WEBVTT - What the hell just happened to the Nuggets?

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of the Check one Round two series

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<v Speaker 1>is over.

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<v Speaker 2>One second Round series is around, and why said it

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<v Speaker 2>like that?

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<v Speaker 1>One is definitely going to a Game seven and the

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<v Speaker 1>other two we have absolutely no idea about.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's break them all down for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Give some thoughts about those series, as well as not one,

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<v Speaker 1>but two interviews with local experts Denver Zach Bye, who

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<v Speaker 1>is covering the Nuggets Timberwolve series, and Eric Chiafalo what

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<v Speaker 1>a name from Dallas covering the mazrath Is Thunder series.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I love this time, yere Anthony, I know that

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<v Speaker 2>you're listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they about to hire JJ Reddick in La, because,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that's gonna be content for days. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>drop right into it, drop that motherfucking beat that should

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<v Speaker 1>be reON.

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<v Speaker 2>We're almost the summer. I don't want it to end.

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<v Speaker 1>The Second Round series or almost over a lot of surprises,

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<v Speaker 1>though pretty exciting, what was not a shock was the

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<v Speaker 1>Boston made lightish work of the Cleveland Cavaliers. For one,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew that they were gonna lose one game they

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<v Speaker 1>always do, especially Game two went about as much as

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<v Speaker 1>you would expect, especially true because the Cavs went without

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan Mitchell for two games, which you knew that was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a big problem. And if now, if you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the chatter out there, it's like not really

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<v Speaker 1>good on the streets for Donnovan Mitchell. People are already saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan Mitchell thinks the rest of the Cavaliers are immature.

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<v Speaker 1>And then donnad Mitchell's gonna come out on Twitter and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they cappen. And then Donovan Mitchell in that last game

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<v Speaker 1>in Boston was wearing a brand new Cleveland Cavalier's hat

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<v Speaker 1>on that looked like somebody from the PR staff said hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to put this on.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of showing solidarity Donovan.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people are saying that he played his last game

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<v Speaker 1>as a Cavalier because he's probably not going to extend.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the other people come out and say donovand Mitchell

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<v Speaker 1>actually loves it in Cleveland, which said no one ever,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless the heater circling, the Lakers are circling, the Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>Nets are circling, Cleveland is getting circled.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a vulture in the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Garland, his camp has come out and said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not really fucking with playing with Donovan Mitchell, our

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<v Speaker 1>roles have been diminished, and it's kind of like Donovan

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell or US then it's like, okay, Cia Dia. Ever

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<v Speaker 1>since Darius Garland hurt his what is orbital boom face?

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<v Speaker 2>He got surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever since his face got fucked up, he has not

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<v Speaker 1>been the same. And when you go three for seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>from the field and the close out game without your

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<v Speaker 1>star player, it's on you, baby boy.

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<v Speaker 2>You do not look good.

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Garland is said to be unhappy with his role

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland, and we'll ask out if Donovan does stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, bye bye by.

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<v Speaker 1>The way, like rumor mill, can we just let the

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<v Speaker 1>body go cold a little bit before all these post mortems. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got these things ready to hit publish before the

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<v Speaker 1>games and the series are even over.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fucked up. I kind of love it though.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the Celtics, they look dominant. No team in

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<v Speaker 1>modern memory can win in five games multiple times and

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<v Speaker 1>yet still have a fan base that does not believe

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<v Speaker 1>in them and questions whether the team can win it

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<v Speaker 1>all myriad of issues, Tatum's lack of takeover the game,

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<v Speaker 1>Gene Drew Holliday disappears for games at a time. Christas

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<v Speaker 1>Porzingis is injury history pops up while simultaneously he is

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<v Speaker 1>injured and is not playing in playoff games. We have

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<v Speaker 1>strange coaching decisions, but Boston just keeps winning, so we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know what they are until they face a

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<v Speaker 1>true competitor. Sure, they haven't played anyone yet, but guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>They can only play the teams that are in front

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and they will get either an Indiana Pacers

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<v Speaker 1>team that cannot play any defense, or they will get

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<v Speaker 1>a very banged up next team. This could be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the least impressive runs to the finals we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>in a long time, probably since the Milwaukee Milwaukee Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Critics, of course will point out that Miami without Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>and Cleveland without Donovan are very different teams. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, they await either Indy or New York. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that series though. The Knicks, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>beat the shit out of India in Game five in

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<v Speaker 1>the Garden.

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<v Speaker 2>But did you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Got them to play loose? Got them to play competitively

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<v Speaker 1>and difficultly hardly?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that got them to play hard every single possession.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently it was a long.

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<v Speaker 1>Drawn out fart, a fart in the locker room pregame.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Katz was there. He chronicled it on Dan Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>No Dan Lebattart one of the dance and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it was Josh Hart probably so much Mike and Ikes

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<v Speaker 1>that caused all kinds of gastric distress.

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<v Speaker 2>The fart apparently was like a ten second long fart.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost looked like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoopee cushion, sounded like Wookie pushion had gone off. Thank God,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Knicks keep winning, and it's crazy. It's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>because they're so banged up that you feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>has to come down and the guillotine has to hit

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<v Speaker 1>him in the neck at some point. But Tibbs just

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<v Speaker 1>keeps coaching his ass off. They keep getting something out

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<v Speaker 1>of another player that you don't expect. All Tibbs does

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<v Speaker 1>is find a way to put poor little Andrew nemhard

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<v Speaker 1>back on to Brunson, and Brunson just puts up buckets

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<v Speaker 1>on him. It's like, oh, you know what, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have Deuce McBride start games now, and then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have guard to guard pick and roll you think you

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<v Speaker 1>can put in Andrew Nemart on Deuce McBride. Oh no, no, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>because Aaron Nesmith is getting switched up on and now

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<v Speaker 1>it's buckets for days. We almost had a fifty bucket

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<v Speaker 1>again for Jalen Brunson and he doesn't even have any

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<v Speaker 1>left on the shots. The other two series are very,

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<v Speaker 1>very exciting, but ogn and Obi is still out indefinitely.

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<v Speaker 1>So all I want is a Game seven at the

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<v Speaker 1>Garden on a Monday fingers crossed. But if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks fan, you say, no, no, I do not want that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's close this baby out. Let's talk about Okce, though,

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<v Speaker 1>where the MAVs now are up three two.

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<v Speaker 2>Very surprising.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the MAVs team would be an early exit

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<v Speaker 1>at best.

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<v Speaker 2>The PJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Washington trade excellent, the Daniel Gafford trade excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to close this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Out in Dallas because if they go back to Oka, see,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be rocking in there. But the issue

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<v Speaker 1>for the Thunder are many Nobody other than Shake can

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<v Speaker 1>get a bucket consistently. And everybody said this team was

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<v Speaker 1>too young, but it doesn't even look like that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like they're just not tall enough. They play

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<v Speaker 1>plenty mature, but they don't play big. They lack height,

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<v Speaker 1>they lack strength.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about it all year long.

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<v Speaker 1>They need a backup big. They need a backup big.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to backup. They wouldn't do it. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people think Donovan Klingon could be the answer. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people think it's Zach Edie. But six' Nine

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen williams ja y L I N i think That's

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<v Speaker 1>jay Will he's the second tallest guy on the roster

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<v Speaker 1>Besides Chet.

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<v Speaker 2>Holmgren Once poku got shipped.

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<v Speaker 1>Out the team has an average height of sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Six then you look At.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas they have nine players that are six seven or

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<v Speaker 1>taller and four over six.' ten so they are getting,

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<v Speaker 1>out muscled they are getting, out rebounded and they are

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<v Speaker 1>getting straight fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Bullied, tough okay so he could still win.

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<v Speaker 1>The series but does it even, matter really You, play

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<v Speaker 1>minnesota You, play denver you're getting fucked up in the

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<v Speaker 1>game because they're even Big, than dallas and they're even

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<v Speaker 1>more Skilled. Than dallas they're even more Athletic. Than dallas speaking, Of, Which, minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay okay minnesota we.

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<v Speaker 1>See, You okay denver gets their ass handed.

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<v Speaker 2>To them again on.

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<v Speaker 1>The road jamal couldn't get, it going, Mpj awful jokic looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Mortal again minnesota has, calmly back and everything seems like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was before the, crazy, thing though Was the denver looked

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<v Speaker 1>like they're about to fuck. Them up they went up nine,

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<v Speaker 1>to two then there was like an eleven zero run

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<v Speaker 1>which turned into a twenty nine to, four run and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of, a sudden it's night night sleep. Mask

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<v Speaker 1>one fifteen seventy was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Final, score?

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<v Speaker 1>Outrageous outrageous how do? You lose how do you lose

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<v Speaker 1>by forty five when they're the?

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<v Speaker 2>Defending champs could you have a? Little honor what a?

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<v Speaker 2>Weird series what a? Weird series six.

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<v Speaker 1>Games split evenly three to three and only one good game,

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<v Speaker 1>in There number. Game one the other five. Were blowouts

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what to Think about? GAME seven a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of People like denver why?

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't you but who the?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck knows we will preview the conference Finals, on monday,

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<v Speaker 1>of course but For now i'm hoping for three. Game sevens,

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<v Speaker 1>all right it is time to welcome our, First Guest,

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<v Speaker 1>zach bye Of the Drive on denver's one oh four POINT,

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<v Speaker 1>Three fm zach broke.

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<v Speaker 2>Down the Nuggets versus.

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<v Speaker 1>Wolve series he was joined by my other, Co Host

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<v Speaker 1>ryan Horbought And, nick cashew which airs on my other

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<v Speaker 1>SHOW at mgm tonight on the radio most, major markets

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<v Speaker 1>as well as live on video on twitch. AND YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>i don't know if you, knew that but you should

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<v Speaker 1>check it. Out live it's. Pretty fun zach is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my. Favorite guests he is. So passionate he did

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<v Speaker 1>it with cell. Phone too his hand was rattling all over,

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<v Speaker 1>the place the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Was shaking he was. So excited check. It out let's get.

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<v Speaker 2>Into It.

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<v Speaker 4>Zach bye is the host Of the drive one four

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<v Speaker 4>to three the Fan. In denver he jumps on. With,

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<v Speaker 4>us so is what is just kind of the mood

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<v Speaker 4>right now for you and i'd say people in general?

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<v Speaker 4>Right now does it feel Like the nuggets have gone Back,

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<v Speaker 4>to hey this Is the nuggets team we remember or

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<v Speaker 4>heading into? This game Is it minnesota and what they

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<v Speaker 4>did the first couple of games is still kind of

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<v Speaker 4>in the back of your mind a.

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<v Speaker 5>Little, bit, well guys thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 6>Back on it feels Like what minnesota did in games

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<v Speaker 6>One in game two was like a. Year ago, this

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<v Speaker 6>series it like self, contained series deserves like its. Own

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<v Speaker 6>documentary from the Way that game two, went down it was.

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<v Speaker 5>The fourth largest loss FOR.

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<v Speaker 6>An nba champion on their, home floor followed by the

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<v Speaker 6>second largest playoff win in the history of. The Franchise

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<v Speaker 6>rudy gobert missed a game because he had. A Baby

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<v Speaker 6>tim Connolly missed game five with. An Achilles jamal murray

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<v Speaker 6>didn't get suspended for throwing a heat pack and a

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<v Speaker 6>towel onto. The floor like it's been an absolute. Journey

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<v Speaker 6>Here but i'll tell, YOU this I Think nuggets nation,

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<v Speaker 6>in general and you can include me, in this have

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<v Speaker 6>returned to the supreme confidence that we had before the,

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<v Speaker 6>series started based on the championship Equity that denver built

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<v Speaker 6>up a year ago going sixteen and four on their

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<v Speaker 6>way to. A Title and i'll, tell, you guys, You

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<v Speaker 6>know minnesota, is fantastic, all right. THEY are i believe

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<v Speaker 6>this team is going to win a championship at some

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<v Speaker 6>Point In anthony edwards are, run here but they're just

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit ahead. Of Schedule, and Jokic who i've

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<v Speaker 6>been referring this season to as a basketball version of,

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<v Speaker 6>artificial intelligence because he downloads whatever you throw at him

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<v Speaker 6>and spits out the equation to. Solve it now ais

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<v Speaker 6>a little, bit new so it might Have taken jokic

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<v Speaker 6>a game or two to figure. It out but by

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<v Speaker 6>game three you could see he has Solved, the Timberwolves

0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.600
<v Speaker 6>And michael malone deserves a ton. Of credit they have

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<v Speaker 6>made incredible ADJUSTMENTS that i won't. Ida here i'm sure

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<v Speaker 6>you guys have seen them with your, own eyes but

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<v Speaker 6>From having Jokic And aaron gordon bring the ball up

0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.480
<v Speaker 6>the floor instead Of Having jamal, murray hounded to doing

0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.360
<v Speaker 6>inverted screens.

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<v Speaker 5>To get jokic's.

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<v Speaker 6>Post looks we just started seeing that They're Throwing aaron

0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.680
<v Speaker 6>gordon in early actions To Get rudy gobert moving in

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<v Speaker 6>early in possessions as opposed to just roaming around by.

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<v Speaker 6>The RIM so i think from coaching And, From jokics

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<v Speaker 6>denver has Figured The minnesota. Timberwolves out they're just a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit early to the biggest party on, the PLANET

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<v Speaker 6>and i Love the nuggets to finish.

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<v Speaker 1>This, series yeah it does look like that two to

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<v Speaker 1>o lead was just an eternity.

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<v Speaker 2>To go everybody was freaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Out myself I've been i've been like supremely confident In

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<v Speaker 1>the nuggets pretty much all.

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<v Speaker 2>Season LONG and i thought, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Myself if if they, tell us, you know if, this

0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Team If michael Malone And calvin moved tell us that

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<v Speaker 1>the role players are, good Enough that i'm gonna. Believe

0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.000
<v Speaker 1>him and then then what we saw in the first two, Games,

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<v Speaker 1>was oh maybe they Are Missing bruce brown. A lot

0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.679
<v Speaker 1>maybe they Are Missing uncle jeff. A lot how are

0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.199
<v Speaker 1>they using their role players Now the nuggets in different

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<v Speaker 1>ways that is allowing this team to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>More balanced it's a great, A, question trista because coming into,

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<v Speaker 6>THE series i thought that one of the bigger Advantages

0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.360
<v Speaker 6>that minnesota has was.

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<v Speaker 5>Their bench they had the sixth man of, the year

0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:28.000
<v Speaker 5>but it's not.

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<v Speaker 6>JUST him, i Mean It's kyle anderson coming off the

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<v Speaker 6>bench and a couple others that have been. Really impactful

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<v Speaker 6>and the ANALOGY that i tried to make before the

0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.480
<v Speaker 6>series is That the nuggets bench is more of a

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<v Speaker 6>shield just don't get killed in The non, jokics minutes

0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.280
<v Speaker 6>And the timberwolves bench was more of, a sword a

0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.839
<v Speaker 6>sword that can actually gas, you Well the nuggets bench

0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.240
<v Speaker 6>is now holding the shield and. The sword and We've

0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:56.120
<v Speaker 6>Seen christian brown multiple times in this series get to.

0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.560
<v Speaker 6>Double figures that's who he was last year during the

0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.000
<v Speaker 6>post where IN The nba finals he's scored fifteen points

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<v Speaker 6>as a rookie Most And sam cassel For the rockets

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<v Speaker 6>in the early to.

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<v Speaker 5>Mid nineties he's returned.

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<v Speaker 6>To that form after a bit of a regression type

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<v Speaker 6>of Year For christian brown in his. Second year but

0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.800
<v Speaker 6>it's also two other guys that have made a huge

0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.720
<v Speaker 6>impact in a. Reserve role And It's, reggie jackson thirty

0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.680
<v Speaker 6>three year old veteran coming off a, you know a

0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.320
<v Speaker 6>two for two game. From three and it's also a

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<v Speaker 6>guy that never gets talked about on any of the,

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<v Speaker 6>talk shows but it's it's Longtime Veteran justin holliday has

0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.440
<v Speaker 6>made ten threes in. This, series guys this is a

0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.960
<v Speaker 6>guy that did not play during the. REGULAR season i

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<v Speaker 6>just want to. Reemface it he didn't Play. For Denver

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<v Speaker 6>But michael malone in big moments trust, veteran players and

0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.440
<v Speaker 6>you're seeing a Guy Like peyton watson not checking into

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<v Speaker 6>games and the trust is more built over the last

0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:57.040
<v Speaker 6>ten Years With, justin holliday and that Decision For michael

0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.360
<v Speaker 6>malone to adjust within this series and start playing a

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<v Speaker 6>guy who had barely played during the regular season is

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<v Speaker 6>a massive feather in the Cap Of michael malone.

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<v Speaker 7>As, WELL zak i gotta, ask you how do you

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<v Speaker 7>Feel About Michael.

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<v Speaker 5>Porter?

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<v Speaker 7>Junior tonight his points prop is thirteen and. A half

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<v Speaker 7>he only had six on two to ten shooting the

0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.080
<v Speaker 7>other night, before that, four points not a whole lot

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<v Speaker 7>of volume low two. Of four you think this could

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<v Speaker 7>maybe be a game where he gets.

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<v Speaker 5>SOME looks i actually think it. COULD be, i like

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<v Speaker 5>where your.

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<v Speaker 6>Head's, at obviously, YOU know i don't believe in using

0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.840
<v Speaker 6>the word lock by, any means but. He's due, AND

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<v Speaker 6>also i Don't think minnesota's approach is going to be

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<v Speaker 6>to Single Cover nikola. Jokicic anymore after he literally in that,

0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:39.960
<v Speaker 6>game five he put away his scalpel and brought out

0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.840
<v Speaker 6>his axe and said this is going to, get ugly

0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.760
<v Speaker 6>and he absolutely murdered the defensive player of the year

0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.640
<v Speaker 6>and wore. His, skin okay they can't have that. Approach

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<v Speaker 6>again they cannot have that, approach again, All Right so

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<v Speaker 6>i'm saying that to say as it Relates To Michael.

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<v Speaker 6>PORTER jr i could see the Most aggressive doulve Going

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<v Speaker 6>toward jogics tonight and he always makes the right to

0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.680
<v Speaker 6>sist and that supercomputer brain, of HIS and i think

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<v Speaker 6>a beneficiary of that two passes away could be Like

0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.280
<v Speaker 6>A Michael porter junior wide.

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<v Speaker 5>Opening corners he's.

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<v Speaker 6>ABSOLUTELY due i could see him score between seventeen and twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Points tonight has anybody's reputation spiked and then like very

0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:28.480
<v Speaker 1>quickly dropped as much as the defensive Prowess Of Rudy

0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Gobert because game one and earlier on in the Series,

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<v Speaker 1>against phoenix we, were like, oh man this Is The

0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.000
<v Speaker 1>rudy gobert on the perimeter that we love. TO see

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<v Speaker 1>i Swear after, GAME five i think everybody's now just

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<v Speaker 1>Out On.

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<v Speaker 2>Rudy gobert it was like, you said wore.

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<v Speaker 1>His skin that's what made me think, of, It Like

0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.200
<v Speaker 1>rudy gobert might be his reputation might just.

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<v Speaker 6>Be COOKED and i understand why you're, saying it and,

0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.000
<v Speaker 6>it's FAIR but i will, say this that's what it

0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.680
<v Speaker 6>looks like when you're playing one of the ten greatest

0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.240
<v Speaker 6>PLAYERS in. Nba history mac dab in the middle of. Their,

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<v Speaker 6>PRIME like i don't think It's A rudy. GOBERT issue

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<v Speaker 6>i think he's deserving of The defensive player Of. The year,

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<v Speaker 6>but like, no matter like what defensive player in the

0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.200
<v Speaker 6>front court could you Single up jokis?

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<v Speaker 5>With now like he just he.

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<v Speaker 6>Murders people AND so i think it more has to

0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.800
<v Speaker 6>Do with jokics Because Traditionally go bear does about as

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<v Speaker 6>good of a job as you Can, against jokics especially in.

0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:31.080
<v Speaker 6>Single coverage so it's, just guys we, are WATCHING like

0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.600
<v Speaker 6>i want to put this on your radar now we.

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<v Speaker 6>Are watching this is not a guy who's just top

0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.399
<v Speaker 6>five in all time. Triple doubles this is not a

0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.919
<v Speaker 6>guy who's just won A, third mvp ninth PLAYER in

0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.679
<v Speaker 6>nba history to. Do it if they do over the

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<v Speaker 6>next MONTH what i think they're, gonna do and that's

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<v Speaker 6>win back to, Back championships jokics will be THE. Finals

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<v Speaker 6>mvp you know how many PLAYERS in nba history have

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<v Speaker 6>three regular season MVPs and two. Finals, MVPs ready here's.

0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.399
<v Speaker 6>The list in, my opinion it's the greatest basketball players

0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.040
<v Speaker 6>who have, ever played and you could put them in

0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.600
<v Speaker 6>any order that, You Want Kareem, Abdul Jabbar, Michael, Jordan,

0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:11.080
<v Speaker 6>Lebron James, Magic Johnson. Larry bird that's. The list you

0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.840
<v Speaker 6>will need a six finger here in about. A month

0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.640
<v Speaker 6>if things go down THE way i think it's gonna,

0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.639
<v Speaker 6>go down he will have a top ten argument. Without

0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:24.080
<v Speaker 6>question and THAT'S what i think that murder scene in

0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.080
<v Speaker 6>game five. Was about it Was about jokic and Not.

0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:28.760
<v Speaker 6>Necessarily gobert it's just.

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<v Speaker 4>So descriptive THAT'S what i love. ABOUT it, i mean

0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.919
<v Speaker 4>you're totally right Talking to Zach BY vet. Mgm tonight

0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.520
<v Speaker 4>we know How Important nakola jokic obviously is To, the

0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.679
<v Speaker 4>nuggets but we also have seen How Important jamal murray

0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.960
<v Speaker 4>is to their success. As well are we feeling better

0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Speaker 4>about his health a? LITTLE bit i understand, the numbers

0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.040
<v Speaker 4>listening to sixteen points last game seven or fourteen shooting

0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:51.760
<v Speaker 4>and least shooting fifty percent from, The, FIELD like, i

0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:53.360
<v Speaker 4>mean is it kind of at the? Point now are

0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.560
<v Speaker 4>he's starting to at least get closer to the guy

0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:56.480
<v Speaker 4>that we expect to see?

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<v Speaker 5>Out? THERE yeah i.

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<v Speaker 6>Think physically, you know we haven't even really talked too

0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 6>much about him physically in the last day or two because.

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<v Speaker 5>Of what we Saw in.

0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.679
<v Speaker 6>Game three, you Know after game two they had that

0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.000
<v Speaker 6>long layoff where they played On a monday and didn't

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:13.200
<v Speaker 6>play Again. Till friday that was Huge For jamal murray

0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.359
<v Speaker 6>and he's got his bounce back and he had his

0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.479
<v Speaker 6>best game of the Series in game three And in,

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<v Speaker 6>game five and the stats that you, just quoted we

0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.520
<v Speaker 6>saw a plus elite level Defense From anthony Edwards On.

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.040
<v Speaker 6>Jamal murray he poured all of his energy to try

0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.359
<v Speaker 6>to Slow down jamal and, guess what. It worked the

0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.840
<v Speaker 6>problem is the problem is Is that anthony did ant

0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.760
<v Speaker 6>man did not have enough in the tank offensively after

0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.320
<v Speaker 6>giving that all world. Performance defensively that's, why it's in my,

0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.720
<v Speaker 6>humble opinion we need to slow down a little bit

0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:49.479
<v Speaker 6>With The Kobe Bryant michael.

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<v Speaker 5>Jordan comparisons he may.

0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:56.320
<v Speaker 6>Get, there gay but What made Michael and kobe special

0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.840
<v Speaker 6>Specifically is michael Was Winning defensive Players the year in

0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.040
<v Speaker 6>the same year he was winning the. Scoring Title, kobe

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:08.280
<v Speaker 6>bryant at twenty one, years old was First TEAM all

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.840
<v Speaker 6>nba defense while being one of the leading scorers IN

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.880
<v Speaker 6>the nba and was taking over overtime Against the pacers

0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.320
<v Speaker 6>IN The nba Finals when shaquille O'Neal was sitting on

0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.880
<v Speaker 6>the bench with. Foul TROUBLE so i want TO see

0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:23.200
<v Speaker 6>i want to See ant man get to a point

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.359
<v Speaker 6>where he gets that version of himself Defensively Against jamal

0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.480
<v Speaker 6>murray and then is also willing to or not, willing

0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.000
<v Speaker 6>to but capable of holding up his end of the

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:35.200
<v Speaker 6>bargain at an elite. Level offensively and he was unable

0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.639
<v Speaker 6>to do That in. Game five but that's ULTIMATELY why

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.119
<v Speaker 6>i think We saw jamal not play as well is

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:44.119
<v Speaker 6>because he, was smothered smothered like a breakfast Burrito By.

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Anthony edwards zach was so passionate that his screen, Was

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.399
<v Speaker 1>moving it, Was shaken it.

0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Was shaken, SO no i. LOVED it i. Loved it

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:52.840
<v Speaker 2>was making.

0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Me laugh so given that that Matchup Between jamal murray

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.480
<v Speaker 1>And Aunt, anthony edwards and we know That the timberwolves

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>in a close, out game we're gonna need a lot

0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.800
<v Speaker 1>From ant, man offensively how do you think about both

0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.439
<v Speaker 1>of those? Two players? Point props where where does it break?

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.160
<v Speaker 1>For you does it break in terms Of ant man

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:15.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe slowing down defensively And Letting jamal murray go off

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and having a better. Game himself or is it something

0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:20.440
<v Speaker 1>like we saw maybe in last Game, in denver, you know.

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 6>And you're asking Me About anthony edwards point, Prop, SPECIFICALLY yeah.

0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's obviously a Correlation Between anthony edwards Defensively

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.160
<v Speaker 1>on Jamal and jamal's point Prop And anthony edwards having

0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:31.840
<v Speaker 1>gas in the tank.

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:31.920
<v Speaker 5>For.

0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Himself yeah you, know what, home man it's a, GOOD

0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:40.520
<v Speaker 3>question i would, say tonight based on what we saw

0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 3>in the, LAST game i think you see a way

0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 3>extra Emphasis On anthony edwards offensively and taking his foot

0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:49.920
<v Speaker 3>off the gas a, little bit a little.

0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.159
<v Speaker 6>Bit defensively, but also, you know you KNOW what i

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 6>just thought of when you when you're asking, That, question

0:21:55.240 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 6>trista is that the officiating Crew in game two that

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.560
<v Speaker 6>allowed the most physical game OF basketball i have seen

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 6>it in this modern era OF.

0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.640
<v Speaker 5>The nba that's who's on the, Game.

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 6>Tonight okay and my wonder Is will minnesota be able

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 6>to play its more prison ball brand of basketball that

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.680
<v Speaker 6>we Saw in? Game two and this just be a

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.639
<v Speaker 6>really low scoring game where if you can get to,

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:28.600
<v Speaker 6>ninety five you're gonna. Win IT so i would Say

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.359
<v Speaker 6>like i'm Looking at i'm looking At Ant man beam more,

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 6>aggressive Offensively but i'm also thinking he might be able

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:39.199
<v Speaker 6>to get away with more defensively With That mark jones

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 6>led crew that wants to see blood if they're gonna

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 6>put air in.

0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.080
<v Speaker 4>The, whistle big big night For The denver nuggets looking

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 4>to close Out. The Timberwolves zach bye Live from denver

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:49.360
<v Speaker 4>one oh four to Three.

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<v Speaker 5>The fan hey see you guys here and enjoy.

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 3>The, game.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay good Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>From zach's we got another guest, As Well eric Chiafalo

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.719
<v Speaker 1>of dallas one oh five Three. The fan he, Breaked

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 1>down he broke down the mass. For us also joined

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 1>MY bet mgm crew to talk a little bit ABOUT this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okac series a ton of cool Information ABOUT. Luca, pj

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:18.160
<v Speaker 1>washington the Advancement Of kyrie, irving's defense and a lot

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>more about How the MAVs than what they need to

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 1>do to.

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<v Speaker 2>Move on so let's Jump into.

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<v Speaker 8>But when it comes To the, lucas, situations man this

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 8>is he was so it was he was himself. Last

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 8>night it was wonderful and that's exactly What the mavericks

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 8>need if they want to go and have. Any success

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 8>in the next round versus The t wolves Or, the

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.440
<v Speaker 8>nuggets and certainly in. The finals you've got to get

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 8>the best Out. Of luca they've been getting by in

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 8>this series with him being a shell, of HIMSELF and

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 8>I was i was surprised to see the version of

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 8>him that we saw. LAST night, i mean generally in,

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.160
<v Speaker 8>the playoffs you know what you're getting Out. Of luca

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 8>he's an all timer when it comes to rising to.

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 8>The occasion he's been a superstar since he basically set

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 8>foot in, the league and he usually just gets better in.

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:04.239
<v Speaker 8>The postseason clearly injured this. Time around the physicality of

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 8>being in the doorger chamber and everything that they're throwing

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 8>Defensively at Luca, And kyrie i'm in, the physicality it's.

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 8>All There but luca just showing up. LAST night I

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.439
<v Speaker 8>mean i, was confused just turn, it on turn. It

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 8>off like a lot of people here locally look to

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.920
<v Speaker 8>it being more of a mental Thing with luca than a.

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 8>Physical thing if he doesn't get off to a, good

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.120
<v Speaker 8>start if he's, missing shots he wants, To, Know oh,

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 8>I'm injured i'm, banged Up but I'm not i'm not

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 8>a bad. Basketball player i'm not missing. These shots i'm.

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 8>Being fouled he's always arguing with, the rest but not.

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 8>Last night he cut back. On that he was just he,

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 8>was focused he. Was dialed he didn't look like he had,

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 8>a limp he had. More lift he made his. THREE ball,

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 8>i mean It was it, was CRAZY and, I guess

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 8>i guess we can expect that in the next game

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 8>because you get the two days, of rest and knowing

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 8>that you can get a couple of days off before

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.679
<v Speaker 8>you get Into The western, conference finals trying to close

0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 8>this thing out as quickly as possible as exactly what

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.679
<v Speaker 8>you want want, to do so hopefully the injury stubs.

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 8>Behind him but it. Was weird it was weird to

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 8>see how just how awful he looked and injured he

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 8>looked in the first, few games and then last night

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 8>it was it was a completely. Different player you Look.

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 1>At Luca And kyrie irving and you think, to, yourself

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 1>like obviously two, very potent creative. Shot creators and when

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.439
<v Speaker 1>the trade, went down there was a lot of people

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 1>who wondered whether these two players could. Actually coexist the

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Thing that i'm the most, Impressed about i'd love to

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>get your thoughts On this eric is just how they're stepping.

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Up defensively You've.

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Got luca averaging three point three deflections per game in

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the Playoffs and kyrie right behind him at two. Point

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 1>nine how are we getting this level of defense from

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>guys who really haven't been hanging their hat their whole careers.

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 5>On.

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<v Speaker 8>DEFENSE yeah i think it's a great observation and it's

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.439
<v Speaker 8>another sort of head scratcher Of How jason kidd can

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 8>get it out of. These guys he did it a

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:57.679
<v Speaker 8>couple of years ago When the mavericks went On Their

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 8>Western conference, finals run and that was a bad, defensive

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 8>team and then all of the sudden second half of

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 8>the season into the postseason they got things figured out

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 8>and then it went away. From them they've been bad

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 8>at defense last season and for a good chunk up

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 8>until the, trade deadline when you make the TRADE. For,

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 8>pj washington you make the Trade For. Daniel gafford now

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 8>you have more of a rim protective presence There, in

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 8>gafford and then of COURSE. With pj washington and the,

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 8>versatility defensively, the athleticism all that. Was huge AND then

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 8>i think when you have when you, have superstars and

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 8>we see this IN. The, nba now the qualities of a,

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 8>head coach how high on the priority list is it

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.360
<v Speaker 8>when it comes to being able to manage your superstar

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 8>personalities and get the best out. Of them and you're

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 8>seeing it for sure when it Comes To jason Kidd

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 8>and Luca And jason Kidd and kyrie and the relationships

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 8>that he has with both of. Those guys they respect

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 8>them and when he calls, him out they generally rise to.

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 8>The occasion and this is definitely the most professional and

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 8>mature Version of KYRIE that i think we've, Seen ever

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 8>and a lot of that probably has to do with

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 8>some of the installation of being being kind of buddy

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 8>buddy with the, Head Coach, jason kidd but also having

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 8>the respect, for him and then same actually in the

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 8>top of the front office with General Manager nico harrison

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 8>and the relationship that. They have it Seems like kyrie.

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 8>Is happy he understands his role on. This team he

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 8>Knows that luca is supposed to be, The man so

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 8>How can kyrie go about affecting the game without being

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 8>the number? One option and he's done, a really really

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 8>nice job. Of that we're actually kind of wanting to

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 8>see that his scoring go up a little bit more

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 8>in this, particular series but his fingerprints are all over.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 8>The game and when when when you get the when

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 8>you get the buy in from, your superstars everybody else

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 8>has to buy in. As, well defensively and so you

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 8>can see so much, of defense especially if you're if

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 8>you have A, high Iq which Kyrie and, luca do

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 8>and if you have some semblance, Of athleticism, my gosh

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 8>if you just give great, effort defensively you can you can.

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.880
<v Speaker 8>Get by and so they they're finally. Doing that they've

0:27:57.880 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 8>picked their spots, at times but at this point the,

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 8>post season they're doing it a heck of a lot.

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 8>More so it's super impressive The Way jason kidd now

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 8>not once but twice in the season has flipped the

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 8>defense on its rear end basically and got it to

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 8>where it's NOT only, i mean it's not a weakness,

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 8>it is it's a strength. For them they play really

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 8>really good defense.

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, Now yeah kyrie impacting winning in ways that we've never.

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Seen before YOU. Mentioned.

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>PJ washington i just wanted to follow up on that

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>not a great game, last GAME and i think probably

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>if it was me just in terms of, my observations

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that coming from, foul trouble early foul

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>trouble going to. The bench, for, you like how MUCH.

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Has pj washington been impacting this team on both ends of,

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the floor and then in this, next game what should

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>we expect for him more of what we've seen early

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>on in the series or what we.

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 8>Just, saw yeah it's a great question. As well he's

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 8>he's a guy that has been hugely impactful since since

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 8>the day they traded, for him especially on the. Defensive side,

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 8>now offensively you've seen him start to start to get

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 8>to those places where you know he's. Capable of he

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 8>showed It. In charlotte he's. A, guy hey you're not

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 8>super surprised he dropped twenty five, points tonight but his

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 8>three ball and especially his corner three was just god

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 8>awful the entire season With the mavericks, at least and

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 8>then once you get him into the postseason here and into,

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 8>the series all of, a sudden he's knocking down the

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 8>shots and he's kind of been the. Veteran presence this

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 8>is a guy who also talks about wanting to Be,

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 8>in DALLAS and i think there's a comfort level that

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 8>he has and he's sort of he's rising the same

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 8>way you're seeing some other. Guys do but he's been

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 8>huge for. This series, without him you. Don't win you

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 8>Don't win games two. And three he was putting the

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 8>scoring onus, on Himself where kyrie is getting all sorts

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 8>of blitzes and double teams sitting, his way they're forcing

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 8>the ball out of, His hands luca not being himself.

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 8>At all somebody had to, step UP. And pj, washington

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 8>said let me be. That guy and it's. Been huge

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 8>it's been. Absolutely huge but you can't rely, on that

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 8>and so ultimately you were going to get a night

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 8>like last night where, still, impacting winning still making, you

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 8>know great, play defensively and big time stuff on the

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 8>offensive side when it comes to late in the game

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 8>and big possessions that he was able to capitalize on

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 8>following up on a misshot going for the dunk that

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 8>was huge late in. The game so he's another guy

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 8>that understands his role and is capable of erupting a little.

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 8>Bit offensively i'm not going to bank on him doing

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 8>that again like he Did in games two, and three

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 8>where he's scoring twenty. Plus points but in terms of

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 8>the impact, on, winning yeah he's a guy That the

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 8>mavericks have really.

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 7>Really appreciated, Right now minnesota is up thirty one to

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 7>fourteen after the. FIRST quarter i guess the two surprise

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 7>teams In the west this year would Be ok See,

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 7>in Minnesota and minnesota has more vets on. The team

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 7>But okay see's. Really young but do you almost, feel like,

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 7>you know with home court advantage that game six is

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 7>almost like a must Win the MAVs are three and

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 7>a half, point favorites or do you feel like home

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 7>court advantage doesn't. REALLY matter i Guess what i'm asking

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 7>is If okay see gets the, job done you get a,

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 7>game seven how nervous are you going? To be because

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 7>they're a, young team you know they're probably gonna be

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 7>a little nervous to close that. Thing OUT but i

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 7>almost feel Like the MAVs have to get This job

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 7>i've done. At home do you feel the same way?

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 8>Or no? Not, REALLY well, i mean you definitely don't

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 8>want to give a. Team life, you what you want

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 8>to end this thing as quickly as you can and

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 8>going BACK into okac where it's lowed one game sample anything,

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 8>can happen you want to. AVOID that i would still

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 8>be confident That the masks can get. It done they've

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 8>proven they can Go Into oklahoma city and. Get victories

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 8>they've been a pretty dang good road team as a matter,

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 8>of fact top five all. Season LONG so i don't

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 8>think it overly. Affects them and they've got they're they're

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 8>a little bit more. Battle tested as you MENTIONED, with

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 8>okac you're seeing the signs of them the youth and

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 8>and just what we understand about the history of the

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 8>sport where you have to earn your stripes and get

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 8>the skins in the wall in, the postseason and you're

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 8>going to have to take some l's before you really

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 8>graduate to, championship status and THAT'S what i think we're

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 8>seeing in real TIME. WITH okc i fully Expect the

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 8>mavericks to come out and put It On. OKA see

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 8>i will Take the mavericks. Money line i'll Take the mavericks.

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 8>To cover I'll expect luca to be a similar version

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 8>of what we saw in last night's game here in.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 8>GAME six i think this is a take care of

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 8>business For. THE mavericks i don't think they're going to

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 8>dog around and get themselves Back in, okay see but

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 8>even if, THEY do I still i'd. Be nervous i'll

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 8>Tell you i've had four quarters. Of NERVES but i

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 8>would still Think the mavericks are a team capable of

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 8>going in to a road environment and getting.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 4>The depth Talking, to eric you AND follow. Betmgm tonight,

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 4>You know dallas obviously going To The western conference finals

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 4>would be great for, the organization Probably make luca a little.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 4>More happy there's the possibility they lose. This series there's

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 4>always the conversation about a star IN the nba and

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 4>then their future in a, certain market and there have,

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 4>been whispers certainly outside About maybe luca and what his

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 4>future would Be. In dallas there does it kind of

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 4>feel like maybe this team they've put together is something

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 4>that he might be a little bit, Happier with like

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 4>what is the Conversation around luca and his? Future there,

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 4>you know.

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 8>It's funny because, you're right and anytime with a, young

0:32:55.560 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 8>superstar there's always those conversations, of hinting even projecting two

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 8>and three years about what a player might want, to

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 8>do and especially with the way last, season ended Where

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:07.959
<v Speaker 8>the MAVs are tanking at the end of the season

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<v Speaker 8>obviously to garner the best possible take necessary after having

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<v Speaker 8>Traded For. KYRIE irving, i mean last year was a

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<v Speaker 8>total total failure and in. Every sense so that was

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<v Speaker 8>that was a topic this time last year that we were,

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<v Speaker 8>certainly like this is kind of a maker to break,

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<v Speaker 8>a year you or to some extent because you never

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<v Speaker 8>know when he starts kicking around the idea, OF hey

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<v Speaker 8>i want to go somewhere ELSE because i want. To

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<v Speaker 8>win but now You've Seen nico harrison and company with

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<v Speaker 8>the moves they made in, the offseason even the nightmare

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<v Speaker 8>That Was grant williams turning THAT.

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<v Speaker 5>Into pj.

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<v Speaker 8>Washington boom that's. A success so through, last year through,

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<v Speaker 8>last Offseason Drafting, DEREK lively i mean that the, nightmare

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<v Speaker 8>tanking missing, the playoffs But Getting derek lively out, of

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<v Speaker 8>that it's a. Huge win then You Flip grant WILLIAMS For,

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<v Speaker 8>pj washington You Get. Daniel gaffer everything's clicking now and

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<v Speaker 8>Him and kyrie have a. Great relationship kyrie's. Under contract

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<v Speaker 8>you Just Extended, jason kidd who is definitely a guy

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<v Speaker 8>Who's in luca's corner and lucas in. His CORNER so

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<v Speaker 8>i think right now everything. Is good it's always sort

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<v Speaker 8>of a ticking, time BOMB but i would think for

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<v Speaker 8>the next two seasons you should feel good about the

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<v Speaker 8>Fact that luca has a happiness. Level here you're, proving

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<v Speaker 8>it especially by getting back To The western, conference Finals

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<v Speaker 8>and luca can even look in the mirror a little bit, and,

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<v Speaker 8>say man how MUCH did i even? YOU know i

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<v Speaker 8>was hurting my team in a lot of, these GAMES

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<v Speaker 8>whether i was injured. OR not i didn't show up

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<v Speaker 8>in a lot of. These moments so he can't just

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<v Speaker 8>point the finger and say everybody around me is. A

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<v Speaker 8>problem this is a, solid team and this is a,

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<v Speaker 8>young team and it feels like there is a chemistry

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<v Speaker 8>and a get along factor. That's IMPORTANT so i think

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<v Speaker 8>right now they're feeling good About where.

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<v Speaker 5>Luca's, at yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>IT'S crazy i thought That that Kyrie Irving luka doncic

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<v Speaker 4>pairing was going to be an absolute disaster with all

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<v Speaker 4>that stuff you, talked about and it looks completely different

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<v Speaker 4>now with the roster. They've Built er chiafala one of five.

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<v Speaker 4>To three the Fan in Dallas vet NATION on betql.

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<v Speaker 4>As well great to have you, ON man i appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>The time heks, eric.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh thank you so much to. My guest that's all

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