars, right,

681
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 2: lebron kd and Staph are in the twilight, and there's

682
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: nobody else to really take this place that have that

683
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: kind of mag of that magnitude. Right, there's some great ballplayers.

684
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: There's some girly good young players. Uh, there's some you know,

685
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: Luca and Jokic, and there's some you know, Wemby's promising. Right,

686
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: there's some really good talent. But like those three guys

687
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: had had it all, the league is going through that

688
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 2: transition period that it goes that it went through post Jordan.

689
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: But the issue is the amount of you know, entitlement

690
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: from the players. It's outrageous really when you think about it.

691
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: It's hard for a current player to understand that they're

692
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: in that moment because players are wired to think that

693
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: they are the greatest. Like that's part of what it

694
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: takes to be part of the one percent. I do

695
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: believe that, And so what's hard is it's hard to

696
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: explain to any of these guys. Hey, by the way, Yeah,

697
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 4: I mean it's not like you're Michael, you know, like

698
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 4: there's a sense to me of how do you because

699
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: everything you're saying is true. I agree with all of it.

700
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 4: This is a transition period. The guys in the league

701
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 4: don't see it as such because what they see is

702
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: the global money coming in is absolutely wild, and that

703
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 4: you know, they're part of the league that is talked

704
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: about on ESPN every day, so that it must be

705
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: things must be great. And it's like, I don't know.

706
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 4: I think we all get in our bubble, and once

707
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: you're in your bubble, you have an inflated self. Forth

708
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 4: and again, I'll just I'll go back to the number

709
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: of times I've sat there. I've sat on tour us

710
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 4: Is with acts that are huge in country music that

711
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 4: are complaining about the fact that, like all they're doing

712
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: is selling out twenty three, twenty four thousand. Why is this?

713
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 4: You know, these people over here are selling out stadiums

714
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 4: every night. They're not any better. Like and people lose

715
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: once you're in that, especially you toddled to that point,

716
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 4: you just lose so much perspective on exactly where you are.

717
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: I just and you're right by the way. I mean,

718
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: we're looking at like WEMBN Yama think about that, like

719
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 4: one of the most talented and hyped prospects we've ever

720
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: seen come into the league and the conversation on when

721
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: min Yama is a whisper now compared why, because man,

722
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: to even get to the point of Lebron and Michael,

723
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 4: you got to win so much. That stuff takes time,

724
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: Like you got to win enough for people to love

725
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 4: and hate you all at once. And that's just man,

726
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 4: that just takes a lot more time than I think

727
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 4: people realize. So it is a transition.

728
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 3: Pirity, it really is.

729
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, now, the big picture is

730
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: it's not Embeed an entitlement and players, and that's a thing.

731
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: The real big picture in this whole thing is the

732
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: Sixers are treating Embiid and I get it like a

733
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: you know, like this delicate object, which he is. And

734
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: they're basically gonna devalue the regular season because it's all

735
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: about this tournament, right, It's all about the spring. And

736
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 2: so they're not gonna risk Embeid. They're Knaki's they're gonna

737
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: come back slower from the knees and big and there's

738
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: medical reason for it, an whole thing. And Paul George

739
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: is an older player, so you're gonna do the same

740
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: thing with him, and they're they're gonna kind of coast,

741
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: daring the regular season and hope they can amp it

742
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: up and make a run in this.

743
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: Tournament because because what they're telling us, Anthony, is that

744
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 4: the regular season doesn't matter. That would be their answer

745
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 4: is the regular season doesn't matter. If they know it

746
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: doesn't matter, if we know in front of a microphone,

747
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. Why, Like, what's the message to fans?

748
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: How am I supposed to make any weak night game

749
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: in the NBA a big deal when the fact is

750
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: the NBA doesn't make it a big deal, like let's

751
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 4: just all just sit here until we get to the playoffs.

752
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: It is it's completely wild, Like so you flush your

753
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: flushing a whole season, a whole regular season, all those

754
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: games nobody should truthfully, nobody should go because if it

755
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: don't matter, it's all an exhibition of a night. What

756
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: is the messaging.

757
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: It's a huge problem for that sport. Huge problem. Fellas

758
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: on Fox.

759
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

760
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 3: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning.

761
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Speaker 2: I'm on that happy happy Fox Football Saturday. Fellas, Jason

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait for this game, FITZI.

769
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 2: It is number three Penn State, number four Ohio State.

770
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: That is the jewel of today. It is going to

771
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: be a.

772
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: Sunny November day, probably about you know, high fifties, low sixties,

773
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: perfect autumnal November day for number three, number v four

774
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: on a Fox big noon kickoff.

775
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and couldn't be better timing for this, I mean

776
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 4: not the time of the day of the game. I

777
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 4: know Penn State fans upset that this game isn't at night,

778
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 4: but they couldn't be better timing. We get our first

779
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: College Football Playoff Committee rankings on Tuesday, so this is

780
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: a great opportunity to make a statement to write before

781
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: the committee releases those first rankings. And this is a

782
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 4: big game. I think one of the things that really,

783
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: you know, everybody keeps talking about Drew Aller, who was

784
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: the starting quarterback a Penn State who was injured in

785
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: the first half of their game last week, but I

786
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: would say this, There wasn't a drop off in the

787
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: second half, and that to me just speaks to how

788
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 4: good the offense has become. A Penn State under a

789
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 4: new offensive coordinator that's just driving the ball deeper down

790
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 4: the field. You can see it. Penn State obviously physical

791
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball too, But man,

792
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of faith that comes in. Hey,

793
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 4: even if Drew Aller can't go, we know that we're

794
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: gonna be just fine. We're gonna be okay. This Penn

795
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 4: State offense is different. This is gonna be a real challenge.

796
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: And if you're Ohio State, you're looking at it saying

797
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: the good news is, Man, we faced the best offense

798
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 4: we're gonna face all year in theory when we took

799
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: on Oregon at Oregon and we took that offense like

800
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: so we handle that offense as but well as you can.

801
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 4: So you know, I think Ohio State has a little

802
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: bit of been there, done that when it comes to

803
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 4: facing explosive teams. But man, this feels like it's just

804
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 4: gonna be just a absolute hit him in the mouth.

805
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 4: Players are gonna you're gonna have to break lucky, not

806
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 4: good like. It's just this feels like points are gonna

807
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: be a little bit at a premium to me.

808
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. Uh So we'll see that Aler.

809
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: You know, I I think he's gonna play. I'm not,

810
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: you know again, just from which I've heard from people,

811
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: and uh so I think there's a good chance of it.

812
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: But I will say this, that bo Purple you talked about,

813
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: it came in last week and they did uh and

814
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: they didn't miss a beaten. Part of it was it

815
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: was interesting, it was great coaching. The uh they completely

816
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: scrapped so so Aler has a big arm and uh

817
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: and bo Is is more of a your runner, more

818
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: of a read option you know type of thing. So

819
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: they they completely scrapped their offense and morphed it into

820
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: more of a read option offense. So I give the

821
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: coaches a ton of credit. So this is interesting and that.

822
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: Was a great by the way, to that point, bo

823
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 4: using his legs was such a dynamic that obviously Wisconsin

824
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 4: couldn't have been ready for. There was nothing they could

825
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: do about that, right, There was not much plan for

826
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 4: that moment. It was definitely a bit of a gut punch.

827
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: I think it'll be interesting to see how Ohio State

828
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 4: this week is prepared because they are, you know, different

829
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: enough stylistically. And I'll remind everybody that the offensive coordinator

830
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: came from Kansas, where mobility at the quarterback position was

831
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: a key. That's something they really wanted Kansas, so wanted

832
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: at Kansas. So you know, you look at these moments

833
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 4: and you're like, hey, from a coordinator standpoint, and both

834
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 4: he's got both tricks in his bag, and that's there's

835
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: power to that at Ohio State. You know, we talk

836
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 4: about injuries. Ohio State's offensive line is banged up, so

837
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 4: it just, man, it just feels like both of these

838
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: defenses are going to have a chance to get after it.

839
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you nailed it right there. I think

840
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: the whole key to the game comes down to one thing.

841
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: Can Penn State exploit Ohio State's offensive line, because if

842
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: it can't get to Howard then then they're not gonna win.

843
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: Then Ohio State will survive. It's all about the pressure

844
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: they have. They got Carter to get a kick. This

845
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: kick Carter can get to the quarterback they got, they

846
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 2: got some players, they got a decent front, and can

847
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: they collapse Ohio State The Ohio State's offense.

848
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 3: That to me is the whole game.

849
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 2: It to me, it's Ohio State, Ohio State's offense versus

850
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 2: the Penn State front And can they you know, can

851
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 2: they exploit that.

852
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: Tackle spot that's their line.

853
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: They have a couple of week spots at tackle and

854
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: at and some and along the interior you.

855
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: Can collapse them. That's gonna be to me, that where

856
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: the game's won.

857
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's I know, we just mentioned Penn State's

858
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 4: quarterback got some some rushing yards last week, but neither

859
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 4: team ran the ball with their running backs very effectively

860
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 4: last week. So, uh, can you be made one dimensional?

861
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: Because you don't want to be made when your offensive

862
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 4: line is having an issue and you have an issue

863
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: at left tackle and by the way, you're taking on

864
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: a defensive front that has Abdul Carter on it. It's

865
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: absolutely He's absolutely beast this season. I do think there

866
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 4: is a concern of are we made one dimensional? If

867
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: we can't run the football either side I'm talking about

868
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 4: if you can't run the football with some level of effectiveness,

869
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 4: then you're gonna have an issue in this because they

870
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 4: are going to tee off on those quarterbacks and man,

871
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 4: I think both teams looking back at the tape last week,

872
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: would say, Man, we should have been more physical at

873
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. We should have run the football

874
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: better with our backs, and that's you know, that's going

875
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: to be part of this. That's why I wouldn't be

876
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: surprised at all to see both teams just trying to

877
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 4: hammer through the run game, even if it's not successful. Early.

878
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's good. I am upset that it's not

879
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: at night, to be.

880
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: Honest with Yeah, should have been a night game. Should

881
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: have been a wide up.

882
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: I love I love the Big New kickoff, but you know,

883
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: the prime time game is always special, and I get it.

884
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: I think tonight would have been games set in a

885
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: or old series. So you know, you're not you're not

886
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: putting you you're not going to put that game on

887
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: at night. You can't and you want to make sure

888
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 2: you protect that game. That's a that's a huge game.

889
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: I couldn't too because they're both Fox, so like it right,

890
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 4: be right, like there was.

891
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: No choice because of the World Series that it has

892
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: to be.

893
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: They're they're calling for a white out, so an afternoon

894
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: white out next week? Is there white out that's when

895
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: the whole state it's cool.

896
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: Happy values are great. Have you been there?

897
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? I went with Game Day to a white out

898
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 4: game a couple of years ago and it was it

899
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: was surreal, like.

900
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 3: You know, and pretty cool, right.

901
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you think back to the wild environments like

902
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 4: that was definitely white out game at night. Man. You

903
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: you could you can feel the rumble in your teeth,

904
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 4: which is like the best stadiums. Yeah, standing on the sideline,

905
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 4: you could just you can feel the crowd through your

906
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: bones and that that definitely hit like that was how

907
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 4: is a wild different environment?

908
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, you're yeah, it's it really is.

909
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: It's it's something man, And today that's to me the

910
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: jewel of the whole day. You got Oregon in Michigan, Man,

911
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: an't amazing freaking Oregon is a fourteen and a half

912
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: point favorite at the Big House. I mean, you know,

913
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 2: you're just a year a well off of the National

914
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: Championship and now Oregon's a fourteen and a half point

915
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: favorite or a Michigan.

916
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, just thinking about the fact that Michigan has fallen

917
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 4: so far that now it's like, well, just want to

918
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: make sure we don't fall asleep on this Michigan game,

919
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: but they just they're so I always talked about one dimensional.

920
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 4: I don't know how you get into modern college football

921
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: at the highest level and you don't have a guy

922
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: that can complete a pass. It just doesn't have any

923
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 4: shot at a passing game at this point. And you

924
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 4: know that's we're not talking about the service academies ten

925
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: years ago. Like you can't win at the Big ten

926
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 4: if you can't spread them out do something, and they

927
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: just they can't. And you know how about not.

928
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: Get a quarterback. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable to me that

929
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: they can't get a quarterback.

930
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's the most inexcusable thing that can happen

931
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 4: to it. That's what when this happens, when you have

932
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 4: no quarterback and it's not because of injury, you just

933
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 4: don't have a guy that can throw the football. I

934
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 4: think you got to look at your recruiting staff and say,

935
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: what did we do here? Because this makes no sense.

936
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 4: Like in today's world, quarterbacks can be bought. Let's just

937
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: be very clear about that.

938
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: You want to the era of the portal, that's the

939
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: whole point, Like it's the era of the portal.

940
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: What do you think, like.

941
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: Huh, Like, here's the thing, Like, let me throw this

942
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: at you. So, Kyle McCord, now I think he was

943
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: a scapegoat by Ryan Day, all right. I know I

944
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: know the family, and I think Ryan Date escapegoat to

945
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: that kid. Whatever you want to call it, it is

946
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: what it is. It is right, So goes to Syracuse.

947
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna tell me that if you're Michigan, you don't

948
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: make and you know what, you got a quarterback, you

949
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: don't make a run.

950
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 4: From a Cord doesn't make any sense to me.

951
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: I mean, he's the perfect guy, chip on your shoulder.

952
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: You come in and he's good, he's competent, right like

953
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 2: you know he he may not be you know, uh

954
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: Carson back. But if kid's good, kid can play like

955
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: he's you could see, and if you can, you protect

956
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: him with that.

957
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: Line like like what what's like? Why would you do that?

958
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: I just, for the life of me don't understand why

959
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 2: they come into this season without a quarterback.

960
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that is you look around the landscape. I

961
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: mean look no further than Oregon. Oregon knew they had

962
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 4: to make an aggressive offer for Dylan Gabriel. They did.

963
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel is their quarterback. By the way, Dylan Gabriel

964
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 4: left Oklahoma, Oklahoma was comfortable letting him walk out of

965
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 4: the room because they thought they had guys there that

966
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: could just handle the position. Those guys have not handled

967
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 4: the position. You can't tell me we don't look at

968
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 4: prep venables differently, the head coach of Oklahoma right now,

969
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: because you had a guy in your building that now

970
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 4: has a shot at the Heisman, playing for the number

971
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 4: one team in the country, and you don't have a quarterback,

972
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 4: you can trust them, So like this is the just

973
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 4: like not having a quarterback will get you fired in

974
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 4: the NFL, modern college football, this gets you fired. Like

975
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 4: just look at the number of transfer quarterbacks that are

976
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 4: out there and then ask yourself, why do we not

977
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: have one? Why is Dylan Gabriel somewhere Wise Camboard somewhere,

978
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 4: you know, go up in that Wise Will Howard somewhere,

979
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: Like they're all all of these quarterbacks can be bought,

980
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 4: and so it's really a question.

981
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: You can't you.

982
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: Can't bemoane the state of Kyle. Oh, we don't want

983
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: to do that. We don't want to get involved with

984
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: the portal. We don't want to do that. Oh yeah,

985
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: well if you don't do that, you're done. So this

986
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: is it, like you got to embrace it or else

987
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: you're not going to compete at that level.

988
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 4: And like I always say, if it's as simple as

989
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 4: raising the money at the most important position in sports,

990
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 4: raise the damn money. Like, I mean, I can't say.

991
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: That loud enough.

992
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 4: If all you need is cash to get a quarterback,

993
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 4: and you don't have a salary cap in your system,

994
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 4: how you go get you a quarterback? Like and so

995
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: from Michigan, they're they're so frustratingly inept on offense. I mean, Oregon,

996
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised for Oregon be to by thirty.

997
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 4: And then that's I know, that's that's wild at the

998
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: Big House a year after winning a Natty.

999
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: I know, it's it really is crazy, it really is.

1000
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: This is uh, you know, it's it's weird because this

1001
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: is that week that you have, you know, like you're

1002
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: where you look at and you go, all right, well

1003
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: there's some good stuff, but again, you know you're kind

1004
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: of waiting for the prime time nine stud games, you know.

1005
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think this is where college football

1006
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 4: can bank on one big game and basically say, hey,

1007
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 4: this is the game. Everybody's gonna pay attention to it.

1008
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 4: This is the one we all want to see. It's

1009
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 4: according to I don't know how the stat Winnie's come

1010
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 4: up with this, but according to the stat wenis that

1011
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: are amazing. In stats in info group at ESPN, I

1012
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: heard that this was this was predicted to be the

1013
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 4: best remaining game of the calendar year for Ohio State

1014
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 4: Penn State for the rest of the season.

1015
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 3: This is get that.

1016
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know how to figure that stuff out,

1017
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 4: but that I speaks brother. Like, imagine remember when Florida

1018
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 4: Georgia mattered, Like because I just want to remind everybody

1019
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 4: that cocktail party is today and nobody cares.

1020
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's I mean, look, you get

1021
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: Florida back. I mean, that's just what it is. I mean,

1022
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: next week, here's a couple of previews. Right, So next

1023
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: week you got Georgian Ole miss that's a good game.

1024
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: And then you got Alibi MLSU, which is a great game.

1025
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: I mean, that's gonna be a great football game.

1026
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going to be stunning. That's a huge implication.

1027
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: That's winner loser leaves town matches. What that is like,

1028
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 4: that's the old ladies wrestling loser leaves town match for

1029
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: that one, because they're going to be leaving the end

1030
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 4: of the college football playoff match from that.

1031
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 2: And then you got the November sixteenth is Tennessee Georgia, right,

1032
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 2: Like that's going to be outrageous Tennessee Georgia. And then

1033
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: and then you know, I'll tell you what the game

1034
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: that's gonna be awesome and it's at Yankee Stadium in

1035
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks November twenty whatever it is, fourth

1036
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 2: is or November twenty third is Army Notre Dame and

1037
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: that'll be a prime time game.

1038
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the other statement win opportunity. Where Notre Dame

1039
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 4: is placed by the College Football Playoff Committee is going

1040
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 4: to be one of the more interest things that we'll

1041
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 4: see from their first rankings. It's going to be a

1042
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: pretty historic rankings. It's more complicated than people may realize

1043
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 4: that haven't been paying attention to it. Remember, the committee

1044
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 4: is not going to sit here and just tell you

1045
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 4: they're going to give you two things. They're going to

1046
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: give you rankings, and then seating will come from those rankings.

1047
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 4: And I just have to keep stressing that that if

1048
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 4: you're watching on Tuesday, not that there's anything else going

1049
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 4: on here'll just be watching the first college Football Playoff

1050
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 4: Committee Tuesday. If you're watching Tuesday and they give you

1051
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 4: one through twelve, understand that that is not at all

1052
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: what the actual seating would be for the playoffs. There's

1053
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 4: a real scenario where, for example, right now, Oregon's the

1054
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: number one team in the country. You know, Penn State's three,

1055
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 4: Ohio States four. If it were to be a college

1056
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: football playoff ranking, they might have the same thing. But

1057
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 4: by the time you do the seating, that means that,

1058
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 4: you know, the fourth ranked team in the playoffs might

1059
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 4: end up with the seven seeds. So just understand that,

1060
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 4: because the top four seeds go to the top four

1061
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 4: power for the top four conference champions, and then there's

1062
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: a guaranteed a group of five team involved in this,

1063
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 4: the playoff seating will look far different than the rankings

1064
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: that you see from the committee.

1065
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: Wow, that's gonna be interesting. Yeah, that's gonna be a

1066
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: lot of fun. I mean, thank god, right, I mean, otherwise,

1067
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: if this was normal, the normal year, you're just looking at, well,

1068
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: here it is, you know, October Zone, the minute October ends.

1069
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 2: I feel I get depressed because there's one there's only

1070
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: one more month really left in the season, right, and

1071
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: and then now with the playoff, it adds so much.

1072
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: There's a whole other layer because it's not just nonsense

1073
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: Bowl games and you know, and then three games, right

1074
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: like the two playoff games in the championship games. It

1075
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 2: now feels like there's something. I say it every year,

1076
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: but man, it's November, and I get depressed. It moves

1077
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: too quick. October, the greatest month the season, is just

1078
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: so fast.

1079
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 3: Man.

1080
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 4: Just imagine for everybody that again hasn't paid attention before Christmas.

1081
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 4: This year, the weekend of the twentieth Friday, December twentieth

1082
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 4: will be first round playoff games Friday and Saturday. The Friday,

1083
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 4: December twentieth Saturday, December twenty first will be the first

1084
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: round of the playoffs. For the first time ever, we're

1085
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 4: going to see a playoff game that could involve in

1086
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 4: a weird let's just you know, imaginary say saying here,

1087
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 4: you could be looking at Alabama having to go up

1088
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 4: to Penn State and play a first round playoff game

1089
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 4: of the weekend before Christmas and then New Year's Eve

1090
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: instead of giving us, you know, bowl games that may

1091
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 4: or may not matter. I still hate that they're on

1092
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: New Year's Eve. But on New Year's Eve there will

1093
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 4: be a playoff quarter final. On New Year's Day there

1094
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: will be three quarter final games like this is. This

1095
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 4: is great, Like we're gonna have college football all the

1096
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 4: way the national championship this year is and until December

1097
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 4: isn't until January twentieth, like this is I love it.

1098
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 4: Such a different such a different mind around it, especially

1099
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 4: in the month of December, where we're not, to your point,

1100
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 4: just gonna be twiddling our thumbs. We'll still twiddle our

1101
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 4: thumbs with bowl games because they're still gonna matter to

1102
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 4: the fans that go to them and to the teams

1103
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 4: to get to go to them. They're still gonna find

1104
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 4: joy in playing in whatever the Music City Bowl. But like,

1105
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 4: let's be real, those couple of weeks leading up, man,

1106
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: it's going to be epic playoff football for college football

1107
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 4: for the first time ever. Like the Fellas on Saturday,

1108
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 4: December twenty first, are going to be previewing three college

1109
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: football playoff games. Like god, that just feels epic.

1110
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah it does. I love you as you say it

1111
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: gets popped up.

1112
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: Fellas will take quick t come right back right here.

1113
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: I gotta get back to that. We have to put

1114
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: a bow on that NBA conversation where the fellas hanging

1115
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: right here?

1116
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

1117
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1118
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1121
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: Welcome back Fellas, Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano, Hey, don't forget

1122
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: football fans, be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: covered three hours before college kickoffs. Every Saturday morning, listen

1127
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1129
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Speaker 2: Shortly after our show's over, the podcast goes up, so

1130
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Speaker 2: be sure to check it out. You miss any portion

1131
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1132
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Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

1133
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: You'll see this show pop up right after we get

1134
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: off the air, all right, I just want to put

1135
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: a bow because I'm a d D like that if

1136
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: I see something that's hanging out there, I have to

1137
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: close it. Even though do we have a whole completely

1138
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: different audience, I'm sure if we started to show we're.

1139
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: Talking about baseball.

1140
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: And I love the fact that that fitzi uh is

1141
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: that it really enjoyed this baseball postseason and he cleaved

1142
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: to the Dodgers and it was h it was just fun,

1143
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: right and and listen as a baseball fan, I thought

1144
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: it was a great postseason and there was some great moments,

1145
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: and I love the fact that you were in on it.

1146
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: So we get on this whole discussion about baseball knowing

1147
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: where it's at right now, understanding and feeling good about

1148
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: its positioning in the sports landscape. And the NBA is

1149
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: another animal, and it's the value of the regular season

1150
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: has really just it's killing it.

1151
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 3: It's killing it in a big way.

1152
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 4: So how do we bring the value? And you like,

1153
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 4: as someone that lives in an NBA city, and this

1154
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 4: is always my great question, how do we bring value

1155
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 4: to an NBA product that doesn't have value until June?

1156
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 4: And then you know, realistically the NBA product. I think

1157
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: the other part of it has become so divisive for

1158
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 4: so many people. Like you've got players and former players

1159
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 4: that will stand up and say every conversation about the

1160
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 4: NBA is ill informed and it's not nuanced enough to

1161
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 4: the way the sport is played without acknowledging that. When

1162
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 4: you watch NFL coverage, if we're being fair, ninety percent

1163
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 4: of it is not sitting down like it's rare. I

1164
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 4: know Ryan Clark and Dan Orlovski is sort of the

1165
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 4: exception on NFL lot, but you most of the coverage

1166
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 4: we see on the NFL is you know, basic, top

1167
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 4: top level, very shallow, like good bar conversation. We rarely

1168
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 4: see somebody say, well, the problem is he took a

1169
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 4: false step here and this guy wasn't in this gap,

1170
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: and like we we rarely see x's in those conversations.

1171
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 4: But I feel like part of the hard part for

1172
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 4: the NBA is that the players and former players come

1173
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 4: out loudly and say that everybody talking about the game

1174
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 4: doesn't really know and they're all stupid. So then it

1175
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: forces less conversation about it because it feels like you've

1176
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 4: got to be suddenly some level of expert but b

1177
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 4: if you put that level of expertise out there, guess what,

1178
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 4: Like like people don't consume it, like if you sat there,

1179
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 4: if you want to do Like I love watching some

1180
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 4: of that high pick and roll conversation that we've seen

1181
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 4: with JJ Reddick and Lebron. I think it's really smart,

1182
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 4: it's fun, but compared to what most media outlets are

1183
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 4: putting out every day, Like, that's not what most people

1184
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 4: are flocking to on a Tuesday afternoon, you know what

1185
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 4: I mean?

1186
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: So, like, unless you're a geek like I like stuff

1187
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: like that, I'll be honest with you.

1188
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 4: I love but you you love NFL like you, and

1189
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 4: I pull.

1190
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Speaker 2: Like I watched film, I watch, Yeah, I got the

1191
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: NFL films and watch film and then I enjoy that stuff.

1192
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 4: I enjoy rewatching, like I watch the All twenty twos

1193
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 4: and I enjoy enjoy rewatching college football games like I'm

1194
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 4: trying to find the nuance. I love that, but most

1195
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 4: fans aren't sitting there, so like the hard part is

1196
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 4: to do that right and so like, you don't want

1197
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 4: me to have an unair quotes, uninformed conversation. Don't want

1198
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: me just to talk about the soap opera, but what

1199
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Speaker 4: you market is the soap operas, because the soap opera

1200
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 4: of the offseason is more interesting than the actual regular

1201
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 4: season and none of it has any meeting until we

1202
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 4: get to the playoffs, and by the time.

1203
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: We get all the out we're.

1204
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 4: Lost on all of it. So like, I just don't

1205
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 4: know what the sport even wants out of the way

1206
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 4: it's supposed to be covered that will help it grow,

1207
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 4: Because amazingly, I cannot say this loud enough, if the

1208
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars were undefeated right now, they would be the

1209
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 4: talk of the town and they would be on every

1210
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 4: single outlet everywhere, because that's what the NFL has figured

1211
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 4: out how to do. In college football, We've heard more

1212
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 4: can talk about Boise State this year than we have

1213
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 4: in the last ten years combined, because they have a

1214
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 4: shot at the college football playoff. Like this is what

1215
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 4: happens in the NBA, the NHL, Major League Baseball. None

1216
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 4: of those sports are built in a way to make

1217
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 4: meaningful conversations of unexpected teams being great because the regular

1218
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 4: season doesn't matter exactly.

1219
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 3: Do be fair, sit right there, because it's a great point.

1220
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 3: Let's get some trending and it.

1221
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 7: Will just NBA action on Friday. It was a great

1222
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 7: matchup we had up in Minneapolis, Timberwolves and Nuggets, and

1223
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 7: down the stretch it was Anthony Edwards taken over this one.

1224
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: Top of the key to call me back over to

1225
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,479
Speaker 2: Edwards thirty seconds to go. Edwards hasn't working against Porter

1226
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: Coase to the left hand.

1227
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 3: He's of the page.

1228
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 4: Bob Guys, Time out.

1229
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 7: Denver call from the Minnesota Timberwolves radio networkdout was part

1230
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 7: of twenty nine points from Anthony Edwards as he gets

1231
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 7: Minnesota to way one nineteen one at sixteen victory. Nikola

1232
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 7: Jokic a rebound shy of a triple double twenty six points,

1233
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 7: nine rebounds, thirteen assists, but some not great news for

1234
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 7: the Denver Nuggets, as Jamal Murray had to leave the

1235
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 7: game in the third quarter and has since been placed

1236
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 7: into a concussion of protocol. Thunderbeat The Trailblazers won thirty

1237
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 7: seven one fourteen thirty points by shake Gilles Alexander Pelicans

1238
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 7: over the Pacers won twenty five one eighteen, and the

1239
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 7: Lakers bounced back to beat the Raptors one thirty one

1240
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 7: to won twenty five Anthony Davis with thirty eight points

1241
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 7: and eleven rebounds. Kings beat the Hawks won twenty three

1242
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 7: one eighteen. Nets over the Bowls won twenty one twelve.

1243
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 7: Nicks bought the Pistons on the road one twenty eight,

1244
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 7: ninety eight, Cavaliers beat the Magic won twenty one oh nine,

1245
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 7: and Celtics over the Hornets won twenty four to.

1246
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 3: Two one oh nine.

1247
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 7: In at college football, we had three games on Friday Night.

1248
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 7: Number fifteen boys he State, the one ranked team in action,

1249
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 7: and they showed that they very well could be a

1250
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 7: playoff contender for that group of five. Spy was a

1251
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 7: blowout win against the San Diego State Astacks fifty six

1252
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,959
Speaker 7: to twenty four. So the Broncos now seven and one

1253
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 7: on the season. Yukon, don't look now, but the Huskies

1254
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 7: bowl eligible. They beat Georgia State on their home field,

1255
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 7: thirty four to twenty seven. South Florida we win at

1256
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 7: Florida Atlantic forty four to twenty one.

1257
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 6: Back over the Bellas.

1258
01:04:54,800 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: Fellas hagging Jason Fitz Anthony Gargane. Let's put a the

1259
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: boat of this conversation, because we're talking about this regular

1260
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: season thing, and you know we're so excited. The reason

1261
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 2: why football is king is because the regular season matters. Man,

1262
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: you can't invest in a two month tournament.

1263
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: It just can't do it.

1264
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: It's antithetical to how we consume sports, right like we

1265
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: consume sports where.

1266
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 3: It's a journey. And I talk about the sixers.

1267
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: If your players are gonna play, you know, thirty forty,

1268
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: you know, maybe fifty games your best players, what journey

1269
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: is that? First of all, I don't know how you

1270
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: get any kind of continuity, but forget that. The fan

1271
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: journey of this season, there is none because every other game,

1272
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: or every third game is like players that are just

1273
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: dumple long in the league, playing big roles like it

1274
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: makes no sense in fancy.

1275
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 4: So I was. I was on the treadmill yesterday doing

1276
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 4: my sprints, and as I was doing my sprints on

1277
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 4: the treadmill, I looked up and one of the TV

1278
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 4: shows was talking about the NBA. And I literally laughed

1279
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 4: at myself. And I'll point out my hypocrisy because as

1280
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 4: I was running, I thought to myself, why the hell

1281
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 4: are they talking about an NBA game right now? Like,

1282
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 4: who cares? It's just a regular season game. And I

1283
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 4: laughed at myself when I finished my Sprints game, and

1284
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 4: I was like, I would never say that about a

1285
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 4: regular season college football game, a regular season NFL game.

1286
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 4: Like if I looked up on the TV and they

1287
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 4: were talking about Jags Titans, I keep using, you know,

1288
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Speaker 4: terrible teams, but there's a reason for that. If they

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,959
Speaker 4: were talking about you know, the Browns Raiders right there,

1290
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 4: two terrible teams this year. I turned around and be like, oh, yeah,

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01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 4: that makes sense. But they were talking about like a

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 4: meaningful game from the night before. I just don't think

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01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 4: anything has meaning right now. And again, full transparracy before

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01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 4: anybody thinks that I'm just suddenly anti MBA. I worked

1295
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 4: for the flagship station for the Nashville Predators when I

1296
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 4: was in Nashville my first year doing radio, and I

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01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 4: said the same thing about talking about hockey in the

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01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 4: middle of October, when they'd be like, well, we need

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01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 4: to spend more time talking about you know, last night's

1300
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 4: spreads matchup, and I'm like, do you think in October

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01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 4: November anybody listening really cares about the third line defensive

1302
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 4: pairings for a team that none of this will matter

1303
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 4: in three months versus talking about the Titans. I died

1304
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 4: on that hill when I worked for an NHL station,

1305
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 4: Like I just like, part of this is just what

1306
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 4: do people care about? And people just right now, the

1307
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 4: NBA is no different than Law and Order. In my house,

1308
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 4: it goes on in the background when I'm doing dishes,

1309
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 4: and I don't want to think like it is law

1310
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 4: and order. It's bar rescue. It's bar rescue. You know,

1311
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 4: bust open the books, like give me John Taffery yelling.

1312
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 4: That is essentially what the NBA is at night. And

1313
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 4: there's nothing that they can do about that because they've

1314
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 4: already built the system so much towards pay attention to

1315
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 4: us in May, June, July or thank you very much.

1316
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 4: I've watched it original on order too, miss Me with

1317
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 4: SVU or Criminal Intent, those are both just bad knockoffs

1318
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 4: of the original. But you can't sell everybody the entire time.

1319
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 4: And the other deep part of this conversation is the

1320
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 4: way we cover the sport. Players will tell us that

1321
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 4: the only thing that matters is a championship. And if

1322
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 4: you spend every single year telling me that chips are

1323
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 4: the only thing that matter, and no matter what you

1324
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 4: do in the regular season doesn't matter. If you win

1325
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 4: the most games in history. If you don't win a chip,

1326
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 4: nobody will remember you. If that's the case, why am

1327
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 4: I watching the regular season? If none of this matters

1328
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 4: until we get to the playoffs, Because none of it

1329
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 4: matters without a championship, And the only way players are

1330
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 4: now judged is by how many rings they have. Then,

1331
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 4: my god, who cares how many triple doubles do you

1332
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 4: have in the regular season? And if nobody cares how

1333
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 4: many triple doubles you have in the regular season, why

1334
01:08:58,600 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 4: am I watching?

1335
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 2: And I played Popovich? I mean Popovich is the root

1336
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 2: cause of the whole thing. Yes, it was because he

1337
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: was the first one who said, well, I'm just gonna

1338
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 2: do load management and rest my guys.

1339
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 4: That's fair.

1340
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 2: And that signified and signaled that the regular season didn't matter.

1341
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: And it was never like that, and there was great

1342
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 2: enjoyment in the regular season, like the quest to win

1343
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: fifty eight games or sixty games like the Bulls was

1344
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: very real. Like we go back and look at box scores,

1345
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 2: I've done it. Michael Jordan playing thirty eight minutes in

1346
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: a game in you know, April second, right, Like playing

1347
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: forty four minutes in a game in March, like, go

1348
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: back and look at the minutes play. Look at Alan

1349
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: Iverson playing forty seven minutes in a game in February,

1350
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: right like that that was a nightly thing. And a

1351
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 2: minute you take that away, and a minute you you

1352
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 2: have your stars and you're talking about load management and

1353
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: guys aren't playing.

1354
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 3: That's it. It's done.

1355
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: And you could give me all the non sense like

1356
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: this stupid playing tournament or this uh mid season tournament

1357
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 2: is it's just it's meaning, let's stop, it's ridiculous, Like

1358
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: you you've already devalued.

1359
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 3: Bring back the value of the regular season.

1360
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: You know, all of a sudden, if you lop a

1361
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: couple of playoff teams off, well not all of a sudden,

1362
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: the regular season may matter. But instead you made it

1363
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 2: worse by doing a playing tournament. I cannot can you imagine.

1364
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 4: If we just decided, all of a sudden, you know what,

1365
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 4: there are going to be four games during the NFL

1366
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 4: season that we're gonna give a trophy out for, Like

1367
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 4: everybody would roll their eyes. You don't have to do that.

1368
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 4: If your sport's clicking on all cylinders, you don't have

1369
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 4: to find some way to make everybody believe in your

1370
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 4: you know, your your weird sort of tournament that doesn't matter, Like,

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01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 4: I mean, who remembers anything about the mid season tournament anyway,

1372
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 4: you're in your that's all sort of a joke.

1373
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: First, it's dumb, right, and you know what it is.

1374
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: It's like, well, let's do soccer, right. Well, here's the

1375
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 2: thing about major soccer. It's completely different because it's out

1376
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: of the league. Like if you get a mid season

1377
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 2: tournament with European teams all right, you know, like the

1378
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: NBA teams played the European All Stars. Well now I'm

1379
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 2: kind of interested, right, like you know, kind of I

1380
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: don't know how you do it with the season, but whatever.

1381
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 4: That's different. That's like a crossover episode of Family Guy

1382
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 4: and the Simpsons coming together. I want to watch.

1383
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: That's what the soccer tournaments are. The mid season soccer

1384
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 2: tournaments are that, like they're not Those tournaments matter because

1385
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: they're interesting.

1386
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 3: So you could play, you know, you could.

1387
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: Watch I don't know, man, you play uh Saint Germain,

1388
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: You're right, Paris or you know whatever, Like you could

1389
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: see that, right, Like you can watch Barcelona like it's

1390
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 2: an interm.

1391
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 3: It's the comingling of the leagues are interesting.

1392
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm all in for something that's different, you know,

1393
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 4: and like.

1394
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 3: You're in the same teams, I mean even if you.

1395
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the problem is all of it feels

1396
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,879
Speaker 4: like Wringling Brothers. It all feels like some P. T. Barnum,

1397
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 4: like pay no attention over here, We're going to distract

1398
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 4: you with this over here. And none of that works

1399
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 4: long term, Like you, at some point you have to

1400
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 4: actually have a valuable product every single night with games

1401
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 4: that mean something. And that's that's the problem.

1402
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 2: And you know what it is. All it is is

1403
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: to sell out two and I don't listen. That's what

1404
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 2: the league's for, right your ear. But the streamers and

1405
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: everybody fell in love with sports because it was the

1406
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: was people would watch because the commercials mattered.

1407
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 3: The problem is is that who's watching them?

1408
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 2: If the regular season nobody cares about, then what Then

1409
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: you're an idiot for paying all that money. You're something

1410
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: exec all right, You're a fool for paying all that

1411
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: money for the rights to a product that nobody cares about.

1412
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we found so many ways to monetize everything

1413
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 4: at this point that you got to ask yourself, what's

1414
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 4: sustainable like you can make money for a minute. It's

1415
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 4: like the age old argument I've said, when it comes

1416
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 4: to what we should want for a favorite team, do

1417
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 4: you want your favorite team to be good? Or do

1418
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 4: you want your favorite team to make the playoffs? Because

1419
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 4: you can make the playoffs any one year things got lucky,

1420
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 4: You're like, oh my god, we made the playoffs. I

1421
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 4: can't believe it. Good is a sustainable thing. That's far different.

1422
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 4: And unfortunately, I think you know there's this product, like

1423
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 4: do you want your product to be monetizable or do

1424
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 4: you want your product to be good? And if there's

1425
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 4: anything that I did learn in my time that that

1426
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 4: was for me working for the Four Letters, like we

1427
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 4: did a lot of digital shows that had a lot

1428
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 4: of viewers that made a lot of money. I'm not

1429
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 4: sure anybody really cared how many of those shows were good.

1430
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 4: They just cared about the fact that they were sold

1431
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 4: and they made money. And like, for a while, you

1432
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 4: can do that, you can make money, and it's like, hey,

1433
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 4: this is perfect, it's working. But at some point you

1434
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 4: say you have to trust that in order for people

1435
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 4: to come back time and time again, the product has

1436
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 4: to be good. People have to give a damn about it.

1437
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 4: You have to invest in the product. You have to

1438
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 4: make sure that you're paying attention to every last detail,

1439
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 4: and if you're not, your products are going to collapse.

1440
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 4: And that's sort of what's happening right now. Rich does

1441
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 4: not mean good. The NBA is rich, It doesn't mean

1442
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 4: that it's good.

1443
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 2: Spot on, man, all right, we have to a quick

1444
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 2: t o. We'll come right back. Fellas Fox Sports Radio

1445
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: Fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano hanging out from the tiraq

1446
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. So I didn even realize, thanks to

1447
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 2: Breathe and Mighty Mark, I didn't realize that this is

1448
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: the weekend to turn back the clocks.

1449
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,879
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, we fall back tonight.

1450
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. Did you know? We didn't know either.

1451
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

1452
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 4: I didn't know.

1453
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

1454
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 4: Short than an hour of sleep tonight. Yeah, I know.

1455
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 3: We get gaining How.

1456
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 4: We gain it?

1457
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: Oh?

1458
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, now, let's go.

1459
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gained the hour? Do you care? Do you

1460
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 3: like the uh?

1461
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 2: Because you're on the East Coast like me, and you know,

1462
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: wake it up in the morning. I hate waking up

1463
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: the darkness. I don't lie darkness at four thirty as

1464
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 2: much as I prefer it, for you've always prefer light,

1465
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: but I would I would rather have the light in

1466
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 2: the morning.

1467
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 4: I uh so, I don't really like I hate how

1468
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 4: early it gets. I mean, in Connecticut, once we hit

1469
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 4: deep dark winter about three thirty in the afternoon, it

1470
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 4: is literally, you know, starting to get dark outside. So

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01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 4: I don't love that. But I will say this, for

1472
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 4: everybody that screams, we have to get rid of this,

1473
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 4: google it. You'll find it. In the seventies, I think

1474
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 4: it was, they did get rid of it. They tried it.

1475
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 4: Congress went in and said, we're not going to do

1476
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,520
Speaker 4: this anymore. And it created such an awful cluster essentially

1477
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 4: where the kids were at the bus stop in complete

1478
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 4: and total darkness. It did not work, And it was

1479
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 4: it was our general population that came in six months

1480
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 4: after and said, oh my god, please please make it stop.

1481
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 4: Don't do this. We don't want this anymore. Really, I

1482
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 4: know that. Yeah, year was that. You know, I'll google it.

1483
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 4: You stall, well, I'll go.

1484
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's fascinating. No, I could see that.

1485
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 2: First of all, you can't get up in darkness, now,

1486
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, it's not to create your day.

1487
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 2: It's too dreary, the darkness, the cold to start your date.

1488
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: You wouldt least need some sort of I wake up

1489
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: five point thirty every morning, right, so it's always dark,

1490
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 2: although I always like the in the spring the summer,

1491
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: like we had the dusk and then light, like when

1492
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 2: the light comes, it's it's the whole meaning of the

1493
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 2: light of the new day.

1494
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it looks like it was nineteen seventy four

1495
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 4: they signed legislation reversing permanent day in daylight saving time

1496
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 4: because it had been done year round. So it was

1497
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy four. I'm looking at this as you know

1498
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 4: live accidents. It was signed into law by Nixon and

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Speaker 4: seventy four to maximize evening sunlight and mitigate the gas crisis.

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01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 4: And so initially when it was signed into law, seventy

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 4: nine percent of Americans expressed support for it, and that

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01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 4: was in December of nineteen seventy three. In February of

1503
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy four, that percentage had decreased to forty two

1504
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 4: percent that actually liked it, and the main drawback was

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 4: prolonged early morning darkness in the winter, which left kids

1506
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 4: heading to school when it was jet black outside. They

1507
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 4: felt like it was unsafe for kids to wait at

1508
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 4: the bus stop, and some wasn't rising until part of

1509
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 4: the way through their school day. It was changing their

1510
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 4: sleep habbits. It was all of those things. So uh.

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01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 4: It lasted a year before Gerald Ford in seventy four

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01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 4: signed a legislation reversing it. So we tried it once

1513
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 4: and it lasted one year. So this is the time

1514
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 4: of year I remind everybody, you know, hey, we've done

1515
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 4: this before. We got rid of it before and it

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01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 4: did not work. Wow.

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01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 3: I never that's good. That's a good item.

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01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 4: Man.

1519
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 3: I never knew I was such a nerd.

1520
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 4: I'm such a nerd.

1521
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 3: I love that.

1522
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: And no, no, because I you know, you figure, you

1523
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 2: know when the older you get, the more you kind

1524
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: of get a crew, right, I didn't.

1525
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. That's awesome.

1526
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate it, don't you hate getting up with

1527
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 2: the I like I like when it's I love the

1528
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 2: light of the morning.

1529
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to get up and have that like

1530
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 4: sun night, sunlight hit me in the face and just

1531
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: start my dad want to carpet the hat. I don't mind.

1532
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 3: Conversely, I don't mind like a being in a bar

1533
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 3: at four thirty. It's dark, all right, that's fair.

1534
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 4: It's already dark at the bar anyway, let's go.

1535
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's happy hour, man, you know, it's all right.

1536
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: So what like I'd rather I definitely rather have the

1537
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,799
Speaker 2: light in the morning. That's funny.

1538
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 3: All right.

1539
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 2: We'll come back and take a look at the NFL

1540
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:15,880
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1541
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1542
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Speaker 2: the jewel of the college football slate this afternoon.

1546
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1547
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Speaker 2: be U FITSI. Let's discuss a little NFL first. We

1553
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: always talk about the Thursday night game and the Jets

1554
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: on Halloween. Uh, you know, it's interesting. I don't know

1555
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 2: how they won, Uh, Garrett Wilson. I mean that catch

1556
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: was absurd, and you know, I know that they damn

1557
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: finally broke for the Texans. Uh defensively, but they had

1558
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: they had. They were giving the Jets fits right like

1559
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 2: they were giving them. You could see how once they

1560
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: labored and if they're so bagged up offensively, Uh, and

1561
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 2: a couple of bad breaks. I still don't know how

1562
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: the Texas lost the game, because, uh, you just got

1563
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: to keep running. You just can't keep running, Joe Mixing right,

1564
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: Like every time they did Stroud went back to pass,

1565
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 2: he got sacked like for like behind the sticks, big sacks.

1566
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that offensive line is just the Texans

1567
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 4: fell apart. The offensive line can't protect him.

1568
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 8: C J.

1569
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 4: Stroud did not have a particularly efficient game, but who could.

1570
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 4: But also the Jets passing defense better than some might think.

1571
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,879
Speaker 4: In fact, Look, I know fantasy football is not real football,

1572
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 4: but there are some metrics from fantasy football that I

1573
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 4: think are important. And it kind of blew my mind

1574
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 4: when I was looking into it for some of my

1575
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 4: Yahoo fantasy worked the other day that the Jets passing

1576
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 4: defense gives up an average of passing points nine point

1577
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 4: nine points to quarterbacks. They don't give up a lot

1578
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 4: of passing touchdowns to quarterbacks. The way that they've been

1579
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 4: beaten as a passing defense is by quarterbacks that can

1580
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 4: also run for touchdowns, which is not really CJ. Stroud's game.

1581
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 4: So it just felt like coming into it, this was

1582
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 4: a weird matchup. Vegas was right, Vegas is always right

1583
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 4: when they favored the Jets, but also the first half

1584
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 4: of that thing, I mean, this thing looked like a disaster.

1585
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 4: And I know Aaron Rodgers feels like maybe they save

1586
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 4: their season. I don't. I just I don't think the

1587
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 4: Jets are a good football team. So I know you

1588
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 4: have to overacize.

1589
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 3: Agree, dude, I think the same thing. I think you're

1590
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 3: you're spot on.

1591
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 2: Like you look at their you know, I love Garrett Wilson,

1592
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 2: Devonte Hopps, right, I mean, I like both their backs.

1593
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: It's amazing, Like I love their offense weapons and their

1594
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 2: defense is good. But they're not what is it that

1595
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: they don't fit? They're just not a good team.

1596
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, them that hasn't gelled together, you know, And like, look,

1597
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 4: they're gonna take on the Cardinals next to Cardinals are

1598
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 4: a better team than you know, I think they're getting

1599
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 4: credit for. The Cults are a bad team. But then

1600
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 4: they have the Seahawks, the Dolphins, who if they're healthy

1601
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 4: or much stuffer, Like just for everyone that's in there saying, well,

1602
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 4: you know what, they're gonna write the ship. They're gonna

1603
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 4: make the playoffs. To make the playoffs, they can only

1604
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 4: lose two games the rest of the year, you know,

1605
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 4: and they still have I mean, and that's that's at

1606
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 4: most two games, maybe only one. They still have the

1607
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 4: Dolphins twice, they still have the Bills. They still have,

1608
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 4: like I said, the Cardinals, the Seahawks, like they're gonna

1609
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 4: be They're gonna be the underdog in several of these games.

1610
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 4: I just I think people are taking one half of

1611
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 4: football and making too much of it. I need to

1612
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 4: see actual four quarters of really good football from the

1613
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 4: Jets before I'm bien.

1614
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you. It's my man.

1615
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 2: Kyle's chill brings up a good point about Rogers, saying,

1616
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 2: you know, he's just too old, and he's right, like,

1617
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 2: if you look at him every time he gets hit,

1618
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 2: you wins for him.

1619
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 4: I mean, he looks are we allowed to say this.

1620
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 4: He looks kind of washed, like it's just not I mean,

1621
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 4: he looks Aaron Rodgers washed, right, Like he doesn't look

1622
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 4: washed like you know, brock Osweiler, but he just doesn't

1623
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 4: look like himself. And no, I think that's probably okay

1624
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 4: to admit.

1625
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think you got I think that's

1626
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 2: that's spot on one. Like I look at it and

1627
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 2: I go, Joe Flacco looks good, right, Why does Joe

1628
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:57,839
Speaker 2: Flacco look good and Aaron Rodgers doesn't.

1629
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 4: I mean part of this is that the Jets offense

1630
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 4: line still just isn't good enough, you know.

1631
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think you're right. I think that's it.

1632
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 4: And we've known that now. I mean, yeah, it's just

1633
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 4: now we're a couple of couple of years of this

1634
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 4: where it's like, man, they're trying, but it's just not.

1635
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 4: We undervalue you. And I talk about this all the time,

1636
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 4: but it is just hard to find a good quality

1637
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 4: offensive line that one true hold on to it, like

1638
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 4: for dear life, it just isn't much out there that's

1639
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 4: worth Like, there are very few lines you look at

1640
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 4: right now and you say, oh man, that offensive line

1641
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 4: gets it. And the Jets don't have one.

1642
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: You're spot on I and again, and it makes him

1643
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 2: look worse, right, like, it just does because he's and look,

1644
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 2: he's still like there was a play where he moved

1645
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 2: and he looked pretty decent moving. But overall, I think

1646
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: you're right. I think it's the it's that old line.

1647
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: That old line is is just you know, it can't

1648
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 2: protect them, It just can't. U. But I'll tell you this.

1649
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 2: I love what the Ravens did getting Deontay Johnson. Are

1650
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: you kidding me, dude? That's nothing great. I love Deontay Johnson.

1651
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 2: I was shocked he went for that cheap and you

1652
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 2: look at him on the Ravens. Oh my god, the

1653
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 2: way Lamar is playing, he's got You know what's insane

1654
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: is that all of a sudden, look at the weapons

1655
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: he has. He's gone an all time epic running back.

1656
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 2: He's got great receivers now, like you want to tell

1657
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 2: him about great receiving play like I love Zay Flowers.

1658
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: He's got three tight ends. Two of them are are

1659
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 2: are like automatic you know, playmakers, and a great old line.

1660
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 4: Well, and I feel like this is a rare year

1661
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 4: in the NFL. I think somebody said the other day.

1662
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 4: There's already been nine. So the trade deadline is Tuesday also,

1663
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,799
Speaker 4: and you know they pushed it back later into the season,

1664
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 4: but there's already been so many of them. But what

1665
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 4: the Ravens are showing you is that they understand their

1666
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 4: weakness on the defensive side of the ball. They understand

1667
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 4: that they're gonna have to be able to score a

1668
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 4: lot of points, and they also understand they're in a

1669
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 4: super Bowl window. So they went out and aggressively addressed it.

1670
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 4: I love just going in and saying, hey, like, we're

1671
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 4: gonna make sure that our two time MVP, Like that's

1672
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 4: just this, this is Derrick Henry's team. The Ravens lose

1673
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,759
Speaker 4: when they forget to give the ball to Derrick Henry

1674
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 4: a punch. But that being said, their two time NFL

1675
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 4: MVP quarterback just got another weapon to play with. And now,

1676
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, every single team in the league

1677
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 4: is then have to figure out how to stop yet

1678
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 4: another person. While you also can't necessarily put that much

1679
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 4: effort into stopping Deontay Johnson because you still got to

1680
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 4: figure out how to slow down Derrick Henry. Like they

1681
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 4: they are built like a monster truck they're just gonna

1682
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 4: roll over people. I'm stunned their record isn't better because

1683
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 4: I still believe that on paper they they should be

1684
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 4: the best team in the NFL, the best team in

1685
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 4: the AFC at least.

1686
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: Well, But here's the thing now, and this is where

1687
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't know about the best team, but I'd love

1688
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 2: the way the ANFC is shaken out because you have

1689
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 2: three superpowers, and they are they're all super to three superpowers.

1690
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 2: That's why we're talking about the Jets making the playoffs.

1691
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: It's like, who cares you're gonna get beat by one

1692
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: of the superpowers. And the superpowers are Baltimore Buffalo, and

1693
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 2: you look at what Buffalo has done and how getting

1694
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: a receiver that's amazing, right, Getting a receiver like Amari

1695
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 2: Cooper for Josh Allen because as great as Lamar's playing

1696
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: is as good as Alan's playing, right, and then getting

1697
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: a received, getting a receiver like DeAndre Hopkins for Mahomes.

1698
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, that coaching staff and that defense,

1699
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the Chiefs are right there, like

1700
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: those three superpowers, and the AFC are awesome.

1701
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,759
Speaker 3: They're there there. That's fun.

1702
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 4: Well, as you and I have talked about so many times.

1703
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 4: The conversation around the Chiefs is how broken they are,

1704
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 4: but they're undefeated, you know, like that's just we're sitting

1705
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 4: here saying constantly, Well, the Chiefs gotta do this, The

1706
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 4: Chiefs gotta do this. No, they don't have to do

1707
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 4: a damn thing because all they do is win. Like

1708
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 4: all this team does is win ugly football games and

1709
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 4: it's just every week and just what we're gonna do

1710
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 4: when we get to the playoffs, Well, the bubble's gonna

1711
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 4: burst this week. No, nope. I mean that Kansas City

1712
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 4: team is as ugly as it could possibly be and

1713
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 4: they're doing it and they're winning every single football game

1714
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 4: that way.

1715
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 2: So you crazy the deadline. If I were them, there's

1716
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 2: one position I would go after. I still think they

1717
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: need one more player, and what position I thought you're

1718
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:57,799
Speaker 2: gonna guess.

1719
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 4: I mean, they did addressed the wide receiver enough that

1720
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 4: you're happy at the wide receiver.

1721
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I think they need another board.

1722
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 4: Then they're gonna take it aback.

1723
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 3: I think they need another running back.

1724
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 4: Okay, how buy that?

1725
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 2: I mean you could say you're one about Hunt and

1726
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of like half heartily like hunt,

1727
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 2: they and it got forbid.

1728
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 3: Something happens there.

1729
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 2: They got nothing right, Like I would go out there

1730
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 2: are now we're in the We're back to having a lot,

1731
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: a plethora of really good.

1732
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 3: Running backs, you know when and we're and.

1733
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 2: I love how these teams are rating the bad teams

1734
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: like it's great. I would look and I would look

1735
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: around the league and I would find me at a

1736
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: secondary back.

1737
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I've heard a couple of insiders, including Charles

1738
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 4: Robinson at Yahoo, say that Alvin Kamara is a name

1739
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 4: to watch.

1740
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a perfect city.

1741
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 4: Why not, Like if I'm Kansas City, go out and

1742
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 4: get get Alvin Kamara. You know that that's Saints fans.

1743
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 4: You just got to accept the fact that this season's

1744
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 4: right and so get what you can out of it.

1745
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 2: Because I don't know what's contract. Can they fit him

1746
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 2: with his cap? I will look out because I mean

1747
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:13,839
Speaker 2: that that would be like now, he's a perfect Kamar

1748
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 2: is a perfect for Andy because Ay could do a lot.

1749
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 2: I have some fun with some backs with a back

1750
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 2: like Kamar because he's still he could still play.

1751
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 3: Kamar could still play.

1752
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 4: Alvin's got a big cap number sixteen million this year. Yeah,

1753
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 4: big number.

1754
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if he could be moved, but

1755
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: I would be looking for a back that's I'd be

1756
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 2: looking to poach. I look some bad teams and look

1757
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 2: at and look to poach some backs. I think that's

1758
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 2: the best way for them, because I love where Buffalo's at,

1759
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: I mean Cooper, they have a great running game and

1760
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 2: the way Alan's playing, and their defense has come together.

1761
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 2: Baltimore is, like you said, has the super offense and

1762
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Kansas City's got the really really good defense, and you know,

1763
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 2: I think could you and Hopkins helps obviously in a

1764
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 2: big way.

1765
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see.

1766
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say, Hopkins is a really interesting

1767
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 4: addition for them because he's just a guy that knows

1768
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 4: how to get open right. And if you were Kansas City,

1769
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 4: what you needed to bring in was a veteran wide

1770
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 4: receiver that can learn quickly, that can communicate quickly, and

1771
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 4: that you know, can can gel with Mahomes quickly and

1772
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 4: what that offense needs to do. It's just and I

1773
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 4: don't think it's an accident that we're seeing Travis Kelson

1774
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 4: get so much out of this too. So yeah, I

1775
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 4: think that was a great addition for them.

1776
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 2: So all is because I don't think anybody could touch those.

1777
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 2: I look at those three and then I think it's

1778
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 2: clear now that we are in the middle part of

1779
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 2: the season, that those are the superpowers of the the AFC.

1780
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 3: The NFC is a little bit more wide open.

1781
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 4: Well there's one. Let me let me just ask you.

1782
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 4: I don't think that's a superpower. Yeah, but that's my

1783
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 4: only question is that this is the most under talked

1784
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 4: about six and two I can remember for Pittsburgh, right like, yeah,

1785
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 4: I mean, and there is this moment and I keep

1786
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 4: going back to what Tomlin said, you know, never confused

1787
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 4: good for great when he made the decision to put

1788
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson in at the quarterback. And I thought it

1789
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 4: was a weird decision at the time. Most of us

1790
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 4: thought it was a weird decision at the time. And

1791
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 4: boys been glorious and Russ looks far better than I

1792
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 4: ever would have expected that he would look. And if

1793
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm the Steelers, I'm sitting at six and two, and man,

1794
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 4: I'm pretty I know they beat up on three straight

1795
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 4: bad teams right like, so I would love to see

1796
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 4: it against like they got Washington this week than the

1797
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 4: Ravens next week. Let's see where they look after those

1798
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 4: two games, because you know, I just man, I think

1799
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 4: maybe we're sleeping on Pittsburgh a little bit. They're not

1800
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 4: in that same level, but they're not that far off.

1801
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 3: To me, it's interesting. I don't know. I don't know.

1802
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 4: I come on, you want to say a defense wins championships?

1803
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 4: You want to be that guy? Come on, buddy, come

1804
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 4: with me.

1805
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to say. I just don't think it.

1806
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 2: I I love defense, uh and defense still matters, but

1807
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't win championships. You gotta go out down the

1808
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 2: field and score. I don't trust RUSS. I love the Steelers.

1809
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 2: I love the way I love Tomlin. I'm a huge

1810
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin fan. I love when when nag he's going

1811
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 2: downhill right like that's fun, that's stealer football, and he's

1812
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 2: rumbling and you know, you look at their attacking defense

1813
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 2: and I love that. But I don't think that they're

1814
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 2: on the level of those three teams. And I don't

1815
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 2: think they're close to them either.

1816
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 4: The harder part for me isn't just believing in Russ.

1817
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 4: It's that I gotta believe in George Pickens to be

1818
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,520
Speaker 4: in it every single week and when he's in it,

1819
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 4: it's good. But I just don't know right now that

1820
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 4: I can tell you that. But I I could not

1821
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 4: trust if I had a bit my house on George Pickens.

1822
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:01,759
Speaker 4: I'm not betting.

1823
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I listen, I'm with you, but even like,

1824
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 2: but let's let's be real here for a second. When

1825
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 2: we talk about Russ, Like, can can you close your

1826
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 2: eyes and imagine Russ, you know, going down the field

1827
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 2: in Buffalo, in Kansas City or Baltimore and winning games

1828
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 2: and and keeping up with those teams.

1829
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 3: I just can't say it.

1830
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 4: No, I totally agree with you, Honestly, I totally agree

1831
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 4: with you.

1832
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 2: And again Shane, because I like the Steelers, and I

1833
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 2: love Tomlin, and I love their attitude and you know,

1834
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 2: it's a great atmosphere. To me, it's football in so

1835
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 2: many ways. I just just keeping.

1836
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 3: It one haunted.

1837
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't, just don't say it.

1838
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 4: You've actually talked me out of it. Never mind, Steelers

1839
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:53,600
Speaker 4: going from the conversation.

1840
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 3: Uh, and stay in the NFC. But we'll go to

1841
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 3: the NFC coming up next.

1842
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 2: But standing I see, obviously, the big news this week

1843
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 2: was the whole Anthony Richardson fiasco. So I'm curious about

1844
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: where you stand on that. Where where do you because

1845
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: it's completely outrageous.

1846
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 4: It's my byes. It is so wildly stupid that it's

1847
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 4: actually irresponsible. And to me, all of it is about

1848
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,799
Speaker 4: what you knew you were drafting. And you know, Chris Ballad,

1849
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 4: the GM of the Colts, actually told one of our

1850
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 4: insiders when he was drafted, you know, you got to

1851
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 4: understand the ups and downs, basically paraphrasing that we know

1852
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 4: that there's going to be peaks and valleys, and we

1853
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 4: just got to see the kid through it. Because the

1854
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 4: one thing that we all knew Anthony Richardson needed when

1855
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 4: he was drafted was time on task. He needs to

1856
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 4: be on the field. I don't care how bad it looks.

1857
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 4: He is one of the rare. Like if you want

1858
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 4: to sit somebody and give him time to develop, I

1859
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 4: get that. But somebody that only played thirteen games in

1860
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 4: his college career and I was only played ten games

1861
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 4: in the pros. And I had a scout tell me

1862
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 4: last week that the number of every but he's looking for

1863
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 4: is twenty four. If you could have twenty four games

1864
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 4: of college film on a kid, then you really feel

1865
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 4: like you have a sense of who they are as

1866
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 4: a quarterback. Anthony Richardson doesn't have twenty four games combined

1867
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 4: in the NFL and in college, so one thing he

1868
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,799
Speaker 4: has to have is time on the field and putting

1869
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 4: him on the sidelines knowing he needs that time on

1870
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 4: the field more than any other quarterback because of his

1871
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 4: lack of experience. You're just basically throwing the position away.

1872
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,799
Speaker 4: You're throwing the kid away, You're throwing the draft pick away.

1873
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,560
Speaker 4: It's none of it makes sense. I so what the

1874
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 4: cults are gonna play Joe Flacco and try and make

1875
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 4: the playoffs this year so that they can get their

1876
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 4: butts kicked. That's fine, but they just basically told the

1877
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 4: world that they've got a ten year question again at

1878
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 4: the quarterback position.

1879
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, except he's he's here's the thing. He needs time

1880
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 2: on the field, but he also needs to learn, like

1881
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 2: he should not have. I wouldn't have played him right away.

1882
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 2: I think the biggest mistake that they made because you

1883
01:36:56,160 --> 01:37:00,719
Speaker 2: see the dynamic ability, right, so kids got ability. He's

1884
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:06,679
Speaker 2: so raw, he's so immature. You gotta there's a reason

1885
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:11,600
Speaker 2: why Jordan Love looks way more polished in just his

1886
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 2: second year. And I'm a big believer in letting him

1887
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 2: and letting him see and sit and watch and wait

1888
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,719
Speaker 2: and learn, like not just on the field, but off

1889
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 2: it and learn how to be a quarterback and learn

1890
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 2: about the Yeah, dude, you don't tap out like like

1891
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I.

1892
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't listen.

1893
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's a kid, right, I can look at

1894
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 2: my son, right, who's eleven, plays quarterback, and and like

1895
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 2: I had to give him a whole conversation last night

1896
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 2: about uh, you know, walkthroughs.

1897
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 3: Walk throughs.

1898
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 2: You're boring, daddy? Why do I have to go? I go, dude, Well,

1899
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,560
Speaker 2: first of all, you're the freaking quarterback, all right, you

1900
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 2: need to show some leadership. And we don't miss practice, right, don't.

1901
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 2: We don't miss practice, And we definitely don't miss a

1902
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 2: walk through because walk through. You got a game on

1903
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 2: Sunday today. He was to walk through. This is kind

1904
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 2: of what we're looking at. What are plays? What are

1905
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 2: we going to do? Not everything because they're you know,

1906
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 2: he's eleven, and they think it's boring and it's not right.

1907
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 2: They get explained to him, so he he's close. Put

1908
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 2: it this way, Anthony Richardson is closer to Masmo than

1909
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 2: he is to us, right, So he doesn't know tapping out?

1910
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 3: What does he know about tapping out? Right? Like, he's

1911
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 3: got to be He's got to be taught all that stuff.

1912
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 2: Now, dude, you gotta get on the field, you like

1913
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 2: if you really that gas lay down on the ground

1914
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 2: at fake a injury, right like you know, you just

1915
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 2: you can't.

1916
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 3: You can't. It's just a horrible look.

1917
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 2: You can't do that, dude, And that's why he should

1918
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 2: never have been playing in the first place. It was

1919
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 2: a dramatic error by Styching to play that.

1920
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 4: Kid, there had to be like game. There had to

1921
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 4: be a business plan, like from the day you drafted him.

1922
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 4: You had to have a business plan and no matter

1923
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 4: whatever happened, you had to stay true to that business plan.

1924
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Speaker 4: The Colts didn't do that, and that's why I think

1925
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Speaker 4: short term, long term both ways, they're screwed at this one.

1926
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I feel you all right with a quick

1927
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Speaker 2: time out, will come back. We'll dive into the NSC

1928
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Speaker 2: fellas hanging out right here.

1929
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1930
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1931
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1933
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1934
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1935
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get a trending and then we'll come

1944
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Speaker 2: back and start to tackle the NFC.

1945
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Speaker 7: Yep, we've already reached week ten of the college football season.

1946
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 7: We had three games under the Friday night lights and

1947
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 7: number fifteen Boise State looking like they might be the

1948
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 7: favorite to make the playoff.

1949
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 6: As the group of five representative.

1950
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 1: O'Neil dakes it to Cooper.

1951
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 2: It throws at the right side, intercepted at the thirty

1952
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 2: three by McCoy.

1953
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: It's a pick six.

1954
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 3: It's twenty to nothing.

1955
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 2: McCoy right the play all the way.

1956
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 7: He didn't buy the fake to Cooper at Boise State,

1957
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 7: leading twenty to nothing call from KBOI Radio in a

1958
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 7: Boise as the Broncos roll over the San Diego State

1959
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 7: as Techs fifty six to twenty four to improve this

1960
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 7: seven and one on the season, Yukon is Bowl eligible.

1961
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 7: The Husky's a thirty four to twenty seven win against

1962
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 7: Georgia State to move to six and three. South Florida

1963
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 7: blows out Florida Atlantic forty four to twenty one. Huge

1964
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 7: matchup in the NBA on Friday night, Timberwolves and Nuggets

1965
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 7: in Minneapolis, and Minnesota with a big hell from Anthony

1966
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 7: Edwards down the stretch wins it one, nineteen one sixteen.

1967
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Speaker 7: Edwards with twenty nine points, jok rebound shy of a

1968
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 7: triple double twenty six points, nine rebounds, thirteen assists. But

1969
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 7: the Nuggets some tough news as Jamal Murray had to

1970
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 7: leave the game in the third quarter and has since

1971
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 7: entered a concussion protocol.

1972
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 2: Back over to the fellas, All right, thanks buddy, we

1973
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 2: are the fellas. Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargana, coming you live

1974
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 2: from the IRAQ dot Com studios. All right, let's go

1975
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 2: deep dive in the NFC, of course, lines a huge

1976
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 2: game tomorrow Lions and Packers. My man, it's gonna be

1977
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 2: uh it's quote one and I'm curious again. We talked

1978
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 2: about the loss of Aidan Hutchinson and how that thing

1979
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 2: will affect the Lions. I'm curious this week because you'll

1980
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 2: learn a lot about, you know, kind of where the

1981
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 2: lines are. Defensively, Offensively, they're ridiculous, right like you saw

1982
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 2: it last week. They just can score and attack you

1983
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 2: from all different angles. Two great running backs, a great

1984
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 2: receiving core. Now you gotta deal without Jameson Williams. And

1985
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 2: don't get me started on the guns. I don't understand

1986
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 2: it why you need to be carrying guns with you,

1987
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 2: but whatever, Jameson Williams out for a couple of games.

1988
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 2: That offense, though one complete, is obviously the biggest force

1989
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 2: in the NFC.

1990
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but also, you know, as some of the guy

1991
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 4: on the show that's simply never doubted Jordan Love, I'm excited.

1992
01:42:57,120 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 4: I'm kidding, I am kidding loudly. We all know that

1993
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 4: I am. I am the first to admit that I

1994
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 4: have had my questions, let's say politely, on the the

1995
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 4: overall trajectory of Jordan Love and how it has been well, no, no, no,

1996
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 4: but I think I.

1997
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:17,200
Speaker 3: Bring that up.

1998
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 4: No, but like you know me, like I'll admit when

1999
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 4: I'm right, and I'll admit when I'm wrong, And I think,

2000
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 4: you know, you look at the way that this is

2001
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 4: worked out. The funny thing to me is if you

2002
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 4: look at just at the numbers, If you look just

2003
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 4: at the numbers. As much as we love Jared Goff,

2004
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 4: Jordan Love's numbers are comparable and everybody he's got a

2005
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 4: few more picks, but you talk about overall completion percentage, yardage, like,

2006
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 4: I think, actually we've gone from over hyping Jordan Love

2007
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 4: to maybe under hyping him a little bit, if that's

2008
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 4: if that's even at all possible. And the fact is

2009
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 4: the Packers have absolutely surprised me. I thought the Packers

2010
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 4: would take a little step back. You look, they have

2011
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,679
Speaker 4: two losses this year. One was obviously Week one against Eagles.

2012
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 4: I really don't care what happened in Week one. The

2013
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 4: other was a two point law to the Vikings. And

2014
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 4: other than that, they have just they've been able to

2015
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 4: win a lot of close football games. I give them

2016
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 4: a lot of credit for that. It's interesting to me.

2017
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 4: I think this is like the real test right when

2018
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:13,559
Speaker 4: you take on the Lions. Now, the Lions have become

2019
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:17,680
Speaker 4: the tester, so I'm interested to see this offense is

2020
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,919
Speaker 4: gonna have to be able to put up what high twenties,

2021
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 4: low thirties against the Lions to win. That's the way

2022
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 4: you try and beat Detroit. So I think this is

2023
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 4: a huge prove it moment for Green Bay and for

2024
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 4: the Packers. But if you ask me today right now,

2025
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 4: take the records, throw them in the trash. You asked

2026
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 4: me today, right now, what team is the best team

2027
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 4: in the NFL. I do not care that the Kansas

2028
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 4: City Chiefs are undefeated. I think the Lions are playing

2029
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 4: the best football in the NFL on both sides of

2030
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 4: the ball. Complimentary, as I like to say too much.

2031
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 4: Even without Aiden Hutchinson last week, they still got pressure.

2032
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 4: I think the Lions right now they look as solid

2033
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 4: as any team in the league. If I had to

2034
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 4: make a Super Bowl champion pick today and beat Detroit.

2035
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and you know me. I like Detroit

2036
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 2: coming of the season. I felt that they were the best,

2037
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 2: the best team, and I do like the Packers. I

2038
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 2: think the Packers, I think that I think what you're

2039
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 2: talking about with Love?

2040
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 3: Is he listen? He he you The Packers.

2041
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 2: Rely on Jordan Love more than the Lions rely on golf.

2042
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 2: Not a slight of golf. But when you have those

2043
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 2: two running get those two running backs and that running game,

2044
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it just makes the offense that much easier

2045
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 2: to navigate. And then you throw the weapons in and

2046
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 2: and that's the beauty of how GoF what Gof's done,

2047
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 2: And he's found a perfect home man. He runs that

2048
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 2: thing really really well. So but the Packers need Love

2049
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 2: a little bit more. They have a good running game,

2050
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 2: but it's about their you know, array of receivers, right,

2051
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:52,679
Speaker 2: they got lots of wide outs.

2052
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 3: You go five deep wide outs.

2053
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,600
Speaker 2: You got tight adds two of them, right, So you

2054
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 2: got you got a lot of weapons, and you're gonna

2055
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 2: rely more on on on Love's arm. The Lions played

2056
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:07,520
Speaker 2: Downhill on you and they just beat you up. There

2057
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 2: was I remember talking to somebody actually we talked about

2058
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 2: this years ago when you played the Ravens, teams were

2059
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:24,919
Speaker 2: banged up after the week after, and the same Ravens

2060
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 2: effect from years ago is in play now with the Lions.

2061
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 2: Like after you play the Lions, I got to look

2062
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 2: at it. I was talking to somebody who gave me

2063
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 2: the stat and I forget it was a great stat

2064
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 2: teams off of Lions games and how bad they are,

2065
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 2: and it's because of how physical they play.

2066
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 4: Now, which speaks to their identity. Obviously, it speaks to

2067
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell in the way that he runs his football team.

2068
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 4: I think those are all fair things of sort of.

2069
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 4: The big difference is for them, they have a sense

2070
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 4: of exactly who they are and exactly how they want

2071
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 4: to do it and exactly what they're trying to do

2072
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 4: in everything that they do from a transaction point, you know.

2073
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 4: And I think that's a big part of what we

2074
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 4: have to remember in the off seasons. We need to

2075
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 4: stop questioning the Lions. And I say that because it

2076
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,759
Speaker 4: wasn't that long ago that well Jared Goff that that's

2077
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 4: never going to work, and then it worked. I was

2078
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 4: covering the draft obviously for ESPN that year when they

2079
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 4: took Jamier Gibbs in the first round and Sam la

2080
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 4: Porter in the third round, and people are in the

2081
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,600
Speaker 4: second round, I should say, and people were blowing that

2082
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 4: Jack Campbell was the other first round pick, if I

2083
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 4: remember correctly, They were blowing that draft up as, oh

2084
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 4: my god, this is so stupid, why would you do

2085
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,639
Speaker 4: business that way? And what do you know? It turned

2086
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 4: out to be the they knew exactly what they're doing,

2087
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 4: exactly how they were doing. The teams that win in

2088
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 4: the NFL the highest possible level are the teams that

2089
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 4: shut out the noise and just do what they know

2090
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 4: is right. Like Kansas City did it when they decided

2091
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 4: they were gonna go with Mahomes instead of Alex Smith,

2092
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 4: which was not universally praised as a decision at the time.

2093
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 4: I remember Buffalo did it when they realized they had

2094
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 4: Josh Allen and everybody else said he was never gonna

2095
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 4: get accurate. They're like, shut up, we know what we're doing.

2096
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 4: We're doing it our way. We're gonna take our time.

2097
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 4: They shut out the outside noise. The Lions had become

2098
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 4: that right, Like they got the quarterback nobody thought was

2099
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 4: gonna work. They had a draft that everybody thought was stupid,

2100
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you sit around now it's like, oh,

2101
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 4: what do you know? They absolutely destroy teams defensively, playing

2102
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 4: physical football, and then on top of that, oh yeah,

2103
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 4: they've got an explosive offense that can work from everywhere

2104
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 4: because they absolutely knew exactly what they were building from

2105
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 4: the day they built it.

2106
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 3: Right. They have great that online school.

2107
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 2: Don't think they're just nasty, and you know they beat

2108
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 2: you up not only defensively but offensively because they pound

2109
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:52,639
Speaker 2: you with that line and that running game.

2110
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 3: Man.

2111
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:58,879
Speaker 2: You know Montgomery, Montgomery, Montgomery bang right, there's Jamar Jamir

2112
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 2: Gibbs like that is that. It's a great team, man,

2113
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 2: it really is. You know, it's a shame. And I

2114
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 2: really feel bad about Lusion Hutchinson because he was such

2115
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 2: a great player and what he meant to that front

2116
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 2: is a big deal. But that game that's gonna be

2117
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 2: a fun game. That NFC North is is really it's

2118
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 2: just a lot of fun. I mean, then you got

2119
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:29,639
Speaker 2: Minnesota Sunday Night against Indie and Flacco, which I think

2120
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 2: is a good game. It's good test. I think the

2121
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 2: Vikings are five point favorites.

2122
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:36,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, that feels about right though. I mean that Minnesota defense,

2123
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 4: I know, has been challenged more the last couple of weeks,

2124
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 4: so some of the shine has come off of them.

2125
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 4: But this is the Colts. The Colts have some weapons,

2126
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 4: a wide receiver, the Colts have the ability to Obviously,

2127
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 4: they're playing Flacco because they think he can take better

2128
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 4: advantage of those weapons. I get it, but I think

2129
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 4: this is a bit of a get right opportunity for

2130
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 4: the Vikings. And you know, I still look at this

2131
01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 4: division up and down and say, I don't I know,

2132
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 4: going to beat up on each other. And that's the

2133
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 4: reason people think they won't all make the playoffs. But

2134
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, every one of the teams in

2135
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 4: that division feel like they are good enough to be

2136
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Speaker 4: a playoff team, including Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Chicago is still I still look

2138
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 2: at it side eyed. I mean, Caleb is going to

2139
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Speaker 2: be a player, it's just a matter of times.

2140
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 8: And.

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01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 3: He's going to give you. You know, it's gonna be

2142
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 3: rookie mistakes.

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Speaker 4: I know, and that's fair. Yeah, Like that's the one

2144
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 4: thing that makes me nervous. Does he go through that

2145
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 4: two or three game spelled the rookies go through where

2146
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 4: all of a sudden he forgets which team he's playing.

2147
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 4: And Caleb's natural instinct that gets in his way sometimes

2148
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 4: is I'm going to make a play out of this,

2149
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 4: and that that makes me nervous sometimes, man, makes me nervous.

2150
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you just got to learn it to throw

2151
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 2: it away and lived for the next play.

2152
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 3: That's a cliche, but it's it's legit.

2153
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 2: Now for a reason, you know, right, his father ripped

2154
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 2: Eberflus by praising the the commander's coaching staff, and which

2155
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 2: is not fair, you know.

2156
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:03,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you can say what you want.

2157
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 2: I know DJ Moore came out and ripped the play

2158
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 2: and the whole thing. Am I going to fall back

2159
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 2: dive and whatever? I mean, truthfully, you can't lose the

2160
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 2: game because you know you're you're dawn with fans and

2161
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 2: then you run back into field of play and then

2162
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 2: you tip the ball when that was your Amanda box out.

2163
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:28,600
Speaker 2: I mean they lose the game like that. That's a

2164
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 2: game losing horrific play more than anything that happened on

2165
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,679
Speaker 2: offense that was that should never have happened.

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01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's suffocatingly bad. To lose that way is just Look,

2167
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 4: I think the world was too tough on Malachi who

2168
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 4: for fumbling and the Jets one play, more often than not,

2169
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 4: one stupid mental error is no different. Dropping the ball

2170
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 4: at the goal line is a dumb thing to do.

2171
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 4: So's lining up off side. So's a false start, like

2172
01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 4: all of these things, they're all dumb plays. There's a

2173
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 4: difference between that and I am just out here chirp

2174
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 4: and chirp and chirping, and all of a sudden, I'm

2175
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 4: not even paying attention to the snap of the ball

2176
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:11,600
Speaker 4: like that. Just that's a different level of discipline, Like

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01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 4: that's one of those moments that.

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Speaker 3: Stuff with kids. Let my kids do stuff like that.

2179
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Speaker 4: And that's that's crazy. That's that's crazy. That should have

2180
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 4: been coached out of him a long time ago.

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01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 3: Yep, let's take a quick deal.

2182
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 2: We'll come right back as we continue our deep dive

2183
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 2: into the NFC where the fellas hanging out right here

2184
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargan hanging

2185
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 2: out here from the tire Rack dot Com studios. So, uh,

2186
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 2: we went through, We're going through the NFC, and let's

2187
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 2: stay set. So the North we know, are you know,

2188
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 2: just ridiculous, right, there's nobody in this south right Tampa.

2189
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:02,600
Speaker 2: You can cross off now losing you know, and you

2190
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 2: lose those receivers, You're done. Uh, Atlanta, I don't buy Atlanta.

2191
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 3: You buy Atlanta.

2192
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 4: I think I buy Atlanta to be pretty good. But

2193
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 4: I don't buy Atlanta as like a great super Bowl

2194
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 4: caliber team. I buy it Atlanta as you know. It's

2195
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 4: interesting because people keep saying, well, Kirk Cousins is getting

2196
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:24,600
Speaker 4: his rhythm and everything's looking better. They are doing a

2197
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 4: better job of using their weapons, which I respect. Their

2198
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 4: final I finally feel like Drake London is becoming who

2199
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 4: we Yeah.

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01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 3: I like their offense. I do.

2201
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 2: Pitts has showing you that he could play right, He's

2202
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 2: got a real quarterback. Now. I love Beijon and in Algier.

2203
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 2: I like those guys. I don't know how good your

2204
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 2: defense is.

2205
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Okay is probably the best case, right,

2206
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 4: not chance. Not. The thing of it is when we

2207
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 4: say are we buying them? I think that they they're

2208
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:53,599
Speaker 4: a pretty good team that's going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I think they win that division.

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01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they win that division. But do I buy

2211
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,040
Speaker 4: them in the same category as the best of the

2212
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 4: best from the rest of the conference? God?

2213
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 2: No, Well, and I don't buy them, Like, let's look

2214
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 2: at the other the other teams that are contenders. Right,

2215
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:10,639
Speaker 2: so we'll save the East because you got Washington.

2216
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 3: We'll talk more about them coming up.

2217
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 2: And the Eagles that have that have played better, but

2218
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 2: out West, I still think, you know, you got the

2219
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:25,719
Speaker 2: Niners and you're you're they'll get They're gonna get McCaffrey back.

2220
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 2: They're really good, they're well coached, So I, you know,

2221
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 2: I think that they're they're going to make a run.

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01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 2: And I like the Rams, man, I think DRAMs are dangerous.

2223
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 4: Both of those teams are sitting here saying, man, we've

2224
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 4: been waiting to get healthy, you know. And it's funny

2225
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 4: because one game does make such a huge difference. It

2226
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 4: was a week and a half ago everybody's sitting here saying, well,

2227
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 4: the Rams might blow this thing up. You know, the

2228
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 4: Rams might have to trade everybody, blah blah blah blah blah,

2229
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, it's like, Nope, the

2230
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 4: Rams just kind of get healthy. And when they are healthy,

2231
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 4: we see exactly how good they can look. So yeah,

2232
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 4: I think I think the Rams have every shot at

2233
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 4: making a dangerous run here too. And you know, I

2234
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 4: don't think Arizona's a particularly good team, but Arizona's still

2235
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 4: at least playing meaningful football, right like, so I can't

2236
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 4: count Arizona out. I just don't think Arizona's in the

2237
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 4: same level as the other two. The other two has

2238
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 4: just been so hurt.

2239
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think Arizona wins this week, but like,

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Speaker 2: I think they beat Chicago. But I agree with you,

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01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 2: I don't buy. I wish the Rams defense was a

2242
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 2: little better. But I think their offense is could be

2243
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,839
Speaker 2: really good and they could just protect and stay healthy online.

2244
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 2: I think they could be dangerous.

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01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the forty nine ers, by the way, are

2246
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 4: where they are basically with their backups, like their second

2247
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 4: string is keeping them where they are, which to.

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01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 3: Me, yeah, I don't know. I do.

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01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 2: I like san fran I think san Franz legit, and

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01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 2: then you go I like.

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01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 3: Seattle. I don't.

2252
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 2: I'm not a I'm not a believer. Now, obviously you

2253
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 2: need DK for anything to do in Seattle. I think

2254
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 2: you need DK.

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Speaker 4: Well, don't you. I think Kenneth Walker the third two

2256
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 4: makes me a believer in anything, because I just I

2257
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 4: believe he saves offenses. What do you not? I'm sort

2258
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 4: of torn on Seattle too. I just there have been

2259
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 4: good and bad moments. I feel like Seattle is the

2260
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 4: perfect example of what the NFL is this year, Like

2261
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 4: there are times that I look at it in my keep.

2262
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 4: I totally get it. And there are times I look

2263
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 4: at it and I have no idea what they're doing.

2264
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a big fan. I don't know. I

2265
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 3: look at the Seahawks. I'm not impressed.

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01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not I've never been a big Geno guy,

2267
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 2: So I mean, I think he's all right, like you know,

2268
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 2: I mean, and then I look at their defense and

2269
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 2: it's young in the secondary, and I think secondary wise,

2270
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 2: like down the line, it.

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01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 3: Could be good. I don't think they're really good up front.

2272
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 3: I don't think they're contender.

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01:56:57,280 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 2: I you know, they do nothing that I fear, Like

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01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 2: I look at these teams right and I go, all right,

2275
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 2: what's is there?

2276
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 3: Do they have something that I fear? Is there is

2277
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 3: there a piece of.

2278
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 2: Them that's so good that could change the dynamic?

2279
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, you see anything on that squad.

2280
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 4: I think that speaks to the lack of belief in

2281
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 4: Geno at some level. Because when you have, presuming DK

2282
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 4: gets healthy, if you have DK and you have JSN

2283
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 4: and you have you have Kenneth Walker the third, you

2284
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 4: should have enough weapons on the offensive side of the

2285
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 4: ball that you're scared of them. I think the defensive side,

2286
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 4: we all knew was going to take a second to

2287
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 4: jail together. They're a little ahead of schedule in my mind,

2288
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 4: but they were going to take a second to jail

2289
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 4: together because that defense is complicated that they're learning the

2290
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 4: new system.

2291
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 3: But they all, you know, think about it.

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01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:49,360
Speaker 2: They got They got beat by the Niners at home,

2293
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 2: banged up Niners earlier in October. They get beat, they

2294
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 2: get destroyed by the Bills last week at home. The

2295
01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 2: Giants beat them at home. I mean they lost three

2296
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 2: times in October at home, and that was always a

2297
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 2: place where you didn't want to They could never lose.

2298
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:07,840
Speaker 4: And they struggled to beat bad teams.

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Speaker 2: Been all over the place, from baseball in the World

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01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 2: Series and the Dodgers to the NBA's obviously all the

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01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 2: football and you heard we were talking about earlier four

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Speaker 2: hours from now Happy Valley. It's Ohio State Penn State.

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01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 2: It's a great rivalry.

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01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 3: Man, Penn State can't beat it.

2322
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 2: We were talking about this during the week the fitsy.

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01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 3: This is a huge game for James Franklin.

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01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 2: Now the Penn State's pretty locked into the playoffs, so

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01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 2: if they lose, they should.

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01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 3: Still be in the playoff.

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01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 2: However, James Franklin has not beaten Ohio State. He's like

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01:59:57,360 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 2: one to nine and he needs is record against ranked

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02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 2: opponents is not good. This is a big game for him,

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02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 2: So I you know it's at home. You know, I

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02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 2: know Aler's hurt, but I think he's gonna play we'll

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02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 2: see for sure, and then you know, there's really no excuse,

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02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 2: like you got to win.

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Speaker 4: I think that's what's really interesting about this game is

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02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:27,680
Speaker 4: it's the apoplectic boll To me, whichever fan base loses

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02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 4: is gonna be losing them. They're gonna go apoplectic. They're

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02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 4: gonna lose their minds.

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02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 3: Right.

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02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 4: It's either gonna be Ryan Day can't lose these types

2340
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 4: of games, or it's gonna be James Franklin can't win.

2341
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. Like it's it's one hundred percent.

2342
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 4: Either fan base is going to absolutely freak out. And

2343
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 4: I want to believe that. You know, one loss, obviously,

2344
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 4: Penn State's safe no matter what. I think, you're right.

2345
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 4: But I also think, man, this year, it's the first

2346
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:55,640
Speaker 4: time ever we've seen the College Football Playoff Committee have

2347
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 4: to rank twelve. I don't know what they're gonna value.

2348
02:00:58,400 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 4: It just gets a little hairrier, right, So this is

2349
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 4: your chance to have such a big win. And right now,

2350
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 4: if you look at most of the metrics, if you

2351
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:09,360
Speaker 4: look at most of the most of the advanced analytics

2352
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 4: that the committee looks at, Penn State is a absolute juggernaut.

2353
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 4: There is no doubt about it. But after this game,

2354
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 4: Washington stinks, Produced stinks, Minnesota, Maryland, man, like you just

2355
02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 4: go up and now they don't have another big opportunity

2356
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 4: for a landmark win on the calendar. So I don't know.

2357
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 4: I want to leave it to chance. Like the belief

2358
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 4: right now is, hey, okay, so what we lose this game,

2359
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 4: We're still gonna have the chance to play for the

2360
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:33,800
Speaker 4: Big Ten championship game. I don't know that we can

2361
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 4: say that either we just right now, it could go

2362
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 4: one of a bunch of different ways. So the only

2363
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:42,080
Speaker 4: sure way to make sure that you're in the college

2364
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 4: football playoff if your Penn State is to win this

2365
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 4: football game.

2366
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:52,720
Speaker 2: So Franklin's record against ranked opponents in his eleven seasons

2367
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 2: is thirteen and twenty six. That includes beating Illinois that

2368
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:02,920
Speaker 2: would in Illinois twenty five this year. Of the thirty

2369
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:05,760
Speaker 2: nine games that Penn State has faced the top twenty

2370
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 2: five oppondent on the Franklin seven have comedic ball game

2371
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 2: and those games, Franklin was three and four. I mean,

2372
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 2: it's pretty damning when you think about it. You know

2373
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 2: what they've done. You know, he needs, he really needs

2374
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 2: to win this game. And they have not performed well

2375
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:27,360
Speaker 2: against Ohio State and Michigan in big games.

2376
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 4: I wonder will the hasn't performed well against Ohio State Michigan,

2377
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:36,080
Speaker 4: which is such a true and real narrative. Does that

2378
02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:40,360
Speaker 4: change now as an important thing when we add the

2379
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 4: college football playoff in, like, will fan bases be more

2380
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:45,440
Speaker 4: forgiving of like, well, who cares we still went to

2381
02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:47,880
Speaker 4: the playoffs? I don't know the answer to that, because

2382
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 4: you're right. For years, the test has been can you

2383
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:54,520
Speaker 4: beat like? For hardball? For years, there's ay campt Ohio State, right,

2384
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 4: So that was just all anybody wanted to talk about.

2385
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 4: And that one game. You look at Ryan Day's winning

2386
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:02,880
Speaker 4: percentage again in Day's winning percentage is absolutely incredible. But

2387
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 4: Ohio State fans will freak out if he loses this game,

2388
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 4: where if he loses to Michigan like those games. I

2389
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 4: wonder if that that changes in a college football playoff

2390
02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 4: system that you know, hey, I lost to Ohio State

2391
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 4: but still made the playoff and won a playoff game.

2392
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,760
Speaker 4: Nobody will care. Like That's the interesting thing about what

2393
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:19,760
Speaker 4: all of this means.

2394
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:22,160
Speaker 2: For Yeah, I read you're right. Games moving forward, I

2395
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 2: think you're right. I think it will happen. I think that.

2396
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 2: I think you're a spot on there, I think, but

2397
02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:33,240
Speaker 2: it can't happen until you know, in time, due time, right, yeah,

2398
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 2: you know.

2399
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 4: But look at the and also look at the Ohio

2400
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 4: State side of this. If Ohio State loses this game,

2401
02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 4: they now have two losses and they'll be the two

2402
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 4: best losses you could possibly have, right they lose at

2403
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 4: Oregon and at Penn State. You know, Oregon was number

2404
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:51,520
Speaker 4: three at the time, number one, now Penn State number three.

2405
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:54,120
Speaker 4: Right now, you know they have Indiana left ahead of them,

2406
02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 4: but they will basically Ohio States plea will be you know, hey,

2407
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 4: we have the two best losses. Who is their signature

2408
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 4: win going to be against at that point? So like,

2409
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 4: if I'm Ohio State, I definitely feel like my back's

2410
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 4: up against the wall. Like I'm looking at it saying,

2411
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 4: I think there's a very real chance that Ohio State loses.

2412
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 4: If they lose this game, they missed the College Football

2413
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:16,800
Speaker 4: playoffs and they won't even get the benefit of a

2414
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 4: Big Ten championship game likely to be able to prove

2415
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 4: that they can get that landmark win at that point,

2416
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:25,000
Speaker 4: they need something else to happen. They need extra breaks

2417
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,000
Speaker 4: to happen their way to get into that game. So

2418
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:31,320
Speaker 4: this really becomes interesting, And I don't know what's better.

2419
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 4: Would you rather have two losses not be in the

2420
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 4: conference title game at all in that situation and say, hell, okay,

2421
02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 4: I got two losses, I'm not in the conference title game.

2422
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:40,960
Speaker 4: I don't get the chance. Or would you rather go

2423
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,200
Speaker 4: into the conference title game with one loss each your

2424
02:04:43,240 --> 02:04:45,440
Speaker 4: second loss there, and then hope the committee believes you

2425
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:49,200
Speaker 4: were competitive? This is this is why I guess really

2426
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 4: hairy going into these conference championship games about whether or

2427
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 4: not you'd rather be there or not.

2428
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point. It really is a great point.

2429
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 2: I think State has to be just has to be

2430
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:05,680
Speaker 2: the more desperate team. I mean, and you know, I

2431
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:07,120
Speaker 2: just think it's that's.

2432
02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:07,280
Speaker 3: Got to be.

2433
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 2: That's got to be obvious, right, Like, they got to

2434
02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 2: be the more desperate team.

2435
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no there is no doubt that they're I mean,

2436
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:18,320
Speaker 4: they should be the more desperate team. And because of that,

2437
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:21,080
Speaker 4: very like, because you have things like Notre Dame constantly

2438
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 4: lording over your shoulder, Like what happens, Like what is

2439
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:26,320
Speaker 4: the committee going to do with Notre Dame like, these

2440
02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 4: are things that didn't matter, and you make them not

2441
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 4: matter if you win this football game. Like if you

2442
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:33,560
Speaker 4: win this game, you're Ohio State. You win this game,

2443
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:35,800
Speaker 4: you say, Okay, you know what, we have one loss

2444
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,320
Speaker 4: and it's a it's a great loss, right, but we

2445
02:05:38,520 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 4: we got a huge landmark win. Now we feel really

2446
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:43,240
Speaker 4: good about where we are going forward. This is going

2447
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 4: to absolutely be a you know, never leave the committee

2448
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 4: a reason to say.

2449
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2450
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 4: But and fans are gonna lose their mind about that.

2451
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean they're gonna lose their mind in

2452
02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:57,960
Speaker 2: a big way. I know, I think you're I think

2453
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:01,080
Speaker 2: you're a spot on. And then the other game today

2454
02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 2: that will that you know, we'll talk about, which is

2455
02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 2: Oregon at the Big House.

2456
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 3: And they're a huge favorite.

2457
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:11,760
Speaker 2: I mean, fourteen and a half points, pretty wild, man.

2458
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's a big statement to how

2459
02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:19,520
Speaker 4: good Oregon is and Oregon wasn't early in the season. Like,

2460
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:23,240
Speaker 4: if we're being fair, Oregon early in the season never

2461
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 4: really showed the explosiveness we thought they'd have. I thought

2462
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel was risky with the ball, even though his

2463
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 4: completion percentage was great. They had some close wins. It

2464
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:34,520
Speaker 4: shouldn't be close wins, you know, And frankly, you know,

2465
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 4: looking back at that first half against Michigan State, that

2466
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 4: was closer than they wanted it to be. They survived

2467
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:42,400
Speaker 4: Boise State. Now it turns out that Ashton Genty has

2468
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 4: made Boise State a really tough out obviously for everybody.

2469
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,160
Speaker 4: But if your Oregon, you've really hit your stride.

2470
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:48,400
Speaker 3: Now.

2471
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:50,520
Speaker 4: I think that win over Ohio State sort of woke

2472
02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 4: everything up. Now you have the chance to just put

2473
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:55,120
Speaker 4: style points on for the next several weeks. It's just

2474
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:58,960
Speaker 4: they're going into the Big House ready to make a statement,

2475
02:06:59,480 --> 02:07:01,760
Speaker 4: and I think they will make that statement. The problem

2476
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 4: for Michigan is that punts turned into points for the

2477
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 4: other team. Right when you're giving the ball to Oregon's offense,

2478
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:09,840
Speaker 4: punts turned into points. And man, if you're letting them

2479
02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:11,200
Speaker 4: get points, you're gonna have to be able to keep

2480
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:13,000
Speaker 4: up with them, And how do you do that when

2481
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:16,320
Speaker 4: you can't run the football. Not only that, but Michigan's

2482
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 4: top corner is going to be out for this game,

2483
02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:22,480
Speaker 4: so you know they're gonna be attackable. So if I'm Oregan,

2484
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:24,840
Speaker 4: what I'm trying to do early I'm just trying to

2485
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:27,640
Speaker 4: bombit through them early and make sure that I'm putting

2486
02:07:27,680 --> 02:07:30,160
Speaker 4: Michigan on their heels from the outset, because if this

2487
02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 4: game turns fourteen nothing, if this game turns seventeen nothing,

2488
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:36,000
Speaker 4: then it's going to turn forty nothing like. That's just

2489
02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:38,960
Speaker 4: there's no viable way the way Michigan is built to

2490
02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 4: compete in this football game.

2491
02:07:40,760 --> 02:07:44,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I feel you. I feel you.

2492
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:47,880
Speaker 2: Hey, I got one other thing I want to ask

2493
02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:50,160
Speaker 2: you about what back to Penn State for a second.

2494
02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:55,320
Speaker 2: So my main Nikki hits me up and you listen

2495
02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:56,040
Speaker 2: to the conversation.

2496
02:07:56,160 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 3: He goes, listen. Franklin blows as a coach.

2497
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 2: He goes, I don't care that he's a great recruiter

2498
02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:07,879
Speaker 2: when he can't coach these recruits to big time wins,

2499
02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:12,200
Speaker 2: it's useless. It's a great point that he brings up, man,

2500
02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 2: which is you know you shooner or later you gotta

2501
02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:21,720
Speaker 2: win or else having accruing talent, what does it mean?

2502
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 4: That's why I used to always say that Jimbo Fisher

2503
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 4: wasn't hired to be the head football recruiter. He was

2504
02:08:28,520 --> 02:08:31,120
Speaker 4: hired to be the head football coach A and M

2505
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:35,080
Speaker 4: for years with Jimbo putting up huge recruiting glasses and

2506
02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:38,560
Speaker 4: it didn't result in wins. And so I think it's

2507
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 4: a really fair criticism because when you constantly stack the roster,

2508
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:46,920
Speaker 4: when you are constantly built to win, man, you better win,

2509
02:08:47,320 --> 02:08:50,240
Speaker 4: you know. And it also makes a huge difference in

2510
02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:54,480
Speaker 4: these games now for later because you know, we talked

2511
02:08:54,480 --> 02:08:58,520
Speaker 4: earlier about the college football playoffs schedule, remembering that there's

2512
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:00,480
Speaker 4: going to be a huge debate when they get into

2513
02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:03,840
Speaker 4: these the twelve team playoffs, because seeds one through four

2514
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:06,840
Speaker 4: have a buy and then you know five twelve, five

2515
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:10,320
Speaker 4: takes on twelve, six takes on eleven, you know, so

2516
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 4: on and so forth. Well, that means that eight to

2517
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 4: nine matchup, it's going to be huge. Having that eighth

2518
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:17,320
Speaker 4: seed versus the ninth seed is about a home field.

2519
02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:21,080
Speaker 4: Imagine how different the playoffs will look in December if,

2520
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:23,880
Speaker 4: for example, Penn State has to go to Alabama versus

2521
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:27,920
Speaker 4: Alabama going to Penn State. Right Like, So, I do

2522
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 4: think that if you are Penn State, you will not

2523
02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 4: only have to win this because there's pressure to win

2524
02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 4: these types of games, but also, man, I'm not sure

2525
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:40,040
Speaker 4: there are many schools better equipped to handle, like what

2526
02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:43,480
Speaker 4: the home field advantage could look like. Then a school

2527
02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 4: that's like Penn State that's in a cold weather environment

2528
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:50,800
Speaker 4: that's impossibly difficult to get to where there's no hotel

2529
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 4: rooms available. And I say that because you know, the

2530
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:56,320
Speaker 4: year we went with Game Day, for example, the closest

2531
02:09:56,480 --> 02:09:59,880
Speaker 4: hotel I could get was our half two hours away

2532
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:04,240
Speaker 4: from the stadium, and it's it's impossible on these big games.

2533
02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:06,720
Speaker 4: And so think about what a home field advantage will

2534
02:10:06,720 --> 02:10:07,600
Speaker 4: mean for Penn State.

2535
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:10,240
Speaker 3: Did you find out the hotels?

2536
02:10:11,240 --> 02:10:15,600
Speaker 4: They did big booking blocks, but we were new the

2537
02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 4: digital side of game Day, our our digital show that's

2538
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 4: countdown to Game Day was new to the family. We

2539
02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:26,600
Speaker 4: weren't included in those blocks. So yeah, well, and even

2540
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 4: the blocks were hard to get for Penn State because

2541
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:31,320
Speaker 4: there are so limited hotel rooms. And I don't even

2542
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 4: remember who Penn State was playing, that's how bad my

2543
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:35,800
Speaker 4: memory is. But it was such a big game that

2544
02:10:36,080 --> 02:10:37,320
Speaker 4: rooms were books.

2545
02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:39,160
Speaker 3: And now it's hard. It's one way.

2546
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 2: In one way, it's a great atmosphere, it's awesome, but yeah,

2547
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:46,120
Speaker 2: it's really difficult, Like you do have to stay like

2548
02:10:46,160 --> 02:10:51,640
Speaker 2: if you're it's not worth you know, it's tough.

2549
02:10:51,960 --> 02:10:54,600
Speaker 4: They actually recommend people at ESPN just make the drive

2550
02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:56,760
Speaker 4: instead of flying and trying to like just drive the

2551
02:10:56,760 --> 02:10:59,320
Speaker 4: four and a half hours, like it's it's easier than

2552
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:03,160
Speaker 4: anything else. But they think about that, like, think about again.

2553
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:05,880
Speaker 4: We'll use that imaginary scenario where you're an Alabama fan

2554
02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:07,840
Speaker 4: and you want to go to the game of Penn

2555
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 4: State to support your team. How how you getting there?

2556
02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:14,280
Speaker 4: You're not right, So, like, I just think for some

2557
02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:17,360
Speaker 4: of these schools, home field advantage in the playoffs will

2558
02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 4: be so epic. If you're Penn State, you're looking at

2559
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:22,240
Speaker 4: it and saying, man, this is our our opportunity to

2560
02:11:22,360 --> 02:11:27,640
Speaker 4: stamp our playoff spot. I think, barring a massive, unforseeable meltdown,

2561
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:30,680
Speaker 4: it would stamp our playoff spot. It would also put

2562
02:11:30,760 --> 02:11:32,360
Speaker 4: us in the front runner position to get a home

2563
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:34,760
Speaker 4: field playoff game. Like these are the things that are

2564
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,240
Speaker 4: gonna matter so much. That's that's why there's more on

2565
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 4: the line than just beating Ohio State today.

2566
02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I hear you, buddy. It's it's gonna be interesting.

2567
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of fun. So we talk

2568
02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:51,520
Speaker 2: a lot about the college game. We got over into

2569
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 2: the NFL and the NFL obviously, and our big conversation

2570
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:59,680
Speaker 2: we've kind of broken up by conference and with the

2571
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:03,200
Speaker 2: Rave getting Deontae Johnson, I just I love what they're

2572
02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:06,080
Speaker 2: how they look, and the Bills. I think the Bills

2573
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:10,560
Speaker 2: will destroy Miami coming up and then Kansas City right

2574
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:13,960
Speaker 2: undefeated the whole thing and getting DeAndre Hopkins. So we're

2575
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:15,879
Speaker 2: kind of going through it and we know the powers

2576
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 2: of the AFC. We were in the middle of the

2577
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 2: NFC and we never really finished it. And we went

2578
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:25,960
Speaker 2: through the West and obviously got San Francisco, your jewels

2579
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:31,800
Speaker 2: in the North, so you got Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota.

2580
02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:34,200
Speaker 2: To some extent, I still don't I don't think they're

2581
02:12:34,200 --> 02:12:35,600
Speaker 2: as good as those other two teams.

2582
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 3: You got San fran I think the Rams are dangerous.

2583
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:41,000
Speaker 3: And in the.

2584
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:46,040
Speaker 2: East is interesting because you had Washington, which keeps on winning.

2585
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:49,480
Speaker 2: But we all kind of feel certain that there is

2586
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 2: a that there were a year or two ahead of

2587
02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:54,720
Speaker 2: kind of what they are, you know, kind of winning

2588
02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:56,880
Speaker 2: off the last place schedule. They really shouldn't have won

2589
02:12:57,480 --> 02:13:00,200
Speaker 2: against the Bears. They've had a couple of games. They're

2590
02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:01,920
Speaker 2: a great story. So I don't want to kind of

2591
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 2: poop go it. But if you're talking about any real threat,

2592
02:13:06,360 --> 02:13:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think they're a real threat.

2593
02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:12,320
Speaker 4: No, I don't think. I think they're a better story

2594
02:13:12,320 --> 02:13:15,160
Speaker 4: than they are a threat. To your point, they have

2595
02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:17,480
Speaker 4: beaten up bad teams for people that haven't seen it.

2596
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:20,200
Speaker 4: Their wins are over the Giants, the Bengals who've turned

2597
02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:23,320
Speaker 4: out to be terrible, the Cardinals that was a big

2598
02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:25,560
Speaker 4: win for him, but also then the Browns, who are terrible,

2599
02:13:25,840 --> 02:13:29,080
Speaker 4: the Panther is terrible, and then they miraculous win over

2600
02:13:29,120 --> 02:13:31,120
Speaker 4: the Bears. The thing that will help them is that

2601
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:33,640
Speaker 4: they have the Giants again. Then they go through a

2602
02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:37,200
Speaker 4: tough stretch, but then they have the Titans and the Saints,

2603
02:13:37,880 --> 02:13:40,680
Speaker 4: so they have three. Even if they lose all of

2604
02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:42,240
Speaker 4: the rest of the games to good teams, they're going

2605
02:13:42,280 --> 02:13:45,600
Speaker 4: to get to nine wins. So the weird part about

2606
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:47,800
Speaker 4: the Commanders is all they have to do is sneak

2607
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,760
Speaker 4: one out against the Steelers, the Eagles, the Cowboys basically,

2608
02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:53,640
Speaker 4: and the Falcons. They sneak one win out of all

2609
02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:55,080
Speaker 4: of that, and they're going to get to ten wins.

2610
02:13:55,400 --> 02:13:59,160
Speaker 4: So do I believe they're great football? Do I believe

2611
02:13:59,160 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 4: they're in the same category. Where is the other teams

2612
02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:03,440
Speaker 4: we've talked about. No, I do believe that they're pretty

2613
02:14:03,480 --> 02:14:06,080
Speaker 4: deserving of a wildcard spot. I just have a hard

2614
02:14:06,120 --> 02:14:08,480
Speaker 4: time not getting them to ten wins at this point,

2615
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:11,920
Speaker 4: which ten wins is going to be a wildly respectable number.

2616
02:14:12,560 --> 02:14:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm with you. So I guess the question

2617
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:16,920
Speaker 2: is are they as good as the Eagles? And are

2618
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:20,680
Speaker 2: the Eagles a threat? A legitimate threat? They've won three

2619
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:26,040
Speaker 2: in a row, They've looked much better. They beat the

2620
02:14:26,080 --> 02:14:28,600
Speaker 2: Giants twenty eight to three to the Giants, but still

2621
02:14:28,640 --> 02:14:31,880
Speaker 2: they roll them and then it makes it look that

2622
02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 2: much better by going into Cincinnati and they probably Hurts

2623
02:14:36,520 --> 02:14:39,600
Speaker 2: probably had one of his best games of this season

2624
02:14:39,840 --> 02:14:45,640
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. So the Eagles with Barkley, AJ Brown, Devonte Smith,

2625
02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:49,120
Speaker 2: they get Jacksonville. I don't see them losing that game.

2626
02:14:49,680 --> 02:14:52,400
Speaker 2: So now all of a sudden, you're six and two

2627
02:14:53,360 --> 02:14:55,360
Speaker 2: and you're looking pretty formidable.

2628
02:14:56,360 --> 02:14:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the funny thing is, I'll be fair their

2629
02:14:58,840 --> 02:15:01,720
Speaker 4: last three wins, Brown, Giants, Bengals. I just listed those

2630
02:15:01,720 --> 02:15:04,880
Speaker 4: as bad teams that the Commanders have beaten. That's so

2631
02:15:04,920 --> 02:15:06,320
Speaker 4: now we have to go back to, well, what have

2632
02:15:06,400 --> 02:15:09,200
Speaker 4: we seen and what do we expect, right, So you're

2633
02:15:09,280 --> 02:15:11,360
Speaker 4: right when this offense is healthy, we knew that this

2634
02:15:11,440 --> 02:15:14,040
Speaker 4: offense needed to get healthy. When they get healthy, this

2635
02:15:14,160 --> 02:15:16,320
Speaker 4: is exactly what we thought we'd see, right, And so

2636
02:15:17,160 --> 02:15:19,080
Speaker 4: you're a thousand percent right that. Then you look at

2637
02:15:19,160 --> 02:15:22,800
Speaker 4: upcoming games against teams like the Jags. That's certainly when

2638
02:15:23,080 --> 02:15:26,040
Speaker 4: they also have the Panthers ahead of them and the

2639
02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:27,720
Speaker 4: Giants again, so they've.

2640
02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:31,880
Speaker 3: Got you know, the Cowboys are wretchet.

2641
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:35,040
Speaker 4: Right, So it's easy. I honestly think it's pretty easy

2642
02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:37,360
Speaker 4: to get Philly to ten wins too. So now it

2643
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:39,960
Speaker 4: really comes down to the Phillies. Commanders have two games

2644
02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:42,080
Speaker 4: left against each other. They haven't played each other yet,

2645
02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:46,520
Speaker 4: so I believe Philadelphia is a better football team on

2646
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 4: paper than the Commanders are. I also believe this year

2647
02:15:50,840 --> 02:15:53,560
Speaker 4: that Jayden Daniels seems to be kissed by the football gods.

2648
02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:55,839
Speaker 4: There are some throes hees gotten away with that are beautiful.

2649
02:15:55,840 --> 02:15:59,400
Speaker 4: And also he's just he's just electric. He's taken over

2650
02:15:59,440 --> 02:16:02,040
Speaker 4: the league. So if I got to trust one of

2651
02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:04,400
Speaker 4: these two quarterbacks to get a win, I'll take the

2652
02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:07,000
Speaker 4: one that's kissed by the football gods. But if I

2653
02:16:07,040 --> 02:16:09,360
Speaker 4: trust one of these offenses to be better. I trust

2654
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:12,600
Speaker 4: the Eagles, you know, so I genuinely think it's it's

2655
02:16:12,600 --> 02:16:15,280
Speaker 4: pretty interesting. I believe the Eagles are a better football team.

2656
02:16:15,560 --> 02:16:17,800
Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent sure Washington doesn't get to

2657
02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:19,520
Speaker 4: another to an extra win on them, though.

2658
02:16:20,400 --> 02:16:23,960
Speaker 2: Well it'll be the next two weeks. We'll tell you

2659
02:16:24,040 --> 02:16:29,000
Speaker 2: a lot about the Eagles because you got and it's

2660
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:33,280
Speaker 2: interesting because you have Jacksonville this week, so that should

2661
02:16:33,320 --> 02:16:33,680
Speaker 2: be a win.

2662
02:16:33,760 --> 02:16:35,200
Speaker 3: But then you got to go to Dallas.

2663
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:39,240
Speaker 2: Now Dallas will be wounded, and you get them in

2664
02:16:39,280 --> 02:16:42,920
Speaker 2: an afternoon, like this is it kind of do or

2665
02:16:43,040 --> 02:16:46,920
Speaker 2: die season against a rival. And then you come home

2666
02:16:46,959 --> 02:16:50,720
Speaker 2: on a short week and play Washington on a Thursday night.

2667
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:55,040
Speaker 2: So you got two division games back to back, and

2668
02:16:55,120 --> 02:16:57,160
Speaker 2: then and then you have a couple.

2669
02:16:56,879 --> 02:16:59,720
Speaker 4: By the way, that should never be allowed back to

2670
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:04,039
Speaker 4: back division games on a Thursday night, Like division games

2671
02:17:04,120 --> 02:17:07,200
Speaker 4: mean too much. I just it bothers me that you

2672
02:17:07,240 --> 02:17:09,920
Speaker 4: put the Cowboys and then three days later you're taking

2673
02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:13,520
Speaker 4: on the Commanders. That just feels like such a flux,

2674
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:17,800
Speaker 4: such a change in the way the entire East can

2675
02:17:17,840 --> 02:17:21,400
Speaker 4: be decided. You know, that's just for me. I just

2676
02:17:21,560 --> 02:17:24,440
Speaker 4: don't understand. You know, at least the Commanders have the

2677
02:17:24,440 --> 02:17:27,240
Speaker 4: Steelers and then you know, three days later get the Eagles,

2678
02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:30,240
Speaker 4: So if they lose that one of those two games,

2679
02:17:30,480 --> 02:17:32,440
Speaker 4: it doesn't have to have that same consequence. You put

2680
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:35,320
Speaker 4: division games in the same week on a Monday or

2681
02:17:35,360 --> 02:17:37,760
Speaker 4: on a Sunday and a Thursday. That just feels gross

2682
02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:38,000
Speaker 4: to me.

2683
02:17:38,920 --> 02:17:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I have think gets tough tough spot.

2684
02:17:41,520 --> 02:17:43,720
Speaker 4: I mean the Eagles, like the Commanders get the Eagles

2685
02:17:43,959 --> 02:17:45,760
Speaker 4: and then they get ten days off before they have

2686
02:17:45,800 --> 02:17:48,560
Speaker 4: to take take on the Cowboys. That's just a much different,

2687
02:17:48,959 --> 02:17:51,880
Speaker 4: much different. You know, when you've got two teams that

2688
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:54,720
Speaker 4: could be vying for first place in the division, and

2689
02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:57,200
Speaker 4: you've got a common opponent in the division, one of

2690
02:17:57,240 --> 02:17:59,120
Speaker 4: them is going to be a normal week and then

2691
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:01,440
Speaker 4: a short week, and the other one's a you know,

2692
02:18:02,120 --> 02:18:04,240
Speaker 4: we get that extra mini bid to prep for it.

2693
02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:05,640
Speaker 4: That's just a huge advantage.

2694
02:18:05,959 --> 02:18:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you're right.

2695
02:18:08,680 --> 02:18:11,680
Speaker 2: Uh, let's say quick too will come back, the brain

2696
02:18:11,840 --> 02:18:15,880
Speaker 2: will join us, We'll take a look at the weekend

2697
02:18:15,959 --> 02:18:19,000
Speaker 2: from a betting standpoint. That's coming up next with the

2698
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:23,840
Speaker 2: Fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Garganta right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2699
02:18:24,480 --> 02:18:27,360
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Speaker 2: Cool Welcome back, fellas hanging out from Thetirack dot com studios.

2704
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:50,360
Speaker 2: I was just giving Brie a little pasta. How to

2705
02:18:50,360 --> 02:18:56,800
Speaker 2: make your own pasta, right, Bri, oh me, really easy.

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Speaker 2: It takes you twenty minutes. Takes you twenty minutes.

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Speaker 4: Simple is the recipe for sharing with the family.

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Speaker 2: Was like, I'll tell you what. After we get done

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Speaker 2: with the brain, I'll give it to you. It's literally,

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Speaker 2: it's it'll take him twenty minutes. I do what every

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Speaker 2: I do it twice a week before my kids.

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Speaker 3: It's easy.

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Speaker 2: By the way, don't forget coming up right after us.

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Speaker 2: Countdown to Kickoff presented by Bett MGN Brian no Rich Hornberger,

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02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:30,600
Speaker 2: betting analyst Jared Smith got you covered three hours before

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Speaker 2: kickoff every Saturday morning, right after US at nine Eastern

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Speaker 2: MGM right here on Fox Sports Radio on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a trending and then we got my man

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Speaker 2: to brain.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we got college football on the slate today, first

2722
02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:51,560
Speaker 7: games kicking off a little over six hours from now.

2723
02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:54,080
Speaker 7: We did have three games a part of the Friday

2724
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Speaker 7: Night Lights Action. Number fifteen Boise State a dominating performance

2725
02:19:58,360 --> 02:20:02,320
Speaker 7: against San Diego State, winning at fifty six to twenty four.

2726
02:20:02,440 --> 02:20:05,680
Speaker 7: The Broncos, now seventy one on the season, in very

2727
02:20:05,720 --> 02:20:08,200
Speaker 7: well can make a claim as the top team to

2728
02:20:08,240 --> 02:20:11,680
Speaker 7: claim the Group of five spot in the College Football Playoff.

2729
02:20:12,160 --> 02:20:15,720
Speaker 7: Yukon now Bowl eligible as they beat Georgia State thirty

2730
02:20:15,720 --> 02:20:18,640
Speaker 7: four to twenty seven. The Huskies now six and three

2731
02:20:19,480 --> 02:20:23,320
Speaker 7: on the season, and South Florida blowout win against Florida

2732
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:26,240
Speaker 7: Atlantic forty four to twenty one. The bowls now back

2733
02:20:26,320 --> 02:20:29,480
Speaker 7: up to five hundred and in the new kickoff win

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02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:32,640
Speaker 7: Now we got games involving ranked teams. A big matchup

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Speaker 7: of the day in the big New Kickoff on Fox,

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02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:39,000
Speaker 7: it's number three Penn State hosting number four Ohio State

2737
02:20:39,040 --> 02:20:41,920
Speaker 7: out in Happy Valley. Number five Miami is gonna put

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Speaker 7: their re perfect record on the line at home against Duke.

2739
02:20:45,160 --> 02:20:47,280
Speaker 7: We've also got number nineteen Ole Miss on the road

2740
02:20:47,320 --> 02:20:50,560
Speaker 7: at Arkansas. Number twenty one Army will host Air Force

2741
02:20:50,600 --> 02:20:53,120
Speaker 7: as the Black Knights look to stay undefeated in this

2742
02:20:53,240 --> 02:20:57,080
Speaker 7: big Surface Academy rivalry game, and number twenty four Illinois

2743
02:20:57,480 --> 02:21:00,400
Speaker 7: rounds out the ranked teams playing in that noon window,

2744
02:21:00,520 --> 02:21:03,920
Speaker 7: as they will be at home to face Minnesota.

2745
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:05,040
Speaker 6: Back on to the fallace.

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02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:10,560
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, we appreciated fellas hanging. Let's welcome in

2747
02:21:10,640 --> 02:21:13,480
Speaker 2: the brain to take a look at the weekend's card

2748
02:21:13,480 --> 02:21:15,160
Speaker 2: from a betting stands point.

2749
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Speaker 3: Good morning, Brain.

2750
02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:19,039
Speaker 8: Good morning with me. How are you today?

2751
02:21:19,440 --> 02:21:23,720
Speaker 2: Good to always hear your voice, my main man. Uh Brain,

2752
02:21:23,879 --> 02:21:26,720
Speaker 2: let's go through the college We we've been talking about

2753
02:21:26,760 --> 02:21:30,240
Speaker 2: the big new kickoff on Fox, and we cannot wait

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Speaker 2: for Penn State Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: The line is down to three. Where you seeing value?

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Speaker 8: Okay, Anthony, I get that Penn State on this game.

2757
02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:46,200
Speaker 8: I think it's again. I know we briefly touched on

2758
02:21:46,280 --> 02:21:51,320
Speaker 8: it earlier. Like Ohio State's offensive line to me is

2759
02:21:51,879 --> 02:21:56,480
Speaker 8: weak obviously. The big question or a true hours health

2760
02:21:56,760 --> 02:21:59,760
Speaker 8: like what you know is he going to play? How

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02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:04,199
Speaker 8: if he will he be if he does, but even

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Speaker 8: if he doesn't play and he's not fully healthy, I

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Speaker 8: still again, I don't think this Ohio State team is

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02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:17,840
Speaker 8: that good. I just really really don't. I think this

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Speaker 8: is a game where Penn State can match up everywhere,

2766
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Speaker 8: and I think them getting points at home merricks of

2767
02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:31,520
Speaker 8: that year, I really really do. I just I am

2768
02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:33,920
Speaker 8: not a huge fan of this Ohio State team. They're not,

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Speaker 8: in my opinion, as good as I thought they would

2770
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:40,120
Speaker 8: be coming into the year. And again, I think this

2771
02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:42,760
Speaker 8: line should be lower than three. Right now it's three.

2772
02:22:42,879 --> 02:22:46,240
Speaker 8: You know, it was even three and a half. But

2773
02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:49,600
Speaker 8: I like Penn State. I think tenn State finally with Franklin,

2774
02:22:49,680 --> 02:22:51,520
Speaker 8: wins one of these big ones at home against the

2775
02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:52,360
Speaker 8: higher ranked team.

2776
02:22:53,160 --> 02:22:56,199
Speaker 4: Bring you say, finally with Franklin, when they're setting lines

2777
02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:58,920
Speaker 4: and they're getting everything set. From a gambling perspective, how

2778
02:22:58,959 --> 02:23:00,920
Speaker 4: much do they factor in the things that we talk

2779
02:23:00,959 --> 02:23:03,600
Speaker 4: about all the time, like James Franklin's lack of success

2780
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:05,520
Speaker 4: against ranked teams.

2781
02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:07,960
Speaker 8: I don't think at all the Stamps or fifty. I

2782
02:23:07,959 --> 02:23:11,080
Speaker 8: don't think that they're looking at it, not even not

2783
02:23:11,160 --> 02:23:13,120
Speaker 8: even a little bit. That's not going in a factor

2784
02:23:13,120 --> 02:23:16,240
Speaker 8: and it's just power rating the point of view, what's

2785
02:23:16,560 --> 02:23:20,199
Speaker 8: what not? How has James Franklin done in the past

2786
02:23:20,760 --> 02:23:24,200
Speaker 8: against certain teams? Now, I mean I now from a

2787
02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:26,720
Speaker 8: betting perspective, Do you want to factor those things in?

2788
02:23:27,360 --> 02:23:30,480
Speaker 8: That's very ballent if you're handicapping it. But for people

2789
02:23:30,480 --> 02:23:32,200
Speaker 8: who are setting the lines, no, I don't think that

2790
02:23:32,320 --> 02:23:34,520
Speaker 8: factor is an even a quarter of a point.

2791
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:41,880
Speaker 2: Again, the quarterback is the spot with Aler versus uh bouh.

2792
02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:45,440
Speaker 2: You know I I again, we think Aler is going

2793
02:23:45,520 --> 02:23:48,920
Speaker 2: to play. But you know, correct, you know, we'll we'll

2794
02:23:48,920 --> 02:23:50,560
Speaker 2: find out where where does that come in to play

2795
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:55,480
Speaker 2: in your mind? And where does Ohio State Oregon play

2796
02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:58,760
Speaker 2: on your mind when it comes to you know, pet

2797
02:23:58,760 --> 02:24:01,520
Speaker 2: said hasn't played anybody like Oregon and Ohio State has.

2798
02:24:01,640 --> 02:24:02,800
Speaker 3: Where does that factor in?

2799
02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:06,720
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, well listen and that's me. You're right, they

2800
02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:10,440
Speaker 8: have it, you know. But but again, I personally think

2801
02:24:11,480 --> 02:24:14,520
Speaker 8: that's funny those lines were I think going back, I

2802
02:24:14,560 --> 02:24:17,200
Speaker 8: think Ohio State with a leak two and a half

2803
02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:20,760
Speaker 8: at Oregon and now they're you know, they're three to

2804
02:24:20,760 --> 02:24:24,680
Speaker 8: three and a half at Penn State. But again again

2805
02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:28,640
Speaker 8: I think Penn State can absolutely you know, hang with Oregon.

2806
02:24:28,680 --> 02:24:33,720
Speaker 8: I think those teams are comparable quite frankly so to me, again,

2807
02:24:33,760 --> 02:24:35,080
Speaker 8: I think I don't think Penn State is going to

2808
02:24:35,160 --> 02:24:37,360
Speaker 8: come in and like route this team, don't. I think

2809
02:24:37,360 --> 02:24:39,200
Speaker 8: it's going to be a close game. But again I

2810
02:24:39,240 --> 02:24:41,400
Speaker 8: always talk about in closed games, and I can get

2811
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:45,280
Speaker 8: three points or more in a game that I expectfully

2812
02:24:45,320 --> 02:24:47,640
Speaker 8: be a one score game. I think that's a big

2813
02:24:47,680 --> 02:24:50,520
Speaker 8: advantage because I think if Ohio State wins, you know,

2814
02:24:50,560 --> 02:24:52,720
Speaker 8: I think it's a very very good chance it's going

2815
02:24:52,760 --> 02:24:55,400
Speaker 8: to be by one score. If that's one score game,

2816
02:24:55,480 --> 02:24:57,680
Speaker 8: getting three points is obviously a huge advantage.

2817
02:24:58,400 --> 02:25:00,640
Speaker 4: The other game we've talked a lot about so far

2818
02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:04,160
Speaker 4: this morning is Oregon at Michigan. Obviously at the big House.

2819
02:25:04,440 --> 02:25:07,680
Speaker 4: I struggle to find a way the Michigan can keep

2820
02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:09,800
Speaker 4: it competitive because they can't throw the football. What am

2821
02:25:09,800 --> 02:25:10,480
Speaker 4: I missing here?

2822
02:25:11,720 --> 02:25:16,200
Speaker 8: Well, well, here's what you're missing in my opinion. You

2823
02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:18,800
Speaker 8: say they can't throw the football. Now they they look

2824
02:25:19,480 --> 02:25:23,400
Speaker 8: they have not thrown the football. Well, but since they

2825
02:25:23,440 --> 02:25:28,240
Speaker 8: made the quarterback switch, they have been significantly better. And

2826
02:25:28,280 --> 02:25:30,840
Speaker 8: again I don't want to overrate what they've been, but

2827
02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:34,840
Speaker 8: Warren's at least been fairly competent. Like if you look

2828
02:25:34,840 --> 02:25:42,200
Speaker 8: at his stats against sorry if you if you if

2829
02:25:42,240 --> 02:25:45,240
Speaker 8: you look at this, he at least completed some passes,

2830
02:25:46,440 --> 02:25:50,280
Speaker 8: which is like Orgy wasn't able to still anything, and

2831
02:25:50,400 --> 02:25:53,400
Speaker 8: to me, I just think at least date they have

2832
02:25:53,520 --> 02:25:58,400
Speaker 8: a snowball chance, so to speak, of doing something offensively,

2833
02:25:58,520 --> 02:26:02,760
Speaker 8: which you know they weren't able to do before. I mean, look,

2834
02:26:02,840 --> 02:26:09,240
Speaker 8: Partell had a couple moments, but well, I fully expect

2835
02:26:09,360 --> 02:26:11,760
Speaker 8: this Oregon team to win the game. I really do.

2836
02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:17,120
Speaker 8: I think at least Michigan has a chance to not

2837
02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:19,760
Speaker 8: be completely impotent. Again, I did not bet this game.

2838
02:26:20,040 --> 02:26:21,520
Speaker 8: I did not bet this game. I thought the flying

2839
02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:25,320
Speaker 8: should come in around thirteen. It's you know, hovering between

2840
02:26:25,360 --> 02:26:28,520
Speaker 8: fourteen fourteen and a half. Not a game I personally bet.

2841
02:26:28,560 --> 02:26:31,840
Speaker 8: But I do think listen at the Big House. I

2842
02:26:31,879 --> 02:26:35,000
Speaker 8: think Michigan's defense can at least play a respectable game here.

2843
02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:38,400
Speaker 8: I do. And I don't think Oregon's like stamp me before.

2844
02:26:38,400 --> 02:26:41,000
Speaker 8: I don't think Oregon's that great. I don't think there's

2845
02:26:41,080 --> 02:26:43,320
Speaker 8: one team here in college football to see that's like

2846
02:26:44,320 --> 02:26:47,280
Speaker 8: LSU Joe Burrow team, you know, one of the Alabama

2847
02:26:47,800 --> 02:26:51,160
Speaker 8: Bryce Young Matt Jones teams and at Georgia teams the

2848
02:26:51,240 --> 02:26:53,920
Speaker 8: last few years with Stepsan Bennett. I don't think any

2849
02:26:53,959 --> 02:26:57,160
Speaker 8: of these teams in college football are that dominant, where

2850
02:26:57,400 --> 02:26:59,360
Speaker 8: a team like Michigan, who obviously is not even a

2851
02:26:59,360 --> 02:27:01,720
Speaker 8: top twenty team. But I don't think they're just going

2852
02:27:01,800 --> 02:27:04,080
Speaker 8: to come in here and beat them like forty two

2853
02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:07,240
Speaker 8: to ten. I really don't. I think Michigan can keep

2854
02:27:07,280 --> 02:27:10,440
Speaker 8: this game respectable, and I think it'll probably be between

2855
02:27:10,440 --> 02:27:13,560
Speaker 8: a ten and you know, fourteen point game. I mean,

2856
02:27:13,640 --> 02:27:14,600
Speaker 8: Michigan is going to be.

2857
02:27:15,400 --> 02:27:17,200
Speaker 2: The key is going to be for them not to

2858
02:27:17,280 --> 02:27:22,040
Speaker 2: fall beyond early, because yeah, they fall beyond early, then

2859
02:27:22,760 --> 02:27:25,480
Speaker 2: that's when the game script works against them, and that's

2860
02:27:25,480 --> 02:27:28,920
Speaker 2: when it works against your theory, right, Yeah, of.

2861
02:27:28,840 --> 02:27:31,880
Speaker 8: Course, yeah, of course you need you need to keep

2862
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:35,640
Speaker 8: this game somewhat close. And again again I would personally

2863
02:27:35,680 --> 02:27:38,120
Speaker 8: probably again if you like the Michigan thought, I lean

2864
02:27:38,240 --> 02:27:40,280
Speaker 8: Michigan more in the first half, you'll be able to

2865
02:27:40,280 --> 02:27:42,359
Speaker 8: get seven and a half eight in the first half,

2866
02:27:42,879 --> 02:27:45,720
Speaker 8: where that probably probably means after lose a game by

2867
02:27:45,720 --> 02:27:48,120
Speaker 8: double digits in the first half, I'd rather probably take

2868
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:50,080
Speaker 8: the first half of maybe they can hang within one

2869
02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:52,840
Speaker 8: score versus the longer the game goes with one team

2870
02:27:52,879 --> 02:27:55,040
Speaker 8: that can obviously move the ball with Gabriel, the other

2871
02:27:55,040 --> 02:27:56,920
Speaker 8: team that thoughtably going to struggle a lot more than

2872
02:27:56,920 --> 02:28:00,160
Speaker 8: move the ball with Michigan, I would probably lean more

2873
02:28:00,200 --> 02:28:03,280
Speaker 8: towards Michigan in the first half where I only have

2874
02:28:03,400 --> 02:28:05,760
Speaker 8: to I don't have to. For example, the game doesn't

2875
02:28:05,800 --> 02:28:10,000
Speaker 8: have to break for thirty minutes versus sixty.

2876
02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean all of that makes total sense. What

2877
02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:13,840
Speaker 4: other games do you actually like out there?

2878
02:28:13,879 --> 02:28:13,959
Speaker 8: Like?

2879
02:28:13,959 --> 02:28:16,520
Speaker 4: What are you looking at saying there's real movement opportunity?

2880
02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:19,880
Speaker 8: Yeah? Well, listen one game I like. I like the

2881
02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:25,720
Speaker 8: textas A and M game against Arkansas. I'm sorry, text

2882
02:28:25,720 --> 02:28:28,920
Speaker 8: A and M against South Carolina. Look, this is a

2883
02:28:28,959 --> 02:28:30,840
Speaker 8: game we can get three three and a half points

2884
02:28:30,879 --> 02:28:34,680
Speaker 8: with South Carolina. Guys, I think this line's up bad line.

2885
02:28:34,840 --> 02:28:38,000
Speaker 8: I do multiple reasons. I like South Carolina here. First

2886
02:28:38,040 --> 02:28:40,760
Speaker 8: of all, they're coming in off of by okay A

2887
02:28:40,800 --> 02:28:43,600
Speaker 8: and M off that big, big, big win last week

2888
02:28:43,760 --> 02:28:47,720
Speaker 8: against LSU. But that win, in my opinion, was I

2889
02:28:47,720 --> 02:28:50,280
Speaker 8: don't want to call it fake, but certently was not.

2890
02:28:50,360 --> 02:28:53,480
Speaker 8: What the final score was. I think they won by seventeen,

2891
02:28:53,560 --> 02:28:55,240
Speaker 8: but that was a game they were losing most of

2892
02:28:55,240 --> 02:28:59,240
Speaker 8: the game out gaming yardage wise, l Shuman to ton

2893
02:28:59,280 --> 02:29:03,480
Speaker 8: of field goals. I actually thought that LSU is every

2894
02:29:03,520 --> 02:29:07,040
Speaker 8: bit uh is good in that game. South Carolina is

2895
02:29:07,080 --> 02:29:10,240
Speaker 8: the team to me is actually I think very underrated. Guys.

2896
02:29:11,120 --> 02:29:13,240
Speaker 8: Two of their losses they fled out, should have won.

2897
02:29:13,320 --> 02:29:15,600
Speaker 8: They beat LSU, they did everything except when the game

2898
02:29:15,600 --> 02:29:18,120
Speaker 8: on the final scoreboard, and they had Alabama beat as well.

2899
02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:19,879
Speaker 8: I think it's a good team. You want to give me,

2900
02:29:20,360 --> 02:29:21,640
Speaker 8: you can get up to three and a half in

2901
02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:24,480
Speaker 8: some spots track now at home, I think they're just

2902
02:29:24,480 --> 02:29:25,800
Speaker 8: as good as A and M. I don't love A

2903
02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:28,440
Speaker 8: and M. I think they're well coached, but I don't

2904
02:29:28,480 --> 02:29:31,800
Speaker 8: I still don't trust A and M's quarterback play. Give

2905
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:33,560
Speaker 8: me South Carolina. I think they're gonna win the game

2906
02:29:33,560 --> 02:29:35,040
Speaker 8: out right.

2907
02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:36,040
Speaker 3: What about NFL?

2908
02:29:36,440 --> 02:29:38,000
Speaker 2: We only got it like two minutes, So I'm just

2909
02:29:38,040 --> 02:29:39,840
Speaker 2: curious kind of where you're.

2910
02:29:39,720 --> 02:29:45,400
Speaker 8: Looking at the Arizona Cardinals at home, guys, I like

2911
02:29:45,440 --> 02:29:48,640
Speaker 8: against the Bears, who could lay one point. I really

2912
02:29:48,680 --> 02:29:50,440
Speaker 8: thought this line would be a little bit higher than

2913
02:29:50,480 --> 02:29:53,480
Speaker 8: it is. When you look at the strength of schedule.

2914
02:29:53,640 --> 02:29:55,920
Speaker 8: Arizona's played I think the hardest strength of schedule the

2915
02:29:56,040 --> 02:29:59,760
Speaker 8: NFL this year, but there is nowhere close. I think

2916
02:29:59,800 --> 02:30:02,840
Speaker 8: our Zona. You know, I trust their offense a lot

2917
02:30:02,920 --> 02:30:07,160
Speaker 8: more than Cale Williams for me is very erratic and

2918
02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:10,320
Speaker 8: it's hard to me to trust Cale Williams in this

2919
02:30:10,440 --> 02:30:14,080
Speaker 8: spot of this game. I like Arizona to win this game.

2920
02:30:14,120 --> 02:30:18,920
Speaker 8: I think the line was too was too short. It's

2921
02:30:18,920 --> 02:30:20,640
Speaker 8: interesting and the one game that did get away with

2922
02:30:20,720 --> 02:30:22,600
Speaker 8: a little bit was I like to land at top

2923
02:30:22,600 --> 02:30:24,119
Speaker 8: now hee at the three and a half. That would

2924
02:30:24,120 --> 02:30:28,240
Speaker 8: now be a path for me. I suppose Buffalo against Miami. Guys,

2925
02:30:29,400 --> 02:30:33,000
Speaker 8: Buffalo is a team I punion more and more than

2926
02:30:33,040 --> 02:30:35,600
Speaker 8: any team in the NFL this year. Coming into the year,

2927
02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:39,199
Speaker 8: I was big on their under you know, I changed

2928
02:30:39,200 --> 02:30:40,720
Speaker 8: my mind. But the way the dad has switched, the

2929
02:30:40,760 --> 02:30:43,240
Speaker 8: way they look, this is a really solid team. Do

2930
02:30:43,400 --> 02:30:46,280
Speaker 8: not trust Miami at all. I don't like I just

2931
02:30:46,440 --> 02:30:49,600
Speaker 8: I know that too is back, but laying lesson that's

2932
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:52,200
Speaker 8: home with the team I think is in premiere. I

2933
02:30:52,240 --> 02:30:55,600
Speaker 8: do like the Buffalo Bills at home, and I think

2934
02:30:55,640 --> 02:30:58,720
Speaker 8: the Chargers game against the Browns. I do like over

2935
02:30:58,800 --> 02:31:04,720
Speaker 8: forty two points the Chargers, to me, I should have

2936
02:31:04,840 --> 02:31:08,279
Speaker 8: a little bit more success offensively. I don't think Cleveland's

2937
02:31:08,360 --> 02:31:12,560
Speaker 8: great defensively, and with Jameis Winston, this is a team

2938
02:31:12,600 --> 02:31:15,920
Speaker 8: that you know now is not impotent offensively Cleveland, they

2939
02:31:16,320 --> 02:31:18,680
Speaker 8: can Winston. What I like about taking overs in these games.

2940
02:31:18,840 --> 02:31:20,480
Speaker 8: He can help both teams, if you know what I mean.

2941
02:31:20,680 --> 02:31:23,240
Speaker 8: He could throw interceptions. He led the league interceptions basically

2942
02:31:23,240 --> 02:31:25,480
Speaker 8: every year he's played. I think forty two is a

2943
02:31:25,520 --> 02:31:26,160
Speaker 8: little bit too low.

2944
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, real quick. I like I like.

2945
02:31:33,040 --> 02:31:36,039
Speaker 2: The Vikings just off the top of my head, just

2946
02:31:36,200 --> 02:31:38,280
Speaker 2: kind of looking at things, because we talked about it earlier.

2947
02:31:38,400 --> 02:31:43,640
Speaker 2: I like Minnesota. I like I you know, I don't

2948
02:31:43,680 --> 02:31:47,520
Speaker 2: see how the Broncos. Yeah, I don't believe in their offense,

2949
02:31:47,760 --> 02:31:50,360
Speaker 2: and I think the Baltimore offense will just shred them.

2950
02:31:50,920 --> 02:31:52,480
Speaker 2: I think he's a day for favorites.

2951
02:31:53,160 --> 02:31:55,040
Speaker 8: You know, there's I agree with you in that, And

2952
02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:58,680
Speaker 8: it's interesting, like that's a game where in some ways, right,

2953
02:31:58,760 --> 02:32:00,520
Speaker 8: in some ways, it seems like a little bit like

2954
02:32:00,560 --> 02:32:04,040
Speaker 8: the Michigan Oregons. Yeah, right, you know, And I mean

2955
02:32:04,080 --> 02:32:06,720
Speaker 8: obviously today at the big ginning into Carolina last week.

2956
02:32:06,720 --> 02:32:09,320
Speaker 8: But Anthony, as she said, I don't trust their offense

2957
02:32:09,360 --> 02:32:11,080
Speaker 8: at all. And we talk about matchups. Anthony, you're a

2958
02:32:11,120 --> 02:32:14,240
Speaker 8: big matchup guy. I think that's the wrong matchup for Denver.

2959
02:32:14,360 --> 02:32:16,240
Speaker 8: I agree with you because I think it's gonna be

2960
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:19,440
Speaker 8: hard for that team to score. And I know as

2961
02:32:19,440 --> 02:32:22,160
Speaker 8: good as Denver Steven has been Lamar at home, they're

2962
02:32:22,200 --> 02:32:24,680
Speaker 8: going to score. In my opinion their twenty four plus points.

2963
02:32:25,120 --> 02:32:26,520
Speaker 8: Is Denver gonna be able to hang in and put

2964
02:32:26,600 --> 02:32:29,280
Speaker 8: up probably gonna need that. We's close to twenty, maybe

2965
02:32:29,320 --> 02:32:32,440
Speaker 8: even more to cover that nine point spread. Only way

2966
02:32:32,480 --> 02:32:34,560
Speaker 8: you can look eavyside Baltimore for me.

2967
02:32:35,879 --> 02:32:38,320
Speaker 3: All right, we gotta take a quick one, take a

2968
02:32:38,360 --> 02:32:38,880
Speaker 3: quick break.

2969
02:32:38,879 --> 02:32:42,280
Speaker 2: But braid always great, brother, Best of luck to you

2970
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:46,240
Speaker 2: at Brad's Best Bets. You could check out the brain

2971
02:32:46,280 --> 02:32:48,640
Speaker 2: each fantastic. Thanks brother, Look, I appreciate you.

2972
02:32:48,640 --> 02:32:48,920
Speaker 8: Brother.

2973
02:32:49,840 --> 02:32:51,840
Speaker 2: We'll come back fifty and I and wrap it up

2974
02:32:51,920 --> 02:32:57,960
Speaker 2: right up next Fellas hanging out Fox Sports Radio. That

2975
02:32:58,160 --> 02:33:03,200
Speaker 2: cracks me up every time. This is the Fitzy song. Baby.

2976
02:33:03,440 --> 02:33:07,760
Speaker 4: You know what after this, after this is over, that's

2977
02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:10,360
Speaker 4: my day off of the gym. Not gonna lie. I'm

2978
02:33:10,400 --> 02:33:12,560
Speaker 4: not gonna work out today, but I'm gonna do. I'm

2979
02:33:12,560 --> 02:33:14,520
Speaker 4: gonna take the dogs out. Then I'm gonna go take

2980
02:33:14,560 --> 02:33:17,080
Speaker 4: a shower, wash off the morning, and I'm gonna sing

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02:33:17,160 --> 02:33:18,600
Speaker 4: this in the shower, and I'm gonna sing it at

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02:33:18,640 --> 02:33:20,800
Speaker 4: the top of my lungs. I'm telling you that the

2983
02:33:21,040 --> 02:33:23,480
Speaker 4: neighbors are about to get a performance because of this

2984
02:33:24,280 --> 02:33:25,440
Speaker 4: feeling it. Let's go.

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02:33:28,800 --> 02:33:30,000
Speaker 3: By the way what to think?

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02:33:31,000 --> 02:33:35,760
Speaker 2: Mighty Mark are great sound engineer who tab the my way,

2987
02:33:36,280 --> 02:33:38,520
Speaker 2: as well as our producer Brianna.

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02:33:38,800 --> 02:33:39,840
Speaker 3: We love them both.

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02:33:40,800 --> 02:33:46,120
Speaker 2: Uh Bree, did your your recipe work out?

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02:33:46,600 --> 02:33:48,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna You're gonna You're gonna try it. I'm gonna

2991
02:33:48,720 --> 02:33:53,439
Speaker 3: attempt it tomorrow. Okay, let me know how well? Definitely

2992
02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:54,160
Speaker 3: did you?

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02:33:54,200 --> 02:33:56,279
Speaker 4: Did you? What is this? Did you give the secret

2994
02:33:56,400 --> 02:33:57,879
Speaker 4: to making a homie? I don't know.

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02:33:57,920 --> 02:33:59,200
Speaker 3: It's really easy.

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02:33:59,520 --> 02:34:02,640
Speaker 4: So like a bottle of rago in and then you like.

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02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:05,440
Speaker 2: No, please don't do that. No, you can actually do

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02:34:05,520 --> 02:34:09,680
Speaker 2: something really good and tasty. And here you go two seconds.

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02:34:09,959 --> 02:34:13,560
Speaker 2: Get really good olive oil. Okay, put it in the pan.

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02:34:14,320 --> 02:34:18,240
Speaker 2: Put your slice of clover of gar like really thin.

3001
02:34:18,760 --> 02:34:23,840
Speaker 2: All right, one tiny bit of onion, really thin. I

3002
02:34:23,920 --> 02:34:26,160
Speaker 2: put it at a little salt boom, put it in,

3003
02:34:26,840 --> 02:34:29,320
Speaker 2: and then get San Marzano tomatoes.

3004
02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:32,480
Speaker 3: Put that can in, break them up. Okay.

3005
02:34:33,120 --> 02:34:37,760
Speaker 2: Put your put a pasta pot right, put your put

3006
02:34:37,800 --> 02:34:39,959
Speaker 2: your water fill your water salt it.

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02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:41,600
Speaker 3: Put your pasta in.

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02:34:42,600 --> 02:34:46,480
Speaker 2: Make sure it's outdente, which is a little more tough, right,

3009
02:34:46,600 --> 02:34:48,080
Speaker 2: like a little more harder, right, because you want it

3010
02:34:48,080 --> 02:34:51,840
Speaker 2: a little bit like that. Get two spoonfuls of the

3011
02:34:51,879 --> 02:34:56,080
Speaker 2: pasta water after it's boiled, put it back with your sauce.

3012
02:34:56,920 --> 02:35:00,320
Speaker 2: Then strain the pasta. Put the pasta in in the

3013
02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:04,600
Speaker 2: big pan right with the sauce in it. Put it

3014
02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:08,320
Speaker 2: around all right, you know, mix it all in with

3015
02:35:08,360 --> 02:35:12,920
Speaker 2: the pasta, and then great locatelli cheese which is pecorino romano,

3016
02:35:13,640 --> 02:35:16,879
Speaker 2: and then boom, takes you twenty minutes to I put

3017
02:35:16,879 --> 02:35:19,560
Speaker 2: a little red pepper flakes if you like spice. I

3018
02:35:19,600 --> 02:35:23,000
Speaker 2: do that with the garlic and the onion and fresh

3019
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:26,119
Speaker 2: basil in the sauce. I forgot the fresh basil.

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02:35:26,879 --> 02:35:27,480
Speaker 3: Fresh basil.

3021
02:35:28,560 --> 02:35:30,520
Speaker 4: Look. I pulled out an index card and I wrote

3022
02:35:30,560 --> 02:35:33,920
Speaker 4: all of this down, and it's amazing. The only problem like,

3023
02:35:33,959 --> 02:35:37,520
Speaker 4: what do I do since I'm not che What am

3024
02:35:37,560 --> 02:35:39,280
Speaker 4: I doing? Like I can't I can't eat pasta? What

3025
02:35:39,320 --> 02:35:40,960
Speaker 4: do I do if I can't get the pasta water in?

3026
02:35:40,959 --> 02:35:42,840
Speaker 4: Because I usually just like to make the little sauce

3027
02:35:42,879 --> 02:35:44,840
Speaker 4: and then put like the chicken straight in it so

3028
02:35:44,879 --> 02:35:46,640
Speaker 4: that I feel like I'm getting pasta, but I don't

3029
02:35:46,640 --> 02:35:49,800
Speaker 4: actually have the pasta. So like, is the pasta sauce

3030
02:35:50,080 --> 02:35:50,560
Speaker 4: or without the.

3031
02:35:53,320 --> 02:35:53,800
Speaker 3: Protein?

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02:35:54,520 --> 02:35:56,400
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I could, I just I just can't have

3033
02:35:56,480 --> 02:35:59,800
Speaker 4: the I'm not eating pasta right now. So like without

3034
02:35:59,800 --> 02:36:02,640
Speaker 4: THETA water, can I you know, can I still make

3035
02:36:02,680 --> 02:36:03,920
Speaker 4: the saucer? Like do I do?

3036
02:36:04,320 --> 02:36:04,520
Speaker 3: Yes?

3037
02:36:05,360 --> 02:36:05,480
Speaker 4: I do?

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02:36:05,560 --> 02:36:07,240
Speaker 2: If you're going to so you're going to do it,

3039
02:36:07,280 --> 02:36:09,440
Speaker 2: you want to do it with like chicken doesn't really go.

3040
02:36:09,600 --> 02:36:11,560
Speaker 2: But if you want to do it with, uh, you

3041
02:36:11,600 --> 02:36:12,959
Speaker 2: just make the sauce without the pasta.

3042
02:36:13,000 --> 02:36:14,840
Speaker 3: Worry, You're fine. I mean, it's not a big deal.

3043
02:36:15,120 --> 02:36:17,440
Speaker 4: Look, I learned this on tour because we like when

3044
02:36:17,440 --> 02:36:19,480
Speaker 4: I was on the Brad Paisley tour Humble Break. When

3045
02:36:19,520 --> 02:36:21,480
Speaker 4: we were out with Brad, he had this catering company

3046
02:36:21,520 --> 02:36:23,280
Speaker 4: that was great and they used to do pasta night

3047
02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:26,360
Speaker 4: once a week. I was like, man, I I didn't

3048
02:36:26,360 --> 02:36:27,720
Speaker 4: want to eat a bunch of pasta while I was

3049
02:36:27,720 --> 02:36:29,120
Speaker 4: out there. Didn't want to get fat on the road,

3050
02:36:29,400 --> 02:36:32,360
Speaker 4: and so like I went to the guys the catering company,

3051
02:36:32,360 --> 02:36:34,280
Speaker 4: I said, what can I do? And they taught me. Then,

3052
02:36:34,320 --> 02:36:36,920
Speaker 4: like they took chicken and they thinly sliced chicken that

3053
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:39,200
Speaker 4: they you know, they cooked up and then they tossed

3054
02:36:39,240 --> 02:36:41,240
Speaker 4: it in the pasta sauce at the end and it

3055
02:36:41,280 --> 02:36:43,240
Speaker 4: was it was great. Like it makes me feel like

3056
02:36:43,240 --> 02:36:45,560
Speaker 4: I'm eating you know, spaghetti with the you know, black

3057
02:36:45,560 --> 02:36:47,480
Speaker 4: and chicken on it. I just don't have any. I

3058
02:36:47,520 --> 02:36:49,280
Speaker 4: just don't have any pasta and it I still get

3059
02:36:49,280 --> 02:36:51,640
Speaker 4: that pasta like fixed with the with the tomato.

3060
02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:54,160
Speaker 3: Like it serious saying you could you can easily do that.

3061
02:36:54,320 --> 02:36:54,680
Speaker 3: You can.

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02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:56,840
Speaker 2: You don't do any breading on the chicken right on

3063
02:36:56,879 --> 02:37:01,160
Speaker 2: the chicken. You don't make a cutlet right. I got

3064
02:37:01,200 --> 02:37:03,280
Speaker 2: news for you. I will say this though, if you

3065
02:37:03,400 --> 02:37:07,400
Speaker 2: eat pasta and you know, just don't eat a pound

3066
02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:07,760
Speaker 2: of it.

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02:37:08,280 --> 02:37:10,280
Speaker 3: I mean you're you're fine. It's good for you. Go

3068
02:37:10,320 --> 02:37:12,240
Speaker 3: to Italy. You'll see the people there. They're good.

3069
02:37:12,320 --> 02:37:14,920
Speaker 2: And the sauce that you're putting them in is not

3070
02:37:14,959 --> 02:37:16,360
Speaker 2: a high caloric sauce.

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02:37:17,680 --> 02:37:20,160
Speaker 4: So well no. And there's a place down the road

3072
02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:22,040
Speaker 4: that I just saw the other day has fresh made

3073
02:37:22,040 --> 02:37:24,200
Speaker 4: pasta you can buy in small batches. And I was

3074
02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:26,320
Speaker 4: like that sounds you see, not like give me give

3075
02:37:26,360 --> 02:37:29,080
Speaker 4: me that something. Yeah, I want some you know some

3076
02:37:29,160 --> 02:37:31,800
Speaker 4: grandma that that hand rolled, my my. You know, total

3077
02:37:31,840 --> 02:37:32,320
Speaker 4: leaning for me.

3078
02:37:32,360 --> 02:37:34,080
Speaker 2: That's what I get. I could do it for you,

3079
02:37:34,360 --> 02:37:38,480
Speaker 2: all right. I do it for the kids. The kids

3080
02:37:38,520 --> 02:37:38,920
Speaker 2: love it.

3081
02:37:39,560 --> 02:37:41,720
Speaker 3: Right. By the way, it's cheap too.

3082
02:37:43,800 --> 02:37:45,959
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get a pasta making class

3083
02:37:46,000 --> 02:37:48,160
Speaker 4: at Anthony's house on Thanksgiving. I'm coming. Let's go.

3084
02:37:48,520 --> 02:37:51,240
Speaker 3: We come. Christmas Eve. Man, you're invited. I told you.

3085
02:37:51,360 --> 02:37:52,320
Speaker 4: Christmas Eve is even better.

3086
02:37:52,360 --> 02:37:52,640
Speaker 3: Let's go.

3087
02:37:52,720 --> 02:37:53,560
Speaker 4: I'm in there, I'm in.

3088
02:37:53,959 --> 02:37:56,320
Speaker 2: You gotta come. I do the fishes. We did a

3089
02:37:56,320 --> 02:37:57,800
Speaker 2: whole big seven fish celebration.

3090
02:37:58,080 --> 02:37:59,280
Speaker 3: All right. That's gonna do it. Man.

3091
02:38:00,200 --> 02:38:03,760
Speaker 2: Guys, have a great weekend. Can't wait for football. Go

3092
02:38:03,920 --> 02:38:04,520
Speaker 2: for it.