Speaker 1: Orange County Season twelve, episode three is Anything But Quiet One,
Speaker 1: Shannon Badore and Kelly Dodd cause a scene at the
Speaker 1: Quiet Woman, creating one of the most iconic OC episodes
Speaker 1: to date. Legendary actress, singer, author, businesswoman, and health spokesperson
Speaker 1: Suzanne Summers joins me to recap the loudest Housewives dinner
Speaker 1: of them all. This is Real Housewives of Orange County
Speaker 1: Season twelve, episode three, The Not So Quiet Woman. Let's
Speaker 1: get into it. Okay, So are you a Housewife watcher?
Speaker 2: I'm not not. These are the first time I'm doing
Speaker 2: this for you.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's funny I'm doing this for
Speaker 1: us too, because I had never seen this episode. And
Speaker 1: what's funny too, is that I don't watch the show. Really,
Speaker 1: I was on the show, but I don't watch the show.
Speaker 1: But I wonder if there are many things you've been
Speaker 1: in that you wouldn't necessarily watch.
Speaker 2: Well, I did, and I didn't realize I was doing it.
Speaker 2: You know, Yolanda had right and she had lime disease.
Speaker 2: That's how we met. I meet people over diseases, right,
Speaker 2: And so Yolanda, a little tricky says, I want you
Speaker 2: to come over and just talk about line. And when
Speaker 2: I sat there on the couch, I realized, Oh, we're
Speaker 2: doing a show.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, you were on the Housewives talking about Lime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever show she was doing.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay.
Speaker 1: So then I sometimes like when someone really is just
Speaker 1: seeing this fresh because it's a really unique perspective. But
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this show somewhat fresh. I know more obviously
Speaker 1: than you do. But when I watched them, I really
Speaker 1: a lot of things come to mind, all right, Because
Speaker 1: there was one part about a double mistectomy I thought
Speaker 1: you would find interesting, and so there are nuggets.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of garbage to.
Speaker 1: Pick through in these shows, but there are sometimes some
Speaker 1: you know, things, some vehicles for good conversation.
Speaker 3: Absolutely so all right, So.
Speaker 1: I thought, and I'm coming. We're coming in seasons later
Speaker 1: after these people start. But this woman's Shannon who I
Speaker 1: know who she is, Shannon Badore. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I've ever met her. She's with this other woman, Lydia,
Speaker 1: at a party. And it seems insane to be having
Speaker 1: this kind of argument, taking something so seriously and pulling
Speaker 1: off on a stretch limousine mid broad light broad days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, God, she needed to chill, right, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: not that big a deal.
Speaker 1: I thought so too. And but what's funny is that
Speaker 1: how many times have you been married?
Speaker 2: Twice? Okay?
Speaker 1: So we later find out, not in this episode, but
Speaker 1: in this show that he's cheating on her and a
Speaker 1: younger girl and there's a loveless marriage, and like all
Speaker 1: of the yarn ball starts to un untie and I
Speaker 1: think about very challenging times in my life over here,
Speaker 1: and when you're very like intense over here.
Speaker 3: So I react, you over react, and you're.
Speaker 1: On a reality show and people are drinking and everything,
Speaker 1: and the stakes are heightened also with cameras. So I'm
Speaker 1: thinking that her weight and everything is like probably culminating
Speaker 1: at this time in her life. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: she is very happy at all.
Speaker 2: Is she the one who's gained forty pounds?
Speaker 3: She sounded like forty to fifty pounds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's shit, And forty of those pounds on her
Speaker 2: on her weight is fat. I thought it was forty percent. Oh,
Speaker 2: I think you're right. That's really not quite awake yet.
Speaker 1: That's presumably why my producers chose you to talk about
Speaker 1: this though, because of the health aspect, like that's that
Speaker 1: sounded serious to you.
Speaker 2: Right when I watched, I thought, she's another victim of chemicalization.
Speaker 2: We're under the greatest environmental assault in the history of humanity,
Speaker 2: and people don't realize that. You know, the GI tract
Speaker 2: is the length of a tennis court, and around that
Speaker 2: barrier on the GI track is mucus, and that mucus
Speaker 2: is your immune system. When you eat a non organic
Speaker 2: food and fast food and things like that, that bad
Speaker 2: element comes into the body in through the GI tract
Speaker 2: and it eats through that barrier wall, causing leaky gut.
Speaker 2: It eats little holes, and the leaky gut is a
Speaker 2: major concern. So you know, I do these three Facebook
Speaker 2: live shows a week at Sudan Summers dot com, and
Speaker 2: everybody was complaining about their guts and their guts and
Speaker 2: their guts. And as I watched this woman on the Housewives,
Speaker 2: I thought, you've got gout issues, is what you've really got.
Speaker 1: And I thought that that scene with the chiropractor guy,
Speaker 1: I didn't really think he was too tough on her.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if people would think he was too tough.
Speaker 1: He kept saying was like wow, and then he said wow,
Speaker 1: and I feel like people that really love you, that
Speaker 1: are around you are not going to say like you
Speaker 1: need to lose weight or you're unhealthy or something. But
Speaker 1: I thought that he kind of was still supportive in
Speaker 1: the way that he said it to her. You did
Speaker 1: you agree.
Speaker 2: He was he was and what he was really asking,
Speaker 2: or you know when you look like this is are
Speaker 2: you having sex with your husband?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And I thought, probably not. She probably is embarrassed to
Speaker 2: take her clothes off. That's a that's a big weight gain.
Speaker 2: But once again, nobody is noticing that. It's the environment
Speaker 2: and the chemicals.
Speaker 1: And he's working out like a like a midlife crisis.
Speaker 1: And then you hear later that he's having an affair,
Speaker 1: and all these pieces are adding up in a woman's
Speaker 1: life and during menopause, and it's just she seems like
Speaker 1: she's having some sort of a break, like a disproportionate
Speaker 1: reaction to things, like she's at this party and she's
Speaker 1: melting down and she's never gonna speak to the person again,
Speaker 1: and then she just can't keep it together.
Speaker 2: It feels like.
Speaker 1: But that I gave her a lot of credit for
Speaker 1: talking to the audience about weigh one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: two pounds like that must have been coreaged. She certainly
Speaker 1: just hadn't been on a scale in years. I thought
Speaker 1: that was pretty courageous. And she's lost a ton of weight,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's devastating to gain that kind of weight.
Speaker 2: I've never gained that kind of weight. But I did
Speaker 2: have stomach issues about ten years ago, and I was
Speaker 2: looking at myself in a publicity fiction. I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: it doesn't look good. But it's about what you're eating. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it's not about fattening food. It's about eating chemicals
Speaker 2: in quantity. I say sometimes I say to people, what
Speaker 2: did you eat today? And they don't know. I go, well,
Speaker 2: and then let's go through it, and it's it's chemicals.
Speaker 2: It's fast food and chemicals. So it's just Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other girl was peggy and she's new. I had
Speaker 1: never seen her before in my life, and she had
Speaker 1: a double mastectomy, which is like, that's like when Angelina
Speaker 1: and Jolie did it. Proactively. You just you know that
Speaker 1: you're prone to that. That's a move, that's a courageous move,
Speaker 1: and when one's like a humbling move.
Speaker 2: But you know, I wrote a book about cancer called
Speaker 2: knockout doctors here and cancer without drugs. And one of
Speaker 2: the doctors I interviewed on cologist, she said, I have
Speaker 2: so many women coming in who've had mastectomies to remove
Speaker 2: the evidence. And she said, and then they're back again.
Speaker 2: It comes back. She said, just removing it isn't the answer.
Speaker 2: The answer is find the cause what caused this?
Speaker 1: Right Lydia is the girl who was the long hair
Speaker 1: who was having the argument in the beginning, and she's
Speaker 1: working with her husband. Do you work with your husband?
Speaker 1: So she's working with her husband in a magazine.
Speaker 3: I think it was nobleman.
Speaker 1: I looked at her, I saw that it didn't seem
Speaker 1: like it was around anymore.
Speaker 2: But do you work with your husband?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like you're together a lot.
Speaker 2: We run our business together, so you work together every
Speaker 2: day every day. We're never a part and that's always worked.
Speaker 2: We get along so great. I love our marriage and
Speaker 2: he loves our marriage.
Speaker 1: And I hear his dishes in the background right now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does that. That's amazing that you like you really
Speaker 1: like you're together because I'm on in a relationship. We're
Speaker 1: together all the time and this and it struck me
Speaker 1: when I saw Lydia were oh well, I saw her
Speaker 1: working with her husband. But she said something about her
Speaker 1: father who was successful and I guess her grandfather or uncle,
Speaker 1: and she kind of masculated her husband.
Speaker 2: Did you hear that when.
Speaker 1: She said, I wish he could be more like my
Speaker 1: father or it was either my uncle or grandfather, because
Speaker 1: her husband obviously doesn't work the way that she wants
Speaker 1: him to.
Speaker 3: I thought it was great.
Speaker 2: I don't think I heard that, but there's something that's
Speaker 2: ringing a bell.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They were sitting and then you saw like a cutaway
Speaker 1: and she said my father. I guess she comes from
Speaker 1: a wealthy family or successful father and another male figure
Speaker 1: in the family. And she was basically saying, which her
Speaker 1: husband's obviously going to see that she wishes her husband
Speaker 1: had more of what her father had, Like he's not tough.
Speaker 2: Relationship ruin her.
Speaker 3: That's like emasculation. One oh one, right, No, you.
Speaker 2: Don't, you don't compare. No, you love and if you love,
Speaker 2: you love, but you don't care. Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1: And I think about the relationships on these shows a
Speaker 1: lot because in the beginning, the girl that we're saying
Speaker 1: is having challenge with her husband. When that Limo came,
Speaker 1: he was like, what's sweety what happened sweetye? He seemed
Speaker 1: like he was being nice to her, And I haven't
Speaker 1: seen a lot, but I've seen him on that show
Speaker 1: before being nice to her, and I feel like things
Speaker 1: devolve just like the way you know, think relationships devolve
Speaker 1: like wear and tear erosion in relationships. You can't really
Speaker 1: take it for granted. Because I watched her with him
Speaker 1: and he seems sweet. I'm not saying he's a good guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, but I just mean
Speaker 1: the relationship seems to get really changed.
Speaker 2: I think a good relationship is about giving each other
Speaker 2: a lot of attention and not criticizing. And I just
Speaker 2: I think my relationship with Alan is as close to
Speaker 2: perfect as it can get. That's amazing. It is amazing.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: I met him when I was a girl and I
Speaker 2: think eighteen, and I loved him the moment I met him.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. And you've been together since. Yeah, we've been
Speaker 2: together fifty five years. That's unbelievable. Well, it's unbelievable when
Speaker 2: you consider I've been married twice, but I got pregnant
Speaker 2: at eighteen and that didn't work out so well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah at that time. You remember, if you got pregnant,
Speaker 2: you and they said you had to get married. So
Speaker 2: I walked around with that shame thing. Yea, I had
Speaker 2: to get married. Of course, if I'd stayed with him,
Speaker 2: I'd be in jail. Yeah, but it was a long
Speaker 2: time ago.
Speaker 3: I get that.
Speaker 1: It's a totally different world. Yeah, And on these shows,
Speaker 1: sometimes people go on these shows so they to save
Speaker 1: their marriage. I've seen that where they're having problems. It
Speaker 1: seems like an adventure or it's something that the man
Speaker 1: kind of Kelsey Grammar and Kimille, you know, gives to
Speaker 1: her as like the Swan song, like there are these
Speaker 1: these things going on where you see at the end
Speaker 1: of her relationship. Sometimes they go on these shows. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying always, but a lot of these.
Speaker 2: Really is that true that Kelsey Grammar and his wife
Speaker 2: broke up on one of these shows.
Speaker 1: It's true that at the end of his at the
Speaker 1: end of their relationship, like when she was a new housewife,
Speaker 1: he was on he looked like he was eating nails.
Speaker 1: He was on for I think one episode, and he
Speaker 1: looked like it was torture and he and he had
Speaker 1: to be on camera, so he probably agreed. He probably
Speaker 1: did it out of guilt or something, letting her quote
Speaker 1: unquote letting her be on the show, and you know,
Speaker 1: agreeing to do it himself. And she's on the other
Speaker 1: camera talking about how she walked into her building in
Speaker 1: New York City and they didn't know who she was
Speaker 1: because they thought she was a woman he was having
Speaker 1: the affair with. So she's talking about his affair on
Speaker 1: the show, and we and everyone knows it was just
Speaker 1: like he was dragged into it because of her being
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, his actions are his own actions.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, wow, he's faultless, but it was. It's
Speaker 1: a disaster. But a lot of times, there were all
Speaker 1: these shows. You see these people and they end up
Speaker 1: breaking up. The woman who has the new baby, who's
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, the baseball player.
Speaker 3: That we'll get into.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they're broken up.
Speaker 1: He seems like he can't stand her, like it's literally
Speaker 1: why he's on the show. And it looks like he
Speaker 1: it seems.
Speaker 2: Like he hates her. It wasn't idea, was it. I
Speaker 2: Mean I'm watching going how do you get close enough
Speaker 2: to make that baby right, it's cold.
Speaker 1: He's a baseball player, just so you know, she's You know,
Speaker 1: this is one of those things when you sign up
Speaker 1: in a relationship for something and it was right there,
Speaker 1: but you think somehow it's going to change, Like she
Speaker 1: married a professional baseball player, and it seems like they
Speaker 1: resent the shit out of each other.
Speaker 2: Now they probably do. You know, I believe that the
Speaker 2: first thought you have about things is the real is
Speaker 2: the real answer for you? And they I think your
Speaker 2: your observances are astute.
Speaker 1: They want to drink it pretty yeah, you know, like
Speaker 1: drink it pretty great.
Speaker 2: That's a great saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: They go to this dinner. Now, the girl that is
Speaker 1: Armenian who had the doblemistectomy, she was probably only on
Speaker 1: this one season. I've never seen her since. And I
Speaker 1: want to explain to you a dynamic that I recognize
Speaker 1: because it's very It's this bait that people take when
Speaker 1: they're new on these shows. They want to come on
Speaker 1: and show everybody how much better they are than them, like, oh,
Speaker 1: like you you were invited to the party, but then
Speaker 1: you're gonna act like what you don't know why you're there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Or doing getting a project
Speaker 1: and like you have, like you're better than bigger, nobody's
Speaker 1: bigger than the game. So she comes on and she
Speaker 1: thinks she's gonna be oh and two people don't talk
Speaker 1: to each other and communicate that she came on to
Speaker 1: be better than and was like shutting everything down. And
Speaker 1: I said, that's the kiss of death, Like that's the
Speaker 1: sign someone's getting fired as a housewife.
Speaker 2: I think that moment where I I was feeling such
Speaker 2: compassion for her with her double mass up to me,
Speaker 2: and then she said, nobody sees what I see, but
Speaker 2: they just see the jewelry and the hair and the
Speaker 2: face and the clothes. And I'm thinking that's kind of
Speaker 2: not a way to pull in friends.
Speaker 1: There are some people on here that really think they're
Speaker 1: bigger than the show. So she's at the dinner and
Speaker 1: Shannon just trying to connect to her and talk about
Speaker 1: her husband who and we say he said, he said, oh,
Speaker 1: it was Shannon was saying to that girl, Peggy that
Speaker 1: I got very stressed out because it was in the
Speaker 1: media that my husband beat me. Okay, I can understand, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I can understand her having a rough patch if people
Speaker 1: thought her husband physically abused her. Now that may be
Speaker 1: true or may not. Either way, that's not someone else.
Speaker 2: Said that, didn't she.
Speaker 1: She said to the girl Peggy, I had a rough
Speaker 1: year and I've gained, you know, forty pounds or whatever
Speaker 1: much she gained. And she didn't say my mayor just
Speaker 1: falling apart, because that probably wasn't in her mind completely yet.
Speaker 1: But she did say people were saying that my husband
Speaker 1: beats me. And the girl Peggy was like, oh, don't
Speaker 1: we do that every Friday night at my house?
Speaker 2: Will cares?
Speaker 4: Don't let it bother you. Yeah, littling her experience. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but she did say after I was just in my country.
Speaker 4: That's how we choke. But I didn't think it was funny.
Speaker 1: But she had a better then I'll say she had
Speaker 1: a better than vibe. So they go to dinner, of course.
Speaker 1: The restaurant's called The Quiet Woman, of course. And just
Speaker 1: to give you a little background, so Shannon is the
Speaker 1: wacky one we've been discussing. Two other girls are new
Speaker 1: and it doesn't I hate to say, really matter.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 1: They don't go on that long, so they're not characters
Speaker 1: are going to invest in. But the thin blonde who's
Speaker 1: like the friend who has the guinea pig. She's she's tammer.
Speaker 1: She's kind of an iconic housewife, you know, she's like
Speaker 1: good at her job as a housewife, and she's always
Speaker 1: sort of in between all all the dramatic pieces. And
Speaker 1: then the other girl who's in the bathroom with the
Speaker 1: collar over the sweater and the boobs. She's kind of
Speaker 1: a villain Kelly Dodd. But my opinion in this show
Speaker 1: is you need quote unquote characters like that, people like that,
Speaker 1: because that represents the world. Like if they start showing
Speaker 1: these synthetic groups that everybody's saying what you want politically,
Speaker 1: it's not real.
Speaker 2: Well, when I was watching it, I couldn't help but
Speaker 2: think of Larry David and Curb your Enthusiasm because because
Speaker 2: his humor is absurd, that people act absurd, right, And
Speaker 2: as I was watching it, I thought, the way you're
Speaker 2: acting right now is absurd. And have you ever seen
Speaker 2: Curb your Enthusiasm?
Speaker 3: I met every single episode?
Speaker 2: Yeah me, Well you know how it.
Speaker 1: Is, you're right, like you can't believe stusiasts and it's
Speaker 1: like you fucking more and you're right, and like that's
Speaker 1: what would happen on the show. That's such a just
Speaker 1: stute genius thing to say, because you can't believe you
Speaker 1: just saw that happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a great character. It's amazing. Calls her husband
Speaker 2: a fat fuck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're fat fuck. Oh yeah, I love her. I
Speaker 3: love her.
Speaker 2: Even are the best characters on television.
Speaker 3: She's great.
Speaker 1: So that's in a stute observation, and I agree, it's outland.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying. But that's why I like, you know,
Speaker 1: I always say, and it's not it's not my original material.
Speaker 1: I don't know who I got it from. But when
Speaker 1: you love to love a character, it's great. When you
Speaker 1: love to hate a character, when it's great, great. When
Speaker 1: you hate to hate a character, you're kind of hating yourself.
Speaker 1: It's like getting dirty and like, not great, you love
Speaker 1: to hate him.
Speaker 2: I watched that show and it's wonderful and it's awful,
Speaker 2: and it's wonderful and it's awful, and I go back
Speaker 2: and forth. And we started watching it because there's so
Speaker 2: much violence and war and you know, lousy stuff on television,
Speaker 2: and we thought that's a terrible thing to go to
Speaker 2: bed with. You can't sleep when you're all in turmoil.
Speaker 2: So we started watching Curb Your Enthusiasm a year ago,
Speaker 2: and I can't wait to get in bed and watch it.
Speaker 1: It's so wait, don't tell me you haven't watched the
Speaker 1: entire season of Shit's Creek.
Speaker 2: I have, I have. Oh, I love it.
Speaker 1: My daughter and I love it. It's like I feel funny, stupid.
Speaker 2: And also it's a whole different thing. It's succession. I love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: They're doing some good things on television. But my favorite,
Speaker 2: my favorite right now is Larry David and my goal
Speaker 2: is to see all one hundred and ten episodes. Well
Speaker 2: that will happen.
Speaker 1: Well, So this is as absurd as that. And I
Speaker 1: bring this up because the character Kelly is horrible, but
Speaker 1: for some reason, when I see her, I just am entertained,
Speaker 1: Like I want to not be entertained, because she can
Speaker 1: be horrible. And she's like putting her face against the
Speaker 1: window as they're leaving, like it's absolutely terrible. But I
Speaker 1: find the woman Peggy looking down upon everybody else in.
Speaker 3: That overall experience more terrible.
Speaker 1: Like I kind of find that this woman Kelly is
Speaker 1: just it's her id like whatever she thinks, she's just
Speaker 1: saying and that's a real person. I may not like her,
Speaker 1: but that's what I find interesting because they take people
Speaker 1: off these shows and try to make them very political correct,
Speaker 1: and when they put the really politically correct groups together
Speaker 1: who would not associate with each other, it seems preachy,
Speaker 1: and it just seems awkward for the audience, Like you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a couple of crazy people. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: a couple of pieces of shit in the mix, Like
Speaker 1: you're gonna have that's what that's a reality show, that's people.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting description.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Larry David, you love you don't even hate him.
Speaker 1: It's like he just is a disaster.
Speaker 2: We were at a restaurant one night and Jogio Baldi, Yes,
Speaker 2: and Larry David and his wife and I think a
Speaker 2: daughter walks in and they he's one of the He
Speaker 2: kind of scares me. I go up to everybody, but
Speaker 2: you never know if he's gonna say hey or yeah,
Speaker 2: And so I didn't say hello to him. And he
Speaker 2: sits right across from us, and they sit down and
Speaker 2: they don't talk, and then they order their dinner and
Speaker 2: then he pulls out a pack of cards and they
Speaker 2: start playing cards and they receive their dinner. They don't
Speaker 2: talk through the whole dinner, and when the dinner's over,
Speaker 2: he pays the bill and they get up and leave.
Speaker 2: They never talked, never, never. That's so funny. And then
Speaker 2: I thought, that's who he is, right, yeah, And.
Speaker 1: You gotta understand your person. You gotta understand your person, okay,
Speaker 1: So Kelly says, this is where you lose me. When
Speaker 1: Kelly goes a little below the belt, like making a
Speaker 1: comment about the weight, like this woman has just come
Speaker 1: clean about the fact that she weighs one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy two pounds. And the one thing I don't like
Speaker 1: is when anyone grabs the low hanging fruit for an insult,
Speaker 1: like you don't go you gotta fight fair.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course.
Speaker 3: Oh, she says, keep.
Speaker 1: Eating, and then Shannon feels shame because that wasn't her plate.
Speaker 3: So she feels this shame and she says, keep eating.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And who was your favorite character?
Speaker 2: I didn't really want to hang with any of them.
Speaker 1: That's fair, okay, all right, Well, if you don't want
Speaker 1: to hang out with any of them, there was So
Speaker 1: what was the rose and what was the thorn of
Speaker 1: the episode for me? The Rose was feeling hope that
Speaker 1: she was going to get on a journey with that guy.
Speaker 1: In some way, like I felt like there you had
Speaker 1: turned a corner. You're not gonna get on a scale
Speaker 1: and scale on television and see a number for yourself
Speaker 1: and you see your husband doing those monkey bars and
Speaker 1: all that a little like Rocky like, let's get the
Speaker 1: hold and fifth and let's get to the to the
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia and run those steps.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a similar reaction. Okay, so that and
Speaker 2: what was your thorn? I think the one who felt
Speaker 2: better than.
Speaker 3: Peggy was your thorn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you said what her issues were I
Speaker 2: before the show, I instantly was compassionate, but her demeanor
Speaker 2: took away that element.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: And then you feel guilty because you see that somebody's
Speaker 1: been through something and they've made themselves not likable, and
Speaker 1: that's happened before on the show. And I thought I
Speaker 1: did the Kelly comment of like keep eating. It's just
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have you're gonna throw an insult, it
Speaker 1: better be an intelligent, non character assassination or physical you know.
Speaker 2: It's a bitchy female.
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't, but you don't like it's that you
Speaker 1: don't say your ugly, your fat, your clothes, you're poor,
Speaker 1: like that's disgusting. You could come up with something that
Speaker 1: would convey your point, you know, that could be even
Speaker 1: so much more powerful. You could say, the amount of
Speaker 1: insecurity that you are projecting right now is so incredibly distracted,
Speaker 1: Like you could say something intelligent that you know, I.
Speaker 2: Think, I think what a lot of people don't understand.
Speaker 2: And if you understand this simple thing, it's much easier
Speaker 2: to survive. And that is handles, the handle being I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry that you're gaining weight. Perhaps you could try
Speaker 2: this or that or whatever whatever. I haven't had time
Speaker 2: to think about it, but I never offend anybody that
Speaker 2: I'm aware of, and that's because I always preface it
Speaker 2: with a way that they can wiggle out of it.
Speaker 1: But this person wanted to hurt the other person. So
Speaker 1: she went from yeah, I mean, you could be at
Speaker 1: somebody and give a bitchy comment, but it should not
Speaker 1: be something that's going to attack their physicality or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 5: That's just taking that's blow the belt. It's totally shitty exactly.
Speaker 5: And then I can't help but two things struck me
Speaker 5: as incredibly rich Tamra, who's gotten naked wasted on the
Speaker 5: show quote unquote, and not judging any of these people,
Speaker 5: I've been on reality television too, but to say, I'm
Speaker 5: just thinking about what Jesus would do, I'm fairly sure
Speaker 5: that Jesus would not be on the Housewives like that was.
Speaker 5: And and then juxtaposing that with the other girl praying
Speaker 5: about Jesus in the bathroom in Jesus's name and give
Speaker 5: this girl. But like we had two very I mean
Speaker 5: we were in we were in the Quiet Woman with
Speaker 5: Tamra and Kelly Dodd and Shannon and this girl praying
Speaker 5: in the bathroom Jesus doing like a toilet bowl prayer
Speaker 5: in the bathroom to Jesus. And then Tamra's like, I
Speaker 5: just think about what Jesus would do. I'm like, oh Jesus,
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cringey.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus on the Housewives, Like yeah, let's let's
Speaker 1: let's think about.
Speaker 2: What Jesus would do on the Housewives.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was definitely reach Well, it was great
Speaker 1: to talk to you about something totally ridiculous, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate crime.
Speaker 2: But I watched it and was intrigued.
Speaker 1: Well, it was great talking to you. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: doing so much. Tell your husband, I said, hello.
Speaker 2: Oh what you want to see him? He n you two?
Speaker 2: What were you just making pancakes?
Speaker 4: You were?
Speaker 2: It's late, it's eleven forty two. Wow. I respect that. Well.
Speaker 2: We had to watch Real Housewives this morning. You have homework? Yeah,
Speaker 2: me too.
Speaker 3: I woke up watch this.
Speaker 2: That's what I said to you. I said, like, I
Speaker 2: have homework.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you all those women scaly. Hell.
Speaker 1: You did well. Suzann wouldn't have been a good housewife,
Speaker 1: which is very positive.
Speaker 2: Right, she's my housewife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, She's actually a good housewife.