1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Orange County Season twelve, episode three is Anything But Quiet One, 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Shannon Badore and Kelly Dodd cause a scene at the 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Quiet Woman, creating one of the most iconic OC episodes 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: to date. Legendary actress, singer, author, businesswoman, and health spokesperson 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Suzanne Summers joins me to recap the loudest Housewives dinner 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: of them all. This is Real Housewives of Orange County 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Season twelve, episode three, The Not So Quiet Woman. Let's 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: get into it. Okay, So are you a Housewife watcher? 9 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: I'm not not. These are the first time I'm doing 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: this for you. 11 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: I love you. 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, it's funny I'm doing this for 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: us too, because I had never seen this episode. And 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: what's funny too, is that I don't watch the show. Really, 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: I was on the show, but I don't watch the show. 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: But I wonder if there are many things you've been 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: in that you wouldn't necessarily watch. 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: Well, I did, and I didn't realize I was doing it. 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: You know, Yolanda had right and she had lime disease. 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: That's how we met. I meet people over diseases, right, 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: And so Yolanda, a little tricky says, I want you 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: to come over and just talk about line. And when 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: I sat there on the couch, I realized, Oh, we're 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: doing a show. 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: Oh oh, you were on the Housewives talking about Lime. 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever show she was doing. 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: Right, Okay. 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: So then I sometimes like when someone really is just 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: seeing this fresh because it's a really unique perspective. But 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this show somewhat fresh. I know more obviously 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: than you do. But when I watched them, I really 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: a lot of things come to mind, all right, Because 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: there was one part about a double mistectomy I thought 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: you would find interesting, and so there are nuggets. 35 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: There's a lot of garbage to. 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: Pick through in these shows, but there are sometimes some 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, things, some vehicles for good conversation. 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely so all right, So. 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: I thought, and I'm coming. We're coming in seasons later 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: after these people start. But this woman's Shannon who I 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: know who she is, Shannon Badore. I don't know if 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: I've ever met her. She's with this other woman, Lydia, 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: at a party. And it seems insane to be having 44 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: this kind of argument, taking something so seriously and pulling 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: off on a stretch limousine mid broad light broad days. 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, God, she needed to chill, right, Yeah, okay, 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: not that big a deal. 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: I thought so too. And but what's funny is that 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: how many times have you been married? 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Twice? Okay? 51 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: So we later find out, not in this episode, but 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: in this show that he's cheating on her and a 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: younger girl and there's a loveless marriage, and like all 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: of the yarn ball starts to un untie and I 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: think about very challenging times in my life over here, 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: and when you're very like intense over here. 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: So I react, you over react, and you're. 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: On a reality show and people are drinking and everything, 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: and the stakes are heightened also with cameras. So I'm 60 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: thinking that her weight and everything is like probably culminating 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: at this time in her life. It doesn't seem like 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: she is very happy at all. 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: Is she the one who's gained forty pounds? 64 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: She sounded like forty to fifty pounds. 65 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's shit, And forty of those pounds on her 66 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: on her weight is fat. I thought it was forty percent. Oh, 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: I think you're right. That's really not quite awake yet. 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: That's presumably why my producers chose you to talk about 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: this though, because of the health aspect, like that's that 70 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: sounded serious to you. 71 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: Right when I watched, I thought, she's another victim of chemicalization. 72 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: We're under the greatest environmental assault in the history of humanity, 73 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: and people don't realize that. You know, the GI tract 74 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: is the length of a tennis court, and around that 75 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: barrier on the GI track is mucus, and that mucus 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: is your immune system. When you eat a non organic 77 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: food and fast food and things like that, that bad 78 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: element comes into the body in through the GI tract 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: and it eats through that barrier wall, causing leaky gut. 80 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: It eats little holes, and the leaky gut is a 81 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: major concern. So you know, I do these three Facebook 82 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: live shows a week at Sudan Summers dot com, and 83 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: everybody was complaining about their guts and their guts and 84 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: their guts. And as I watched this woman on the Housewives, 85 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: I thought, you've got gout issues, is what you've really got. 86 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: And I thought that that scene with the chiropractor guy, 87 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: I didn't really think he was too tough on her. 88 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: I was wondering if people would think he was too tough. 89 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: He kept saying was like wow, and then he said wow, 90 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: and I feel like people that really love you, that 91 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: are around you are not going to say like you 92 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: need to lose weight or you're unhealthy or something. But 93 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: I thought that he kind of was still supportive in 94 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: the way that he said it to her. You did 95 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: you agree. 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: He was he was and what he was really asking, 97 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: or you know when you look like this is are 98 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: you having sex with your husband? 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: Right? 100 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: And I thought, probably not. She probably is embarrassed to 101 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: take her clothes off. That's a that's a big weight gain. 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: But once again, nobody is noticing that. It's the environment 103 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: and the chemicals. 104 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: And he's working out like a like a midlife crisis. 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: And then you hear later that he's having an affair, 106 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: and all these pieces are adding up in a woman's 107 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: life and during menopause, and it's just she seems like 108 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: she's having some sort of a break, like a disproportionate 109 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: reaction to things, like she's at this party and she's 110 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: melting down and she's never gonna speak to the person again, 111 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: and then she just can't keep it together. 112 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: It feels like. 113 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: But that I gave her a lot of credit for 114 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: talking to the audience about weigh one hundred and seventy 115 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: two pounds like that must have been coreaged. She certainly 116 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: just hadn't been on a scale in years. I thought 117 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: that was pretty courageous. And she's lost a ton of weight, 118 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah. 119 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's devastating to gain that kind of weight. 120 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: I've never gained that kind of weight. But I did 121 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: have stomach issues about ten years ago, and I was 122 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: looking at myself in a publicity fiction. I thought, oh, 123 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: it doesn't look good. But it's about what you're eating. Yeah, 124 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: And it's not about fattening food. It's about eating chemicals 125 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: in quantity. I say sometimes I say to people, what 126 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: did you eat today? And they don't know. I go, well, 127 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: and then let's go through it, and it's it's chemicals. 128 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: It's fast food and chemicals. So it's just Yeah. 129 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: The other girl was peggy and she's new. I had 130 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: never seen her before in my life, and she had 131 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: a double mastectomy, which is like, that's like when Angelina 132 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: and Jolie did it. Proactively. You just you know that 133 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: you're prone to that. That's a move, that's a courageous move, 134 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: and when one's like a humbling move. 135 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: But you know, I wrote a book about cancer called 136 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: knockout doctors here and cancer without drugs. And one of 137 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: the doctors I interviewed on cologist, she said, I have 138 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: so many women coming in who've had mastectomies to remove 139 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: the evidence. And she said, and then they're back again. 140 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: It comes back. She said, just removing it isn't the answer. 141 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: The answer is find the cause what caused this? 142 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: Right Lydia is the girl who was the long hair 143 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: who was having the argument in the beginning, and she's 144 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: working with her husband. Do you work with your husband? 145 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: So she's working with her husband in a magazine. 146 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: I think it was nobleman. 147 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: I looked at her, I saw that it didn't seem 148 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: like it was around anymore. 149 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: But do you work with your husband? 150 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: Because I feel like you're together a lot. 151 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: We run our business together, so you work together every 152 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: day every day. We're never a part and that's always worked. 153 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: We get along so great. I love our marriage and 154 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: he loves our marriage. 155 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: And I hear his dishes in the background right now, Yeah, 156 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: he does that. That's amazing that you like you really 157 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: like you're together because I'm on in a relationship. We're 158 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: together all the time and this and it struck me 159 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: when I saw Lydia were oh well, I saw her 160 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: working with her husband. But she said something about her 161 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: father who was successful and I guess her grandfather or uncle, 162 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: and she kind of masculated her husband. 163 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: Did you hear that when. 164 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: She said, I wish he could be more like my 165 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: father or it was either my uncle or grandfather, because 166 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: her husband obviously doesn't work the way that she wants 167 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: him to. 168 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: I thought it was great. 169 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: I don't think I heard that, but there's something that's 170 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: ringing a bell. 171 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 172 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: They were sitting and then you saw like a cutaway 173 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: and she said my father. I guess she comes from 174 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: a wealthy family or successful father and another male figure 175 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: in the family. And she was basically saying, which her 176 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: husband's obviously going to see that she wishes her husband 177 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: had more of what her father had, Like he's not tough. 178 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: Relationship ruin her. 179 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: That's like emasculation. One oh one, right, No, you. 180 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: Don't, you don't compare. No, you love and if you love, 181 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 2: you love, but you don't care. Yeah, no, no. 182 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: And I think about the relationships on these shows a 183 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: lot because in the beginning, the girl that we're saying 184 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: is having challenge with her husband. When that Limo came, 185 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: he was like, what's sweety what happened sweetye? He seemed 186 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: like he was being nice to her, And I haven't 187 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: seen a lot, but I've seen him on that show 188 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: before being nice to her, and I feel like things 189 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: devolve just like the way you know, think relationships devolve 190 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: like wear and tear erosion in relationships. You can't really 191 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: take it for granted. Because I watched her with him 192 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: and he seems sweet. I'm not saying he's a good guy. 193 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, but I just mean 194 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: the relationship seems to get really changed. 195 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: I think a good relationship is about giving each other 196 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: a lot of attention and not criticizing. And I just 197 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: I think my relationship with Alan is as close to 198 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: perfect as it can get. That's amazing. It is amazing. 199 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 200 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: I met him when I was a girl and I 201 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: think eighteen, and I loved him the moment I met him. 202 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: That's amazing. And you've been together since. Yeah, we've been 203 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: together fifty five years. That's unbelievable. Well, it's unbelievable when 204 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: you consider I've been married twice, but I got pregnant 205 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: at eighteen and that didn't work out so well. Yeah, 206 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: yeah at that time. You remember, if you got pregnant, 207 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: you and they said you had to get married. So 208 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: I walked around with that shame thing. Yea, I had 209 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: to get married. Of course, if I'd stayed with him, 210 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: I'd be in jail. Yeah, but it was a long 211 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: time ago. 212 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: I get that. 213 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: It's a totally different world. Yeah, And on these shows, 214 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: sometimes people go on these shows so they to save 215 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: their marriage. I've seen that where they're having problems. It 216 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: seems like an adventure or it's something that the man 217 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: kind of Kelsey Grammar and Kimille, you know, gives to 218 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: her as like the Swan song, like there are these 219 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: these things going on where you see at the end 220 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: of her relationship. Sometimes they go on these shows. I'm 221 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: not saying always, but a lot of these. 222 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: Really is that true that Kelsey Grammar and his wife 223 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 2: broke up on one of these shows. 224 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: It's true that at the end of his at the 225 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: end of their relationship, like when she was a new housewife, 226 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: he was on he looked like he was eating nails. 227 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: He was on for I think one episode, and he 228 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: looked like it was torture and he and he had 229 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: to be on camera, so he probably agreed. He probably 230 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: did it out of guilt or something, letting her quote 231 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: unquote letting her be on the show, and you know, 232 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: agreeing to do it himself. And she's on the other 233 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: camera talking about how she walked into her building in 234 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: New York City and they didn't know who she was 235 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: because they thought she was a woman he was having 236 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: the affair with. So she's talking about his affair on 237 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: the show, and we and everyone knows it was just 238 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: like he was dragged into it because of her being 239 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: on it. I mean, his actions are his own actions. 240 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, wow, he's faultless, but it was. It's 241 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: a disaster. But a lot of times, there were all 242 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: these shows. You see these people and they end up 243 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: breaking up. The woman who has the new baby, who's 244 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: in the kitchen, the baseball player. 245 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: That we'll get into. 246 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they're broken up. 247 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: He seems like he can't stand her, like it's literally 248 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: why he's on the show. And it looks like he 249 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: it seems. 250 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: Like he hates her. It wasn't idea, was it. I 251 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: Mean I'm watching going how do you get close enough 252 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: to make that baby right, it's cold. 253 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: He's a baseball player, just so you know, she's You know, 254 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: this is one of those things when you sign up 255 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: in a relationship for something and it was right there, 256 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: but you think somehow it's going to change, Like she 257 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: married a professional baseball player, and it seems like they 258 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: resent the shit out of each other. 259 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: Now they probably do. You know, I believe that the 260 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: first thought you have about things is the real is 261 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: the real answer for you? And they I think your 262 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: your observances are astute. 263 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: They want to drink it pretty yeah, you know, like 264 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: drink it pretty great. 265 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: That's a great saying. 266 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so. 267 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: They go to this dinner. Now, the girl that is 268 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: Armenian who had the doblemistectomy, she was probably only on 269 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: this one season. I've never seen her since. And I 270 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: want to explain to you a dynamic that I recognize 271 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: because it's very It's this bait that people take when 272 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: they're new on these shows. They want to come on 273 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: and show everybody how much better they are than them, like, oh, 274 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: like you you were invited to the party, but then 275 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna act like what you don't know why you're there, 276 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Or doing getting a project 277 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: and like you have, like you're better than bigger, nobody's 278 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: bigger than the game. So she comes on and she 279 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: thinks she's gonna be oh and two people don't talk 280 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: to each other and communicate that she came on to 281 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: be better than and was like shutting everything down. And 282 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: I said, that's the kiss of death, Like that's the 283 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: sign someone's getting fired as a housewife. 284 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: I think that moment where I I was feeling such 285 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: compassion for her with her double mass up to me, 286 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: and then she said, nobody sees what I see, but 287 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: they just see the jewelry and the hair and the 288 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: face and the clothes. And I'm thinking that's kind of 289 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: not a way to pull in friends. 290 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: There are some people on here that really think they're 291 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: bigger than the show. So she's at the dinner and 292 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: Shannon just trying to connect to her and talk about 293 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: her husband who and we say he said, he said, oh, 294 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: it was Shannon was saying to that girl, Peggy that 295 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: I got very stressed out because it was in the 296 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: media that my husband beat me. Okay, I can understand, yeah, okay, 297 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: I can understand her having a rough patch if people 298 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: thought her husband physically abused her. Now that may be 299 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: true or may not. Either way, that's not someone else. 300 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: Said that, didn't she. 301 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: She said to the girl Peggy, I had a rough 302 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: year and I've gained, you know, forty pounds or whatever 303 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: much she gained. And she didn't say my mayor just 304 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: falling apart, because that probably wasn't in her mind completely yet. 305 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: But she did say people were saying that my husband 306 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: beats me. And the girl Peggy was like, oh, don't 307 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: we do that every Friday night at my house? 308 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: Will cares? 309 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: Don't let it bother you. Yeah, littling her experience. Yeah, 310 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: but she did say after I was just in my country. 311 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: That's how we choke. But I didn't think it was funny. 312 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: But she had a better then I'll say she had 313 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: a better than vibe. So they go to dinner, of course. 314 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: The restaurant's called The Quiet Woman, of course. And just 315 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: to give you a little background, so Shannon is the 316 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: wacky one we've been discussing. Two other girls are new 317 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: and it doesn't I hate to say, really matter. 318 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: They don't. 319 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: They don't go on that long, so they're not characters 320 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: are going to invest in. But the thin blonde who's 321 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: like the friend who has the guinea pig. She's she's tammer. 322 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: She's kind of an iconic housewife, you know, she's like 323 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: good at her job as a housewife, and she's always 324 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: sort of in between all all the dramatic pieces. And 325 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: then the other girl who's in the bathroom with the 326 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: collar over the sweater and the boobs. She's kind of 327 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: a villain Kelly Dodd. But my opinion in this show 328 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: is you need quote unquote characters like that, people like that, 329 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: because that represents the world. Like if they start showing 330 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: these synthetic groups that everybody's saying what you want politically, 331 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: it's not real. 332 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 2: Well, when I was watching it, I couldn't help but 333 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: think of Larry David and Curb your Enthusiasm because because 334 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: his humor is absurd, that people act absurd, right, And 335 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: as I was watching it, I thought, the way you're 336 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: acting right now is absurd. And have you ever seen 337 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: Curb your Enthusiasm? 338 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: I met every single episode? 339 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah me, Well you know how it. 340 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Is, you're right, like you can't believe stusiasts and it's 341 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: like you fucking more and you're right, and like that's 342 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: what would happen on the show. That's such a just 343 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: stute genius thing to say, because you can't believe you 344 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: just saw that happen. 345 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a great character. It's amazing. Calls her husband 346 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: a fat fuck. 347 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're fat fuck. Oh yeah, I love her. I 348 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: love her. 349 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 2: Even are the best characters on television. 350 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 3: She's great. 351 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: So that's in a stute observation, and I agree, it's outland. 352 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying. But that's why I like, you know, 353 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: I always say, and it's not it's not my original material. 354 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: I don't know who I got it from. But when 355 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: you love to love a character, it's great. When you 356 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: love to hate a character, when it's great, great. When 357 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: you hate to hate a character, you're kind of hating yourself. 358 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: It's like getting dirty and like, not great, you love 359 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: to hate him. 360 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: I watched that show and it's wonderful and it's awful, 361 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: and it's wonderful and it's awful, and I go back 362 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: and forth. And we started watching it because there's so 363 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: much violence and war and you know, lousy stuff on television, 364 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: and we thought that's a terrible thing to go to 365 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: bed with. You can't sleep when you're all in turmoil. 366 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: So we started watching Curb Your Enthusiasm a year ago, 367 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: and I can't wait to get in bed and watch it. 368 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: It's so wait, don't tell me you haven't watched the 369 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: entire season of Shit's Creek. 370 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: I have, I have. Oh, I love it. 371 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: My daughter and I love it. It's like I feel funny, stupid. 372 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 2: And also it's a whole different thing. It's succession. I love. 373 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 374 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: They're doing some good things on television. But my favorite, 375 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: my favorite right now is Larry David and my goal 376 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: is to see all one hundred and ten episodes. Well 377 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: that will happen. 378 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: Well, So this is as absurd as that. And I 379 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: bring this up because the character Kelly is horrible, but 380 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: for some reason, when I see her, I just am entertained, 381 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: Like I want to not be entertained, because she can 382 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: be horrible. And she's like putting her face against the 383 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: window as they're leaving, like it's absolutely terrible. But I 384 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: find the woman Peggy looking down upon everybody else in. 385 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 3: That overall experience more terrible. 386 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: Like I kind of find that this woman Kelly is 387 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: just it's her id like whatever she thinks, she's just 388 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: saying and that's a real person. I may not like her, 389 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: but that's what I find interesting because they take people 390 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: off these shows and try to make them very political correct, 391 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: and when they put the really politically correct groups together 392 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: who would not associate with each other, it seems preachy, 393 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: and it just seems awkward for the audience, Like you're 394 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: gonna have a couple of crazy people. You're gonna have 395 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: a couple of pieces of shit in the mix, Like 396 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have that's what that's a reality show, that's people. 397 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: That's an interesting description. 398 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Larry David, you love you don't even hate him. 399 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: It's like he just is a disaster. 400 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: We were at a restaurant one night and Jogio Baldi, Yes, 401 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: and Larry David and his wife and I think a 402 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: daughter walks in and they he's one of the He 403 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: kind of scares me. I go up to everybody, but 404 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: you never know if he's gonna say hey or yeah, 405 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: And so I didn't say hello to him. And he 406 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: sits right across from us, and they sit down and 407 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: they don't talk, and then they order their dinner and 408 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: then he pulls out a pack of cards and they 409 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: start playing cards and they receive their dinner. They don't 410 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: talk through the whole dinner, and when the dinner's over, 411 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: he pays the bill and they get up and leave. 412 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: They never talked, never, never. That's so funny. And then 413 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: I thought, that's who he is, right, yeah, And. 414 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: You gotta understand your person. You gotta understand your person, okay, 415 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: So Kelly says, this is where you lose me. When 416 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: Kelly goes a little below the belt, like making a 417 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: comment about the weight, like this woman has just come 418 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: clean about the fact that she weighs one hundred and 419 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: seventy two pounds. And the one thing I don't like 420 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: is when anyone grabs the low hanging fruit for an insult, 421 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: like you don't go you gotta fight fair. 422 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: Of course, of course. 423 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: Oh, she says, keep. 424 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: Eating, and then Shannon feels shame because that wasn't her plate. 425 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 3: So she feels this shame and she says, keep eating. 426 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And who was your favorite character? 427 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: I didn't really want to hang with any of them. 428 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: That's fair, okay, all right, Well, if you don't want 429 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: to hang out with any of them, there was So 430 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: what was the rose and what was the thorn of 431 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: the episode for me? The Rose was feeling hope that 432 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: she was going to get on a journey with that guy. 433 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: In some way, like I felt like there you had 434 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: turned a corner. You're not gonna get on a scale 435 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: and scale on television and see a number for yourself 436 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: and you see your husband doing those monkey bars and 437 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: all that a little like Rocky like, let's get the 438 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: hold and fifth and let's get to the to the 439 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia and run those steps. 440 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a similar reaction. Okay, so that and 441 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: what was your thorn? I think the one who felt 442 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: better than. 443 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: Peggy was your thorn. 444 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you said what her issues were I 445 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: before the show, I instantly was compassionate, but her demeanor 446 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: took away that element. 447 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: I know. 448 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: And then you feel guilty because you see that somebody's 449 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: been through something and they've made themselves not likable, and 450 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: that's happened before on the show. And I thought I 451 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: did the Kelly comment of like keep eating. It's just 452 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: so you're gonna have you're gonna throw an insult, it 453 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: better be an intelligent, non character assassination or physical you know. 454 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 2: It's a bitchy female. 455 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah you don't, but you don't like it's that you 456 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: don't say your ugly, your fat, your clothes, you're poor, 457 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: like that's disgusting. You could come up with something that 458 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: would convey your point, you know, that could be even 459 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: so much more powerful. You could say, the amount of 460 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: insecurity that you are projecting right now is so incredibly distracted, 461 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: Like you could say something intelligent that you know, I. 462 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: Think, I think what a lot of people don't understand. 463 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: And if you understand this simple thing, it's much easier 464 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: to survive. And that is handles, the handle being I'm 465 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: so sorry that you're gaining weight. Perhaps you could try 466 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: this or that or whatever whatever. I haven't had time 467 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: to think about it, but I never offend anybody that 468 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: I'm aware of, and that's because I always preface it 469 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: with a way that they can wiggle out of it. 470 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: But this person wanted to hurt the other person. So 471 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: she went from yeah, I mean, you could be at 472 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: somebody and give a bitchy comment, but it should not 473 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: be something that's going to attack their physicality or something 474 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: like that. 475 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 5: That's just taking that's blow the belt. It's totally shitty exactly. 476 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 5: And then I can't help but two things struck me 477 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: as incredibly rich Tamra, who's gotten naked wasted on the 478 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 5: show quote unquote, and not judging any of these people, 479 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 5: I've been on reality television too, but to say, I'm 480 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 5: just thinking about what Jesus would do, I'm fairly sure 481 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 5: that Jesus would not be on the Housewives like that was. 482 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 5: And and then juxtaposing that with the other girl praying 483 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 5: about Jesus in the bathroom in Jesus's name and give 484 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 5: this girl. But like we had two very I mean 485 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 5: we were in we were in the Quiet Woman with 486 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 5: Tamra and Kelly Dodd and Shannon and this girl praying 487 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 5: in the bathroom Jesus doing like a toilet bowl prayer 488 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 5: in the bathroom to Jesus. And then Tamra's like, I 489 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 5: just think about what Jesus would do. I'm like, oh Jesus, 490 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 5: I mean. 491 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cringey. 492 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus on the Housewives, Like yeah, let's let's 493 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: let's think about. 494 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: What Jesus would do on the Housewives. 495 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was definitely reach Well, it was great 496 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: to talk to you about something totally ridiculous, and I 497 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: appreciate crime. 498 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 2: But I watched it and was intrigued. 499 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: Well, it was great talking to you. I appreciate you 500 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: doing so much. Tell your husband, I said, hello. 501 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: Oh what you want to see him? He n you two? 502 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: What were you just making pancakes? 503 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 4: You were? 504 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: It's late, it's eleven forty two. Wow. I respect that. Well. 505 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: We had to watch Real Housewives this morning. You have homework? Yeah, 506 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: me too. 507 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: I woke up watch this. 508 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: That's what I said to you. I said, like, I 509 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 2: have homework. 510 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 511 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell you all those women scaly. Hell. 512 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: You did well. Suzann wouldn't have been a good housewife, 513 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: which is very positive. 514 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: Right, she's my housewife. 515 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, She's actually a good housewife.