Speaker 1: On this episode of the Check one Round two series
Speaker 1: is over.
Speaker 2: One second Round series is around, and why said it
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 1: One is definitely going to a Game seven and the
Speaker 1: other two we have absolutely no idea about.
Speaker 2: So let's break them all down for you.
Speaker 1: Give some thoughts about those series, as well as not one,
Speaker 1: but two interviews with local experts Denver Zach Bye, who
Speaker 1: is covering the Nuggets Timberwolve series, and Eric Chiafalo what
Speaker 1: a name from Dallas covering the mazrath Is Thunder series.
Speaker 2: Man, I love this time, yere Anthony, I know that
Speaker 2: you're listening.
Speaker 1: Are they about to hire JJ Reddick in La, because,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's gonna be content for days. Let's
Speaker 1: drop right into it, drop that motherfucking beat that should
Speaker 1: be reON.
Speaker 2: We're almost the summer. I don't want it to end.
Speaker 1: The Second Round series or almost over a lot of surprises,
Speaker 1: though pretty exciting, what was not a shock was the
Speaker 1: Boston made lightish work of the Cleveland Cavaliers. For one,
Speaker 1: we knew that they were gonna lose one game they
Speaker 1: always do, especially Game two went about as much as
Speaker 1: you would expect, especially true because the Cavs went without
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell for two games, which you knew that was
Speaker 1: gonna be a big problem. And if now, if you
Speaker 1: listen to the chatter out there, it's like not really
Speaker 1: good on the streets for Donnovan Mitchell. People are already saying, oh,
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell thinks the rest of the Cavaliers are immature.
Speaker 1: And then donnad Mitchell's gonna come out on Twitter and say, hey,
Speaker 1: they cappen. And then Donovan Mitchell in that last game
Speaker 1: in Boston was wearing a brand new Cleveland Cavalier's hat
Speaker 1: on that looked like somebody from the PR staff said hey,
Speaker 1: you need to put this on.
Speaker 2: In terms of showing solidarity Donovan.
Speaker 1: Some people are saying that he played his last game
Speaker 1: as a Cavalier because he's probably not going to extend.
Speaker 1: Then the other people come out and say donovand Mitchell
Speaker 1: actually loves it in Cleveland, which said no one ever,
Speaker 1: regardless the heater circling, the Lakers are circling, the Brooklyn
Speaker 1: Nets are circling, Cleveland is getting circled.
Speaker 2: Like a vulture in the desert.
Speaker 1: Darius Garland, his camp has come out and said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not really fucking with playing with Donovan Mitchell, our
Speaker 1: roles have been diminished, and it's kind of like Donovan
Speaker 1: Mitchell or US then it's like, okay, Cia Dia. Ever
Speaker 1: since Darius Garland hurt his what is orbital boom face?
Speaker 2: He got surgery.
Speaker 1: Ever since his face got fucked up, he has not
Speaker 1: been the same. And when you go three for seventeen
Speaker 1: from the field and the close out game without your
Speaker 1: star player, it's on you, baby boy.
Speaker 2: You do not look good.
Speaker 1: Darius Garland is said to be unhappy with his role
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and we'll ask out if Donovan does stay.
Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye by.
Speaker 1: The way, like rumor mill, can we just let the
Speaker 1: body go cold a little bit before all these post mortems. No,
Speaker 1: they've got these things ready to hit publish before the
Speaker 1: games and the series are even over.
Speaker 2: It's fucked up. I kind of love it though.
Speaker 1: As for the Celtics, they look dominant. No team in
Speaker 1: modern memory can win in five games multiple times and
Speaker 1: yet still have a fan base that does not believe
Speaker 1: in them and questions whether the team can win it
Speaker 1: all myriad of issues, Tatum's lack of takeover the game,
Speaker 1: Gene Drew Holliday disappears for games at a time. Christas
Speaker 1: Porzingis is injury history pops up while simultaneously he is
Speaker 1: injured and is not playing in playoff games. We have
Speaker 1: strange coaching decisions, but Boston just keeps winning, so we
Speaker 1: don't really know what they are until they face a
Speaker 1: true competitor. Sure, they haven't played anyone yet, but guess what.
Speaker 1: They can only play the teams that are in front
Speaker 1: of them, and they will get either an Indiana Pacers
Speaker 1: team that cannot play any defense, or they will get
Speaker 1: a very banged up next team. This could be one
Speaker 1: of the least impressive runs to the finals we've seen
Speaker 1: in a long time, probably since the Milwaukee Milwaukee Bucks
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: Critics, of course will point out that Miami without Jimmy
Speaker 1: and Cleveland without Donovan are very different teams. But like
Speaker 1: I said, they await either Indy or New York. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that series though. The Knicks, as you know,
Speaker 1: beat the shit out of India in Game five in
Speaker 1: the Garden.
Speaker 2: But did you know what.
Speaker 1: Got them to play loose? Got them to play competitively
Speaker 1: and difficultly hardly?
Speaker 2: I don't know how to.
Speaker 1: Say that got them to play hard every single possession.
Speaker 2: Apparently it was a long.
Speaker 1: Drawn out fart, a fart in the locker room pregame.
Speaker 1: Fred Katz was there. He chronicled it on Dan Patrick
Speaker 1: No Dan Lebattart one of the dance and you know
Speaker 1: it was Josh Hart probably so much Mike and Ikes
Speaker 1: that caused all kinds of gastric distress.
Speaker 2: The fart apparently was like a ten second long fart.
Speaker 2: Almost looked like a.
Speaker 1: Whoopee cushion, sounded like Wookie pushion had gone off. Thank God,
Speaker 1: because the Knicks keep winning, and it's crazy. It's crazy
Speaker 1: because they're so banged up that you feel like it
Speaker 1: has to come down and the guillotine has to hit
Speaker 1: him in the neck at some point. But Tibbs just
Speaker 1: keeps coaching his ass off. They keep getting something out
Speaker 1: of another player that you don't expect. All Tibbs does
Speaker 1: is find a way to put poor little Andrew nemhard
Speaker 1: back on to Brunson, and Brunson just puts up buckets
Speaker 1: on him. It's like, oh, you know what, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have Deuce McBride start games now, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: have guard to guard pick and roll you think you
Speaker 1: can put in Andrew Nemart on Deuce McBride. Oh no, no, baby,
Speaker 1: because Aaron Nesmith is getting switched up on and now
Speaker 1: it's buckets for days. We almost had a fifty bucket
Speaker 1: again for Jalen Brunson and he doesn't even have any
Speaker 1: left on the shots. The other two series are very,
Speaker 1: very exciting, but ogn and Obi is still out indefinitely.
Speaker 1: So all I want is a Game seven at the
Speaker 1: Garden on a Monday fingers crossed. But if you're a
Speaker 1: Knicks fan, you say, no, no, I do not want that.
Speaker 1: Let's close this baby out. Let's talk about Okce, though,
Speaker 1: where the MAVs now are up three two.
Speaker 2: Very surprising.
Speaker 3: Shit.
Speaker 1: I thought the MAVs team would be an early exit
Speaker 1: at best.
Speaker 2: The PJ.
Speaker 1: Washington trade excellent, the Daniel Gafford trade excellent.
Speaker 2: They need to close this thing.
Speaker 1: Out in Dallas because if they go back to Oka, see,
Speaker 1: it's going to be rocking in there. But the issue
Speaker 1: for the Thunder are many Nobody other than Shake can
Speaker 1: get a bucket consistently. And everybody said this team was
Speaker 1: too young, but it doesn't even look like that's the case.
Speaker 1: It looks like they're just not tall enough. They play
Speaker 1: plenty mature, but they don't play big. They lack height,
Speaker 1: they lack strength.
Speaker 2: We talked about it all year long.
Speaker 1: They need a backup big. They need a backup big.
Speaker 1: They need to backup. They wouldn't do it. A lot
Speaker 1: of people think Donovan Klingon could be the answer. A
Speaker 1: lot of people think it's Zach Edie. But six' Nine
Speaker 1: Jalen williams ja y L I N i think That's
Speaker 1: jay Will he's the second tallest guy on the roster
Speaker 1: Besides Chet.
Speaker 2: Holmgren Once poku got shipped.
Speaker 1: Out the team has an average height of sixty.
Speaker 2: Six then you look At.
Speaker 1: Dallas they have nine players that are six seven or
Speaker 1: taller and four over six.' ten so they are getting,
Speaker 1: out muscled they are getting, out rebounded and they are
Speaker 1: getting straight fucking.
Speaker 2: Bullied, tough okay so he could still win.
Speaker 1: The series but does it even, matter really You, play
Speaker 1: minnesota You, play denver you're getting fucked up in the
Speaker 1: game because they're even Big, than dallas and they're even
Speaker 1: more Skilled. Than dallas they're even more Athletic. Than dallas speaking, Of, Which, minnesota.
Speaker 2: Okay okay minnesota we.
Speaker 1: See, You okay denver gets their ass handed.
Speaker 2: To them again on.
Speaker 1: The road jamal couldn't get, it going, Mpj awful jokic looking.
Speaker 1: Mortal again minnesota has, calmly back and everything seems like it.
Speaker 1: Was before the, crazy, thing though Was the denver looked
Speaker 1: like they're about to fuck. Them up they went up nine,
Speaker 1: to two then there was like an eleven zero run
Speaker 1: which turned into a twenty nine to, four run and
Speaker 1: then all of, a sudden it's night night sleep. Mask
Speaker 1: one fifteen seventy was the.
Speaker 2: Final, score?
Speaker 1: Outrageous outrageous how do? You lose how do you lose
Speaker 1: by forty five when they're the?
Speaker 2: Defending champs could you have a? Little honor what a?
Speaker 2: Weird series what a? Weird series six.
Speaker 1: Games split evenly three to three and only one good game,
Speaker 1: in There number. Game one the other five. Were blowouts
Speaker 1: no idea what to Think about? GAME seven a lot
Speaker 1: of People like denver why?
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you but who the?
Speaker 1: Fuck knows we will preview the conference Finals, on monday,
Speaker 1: of course but For now i'm hoping for three. Game sevens,
Speaker 1: all right it is time to welcome our, First Guest,
Speaker 1: zach bye Of the Drive on denver's one oh four POINT,
Speaker 1: Three fm zach broke.
Speaker 2: Down the Nuggets versus.
Speaker 1: Wolve series he was joined by my other, Co Host
Speaker 1: ryan Horbought And, nick cashew which airs on my other
Speaker 1: SHOW at mgm tonight on the radio most, major markets
Speaker 1: as well as live on video on twitch. AND YouTube
Speaker 1: i don't know if you, knew that but you should
Speaker 1: check it. Out live it's. Pretty fun zach is one
Speaker 1: of my. Favorite guests he is. So passionate he did
Speaker 1: it with cell. Phone too his hand was rattling all over,
Speaker 1: the place the screen.
Speaker 2: Was shaking he was. So excited check. It out let's get.
Speaker 2: Into It.
Speaker 4: Zach bye is the host Of the drive one four
Speaker 4: to three the Fan. In denver he jumps on. With,
Speaker 4: us so is what is just kind of the mood
Speaker 4: right now for you and i'd say people in general?
Speaker 4: Right now does it feel Like the nuggets have gone Back,
Speaker 4: to hey this Is the nuggets team we remember or
Speaker 4: heading into? This game Is it minnesota and what they
Speaker 4: did the first couple of games is still kind of
Speaker 4: in the back of your mind a.
Speaker 5: Little, bit, well guys thanks for having me.
Speaker 6: Back on it feels Like what minnesota did in games
Speaker 6: One in game two was like a. Year ago, this
Speaker 6: series it like self, contained series deserves like its. Own
Speaker 6: documentary from the Way that game two, went down it was.
Speaker 5: The fourth largest loss FOR.
Speaker 6: An nba champion on their, home floor followed by the
Speaker 6: second largest playoff win in the history of. The Franchise
Speaker 6: rudy gobert missed a game because he had. A Baby
Speaker 6: tim Connolly missed game five with. An Achilles jamal murray
Speaker 6: didn't get suspended for throwing a heat pack and a
Speaker 6: towel onto. The floor like it's been an absolute. Journey
Speaker 6: Here but i'll tell, YOU this I Think nuggets nation,
Speaker 6: in general and you can include me, in this have
Speaker 6: returned to the supreme confidence that we had before the,
Speaker 6: series started based on the championship Equity that denver built
Speaker 6: up a year ago going sixteen and four on their
Speaker 6: way to. A Title and i'll, tell, you guys, You
Speaker 6: know minnesota, is fantastic, all right. THEY are i believe
Speaker 6: this team is going to win a championship at some
Speaker 6: Point In anthony edwards are, run here but they're just
Speaker 6: a little bit ahead. Of Schedule, and Jokic who i've
Speaker 6: been referring this season to as a basketball version of,
Speaker 6: artificial intelligence because he downloads whatever you throw at him
Speaker 6: and spits out the equation to. Solve it now ais
Speaker 6: a little, bit new so it might Have taken jokic
Speaker 6: a game or two to figure. It out but by
Speaker 6: game three you could see he has Solved, the Timberwolves
Speaker 6: And michael malone deserves a ton. Of credit they have
Speaker 6: made incredible ADJUSTMENTS that i won't. Ida here i'm sure
Speaker 6: you guys have seen them with your, own eyes but
Speaker 6: From having Jokic And aaron gordon bring the ball up
Speaker 6: the floor instead Of Having jamal, murray hounded to doing
Speaker 6: inverted screens.
Speaker 5: To get jokic's.
Speaker 6: Post looks we just started seeing that They're Throwing aaron
Speaker 6: gordon in early actions To Get rudy gobert moving in
Speaker 6: early in possessions as opposed to just roaming around by.
Speaker 6: The RIM so i think from coaching And, From jokics
Speaker 6: denver has Figured The minnesota. Timberwolves out they're just a
Speaker 6: little bit early to the biggest party on, the PLANET
Speaker 6: and i Love the nuggets to finish.
Speaker 1: This, series yeah it does look like that two to
Speaker 1: o lead was just an eternity.
Speaker 2: To go everybody was freaking.
Speaker 1: Out myself I've been i've been like supremely confident In
Speaker 1: the nuggets pretty much all.
Speaker 2: Season LONG and i thought, to.
Speaker 1: Myself if if they, tell us, you know if, this
Speaker 1: Team If michael Malone And calvin moved tell us that
Speaker 1: the role players are, good Enough that i'm gonna. Believe
Speaker 1: him and then then what we saw in the first two, Games,
Speaker 1: was oh maybe they Are Missing bruce brown. A lot
Speaker 1: maybe they Are Missing uncle jeff. A lot how are
Speaker 1: they using their role players Now the nuggets in different
Speaker 1: ways that is allowing this team to be able to
Speaker 1: be a lot.
Speaker 6: More balanced it's a great, A, question trista because coming into,
Speaker 6: THE series i thought that one of the bigger Advantages
Speaker 6: that minnesota has was.
Speaker 5: Their bench they had the sixth man of, the year
Speaker 5: but it's not.
Speaker 6: JUST him, i Mean It's kyle anderson coming off the
Speaker 6: bench and a couple others that have been. Really impactful
Speaker 6: and the ANALOGY that i tried to make before the
Speaker 6: series is That the nuggets bench is more of a
Speaker 6: shield just don't get killed in The non, jokics minutes
Speaker 6: And the timberwolves bench was more of, a sword a
Speaker 6: sword that can actually gas, you Well the nuggets bench
Speaker 6: is now holding the shield and. The sword and We've
Speaker 6: Seen christian brown multiple times in this series get to.
Speaker 6: Double figures that's who he was last year during the
Speaker 6: post where IN The nba finals he's scored fifteen points
Speaker 6: as a rookie Most And sam cassel For the rockets
Speaker 6: in the early to.
Speaker 5: Mid nineties he's returned.
Speaker 6: To that form after a bit of a regression type
Speaker 6: of Year For christian brown in his. Second year but
Speaker 6: it's also two other guys that have made a huge
Speaker 6: impact in a. Reserve role And It's, reggie jackson thirty
Speaker 6: three year old veteran coming off a, you know a
Speaker 6: two for two game. From three and it's also a
Speaker 6: guy that never gets talked about on any of the,
Speaker 6: talk shows but it's it's Longtime Veteran justin holliday has
Speaker 6: made ten threes in. This, series guys this is a
Speaker 6: guy that did not play during the. REGULAR season i
Speaker 6: just want to. Reemface it he didn't Play. For Denver
Speaker 6: But michael malone in big moments trust, veteran players and
Speaker 6: you're seeing a Guy Like peyton watson not checking into
Speaker 6: games and the trust is more built over the last
Speaker 6: ten Years With, justin holliday and that Decision For michael
Speaker 6: malone to adjust within this series and start playing a
Speaker 6: guy who had barely played during the regular season is
Speaker 6: a massive feather in the Cap Of michael malone.
Speaker 7: As, WELL zak i gotta, ask you how do you
Speaker 7: Feel About Michael.
Speaker 5: Porter?
Speaker 7: Junior tonight his points prop is thirteen and. A half
Speaker 7: he only had six on two to ten shooting the
Speaker 7: other night, before that, four points not a whole lot
Speaker 7: of volume low two. Of four you think this could
Speaker 7: maybe be a game where he gets.
Speaker 5: SOME looks i actually think it. COULD be, i like
Speaker 5: where your.
Speaker 6: Head's, at obviously, YOU know i don't believe in using
Speaker 6: the word lock by, any means but. He's due, AND
Speaker 6: also i Don't think minnesota's approach is going to be
Speaker 6: to Single Cover nikola. Jokicic anymore after he literally in that,
Speaker 6: game five he put away his scalpel and brought out
Speaker 6: his axe and said this is going to, get ugly
Speaker 6: and he absolutely murdered the defensive player of the year
Speaker 6: and wore. His, skin okay they can't have that. Approach
Speaker 6: again they cannot have that, approach again, All Right so
Speaker 6: i'm saying that to say as it Relates To Michael.
Speaker 6: PORTER jr i could see the Most aggressive doulve Going
Speaker 6: toward jogics tonight and he always makes the right to
Speaker 6: sist and that supercomputer brain, of HIS and i think
Speaker 6: a beneficiary of that two passes away could be Like
Speaker 6: A Michael porter junior wide.
Speaker 5: Opening corners he's.
Speaker 6: ABSOLUTELY due i could see him score between seventeen and twenty.
Speaker 1: Points tonight has anybody's reputation spiked and then like very
Speaker 1: quickly dropped as much as the defensive Prowess Of Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert because game one and earlier on in the Series,
Speaker 1: against phoenix we, were like, oh man this Is The
Speaker 1: rudy gobert on the perimeter that we love. TO see
Speaker 1: i Swear after, GAME five i think everybody's now just
Speaker 1: Out On.
Speaker 2: Rudy gobert it was like, you said wore.
Speaker 1: His skin that's what made me think, of, It Like
Speaker 1: rudy gobert might be his reputation might just.
Speaker 6: Be COOKED and i understand why you're, saying it and,
Speaker 6: it's FAIR but i will, say this that's what it
Speaker 6: looks like when you're playing one of the ten greatest
Speaker 6: PLAYERS in. Nba history mac dab in the middle of. Their,
Speaker 6: PRIME like i don't think It's A rudy. GOBERT issue
Speaker 6: i think he's deserving of The defensive player Of. The year,
Speaker 6: but like, no matter like what defensive player in the
Speaker 6: front court could you Single up jokis?
Speaker 5: With now like he just he.
Speaker 6: Murders people AND so i think it more has to
Speaker 6: Do with jokics Because Traditionally go bear does about as
Speaker 6: good of a job as you Can, against jokics especially in.
Speaker 6: Single coverage so it's, just guys we, are WATCHING like
Speaker 6: i want to put this on your radar now we.
Speaker 6: Are watching this is not a guy who's just top
Speaker 6: five in all time. Triple doubles this is not a
Speaker 6: guy who's just won A, third mvp ninth PLAYER in
Speaker 6: nba history to. Do it if they do over the
Speaker 6: next MONTH what i think they're, gonna do and that's
Speaker 6: win back to, Back championships jokics will be THE. Finals
Speaker 6: mvp you know how many PLAYERS in nba history have
Speaker 6: three regular season MVPs and two. Finals, MVPs ready here's.
Speaker 6: The list in, my opinion it's the greatest basketball players
Speaker 6: who have, ever played and you could put them in
Speaker 6: any order that, You Want Kareem, Abdul Jabbar, Michael, Jordan,
Speaker 6: Lebron James, Magic Johnson. Larry bird that's. The list you
Speaker 6: will need a six finger here in about. A month
Speaker 6: if things go down THE way i think it's gonna,
Speaker 6: go down he will have a top ten argument. Without
Speaker 6: question and THAT'S what i think that murder scene in
Speaker 6: game five. Was about it Was about jokic and Not.
Speaker 6: Necessarily gobert it's just.
Speaker 4: So descriptive THAT'S what i love. ABOUT it, i mean
Speaker 4: you're totally right Talking to Zach BY vet. Mgm tonight
Speaker 4: we know How Important nakola jokic obviously is To, the
Speaker 4: nuggets but we also have seen How Important jamal murray
Speaker 4: is to their success. As well are we feeling better
Speaker 4: about his health a? LITTLE bit i understand, the numbers
Speaker 4: listening to sixteen points last game seven or fourteen shooting
Speaker 4: and least shooting fifty percent from, The, FIELD like, i
Speaker 4: mean is it kind of at the? Point now are
Speaker 4: he's starting to at least get closer to the guy
Speaker 4: that we expect to see?
Speaker 5: Out? THERE yeah i.
Speaker 6: Think physically, you know we haven't even really talked too
Speaker 6: much about him physically in the last day or two because.
Speaker 5: Of what we Saw in.
Speaker 6: Game three, you Know after game two they had that
Speaker 6: long layoff where they played On a monday and didn't
Speaker 6: play Again. Till friday that was Huge For jamal murray
Speaker 6: and he's got his bounce back and he had his
Speaker 6: best game of the Series in game three And in,
Speaker 6: game five and the stats that you, just quoted we
Speaker 6: saw a plus elite level Defense From anthony Edwards On.
Speaker 6: Jamal murray he poured all of his energy to try
Speaker 6: to Slow down jamal and, guess what. It worked the
Speaker 6: problem is the problem is Is that anthony did ant
Speaker 6: man did not have enough in the tank offensively after
Speaker 6: giving that all world. Performance defensively that's, why it's in my,
Speaker 6: humble opinion we need to slow down a little bit
Speaker 6: With The Kobe Bryant michael.
Speaker 5: Jordan comparisons he may.
Speaker 6: Get, there gay but What made Michael and kobe special
Speaker 6: Specifically is michael Was Winning defensive Players the year in
Speaker 6: the same year he was winning the. Scoring Title, kobe
Speaker 6: bryant at twenty one, years old was First TEAM all
Speaker 6: nba defense while being one of the leading scorers IN
Speaker 6: the nba and was taking over overtime Against the pacers
Speaker 6: IN The nba Finals when shaquille O'Neal was sitting on
Speaker 6: the bench with. Foul TROUBLE so i want TO see
Speaker 6: i want to See ant man get to a point
Speaker 6: where he gets that version of himself Defensively Against jamal
Speaker 6: murray and then is also willing to or not, willing
Speaker 6: to but capable of holding up his end of the
Speaker 6: bargain at an elite. Level offensively and he was unable
Speaker 6: to do That in. Game five but that's ULTIMATELY why
Speaker 6: i think We saw jamal not play as well is
Speaker 6: because he, was smothered smothered like a breakfast Burrito By.
Speaker 1: Anthony edwards zach was so passionate that his screen, Was
Speaker 1: moving it, Was shaken it.
Speaker 2: Was shaken, SO no i. LOVED it i. Loved it
Speaker 2: was making.
Speaker 1: Me laugh so given that that Matchup Between jamal murray
Speaker 1: And Aunt, anthony edwards and we know That the timberwolves
Speaker 1: in a close, out game we're gonna need a lot
Speaker 1: From ant, man offensively how do you think about both
Speaker 1: of those? Two players? Point props where where does it break?
Speaker 1: For you does it break in terms Of ant man
Speaker 1: maybe slowing down defensively And Letting jamal murray go off
Speaker 1: and having a better. Game himself or is it something
Speaker 1: like we saw maybe in last Game, in denver, you know.
Speaker 6: And you're asking Me About anthony edwards point, Prop, SPECIFICALLY yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean there's obviously a Correlation Between anthony edwards Defensively
Speaker 1: on Jamal and jamal's point Prop And anthony edwards having
Speaker 1: gas in the tank.
Speaker 5: For.
Speaker 3: Himself yeah you, know what, home man it's a, GOOD
Speaker 3: question i would, say tonight based on what we saw
Speaker 3: in the, LAST game i think you see a way
Speaker 3: extra Emphasis On anthony edwards offensively and taking his foot
Speaker 3: off the gas a, little bit a little.
Speaker 6: Bit defensively, but also, you know you KNOW what i
Speaker 6: just thought of when you when you're asking, That, question
Speaker 6: trista is that the officiating Crew in game two that
Speaker 6: allowed the most physical game OF basketball i have seen
Speaker 6: it in this modern era OF.
Speaker 5: The nba that's who's on the, Game.
Speaker 6: Tonight okay and my wonder Is will minnesota be able
Speaker 6: to play its more prison ball brand of basketball that
Speaker 6: we Saw in? Game two and this just be a
Speaker 6: really low scoring game where if you can get to,
Speaker 6: ninety five you're gonna. Win IT so i would Say
Speaker 6: like i'm Looking at i'm looking At Ant man beam more,
Speaker 6: aggressive Offensively but i'm also thinking he might be able
Speaker 6: to get away with more defensively With That mark jones
Speaker 6: led crew that wants to see blood if they're gonna
Speaker 6: put air in.
Speaker 4: The, whistle big big night For The denver nuggets looking
Speaker 4: to close Out. The Timberwolves zach bye Live from denver
Speaker 4: one oh four to Three.
Speaker 5: The fan hey see you guys here and enjoy.
Speaker 3: The, game.
Speaker 2: Okay good Stuff.
Speaker 1: From zach's we got another guest, As Well eric Chiafalo
Speaker 1: of dallas one oh five Three. The fan he, Breaked
Speaker 1: down he broke down the mass. For us also joined
Speaker 1: MY bet mgm crew to talk a little bit ABOUT this.
Speaker 1: Okac series a ton of cool Information ABOUT. Luca, pj
Speaker 1: washington the Advancement Of kyrie, irving's defense and a lot
Speaker 1: more about How the MAVs than what they need to
Speaker 1: do to.
Speaker 2: Move on so let's Jump into.
Speaker 8: But when it comes To the, lucas, situations man this
Speaker 8: is he was so it was he was himself. Last
Speaker 8: night it was wonderful and that's exactly What the mavericks
Speaker 8: need if they want to go and have. Any success
Speaker 8: in the next round versus The t wolves Or, the
Speaker 8: nuggets and certainly in. The finals you've got to get
Speaker 8: the best Out. Of luca they've been getting by in
Speaker 8: this series with him being a shell, of HIMSELF and
Speaker 8: I was i was surprised to see the version of
Speaker 8: him that we saw. LAST night, i mean generally in,
Speaker 8: the playoffs you know what you're getting Out. Of luca
Speaker 8: he's an all timer when it comes to rising to.
Speaker 8: The occasion he's been a superstar since he basically set
Speaker 8: foot in, the league and he usually just gets better in.
Speaker 8: The postseason clearly injured this. Time around the physicality of
Speaker 8: being in the doorger chamber and everything that they're throwing
Speaker 8: Defensively at Luca, And kyrie i'm in, the physicality it's.
Speaker 8: All There but luca just showing up. LAST night I
Speaker 8: mean i, was confused just turn, it on turn. It
Speaker 8: off like a lot of people here locally look to
Speaker 8: it being more of a mental Thing with luca than a.
Speaker 8: Physical thing if he doesn't get off to a, good
Speaker 8: start if he's, missing shots he wants, To, Know oh,
Speaker 8: I'm injured i'm, banged Up but I'm not i'm not
Speaker 8: a bad. Basketball player i'm not missing. These shots i'm.
Speaker 8: Being fouled he's always arguing with, the rest but not.
Speaker 8: Last night he cut back. On that he was just he,
Speaker 8: was focused he. Was dialed he didn't look like he had,
Speaker 8: a limp he had. More lift he made his. THREE ball,
Speaker 8: i mean It was it, was CRAZY and, I guess
Speaker 8: i guess we can expect that in the next game
Speaker 8: because you get the two days, of rest and knowing
Speaker 8: that you can get a couple of days off before
Speaker 8: you get Into The western, conference finals trying to close
Speaker 8: this thing out as quickly as possible as exactly what
Speaker 8: you want want, to do so hopefully the injury stubs.
Speaker 8: Behind him but it. Was weird it was weird to
Speaker 8: see how just how awful he looked and injured he
Speaker 8: looked in the first, few games and then last night
Speaker 8: it was it was a completely. Different player you Look.
Speaker 1: At Luca And kyrie irving and you think, to, yourself
Speaker 1: like obviously two, very potent creative. Shot creators and when
Speaker 1: the trade, went down there was a lot of people
Speaker 1: who wondered whether these two players could. Actually coexist the
Speaker 1: Thing that i'm the most, Impressed about i'd love to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts On this eric is just how they're stepping.
Speaker 2: Up defensively You've.
Speaker 1: Got luca averaging three point three deflections per game in
Speaker 1: the Playoffs and kyrie right behind him at two. Point
Speaker 1: nine how are we getting this level of defense from
Speaker 1: guys who really haven't been hanging their hat their whole careers.
Speaker 5: On.
Speaker 8: DEFENSE yeah i think it's a great observation and it's
Speaker 8: another sort of head scratcher Of How jason kidd can
Speaker 8: get it out of. These guys he did it a
Speaker 8: couple of years ago When the mavericks went On Their
Speaker 8: Western conference, finals run and that was a bad, defensive
Speaker 8: team and then all of the sudden second half of
Speaker 8: the season into the postseason they got things figured out
Speaker 8: and then it went away. From them they've been bad
Speaker 8: at defense last season and for a good chunk up
Speaker 8: until the, trade deadline when you make the TRADE. For,
Speaker 8: pj washington you make the Trade For. Daniel gafford now
Speaker 8: you have more of a rim protective presence There, in
Speaker 8: gafford and then of COURSE. With pj washington and the,
Speaker 8: versatility defensively, the athleticism all that. Was huge AND then
Speaker 8: i think when you have when you, have superstars and
Speaker 8: we see this IN. The, nba now the qualities of a,
Speaker 8: head coach how high on the priority list is it
Speaker 8: when it comes to being able to manage your superstar
Speaker 8: personalities and get the best out. Of them and you're
Speaker 8: seeing it for sure when it Comes To jason Kidd
Speaker 8: and Luca And jason Kidd and kyrie and the relationships
Speaker 8: that he has with both of. Those guys they respect
Speaker 8: them and when he calls, him out they generally rise to.
Speaker 8: The occasion and this is definitely the most professional and
Speaker 8: mature Version of KYRIE that i think we've, Seen ever
Speaker 8: and a lot of that probably has to do with
Speaker 8: some of the installation of being being kind of buddy
Speaker 8: buddy with the, Head Coach, jason kidd but also having
Speaker 8: the respect, for him and then same actually in the
Speaker 8: top of the front office with General Manager nico harrison
Speaker 8: and the relationship that. They have it Seems like kyrie.
Speaker 8: Is happy he understands his role on. This team he
Speaker 8: Knows that luca is supposed to be, The man so
Speaker 8: How can kyrie go about affecting the game without being
Speaker 8: the number? One option and he's done, a really really
Speaker 8: nice job. Of that we're actually kind of wanting to
Speaker 8: see that his scoring go up a little bit more
Speaker 8: in this, particular series but his fingerprints are all over.
Speaker 8: The game and when when when you get the when
Speaker 8: you get the buy in from, your superstars everybody else
Speaker 8: has to buy in. As, well defensively and so you
Speaker 8: can see so much, of defense especially if you're if
Speaker 8: you have A, high Iq which Kyrie and, luca do
Speaker 8: and if you have some semblance, Of athleticism, my gosh
Speaker 8: if you just give great, effort defensively you can you can.
Speaker 8: Get by and so they they're finally. Doing that they've
Speaker 8: picked their spots, at times but at this point the,
Speaker 8: post season they're doing it a heck of a lot.
Speaker 8: More so it's super impressive The Way jason kidd now
Speaker 8: not once but twice in the season has flipped the
Speaker 8: defense on its rear end basically and got it to
Speaker 8: where it's NOT only, i mean it's not a weakness,
Speaker 8: it is it's a strength. For them they play really
Speaker 8: really good defense.
Speaker 1: Right, Now yeah kyrie impacting winning in ways that we've never.
Speaker 2: Seen before YOU. Mentioned.
Speaker 1: PJ washington i just wanted to follow up on that
Speaker 1: not a great game, last GAME and i think probably
Speaker 1: if it was me just in terms of, my observations
Speaker 1: a lot of that coming from, foul trouble early foul
Speaker 1: trouble going to. The bench, for, you like how MUCH.
Speaker 1: Has pj washington been impacting this team on both ends of,
Speaker 1: the floor and then in this, next game what should
Speaker 1: we expect for him more of what we've seen early
Speaker 1: on in the series or what we.
Speaker 8: Just, saw yeah it's a great question. As well he's
Speaker 8: he's a guy that has been hugely impactful since since
Speaker 8: the day they traded, for him especially on the. Defensive side,
Speaker 8: now offensively you've seen him start to start to get
Speaker 8: to those places where you know he's. Capable of he
Speaker 8: showed It. In charlotte he's. A, guy hey you're not
Speaker 8: super surprised he dropped twenty five, points tonight but his
Speaker 8: three ball and especially his corner three was just god
Speaker 8: awful the entire season With the mavericks, at least and
Speaker 8: then once you get him into the postseason here and into,
Speaker 8: the series all of, a sudden he's knocking down the
Speaker 8: shots and he's kind of been the. Veteran presence this
Speaker 8: is a guy who also talks about wanting to Be,
Speaker 8: in DALLAS and i think there's a comfort level that
Speaker 8: he has and he's sort of he's rising the same
Speaker 8: way you're seeing some other. Guys do but he's been
Speaker 8: huge for. This series, without him you. Don't win you
Speaker 8: Don't win games two. And three he was putting the
Speaker 8: scoring onus, on Himself where kyrie is getting all sorts
Speaker 8: of blitzes and double teams sitting, his way they're forcing
Speaker 8: the ball out of, His hands luca not being himself.
Speaker 8: At all somebody had to, step UP. And pj, washington
Speaker 8: said let me be. That guy and it's. Been huge
Speaker 8: it's been. Absolutely huge but you can't rely, on that
Speaker 8: and so ultimately you were going to get a night
Speaker 8: like last night where, still, impacting winning still making, you
Speaker 8: know great, play defensively and big time stuff on the
Speaker 8: offensive side when it comes to late in the game
Speaker 8: and big possessions that he was able to capitalize on
Speaker 8: following up on a misshot going for the dunk that
Speaker 8: was huge late in. The game so he's another guy
Speaker 8: that understands his role and is capable of erupting a little.
Speaker 8: Bit offensively i'm not going to bank on him doing
Speaker 8: that again like he Did in games two, and three
Speaker 8: where he's scoring twenty. Plus points but in terms of
Speaker 8: the impact, on, winning yeah he's a guy That the
Speaker 8: mavericks have really.
Speaker 7: Really appreciated, Right now minnesota is up thirty one to
Speaker 7: fourteen after the. FIRST quarter i guess the two surprise
Speaker 7: teams In the west this year would Be ok See,
Speaker 7: in Minnesota and minnesota has more vets on. The team
Speaker 7: But okay see's. Really young but do you almost, feel like,
Speaker 7: you know with home court advantage that game six is
Speaker 7: almost like a must Win the MAVs are three and
Speaker 7: a half, point favorites or do you feel like home
Speaker 7: court advantage doesn't. REALLY matter i Guess what i'm asking
Speaker 7: is If okay see gets the, job done you get a,
Speaker 7: game seven how nervous are you going? To be because
Speaker 7: they're a, young team you know they're probably gonna be
Speaker 7: a little nervous to close that. Thing OUT but i
Speaker 7: almost feel Like the MAVs have to get This job
Speaker 7: i've done. At home do you feel the same way?
Speaker 8: Or no? Not, REALLY well, i mean you definitely don't
Speaker 8: want to give a. Team life, you what you want
Speaker 8: to end this thing as quickly as you can and
Speaker 8: going BACK into okac where it's lowed one game sample anything,
Speaker 8: can happen you want to. AVOID that i would still
Speaker 8: be confident That the masks can get. It done they've
Speaker 8: proven they can Go Into oklahoma city and. Get victories
Speaker 8: they've been a pretty dang good road team as a matter,
Speaker 8: of fact top five all. Season LONG so i don't
Speaker 8: think it overly. Affects them and they've got they're they're
Speaker 8: a little bit more. Battle tested as you MENTIONED, with
Speaker 8: okac you're seeing the signs of them the youth and
Speaker 8: and just what we understand about the history of the
Speaker 8: sport where you have to earn your stripes and get
Speaker 8: the skins in the wall in, the postseason and you're
Speaker 8: going to have to take some l's before you really
Speaker 8: graduate to, championship status and THAT'S what i think we're
Speaker 8: seeing in real TIME. WITH okc i fully Expect the
Speaker 8: mavericks to come out and put It On. OKA see
Speaker 8: i will Take the mavericks. Money line i'll Take the mavericks.
Speaker 8: To cover I'll expect luca to be a similar version
Speaker 8: of what we saw in last night's game here in.
Speaker 8: GAME six i think this is a take care of
Speaker 8: business For. THE mavericks i don't think they're going to
Speaker 8: dog around and get themselves Back in, okay see but
Speaker 8: even if, THEY do I still i'd. Be nervous i'll
Speaker 8: Tell you i've had four quarters. Of NERVES but i
Speaker 8: would still Think the mavericks are a team capable of
Speaker 8: going in to a road environment and getting.
Speaker 4: The depth Talking, to eric you AND follow. Betmgm tonight,
Speaker 4: You know dallas obviously going To The western conference finals
Speaker 4: would be great for, the organization Probably make luca a little.
Speaker 4: More happy there's the possibility they lose. This series there's
Speaker 4: always the conversation about a star IN the nba and
Speaker 4: then their future in a, certain market and there have,
Speaker 4: been whispers certainly outside About maybe luca and what his
Speaker 4: future would Be. In dallas there does it kind of
Speaker 4: feel like maybe this team they've put together is something
Speaker 4: that he might be a little bit, Happier with like
Speaker 4: what is the Conversation around luca and his? Future there,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 8: It's funny because, you're right and anytime with a, young
Speaker 8: superstar there's always those conversations, of hinting even projecting two
Speaker 8: and three years about what a player might want, to
Speaker 8: do and especially with the way last, season ended Where
Speaker 8: the MAVs are tanking at the end of the season
Speaker 8: obviously to garner the best possible take necessary after having
Speaker 8: Traded For. KYRIE irving, i mean last year was a
Speaker 8: total total failure and in. Every sense so that was
Speaker 8: that was a topic this time last year that we were,
Speaker 8: certainly like this is kind of a maker to break,
Speaker 8: a year you or to some extent because you never
Speaker 8: know when he starts kicking around the idea, OF hey
Speaker 8: i want to go somewhere ELSE because i want. To
Speaker 8: win but now You've Seen nico harrison and company with
Speaker 8: the moves they made in, the offseason even the nightmare
Speaker 8: That Was grant williams turning THAT.
Speaker 5: Into pj.
Speaker 8: Washington boom that's. A success so through, last year through,
Speaker 8: last Offseason Drafting, DEREK lively i mean that the, nightmare
Speaker 8: tanking missing, the playoffs But Getting derek lively out, of
Speaker 8: that it's a. Huge win then You Flip grant WILLIAMS For,
Speaker 8: pj washington You Get. Daniel gaffer everything's clicking now and
Speaker 8: Him and kyrie have a. Great relationship kyrie's. Under contract
Speaker 8: you Just Extended, jason kidd who is definitely a guy
Speaker 8: Who's in luca's corner and lucas in. His CORNER so
Speaker 8: i think right now everything. Is good it's always sort
Speaker 8: of a ticking, time BOMB but i would think for
Speaker 8: the next two seasons you should feel good about the
Speaker 8: Fact that luca has a happiness. Level here you're, proving
Speaker 8: it especially by getting back To The western, conference Finals
Speaker 8: and luca can even look in the mirror a little bit, and,
Speaker 8: say man how MUCH did i even? YOU know i
Speaker 8: was hurting my team in a lot of, these GAMES
Speaker 8: whether i was injured. OR not i didn't show up
Speaker 8: in a lot of. These moments so he can't just
Speaker 8: point the finger and say everybody around me is. A
Speaker 8: problem this is a, solid team and this is a,
Speaker 8: young team and it feels like there is a chemistry
Speaker 8: and a get along factor. That's IMPORTANT so i think
Speaker 8: right now they're feeling good About where.
Speaker 5: Luca's, at yeah.
Speaker 4: IT'S crazy i thought That that Kyrie Irving luka doncic
Speaker 4: pairing was going to be an absolute disaster with all
Speaker 4: that stuff you, talked about and it looks completely different
Speaker 4: now with the roster. They've Built er chiafala one of five.
Speaker 4: To three the Fan in Dallas vet NATION on betql.
Speaker 4: As well great to have you, ON man i appreciate.
Speaker 2: The time heks, eric.
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