1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, and 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: there's Chuck and Jerry sitting in for a day. So 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: this is short stuff about the beware of the pas. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: That's right. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: We're talking about BPAs specifically, well BPA, which is how 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: do you pronounce that. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Josh, I'm going with this phenol or bisphenol. 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: Hey, bisphenol A. 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: There are other bisphenols apparently which I didn't know, and 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: apparently you know. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: None of these are good. 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 3: For you, even though the FDA is like, it's fine 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: in the amounts that you're getting it. 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: Stop being so uptight, everybody. Yeah, they're used in all 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: sorts of plastics, polycarbonate in particular. But that stuff shows 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: up everywhere. It can be in the stuff that lines 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: tin cans, it can be in your dental work, it 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: can be in contact lens, storage containers, baby bottles used 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: to be. I don't think it is anymore, but it 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: was everywhere. It's also now still today. The greatest exposure 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: that people get on average is from holding receipts thermal 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: paper receipts. 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, those. 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: Are coded with BPA, so just be aware of that. 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: I saw a study that said just holding one for 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 1: ten seconds exposed you to unsafe levels of BPA. 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: You know, many years ago when we lived in Los Angeles, 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: And it's the jokes Emily still laughs at to this 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 3: day because it's just very me very sardonically. Chuck was 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: we left a Blockbuster video and it was like Princh, Princh, 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: and they did that thing where there was a ticker 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: tape of like three feet of receipts each you know, 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: connected by a little tiny piece of paper, and he 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: handed them to me and I just went, thank you 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: for the receipts. And Emily thought that was the funniest 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: thing ever, and she still says. 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: It to this day. 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see being in the right place, in 39 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: the right frame of mind and just finding that awesome. 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, really stoned at Blockbuster. 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Sure do you remember when you rented? 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, who knows. 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: But now that I don't feel so bad now that 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: I know that those things are loaded with BPAs. 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: I don't want those in my pocket. 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: No, you don't. And the reason why we're even like 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: talking about BPA is all thanks to a geneticist named 48 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: doctor Patricia Hunt, who was studying the ovaries of mice 49 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: back in the late nineties, nineteen ninety eight. That was 50 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: her jam. She was not looking for BPA, she was 51 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: not studying BPA at all, but BPA came and found her. 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: Essentially, Yeah, she saw these chromosotal errors start popping up. 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 3: They went from two percent to forty percent in these 54 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: mice that she was studying in the control group, and 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: that you know, there was miscarriage, there were birth effects 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: in these little baby mice. It's all very sad. And 57 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: she ran some more tests and she was like, you 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: know what, all of these cages and water bottles that 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: these mice are drinking out of have BPA in them, 60 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: and I think that's where it's coming from. So she 61 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: swapped that stuff out with non BPA stuff. Everything returned 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: to normal, and she was like, I think I found 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: something really bad here. 64 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: Everybody, Yeah, she did. 65 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: She also really started to examine what BPA did. Disrupted 66 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: fetal development. The eggs of the fetus that had its 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: development disrupted, that fetus's eventual babies those were also disrupted 68 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, she was like, I think something 69 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: is really bad here. And what she turned up is 70 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: that BPA acts as an endocrine disruptor, meaning it mimics 71 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: a hormone in our body, which does all sorts of 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: stuff because our hormones are very very well precisely timed, 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: and you go over here and do this, you go 74 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: over here and do that. And if something shows up 75 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: on mass and is like we're gonna do all of 76 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: this at once, there's all sorts of catastrophic things that 77 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: can happen to the human body. 78 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 79 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: And in this case, in the case of BPA, what 80 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: it really does is affect estrogen, and estrogen has a 81 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: huge effect on a lot of stuff. I think it 82 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: can affect the behavior of more than two hundred genes 83 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: and almost every organ and tissue in the body can 84 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: be affected by estrogen. So this was a big deal 85 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: at the time. There were a lot of initial reactions 86 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: of like, you know, we're not sure how bad this stuff. 87 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: Is for you. 88 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: We're not going to do anything right now, Like the 89 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: evidence is like not really conclusive because we're not mice 90 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 3: and so we're not necessarily going to experience the same 91 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 3: health effects. And again these limits are like the amount 92 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: that we're getting shouldn't harm it, Like, you know, children 93 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: and adults. 94 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Right, that was wrong. It turns out that the limits 95 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: that we were being exposed to were considered harm or 96 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: are considered very harmful. Now, but what's something weird, Just 97 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: a little thing to kind of put aside. It actually 98 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: turns out that low doses of BPA have worse effects 99 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: than larger doses of BPA. 100 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird. 101 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: I didn't see anywhere that that was explained, so I 102 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: came up with my own explanation. It's three stooges syndrome, 103 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: which is how remember mister Burns had every disease, but 104 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: none of them were affecting them because they were all 105 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: trying to get through the same door at once. I 106 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: think that's what happens when you have a bunch of BPA. 107 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: They all get stuck trying to get through the same 108 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: door at the same time, and it doesn't affect you 109 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: like a little bit does, which can make it right 110 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: through the door. 111 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: All right, doctor Clark, We're going to take a break 112 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: and ponder that, and we'll be right back with more 113 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 3: on BPAs. 114 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: I gotta say I'm very impressed. 115 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, But I feel like I should say I 116 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: am not a doctor, and you really shouldn't listen to 117 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: me with any medical stuff. Whatsoever. 118 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: But I called you a doctor. 119 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: Oh well, then I'm a doctor. 120 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: All right. 121 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: So, in the United States, the FDAs, who was in 122 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: charge of regulating the BPA use, and in twenty ten 123 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: they did a four year review of BPA studies which 124 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 3: resulted in twenty fourteen. 125 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: Basically saying, you know what. 126 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: We're upholding our previous no observed adverse effects level label. 127 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: As long as you don't get more than five milligrams 128 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 3: of body weight per kilogram of body weight per day, 129 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: you'll be fine. 130 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that that is a level that 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: most people are never exposed to, right. 132 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: Well, that's what they say. 133 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: I mean, we should talk about some of the things though, 134 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: I know you mentioned a few things. 135 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: But let me see here. 136 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: Type two diabetes potentially in adults, insulin resistance in children 137 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: and adults, polycystic ovary syndrome, obesity and high pretension in 138 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: children and adults. 139 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of terrible stuff. And again this is 140 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: not to mention like the pre term births, developmental abnormalities, 141 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: like all sorts of different stuff that has to do 142 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: with reproduction, breast cancer, tumors, like all of these things. 143 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: Like it used to be, like, like you said, we're 144 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: not mice. And you know that whole settled science bs that, 145 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: like the merchants of doubt used to put out like 146 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: just shamelessly, like if you look at meta analyzes of 147 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: studies about BPA and its effect on the human body, 148 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: like you said, that's what comes up. It's obviously you 149 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: can never prove anything like without a shadow of a doubt. 150 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: That's just how science works. But it's essentially to the 151 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: point where you, the individual person can feel pretty good 152 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: about not wanting BPA anywhere near you. 153 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. For sure. 154 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: Europe, of course is leading the way in front of us. 155 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: In April, just a few years ago, in twenty twenty three, 156 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: they're at DA which is the European Food Safety Authority, 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: said all right, we've seen the research and I think 158 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: they they lowered their safe level a lot. I think 159 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: to point two what is that to point two nanograms, 160 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: which is two billions of a gram or point two 161 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: billions of a gram per day for like, you know, 162 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: a human body. So that's that's way lower than ours, is. 163 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and it's even lower than what their previous 164 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: one was. Their previous one was still way lower than ours. 165 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: So ours was five milligrams per kilogram. I think it's 166 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: the same still, their old one was four micrograms per 167 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: kilogram of body weight, so now it's their Their new 168 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: revised safe level is twenty thousand times lower than their 169 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: own previous safe level, ten billion trillion ish times lower 170 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: than are our safe level in the United States. And 171 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: when they when the European Food Safety Authority basically decided this, 172 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: there were all sorts of like, like, you know, is 173 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: this true? Is this right? You know? And of course 174 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: industry was pushing back on it. The only paper I 175 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: found that was critical of it an academic journal paper 176 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: that was critical of their their methods of data collection. 177 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: I was like, funded this. It was funded by the 178 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: American Chemistry Council. So they're like, it seems pretty like 179 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: the EFSA has over the years or since April twenty 180 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: twenty three, continued to issue defenses of its decision and 181 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: not like we decided, so shut up. They're like, we decided, 182 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: and here's why we decided. Here's all the data we 183 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: did this on. So it seems pretty legitimate that they're like, 184 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: this is way worse than we have been taking it, 185 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: and especially in the United States. 186 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, well if you go to the FDA website today 187 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: date April thirtieth, twenty twenty six. It says FDA's current perspective, 188 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: based on its most recent safety assessment, is that BPA 189 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: is safe at the current levels occurring in foods. Based 190 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: on FDA's ongoing safety review of scientific evidence, the available 191 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: information continues to support the safety of BPA for the 192 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: currently approved uses in food containers and packaging. But if 193 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 3: you don't buy that, and I don't, I don't think 194 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: doctor Josh, does you need to look for a label 195 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: that says BPA free that will indicate that the plastic 196 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: does not have buy cheese. 197 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: Bis spinal Is that what you said? He did bis 198 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 2: spent all A. 199 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: But like I said, it could have bispon al F 200 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: or bispon all S or something else, and that may 201 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 3: be just as risky. 202 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 203 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: Here's how you remember that. It's like a bisk made 204 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: of polyphen hal Yeah. 205 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I love bisc That's a shame. 206 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you're like, Okay, BPA free, great, give 207 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: it to me. It turns out, like you said, there's 208 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: other bisphenols. Bisphenol F and S are now used as substitutes. 209 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: They're not nearly as studied as BPA has been. But 210 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: essentially the studies that are coming back are like, yeap 211 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: just as bad as BPA does all the same things. 212 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: So essentially the focus on BPA itself should have been 213 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: expanded from the outset to bisphenols, not just BPA. And 214 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: so yeah, now there's BPF and bps all over the place. 215 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: And if you think that you what you have is 216 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: BPA free, is probably still has bisphenols in it. 217 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: Why don't they just find something else? 218 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: Well, they did, it's called glass. But the problem is 219 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: glass stainless steel containers. They often come with plastic tops 220 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: and lids, and you have to be careful with that too, 221 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: because even if the lids metal, it may still have 222 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: a plastic liner on the top of it, and that 223 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: probably has at least some sort of plastic associated with 224 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: it that could be getting in whatever you're drinking out of. 225 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: But do you have to have abys final to have 226 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 2: plastic at all? 227 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guarantee if you really looked into it, 228 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: it's like half a cent less, right, something safe? 229 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: And that's your answer, you know, Yeah. 230 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: One day we're going to get there, Chuck, I hope 231 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: we're still alive to see it. But one day we're 232 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: going to get there where people actually take care of 233 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: other people and we all care about one another, we 234 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: all act like it. 235 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: We're going to get there, that's right. 236 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: And in the meantime, you and I and every other 237 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: member of the Stuff you should normally is going to 238 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: try and be squeezing through that same door together. 239 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: Also in the meantime, Short Stuff is out. 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