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Speaker 3: Back.

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Speaker 2: I was out last week. First of all, Jason, give

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Speaker 2: me the quick run. Now, what was the dumbest thing

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Speaker 2: Arnie said in my absence last week? Anything like spectacularly

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Speaker 2: dumb or.

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Speaker 3: He said some things that seemed insane. None of it really,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a four hour wall of text. Basically,

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Speaker 3: it's a too long, didn't read kind of situation when

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Speaker 3: you're hosting with Arnie. It was fine. I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: think if there was anything that was just really kind

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Speaker 3: of mind blowing. I don't think. I don't think that

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Speaker 3: he said something that just absolutely maybe we need to

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Speaker 3: talk to We'll bring in Steve and he'll probably jog

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Speaker 3: my memory on some of this, because I know he

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Speaker 3: said some dumb stuff, but I can't remember what it was.

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Speaker 2: I believe he said that if Ricky Fowler shot ten

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Speaker 2: under or more at the US Open, he quit.

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Speaker 4: Guess.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I think the correct answer to that question is,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's every week, so I don't know if

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Speaker 5: we could actually rank these things.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, I'm sure, I just can't remember.

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Speaker 3: Steve, did he say something.

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, exactly, it's unbelievable. Well, I will say it

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Speaker 4: is good to be back.

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Speaker 2: Missed you guys, And uh, I'll say this, Jason, and

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Speaker 2: I know I've said this like every show open basically

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Speaker 2: all spring long. But this is supposed to be the

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Speaker 2: quiet time of year in sports, and I just feel

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Speaker 2: like we.

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Speaker 4: Have so much to get into. You know.

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Speaker 2: The Nuggets obviously have won a titles since the last

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Speaker 2: time you and Arnie were on air, certainly since the

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Speaker 2: last time I.

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Speaker 4: Was first of all US Open Golf. Still very much

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Speaker 4: going on.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry we had got four hours to discuss this

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Speaker 2: West Coast US Opens for the best way I mean

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Speaker 2: we could. There are certain things in life, you know,

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of things that are debatable. I

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Speaker 2: don't think we're all unified on any one thing in

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Speaker 2: this world anymore if you don't love West Coast Golf,

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Speaker 2: where we have the leaders, Ricky Fowler and a few

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Speaker 2: others on the thirteenth hole with probably another hour of

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Speaker 2: live golf. I don't know what to tell you, but

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Speaker 2: let's start with obviously, I think the news of probably

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Speaker 2: the last thirty six or so hours, and that is,

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Speaker 2: of course John Moran. I know you hosted last night

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Speaker 2: filling in for Bernie Fratto. You had a lot to

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Speaker 2: say on this, and I know everybody who is listening

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Speaker 2: knows about everything that has happened with John Moran over

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Speaker 2: the last twenty four to thirty six hours as well.

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Speaker 2: But the Memphis Grizzly Star, we know the situation, second

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Speaker 2: time in a three to four month span, was caught

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Speaker 2: on social media Instagram live with a gun, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Adam Silverhead had referenced even before I left on my trip.

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Speaker 2: So it was during the NBA Finals. I believe it

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Speaker 2: was before Game one that a punishment would be coming

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Speaker 2: down post NBA Finals. It comes down yesterday on Friday,

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Speaker 2: twenty five game suspension. My understanding is he can still

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Speaker 2: appeal that over the next couple of days with the Players' Union.

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Speaker 2: But I know you talked a lot about this, Jason.

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Speaker 2: I know I got a lot of thoughts on it.

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Speaker 2: But when you heard twenty five games yesterday, what was

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Speaker 2: your initial reaction?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, what I had said was the

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Speaker 3: All Star break and this is going to be more

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Speaker 3: like December, and it has conditions attached to it. And

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Speaker 3: the NBPA said, you know, this is inappropriate, and we're

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Speaker 3: exploring our options. And that's what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 3: That's what the Players Union is always going to do.

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Speaker 3: They did it for the Shawn Watson in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I don't love that they have to be on that side,

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Speaker 3: but I understand what they're in business to do. I

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Speaker 3: understand what their objective is. Five games it might be enough.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's three times longer than the other one was.

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Speaker 3: It still leaves me wanting just a little bit. And

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Speaker 3: And I kind of was thinking out loud when I

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Speaker 3: the number that actually hurts jaw, that actually gets across

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Speaker 3: to him, The severity of what's happened here, because it's

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Speaker 3: hard to find somebody that makes that much money. But

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Speaker 3: he's gonna be losing over three hundred thousand dollars a game,

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Speaker 3: which is a lot more than he lost last year.

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Speaker 3: Because he's got the new extension coming in. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: cost him a lot of money, and it's cost him

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Speaker 3: a lot from a reputation standpoint. But what is twenty

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Speaker 3: five games? What does it actually mean? And Adam Silver,

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Speaker 3: this is the second longest suspension that you know, he's

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Speaker 3: role in the NBA. The number one was and that

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Speaker 3: that was thirty games. And this ties with a fleet.

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Speaker 3: I think it's four other ped suspensions that were twenty

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Speaker 3: five and so the rationale was that was a crime,

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Speaker 3: the bridge's situation was a crime, so this was not.

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Speaker 3: So we can't quite get to thirty And my only

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Speaker 3: look at what happened in the past to set precedent

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Speaker 3: every incident individually and assess a few different things. From

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Speaker 3: a business perspective, twenty five might be absolutely fine. But

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Speaker 3: I hope and would feel that I would want it

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Speaker 3: give him the time to get over this and hopefully

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Speaker 3: come back a better version of himself, and just give

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Speaker 3: him the opportunity to live out his dream. And I

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Speaker 3: mean on the court and off the court, because of

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Speaker 3: the thing that Adam Silver even said in his statement

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Speaker 3: Aaron about you know, kids look up to job, they

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Speaker 3: could emulate this kind of behavior exactly. And we're talking

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Speaker 3: situation where you were kind of laxed. In fact, you

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Speaker 3: But it seems to me if you had given the

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Speaker 3: you would have been in position to give more now.

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Speaker 3: And I want to give him grace and I want

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Speaker 3: he's capable of being. And I don't know that twenty

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Speaker 3: five games is enough to completely change it. And I

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Speaker 3: saw the statement, and the statement said a lot of

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Speaker 3: because what else is he gonna say? But I like

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Speaker 3: the way the statement read. I just kind of am

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Speaker 3: torn on it because twenty five is not nothing. But

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Speaker 3: I still feel like I'm still looking at it like

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if that is satisfied. I personally

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Speaker 3: would would have liked to have seen more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is one I think I'm basically in

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Speaker 2: your camp, is I g So it's tough, right because

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Speaker 2: I get the notion that no law was broken. I

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Speaker 2: get the notion that nothing, at least in this most

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Speaker 4: I guess where I'm at is kind of where you

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Speaker 4: are from this perspective. Is I just there's no way listen.

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Speaker 2: Our job is is to And you know, Arnie and

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Speaker 2: I used to talk about this all the time, right,

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Speaker 2: Arnie always uses the term our show is tonight, and

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Speaker 2: we have to react based on the information that we have.

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because nobody really knows except for Jah,

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Speaker 2: how remorseful he is, how sorry he is, has he

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Speaker 2: really learned a lesson? And those are things that are

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Speaker 2: gonna unfold over the next couple of weeks the next

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Speaker 4: You know whatever.

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Speaker 2: Why I bring it up is because from my perspective,

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Speaker 2: I still don't really think that him and his camp

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Speaker 2: really get the severity of this. And let me explain,

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Speaker 2: why was it not a week ago that somebody from

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Speaker 2: his camp was claiming that it was a fake gun? Like,

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Speaker 2: so to go from fake gun to immediate remorseful apology

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Speaker 2: yesterday of oh, you know, I've learned my lesson and

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Speaker 2: I have so much to prove and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: Well no you don't, because.

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Speaker 2: Why are you leaking this nonsense BS story a week

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Speaker 2: ago and now a week later, Oh I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Well you shouldn't be sorry, because you just told us

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Speaker 2: it's a fake gun. And so this, to me continues

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Speaker 2: the pattern from the last time, which was, oh, I

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Speaker 2: went to therapy, and let me tell you, I was

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Speaker 2: there for forty eight hours, and I learned everything there is.

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Speaker 2: You didn't and you haven't. And so again I don't

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Speaker 2: know if John Moran is truly remorseful. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he Maybe he is, and maybe he has learned

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Speaker 2: his lesson, but to your point, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: twenty five games is gonna do the trick.

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Speaker 4: And then here's the other thing.

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Speaker 2: The point that you brought up a minute ago is

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Speaker 2: end up being twenty five games, right, So to your point,

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Speaker 2: I would have liked it to be forty, just so

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Speaker 2: that if it gets knocked down to twenty five, then

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Speaker 2: you're still missing whatever it is, more than a quarter

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Speaker 2: of the season. And to your point, seven plus million dollars,

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Speaker 2: three hundred plus thousand dollars per game. But you know

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Speaker 2: it's at twenty five, I don't. I'm not gonna sit

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Speaker 2: this appeals process works. But you know, what if it's

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Speaker 2: a pattern of behavior, I don't believe that he has

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Speaker 2: shown any real sign that he has learned his lesson.

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Speaker 4: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I understand the concept that he didn't break a law

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Speaker 2: all that, but it is again a loose code of

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Speaker 2: conduct from the perspective of representing the league. You know,

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Speaker 2: we always say in the NFL representing the shield, and

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Speaker 2: he's done a poor job of that, and he hasn't

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Speaker 2: really shown anything other than a few empty statements that

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Speaker 2: shows that he's actually learned any lessons throughout all this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that point, and I actually made that point

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Speaker 3: assuming an appeal, then you get down to a number

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Speaker 3: that you might have wanted originally, even though I still

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Speaker 3: believe twenty five is not quite enough. The other thing

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Speaker 3: with me, the statement still doesn't read like jaw to me.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't not the job that I have seen

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Speaker 3: and listen to and things like that, and so there's

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Speaker 3: It might all be genuine, and I'm going to give

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Speaker 3: him the benefit of the doubt and say that it is.

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Speaker 3: But I always go back to the example of Michael

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Speaker 2: But once you get behind the wheel, And that was

436
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Speaker 2: kind of my big takeaway today seeing the arrest report,

437
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Speaker 2: is that when you're getting behind the wheel in that situation,

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Speaker 2: forget all the other stuff. But if you want to

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Speaker 2: include what just happened a few weeks ago, the fact

440
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Speaker 2: that your university in your state had your back when

441
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Speaker 2: they easily could have turned on you, and you still

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Speaker 2: decide to not only have that much to drink, but

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Speaker 2: then get behind the wheel. You have no respect for

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Speaker 2: your employer who stuck their neck.

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Speaker 4: Out for you. You have no respect for.

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Speaker 2: The common citizen that you're putting in danger, and frankly,

447
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Speaker 2: you probably don't have very much respect for yourself and

448
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Speaker 2: your life and your livelihood because obviously being on a

449
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Speaker 2: zero strike policy, it goes without saying that. You know, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't really think there's much else

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Speaker 2: to add.

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Speaker 3: I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you can have drinks as an adult.

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Speaker 2: You can have too many at points, you can't get

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Speaker 2: behind the wheel. You certainly cannot get behind the wheel

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Speaker 2: when you have a history of this and you're on

457
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Speaker 2: a zero strike policy. This was the only thing to

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Speaker 2: be this only decision to be made. This wasn't a

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Speaker 2: tough choice. And you know, I guess I give Bob

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Speaker 2: Huggins a tiny bit of credit for not putting his

461
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Speaker 2: employer and his state university in a tough position of

462
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Speaker 2: kind of fighting this publicly. And you know whatever, he

463
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Speaker 2: resigned effective of just about an hour ago. He is

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Speaker 2: no longer the head coach at West Virginia University. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Aer Torres, Jason Martin. Coming up, we will

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Speaker 2: discuss the Denver Nuggets, who of course took home the

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Speaker 2: NBA title just a few nights ago, and what it

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Speaker 2: means for the present and future of the NBA. Before

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Speaker 2: we do, though, toss it over the news desk, Steve

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Speaker 2: to Seger, what is trending?

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Speaker 5: It is official, Bob Huggins is out, and what you

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Speaker 5: were just talking about getting behind the wheel drunk is

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Speaker 5: completely inexcusable. Period, A guy making four million dollars with

474
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Speaker 5: a previous dui not getting transportation kind of amazing. Frankly.

475
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Speaker 5: Among the comments Mountaineer Nation, he says today, I have

476
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Speaker 5: submitted a letter school president and vice president director of

477
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Speaker 5: Athletics informing them of my resignation and intention to retire

478
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Speaker 5: as men's basketball coach at West Virginia, effective immediately. Ricky

479
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Speaker 5: Fowler led the US Open by one stroke to start

480
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Speaker 5: the night's evening golf for a lot of time zones

481
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Speaker 5: watching the LA Country Club host this major this weekend.

482
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Speaker 5: They're late in the third round and Fowler has a

483
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Speaker 5: one stroke advantage with two holes to go tonight over

484
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Speaker 5: fellow American Wyndham Clark. Rory McElroy is two back. He's

485
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Speaker 5: on the eighteenth. Scottie Scheffler shot a sixty eight. He

486
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Speaker 5: is four back, tied for fourth with Harris English of

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Speaker 5: the US to Major League Baseball, No Yankees at Red

488
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Speaker 5: Sox game tonight. It was rained out. They'll play a

489
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Speaker 5: doubleheader tomorrow so on Fox TV. San Diego shut out

490
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Speaker 5: Tampa Bay to nothing. The Rays record now fifty one

491
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Speaker 5: and twenty three. Blake Snell ex off Tampa Bay got

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Speaker 5: the wins, six scoreless innings, twelve strikeouts, save number seventeen

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Speaker 5: for Josh Hater. There are two late ball games on

494
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Speaker 5: at one right now. The best team in the n WES.

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Speaker 5: The Arizona Diamondbacks are hosting Cleveland Guardians, up one nothing,

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Speaker 5: top of the second. The Dodgers are second in the

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Speaker 5: nl WES, three games behind the d Becks, and the

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Speaker 5: Giants are out to a five nothing lead at Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 5: Now in the top of the six, Saint Louis beat

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Speaker 5: the Mets five to three. Mets record thirty three and

501
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Speaker 5: thirty seven. Braves won their fifth in a row down

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Speaker 5: in Colorado, ten to two. Braves led nine to nothing

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Speaker 5: in the third inning with four home runs. By the way,

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Speaker 5: I saw a stat last night that Ronald Acuna of Atlanta,

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Speaker 5: in his team's first seventy games of a season, first

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Speaker 5: player in MLB history to have at least fifteen homers

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Speaker 5: and thirty stolen bases already. It's just stunning. Kansas City,

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Speaker 5: speaking of stunning, quite the comeback to beat the Angels

509
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Speaker 5: earlier today on FS one ten to nine Royals the

510
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Speaker 5: final a KC team that had lost ten The Royals

511
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Speaker 5: in the last three innings scored eight runs. Shoheo Tani

512
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Speaker 5: with his twenty third homer. He leads the American League

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Speaker 5: fifty six. RBIs now he's tied for the league league.

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Speaker 5: He's batting an even three hundred and the Angels lost.

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia won it's fifth straight at twelve inning win at

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Speaker 5: Oakland three to two. The A's record nineteen and fifty four.

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Speaker 5: White Sox won in eleven innings at Seattle. Cincinnati won

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Speaker 5: at seventh straight a victory at Houston. Milwaukee shutout Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: Cubs won their fifth straight wins for Texas in Miami.

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Speaker 5: For Minnesota as well. Minnesota shut out Detroit two. Nothing.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Twins are up to thirty six and

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Speaker 5: thirty five alone and first in the AL Central.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Saga,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday RATORUS Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the Tireck dot Com studios. As the Saga said,

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Speaker 2: we still got some US Open going on here at

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Speaker 2: about ten thirty five Eastern time. Will react as the

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Speaker 2: round goes final here over the next half hour or so.

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Speaker 4: Jason.

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Speaker 2: With that said, though, I do want to get to

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Speaker 2: probably the big news of the week, you know, at

532
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Speaker 2: least on a positive note outside of John Morant, and

533
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Speaker 2: that was that for the first time ever, the Denver

534
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: Nuggets have won the NBA Championship, and they won it convincingly.

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Speaker 2: They won it in five games. I know some time

536
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: has passed, but I know that when Game five went

537
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Speaker 2: final on Monday night, I had probably one pretty big takeaway.

538
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Speaker 2: And I want to know if you agree with this,

539
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Speaker 2: is that I think in life and times in sports,

540
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Speaker 2: there are often times where we can get hyperbolic and

541
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Speaker 2: we can go crazy and we can overthink things. And

542
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Speaker 2: you know, I think the NBA more than any other sport,

543
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Speaker 2: like everything has to be to the nth degree. Is

544
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Speaker 2: this guy's the greatest, this guy's that, this guy's this,

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Speaker 2: how about that?

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Speaker 4: But when I look at this Denver.

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Speaker 2: Nuggets team, Kolea Jokicz just turned twenty eight years old,

548
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Speaker 2: Jamal Murray just turned twenty six years old, Michael Porter

549
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Speaker 2: is twenty four, Christian Brown played a big role at

550
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Speaker 2: twenty one to twenty two years old.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon's twenty seven.

552
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Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon is twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: I know I hate when NBA Twitter tries to make

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Speaker 2: something into something that isn't that. But when I look

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Speaker 2: at this Denver Nuggets corp. And I look at what

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Speaker 2: they just did and who they just did it against

557
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: going through KD and Devin Booker, going through Lebron and

558
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Speaker 2: AD obviously taking down the Miami Heat. I'm not sitting

559
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Speaker 2: here saying, you know, they're ripping off the next five

560
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Speaker 2: in a row, but this feels to me like the

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Speaker 2: next six seven years the Denver Nuggets.

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Speaker 4: They have officially.

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Speaker 2: Arrived, and I really do believe this could be the

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Speaker 2: start of potentially the next dynasty in the NBA, with

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Speaker 2: not only a young star, but a young corps that

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Speaker 2: in theory should be together the next six to seven

567
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Speaker 2: years and just now entering their prime.

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Speaker 3: Well that was basically my take. Twenty eight, twenty seven,

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Speaker 3: twenty six, twenty four of those being the ages of

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Speaker 3: those four guys, their core is all locked up for

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Speaker 3: at least two more years. They're all in their prime.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that there is some one in the

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Speaker 3: league that can consistently stop Jokic and the way that

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Speaker 3: he plays. If Aaron Gordon, you know, finds a rhythm

575
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Speaker 3: and can be a little more consistent, that's unreal. They're

576
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Speaker 3: gonna lose Brown, That's the one guy that they're gonna lose.

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Speaker 3: They may lose Kcps after this coming year. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Bruce Brown. They're gonna lose him most likely because they're

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Speaker 3: just not gonna be able to afford his market. They're

580
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Speaker 3: kind of close to the luxury tax. But to your

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Speaker 3: point you mentioned Braun and Watson as well. Both those

582
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Speaker 3: guys nearly crack the rotation, uh in terms of you

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Speaker 3: can look as a matter of fact that Braun and

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Speaker 3: see a guy right there that can replace Bruce Brown

585
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Speaker 3: if you had to. And Brown was excellent for them

586
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Speaker 3: this year. But they are in a position and they

587
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Speaker 3: also have some decent draft capital right now to go

588
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Speaker 3: grab some young guys, and they have some picks that

589
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Speaker 3: you know, you could see them making a couple of

590
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Speaker 3: moves there. But the big thing is they have these

591
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Speaker 3: guys on lock, and they have their coach, and they

592
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Speaker 3: do feel like they're gonna be here for a while

593
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Speaker 3: because they've been coming for a little while now. They've

594
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Speaker 3: kind of put this all together and they've been able

595
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Speaker 3: to do what the Buffalo Bills haven't as of yet.

596
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Speaker 3: And that's really the comparison. It's like the Bills right

597
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: now aspire to be the Nuggets because they've been talked

598
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Speaker 3: about the Nuggets have talked about Charles Barkley has been

599
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: talking about the Nuggets on TNT for half a decade

600
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Speaker 3: that I'm going with the Nuggets out of the West

601
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Speaker 3: all this and it would never happen. And it just

602
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Speaker 3: felt like, well, here's another Portland, here's another Utah, here's

603
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: another one of these kind of teams that does great

604
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Speaker 3: in the regular season, then they get into the playoffs

605
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Speaker 3: and they can't win. That's just not the case with

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Speaker 3: the Nuggets. It wasn't just a situation where Jamal Murray

607
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Speaker 3: was good in the bubble. He's just really, really good,

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Speaker 3: and he's coming. He seems to be becoming better as

609
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Speaker 3: they move it along. And I look at the rest

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Speaker 3: of the West and I know we have a separate

611
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Speaker 3: topic we could talk about there, but like, it's not

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Speaker 3: that daunting right now. There's not a ton of teams

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Speaker 3: that I like, They're still gonna be the most complete

614
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Speaker 3: team coming back next year. Their real competition, to me,

615
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Speaker 3: is still coming from the East. I'm kind of looking

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Speaker 3: at Philly side eyed right now. Boston's gonna have to

617
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Speaker 3: do something if they run it all back. I don't

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Speaker 3: like that. I think their ceiling has been hit, and

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Speaker 3: I just don't think it's quite enough, Milwaukee is still

620
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: a great basketball team, and we'll see what their new

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Speaker 3: coaching situation does and what little tweaks that they make.

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Speaker 3: I think they will still be heard from. But I

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Speaker 3: agree with you, and I hate the fact that every

624
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 3: time a new team wins a championship, it's like, well,

625
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: how many are they gonna win? It's like, can we

626
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: appreciate the one that they just won? And that being said,

627
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Speaker 3: this is a team where you look at it and

628
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: say the core is there and it's gonna be there

629
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Speaker 3: for some time, and they just look the part. There's

630
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Speaker 3: no reason to think they're gonna drop off and that

631
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: this was some aberration. This absolutely was the opposite of

632
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Speaker 3: a fluke. And they have a strategy and a build

633
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Speaker 3: that has worked. Their version of Josh Allen, Nikola Jokic

634
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Speaker 3: has gotten there. And usually when you get there and

635
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Speaker 3: you're a team that's been hyped up to get there,

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Speaker 3: and it wasn't kind of something out of nowhere. They're

637
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Speaker 3: staying power behind that. I think the Nuggets. I think

638
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Speaker 3: the Nuggets are really good and they're gonna continue to

639
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: be really good.

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Speaker 2: I do too, And I think the other thing that

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Speaker 2: stands out to me about this particular group, and obviously,

642
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: you know, stuff changes as you have more success, but

643
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: they they there's a humility to them of it. Like

644
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Speaker 2: Jokic is obviously the extreme example, like, yeah, the work's done,

645
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: we get to go home, okay, But like Jamal Murray

646
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Speaker 2: doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that is

647
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: going to get annoyed that Nikola Jokic is getting more

648
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: attention than him. Michael Porter Junior was going to the

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Speaker 2: podium this week and making the argument that he believes

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Speaker 2: Nicola Jokic is the greatest big man to ever play

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Speaker 2: the game. Like so, like Michael Porter Junior isn't gonna

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Speaker 2: wake up one day. Maybe he will, but I don't

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Speaker 2: sense that he's gonna wake up and say, man, Jokic

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Speaker 2: is getting too much credit. Where's my where's my love?

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Speaker 2: It's like no, no, no, he knows how special it is.

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Speaker 2: And so that's what stands out to me is that

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Speaker 2: while the styles are very different, this reminds me of

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Speaker 2: early Warriors, where you just got a bunch of guys

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Speaker 2: that seem to genuinely like playing with each other. There's

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Speaker 2: a humility among them from the perspective that they don't

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Speaker 2: care who gets the credit and you talk about again,

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Speaker 2: twenty eight years old for Yokis, twenty six for Murray,

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Speaker 2: twenty four for Porter, twenty seven for Eric Gordon, which

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Speaker 2: is crazy because it feels like he's been around face.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like you had that Dun't contest with

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Speaker 3: Zach Levine like fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and so I don't think they're going anywhere. And

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Speaker 2: then to your point, and we'll get to it later.

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Speaker 2: The Suns are clearly trying to make moves. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if anybody else can keep up, but a deserving champion.

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Speaker 2: Sof the break, Jason, we were talking a little bit

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Speaker 2: about Denver Nuggets NBA champions and I think we're both

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Speaker 2: in agreement.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: I think I think they're built for the next six, seven,

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Speaker 2: eight years. You know, to just keep doing what they're

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Speaker 2: doing one thing that I will say though, that drives

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Speaker 2: me a little bit crazy. And it's nobody in particular

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Speaker 2: because I listen, I get that, you know, everybody in

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Speaker 2: our business, you're trying to come up with unique takes.

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Speaker 4: This that the other thing.

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Speaker 2: I was blown away by how many times on mainstream

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Speaker 2: TV and radio and this and that. And I'm not

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Speaker 2: criticizing anybody at our network or FS one or anybody

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Speaker 2: even at another network if they did this topic, I

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Speaker 2: just personally think it's dumb. And that's the topic of

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Speaker 2: does this make Nikola Jokic at all time great? And

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Speaker 2: I go back to I've talked about this with you.

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Speaker 2: I know when I filled in with Dan Byer, we've

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Speaker 2: talked about this is. First of all, Kola yok is

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Speaker 2: twenty eight years old. And then I get he he's

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Speaker 2: won two MVPs, an NBA title in the finals VP.

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Speaker 2: But if Nikole Jokic retires tomorrow, no, I just think

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Speaker 2: it's so dumb. The guy's twenty eight years old. He

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Speaker 2: has such a huge portion of his career ahead of him,

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Speaker 2: and like it's one thing if you're talking about Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady is an all time great? After Super Bowl five

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Speaker 2: or Super Bowl six or whatever, and he's thirty eight

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Speaker 2: thirty nine years old, towards the tail end of his career.

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Speaker 2: I just don't get why you're doing it with basketball

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Speaker 2: players that are just now entering their prime.

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Speaker 4: And I'll take it a step further.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that annoys me about it, and

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm just getting two worked up. These aren't conversations

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Speaker 2: that real sports fans have. Just let me ask you

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Speaker 2: a question. I know you're your father and a husband

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Speaker 2: and of this and of that, but I'm sure at

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Speaker 2: some point in your life you get together with your buddies,

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Speaker 2: have a cold drink in talk sports. Do you ever

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Speaker 2: go through your center ranking when you get together with

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Speaker 2: your buddies? Often does well? You know, Uh, Nikole Jokic

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Speaker 2: moved up to number three in my all time He

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Speaker 2: passed Shack. He's still got two more. He needs at

742
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Speaker 2: least another ring to pass to pass Kareem. It's like

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Speaker 2: nobody talks like this. There are so many interesting conversations

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Speaker 2: to have out of that NBA Finals, and I don't

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Speaker 2: get this weird rush by the NBA media to contextualize

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Speaker 2: everything with this history that and that history that and

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. It drives me crazy. I saw it all week.

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Speaker 2: This rant has been bubbling inside of me since Monday night.

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Speaker 2: So forgive me, Jason. I just don't get it. And

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Speaker 2: am let me even just put it to you. Am

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Speaker 2: I missing something? Am I out of touch? Should we

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Speaker 2: be having this?

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't get it. I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's necessary to have the conversation

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Speaker 3: right now. I think you are underestimating how many actual

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00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: people sit around the bar, sit around the barber shop,

757
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: sit around the living room or a den with their

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Speaker 3: guys and do have these kind of hypothetical conversations. One

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Speaker 3: of the reasons why we can go into these debates

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Speaker 3: and discussions on sports talk radio is because we are

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Speaker 3: reflective of the public at large. Yes I have a microphone,

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Speaker 3: Yes you have a microphone. We have a bit of

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Speaker 3: a platform here. But generally speaking, what we're doing is

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Speaker 3: we're hanging out in the locker room with everybody that's

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Speaker 3: listening to us. We're hanging around a bar, we're hanging

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Speaker 3: around a restaurant, and we're having these fun hypothetical debates

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Speaker 3: that ultimately don't mean anything. What we know about twenty

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Speaker 3: eight year old Nikola Jokic is that we're watching a

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame career in front of our eyes. We

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Speaker 3: know that right now. That's not hyperb that's not hyperbolic.

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Speaker 3: That is not me being subjective. He's a Hall of

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Speaker 3: Famer right now. Like he's a two time MVP, as

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Speaker 3: you mentioned, he's now a finals MVP, and he has

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Speaker 3: a championship, the first one the Denver Nuggets have ever

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Speaker 3: even come close to sniffing. So the all time great

776
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Speaker 3: conversation is always going to happen because we always want

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Speaker 3: to place people within the context of history. How fast

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Speaker 3: was it we were talking about Mike Trout having the

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Speaker 3: best stats of all time and comparing him to it

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Speaker 3: happened a lot as you were mentioning your rant here.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not really trying to like say you're wrong

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Speaker 3: about it, but I will say this, Nikola Jokich is

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Speaker 3: twenty eight. You know who's twenty seven, Patrick Mahomes. How

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Speaker 3: many times do we have in the discussion as to

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Speaker 3: where he ranks all time?

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Speaker 4: See, I don't feel like those conversations are happening, though I.

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Speaker 3: Know I do. I think they're happening all the time.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like when Patrick Mahomes won this title,

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Speaker 2: people were like, well, I mean, you know he's got

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Speaker 2: he's got two, and that means he's definitely better than

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Speaker 2: Drew Brees.

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Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I think we all think that he's won.

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Speaker 4: I think we all know that he's more talented than

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Speaker 4: Drew Brees. And I I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I I guess maybe it's like a if he continues

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Speaker 2: on this, could he pass Brady? Like, I think those

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00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: conversations are happening, But I don't think it becomes this like, well,

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Speaker 2: he has two, so you know, I wasn't sure if

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Speaker 2: I had him above Drew Brees in my all time rankings,

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Speaker 2: but now he got the second one, and he does

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Speaker 2: and if he gets through, I got to move them

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Speaker 2: past Peyton Mannie don't I don't think those conversations are happening.

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Speaker 3: I don't see. I kind of do, maybe not specifically

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Speaker 3: the way that you laid it out there. But we're

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Speaker 3: talking about him and Brady all the time. We're talking

806
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Speaker 3: about him and guys like Elway and Montana and where

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00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: he sits in that kind of stuff. We're even looking

808
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: at stuff like is Kelsey better than Gronk like these

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00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: kinds of conversations happen all the time about all these

810
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Speaker 3: athletes because they are hypothetical and they're just flat out arguments.

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Speaker 3: There's not a way to prove it objectively. It's all subjective,

812
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Speaker 3: which is what makes it interesting. I want to talk

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Speaker 3: to you about it to get your feelings on it,

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Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna lay out my case for you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a whole lot of people make millions

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Speaker 3: of dollars in the mornings to do nothing but this

817
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: kind of speculation and this kind of and the reason

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Speaker 3: why it works is because I'm having that same discussion

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Speaker 3: with my bros. And now I'm watching you on TV

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Speaker 3: having the same discussion, and then I can say, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know what X said, It's interesting.

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Speaker 4: Have you have you ever? Fox Sports Tarty.

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Speaker 2: about this, Jason, the golf the US Open just ended

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 4: Last group just finished up.

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Speaker 2: Ricky Fowler and Wyndam Clark tied at ten under Roy

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Speaker 2: McElroy at nine under Scotty Scheffler. As the Sagre just

835
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Speaker 2: told you made major moves to get to seven under.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about all the moving parts in

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Speaker 2: golf right now, Jason, But I mentioned this off the top.

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Speaker 2: We live in very divisive times. No one can ever

839
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: agree on anything. But are we not all in universal agreement?

840
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Speaker 2: West Coast US Opens are the best. It's eleven o'clock

841
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: Eastern time. I don't live on the East Coast, but

842
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: imagine just being a dad, a husband, a guy or

843
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: girl that works hard all week every week and you

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00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: just get to sit back and have a cold one

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Speaker 2: and relax and watch golf on a Saturday night. I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying we need a primetime golf in September, October,

847
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: November when we have college football, or in April when

848
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: we have NBA playoff games going on at all hours

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00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: of the day. But in June Father's Day weekend, this

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00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: is pretty freaking cool. Man, eleven o'clock Eastern time, the

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Speaker 2: US Open, just end of Jason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. Uh, you know how I feel about

853
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: golf and watching it on television, how much I enjoy it.

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00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 3: Masters in the US Open are among my favorite events

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00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: period to watch in all of sports. And getting to

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Speaker 3: watch it this late and actually being in our time

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Speaker 3: slot and watching live golf in a major championship setting

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Speaker 3: is phenomenal. I don't love this course just because I

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00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: want to see my US Open is a little bit

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Speaker 3: more difficult, but boy, I'll tell you it's gonna be

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00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: drama tomorrow. You've got McElroy just off the lead. You

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00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 3: got Wyndham Clark who somehow only gave one back after

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Speaker 3: it was a weird, weird scene for him on eighteen,

864
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: and then Fowler. That's exactly how you didn't want to

865
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: see this end like that. I don't know that you

866
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: could be rooting harder for anybody that is currently available

867
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: to play, then you would be rooting for a guy

868
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 3: like Fowler, who was he was one of those young

869
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: guns alongside the Speace, alongside the Rory McElroy's, those kind

870
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: of guys, and he couldn't win a major. And then

871
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: he dropped over the last year or so to in

872
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: the one seventies in world golf rankings. He missed three

873
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: of the four majors because he didn't qualify last year.

874
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: What was the story he was on the range hoping

875
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: somebody would drop out last year at the US Open.

876
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: I heard that, Yeah, day, I couldn't believe that.

877
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: It's nuts, Like his swing just went away, his confidence

878
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 3: went away. I saw this guy Firestone years ago when

879
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: he was still one of the best, one of the

880
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: guys that you were just wins. He gonna win a major.

881
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: And then it was is he gonna win another tournament?

882
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: Are we ever gonna see him again in a relevant

883
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 3: spot in a golf tournament? And it just dropped off

884
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: a cliff, the idea that he's at least he's still

885
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: tied for the lead, but he's on eighteen and he's

886
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: got a birdie putt aaron and he missed it and

887
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: it lipped around, and it left him a little bit

888
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: longer than you would want, especially on the ice that

889
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: is a US Open green coming back, and he lipped

890
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 3: that thing around and he basically had the same distance.

891
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: So he ends up three putting on a green when

892
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 3: he could have potentially had a two stroke lead going

893
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 3: into the final round. Now he's tied at ten under

894
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 3: with Rory right there behind him at nine. It's gonna

895
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: be great, dr But I kind of was hoping he'd

896
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: be able to go in with more confidence because I

897
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: said last night I want to see him win. I

898
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: really do. I can't predict it, just because this isn't

899
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: a situation where you can feel particularly good about it.

900
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: And now the momentum is against him because of how

901
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: the round ends, So how he starts tomorrow. He didn't

902
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: start great in this round today, but how he starts

903
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: tomorrow could dictate what he's gonna do, because this is

904
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: a guy who again has struggled as of real recently

905
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: with his own confidence. So I am it's gonna be

906
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: great stuff on Father's Day. It is. And the one

907
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: thing about the US Open on Father's Day where it

908
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: usually does come to a close is a lot of

909
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: times it is played late. A lot of times that

910
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: final round doesn't end until almost eight o'clock Eastern, sometimes

911
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: even eight Central. This thing tomorrow night is gonna blow

912
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: past people's bedtimes to get to the finish line. And

913
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: I'm all for it. Quite frankly, because it just it

914
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: changes the trajectory of what I can do in the afternoon.

915
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: I can watch the Braves and I can tune in

916
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: and watch final round the US Open. I'm good with this.

917
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: Do you know when when the I know, like the

918
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: final group didn't t off till about six o'clock Eastern

919
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: time today, I have to assume it's a little earlier tomorrow.

920
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say so. I mean, I assume that

921
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: they're gonna be done by nine Eastern time. That's just

922
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: a guess. I think that you will be done by

923
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: about eight o'clock instead of ten o'clock my time here

924
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: in Central time zone in Nashville. I'd say probably two

925
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 3: hours earlier than it finished wherever you happen to be.

926
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: I imagine it's done.

927
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, fantastic, really quickly. So I think most people know,

928
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: but you know I do. I am one of the

929
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports radio employees that does here live here in

930
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and in the lead up to the event

931
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: this week, you know, obviously it was big news even

932
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: you know Monday into Tuesday and Wednesday with all the

933
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: practice rounds, and you know, my wife has on the

934
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: local news in the mornings when she's getting ready for

935
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: work and you know, she's asking me how big of

936
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: a deal this is?

937
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 4: All that?

938
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: But why I bring it up was a lot of

939
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: the local news coverage entered around you know, you know,

940
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: it's a huge event, great for Los Angeles, blah blah

941
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, but it comes amid a very dark

942
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: backdrop with and they were essentially confirmed, you know, talking

943
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: about the live golf merger outside of LA. I don't

944
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: know if if it's the local newscast trying to play

945
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: it up or whatever. Has that Was that really a

946
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: big topic coming in because I kind of got the

947
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: sense like, Okay, you know this happened two three weeks ago.

948
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean, even guys like Ry McElroy just like I'm

949
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: kind of done talking about it. Have you gotten the

950
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: sense that either one the live golf merger has either

951
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: overshadowed or become a concurrent story. I don't feel like

952
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: it has been much of the coverage if at all?

953
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 4: Am I wrong on that? Jason?

954
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: No? I think in the lead up it was it

955
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: was kind of hyped like it was gonna be a thing,

956
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: and then it really hasn't been a thing. John Rahm

957
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: interesting comments with him saying he felt betrayed, and you

958
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 3: had Rar who still wasn't happy with how things had gone,

959
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: and the story had just kind of evolved. And yes,

960
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: there have been a lot of editorializing being done on

961
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: national media and things like that. But ultimately, and I

962
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: said this last week with Arnie, like I've definitely got

963
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: my problems with the merger. I've certainly got problems with

964
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: Saudi blood money and all the other stuff that comes

965
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: surrounding this. As a sports fan, I'm thrilled about this

966
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: because I just want to see the best competitors together.

967
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: I want to see a unified group of golfers that

968
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: I know are the best in the world representing You

969
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: just couldn't splinter away and have a guy like Brooks

970
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: Kopka not playing on your tour. If you were the

971
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 3: PGA once he won that Wannamaker Trophy and won the

972
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: PGA Championship, it was just a matter of time. But

973
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: you didn't have DJ, you didn't have Phil, you didn't

974
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 3: have and they were gonna get more. That's the thing.

975
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to excuse what PGA did by any

976
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: stretch of the imagination. What they said a year ago,

977
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: even though they look like hypocrites now, what they said

978
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: a year ago is what you would say a year ago.

979
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: The problem for the PGA was they were not gonna

980
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: have the pockets to compete because LIV could just keep

981
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 3: throwing more and more money. Eventually, they're gonna find a price.

982
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 3: It's the million dollar man Ted Debassi syndrome. Everybody's got

983
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: a price. It's real easy to say, yeah, I would

984
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 3: have turned it down. They offered tiger Woods like nine

985
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars, folks, I've not ever been asked nine figures.

986
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: I'd love to think that my integrity would keep me

987
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 3: there and just say no, you can keep your money.

988
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: And maybe if they're offering me nine figures, I know

989
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot of money from somewhere else anyway,

990
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: and it would be easier to turn it down. But

991
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 3: they were just gonna keep throwing more money at guys.

992
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 3: If guys started to become stars on the PGA tour,

993
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 3: new guys that you hadn't heard of. Now they're starting

994
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 3: to win a lot of tournaments, what do you think

995
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: Liv's gonna do. They're gonna offer them money and see

996
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 3: who they can pick off. They're gonna continue to do this.

997
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: They were gonna bleed the PGA dry. The PGA was

998
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: already being bled dry just with court costs and everything else.

999
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: And it's gonna cost them over one hundred million dollars

1000
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: this whole story. I mean, the PGA eventually was gonna

1001
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: go bankrupt, just trying to stay afloat and trying to

1002
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 3: hang on to anything that they could. But I do

1003
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: think that as sports fans, we generally just want to

1004
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 3: see all these guys play. That's what we tune in for.

1005
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 3: I'm thrilled that we get that back. I hate some

1006
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: of the backdrop of all of this. I've got massive

1007
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: problems with all of it. And at the same time,

1008
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 3: it's just kind of like, it's not my situation where

1009
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: I had to make the decision, and this is a

1010
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: lot more complicated, I think than people have made it

1011
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: out to be.

1012
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said this last hour when we were talking

1013
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: about Bob Huggins.

1014
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: I'm not a moralist and I never I never.

1015
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: Really judged anybody that took the money because it's life

1016
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: changing money. And yeah, it's easy for Tiger Woods to

1017
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: turn down nine hundred million when you're worth a billion

1018
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's a lot harder for you know,

1019
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: Dustin Johnson or Brooks Koepka, who have made very good

1020
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: livelihoods in the PGA, but don't have generational wealth that's

1021
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: gonna set up your your children's children. So I have

1022
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: no problem with that. Let me ask you this. I

1023
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: really I'll say this, And I know it's a little

1024
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: bit of an outdated kind of conversation at this point,

1025
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: but I wasn't on air last week, so I haven't

1026
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 2: had time.

1027
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: One.

1028
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: I don't, you know, like like let me, let me,

1029
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 4: let me be backtrack.

1030
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: So conversations about you know, Jay Monahan, who runs the

1031
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: PGA tour. Listen, I don't think that him, you know,

1032
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 2: trying to rally people against Live this was now eight

1033
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: nine months ago, but trying to rally people against Live

1034
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: by using nine to eleven victims as kind of props

1035
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 2: in his game. I don't think that was the best move,

1036
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: especially considering that he has since taken the Saudi money himself.

1037
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 4: But I have a couple thoughts.

1038
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: One, you know, first of all, like this is so

1039
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: so I'm trying to contect everything and all that stuff.

1040
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: But why I bring it up? Roy McElroy even acknowledged

1041
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: for the future of golf, like this is the best

1042
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: for the golfers, right and so like yeah, so like

1043
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: that's where I'm kind of having trouble, like even being

1044
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: mad at Jay Monahan because like J Monahan, I don't

1045
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: like how he used nine to eleven survivors or families

1046
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: of nine to eleven as a prop in this game.

1047
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: But his job, like any other commissioner, is to look

1048
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: out for his constituents and make the most possible money

1049
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: for them that he can. So one, just the threat

1050
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: of live improved prize purses and things of that nature.

1051
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: But then two, you now have this new infusion of

1052
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: money from the Saudis and the PIF that is now

1053
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: going to make golfers richer than they ever have. So like,

1054
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: I guess the point I'm trying to make is like

1055
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: I get that it's not the perfect way in which

1056
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: anybody would have liked for an infusion of money to

1057
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: come in, But I also like, I don't know, I

1058
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: guess I'm just not as like fired up about you know,

1059
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: the Kopka's and the Phills and those guys were turning

1060
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: to the tour and I'm not even that fired up

1061
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: about the PGA after all of the negativity then taking

1062
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: the Saudi money either because it's what they needed to

1063
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: do to survive, and it ends up being the best

1064
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: for golf in the long run.

1065
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: So when you say fired up, you don't mean angry,

1066
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: you mean excited, or you mean you mean angry, you

1067
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: don't mean excited. You're not saying you're not fired up

1068
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 3: to see Koepka and DJ and these guys back. We're

1069
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: playing golf. You are excited about that. You're just not

1070
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: like you're not clutching your pearls over this whole thing.

1071
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not clutching my pearls that like in a

1072
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: perfect world, yes, you don't want to take this money,

1073
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: but as you said, the endgame was potentially the PGA

1074
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: Tour not existing or certainly not as we know it.

1075
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 2: And then two, the other endgame is golfers are going

1076
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: to make more money than they ever have before. And

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00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: so I don't know, I just, yeah, I'm not fired

1078
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 2: up of the perspective of you know, I'll never watch

1079
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: golf again, or j I'm not I'll tak it even

1080
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: to this step. I'm not even like Jay Monahan needs

1081
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: to be fired and he has like, yeah, his players

1082
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: are pissed off at him, but at the end of

1083
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: the day, his job is to make the most money

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00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: possible for his players, which is exactly what he just did.

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00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean again, he is a hypocrite because he

1086
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 3: said one thing, he ended up doing something different. But

1087
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: information changed and things changed during that year. And again

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00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 3: what he said a year ago was the same take

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00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: that I had. And then he came back and he

1090
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 3: was kind of like, yeah, you know, we can't compete

1091
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: here in terms of the money. We just can't, and

1092
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: so we're gonna have to do this. The one good

1093
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 3: that has clearly come out of this is the actual golfers,

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00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 3: the ones that should have some power here because they're

1095
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 3: the ones that draw the television numbers if anybody does.

1096
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: They're the ones who actually go out and do the

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00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 3: thing that we watch. They now have more power than

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00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 3: they've maybe ever had, and that's a good thing. The PGA,

1099
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 3: in the way it was run, some of the critiques

1100
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: that Mickelson leveled before Live started, there was some legitimacy there.

1101
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: He might not have been the perfect messenger for, but

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00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 3: there was some legitimacy there. Now, as you mentioned there's

1103
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: more money, there's bigger purses. They've had to step up

1104
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 3: to the plate as a result of that, but they

1105
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: also kind of have to concede some other things and

1106
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 3: give the golfers a little bit more their quality of life.

1107
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: These are definitely quality of life improvements when it comes

1108
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: to the actual competitors, those that are the stars, so

1109
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: to speak, of the tour, and that's a good thing. Now,

1110
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 3: everything surrounding this, again, there are clearly problems here and

1111
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 3: things that we wish were not the case. We can

1112
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: only evaluate it based on the product that we're now

1113
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: going to get, and the product that we are going

1114
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 3: to get as a result of this might be the

1115
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: best product that is possible to get from this sport

1116
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: may not be as highly rated as it's ever been

1117
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 3: because there's not a Tiger Woods in the mix right now,

1118
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: and there may never be another guy like him. There

1119
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 3: never was before, there may never well be again. But

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Speaker 3: the conditions for the golfers and the conditions for us

1121
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: as a sports watching public as consumers are going to

1122
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 3: be very good. We just have to kind of understand

1123
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: in the background that there are things about this that

1124
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 3: are kind of shady that we don't like. But here's

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00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: the thing, folks, I don't know where you shop, I

1126
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: don't know you know what you buy all that kind

1127
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: of stuff. There's a good chance that most of the

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Speaker 3: stuff that you consume, if you looked into the company,

1129
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: you would find stuff you don't like. That's not to

1130
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: excuse Live in the PGA. It's just to say that

1131
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: the reality is often a lot lot more complex, and

1132
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 3: there's a lot of truth to the idea that ignorance

1133
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 3: is bliss.

1134
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: Roy McElroy, who of course was very outspoken about Live

1135
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: ten year contract with Nike. You know, we know some

1136
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: of their human rights abuses. And I would add, oh,

1137
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: by the way, way, keep in mind that the NBA

1138
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: has played games in the United Bear memorates Qatar just

1139
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: hosted the most recent World Cup. So and that's again

1140
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: to wrap where I'm at on this is that you know,

1141
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: you don't have to love it. But again, if you

1142
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: want to be a moralist, you could pretty much pick

1143
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: apart any athlete, any league, any entertainment enterprise, whatever. And

1144
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: to your point, we now get all the best golfers

1145
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: at all the stops together, and that's good for golf.

1146
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Eratorris Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live

1147
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,160
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Speaker 2: and save at Progressive dot Com. Coming up, we turn

1152
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: our attention to the NFL. One wide receiver appears to

1153
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: be unhappy, another one looking for a new home.

1154
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 4: We discuss them both.

1155
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: Next.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio Welcome back every Ready.

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00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Erra Torres, Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

1158
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: the Tirec dot Com studios and Jason, this felt like

1159
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: the first week in a while. I don't know if

1160
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: it's just because the NBA Finals were going on and

1161
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: so maybe we just haven't been paying as much attention

1162
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: to some NFL stuff, but this felt like the first

1163
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: week in a while where we actually got some actual

1164
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: relevant news out of the National Football League. Do you

1165
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 2: want to start with probably the bigger story of the week,

1166
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs. I think by now everybody kind of knows

1167
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: the deal did not report to mandatory mini camp earlier

1168
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: in the week. He did eventually show up, but even

1169
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: in the process of not showing up, there were some

1170
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: interesting comments from Sean McDermott saying that he was concerned

1171
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: Josh Allen basically essentially saying, you know, I need to

1172
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Speaker 2: do a better job of helping him through whatever he's

1173
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: going through, and I need to be there for him.

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Speaker 4: Did you get the sense, Jason?

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00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: And again, I know this is a lot of stuff

1176
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 2: that you talked about filling in last night for Bernie Fratto.

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00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: What do you make of what's going on in Buffalo?

1178
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: Because I'll tell you, man, it was a weird ending

1179
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: to the season. If you remember, of course, Defon Diggs

1180
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 2: got into it on the sidelines with some people. Now

1181
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: he does not report on time to training to mini camp.

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00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: Excuse me, what'd you make of what's going on in

1183
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: Buffalo this week?

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00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we know exactly what it is now.

1185
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: I mean I think that if you actually look and

1186
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: listen to the comments that were made by McDermott and Allen,

1187
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: they kind of give it away. So I'm gonna read

1188
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: a couple of quotes to you here and then I'm

1189
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 3: gonna ask you what you would say your conclusion would

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Speaker 3: be from those comments you mentioned. First he said, you know,

1191
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 3: we were very concerned that was the original thing. Then

1192
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: you had what Josh Allen said, and then you have

1193
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 3: McDermott again saying, I think it was on Wednesday. There

1194
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: are a lot of things out there that aren't accurate.

1195
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 3: He was here on Monday for his physical, reported for meetings,

1196
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: had a good conversation, and then we got to a

1197
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 3: point yesterday where we felt we all needed a break.

1198
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: Gave him and I gave him permission. He was excused.

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Speaker 3: Then they canceled the final day of mini camp practice,

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01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 3: which is a thing that does happen a lot with teams.

1201
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: They end up doing building exercise, go golf or do

1202
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: some bowling or some kind of event or something like that.

1203
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 3: And then, of course you remember as you just talked

1204
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: about Josh Allen saying there's things that I can do better.

1205
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: And then McDermott added this, getting Steph the ball is

1206
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: a big piece of our offense. He's the big focal

1207
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: point in addition to Josh. It's important to get him going.

1208
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 3: The more production he has, the more production we have

1209
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: as an offense. He provides great energy to our team,

1210
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 3: so point one, Josh Allen saying there are things that

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Speaker 3: I need to do better in relation to Stefan Diggs,

1212
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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott saying, we had a good conversation and got

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Speaker 3: to a point where we just needed a break, and

1214
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Speaker 3: so I dismissed him, let him go home. And then

1215
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Speaker 3: there is getting Steph. The ball is a big piece

1216
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 3: of our offense. He provided, it's great energy. The more

1217
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Speaker 3: production he has, the more production we have as an offense. So,

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Speaker 3: Sleuth Torres, what do you think this is? Because I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty sure I.

1220
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Speaker 4: Know well Lanami what he got.

1221
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 3: He wants to be used more as a wide receiver

1222
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: in the Buffalo Bills offense because he really really is

1223
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: one of those dog kind of competitors and he wants

1224
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,479
Speaker 3: to win badly. And even though I hate this term,

1225
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: and you know this, if there's a championship window in Buffalo,

1226
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: it's getting smaller year by year by year by year.

1227
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 3: And this we already know going into this year. I

1228
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: think Sean McDermott's got some pressure on him. Getting to

1229
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 3: the playoffs ain't enough. It's just not Josh Allen's on

1230
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 3: the front of Madden this year. Last year was all

1231
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: about the Bills leading into the season. They did not

1232
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 3: make the Super Bowl yet again. Here's some stats from

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01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: SB Nation through Buffalo's first eleven games last year. Double

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01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 3: digit targets for Stefan Diggs in seven of those games.

1235
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: He got fifteen in the win over the Lions on

1236
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day and then didn't see double digit targets again

1237
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 3: until Week eighteen over New England. He got nine targets

1238
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: against the Dolphins in the wildcard game. He got ten

1239
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: against the Bengals, but only caught four for thirty five.

1240
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 3: And you can go find this. They caught him on

1241
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: the sidelines on television, not happy about it at all.

1242
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: And I think that's what this is. And you know what,

1243
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 3: I'm cool with it. I think Josh Allen's cool with it.

1244
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 3: I think McDermott's too cool with it, because we have

1245
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 3: discussed this over and over and over again on this program.

1246
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: It's a point we've beaten into the ground. You've got

1247
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: to have a true wide receiver, one that you can

1248
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 3: get the football too, if you want to really be

1249
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: a championship level football team. And they have the guy.

1250
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 3: What was Josh Allen before Stefan Diggs got there? He

1251
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 3: was growing, but Steffan Diggs took him over the top.

1252
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: Jaywhen Hurts, they gave him AJ Brown. He goes to

1253
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 3: the super Bowl, he's he's a star. But what's been

1254
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 3: the concern for Lamar Jackson? He's never had that guy?

1255
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 3: Maybe he'll get him this year, right, But I think

1256
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 3: that's it and I look at it. I'm just like,

1257
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 3: I kind of feel Steffan Diggs on this, Like I

1258
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: kind of agree with Stefan Diggs on this. That dude

1259
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: is that good and he finds a way to be

1260
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 3: open despite his size all the time. What happened here

1261
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 3: and for Allen to say there are things I can

1262
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 3: do better, I think he basically just had a you know,

1263
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 3: a meeting where he was just like, hey, Josh, you're

1264
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 3: my best friend, man, but you gotta get me the

1265
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: ball more because I want to win and throwing it

1266
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 3: all over the place when when you could be doing

1267
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 3: more with me. That bothers me as somebody that wants

1268
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 3: to win. And I'm okay with that.

1269
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 4: Tell you what you said a lot there. I want

1270
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 4: to react to all of it.

1271
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Speaker 2: We're gonna do that next before we do though, News

1272
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: desk to Sega, what is trending my friend.

1273
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 5: Hello gentleman, and the co leaders at the US Open

1274
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 5: will be teeing off in the final round tomorrow at

1275
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 5: five thirty pm Eastern Time. Network coverage due to go

1276
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 5: to ten pm Eastern time. LA Country Club is the

1277
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 5: host of the major this weekend, and a guy who's

1278
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 5: never won a major but is from southern California is

1279
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 5: co leader. Ricky Fowler tied for the lead with fellow

1280
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 5: American Wyndham Clark. Rory McElroy as one shot back. Scottie

1281
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 5: Scheffler is three back after a third round sixty eight tonight.

1282
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 5: Dustin Johnson and Xander Schaffley five back. John Rom barely

1283
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 5: made the cut after a second round seventy three. He's

1284
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 5: now three over par. Not seeing Phil Nicholson this weekend.

1285
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 5: At three over, he just missed the cut yesterday, as

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Speaker 5: did Jordan Speath. Jason Day was nine over. Justin Thomas

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Speaker 5: finished fourteen over par. West Virginia basketball coach Bob Huggins

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Speaker 5: has resigned after being arrested for duy last night. He

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Speaker 5: had a drunk driving arrest at Cincinnati coach in two

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Speaker 5: thousand and four. His blood alcohol content was more than

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Speaker 5: twice the legal limit. In this latest arrest, Huggins was

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Speaker 5: int into the Basketball Hall of Fame just last year.

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Speaker 5: An officer said they found garbage bags with empty beer

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Speaker 5: containers inside huggins car and in the trunk last night.

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Speaker 5: The Vegas Golden Knights have had their victory parade on

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Speaker 5: the Strip tonight. US Men's soccer plays in Las Vegas

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Speaker 5: Sunday night against Canada in the final of the Nation's

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Speaker 5: League Tournament. The USFL regular season ends tomorrow on FS

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Speaker 5: one and Fox NASCAR is off tomorrow. Happy Father's Day

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Speaker 5: to Major League Baseball Yankees at Red Sox rained out.

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Speaker 5: They'll play a doubleheader tomorrow so on Fox TV. This

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Speaker 5: evening from San Diego, the Padres shut out Tampa Bay

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Speaker 5: two nothing. Rays came in not only with a three

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Speaker 5: game winning streak, but the beest record in the majors

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Speaker 5: fifty one and twenty two. Blake Snellx of Tampa Bay

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Speaker 5: modem down with six scoreless innings and twelve strikeouts. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: the Giants are going for their six straight win San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: Their last two games have come back to win despite

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Speaker 5: trailing by at least three in each. No such comeback

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Speaker 5: needed Tonight it's Giants fifteen nothing over the Dodge in LA.

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Speaker 5: They've just started the bottom of the ninth inning. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: the best team in the NL West is playing on

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Speaker 5: FS one right now from Arizona. It's the Diamondbacks in Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: Tied at two. Bottom of the sixth inning, Saint Louis

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Speaker 5: sent the Mets to another loss, five to three. Atlanta

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Speaker 5: won its fifth game in a row, beating Colorado ten

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Speaker 5: to two. Cubs won their fifth game in a row,

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Speaker 5: three to two over Baltimore. Philadelphia won its fifth game

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Speaker 5: in a row, a twelve inning win at Oakland three

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Speaker 5: to two. The A's record nineteen and fifty four Kansas

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Speaker 5: City nineteen and fifty one, but did come back to

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Speaker 5: win over the Angels today on FS one, ten to nine.

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Speaker 5: The final Royals in the last three inning scored eight runs.

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Speaker 5: Kansas City ends a ten game losing streak at the

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Speaker 5: College World Series. Number one Wake Forest scored two runs

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Speaker 5: in the bottom of the eighth to beat Stanford three

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Speaker 5: to two. Then LSU defeated Tennessee six to three.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve the Sega,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday. Eric Torris Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcast live from theti iraq dot com studios. By the way, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I know you're a doting father. Sounds like your daughter

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Speaker 2: might have to put her herself to bed tomorrow. Now,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna be watching some golf man five thirty tea time,

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Speaker 2: so that's four thirty for you, so they should be

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Speaker 2: wrapping up what about eight thirty Central time?

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean dependent upon you know, how long some of

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Speaker 3: these rounds take, and if there's any kind of unforeseen stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be going into the evening and that's cool.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you erin as a doting father, as

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Speaker 3: you said, she's too, So Father's Day is still Claire

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Speaker 3: Grace's Day. True. If she permits me, I might get

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Speaker 3: a little video gaming in tomorrow. I'm back in school now,

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01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 3: so yeah, I've got a lot of stuff there. But

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Speaker 3: maybe I'll take tomorrow off and then you know, you've

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 3: got the golf, and I would like to think that

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Speaker 3: we can do that, but I have a feeling I'm

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01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 3: also gonna be, you know, chasing her around and all

1350
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 3: those kinds of things while trying to watch the golf.

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01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 3: At some point, you realize when you have a child,

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01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 3: your life basically doesn't belong to you anymore.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: And that's just kind of the way that that goes.

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Speaker 3: So I look forward to whatever time she permits me.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, the fact that I'm a father,

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Speaker 3: I don't care about having a day to celebrate that.

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01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 3: It's celebration every time I see a smile on her face.

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Speaker 2: All right, by the way, Happy Father's Day to all

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Speaker 2: of the fathers out there. It's closing in on midnight

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Speaker 2: Eastern time, so it will be officially Father's Day on

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Speaker 2: the East coast here in just a few minutes. Father's

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Speaker 2: Day in Nova Scotia right now, by the way, which

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Speaker 2: is one hour ahead of the East coast. Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Aeron Torris, Jason Martin. All right, so Stefan Diggs,

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01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. So everything you said I agree with one

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: thousand percent is that he wants the ball more, he

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01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 2: wants impact more, and like it was just weird last year.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that stands out to me is

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Speaker 2: that we all focus on the playoff loss. Let me

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01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: let me even say this, that was honestly now, the

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Speaker 2: more that time goes by, that was just one of

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Speaker 2: the strangest playoff losses that I can ever remember, Because

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Speaker 2: there are times where teams are inferior, where just the

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Speaker 2: better team wins. You know, case was probably just the

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Speaker 2: better team against Cincinnati. There are times where something weird happens,

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01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: like San Francisco with Brock Purdy, it's Jason. It's just

1378
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 2: not often that a home team that has worked all

1379
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 2: year to get home field advantage.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know there was the unfortunate, nearly tragic DeMar Hamlin

1382
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 2: situation which kind of threw those playoff seedings into a

1383
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 2: loop late in the year. When is the last time

1384
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: that a team that you remember Maybe maybe there's great

1385
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: examples that I just can't think of, just completely just

1386
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: lay down at home in a playoff GA I don't

1387
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Speaker 2: really remember a lot of them. I mean, even if

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Speaker 2: you go back two years ago when Cincinnati went to

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Speaker 2: case and beat case at Arrowhead, like Casey was up whatever,

1390
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty four nothing, something like that Buffalo they

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01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: laid down the week before, they very easily could have

1392
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Speaker 2: lost to Skuyler Thompson and the Miami Dolphins. So the

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Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs situation this week, to me, is just a

1394
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: metaphor for like, there's just something not right there, and

1395
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: you can win a lot of games of the regular season,

1396
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Speaker 2: it could be covered up. But you look at how

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01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: the season ended, the weird playoff win the week before

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Speaker 2: where they had to survive Skyler Thompson and the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I know it's cliche, and I know

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01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,839
Speaker 2: everybody in our business. As we start to get into

1401
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: NFL preview stuff, I think most people have the same

1402
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: opinion on the Bills, but I'm with that opinion. Sometimes

1403
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,919
Speaker 2: I think mainstream opinions they get oversaturated. I'm with everybody

1404
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: that says there's something weird in Buffalo right now. It's

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01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: kind of shown me and I'm not sold that this

1406
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: team is going to continue on that upward trajectory.

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01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 3: I mean, the pressure on them is enormous this year,

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01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 3: on all of them. Again, you put Allen on the

1409
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 3: front of Madden. McDermott has gotten them close. But eventually,

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01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 3: if that's the ceiling, then a lot of times you

1411
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 3: bring somebody else in. I mean, look what just happened

1412
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 3: in the NBA. I mean, Monny Williams didn't win a championship,

1413
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 3: but he got them further than has Sean McDermott with

1414
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: the bills. You think about all of that, and now

1415
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 3: you've got Digs and the situation with Diggs again. Allen added,

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Speaker 3: I'm reading this from USA today, said I know everybody

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Speaker 3: in our locker room loves Diggs, and I don't think

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01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna see this as anything different other than a

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01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 3: guy that wants to win and somebody that we need

1420
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 3: to incorporate a little bit better in what we're doing here.

1421
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: And I got no doubt we will. We know exactly

1422
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 3: what this is. Stefan Diggs said, Hey, I'm getting killed

1423
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 3: out here. I'm getting doubled up. Nobody's doing anything about it,

1424
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 3: and Josh, you're just not finding me the way that

1425
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 3: you need to. I want to win a super Bowl

1426
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 3: with you guys, and we're good enough to do it.

1427
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: And I know that there's ego in that, but Stefan

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01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: Diggs is that good. Steffan Diggs has the right to

1429
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: say that because he's been so instrumental to their success.

1430
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 3: I think that, and you said it, and I don't

1431
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 3: know that you realize you said it. I think the

1432
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 3: ultimate point is a lot of things get covered up

1433
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 3: when you're winning yep, a whole lot of things. But

1434
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 3: when you actually underperform or let down expectations, which finally

1435
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 3: were there for the Bills last year in terms of

1436
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 3: prohibitive favorite and all this stuff, then you start to

1437
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: see the cracks that were already there because people start

1438
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 3: talking yep, the lips get a little bit looser, and

1439
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 3: then the ship begins to take on a little bit

1440
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 3: of water. The Bills this year is crucial to their

1441
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 3: future because if it goes south this year, if they

1442
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 3: again underperform, or if they get leapfrog by another team

1443
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, or if they fall short again, the

1444
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 3: chorus will get louder on the outside. But the discontent

1445
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 3: internally is the thing that I am more concerned about,

1446
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,520
Speaker 3: because this thing could unravel in a hurry.

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01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: One minute or less. DeAndre Hopkins, do you think he

1448
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 2: ends up a Patriot, a Titan or something else?

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01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 3: I see, I originally had thought when I first saw

1450
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 3: he was available, I was just like, oh, well, Tennessee

1451
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: should go after him. He makes sense for them, and

1452
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 3: they need somebody else to go with Trailon Burke's didn't

1453
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 3: work with Julio, but this is a different animal. Although

1454
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 3: Hopkins has dealt with some injuries, and of course he's

1455
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 3: coming off the suspension, but he's coming out of the

1456
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray thing. But they don't Their quarterback situation is

1457
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 3: very untenable. The Patriots are not one receiver away from

1458
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,839
Speaker 3: competing in the AFC East. If Hopkins has a decision

1459
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 3: to make, I don't know why you would go there.

1460
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 3: I think I like mac Jones, but I think the

1461
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 3: ceiling is relatively low. I think he can be solid

1462
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 3: but not spectacular. If it were me and I had

1463
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 3: the option, i'd look at Baltimore or somebody like that.

1464
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 3: But I tend to think I don't know. He's gonna

1465
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 3: have a couple more visits. He probably ends up with

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01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 3: one of those two, but I don't know that that's

1467
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 3: a place where he's gonna win a Super Bowl. Yeah.

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01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: Even the reporting that came out this week says that

1469
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: he could take the decision pretty much up through training

1470
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: camp in July, so it doesn't appear as though anything

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Speaker 2: is imminent. Fox Sports Radio Ertorris Jason Martin coming up

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Speaker 2: a unique story out of baseball where one guy one

1473
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 2: team wants to honor one guy and he said thanks,

1474
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: but no thanks.

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01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 4: We explain next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Ertorris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

1477
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Speaker 2: Tireraq dot com studios. So Jason was driving around today

1478
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: running some errands, probably about four o'clock Eastern time, and

1479
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: I heard our good friends Bucky Brooks and Steve Hartman

1480
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 2: on the air, both really great guys, love working with

1481
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 2: each of them, and they we're talking about a story

1482
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 2: that I had not heard until they brought it up.

1483
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: Actually Matzi brought it up in her update and then

1484
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 2: they kind of spun off on it from there. Have

1485
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: you seen this David Freeze story?

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01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 3: And if not, yeah, as a matter of fact, I

1487
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 3: saw it yesterday.

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01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: Okay, let me explain really quick because this this blew

1489
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 2: my mind. So David Freese, iconic former Saint Louis Cardinal

1490
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: from the perspective of basically was the World Series MVP

1491
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: in two thoy eleven. The Saint Louis Cardinals are they

1492
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 2: announced their most recent Saint Louis Cardinals Hall of Fame class.

1493
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 2: David Freeze declined said, and I'm gonna directly quote him,

1494
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 2: but he basically said that he didn't feel as though

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Speaker 2: it was appropriate to be in the Saint Louis Cardinals

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01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. His exact quote is, this is something

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01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 2: I've given an extreme amount of thought to, humbly, even

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01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: before the voting process began. I am aware of the

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01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: impact I had on helping bring the team great memories

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01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 2: to the city I grew up, including the eleven championship.

1501
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: I feel strongly about my decision and understand how people

1502
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: might feel about this.

1503
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 4: I get it, I'll wear it.

1504
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 2: Thank you for always being there for me, and I

1505
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: understand I am excited to be around the Cardinals as

1506
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 2: we move forward. David Freese declining the Cardinals Hall of

1507
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: Fame invite, I guess he You know, in that statement

1508
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: he doesn't really say it, but you know, essentially it

1509
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: sounds as though he doesn't feel as though he.

1510
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 4: Is worthy of the honor. Very interesting story.

1511
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: Would you if Fox Sports Radio called you in thirty

1512
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: years and said we're putting you in the Fox Sports

1513
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 2: Radio Hall of Fame?

1514
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 4: I mean, you would be worthy.

1515
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: But would you ever would you if anyone tried to

1516
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: put you in your hall in their hall of fame,

1517
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 2: high school, college, Fox Sports Radio? Would you ever say

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01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: no to a hall of fame?

1519
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 4: Not even an invite. You're inducted.

1520
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 2: He's in, and he's just declining the right to show

1521
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: up and be acknowledged.

1522
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 3: This story is incredible because not just that. I mean

1523
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 3: he's a Missouri native. He's been a Cardinals fan his

1524
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 3: entire life. This means so much to him. Being able

1525
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 3: to play in Saint Louis meant so much to him,

1526
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 3: and he was a hero of that world series in

1527
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 3: twenty eleven. I would like to think I would do

1528
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 3: the exact same thing. It would be tough with all

1529
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 3: the circumstances surrounding it, but I don't think you can

1530
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 3: do anything here but just kind of be in awe

1531
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 3: of the humility of it to say, Man, I'm so

1532
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 3: grateful that the fans, you know, elected me in a

1533
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: landslide and all this, but I just don't feel comfortable

1534
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 3: doing this considering really and truly what he's really saying

1535
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: here is, you know that great moment that I had,

1536
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 3: That's not something you immortalize forever in your Hall of

1537
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 3: fame for an organization with the traditional level of the Cardinals.

1538
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 3: So I'm a Braves fan. Francisco Cabrera hit maybe one

1539
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 3: of the famous, one of the most famous hits in

1540
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 3: the franchise. Not going to say it's Tank Aaron, but

1541
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 3: it's it's right there.

1542
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 4: I don't eat baseball history.

1543
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's huge, right and Sid bream scores. Those

1544
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 3: two guys are not immortalized, you know, at Truest Park

1545
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 3: right now, David Tyree is not in the Giant's Ring

1546
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 3: of Honor, even though that catches one of the most

1547
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 3: important things that ever happened in the history of that franchise.

1548
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 3: David Freeze here is just saying, man, I the high

1549
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 3: that he had, the moment that he had, the David

1550
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 3: Freeze Game, as it's called. And it's not like he

1551
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 3: had a terrible career or anything. Had a fairly long career.

1552
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 3: He hit over two seventy. But this is a guy

1553
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,799
Speaker 3: who never had more than twenty home runs in a season,

1554
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 3: never had more than I think seventy five RBIs in

1555
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 3: a season something like that. He's just saying, you know,

1556
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 3: I love you guys, and I'm always going to support

1557
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 3: this organization. He threw out the first pitch at a

1558
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 3: Cardinals game back in twenty eleven or twenty twenty one.

1559
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 3: He loves all of this. I just think he's uncomfortable

1560
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 3: with it because he doesn't think he's a legend in

1561
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 3: that way. And one great performance and the recency bias

1562
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 3: that's sometimes a company that that shouldn't put you into

1563
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame. It's a very humble thing. Had

1564
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: he not turned it down, I don't think a whole

1565
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 3: lot of people would have wrung their hands have been

1566
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 3: upset about it. But doing this is so rare and

1567
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 3: it just shows a very genuine human being that understands

1568
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 3: his role and his place in history. And it's I'm

1569
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 3: in awe of it in a positive sense because it's

1570
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 3: an incredible thing and it's such a hard decision to make.

1571
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting earlier this week, and this kind

1572
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 2: of stemmed from another interesting conversation, which was that Jimmy Butler,

1573
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but I actually

1574
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: saw skipping Shannon on their final.

1575
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 4: Day together, did this as a topic.

1576
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: But I guess Jimmy Butler did an interview and they

1577
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 2: said something about the Hall of Fame and he basically said, yeah,

1578
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: I want to show up if I get inducted. I'm

1579
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 2: not showing up. You know, I'm a team guy. It's

1580
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: not about I'm never about me blah blah blah blah blah,

1581
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: this and that.

1582
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:55,919
Speaker 4: I just think it's really interesting.

1583
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's kind of like the live golf thing, right,

1584
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 2: Like you'd like to think that you would stand on

1585
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 2: your morals. Let's see what happens when somebody puts a

1586
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 2: check in front of you for nine you know, you know,

1587
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 2: nine figures, one hundred million, two hundred million, whatever. And

1588
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 2: it's kind of the same with this David Free story.

1589
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 2: Is is if I didn't feel like I was worthy,

1590
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: I guess I feel like I might say no, but

1591
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: I think realistically I would probably uh just accept the

1592
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 2: honor and be grateful for it. Fox Sports Radio ra

1593
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,879
Speaker 2: tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tirec dot Com studios.

1594
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 2: Coming up back to the NBA, Jahn Morant in Trouble Zion,

1595
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 2: who was drafted ahead of him. He's had an interesting

1596
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Speaker 2: week as well. We discussed next Fox Sports Ordio. Welcome man, everybody,

1597
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Speaker 2: our three tours and Martin. Fox Sports Radio. We are

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1605
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: to all the fathers out there, Happy Father's Day. Hope

1606
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Speaker 2: you guys get to enjoy your day with family and

1607
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 2: loved ones and all that good stuff. Jason, we led

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01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: the show, and I think this is probably where we

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01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: should start our three here as we reset halfway at

1610
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 2: the halfway point. By the way, Chris Plank filling in

1611
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 2: for Bernie Frattle, will be following us at two am

1612
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: Eastern time. Plank will join us next hour. Really excited

1613
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 2: to talk to him with the SEC football schedules coming

1614
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 2: out here over the last couple of days. So, Jason,

1615
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: we opened the show by talking JOA. Morant, and I

1616
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 2: know that the news is about you know, almost forty

1617
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 2: eight hours old at this point, but frankly biggest story

1618
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: in sports right now. So John Morant, I'm sure everybody knows.

1619
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 2: But of course Memphis Grizzly star a second incident in

1620
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: the last couple probably about the last month or so

1621
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 2: where he is caught on social media with a gun.

1622
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 2: His camp within the last week or so tried to

1623
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 2: claim that it was a fake gun. But the punishment

1624
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 2: does come down from the NBA. Yesterday, twenty five games

1625
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: is what John Morant has been suspended. You know, let's reset,

1626
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 2: let's read. I can ask a question real quick, it's

1627
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: all you, my man, go ahead.

1628
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 3: It's gonna be quick, just because you happen to just say,

1629
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 3: and I just want you to address this one too.

1630
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 3: Does it matter if it was a toy gun? Does

1631
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 3: it matter if it was a fake gun? If it was,

1632
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 3: then then there was even less of a reason to

1633
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 3: have been doing it, because it's almost like you're sticking

1634
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: it in the face of the NBA. Like, to me,

1635
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 3: that's the worst possible excuse that you could make, Like

1636
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's a fake gun. I'm not

1637
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 3: gonna be able to tell that in a social media post,

1638
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 3: nor is the nine year old that's watching, that's following

1639
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 3: you on Instagram or whatever else. Like the fact that

1640
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 3: it was real or fake. Okay, it was fake. You're

1641
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 3: still suspended for twenty five games. And I still think

1642
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 3: it should probably be more like I I just wonder,

1643
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,799
Speaker 3: like that's what you came up with. Well, that's the excuse.

1644
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 3: I don't think that it matters one iota in this case.

1645
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: Well, and to my point from the top of the show,

1646
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 2: and if anybody missed, you go back and download the podcast.

1647
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot of stuff and we have a

1648
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 2: lot of stuff left to cover. You know, this was

1649
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,839
Speaker 2: kind of my point to lead the show, is that listen,

1650
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: only John Morant knows if he's truly apologetic, if he's

1651
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: learned anything, if his behavior will change. None of us

1652
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 2: can speak for Ja Morant on that regard. What I

1653
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 2: do think though, is that John Morant, in his camp,

1654
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 2: whomever leaked that story, I do think it's sort of

1655
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 2: like he just doesn't get it, Like it wasn't a

1656
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: fake gun. You immediately acknowledge that, you apologize and you're

1657
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 2: gonna change and all that good stuff. But I think

1658
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,040
Speaker 2: that that kind of speaks to the fact that you

1659
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 2: don't understand the severity of your actions, how it makes

1660
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 2: the entire league look and all of that, and so

1661
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. No, I mean, listen, you're still waving a

1662
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 2: gun two months after you got caught on video. Waving

1663
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 2: it previously. That was when you went to therapy. You

1664
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 2: were suspended f eight games, and you claim that you

1665
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 2: were changed forever. So it really doesn't matter to be

1666
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: perfectly honest, and it really isn't an excuse, right like

1667
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: even let let's let's work under the actually, let me

1668
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 2: flip this on you.

1669
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:31,799
Speaker 4: Let's work under.

1670
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 2: The hypothetical that it was a fake gun. Let's say

1671
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: there was definitive proof. First of all, right away, by

1672
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 2: the way, you wouldn't wait two or three weeks to

1673
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 2: put that out if it was a fake gun. Like

1674
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: like right away, your PR team says, oh my goodness,

1675
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 2: he should have been on Instagram live. We understand the severity,

1676
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 2: we know what just happened two months ago, but it

1677
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 2: was a fake gun. They were goofing off whatever blah

1678
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 2: blah blah.

1679
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 4: This is and that.

1680
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 2: So if it was a fake gun. If it was

1681
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: a fake gun, then you wouldn't have waited a month

1682
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 2: or six weeks to make that claim. But I'm gonna

1683
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: flip it on you. If it was a fake gun,

1684
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: I would argue exactly what you just said, that he

1685
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 2: should still be suspended for stupidity because he had like

1686
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 2: at a certain point. I understand that you have not

1687
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 2: broken a law, that in this particular instance, you didn't

1688
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: even broke break the NBA's Code of conduct, But there

1689
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: is like a dummy tax that has to be applied

1690
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: here where it's like, even if it was a fake gun,

1691
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: it's like, dude, you have to be more self aware. One,

1692
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: because you just did this. You just claimed you were

1693
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 2: so apologetic. But then three, it's all of the things

1694
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 2: that we have talked about for the last two months.

1695
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 2: It looks bad for your entire league, it looks bad

1696
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: for all of your colleagues, it looks bad for you.

1697
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 4: So even if it was a fake gun, I.

1698
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: Still think it's worthy of a suspension just because it's

1699
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 2: so dumb.

1700
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 4: And so it's just so dumb.

1701
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 3: It's just so I think, I think, I mean, that's right,

1702
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 3: but I think it's actually almost worse because when you

1703
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 3: say it's a fake gun, you are implicitly acknowledging that

1704
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 3: having a real gun in that situation is unacceptable. Because

1705
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 3: you're trying to excuse it away by saying it wasn't

1706
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 3: even a real gun, that you realize the seriousness of

1707
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 3: having a real gun in that scenario. If it's a

1708
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 3: fake gun. And even if you come out of me

1709
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 3: you and say as a fake gun, we were goofing off.

1710
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 3: You were goofing off after what happened a couple of

1711
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 3: months ago, which then proves one you didn't learn your

1712
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 3: lesson from the first time, But two do you think

1713
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 3: you can do whatever you want that because the NBA

1714
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 3: showed no teeth and I joked last night, and it's

1715
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,440
Speaker 3: not a joking matter. But this is like pre Toddler

1716
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 3: situation where they don't even have three teeth in the

1717
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 3: way that they handled the first incident, they had gums.

1718
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 3: That was it. Now you can see a few teeth

1719
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 3: poking through here. But if you've got a toy gun,

1720
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 3: that means you're basically saying this ain't no big deal,

1721
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 3: and we all know that that's not true. But if

1722
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 3: you use it as an excuse, it's a catch twenty two.

1723
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 3: You look dumb either way, but you also look callous

1724
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 3: and you look like your judgment needs to be called

1725
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 3: into massive question immediately. The reason I ask does it

1726
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 3: matter if it's a fake gun is because it doesn't. One,

1727
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 3: you can never prove beyond a shadow of doubt it

1728
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 3: was you can't not, because as great as technology is,

1729
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 3: you can't just prove that that was a fake gun.

1730
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 3: The way that that video has played out, You could

1731
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 3: say it the next day and some people will always

1732
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 3: believe it was a real gun. And the second thing

1733
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 3: is unless you've got a disclaimer on the screen saying

1734
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 3: I'm a moron, this is a fake gun. I understand

1735
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 3: what I did two months ago. We're just having some

1736
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 3: fun here. Nine year olds, Please don't emulate my behavior.

1737
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 3: The nine or ten year old that's watching that video

1738
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 3: is not interested in whether or not they can buy

1739
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 3: that gun in the middle of a Nickelodeon show. It's

1740
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: not like a super soaker, you know, like that would

1741
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 3: be maybe a different story. Remember the Brandon Miller situation

1742
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 3: when he then came back on the floor and did

1743
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 3: that like weird, yeah, pregame deal, And people were up

1744
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 3: in arms about that because it was horrible judgment. I

1745
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,799
Speaker 3: don't care if he've done it all year, you couldn't

1746
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 3: do it. Then you have to understand the seriousness of

1747
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 3: your actions in that moment, and it just showed such

1748
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 3: judgment and just the fact that that's the excuse reveals

1749
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 3: you knew the real gun was gonna be a problem,

1750
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 3: but I would argue that the toy gun is just

1751
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 3: as much of a problem.

1752
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 2: It's an interesting thought, and I think all of this

1753
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: it just speaks to a lack of an awareness and

1754
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: I think, to me, this is why, and maybe I'm

1755
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: being biased or whatever, this is why I don't think

1756
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: the suspended. I don't think the suspension fits because at

1757
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: the end of the day one, I think there's just

1758
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 2: a lack of self awareness with this whole situation. And

1759
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: as we led the show, Jason, the exact term you

1760
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 2: used was it has to be a suspension that actually

1761
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: teaches John Morana point.

1762
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 4: And maybe twenty five games does.

1763
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: It, but maybe it doesn't like And I think I

1764
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 2: want to clarify for people who are driving around saying

1765
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 2: it ain't commit a crime. I didn't do this, you

1766
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 2: needn't do that. Like I said, there is a dummy

1767
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: tax that applies here. And I think it is worth

1768
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 2: noting that, as we've noted many times in this timeslot,

1769
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 2: you're you, whether you broke a law, whether you broke

1770
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,919
Speaker 2: the leagu's go to conduct. You do represent a multi

1771
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 2: billion dollar corporation. You are one of the faces of

1772
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 2: a multi billion dollar corporation, and even if no laws

1773
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 2: were broken, there is an accountability that you have to

1774
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 2: your employers. You know, I'll just I'll do the cliche example, right,

1775
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 2: But like, if I'm flashing a gun on social media,

1776
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not breaking a law, but I'm pretty sure

1777
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: that's not what our bosses want to see me doing.

1778
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 2: And I'm sure if it came up, if it got

1779
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: to our boss's attention, I don't think I'm important enough

1780
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: where most people would care, but if it was, my

1781
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 2: bosses would hear about it. I'll give you another example,

1782
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 2: and I saw this one. I forget who I think

1783
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 2: it was.

1784
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 3: Steven A.

1785
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Smith said this. I want to give him credit. It's

1786
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 2: kind of like the Paul Pierce situation that led to

1787
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 2: his firing at ESPN. If you remember again Instagram Live Again,

1788
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 2: there were scantily clad women in the background. There was

1789
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 2: no legality being broken on social media in that moment,

1790
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 2: but it made Paul Pierce look bad, it made his

1791
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 2: colleagues look bad, it made his employer look bad, and

1792
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: his employer made the decision, you know what, we don't

1793
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 2: want this guy representing our company anymore. And so that's

1794
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: the part that people have to understand with John Morant,

1795
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 2: it's not just a black and white did you break

1796
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 2: the law?

1797
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 4: Did you not?

1798
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 2: You are a representative for a major, major, major international

1799
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 2: corporation worth billions of dollars, and your major bosses look

1800
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 2: bad you made Now I'll also say this, I think

1801
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 2: his own bosses look even worse because I don't think

1802
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 2: they were tough enough on him. I think for the

1803
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 2: million time in the last ten years, Adam Silver had

1804
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 2: no backbone.

1805
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 4: But it is what it is.

1806
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 2: But that to me is I think what's important to

1807
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 2: note here is I know we're gonna get the tweets

1808
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 2: and people driving around, Oh ye, don't.

1809
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 4: Break a blah blahhah. You work for a multi billion

1810
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 4: dollar corporation.

1811
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 2: There is a code of ethics that you have to

1812
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 2: carry yourself with when you're technically on the job, if you.

1813
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 3: Will, I would also say, and then we can shift

1814
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 3: gears to put a bow on this in a different way.

1815
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 3: But I would also suggest that John Morant is lucky

1816
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 3: that his name is Jah Morant and it's not Steve Moran,

1817
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 3: because if this were just some bench rotation player, we

1818
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 3: might never see him again. Call you the fact that

1819
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 3: Jah Morant holds the stature that he does in the NBA,

1820
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 3: the star power that he wields, the endorsements, what he

1821
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 3: can mean for the future of the league means that

1822
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 3: his leash is longer than a role player on a

1823
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 3: nothing team that doesn't matter that does the same thing.

1824
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 3: The story is not leading our show, it's not leading

1825
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 3: any show, but that dude's out for the year, maybe

1826
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 3: the first time, but he's definitely out for the year

1827
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: the second time. And they'd used the precedent of Javaris

1828
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 3: Crittenden and Gilbert Arenas and all of these other kinds

1829
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 3: of things. But yeah, you're right. It is about how

1830
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 3: you come across. When you're an ambassador of a league,

1831
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 3: you do reflect them, you do affect and so depending

1832
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 3: on the company, you affect their stock, you affect all

1833
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 3: of those things. You affect the people that are invested.

1834
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 3: You certainly infect all of your colleagues and everybody else

1835
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 3: to that degree. But here's the way that I think

1836
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 3: we need to put the bow on this story again,

1837
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 3: and this I don't think the people that are in

1838
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 3: their cars that you have mentioned a couple of times

1839
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 3: hypothetically that would disagree because of crime as I've been

1840
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 3: committed and all this other kind of stuff. I think

1841
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 3: we can all come together on this. We want to

1842
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 3: see joh get past this and go have the Hall

1843
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 3: of Fame career he might have. We want to see

1844
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 3: him do things in the community, in the country for

1845
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 3: youngsters that look up to him. We want to see

1846
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 3: not just a happy ending, but we want to offer

1847
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 3: him grace and we want to see him then turn

1848
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 3: that into an inspirational, encouraging, motivating story for America because

1849
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 3: again I think it bears repeating, we will be here

1850
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 3: for that redemption arc. We love that redemption arc. We're

1851
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 3: here for the fall, and we have to sit here

1852
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 3: and we have to cover the fall, and we have

1853
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 3: to objectively look at a twenty five game suspension and say,

1854
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 3: isn't enough. Will he learn his lesson? And honestly, it's

1855
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 3: not just to punish him for what he's done done.

1856
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 3: It's because we know what he's capable of, and we

1857
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 3: want to actually see the change. We want to feel

1858
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,679
Speaker 3: that heart change, and we want to see John Morant

1859
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 3: who's got a platform and he's got an ability to

1860
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 3: relate to youth that we're never going to have. We

1861
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 3: want to see that flipped and turn for good. And

1862
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 3: I think that Jaw twenty years from now would say

1863
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 3: the exact same thing when he's able to look back

1864
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 3: on it with more experience. The idea that we're afraid of,

1865
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 3: you know, Adam Silver making the comment about Jaw and

1866
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 3: kids emulating John Morant and what that all means, and

1867
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 3: that's a that's painful to even see, right it says

1868
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 3: the potential for other young people to emulate Jaw's conduct

1869
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 3: is particularly concerning. That's one of the lines from Adam Silver.

1870
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 3: And this is what I said last night. I said, joh,

1871
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 3: you have the ability to change that last word in

1872
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 3: that sentence, and that's what we're all here for. Imagine

1873
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 3: if instead of Adam Silver saying this, or you could

1874
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 3: even think this in your own head, it was the

1875
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 3: potential for other young people to emulate Jaw's conduct is

1876
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 3: particularly concerning. All of a sudden became the potential for

1877
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 3: other young people to emulate Jaw's conduct is particularly amazing,

1878
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 3: is particularly incredible, is particularly inspiring. He has the opportunity, Aaron,

1879
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 3: to do just that, and just imagine the impact he

1880
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 3: could have. And even if this story plays out this way,

1881
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 3: if he overcomes this, that's gonna be inspirational in its

1882
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 3: own way. But just think of the good that Jaw

1883
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 3: could do from the platform that he possesses, from the perch,

1884
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 3: from the level of fame and stardom that he possesses.

1885
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 3: The reason we're talking about this to lead hour one

1886
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 3: an hour three of this program, the reason I led

1887
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 3: two of three hours of my show last night with

1888
01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 3: this same thing is because I think ultimately we want

1889
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 3: to see this end happily. And unfortunately, right now we're

1890
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 3: in the midst of the uncertainty, and that's the worst

1891
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 3: place to be because right now we're in that feeling

1892
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 3: of doubt and will he learn his lesson? And what

1893
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 3: did the NBA do wrong? And all this? And the

1894
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 3: reason we care is because we we want to see

1895
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 3: the best for this young man.

1896
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not even at the I want to see

1897
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 2: him become a pillar of the community and a hero,

1898
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 2: and like, I just want him to realize the severity

1899
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 2: of his actions before something bad happens, like that if

1900
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 2: we could start there, sure, and then five years from

1901
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 2: now we get to Okay, he's winning Citizen of the

1902
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 2: Year awards and all that stuff. Okay, cool, because like

1903
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 2: I I think like we have to get to like

1904
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 2: there are steps in the journey, agreed to whatever. And

1905
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 2: I'll just wrap by saying I don't disagree with what

1906
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 2: you're saying, like I would love to be ten years

1907
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 2: for you know, three four, five years from now, you

1908
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 2: and I are in this time slot and we're talking

1909
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 2: about Oh, John Morant just won the Citizen of the

1910
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: Year award.

1911
01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 4: In the NBA.

1912
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 2: But I think there are steps before we even get there,

1913
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 2: And the first one is just him actually realizing just

1914
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 2: how serious this is again before he hurts himself, before

1915
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 2: he hurts somebody else. Fox Sports Radio Ertors, Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, John Morant, number two pick in that draft

1922
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Speaker 2: is the number one pick in the draft.

1923
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Speaker 4: On the move.

1924
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Speaker 2: In that same draft, I should say, on the move, Yes,

1925
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Speaker 2: we'll be talking Zion Williamson.

1926
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Speaker 4: That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

1927
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio Ertors, Jason Martin broadcasting

1928
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Speaker 2: live from the Tairaq dot Com studios. Happy Father's Day

1929
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Speaker 2: to all the fathers out there on the East Coast.

1930
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Speaker 4: It is after midnight on the East Coast.

1931
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Speaker 2: So Jason, we obviously just spend a lot of time

1932
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Speaker 2: talk about John Morant, number two pick in the twenty

1933
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Speaker 2: nineteen NBA draft.

1934
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Speaker 4: That's draft shaping up to be a little bit of

1935
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Speaker 4: a doozy.

1936
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Speaker 3: R J. Barrett who we talking DeAndre Hunter, Kobe White,

1937
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 3: Cam Reddish, PJ. Washington, Tyler Hero and Ruiy Hashima. Okay,

1938
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Speaker 3: number nine pick to the Wizards. Of course, now with

1939
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 3: the Lakers, which one of those guys are we talking

1940
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 3: about here?

1941
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Speaker 2: Well, we'll save the Rui Hachimoor talk for hour five.

1942
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 2: We can just talk about that on the phone, you

1943
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 2: and I later. I want to talk about the number

1944
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Speaker 2: one pick, Zion Williamson.

1945
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot about him.

1946
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course you forgot about him. He never plays.

1947
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 2: Everyone's forgotten about him. Well, I mean maybe not now

1948
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 2: he's been in the news quite a bit the last

1949
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:38,719
Speaker 2: couple of days.

1950
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Speaker 4: We'll leave his personal.

1951
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 2: Stuff aside, although that is the juicy stuff that there's

1952
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 2: a lot of interesting stuff you gotta be careful who

1953
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 2: you hang out with, because there's some people putting out

1954
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:51,679
Speaker 2: some dirty laundry about Zion right now.

1955
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Speaker 4: You could google all that.

1956
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 2: But there was some interesting reports this week basically implying

1957
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:02,839
Speaker 2: that like Zion Williamson might be available via trade. Mark Stein,

1958
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 2: previously of ESPN, I think he kind of only you know,

1959
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:08,719
Speaker 2: does the sub stack now, but he's a great reporter,

1960
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 2: basically said that there could be interested in trading into

1961
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 2: the top two of the NBA draft, or not the

1962
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 2: top two, but the number two or number three spot.

1963
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 2: It seems as though they covet Scoot Henderson, who's projected

1964
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 2: to go either second or third overall in the draft.

1965
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 2: And then Brian Winhorse basically kind of confirmed that story

1966
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 2: later in the week, essentially saying, like everyone you call

1967
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 2: around to says that not necessarily that the Pelicans are

1968
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 2: pushing Zion out the door, but they're also.

1969
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 4: Not letting it know.

1970
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 2: They're not letting it be known that, hey, if you

1971
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 2: have an offer, we're we're willing to listen. So I

1972
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 2: just used I think a quadruple negative there. The point

1973
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make is they would take they would

1974
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 2: listen to a call if you called them about Zion.

1975
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 2: So I bring it up because it feels like there

1976
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 2: is a real possibility that Zion could be on the

1977
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 2: trade block. Where do you would you do you move

1978
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 2: Zion if you were the New Orleans Pucks?

1979
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Speaker 3: So Windhorse said, and this is I think is pretty telling.

1980
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Speaker 3: He said, there's no relationship between Zion and the organization,

1981
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 3: and minimal relationship between Zion and his teammates from what

1982
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 3: I understand. And then yeah, basically you laid out the

1983
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 3: rest of it without me having to read the quote.

1984
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 3: But he said, the Zion thing is there. At the

1985
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 3: very least, it is very clear that the Pelicans thought

1986
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 3: on Zion. Williamson's future with the team is evolving. That's

1987
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 3: putting it mildly. Twenty five point eight points, seven rebounds,

1988
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 3: three point six assists. Those are his career numbers. That career, however,

1989
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 3: he uh, well, when he can play, it's it's certainly

1990
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,759
Speaker 3: a good thing. But he's only appeared in one hundred

1991
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 3: and fourteen of three hundred and eight possible games. That's

1992
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 3: not half. It's not even close to half. As a

1993
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 3: matter of fact, he played twenty four games his rookie year,

1994
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 3: sixty one in year two, missed his entire third year,

1995
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 3: and played twenty nine this past year. We know what

1996
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 3: he can be when he's healthy, but how often is

1997
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 3: that the case? Aaron? If I'm the Pelicans, I'm definitely

1998
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 3: considering this. I know it sounds unthinkable, but can't miss

1999
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 3: only works if he's out there playing Lebron James minutes

2000
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 3: in his prime. I mean, Lebron now can't do it.

2001
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 3: But Lebron, who was relentlessly healthy early in his career.

2002
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy was supposed to be the new Shack.

2003
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 3: He's supposed to be the new face of the league

2004
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 3: and all this, and I was skeptical of it, not

2005
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 3: because I didn't think he had the talent, but because

2006
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 3: I thought his body was not meant for the explosion

2007
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 3: that he plays with. Felt like his knees and his

2008
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 3: ankles were going to be considerable issues. And he's had

2009
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 3: more issues than just that. I know what his capabilities are,

2010
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 3: but you've heard the stories about the diet, some of

2011
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:49,600
Speaker 3: the judgment issues, and I think the bigger thing is

2012
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:53,759
Speaker 3: just like we went from this smiling kid at Duke

2013
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,719
Speaker 3: that was just so good and so polished and interviewed

2014
01:41:57,840 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 3: it was impossible not to like Zion and he had

2015
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Speaker 3: all this coverage. Nothing that you hear about him now

2016
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 3: is positive and you never hear much about his like

2017
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 3: you know, like what's his attitude, what's his happiness level?

2018
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 3: But then you hear, well, he's not really got a

2019
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 3: relationship with his teammates, so he doesn't really have a

2020
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 3: relationship with the organization. Then what's left here? If he

2021
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 3: can't stay on the floor and he's doing nothing within

2022
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 3: the organization, what are you supposed to do right now

2023
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 3: is when you might still be able to get a

2024
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 3: lot of value out of him, because somebody's gonna want

2025
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 3: to be part of that rehab process, because if you

2026
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 3: can unlock Zion Williamson, who knows what the seiling could

2027
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 3: possibly be for him. But if I'm the Pelicans, I'm

2028
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:47,919
Speaker 3: absolutely looking at this. If I look at a Scoot Henderson,

2029
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 3: and that's a guy that I think is part of

2030
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Speaker 3: the rebuild to get me where I want to go.

2031
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Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what I want to react to

2032
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 2: what you had to say. I got a lot of

2033
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 2: thoughts on it. Rather than trying to squeeze it in,

2034
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 2: let's extend it out. But that is Of course, after

2035
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 2: we toss it over the news desk with Steve Disaga

2036
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 2: with What's trending, What's up to.

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Speaker 5: Saga, We're bound to mention the Dodgers horrific bullpen yet

2038
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 5: again this evening, because after all, they lost at home

2039
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 5: fifteen to nothing to the rival Giants tonight. San Francisco

2040
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 5: has won six in a row. The Giants, odd note

2041
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 5: from stats inc, are the first MLB teams since the

2042
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 5: nineteen eighties to have fifteen RBIs in a game without

2043
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 5: getting any runs batted in from the three through six

2044
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 5: spots in the order that night, first team since the

2045
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 5: Oakland A's to that when they had Kinseko and McGuire

2046
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty seven. Well, the Dodgers, it looks like,

2047
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 5: are going to be four games behind the first place

2048
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,560
Speaker 5: Arizona Diamondbacks in the NL West after this evening. The

2049
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 5: late game is on FS one and in the top

2050
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 5: of the ninth Arizona now leads Cleveland six to two.

2051
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 5: Cleveland Guardians do have bases loaded one out in the

2052
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:54,959
Speaker 5: top of the ninth, so not over yet, but Arizona

2053
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 5: took the lead with three homers in the bottom of

2054
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 5: the eighth. The Fox TV game tonight was San Diego

2055
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 5: shutting out Tampa Bay two nothing behind winning pitcher Blake

2056
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 5: snell X of the Rays. It was going to be

2057
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 5: Yankees at Red Sox for most of the country that

2058
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:11,000
Speaker 5: was rained out. Cincinnati won its seventh game in a row.

2059
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 5: Cubs won their fifth straight. It was Philly winning its

2060
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 5: fifth in a row in twelve innings at Oakland three

2061
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 5: to two. Fifth straight win for Atlanta and Kansas City

2062
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 5: ended a ten game losing streak with a comeback against

2063
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 5: the Angels ten to nine. Royals in the last three

2064
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 5: innings scored eight times. Shoe O Tunny did hit his

2065
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 5: twenty third homer of the season that leads the American

2066
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,719
Speaker 5: League Well tomorrow. The co leaders will not be teeing

2067
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 5: off at the US Open until five thirty pm Eastern time.

2068
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 5: Ricky Fowler is tied for the lead at the US

2069
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 5: Open with fellow American Wyndham Clark. Rory McElroy is one

2070
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 5: shot back. West Virginia basketball coach Bob Huggins has resigned

2071
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 5: after being arrested for DUI last night. The Vegas Golden

2072
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 5: Knights had their victory parade this evening on the Strip

2073
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,679
Speaker 5: and one other Golf note, as I pass it back

2074
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 5: to you here. Remember famously there was a Tiger Woods

2075
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 5: US Open win in a playoff. The US Open. USGA

2076
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 5: rules for years had an eighteen hole playoff the next day.

2077
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 5: The two golfers tide would come back for the playoff

2078
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 5: the next day. That happened in Southern California, Torrey Pines

2079
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,680
Speaker 5: two thousand and eight. He needed nineteen extra holes to

2080
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 5: beat rock O medi eight. Well, if in Southern California

2081
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 5: tomorrow there is a tie for the lead after the

2082
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 5: regulation seventy two holes, it's gonna be evening. Well, it's

2083
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 5: gonna be a two hole aggregate playoff. They'll use the

2084
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 5: first and the eighteenth, and if they're still tied after

2085
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 5: two extra holes, the plan is then it becomes a

2086
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:44,600
Speaker 5: sudden death playoff. Golf Monthly saying, if we have a

2087
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:46,759
Speaker 5: playoff at the US Open, it would be the first

2088
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 5: since Woods years ago that the Masters go straight to

2089
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,839
Speaker 5: sudden death. The PGA Championship has a three hole playoff

2090
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 5: format and the British Open four extra holes. We mentioned earlier,

2091
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 5: it's gonna be schedule network TV coverage until ten pm

2092
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 5: Eastern time, so we could have our hour and a

2093
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 5: half more of light for golf. Just looking ahead in

2094
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 5: case of a playoff tomorrow, we do have a tie

2095
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 5: for the lead and Rory won back back to.

2096
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 2: You, Thank you very much, Steve Disager, Fox Sports Radio,

2097
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live from

2098
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com studios. Before we got to to Sager,

2099
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 2: we were talking about Zion Williamson. Multiple reports this week

2100
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 2: essentially that he could be available in a trade. Both

2101
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 2: Mark Stein, previously at ESPN and The New York Times,

2102
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 2: and Brian Windhors currently at ESPN insinuating that maybe the

2103
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 2: Pelicans aren't actively trying to trade him, but would probably

2104
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 2: listen to offers. Mark Stein specifically saying that they seem

2105
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 2: to covet Scoot Henderson a top three a projected top

2106
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 2: three pick in this week's NBA draft, and if there

2107
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 2: was a way to get into a position to draft him,

2108
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 2: Zion would be an asset that could, in theory be

2109
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 2: given up. Jason shared his thoughts on this, and Jason,

2110
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:05,719
Speaker 2: I'll just I'll take it a step further. You said

2111
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 2: you could see the scenario or you'd have no fundamental

2112
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 2: issue with you.

2113
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say it.

2114
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:12,640
Speaker 2: I think the Pelicans should be in the market to

2115
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 2: trade Zion Williamson. And it sounds crazy twenty two years

2116
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 2: old to be twenty three on July six, which ironically

2117
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 2: is my birthday as well. So great birthday for Zion.

2118
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 2: But everything that you said is why. Because One, there

2119
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 2: are the physical injuries and limitations. Uh, whatever the number was,

2120
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 2: it's an insane number of games that have been missed.

2121
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 4: Two, here's the other thing.

2122
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 2: If he's missing this many injuries at twenty two, it's

2123
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 2: not gonna magically get better. Three and this is an

2124
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 2: important one from my perspective. It doesn't appear as though

2125
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 2: like it'd be one thing if his body just kept

2126
01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 2: failing him and golly, nothing's going right. But let's go

2127
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:03,760
Speaker 2: back to that playing game. Let's go back to that

2128
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 2: press conference the day of the playing game where he

2129
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 2: had been cleared by doctors. But he said, I when

2130
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 2: I feel like Zion, that's when I'll come back.

2131
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 2: It's a freaking playing game. It's one game, lose and

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01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 2: go home. And if you're not cleared by doctors, I'm

2134
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 2: not saying people should put their careers on the line.

2135
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that he was in shape to

2136
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 2: play forty eight minutes and put the team on his back.

2137
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 2: But in a win or go home, when you're cleared

2138
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 2: to play, you can't. You can't muster up five minutes

2139
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 2: off the bench. By the way, keep in mind, Jason,

2140
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 2: that was April. He had a hamstring injury. This wasn't

2141
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,799
Speaker 2: major surgery that he was coming off of. I understand

2142
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 2: hamstrings are lingering whatever, but that is just like like,

2143
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to do the whole you know, heart

2144
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 2: of a champion, blah blah blah, but that has to matter.

2145
01:48:56,880 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 2: And then finally, let me say this, his own organization,

2146
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 2: she doesn't believe in him, because David Griffin has said

2147
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 2: some interesting things, and his own teammates do not believe

2148
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 2: in him. You remember CJ. McCollum after they lost in

2149
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 2: the playoffs, what he say, everybody's got to be all in,

2150
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 2: everybody's got to be committed. If you remember, CJ. McCollum

2151
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 2: was playing through an injury that required postseason surgery, and

2152
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 2: that was a message to Zion and so I'm with you.

2153
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 2: He seemed like such a jovial, genuine sweet kid at

2154
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 2: Duke and I'm sure he still is. But for whatever reason,

2155
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 2: if it's the people around him, if it's him, if

2156
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 2: it's whatever, something's not clicking and there seems to be

2157
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 2: no guilt or remorse about the fact that he is

2158
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 2: not playing. I would move him. I really wouldn't. Lastly,

2159
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 2: I don't go along here, so I'll just be quick.

2160
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 2: Don't forget. They pushed the Phoenix Suns to the brink

2161
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 2: two years ago in the playoffs without him, so they've

2162
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:55,639
Speaker 2: proven they can win without him. I'm sorry, I would

2163
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 2: be trying to move him because that guy has shown

2164
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 2: me no reason to believe that he is actually willing

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01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 2: to put in the work necessary to reach the unlimited,

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01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 2: untapped potential that he clearly has.

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01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 3: I have no problem with anything you just said. I

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01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 3: would also say this. I'm just gonna throw this out

2169
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 3: of speculation at this point, not for the future, but

2170
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 3: for what we have already seen. Do you remember when

2171
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 3: the Pelicans won that lottery and there was this weird

2172
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 3: stuff being leaked from Zion's camp about potentially sitting out,

2173
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 3: not really wanting to go to New Orleans, being disappointed,

2174
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 3: wanting to be a nick. All. This stuff is kind

2175
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 3: of popping out and it was just kind of thrown

2176
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 3: out there and everybody was talking about it for a

2177
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 3: week or so. And maybe he's not going to go

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01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 3: to New Orleans. I'm gonna go to New Orleans? All

2179
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:45,799
Speaker 3: this Is it possible? And I think it's very possible.

2180
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 3: Is it possible that this whole thing is derailed because

2181
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 3: those leaks were legit and he's just fallen into a

2182
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 3: place where he's depressed, where he's been in the wrong situation,

2183
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:00,799
Speaker 3: in the wrong city, in the wrong market.

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01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 2: But real quick, if it's the wrong situation, it's self

2185
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 2: inflicted because if you made that decision before you were

2186
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 2: ever drafted, like at some point like I hate to

2187
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 2: be that guy, but suck it up, Buttercup. And oh,

2188
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 2: by the way, Jason, don't forget he signed an extension

2189
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 2: last offseason. No, no, there there was not a gun

2190
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 2: to his head. Uh, probably bad pun with the John

2191
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 2: Moran stuff, but there was.

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01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 4: Not a gun.

2193
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 2: Nobody was was putting a pen in his hand and

2194
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 2: forcing him to sign that extension. So maybe that was

2195
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 2: the case before the draft, but that is a zero sympathy.

2196
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 4: Agreed, Bs agreed.

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01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to explain or not explain. I'm trying

2198
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:47,800
Speaker 3: to understand how somebody that looked like they loved basketball

2199
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 3: now looks like they don't. Like it's like they've lost

2200
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 3: their love for what they did. And it's not like

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01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 3: we've heard that much from Zion himself, but all the

2202
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 3: stories and just the way that he has gone about

2203
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 3: this and the way that it is soured within the

2204
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 3: organization and everything else, this hasn't played out like he

2205
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 3: thought it was going to play out, and the way

2206
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 3: he's reacted to it has been really, really poor. And

2207
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 3: here's the other thing. If indeed what I have thrown

2208
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 3: out there is true, then you gotta move him, like

2209
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 3: you have to find a way to trade him. Not

2210
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 3: for the good of him, even though that's awesome, but

2211
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:26,640
Speaker 3: just from a pure business if you're just looking at

2212
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 3: it from a selfish perspective of the Pelicans, you're never

2213
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 3: gonna get a good Zion Williamson there. You're never gonna

2214
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 3: get the guy that you thought you were drafting number

2215
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 3: one because he's never fully going to be all in there.

2216
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 3: Let's see if that can change somewhere else and get

2217
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 3: what you can back for that. Originally, the reports have

2218
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 3: been out there that it was either him or brandon Ingram.

2219
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 3: I would suggest to you had better be Zion. There's

2220
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 3: no reason to move a brandon Ingram that has done

2221
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 3: a lot in this league for a Zion where a

2222
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:55,600
Speaker 3: lot of it is potential. And again, he's played one

2223
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen out of a like three hundred and

2224
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:00,680
Speaker 3: eight games. I think is the number. I don't think it.

2225
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 3: You said it doesn't magically get better. I think it

2226
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 3: gets worse, and I think it's almost toxic. I would

2227
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 3: not be the least bit surprised if someone bites on

2228
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 3: this and this is done in time for the NBA Draft.

2229
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 3: The only other thing I would say about the extension

2230
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 3: very quickly that he signed is it's also possible Zion

2231
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 3: knows his body is shot and it's and he doesn't

2232
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 3: trust it. He's not confident anymore in his ability to

2233
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 3: be healthy. So let's go ahead and take this money

2234
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:32,679
Speaker 3: right now while we absolutely can, before it's exposed further

2235
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 3: that we can't do this very long. I would throw

2236
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 3: that out there also.

2237
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to piggyback on one last thing,

2238
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 2: because we do have to get to disager here, is

2239
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 2: that there's been a lot of talk the last couple

2240
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:47,800
Speaker 2: weeks with John Morant now about maybe a change of

2241
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 2: scenery is necessary. I actually disagree with Jah. He seems

2242
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 2: to love Memphis, the city loves him. He just has

2243
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 2: some maturing to do. I actually feel the opposite was Zion.

2244
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 2: I think a fresh start for him would be good,

2245
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 2: and I think it could be the same for the

2246
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 2: Pelican's Fox Sports Radio air tors Jason Martin broadcasting live

2247
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 2: from the Tyrek dot Com studios. Coming up, the Sager

2248
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 2: always delivers that extended update at the bottom of the

2249
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,400
Speaker 2: nine pm Pacific hour. He'll be joining us next with

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Speaker 2: all the stories we missed in sports. That's next, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio Aer Tors

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01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,600
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Tyrek dot Com studios,

2253
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 2: as we do every week around this hour. I want

2254
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 2: toss it over the news desk the Sager take it away,

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01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 2: my friend.

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Speaker 5: Well, gentlemen, the La Dodgers. Over the past month, Hey there,

2257
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 5: Dodgers botched their annual gay Pride Night, which was finally

2258
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 5: held last night. This was huge in the news locally.

2259
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 5: They flip flopped on inviting a controversial group to honor

2260
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,840
Speaker 5: a group some called anti Christian It ensured that people

2261
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 5: on all sides of the issue would be very angry

2262
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 5: at some point, and they were keep in mind context.

2263
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 5: In Los Angeles County, according to Pew Research, about sixty

2264
01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 5: percent of people identify as Catholic or Christian. That would

2265
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 5: include plenty of Latinos. Of course, the census says about

2266
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 5: half of Los Angeles' is Hispanic. So the pregame honorees

2267
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 5: last night at Dodger Stadium where a satire performance group

2268
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 5: of gay men who dress as nuns perpetual indulgences in

2269
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 5: their title. The video shown often on the local news

2270
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 5: in LA of a past performance of theirs, would no

2271
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 5: doubt be considered offensive to a majority of churchgoers, whatever church.

2272
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 5: When this group was reinstated for last night ceremony at

2273
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 5: Dodger Stadium, fame pitcher Clayton Kershaw, not the Dodger organization itself,

2274
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 5: announced that Christian Faith Day was returning to Dodger Stadium

2275
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 5: next month, and yes, the timing of that announcement was

2276
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 5: certainly on purpose. The LA Times interviewed Kershaw. His comment was,

2277
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 5: this has nothing to do with the LGBTQ community or

2278
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 5: pride or anything like that. This is simply a group

2279
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 5: that was making fun of a religion that I don't

2280
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 5: agree with, he said. For us, we felt like the

2281
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 5: best thing to do in response was instead of maybe

2282
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 5: making a statement condemning or anything like that, we would

2283
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,920
Speaker 5: just instead try to show what we do support as

2284
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 5: opposed to maybe what we don't, and that was Jesus

2285
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 5: so to make Christian Faith Day. Our response is what

2286
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 5: we felt like was the best decision. And some very

2287
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 5: brief background on this whole Pride Night event. The LA

2288
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 5: Dodgers vice president for Marketing and Broadcasting is gay. He's

2289
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 5: been a driving force for this cause with the team

2290
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 5: for years. He married his boyfriend at Dodger Stadium. By

2291
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 5: the way, the Dodgers, among the few missteps they did

2292
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 5: make this past month, they are guilty of poor communication

2293
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 5: to the public because after the LA community saw that

2294
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 5: group's on stage performance video locally exactly explain please why

2295
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 5: they deserve to be honored, that reasoning wasn't featured nearly enough.

2296
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 5: You're telling me there's no other gay friendly organization in

2297
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 5: Los Angeles that could be honored on Pride Night. So

2298
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,880
Speaker 5: last night, the big news protests outside Dodger Stadium. It

2299
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 5: was the number one story on all the Los Angeles

2300
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 5: newscasts afternoon and evening. It started with a rally in

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01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 5: an outside parking lot, then a short march to the

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01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 5: main stadium entrance on Vinsko Avenue. You want irony, Vince Gully,

2303
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 5: the greatest Dodger ever was a devout Catholic. One protester

2304
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 5: held a signe last night that simply said, vin is sad.

2305
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 5: There was a Jewish rabbi that spoke at the rally

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01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 5: last night said if you are anti Catholic, anti religion,

2307
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 5: anti God, I got a problem with that. Others held

2308
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 5: signs about God being mocked. The protesters stayed in the

2309
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 5: long crosswalk in front of the main entrance to Dodger

2310
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 5: Stadium last night, blocking Gate A and FYI. These protests

2311
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 5: were not against the Dodger's Pride night that has existed

2312
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 5: without any reaction like this for ten years. It was

2313
01:57:36,040 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 5: a backlash against honoring this controversial group. And when they

2314
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 5: were honored pregame last night, literally almost no fans were

2315
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 5: in their seats. It was a stunning video.

2316
01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 4: Super early though was it.

2317
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:50,200
Speaker 5: Was about a half hour before first pitch.

2318
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, okay.

2319
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:55,000
Speaker 5: There were an estimated two thousand people protesting outside, seemingly

2320
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 5: less than that in their seats, and attendance for last

2321
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 5: night's game in LA was forty nine thousand. It was

2322
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 5: a stunning video to watch. I saw among the many

2323
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 5: comments on Twitter while I was here last night, as

2324
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 5: somebody says, I guess that's a win for the protesters anyway.

2325
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 5: On the field, not a win for the Dodgers' pitching staff.

2326
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 5: Lost at home fifteen nothing to the rival Giants tonight.

2327
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 5: The Dodgers' bullpen era is now five point one seven,

2328
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 5: second worst in the major leagues. Only the Oakland A's

2329
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 5: bullpen is worse so far. This would be, according to AP,

2330
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 5: the worst bullpen era for the Dodger organization since nineteen

2331
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:39,839
Speaker 5: twenty nine. If it keeps at this pace losing fifteen

2332
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 5: nothing tonight, that is the most lopsided shutout loss ever

2333
01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 5: for the Dodgers at Dodger Stadium. They lost a game

2334
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 5: in nineteen sixty five eighteen nothing, but that was on

2335
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 5: the road at Cincinnati. The Dodgers have five starting pitchers

2336
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 5: that are injured, they don't have a lot of bullpen options,

2337
01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 5: they don't have a designated clothes and by the way

2338
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 5: they don't have five starting pitchers because it's a bullpen

2339
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:06,839
Speaker 5: day every five days, again without a lot of options.

2340
01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 5: There is a minor leaguer up from Triple A who's

2341
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 5: just not good enough to deserve to be at the

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Speaker 5: major league level yet who they have literally given five

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01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 5: or six starts with an ERA over eight, including this weekend.

2344
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 5: It's astounding how bad Dodger pitching, which is their calling

2345
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 5: card for decades, how bad it is this year, especially

2346
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 5: in the pen. So updating, the Dodgers second place in

2347
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 5: the n West, are now four games behind the Arizona Diamondbacks,

2348
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Speaker 5: who won the late contest on FS one tonight. They

2349
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 5: beat Cleveland six ' to three. Arizona hit three home

2350
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 5: runs in the bottom of the eighth, breaking a two

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Speaker 5: to two tie.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Seger. Fox Sports Radio, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday Air Tours. Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: tyreck dot Com Studios. Next hour, Chris Plank will join us.

2355
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Speaker 2: Chris Plank of course following us at two am Eastern Time.

2356
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Speaker 2: Excited to have Plank on the show, will join us

2357
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 2: and we will talk SEC football. That twenty twenty four

2358
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Speaker 2: schedule is out. What you need to know what it means.

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Speaker 2: That's next Fox Sports Raudio. Welcome in everybody, our four

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Speaker 2: the gentlemen out there on the East Coast and the

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Speaker 2: central time zones. Happy Father's Day, Jason Martin, Happy Father's

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Speaker 2: Day to you.

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Speaker 4: It is Father's Day in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: How is life different since the clock has turned to

2370
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Speaker 2: midnight with you?

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Speaker 3: It's really not. My daughter Clara Grace is asleep. My

2372
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 3: wife Habby is also asleep. My dog Margo, I believe,

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02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 3: has been asleep all day, so nothing has changed. There'll be,

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02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 3: you know, we got our final hour here plenty to

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02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:13,840
Speaker 3: get into and then I'll go home and I'll be

2376
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:17,280
Speaker 3: able to, you know, lay down sleep and tomorrow. I've

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02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 3: been told it's my day, but I know that it's

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02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 3: my two year old to day. So I've got a

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02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:25,640
Speaker 3: couple of things that I would like to accomplish those

2380
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:27,480
Speaker 3: being you know, the kind of fun things you want

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02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:29,920
Speaker 3: to do on Father's Day, not doing a whole lot

2382
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 3: and decent dinner and all that kind of stuff. We'll

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02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:36,840
Speaker 3: see what my daughter allows, but again, every day should

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02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 3: be her day. What she does. I mean, I I

2385
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 3: you know, maybe this is experienced for you in the

2386
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 3: future for sure, but I feel like your heart really

2387
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 3: does grow three or four sizes when you have a child.

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02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:50,840
Speaker 3: It just had it has to. And I think that

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02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:53,120
Speaker 3: that's why, you know, Father's Day is something to on her.

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Speaker 3: But I think the good thing about Father's Day is

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02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:58,960
Speaker 3: that as dads we get to recognize the blessing that

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02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 3: we have been given to be entrusted with one of

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02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 3: the Lord's daughters. And in my case, I couldn't be

2394
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 3: happier with that. And I couldn't be happier to have

2395
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 3: another hour to talk sports before I go and play

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02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:10,960
Speaker 3: the dad role again.

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Speaker 2: Well, fantastic. We do have an hour left. Twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: from now, Chris Plank will join us. Chris Plank, of

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Speaker 2: course host with Arnie Spanier every Sunday night. He is

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Speaker 2: filling in for Bernie Fratto at the top of this

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02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 2: hour two am Eastern time, and one reason I'm really

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02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 2: excited to talk to Plank. So Plank, I think everybody knows,

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02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:33,680
Speaker 2: but he is the Oklahoma softball play by play voice

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02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 2: they're coming off a national championship, and then also the

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Speaker 2: sideline reporter for Oklahoma football, and Plank was a great

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Speaker 2: resource for I think you and I were working together

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02:02:44,720 --> 02:02:48,520
Speaker 2: at that point, but a great resource for this entire network.

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02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:52,240
Speaker 2: When the Texas Oklahoma news broke in the summer of

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02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:53,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, I think Arnie and I may have

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02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 2: still been working together at that point, but I bring

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Speaker 2: it up.

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Speaker 4: Because it really kind of came full circle this week.

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02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 2: As the SEC announced its twenty twenty four football schedules.

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02:03:04,160 --> 02:03:06,200
Speaker 2: For people who that might not mean much to that

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02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 2: is the fall where Texas and Oklahoma come to the league,

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02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:13,000
Speaker 2: So we'll have eight league games at that point. We're

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Speaker 2: going to eliminate divisions, so like the SEC East Georgia

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02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:19,400
Speaker 2: isn't necessarily gonna play Kentucky and South Carolina and all

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02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 2: those teams that they always play. But of course the

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Speaker 2: headline was who were Texas and Oklahoma gonna end up with? Well, Texas,

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02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:29,440
Speaker 2: some of the marquee games that they have. They will

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02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:33,080
Speaker 2: host Georgia. They will also play at Texas A and

2423
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 2: M and at Arkansas, two great historic rivals. Those games

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02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 2: will be crazy. The Oklahoma Red River game will remain

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02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 2: in Dallas, and then for the Oklahoma Sooners. Man there

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02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:46,080
Speaker 2: is no rest for the weary coming to the SEC.

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Speaker 2: Alabama at home for the Oklahoma Sooners, Tennessee at home

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02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 2: for the Oklahoma Sooners, and then road games against LSU, Auburn,

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Speaker 2: Ole miss and Missouri.

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Speaker 4: Jason.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be Oklahoma Tech related, but you're

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02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:04,480
Speaker 2: a huge college football fan. You live in SEC country.

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02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 2: Did you have any initial reactions when you saw this

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02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 2: schedule for the first time on Wednesday night?

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Speaker 4: I think it was just it's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be really cool. I mean, there's a lot of

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02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 3: games that we're gonna get that are good, and I

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02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 3: think they did about as good a job as you

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02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:20,200
Speaker 3: could of not killing off the rivalries. I mean, you

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02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 3: lose it looks like you're gonna lose Georgia and South Carolina,

2441
02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:26,680
Speaker 3: which look I lived in Greenville, wonderful city, by the way,

2442
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 3: lived in Spartanburg. Know a lot of Game Cocks fans,

2443
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:34,000
Speaker 3: some people that went there that Georgia South Carolina rivalry

2444
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 3: is underrated. It's really important, certainly to South Carolina. I

2445
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 3: don't know what Georgia would view it as now, but

2446
02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 3: it's always a fun environment. You hate to lose that one.

2447
02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:47,120
Speaker 3: But at least you're keeping stuff like Alabama Tennessee, you know,

2448
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 3: third Saturday in October, and you're gonna keep a lot

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02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:54,000
Speaker 3: of these other kind of important rivalries within. It was

2450
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:57,160
Speaker 3: gonna upset something, some things we're gonna have to change,

2451
02:04:57,880 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 3: but it just looks like it's gonna be so awesome.

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02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:03,560
Speaker 3: There's just gonna be so many great games, so many

2453
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:07,879
Speaker 3: great matchups, so many great storylines, so many things to monitor.

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02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:10,480
Speaker 3: I I I one of the most amazing or one

2455
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:12,560
Speaker 3: of the things that I've been thinking about all week actually,

2456
02:05:13,080 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 3: And like Plank is not gonna be able to come

2457
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 3: at it from from an objective point of view, nor

2458
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 3: would we expect him to. But did you hear cal

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02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:22,839
Speaker 3: Hurt a few days ago? I should make the comment

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Speaker 3: about Oklahoma becoming the next Nebraska because it's not really

2461
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 3: a recruiting hotbed and now they're stepping into a real

2462
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Speaker 3: big dog's palace, and how are you gonna handle that?

2463
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:38,920
Speaker 3: Lions Den. I am fascinated by that, and I've been

2464
02:05:38,920 --> 02:05:41,880
Speaker 3: thinking about it for a while. Actually, maybe I wasn't

2465
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:45,480
Speaker 3: able to put it as eloquently or as succinctly as

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Speaker 3: Calherd did, but I think that idea, that theory has

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02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:51,840
Speaker 3: been rattling in my head for a while. Texas they're

2468
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:54,200
Speaker 3: they're gonna have their their struggles or whatever, but they

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02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:56,640
Speaker 3: don't have the same level of tradition Oklahoma does. But

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma does have something to lose here in terms of

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Speaker 3: their relevance to a national title picture. Not money wise.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna make a boatload of money. We already know

2473
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 3: all of that, but this is gonna be a massive

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02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:12,560
Speaker 3: challenge for them because they've been in a conference where

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Speaker 3: a lot of times they've been able to dominate and

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02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:17,040
Speaker 3: dominate and dominate, and that's just not gonna be the

2477
02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 3: case in the SEC.

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02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:22,240
Speaker 2: So I'll go back to the day that the first

2479
02:06:22,360 --> 02:06:26,800
Speaker 2: report broke at SEC Media Days, and I remember, you know,

2480
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 2: on my own podcast doing something where I didn't believe

2481
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:34,240
Speaker 2: the report at first, and then it became very obvious,

2482
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 2: very quickly that it was real.

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02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 4: And one of the arguments I had was it makes

2484
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 4: no sense for Oklahoma.

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02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 3: Is that?

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02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:42,960
Speaker 2: So to answer your question, yes, I heard Collins rant,

2487
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:46,200
Speaker 2: and Collins rant is essentially that basically, in most of

2488
02:06:46,240 --> 02:06:50,160
Speaker 2: our lifetimes, there's only one real program that was a true,

2489
02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 2: historically great national power. I'm paraphrasing. I don't want to,

2490
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:57,800
Speaker 2: you know, put words in Colin's mouth, but that you know,

2491
02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 2: USC has had ups and downs. Lord has had ups

2492
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 2: and downs. You know whoever, Michigan's had ups and downs,

2493
02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 2: and they always bounce back. It just takes the right guy,

2494
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:09,960
Speaker 2: the right person to write this, to write that. He said,

2495
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:13,040
Speaker 2: the only program that has never been able to bounce

2496
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:15,960
Speaker 2: back is Nebraska, and he listened to a bunch of reasons,

2497
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:19,920
Speaker 2: but the number one reason is they left an advantageous

2498
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 2: geographic conference which was obviously the Big twelve for one

2499
02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:26,200
Speaker 2: that isn't the Big ten, and they've never been the same,

2500
02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:28,600
Speaker 2: and that Oklahoma is much the same. And so I

2501
02:07:28,720 --> 02:07:31,160
Speaker 2: go back to the day that the news broke, or

2502
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:33,480
Speaker 2: that that you know that this was something that could

2503
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:35,400
Speaker 2: possibly have I said, it makes no sense for Oklahoma

2504
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 2: because you know I always say this, Jason, is I

2505
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,200
Speaker 2: get from the money perspective. You know, the money's so good,

2506
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 2: we get all that. But I always say this is

2507
02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:48,400
Speaker 2: that fans don't care about the money. Fans don't care

2508
02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 2: that you're making eighty five million dollars instead of forty

2509
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:55,480
Speaker 2: five million dollars. Fans care about wins and losses. And

2510
02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 2: I do think there have been several moves throughout realignment

2511
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 2: that you made the move that made sense for the

2512
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:08,000
Speaker 2: money purposes. You know, you look at say Maryland going

2513
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 2: to the Big Ten. That's the one I always use.

2514
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:11,880
Speaker 2: They did it, and they said it at the time

2515
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 2: it was solely because of money. And guess what, they're

2516
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,040
Speaker 2: irrelevant in basketball and they're irrelevant in football. And how

2517
02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:21,960
Speaker 2: much it's great that you're cashing those checks, But at

2518
02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 2: what cost? I wonder if that is gonna happen to

2519
02:08:25,200 --> 02:08:27,880
Speaker 2: say a Ucla football going to the Big Ten. I

2520
02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:30,920
Speaker 2: think USC is gonna be okay, they're historically great. Whatever

2521
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 2: does UCLA just get into this perpetual thing where they're

2522
02:08:34,600 --> 02:08:37,240
Speaker 2: a six to seven win team and they're they're never

2523
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:42,080
Speaker 2: Ucla is never gonna overcome USC and Ohiose State and

2524
02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:43,960
Speaker 2: Michigan and Penn State all in the same year. That's

2525
02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 2: never gonna happen. So at what cost? Iss Ucla going

2526
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 2: to the Big Ten. And I do think there is

2527
02:08:50,480 --> 02:08:54,240
Speaker 2: something to that with Oklahoma is that it's one thing

2528
02:08:54,280 --> 02:08:57,960
Speaker 2: to be in the Big twelve, it's one thing to whatever.

2529
02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:01,640
Speaker 2: But now, even in the twelve team playoff era, you're

2530
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 2: gonna have to be the third best team at worst,

2531
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:07,000
Speaker 2: at at bat ai worst. You're gonna have to be

2532
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:09,720
Speaker 2: the third best team in a league with Georgia and

2533
02:09:09,800 --> 02:09:12,440
Speaker 2: Florida and LSU and Texas and Texas A and M

2534
02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:15,920
Speaker 2: and Alabama. And maybe every once in a while it'll

2535
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:18,200
Speaker 2: work out in your favor, but I think a lot

2536
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:20,839
Speaker 2: of years it's not going to And to your point, Jason,

2537
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:24,800
Speaker 2: there is no Oklahoma fan of any age that does

2538
02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:31,720
Speaker 2: not remember being you know, nationally relevant every single year

2539
02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:35,880
Speaker 2: of their lives essentially, And I think there's something to it.

2540
02:09:36,120 --> 02:09:38,800
Speaker 2: That was a very long winded way of me saying

2541
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:40,720
Speaker 2: I think there is something to collins comments.

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02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I would even go further than that.

2543
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 3: In this I also think was part of Collins' overarching

2544
02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:51,320
Speaker 3: thought about Lincoln Riley leaving Oklahoma for USC. I look

2545
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:53,160
Speaker 3: at that to what you were just saying about you

2546
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,800
Speaker 3: think USC is gonna be fine because traditional, you know,

2547
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 3: they're always good all this kind of stuff. That's the

2548
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:02,800
Speaker 3: same argument you could make for Oklahoma, but for one

2549
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:08,120
Speaker 3: key factor. Man, it's a recruiting hotbed that USC program

2550
02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:11,640
Speaker 3: being able to bring people in. Oklahoma doesn't have that

2551
02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:16,280
Speaker 3: built in advantage, and that, to me is your big differentiator.

2552
02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 3: And as you were listing teams, you even mentioned Tennessee,

2553
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 3: and who knows, they may actually legit be back. That

2554
02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:23,280
Speaker 3: might not have just been a last year thing. We'll

2555
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:26,800
Speaker 3: find out. But I actually believe in them, So, I mean,

2556
02:10:26,840 --> 02:10:29,800
Speaker 3: you've got what they're doing and what they're coming from.

2557
02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:34,000
Speaker 3: This is the biggest challenge Oklahoma has ever undertaken, and

2558
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:36,120
Speaker 3: it's gonna be fascinating to see whether they're up for

2559
02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:38,440
Speaker 3: this challenge. It's gonna be fascinating to see if it's

2560
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 3: venables they can do it, or if there's gonna be

2561
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 3: somebody else that they're gonna bring in to do it.

2562
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:46,400
Speaker 3: I think that it might be. I'm not willing to

2563
02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:48,520
Speaker 3: say they're about to be the next Nebraska. I'm just

2564
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:51,520
Speaker 3: not because I don't think they would fall into that

2565
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:55,280
Speaker 3: level of obscurity. And maybe Nebraska's gonna be able to

2566
02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 3: come out of this, but they're in a really difficult spot.

2567
02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:02,120
Speaker 3: But if Oklahoma becomes ol Miss, that's a deal, right,

2568
02:11:02,200 --> 02:11:05,400
Speaker 3: And I don't mean Ole Miss with Lane Kiffen, that's

2569
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:08,080
Speaker 3: a one loss team deep into the year or something

2570
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 3: like that. I mean just an old Miss, just another

2571
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:13,840
Speaker 3: one of the teams in the SEC that's good, that's

2572
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:16,680
Speaker 3: ranked in the top twenty something like that. But that's

2573
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:19,320
Speaker 3: kind of it, like they're not really a focus. If

2574
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:24,280
Speaker 3: Oklahoma all of a sudden becomes Oklahoma State in terms

2575
02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:28,280
Speaker 3: of how they are perceived within the Southeastern Conference, what

2576
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:31,840
Speaker 3: does that mean for them five ten years down the road?

2577
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:37,280
Speaker 3: That to me is the most interesting storyline going forward.

2578
02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:41,120
Speaker 3: Texas their storyline is completely different because where they're coming

2579
02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:44,280
Speaker 3: from is different, and that's going to be interesting as well,

2580
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 3: but not to the same degree as Oklahoma because Oklahoma,

2581
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:49,640
Speaker 3: we have a certain level of expectation for what we

2582
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 3: think they're going to be annually, and I think we

2583
02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:57,400
Speaker 3: might have to change those metrics based on the Southeastern

2584
02:11:57,440 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 3: Conference and the bear that that conference.

2585
02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:01,720
Speaker 2: Is taking a step further really quick. And we'll bring

2586
02:12:01,760 --> 02:12:05,400
Speaker 2: on playing to ask him these questions. But it'll be

2587
02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:09,560
Speaker 2: interesting because obviously the current playoff structure, it may not

2588
02:12:09,640 --> 02:12:13,400
Speaker 2: go on this way forever, especially if conferences continue to expand.

2589
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:17,080
Speaker 2: But you mentioned Oklahoma. Would you rather be over the

2590
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:21,959
Speaker 2: next ten years, Oklahoma or Oklahoma State? It sounds crazy,

2591
02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:26,480
Speaker 2: but Oklahoma State probably is best built out of everybody

2592
02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:28,839
Speaker 2: in the new Big twelve, you know, maybe a TCU,

2593
02:12:28,880 --> 02:12:32,000
Speaker 2: maybe a Kansas State or whatever. Oklahoma State's built to

2594
02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:34,640
Speaker 2: win that league. They are in position to win that league.

2595
02:12:34,680 --> 02:12:38,080
Speaker 2: And remember there are six automatic bids in the twelve

2596
02:12:38,080 --> 02:12:42,440
Speaker 2: team college Football Playoff going forward, Oklahoma is not built

2597
02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 2: to be at the top of the Big the SEC.

2598
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 2: And so you start looking ten years down the road.

2599
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:49,360
Speaker 2: If we keep the current structure of six auto bids,

2600
02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:53,680
Speaker 2: I think there's a very realistic scenario that Oklahoma State

2601
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:56,280
Speaker 2: has made more college football Playoff appearances in the twelve

2602
02:12:56,320 --> 02:12:58,800
Speaker 2: team era than Oklahoma. I'll take it a step further.

2603
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:01,880
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning, the head coach at Oregon. His name was

2604
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:04,720
Speaker 2: very loosely brought up for a minute for the Auburn job,

2605
02:13:05,160 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 2: and I said, would you rather be the best assuming

2606
02:13:07,400 --> 02:13:08,960
Speaker 2: they stay in the PAC twelve? And that's a whole

2607
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:11,920
Speaker 2: other can of worms, but you have by far the

2608
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:14,960
Speaker 2: best job in the PAC twelve. The Pac twelve is

2609
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:18,120
Speaker 2: essentially going to have an automatic bid. You're gonna give

2610
02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:20,800
Speaker 2: that up to go get the ninth or tenth best

2611
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:23,600
Speaker 2: job in the SEC when two other elite schools just

2612
02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:24,960
Speaker 2: came in on top of all the other ones that

2613
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:27,640
Speaker 2: are there. And so the one thing I will say,

2614
02:13:28,600 --> 02:13:31,280
Speaker 2: and it applies to the SEC schedule that came out,

2615
02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:33,240
Speaker 2: the Big ten schedule that came out, and also the

2616
02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 2: twelve team playoff, I do think everyone as consumers of

2617
02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:43,480
Speaker 2: college football have to recalibrate how we cover this sport

2618
02:13:43,880 --> 02:13:47,040
Speaker 2: and how we comprehend this sport, because right now it's

2619
02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:50,560
Speaker 2: inconceivable that anyone could say that Oklahoma State is going

2620
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:53,120
Speaker 2: to have a better ten years than Oklahoma get to

2621
02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:55,320
Speaker 2: a twelve team playoff with six automatic bids. See what

2622
02:13:55,360 --> 02:13:58,760
Speaker 2: they say, And it's the same with a million other variables.

2623
02:13:58,760 --> 02:14:00,400
Speaker 4: And I think that's the one thing. I guess the

2624
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:01,400
Speaker 4: point that I'm trying to get to.

2625
02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:06,720
Speaker 2: This SEC schedule is such a great example of how

2626
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:10,200
Speaker 2: fundamentally different this sport is gonna look one year from

2627
02:14:10,240 --> 02:14:11,640
Speaker 2: now and how we're gonna consume it.

2628
02:14:11,720 --> 02:14:14,720
Speaker 3: Chasing absolutely agree with that. I'm looking forward to talking

2629
02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:18,640
Speaker 3: to Plank and getting his thoughts on that it's gonna

2630
02:14:18,640 --> 02:14:21,760
Speaker 3: be fun for us. It's gonna be content for days

2631
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:26,600
Speaker 3: and weeks and months and years. It's I don't know

2632
02:14:26,640 --> 02:14:29,360
Speaker 3: that ultimately it's gonna be great for college football for

2633
02:14:29,480 --> 02:14:31,400
Speaker 3: a lot of schools that are gonna get left behind

2634
02:14:31,480 --> 02:14:33,880
Speaker 3: in this whole mix when everything, when all the realignment

2635
02:14:33,960 --> 02:14:38,520
Speaker 3: and shuffling finally does stop. But in the short term, man,

2636
02:14:38,600 --> 02:14:39,840
Speaker 3: it's gonna be fun to watch.

2637
02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:42,280
Speaker 4: Yes, and last, last, last thought, because I do want

2638
02:14:42,280 --> 02:14:42,800
Speaker 4: to get the Plank.

2639
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:46,560
Speaker 2: This is the this is the can of worms that

2640
02:14:46,600 --> 02:14:50,920
Speaker 2: gets interesting because everyone says, oh, more high profile games,

2641
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:54,040
Speaker 2: more this more that. Well, guess what, somebody's gonna win

2642
02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:57,560
Speaker 2: that game. Somebody's gonna lose it too. And you know,

2643
02:14:57,600 --> 02:15:01,120
Speaker 2: whether it is in Oklahoma, whether it is a Florida whomever,

2644
02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:03,360
Speaker 2: there are gonna be teams that are taking more losses

2645
02:15:03,400 --> 02:15:06,280
Speaker 2: than they're used to, which, obviously, UH is gonna make

2646
02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:08,960
Speaker 2: this whole situation crazy. Coming up next, we will bring

2647
02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:12,000
Speaker 2: on Chris Plank to discuss the Oklahoma situation.

2648
02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:12,720
Speaker 3: UH.

2649
02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:15,280
Speaker 2: Chris Plank joining us momentarily. Before we do, those should

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Speaker 4: I just said it. Chris Plank coming up. He'll discuss

2656
02:15:30,280 --> 02:15:30,880
Speaker 4: this all with us.

2657
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:31,200
Speaker 3: Next.

2658
02:15:31,320 --> 02:15:41,760
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. I like big but.

2659
02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:50,120
Speaker 2: Anybody around thing in your face you get from wanna

2660
02:15:50,120 --> 02:15:54,400
Speaker 2: pull up, talkybody Fox Sports Radio and Artorers Jason Martin

2661
02:15:54,440 --> 02:15:57,840
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from direc dot Com Studios. I don't know

2662
02:15:57,920 --> 02:16:00,280
Speaker 2: what Alex tice Shirt knows about Chris Plank that he

2663
02:16:00,280 --> 02:16:01,640
Speaker 2: would use this as the lead.

2664
02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:03,680
Speaker 3: In music, but just saying it's happy Father's Day at

2665
02:16:03,680 --> 02:16:05,120
Speaker 3: all the pimps out there, you know, I'm saying.

2666
02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:08,600
Speaker 2: Whatever happens between Chris Plank and Alex Tyshert and their

2667
02:16:08,640 --> 02:16:10,640
Speaker 2: private text messages will stay there.

2668
02:16:10,760 --> 02:16:13,080
Speaker 4: But Chris Plank, you can him at the top of

2669
02:16:13,080 --> 02:16:13,320
Speaker 4: the hour.

2670
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:18,760
Speaker 2: Feelings Bernie Fratto and eleven pm Eastern every Sunday, Clake,

2671
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:21,080
Speaker 2: I believe are you Are you like straight off of

2672
02:16:21,160 --> 02:16:23,080
Speaker 2: vacation or am I totally making that up in my head?

2673
02:16:23,200 --> 02:16:23,440
Speaker 4: No?

2674
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:26,320
Speaker 8: No, no, we got back on Friday night. I'm weird

2675
02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:30,000
Speaker 8: about vacations because I don't like them because our job's

2676
02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:33,240
Speaker 8: vacation and my family forces me to go on them,

2677
02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:36,680
Speaker 8: and all we do is basically go places and buy souvenirs.

2678
02:16:36,720 --> 02:16:40,920
Speaker 8: It's dumb, but yeah, I'm pumped them back. I take

2679
02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:43,320
Speaker 8: the weekend to kind of ramp back up and got

2680
02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:44,840
Speaker 8: a big show coming up for four hours.

2681
02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:46,800
Speaker 4: Should be fun. I've got edded.

2682
02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:50,560
Speaker 8: Down the William Carlson celebration speech from the Golden Knights

2683
02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:54,080
Speaker 8: Parade because this is taking over Twitter right now. But yeah,

2684
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:58,240
Speaker 8: fun night and thunderstorms throughout Oklahoma City, baby, so let's

2685
02:16:58,240 --> 02:16:59,240
Speaker 8: hope we don't lose power.

2686
02:16:59,560 --> 02:17:03,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So Plank while you were away, I mean, like literally,

2687
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:05,680
Speaker 2: maybe the most topical thing that you're gonna have for

2688
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:08,240
Speaker 2: the rest of the summer happened, which was obviously the

2689
02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:11,000
Speaker 2: SEC twenty twenty four schedule coming out. And you know,

2690
02:17:11,040 --> 02:17:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you're available to talk to us,

2691
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:17,039
Speaker 2: because I remember when that news broke in twenty twenty one,

2692
02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:19,120
Speaker 2: you coming on with me and Arnie, you coming on

2693
02:17:19,160 --> 02:17:22,360
Speaker 2: my podcast, and you kind of explain like Oklahoma fans

2694
02:17:22,520 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 2: are tired of the eleven am kickoffs, They're tired of

2695
02:17:25,800 --> 02:17:29,360
Speaker 2: respectfully the Iowa State home games and this home game.

2696
02:17:29,800 --> 02:17:31,879
Speaker 4: They want some big dogs rolling through Norman.

2697
02:17:32,280 --> 02:17:34,800
Speaker 2: Well, you got Alabama and you got Tennessee and oh,

2698
02:17:34,879 --> 02:17:36,840
Speaker 2: by the way, you're going to LSU and Auburn on

2699
02:17:36,920 --> 02:17:39,800
Speaker 2: top of playing Texas on the neutral. I know you

2700
02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:42,959
Speaker 2: weren't in even not even the reaction of Oklahoma fit.

2701
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:45,920
Speaker 2: What is the reaction of Chris Plank, who is going

2702
02:17:45,959 --> 02:17:48,039
Speaker 2: to be on the sidelines for all these games come

2703
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:48,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four?

2704
02:17:48,879 --> 02:17:51,560
Speaker 8: Fired up? I mean, let's go. If you want to

2705
02:17:51,879 --> 02:17:54,680
Speaker 8: be the best, you gotta play the best. And that's

2706
02:17:54,680 --> 02:17:57,520
Speaker 8: what's gotta happen. Oklahoma's got to get better defensively and

2707
02:17:57,800 --> 02:18:00,000
Speaker 8: feel pretty good about what they're doing on the recruiting

2708
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:02,920
Speaker 8: trail and have done on the recruiting trail. It's not

2709
02:18:03,200 --> 02:18:06,199
Speaker 8: like a world I necessarily live in too terribly much,

2710
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:08,360
Speaker 8: but I hear enough about it because I live in

2711
02:18:08,360 --> 02:18:10,560
Speaker 8: a college town and that's all for the most part,

2712
02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:11,879
Speaker 8: they want to talk about as recruiting.

2713
02:18:12,320 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 4: So it's really fun.

2714
02:18:14,200 --> 02:18:20,640
Speaker 8: And this is a fan base that is very hungry

2715
02:18:20,680 --> 02:18:24,080
Speaker 8: because they experienced something last year that hasn't happened since

2716
02:18:24,200 --> 02:18:28,080
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety eight, which was an under five hundred season,

2717
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:30,640
Speaker 8: so they feel good about some of the changes that

2718
02:18:30,680 --> 02:18:34,200
Speaker 8: have been made. You know, I can't help but stopping

2719
02:18:34,240 --> 02:18:37,800
Speaker 8: on one thing here, boys, and that is that's twenty four.

2720
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:40,280
Speaker 8: We got a twenty three season that's staring us right

2721
02:18:40,280 --> 02:18:42,800
Speaker 8: in the face. That is freaking awesome, and it's less

2722
02:18:42,840 --> 02:18:46,800
Speaker 8: than what's seventy days away right now from getting underway.

2723
02:18:46,840 --> 02:18:49,800
Speaker 8: So I get pumped about LSU at night. I get

2724
02:18:49,879 --> 02:18:52,720
Speaker 8: pumped about Alabama coming to Norman. I think it's all great,

2725
02:18:52,800 --> 02:18:55,880
Speaker 8: But I also get excited about, Hey, can they avenge

2726
02:18:55,920 --> 02:18:58,800
Speaker 8: forty nine zip in the Red River rivalry in twenty

2727
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:02,000
Speaker 8: twenty three and they kind of run rough shot through

2728
02:19:02,040 --> 02:19:04,320
Speaker 8: a league that they struggled with last year in one

2729
02:19:04,360 --> 02:19:07,360
Speaker 8: score games. I need to see improvement this year before

2730
02:19:07,400 --> 02:19:10,400
Speaker 8: I'll truly allow myself to get excited about twenty twenty four.

2731
02:19:10,440 --> 02:19:13,160
Speaker 4: But man, you can't help, at least on the field.

2732
02:19:13,320 --> 02:19:15,320
Speaker 8: You can't help, but just get excited about from a

2733
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:18,440
Speaker 8: fan perspective, to go to some new places and go

2734
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:20,879
Speaker 8: against the best weekend and week out, and that's where

2735
02:19:20,879 --> 02:19:22,640
Speaker 8: the SEC is unless you're going to Nashville.

2736
02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:23,959
Speaker 4: Sorry, Jason, That's.

2737
02:19:23,800 --> 02:19:27,879
Speaker 3: All good, Chris. In preparation for twenty twenty four since

2738
02:19:27,920 --> 02:19:33,879
Speaker 3: you mentioned it, how important is this coming season? Because

2739
02:19:33,879 --> 02:19:35,440
Speaker 3: a lot of people look at it and say, whatever,

2740
02:19:35,480 --> 02:19:37,800
Speaker 3: it's the year before they go to the SEC or whatever.

2741
02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:41,440
Speaker 3: But from an Oklahoma perspective, locally down there, not just you,

2742
02:19:41,560 --> 02:19:44,480
Speaker 3: but just the scuttle but the word on the street,

2743
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:48,480
Speaker 3: how important is this season to Oklahoma in terms of

2744
02:19:48,560 --> 02:19:51,680
Speaker 3: momentum and finishing strong so that you walk in on

2745
02:19:51,720 --> 02:19:52,520
Speaker 3: a high note.

2746
02:19:52,959 --> 02:19:57,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's more important on showing improvement. I

2747
02:19:57,680 --> 02:19:59,840
Speaker 8: think that's what needs to happen. And I know that

2748
02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:05,119
Speaker 8: sounds really weird, uh, but that that's what needs to happen.

2749
02:20:05,200 --> 02:20:08,400
Speaker 8: They've gotta It's not Hey, we gotta leave the Big

2750
02:20:08,440 --> 02:20:11,480
Speaker 8: twelve with the title and go in wo or Brett

2751
02:20:11,480 --> 02:20:14,280
Speaker 8: Hart and take that that title with this WCW.

2752
02:20:14,560 --> 02:20:15,959
Speaker 4: I don't think that's what this is about.

2753
02:20:16,320 --> 02:20:19,680
Speaker 8: I think it's more all right, what Brenton Vinnibles is

2754
02:20:19,720 --> 02:20:23,320
Speaker 8: doing defensively is going to be similar to Clemson and

2755
02:20:23,400 --> 02:20:26,640
Speaker 8: the Clee Farrells of the world, the Dexter Lawrences of

2756
02:20:26,680 --> 02:20:30,120
Speaker 8: the world, the studs that went to Clemson. You you're

2757
02:20:30,160 --> 02:20:32,840
Speaker 8: gonna get developed at Oklahoma like you did at Clemson.

2758
02:20:32,879 --> 02:20:36,920
Speaker 8: You're gonna play for titles. So I agree one hundred percent.

2759
02:20:36,959 --> 02:20:38,840
Speaker 8: You've got to win games this year. They got to

2760
02:20:38,879 --> 02:20:41,480
Speaker 8: get better on defense, and I think, you know, you've

2761
02:20:41,480 --> 02:20:44,039
Speaker 8: got to get those stud defensive linemen in because that's

2762
02:20:44,080 --> 02:20:46,720
Speaker 8: gonna be the biggest key. You can't just have one

2763
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:49,480
Speaker 8: in the in the SEC. Listen, there's a difference between

2764
02:20:49,480 --> 02:20:53,520
Speaker 8: being SEC ready and being ready for Alabama, Georgia and LSU.

2765
02:20:53,680 --> 02:20:57,600
Speaker 8: I mean, Oklahoma could go tomorrow and play Mississippi, Mississippi State,

2766
02:20:57,680 --> 02:21:00,720
Speaker 8: South Carolina, Vanderbilt and win games, but it's a much

2767
02:21:00,720 --> 02:21:03,800
Speaker 8: different world whenever you're going in to compete for championships,

2768
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:06,840
Speaker 8: and that's what the goal is for both Oklahoma and Texas.

2769
02:21:06,879 --> 02:21:09,520
Speaker 8: They're not just coming in to cash a paycheck. They

2770
02:21:09,560 --> 02:21:12,680
Speaker 8: expect to win conference titles and play for national titles.

2771
02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:16,120
Speaker 8: So yeah, they've got to show that this is going

2772
02:21:16,200 --> 02:21:19,560
Speaker 8: to be the foundation that is solid, that will work

2773
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:23,600
Speaker 8: and it's not, you know, just a swing and a miss,

2774
02:21:23,720 --> 02:21:26,560
Speaker 8: because I don't think it is. And obviously I'm a

2775
02:21:26,560 --> 02:21:28,680
Speaker 8: complete and total homer, so I'll be the first one

2776
02:21:28,680 --> 02:21:30,720
Speaker 8: to admit to it. But I love the things that

2777
02:21:30,760 --> 02:21:33,800
Speaker 8: they're doing. I don't know if they're ever going to

2778
02:21:33,879 --> 02:21:36,360
Speaker 8: be able to do some of the things offensively that

2779
02:21:36,440 --> 02:21:38,560
Speaker 8: they once did. But holy smokes, they've been crushing it

2780
02:21:38,600 --> 02:21:41,840
Speaker 8: on the recruiting side offensively, with Jackson Arnold coming in

2781
02:21:41,879 --> 02:21:44,000
Speaker 8: as one of the top quarterbacks in the country who

2782
02:21:44,120 --> 02:21:44,960
Speaker 8: might play this year.

2783
02:21:44,959 --> 02:21:47,160
Speaker 4: But I just I really feel like.

2784
02:21:47,200 --> 02:21:50,320
Speaker 8: That there needs to be something shown on defense more

2785
02:21:50,360 --> 02:21:53,840
Speaker 8: than anything else this year, because that's where things really

2786
02:21:53,879 --> 02:21:55,560
Speaker 8: cratered in twenty twenty two form.

2787
02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:57,959
Speaker 2: So Plank, I don't know if Jay says anything else

2788
02:21:57,959 --> 02:22:00,680
Speaker 2: football related, but I do want to ask you something

2789
02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:02,640
Speaker 2: that I don't know if has ever been asked on

2790
02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:05,600
Speaker 2: these airwaves, But I want you to give us the

2791
02:22:05,680 --> 02:22:09,520
Speaker 2: down low on two things. One, you just witnessed one

2792
02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:13,480
Speaker 2: of literally the greatest seasons in the history of college

2793
02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:17,200
Speaker 2: athletics with Oklahoma softball, and I just want to know

2794
02:22:17,560 --> 02:22:21,800
Speaker 2: what makes that program so special? Why have they attained

2795
02:22:21,800 --> 02:22:25,160
Speaker 2: a level so much higher than everybody else. But then two,

2796
02:22:26,200 --> 02:22:30,760
Speaker 2: I'm told that this picture transferring is like Caleb Williams

2797
02:22:30,760 --> 02:22:34,959
Speaker 2: on steroids, Like the best pitcher in college softball just

2798
02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:36,080
Speaker 2: transferred to Nebraska.

2799
02:22:36,160 --> 02:22:38,680
Speaker 8: So what happened with that? Well, Caleb Williams never won

2800
02:22:38,680 --> 02:22:40,640
Speaker 8: a national champion that's what I'm saying. This girl's won

2801
02:22:40,720 --> 02:22:43,039
Speaker 8: like five Yeah, h well, she's won two and she

2802
02:22:43,160 --> 02:22:46,400
Speaker 8: was hurt last year during the playoff run. But I

2803
02:22:46,720 --> 02:22:49,160
Speaker 8: Jordi ball first, as who you're mentioning, and listen, I

2804
02:22:49,200 --> 02:22:51,760
Speaker 8: don't want to get shady Sean and Johnny be Good

2805
02:22:51,800 --> 02:22:53,640
Speaker 8: who get mad? And the guy he's out there who

2806
02:22:53,680 --> 02:22:56,160
Speaker 8: anytime you bring up a female sport, act like you're

2807
02:22:56,240 --> 02:22:59,119
Speaker 8: absolutely assaulting them with your takes. But here we go.

2808
02:23:00,160 --> 02:23:02,360
Speaker 8: It's the best pitcher I've ever seen. Wow, she just,

2809
02:23:02,400 --> 02:23:04,560
Speaker 8: hands down the best pitcher I've ever seen. Is softball.

2810
02:23:04,760 --> 02:23:06,520
Speaker 8: She wanted to go home. She wanted to go back

2811
02:23:06,520 --> 02:23:09,480
Speaker 8: to Nebraska. I think she's gonna do great there. They've

2812
02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:12,320
Speaker 8: already I think they've got more season ticket requests in

2813
02:23:12,440 --> 02:23:16,760
Speaker 8: Lincoln for softball than they had tickets sold like per

2814
02:23:16,840 --> 02:23:20,640
Speaker 8: game last year. They've got more ticket requests, they have capacity.

2815
02:23:20,720 --> 02:23:23,560
Speaker 8: So she'll do great things there. But Oklahoma's not going anywhere.

2816
02:23:23,640 --> 02:23:26,439
Speaker 8: I mean, they're still loaded. They're gonna be the preseason

2817
02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:29,240
Speaker 8: number one team. They'll get two or three studs out

2818
02:23:29,240 --> 02:23:30,880
Speaker 8: of the portal and they're gonna be fine. I mean,

2819
02:23:30,920 --> 02:23:33,560
Speaker 8: fifty three straight wins and you ask you know what

2820
02:23:33,680 --> 02:23:37,440
Speaker 8: makes them so special, It's simple. Patty Gasso, they called

2821
02:23:37,440 --> 02:23:39,680
Speaker 8: the championship mindset. She's their head coach, has done an

2822
02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:42,560
Speaker 8: incredible job, six titles in ten years, and they just

2823
02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:45,560
Speaker 8: they're able to recruit the best players. I mean it's

2824
02:23:46,360 --> 02:23:47,840
Speaker 8: I got a friend of mine where I'm like, gosh.

2825
02:23:47,720 --> 02:23:48,080
Speaker 4: What is it?

2826
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:51,160
Speaker 8: Is it strategies at ex and O's and he'll always

2827
02:23:51,200 --> 02:23:53,720
Speaker 8: love me. They got the best players, man, It's that easy.

2828
02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:56,080
Speaker 8: So that's why George is good. They got the best players.

2829
02:23:56,080 --> 02:23:58,840
Speaker 8: That's why Alabama's good. They got the best players. Oklahoma

2830
02:23:58,879 --> 02:24:01,000
Speaker 8: has the best players, and that's why they've been really

2831
02:24:01,000 --> 02:24:03,640
Speaker 8: good because Patty Gassa their head coaches, found a way

2832
02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:04,760
Speaker 8: to match it all together.

2833
02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:06,200
Speaker 4: So, I mean, that's a story.

2834
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:08,440
Speaker 8: I could talk for ten hours in a row because

2835
02:24:08,440 --> 02:24:11,320
Speaker 8: it's just so amazing to see what this program has done.

2836
02:24:11,400 --> 02:24:14,920
Speaker 8: But it's really helped, I think, to challenge other programs

2837
02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:17,600
Speaker 8: to invest in softball. And they're gonna have a premiere

2838
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:21,000
Speaker 8: facility that you know, once OU opens it, Alabama's gonna

2839
02:24:21,000 --> 02:24:22,760
Speaker 8: want to have a place better, Auburn's gonna want to

2840
02:24:22,800 --> 02:24:24,480
Speaker 8: have a place better. Texas is gonna want to have

2841
02:24:24,520 --> 02:24:27,240
Speaker 8: a place better. So it's really setting a standard in

2842
02:24:27,280 --> 02:24:30,959
Speaker 8: this incredibly fast growing sport that is softball.

2843
02:24:31,160 --> 02:24:36,600
Speaker 3: Grace Lyons, Jada Coleman, Elisa Britto, and as you mentioned,

2844
02:24:36,600 --> 02:24:42,880
Speaker 3: Patty their comments back on June to sixth. I don't

2845
02:24:42,879 --> 02:24:45,680
Speaker 3: know how they were taken locally, but I can tell

2846
02:24:45,720 --> 02:24:49,640
Speaker 3: you that they affected me greatly. And Chris I was

2847
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:58,440
Speaker 3: just curious just the level of courage in a culture

2848
02:24:58,520 --> 02:25:02,640
Speaker 3: that seems to run away from him to go up

2849
02:25:02,680 --> 02:25:05,120
Speaker 3: there and speak about their faith that way, oh and

2850
02:25:05,360 --> 02:25:08,240
Speaker 3: openly talk about Christ and looking to the sky and

2851
02:25:08,360 --> 02:25:11,080
Speaker 3: understanding that they're not home yet and all of it.

2852
02:25:11,520 --> 02:25:13,760
Speaker 3: I've never heard anything quite like. It's one of the

2853
02:25:13,760 --> 02:25:17,640
Speaker 3: most inspirational things I've ever seen. And it just it's

2854
02:25:17,720 --> 02:25:20,560
Speaker 3: just the fact that there's multiple, you know, players that

2855
02:25:20,720 --> 02:25:23,440
Speaker 3: said this, and they got baptized together and all. What's

2856
02:25:23,440 --> 02:25:27,720
Speaker 3: been the reaction locally down there to them standing up

2857
02:25:27,800 --> 02:25:30,879
Speaker 3: so openly for their faith in twenty twenty three where

2858
02:25:30,879 --> 02:25:34,480
Speaker 3: it's where it really is. It shows a ton of courage.

2859
02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:36,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, but that's who they are and that's

2860
02:25:36,800 --> 02:25:40,480
Speaker 8: what they've been, and that's that's part of the foundation

2861
02:25:40,600 --> 02:25:41,400
Speaker 8: that they're built upon.

2862
02:25:41,600 --> 02:25:44,560
Speaker 4: Right, It's not anything that's forced upon you. It's not hey,

2863
02:25:45,080 --> 02:25:47,680
Speaker 4: do you believe in Jesus? You don't, well, you're cut,

2864
02:25:47,720 --> 02:25:48,760
Speaker 4: you know, It's nothing like that.

2865
02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:52,000
Speaker 8: But it's it's it's the foundation of faith, and that's

2866
02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:54,560
Speaker 8: what they're they've always been about. And I don't know

2867
02:25:54,600 --> 02:25:58,600
Speaker 8: if I've ever seen a more kind of biblically and

2868
02:25:58,720 --> 02:26:01,720
Speaker 8: in faith centered person Grace Lyons. And here's what's great

2869
02:26:01,720 --> 02:26:03,200
Speaker 8: about them. And I could sit here and we could

2870
02:26:03,280 --> 02:26:05,840
Speaker 8: we could go on this again all night long. I

2871
02:26:05,879 --> 02:26:08,800
Speaker 8: have two daughters. I know, Jason, you got a young daughter.

2872
02:26:08,959 --> 02:26:11,720
Speaker 8: They're incredible role models, right, they are great. They're not

2873
02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:13,959
Speaker 8: gonna be people that you have to worry about getting

2874
02:26:13,959 --> 02:26:16,920
Speaker 8: in trouble. And if they do, people make mistakes. But

2875
02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:22,200
Speaker 8: everything about what they are is real. It's not some

2876
02:26:22,320 --> 02:26:23,960
Speaker 8: sort of madeip thing. It's why I got so mad

2877
02:26:23,959 --> 02:26:26,080
Speaker 8: when people like, oh, look at her slamming the bat

2878
02:26:26,120 --> 02:26:28,720
Speaker 8: down after a walk or or talking trash like that's

2879
02:26:28,760 --> 02:26:31,000
Speaker 8: just who they are. They're not intimidating the other team.

2880
02:26:31,440 --> 02:26:35,119
Speaker 8: They're literally that enthusiastic about the game, and then they're

2881
02:26:35,160 --> 02:26:39,160
Speaker 8: that enthusiastic about their why. So it's it's really it's

2882
02:26:39,160 --> 02:26:41,800
Speaker 8: something that's been embraced. I hope more people embrace it.

2883
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:44,600
Speaker 8: I understand that for others it's just how dare you?

2884
02:26:44,680 --> 02:26:47,040
Speaker 8: But it's it's really kind of cool. They do prayer

2885
02:26:47,080 --> 02:26:49,960
Speaker 8: circles after every game. Some teams join them, some teams

2886
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:52,680
Speaker 8: like Stanford don't. But in the end, it's just it's

2887
02:26:52,680 --> 02:26:54,320
Speaker 8: what they do. It's who they are, and it's always

2888
02:26:54,320 --> 02:26:57,080
Speaker 8: been their identity since Patty Gasso took over in nineteen

2889
02:26:57,240 --> 02:26:59,960
Speaker 8: ninety four, and that's who I think they're always gonna.

2890
02:27:00,800 --> 02:27:02,200
Speaker 2: By the way, Plank, when I when I made the

2891
02:27:02,280 --> 02:27:04,760
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams analogy, I didn't even put in my head

2892
02:27:04,760 --> 02:27:06,400
Speaker 2: that he did come from Oklahoma, So.

2893
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:09,400
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you did. I thought that was set

2894
02:27:09,440 --> 02:27:10,240
Speaker 3: up thinking of the.

2895
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:12,640
Speaker 4: Most high profile football player I could.

2896
02:27:12,840 --> 02:27:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then immediately I was like, oh, that was

2897
02:27:15,320 --> 02:27:18,400
Speaker 2: kind of won a perfect analogy or a pseudo perfect

2898
02:27:18,400 --> 02:27:20,560
Speaker 2: because he never won a national championship. But I was

2899
02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:22,400
Speaker 2: just thinking the most high profile player to enter the

2900
02:27:22,400 --> 02:27:25,800
Speaker 2: portal in football without doing the two and two of like, oh, yeah,

2901
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:27,039
Speaker 2: he started his career at Oklahoma.

2902
02:27:27,120 --> 02:27:29,240
Speaker 3: How much have you been able to clown Arnie? You know,

2903
02:27:29,320 --> 02:27:32,080
Speaker 3: the whole Arizona softball and how special they were, but

2904
02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:35,760
Speaker 3: now with Oklahoma, Saga liked that question.

2905
02:27:35,840 --> 02:27:40,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you if Arnie actually put logic

2906
02:27:40,600 --> 02:27:43,480
Speaker 8: behind anything or cared about results, and it would matter.

2907
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:46,440
Speaker 8: But anytime one of his takes go wrong, he forgets

2908
02:27:46,480 --> 02:27:48,360
Speaker 8: about and it moves on to the Dolphins winning the

2909
02:27:48,360 --> 02:27:48,920
Speaker 8: Super Bowls.

2910
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:50,120
Speaker 4: That's where we are right now.

2911
02:27:50,240 --> 02:27:52,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if we stuck with the takes

2912
02:27:52,240 --> 02:27:54,680
Speaker 2: that he if he took the takes that he got wrong, seriously,

2913
02:27:54,720 --> 02:27:57,480
Speaker 2: he would have literally been out of a job years ago.

2914
02:27:57,640 --> 02:27:59,959
Speaker 8: Aaron, He's got his job like ten times in his

2915
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:01,440
Speaker 8: been wrong, every single time.

2916
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:02,480
Speaker 4: I miss no.

2917
02:28:02,879 --> 02:28:05,080
Speaker 2: I was out one weekend and he said, if what

2918
02:28:05,160 --> 02:28:06,000
Speaker 2: was it, Jakes the Heat?

2919
02:28:06,040 --> 02:28:09,400
Speaker 3: If the Heat even won a game against either Boston

2920
02:28:09,480 --> 02:28:10,840
Speaker 3: or Philadelphia, he would quit.

2921
02:28:10,920 --> 02:28:12,480
Speaker 8: And of course they won, he would quit his job

2922
02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:14,760
Speaker 8: of Princeton beat Arizona, and he would quit his job

2923
02:28:14,800 --> 02:28:17,480
Speaker 8: at Boise beat Arizona in a bowl game. And I mean,

2924
02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:20,600
Speaker 8: it's just we're on a laundry list of retirements already

2925
02:28:20,600 --> 02:28:20,920
Speaker 8: for the man.

2926
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:24,000
Speaker 4: He's like a cat. He's got nine lives in radio, all.

2927
02:28:23,959 --> 02:28:25,920
Speaker 2: Right, Chris Blake, Well you can hear Chris Blank at

2928
02:28:25,959 --> 02:28:28,600
Speaker 2: the top of the hour filling in for Bertie Frida

2929
02:28:28,680 --> 02:28:31,080
Speaker 2: and of course he will be with Arnie tomorrow at

2930
02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:35,360
Speaker 2: eleven pm Eastern time. Uh, plank Man, we appreciate your time.

2931
02:28:35,600 --> 02:28:38,120
Speaker 2: Glad to have you back, and we'll be listening at

2932
02:28:38,120 --> 02:28:39,800
Speaker 2: the top of the hour. Thank you, thanks, butte appreciate you.

2933
02:28:39,800 --> 02:28:42,480
Speaker 2: Guys here and C Jason. That was Chris Blank and

2934
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:44,160
Speaker 2: hear him at the top of the hour filling in

2935
02:28:44,240 --> 02:28:45,240
Speaker 2: for Bertie Freda.

2936
02:28:44,959 --> 02:28:46,640
Speaker 3: Makes I love that he's excited by the way about

2937
02:28:46,680 --> 02:28:49,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, Like we're all talking about twenty twenty four,

2938
02:28:49,400 --> 02:28:52,000
Speaker 3: but we do have another season before that, and it

2939
02:28:52,040 --> 02:28:53,520
Speaker 3: is seventy days away or so.

2940
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:56,160
Speaker 2: And it's a great point by him, is that for

2941
02:28:56,240 --> 02:28:57,439
Speaker 2: Oklahoma it's important.

2942
02:28:57,440 --> 02:28:59,400
Speaker 4: It's like it's not really a win loss thing.

2943
02:28:59,560 --> 02:29:01,720
Speaker 2: It's a we need to set the tone for who

2944
02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:04,879
Speaker 2: we're gonna be thing, to get some momentum to go

2945
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:07,120
Speaker 2: into the SEC. We'll come back. We'll react to what

2946
02:29:07,160 --> 02:29:10,200
Speaker 2: Planks said. A couple other stories from across the world

2947
02:29:10,240 --> 02:29:13,400
Speaker 2: of sports before we do, though, final time this evening

2948
02:29:13,400 --> 02:29:17,640
Speaker 2: to Seger, if you can put the smile away, I mean, well,

2949
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:19,600
Speaker 2: everyone's taking shots at Arnie tonight.

2950
02:29:19,600 --> 02:29:22,080
Speaker 5: Pa or made me think of tonight's story. Okay, you

2951
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:26,440
Speaker 5: know Arizona Wildcats are Arnie's team, and they've had a

2952
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:29,840
Speaker 5: player at guard where you see a number twenty five

2953
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:33,679
Speaker 5: and Kerr on the back, Steve kerrz Oh never Kerkreasin

2954
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:43,080
Speaker 5: was the guy. Where did he just transfer West Virginia Wildcats? Well,

2955
02:29:43,120 --> 02:29:46,520
Speaker 5: the news is West Virginia basketball coach Bob Huggins has

2956
02:29:46,600 --> 02:29:49,800
Speaker 5: resigned after being arrested for DUI last night. He had

2957
02:29:49,840 --> 02:29:52,840
Speaker 5: a drunk driving arrest at Cincinnati. Is coached in two

2958
02:29:52,920 --> 02:29:55,279
Speaker 5: thousand and four. This is a guy who's just inducted

2959
02:29:55,320 --> 02:29:58,000
Speaker 5: to the Hall of Fame last year. Last month, Huggin's

2960
02:29:58,040 --> 02:30:00,880
Speaker 5: salary was docked a million dollars and he suspended three

2961
02:30:00,920 --> 02:30:03,959
Speaker 5: games after using a slur during a radio interview. In

2962
02:30:04,000 --> 02:30:06,720
Speaker 5: a statement tonight, Huggins said, I have let all of

2963
02:30:06,760 --> 02:30:10,120
Speaker 5: you and myself down. I am solely responsible for my

2964
02:30:10,240 --> 02:30:14,440
Speaker 5: conduct and sincerely apologize. Ricky Fowler is tied for the

2965
02:30:14,520 --> 02:30:17,520
Speaker 5: lead at the US Open with fellow American Wyndham Clark.

2966
02:30:17,640 --> 02:30:20,400
Speaker 5: Fowler just missed a short putt on the final hole tonight.

2967
02:30:20,879 --> 02:30:25,160
Speaker 5: Rory McElroy's one shot back Scottie Scheffler is three back. Fowler,

2968
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:28,480
Speaker 5: by the way, has never won a major tied for

2969
02:30:28,480 --> 02:30:30,640
Speaker 5: the league going to the final round here and this

2970
02:30:30,680 --> 02:30:34,359
Speaker 5: week's tournament is in La Fowlers from southern California Tomorrow.

2971
02:30:34,400 --> 02:30:37,480
Speaker 5: The co leaders won't tee off until five thirty pm

2972
02:30:37,720 --> 02:30:41,400
Speaker 5: Eastern time. The Vegas Golden Knights had their victory parade

2973
02:30:41,440 --> 02:30:45,039
Speaker 5: tonight Sunday night in Las Vegas. US men's soccer plays

2974
02:30:45,080 --> 02:30:47,480
Speaker 5: Canada in the final of the Nations League, a tournament

2975
02:30:47,520 --> 02:30:50,320
Speaker 5: whose rounds started last year. The US will be missing

2976
02:30:50,320 --> 02:30:53,000
Speaker 5: two players due to red cards. Last game Thursday night,

2977
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:56,560
Speaker 5: the Americans just dominated Mexico three nothing, and yet again

2978
02:30:56,600 --> 02:30:59,640
Speaker 5: we saw why the Mexican soccer fans are the worst

2979
02:30:59,680 --> 02:31:02,440
Speaker 5: behavior to fan base in all of North America. The

2980
02:31:02,560 --> 02:31:06,360
Speaker 5: USFL regular season ends tomorrow on FS one and Fox

2981
02:31:06,400 --> 02:31:08,360
Speaker 5: Fox TV. In fact, we'll have a playoff a week

2982
02:31:08,400 --> 02:31:11,800
Speaker 5: from Sunday. Today, the Mighty Pittsburgh Malers at four and six,

2983
02:31:12,480 --> 02:31:15,600
Speaker 5: clinched a playoff spot winning against the New Jersey Generals,

2984
02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:18,959
Speaker 5: and defending champion Birmingham eight and two won its game

2985
02:31:19,080 --> 02:31:22,640
Speaker 5: at Memphis. NASCAR's off tomorrow. Happy Father's Day to Major

2986
02:31:22,680 --> 02:31:25,440
Speaker 5: League Baseball Yankees at Red Sox was not on tonight

2987
02:31:25,560 --> 02:31:28,200
Speaker 5: rained out. They'll play a doubleheader tomorrow. By the way,

2988
02:31:28,200 --> 02:31:31,440
Speaker 5: Boston pitcher Tanner Hawk has a facial fracture after being

2989
02:31:31,520 --> 02:31:33,600
Speaker 5: hit by a line drive last night. He is out

2990
02:31:33,640 --> 02:31:36,720
Speaker 5: of the hospital, so Fox TV showed San Diego's home

2991
02:31:36,760 --> 02:31:39,560
Speaker 5: game as they shut out Tampa Bay to nothing. The

2992
02:31:39,640 --> 02:31:43,959
Speaker 5: Ray's offense went three to thirty with seventeen strikeouts. Padres

2993
02:31:44,120 --> 02:31:47,080
Speaker 5: only had four hits but got the win behind Blake Snell,

2994
02:31:47,200 --> 02:31:51,679
Speaker 5: the former Ray's star pitcher, at six scoreless innings twelve strikeouts,

2995
02:31:51,840 --> 02:31:55,280
Speaker 5: save number seventeen for Josh Hater. San Francisco won its

2996
02:31:55,320 --> 02:31:57,520
Speaker 5: six game in a row, beating the Dodgers in LA

2997
02:31:57,680 --> 02:32:01,840
Speaker 5: fifteen to Nothing's The score time of the game two

2998
02:32:01,840 --> 02:32:04,520
Speaker 5: hours and twenty seven minutes. It was not three and

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02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:07,000
Speaker 5: a half hours two and a half hours for a

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02:32:07,080 --> 02:32:08,440
Speaker 5: fifteen to nothing final.

3001
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Speaker 3: JD.

3002
02:32:09,240 --> 02:32:12,119
Speaker 5: Davis a pinch grand slam It traveled about four hundred

3003
02:32:12,160 --> 02:32:14,119
Speaker 5: and forty feet That was a got him a nine

3004
02:32:14,200 --> 02:32:16,840
Speaker 5: nothing lead in the sixth Dodger's second place in the

3005
02:32:16,920 --> 02:32:19,959
Speaker 5: NL West, four games behind the Diamondbacks, who pulled out

3006
02:32:19,959 --> 02:32:22,280
Speaker 5: a victory on FS one tonight in the late game,

3007
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:25,800
Speaker 5: beating Cleveland sixty three. Arizona hit three home runs in

3008
02:32:25,840 --> 02:32:28,440
Speaker 5: the bottom of the eighth Saint Louis sent the Mets

3009
02:32:28,480 --> 02:32:31,280
Speaker 5: to another loss, five to three. You mentioned earlier X

3010
02:32:31,320 --> 02:32:34,400
Speaker 5: third Basement in Saint Louis, David Frees declined in invitation

3011
02:32:34,480 --> 02:32:37,280
Speaker 5: to join the Cardinals team Hall of Fame. Atlanta led

3012
02:32:37,360 --> 02:32:39,520
Speaker 5: nine to nothing in the third inning with four homers

3013
02:32:39,560 --> 02:32:43,360
Speaker 5: against Colorado, eventually beat the Rockies ten to two. Braves

3014
02:32:43,400 --> 02:32:45,840
Speaker 5: have won five straight. Matt Olson at a Grand Slam.

3015
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:49,080
Speaker 5: The win to Bryce Elder, who's five and one. Atlanta's

3016
02:32:49,120 --> 02:32:52,760
Speaker 5: record forty five and twenty six. Rockies have lost four straight.

3017
02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:56,080
Speaker 5: What a game This afternoon on FS one from Kansas City,

3018
02:32:56,120 --> 02:32:58,800
Speaker 5: the Royals ended a ten game losing streak, coming back

3019
02:32:58,840 --> 02:33:01,200
Speaker 5: to beat the Angels ten to nine. The Royals in

3020
02:33:01,240 --> 02:33:04,480
Speaker 5: the last three innings scored eight times. Shoe Otani with

3021
02:33:04,520 --> 02:33:08,400
Speaker 5: his twenty third home run that leads the American League RBIs.

3022
02:33:08,440 --> 02:33:10,760
Speaker 5: He has fifty six that's tied for the league lead.

3023
02:33:11,320 --> 02:33:13,959
Speaker 5: His batting average is an even three hundred that's top

3024
02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:16,080
Speaker 5: ten in the American League. And by the way, he

3025
02:33:16,160 --> 02:33:19,000
Speaker 5: pitches a little bit too. Philadelphia won its fifth straight

3026
02:33:19,040 --> 02:33:21,240
Speaker 5: game a twelve inning win at Oakland three to two.

3027
02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:24,040
Speaker 5: The A's at home are nine and twenty eight. Today's

3028
02:33:24,040 --> 02:33:28,120
Speaker 5: attendance twelve thousand to watch the Oakland offense with runners

3029
02:33:28,120 --> 02:33:31,440
Speaker 5: in scoring position go one for nineteen. White Sox won

3030
02:33:31,440 --> 02:33:34,279
Speaker 5: an eleven innings at Seattle. Reds won their seventh straight.

3031
02:33:34,320 --> 02:33:37,560
Speaker 5: Cubs won their fifth in a row. Milwaukee shutout Pittsburgh,

3032
02:33:37,720 --> 02:33:41,520
Speaker 5: victories for Texas and Miami, and Minnesota shut out Detroit

3033
02:33:41,520 --> 02:33:44,480
Speaker 5: to nothing. The Twins record now thirty six and thirty five,

3034
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:48,360
Speaker 5: alone in first in the AL Central. At the College

3035
02:33:48,360 --> 02:33:50,959
Speaker 5: World Series, number one, Wake Forest scored two times in

3036
02:33:51,000 --> 02:33:54,039
Speaker 5: the bottom of the eighth to beat Stanford. LSU beat Tennessee.

3037
02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:55,360
Speaker 5: Back to you, Thank you.

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02:33:55,400 --> 02:33:57,880
Speaker 2: Very much, Steve sagred Seger. Have a great evening and

3039
02:33:58,040 --> 02:34:01,640
Speaker 2: be listening to you tomorrow. Radio aeron Torres Jason Martin

3040
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:05,080
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from thee Tireck dot Com studios. Coming up,

3041
02:34:05,240 --> 02:34:07,000
Speaker 2: we'll put a bow on the show. A couple of

3042
02:34:07,080 --> 02:34:10,400
Speaker 2: topics that we did not get to. We'll discuss those next.

3043
02:34:10,480 --> 02:34:11,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The first pitch on the way, Davis blast one to

3045
02:34:17,280 --> 02:34:20,000
Speaker 1: center field, going back on the ball.

3046
02:34:20,280 --> 02:34:21,880
Speaker 4: At the wall.

3047
02:34:21,760 --> 02:34:26,840
Speaker 8: God the JD Davis Grand Slam.

3048
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Speaker 4: That was JD.

3049
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Speaker 4: You know, Jason, we usually use.

3057
02:34:52,200 --> 02:34:54,959
Speaker 2: This time to look ahead to the week ahead, but

3058
02:34:55,560 --> 02:34:58,120
Speaker 2: outside of an NBA drafter, we all know who's going

3059
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:01,720
Speaker 2: number one. H It seems as though there's not a

3060
02:35:01,720 --> 02:35:04,480
Speaker 2: ton of previews. So instead, what I want to do

3061
02:35:05,240 --> 02:35:07,640
Speaker 2: a story that I think we're gonna plan to get

3062
02:35:07,680 --> 02:35:09,600
Speaker 2: to and then you know, we did jaw a few

3063
02:35:09,640 --> 02:35:11,320
Speaker 2: times and Plank joined us and all that.

3064
02:35:12,120 --> 02:35:12,760
Speaker 4: Bradley beal.

3065
02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:15,480
Speaker 2: It appears as though, you know, this has been like

3066
02:35:15,560 --> 02:35:20,000
Speaker 2: the never ending Will he ever request that of Washington?

3067
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:20,480
Speaker 4: Will he not?

3068
02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:20,800
Speaker 3: Well?

3069
02:35:20,840 --> 02:35:23,240
Speaker 2: It appears as though he is ready to move on.

3070
02:35:23,400 --> 02:35:26,600
Speaker 2: He does have a no trade clause, but Shamstrania reported

3071
02:35:26,640 --> 02:35:28,800
Speaker 2: earlier in the day it's probably either going to be

3072
02:35:28,920 --> 02:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Phoenix or Miami for his services in the future. You

3073
02:35:32,600 --> 02:35:35,280
Speaker 2: got any strong takes on where Bradley Beal's gonna be

3074
02:35:35,320 --> 02:35:37,119
Speaker 2: playing in the NBA next year.

3075
02:35:39,720 --> 02:35:42,039
Speaker 3: I think it has to be Miami. If you're Miami,

3076
02:35:43,320 --> 02:35:45,600
Speaker 3: I mean he's still it feels like he's been in

3077
02:35:45,640 --> 02:35:48,840
Speaker 3: the league forever. And I mean he's been there for

3078
02:35:48,840 --> 02:35:51,360
Speaker 3: ten years, but he's not even thirty years old yet. Wow,

3079
02:35:51,920 --> 02:35:54,680
Speaker 3: he's twenty nine years old right now, which I just

3080
02:35:54,720 --> 02:35:56,680
Speaker 3: looked that up and I was shocked, Like I was, like,

3081
02:35:56,760 --> 02:35:59,440
Speaker 3: he's probably what like thirty four No, I mean he's

3082
02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:01,720
Speaker 3: played it of games, He's played a ton of minutes.

3083
02:36:02,120 --> 02:36:06,080
Speaker 3: They've all been in Washington. He's like the longer running

3084
02:36:06,440 --> 02:36:10,520
Speaker 3: version of Damian Lillard in a lot of respects, and

3085
02:36:10,560 --> 02:36:12,480
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure he was he like went there

3086
02:36:12,480 --> 02:36:14,600
Speaker 3: and demanded out. I think they're looking at a rebuild

3087
02:36:14,640 --> 02:36:18,560
Speaker 3: because they know, look, they've got to reset the entire franchise.

3088
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:21,480
Speaker 3: As great as he's been, they're not gonna win with him,

3089
02:36:21,480 --> 02:36:22,840
Speaker 3: and they want to give him a chance to go

3090
02:36:22,879 --> 02:36:25,400
Speaker 3: win somewhere else. So I think it's probably a mutual deal.

3091
02:36:26,560 --> 02:36:28,680
Speaker 3: But he certainly put in his time there if he

3092
02:36:28,720 --> 02:36:32,240
Speaker 3: wants to go somewhere else. But so the deals that

3093
02:36:32,280 --> 02:36:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm seeing right now that are popping up. According to

3094
02:36:35,879 --> 02:36:40,119
Speaker 3: Sean Scherania, the athletic is Phoenix would send DeAndre Ayton

3095
02:36:40,840 --> 02:36:43,600
Speaker 3: some cap filler, or they would send Chris Paul and

3096
02:36:43,800 --> 02:36:47,760
Speaker 3: Landry Shammitt to Washington to get Bradley Beal, or the

3097
02:36:47,800 --> 02:36:51,680
Speaker 3: Heat would send Kyle Lowry Duncan Robinson multiple first round

3098
02:36:51,680 --> 02:36:55,039
Speaker 3: picks to Washington for Beale. I like Duncan Robinson, even

3099
02:36:55,040 --> 02:36:57,520
Speaker 3: though he came up kind of small in the NBA Finals.

3100
02:36:58,080 --> 02:37:00,280
Speaker 3: Lowry is, you know, he's been in a league for

3101
02:37:00,320 --> 02:37:03,080
Speaker 3: a while, and Beal is certainly going to help you

3102
02:37:03,120 --> 02:37:05,640
Speaker 3: more there, because what you really need is a guy

3103
02:37:05,680 --> 02:37:09,080
Speaker 3: that can score the basketball for you to take some

3104
02:37:09,120 --> 02:37:11,360
Speaker 3: of the pressure off of Jimmy Butler, who just seemed

3105
02:37:11,400 --> 02:37:14,039
Speaker 3: to run out of gas in the finals against a

3106
02:37:14,080 --> 02:37:16,800
Speaker 3: better team. If I'm Miami, I do what I have

3107
02:37:16,840 --> 02:37:18,920
Speaker 3: to do to get Bradley Beal. Even with the minutes

3108
02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:22,560
Speaker 3: he's played, he is a flat out sharpshooter. He seems

3109
02:37:22,600 --> 02:37:24,560
Speaker 3: to be a class guy as well. With somebody that's

3110
02:37:24,560 --> 02:37:27,400
Speaker 3: stuck around a franchise no matter what, for such a

3111
02:37:27,400 --> 02:37:32,560
Speaker 3: long period of time, if it's me and I'm Miami,

3112
02:37:32,640 --> 02:37:34,680
Speaker 3: I want I want that, And if I'm Beale, I

3113
02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:36,039
Speaker 3: think I want to go there. I think I want

3114
02:37:36,040 --> 02:37:38,240
Speaker 3: to be under Spolstra. I don't know if I trust

3115
02:37:38,840 --> 02:37:42,240
Speaker 3: the health scenarios for joining a Kevin Durant team with

3116
02:37:42,480 --> 02:37:45,039
Speaker 3: Devin Booker and not a whole lot of depth and

3117
02:37:45,080 --> 02:37:48,280
Speaker 3: not a whole lot of defense. Like for me, I

3118
02:37:48,320 --> 02:37:49,520
Speaker 3: think I want to go to Miami.

3119
02:37:49,959 --> 02:37:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really funny with Beal and Phoenix, Like it

3120
02:37:54,720 --> 02:37:58,560
Speaker 2: sounds like fun on paper. I mean, isn't Brad Beal,

3121
02:37:59,480 --> 02:38:02,840
Speaker 2: Devin book and Kevin Durant with zero depth behind them?

3122
02:38:02,959 --> 02:38:05,959
Speaker 4: Just Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving and James Harden.

3123
02:38:05,840 --> 02:38:08,760
Speaker 2: With like slightly different uniforms and maybe maybe a little

3124
02:38:08,760 --> 02:38:11,680
Speaker 2: bit better personality. Like we've seen the thing where you

3125
02:38:11,760 --> 02:38:13,920
Speaker 2: just have two or three superstars in no bench. It

3126
02:38:13,959 --> 02:38:16,760
Speaker 2: never works. So I'm with you on that. Really quick.

3127
02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:21,240
Speaker 2: You mentioned Dame Lillard. I find the conversation around him

3128
02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:24,840
Speaker 2: weird because it's all precipitated. I don't know if that's

3129
02:38:24,879 --> 02:38:28,040
Speaker 2: the right word, but it stems from an interview where

3130
02:38:28,080 --> 02:38:30,560
Speaker 2: he was asked, if you ever had to leave Portland,

3131
02:38:30,560 --> 02:38:32,520
Speaker 2: where would it be, and he said Brooklyn or Miami,

3132
02:38:32,600 --> 02:38:35,160
Speaker 2: And now it's like a where is Dame Lollard gonna

3133
02:38:35,240 --> 02:38:37,040
Speaker 2: end up? So I bring it up to say, do

3134
02:38:37,080 --> 02:38:39,960
Speaker 2: you think that he will move? Not even necessarily before

3135
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:41,400
Speaker 2: we get on air next year, but do you think

3136
02:38:41,440 --> 02:38:43,080
Speaker 2: he'll be in Portland to start next year?

3137
02:38:44,640 --> 02:38:47,119
Speaker 3: I kind of do, just because we've kind of played

3138
02:38:47,120 --> 02:38:49,120
Speaker 3: this game before and he ends up staying there. He's

3139
02:38:49,200 --> 02:38:52,760
Speaker 3: just wired differently. I can't imagine why you would go

3140
02:38:52,760 --> 02:38:55,680
Speaker 3: to Brooklyn now, Yeah, like that that's not going to

3141
02:38:55,720 --> 02:38:57,320
Speaker 3: be a winning place. Like if you could go to

3142
02:38:57,360 --> 02:38:59,080
Speaker 3: the Knicks now, I'd be curious about it. But I

3143
02:38:59,080 --> 02:39:01,120
Speaker 3: don't think the fit is there now because of the

3144
02:39:01,120 --> 02:39:03,920
Speaker 3: way that they're being built. I mean, certainly he would

3145
02:39:03,920 --> 02:39:06,560
Speaker 3: make them better even than what they have now. Whatever

3146
02:39:06,600 --> 02:39:08,360
Speaker 3: they had to move, he would be a better version

3147
02:39:08,400 --> 02:39:12,000
Speaker 3: of that. But I don't see the Brooklyn scenario in

3148
02:39:12,080 --> 02:39:15,600
Speaker 3: it at all. Certainly you could see Miami working out,

3149
02:39:15,680 --> 02:39:17,560
Speaker 3: but I just tend to think he's still gonna be

3150
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:19,840
Speaker 3: in Portland at least for the foreseeable future.

3151
02:39:20,080 --> 02:39:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to be clear, I think that that was

3152
02:39:22,440 --> 02:39:24,720
Speaker 2: the reaction was like that that doesn't make sense, But

3153
02:39:24,760 --> 02:39:27,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't make Brooklyn that is, but it doesn't make

3154
02:39:27,200 --> 02:39:30,240
Speaker 2: sense because it was a question that was kind of nonsense.

3155
02:39:30,240 --> 02:39:32,039
Speaker 2: And like the one thing I'll say about Dame Lillard,

3156
02:39:32,640 --> 02:39:35,039
Speaker 2: I just think there's much more of a thirst in

3157
02:39:35,240 --> 02:39:38,320
Speaker 2: our business for Dame Lillard to leave, so we have

3158
02:39:38,400 --> 02:39:41,640
Speaker 2: conversation more than there is for Dame Lillard himself to

3159
02:39:41,800 --> 02:39:42,920
Speaker 2: actually leave as well.

3160
02:39:43,000 --> 02:39:44,600
Speaker 4: So we gotta get out of here.

3161
02:39:44,640 --> 02:39:46,039
Speaker 2: First of all, I want to thank the crew, Alex

3162
02:39:46,080 --> 02:39:50,200
Speaker 2: tyshirt producer Pat Steve de Sager on the updates from

3163
02:39:50,240 --> 02:39:52,520
Speaker 2: a partner Jason Martin. I'm Aaron Torres. Make sure to

3164
02:39:52,760 --> 02:39:55,000
Speaker 2: download the podcast. My goodness, do we talk a lot

3165
02:39:55,040 --> 02:39:58,600
Speaker 2: of stuff. Chris Plank's next. You can listen to him

3166
02:39:58,800 --> 02:40:00,800
Speaker 2: top of the hour. He's got a lot to talk about.

3167
02:40:00,879 --> 02:40:03,400
Speaker 2: Chris Blank coming up. This is Fox Sports Radio.