1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Tonight at six on seven to ten wor 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: now the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: Welcome everybody. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of Clay and Buck is going right now. 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: Got a racked and stacked show, a lot of news, 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: a lot of analysis, a lot of things going on 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: to address with all of you. Clay on vacation in Australia, 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: will be back in two days two days, so he'll 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: have stories of koalas and kangaroos and saltwater crocodiles and 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: maybe he even will come back with a faint Australian accent. 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: You never know. 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: But he'll be back with us on Friday, as the 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: plan right now, assuming flights and everything go as scheduled. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: So let's get into what we have today, my friends. 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: Happy thirty four trillion dollar debt day, everybody. The US 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: government officially hit thirty four trillion dollars in debt. I 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: feel like that's kind of a big deal. I feel 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: like it's kind of a big number. I mean, thirty 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: four trillion. Next thing, you know, we're going to be 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: at forty. When do we all start to agree that 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: this is a problem. We shall discuss a bit more 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: on that later twelve days until Iowa. 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: I have some Iowa thoughts for all of you. 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: Mayor adams of New York City saying that they're not 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: allowed to turn migrants over to ice, you know, sanctuary jurisdiction. 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: Shall discuss that. 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: And then seeking sanctuary from the blue state of New York. 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: Our good friend, the one and only, Sean Hannity officially 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: announces his move to Florida full time. 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: I thought that was great. 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Another official Floridian which is he's gonna love it. Oh, 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: he's been down here a ton already, but it's gonna 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: be great. Welcome Sean, very excited to have you as 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: a full time Sunshine State resident. We've also got let 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: me see here, Texas Governor Abbott saying he's transported ninety 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: five thousand migrants, So we've got some ninety five thousand 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: migrants to Democrat run cities. 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 3: We have some. 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: Important issues of immigration to discuss, to be sure, one 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: of the most important continuous subjects here on the show. 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: So that's given you a rough road map of where 44 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: we're going. But I do have for your listening enjoyment. 45 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: Now more of the not just fallout, but also the 46 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: all out effort to defend Claude Dean Gay. I have 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: seen some crazy. 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: Stuff in my time. 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: Honestly, I have seen Democrats lie about Trump for four 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: years of Russia collusion and then not care about the 51 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: fact that it was all a total fabrication. I've seen 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: a lot of things, but to watch the left in 53 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: a frenzy really debase themselves, I mean, make a mockery 54 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: of themselves to try to defend Claudine Gay in this situation. 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: Let me just first say it turns out that doctor Gay, 56 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: are they gonna. 57 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: Let her keep this doctorate in the humanities? I do 58 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 3: wonder about that. 59 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: I would wonder who wrote a better doctoral thesis, or 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: maybe borrowed a better doctoral thesis, Doctor Gay or doctor 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: Jill Biden. Neither of them are carrying stethoscopes. 62 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: Around, but doctor Gay, doctor Jill Biden. But here's what 63 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: we know. She is going to receive her. 64 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: A nine hundred thousand dollars salary and stay in the 65 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: Harvard Political Science department. So she's stepping down as president 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: of Harvard University, but she keeps a great job A 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: Harvard professorship, and it's gonna make a million dollars basically. Sure, 68 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: if you added some other benefits and things, it's over 69 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: a million dollars. 70 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: So that's the punishment. Huh. 71 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: There's a lot of interesting and really mind blowing explanations 72 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: of this. I wanted to share some of them with you, 73 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: just so we can all have a reminder of what 74 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: we were up against. First of all, this was my favorite. Actually, 75 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: here is CNN a CNN reporter, Matt Egan. I want 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: you to listen. 77 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: Now. 78 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: Look, not all of us are, you know, academics who've 79 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: got masters or PhDs, obviously, but we all basically know 80 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: what plagiarism is, right. You know, you take stuff, you 81 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: pretend you wrote the stuff, but it's somebody else's stuff. 82 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: You don't quote it, you don't cite it, and clearly 83 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: you didn't mean to do either. Here is CNN just 84 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: twisting in knots to try to explain this situation as 85 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: though it's not an obvious plagiarism scandal, it's maybe something else. 86 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: This is cut seven, go for it. 87 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 4: These plagiarism allegations where clutting Gay has had to issue corrections, 88 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: multiple corrections, Now, we should note that clutting Gay has 89 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: not been accused of stealing anyone's ideas in any of 90 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: her writings. She's been accused of sort of more like 91 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: copying other people's writings without attribution, So it's been more 92 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: sloppy attribution than stealing anyone's ideas. 93 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: No, actually, she's being accused of stealing ideas, because that's 94 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: the same thing. 95 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: Isn't that amazing. 96 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: She's not being accused of idea theft. She's being accused 97 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: of cutting and pasting other people's published work and pretending 98 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: it's her work, and accused over fifty or sixty times. 99 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: That's CNN. 100 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: You just heard what this guy says. It's remarkable. But 101 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: whatever they can do, whatever smoke screen they can throw 102 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: up because they know, they know. Oh, this is a 103 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: meaningful blow to the diversity, equity and inclusion apparatus that 104 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: if the black female president of Harvard University is fireable, 105 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: any DEI higher anywhere within the system is fireable. Although 106 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: as we know, it's really just a demotion, not a firing, 107 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: but you know, close close in this case to be sure. 108 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, but not enough. Let me see 109 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: The New York Times so skilled in the most mendacious propaganda. 110 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: New York Times rights how a proxy fight over campus 111 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: politics brought down Harvard's president a proxy fight over campus politics. 112 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: She said that there are some cases where you can 113 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: call for the extermination of the Jews on campus. 114 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: And then we found found out that. 115 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: She's a serial plagiarizer with nobody of work to justify 116 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: her professorship. What so ever, Harvard, do you know, Hardy 117 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: is I mean, this is stake step back, because I 118 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: had a number of friends when I worked in the government. 119 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: I had friends with not only the master's degrees. If 120 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: you work in the government, a master's degree is like, 121 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: you know, it's like buying a latte. I mean, everybody's 122 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: got one, and you know, and master's degree in international 123 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: relations and master's degree and security studies, all these things. 124 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: And so I worked with a lot of those people 125 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: on a bunch of them have PhDs. And you know, 126 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: one of the most common things I would hear from 127 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: and I'm talking about people with PhDs from you know, 128 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: the Yale History Department or the Harvard Political Science Department 129 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: or you know whatever, you know, Stanford, I would say, 130 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: so you work in the government's interesting and they would 131 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: tell me, particularly if they were white male, Yeah, I 132 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: couldn't get a job in academia. I would say, you 133 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: can't get a job in academia with your credentials, No, 134 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: no chance, can't even get an interview really for a 135 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: state school position, never mind an elite university. So you know, 136 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: this is also when you think back to Elizabeth Warren. 137 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren, where is an entirely unremarkable, mediocre law student 138 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: who ends up as a law professor at Harvard. Why 139 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: because she pretended to be a Native American sitting bull crap? 140 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: She was called, I. 141 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: Believe by the one and Only and culter right. I mean, 142 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: there are people who see this and they understand what's 143 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: going on here. They see the system, they see how. 144 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: It is a falsehood. 145 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: And really, so you know, Elizabeth Warren gained the system 146 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 2: in the most obvious way of pretending she was a 147 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: fake Native American. But here I sit and I think 148 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: to myself, what happens now with this system. Well, they're 149 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: defending this in the most aggressive ways, where there is 150 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: no effort to sound like you're being reasonable. 151 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: It's just whatever defense you can throw up. 152 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: It's the equivalent of flailing right intellectual equivalent of flailing 153 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: just whatever you can do to try to run some cover. 154 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: For the situation. Here. 155 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: I can give you more examples of this, but understand, 156 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: the whole dei apparatus is built on the demand that 157 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: standards be lowered and then the demand that you not 158 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: talk about the lowered standards. Well, that's a problem for 159 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: some people. Some people don't like being forced to lie. 160 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: Some people don't like being forced to live in the 161 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: lies of others. We're seeing that here. But if you're 162 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: wondering the lengths that they will go to, as I said, 163 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: a proxy fight over campus politics is how Harvard describes it. 164 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: Bro. 165 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: You had an unqualified woman elevated for reasons of diversity, equity, 166 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: and inclusion to be the president of Harvard University. She 167 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: stumbled terribly during congressional questioning over anti semitism. Although that 168 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: was the opinion the left wanted her to have. I 169 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: have to remind everybody of that she was not going 170 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: rogue when she said that. That's why the other university 171 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: president said it as well. But a couple of them, 172 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: at least, what was it, you pen a mit, you 173 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: pen president gone mit That President's still holding on. I 174 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: believe right team, let me know if I mean, I 175 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: think you could Yeah, I think you can measure her 176 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 2: career with an egg timer at this point, but you know. 177 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: Still holding on. We'll see here though you have really 178 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 3: the mentality I mean, if you're wondering. 179 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: This is from the Associated Press, which is supposed to 180 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: be it's not, of course, but it's supposed to be honest. 181 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: Reporting about all of this. 182 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: And they write, or I should say, neutral, straightforward. 183 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: Reporting about all of this. 184 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: They write the AP Harvard's president resignation highlights new conservative 185 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: weapon against colleges plagiarism. 186 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: Okay, can we take a step back, everybody? 187 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: A conservative weapon against colleges plagiarism. 188 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: I sit here. 189 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: It's like saying conservatives have started a new campaign pouncing 190 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: on those who steal from homes. They call them burglars 191 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: and insist on the enforcement of the law. You say, well, 192 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: hold on a second. I thought we all agree that 193 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: that's bad. I thought we all agree that plagiarism is bad. 194 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: This is the new weapon. This is the quintessential cliched 195 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: Conservatives pounce moment, or in this case, Chris Rufo pounces. 196 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: I'll get into that in a second. I mean, it's 197 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: this is how crazy it is. They're trying to redefine plagiarism. 198 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: They're trying to tell us suddenly that it doesn't matter. 199 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: People's academic careers are ruined for this all the time. 200 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: People's professional careers can be really marred by this. I 201 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: mean there's there can be major consequences. Usually are for 202 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: other people. I know people who have been fired from 203 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: their media jobs for plagiarizing in articles. You go and 204 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: find this is a thing that happens fired. I mean 205 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: it's taken very seriously. Now suddenly people who work in 206 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: media and people who work in academia are saying, I mean, 207 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: his plagiarism really a thing? 208 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: Though? Is idea theft really a thing? You know? It's 209 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: like I say, it would be. 210 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 2: It is as though someone who is protected on the 211 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: left is caught, you know, stealing from a store and 212 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: they say it's not shoplifting, it's taking without remembering to 213 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: ask politely if they. 214 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: Could borrow the good that they took. 215 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you could try to redefine anything that way, 216 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, it's doing and 217 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: that's what happened here. They keep saying allegedly, allegedly. 218 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 3: Not alleged. You can see it. 219 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: It's not a First of all, this isn't a crime, 220 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: so there's no reporting requirement to say that. There's a 221 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: presumption of innocence. I understand, right, allegedly murdered someone you know, 222 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: you should say allegedly until it's proven in a core law. 223 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,479 Speaker 3: Because if someone murdered. 224 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: Someone you know, that's really bad, you don't have to 225 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: say allegedly plagiarized. 226 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 3: She plagiarized. 227 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: It's clear for anyone to see. Here's her published work. 228 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: Here's other people's published work that wrote before her. She 229 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: took it, didn't give it attribution. If she was a student, 230 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: she'd be fired. I mean, she would be expelled. 231 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: We all know this. But they're so desperate. Why are 232 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: they so desperate? Why does this matter to them so much? 233 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: Across the media, across academia, they are making fools of 234 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: themselves in defense of Claudine Gay. But people think, oh, 235 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: is this really that big of an issue. Apparently the 236 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: left things it's a very big issue. Let's come back 237 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: into this, and I have the I didn't read you 238 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 2: the associated press text. 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They they're speaking 287 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: truth to power. 288 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: But on the right, if you catch somebody doing something naughty, 289 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: you pounce. Okay, well, this was quite a moment from 290 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: the Associated Press. I want you to hear this one, 291 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: it says Christopher Rufo, who of course, now they have 292 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: to try to just go all in to tear down 293 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: Christopher Rufo because he was right and he got her right. 294 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he exposed this prominent DEI celebrated figure. But 295 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: Christopher Rufo, this is the Associated Press piece, a conservative 296 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: activist who helped orchestrate the event, celebrator her departure as 297 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: a win in his campaign. Again, so lead institutions, et cetera, 298 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: et cetera. Formerly on Twitter, on ex rather, he wrote 299 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: scalped invoking and this is what I wanted you to hear, 300 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: invoking a gruesome practice taken up by white colonists who. 301 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: Sought to eradicate Native Americans. Oh okay, okay. 302 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: So scalping, in the AP's definition of this is a 303 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 2: bad thing that the bad white people did to the 304 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: Native Americans. 305 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: Perhaps they need a refresher. 306 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 2: That the scalping practice had very long history and roots 307 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: in the Native American tribes that we are for some 308 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: reason this country is supposed to pretend we're not engaged 309 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: in perpetual warfare and conflict over tribal boundaries, et cetera, 310 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 2: like all other tribes through all history. 311 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: Essentially in this it's madness. 312 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: But yes, the problem you see with the practice of 313 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: scalping is its appropriation and therefore ownership by the white colonists, 314 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: not the Native Americans who are doing it and who 315 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 2: did it to the white colonists first, Okay, that's an 316 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: interesting one. 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And I believe as we 341 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 5: continue our congressional investigation that we will uncover what will 342 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 5: be the greatest scandal in higher education because the Harvard 343 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 5: Corporation members themselves are complicit in this cover up of 344 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 5: her plagiarism and again, most importantly, their failure to protect 345 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 5: you as students on campus. 346 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: Now, that was congress Woman Stephanic, and if you recall 347 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: she was the one who questioned Claudine Gay and got 348 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: that jaw dropping answer from her about how calling for 349 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: the extermination of the Jews might or might not be 350 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: a violation of the Harvard campus code, Like it really depends. 351 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: I mean, how did they say it? 352 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: You know, people just looked at this, like what the 353 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: heck is going on, especially on a campus where using 354 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: the wrong pronouns can get you in trouble, and you know, 355 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: and any perceived misogyny because you know, it just goes 356 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: on and on and on. Okay, okay, you know you say, 357 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: can't say things like man up anymore because that's misogynistic. 358 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 3: What if you're gonna woman up? 359 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: I mean, the whole thing is insane, right, Campuses have 360 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: been like this for a long time, but she is 361 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: or she was able to point of left wing lunacy 362 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: and people need to stop writing massive checks. Harvard has 363 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: fifty five billion dollar endowment and just stop doing this 364 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: or it will never change. And I don't know, I'll 365 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: be honest with you, I don't know that it will 366 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 2: change right now, or I should say they're trying, We're trying. 367 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: This is a step in the right direction, but this 368 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: battle is far from one this is the this is 369 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 2: the opening salvo. They have gone so far into the 370 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: depths of the left that this is going to take 371 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: years and years of concerted effort just to make these 372 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 2: campuses somewhat sane in. 373 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 3: Terms of their policies, their politics. 374 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: And the narrative that they are increasingly just brainwashing kids 375 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: with right. So that's that's all to be part of. 376 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 3: I think that. 377 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: The the settlement, by the way, or rather the demotion 378 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: of Claudinine Gay that allows her to keep her nine 379 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars salary and also dollars to do what 380 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: exactly you know, you really think with this just keep 381 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: her professor, let at in the political science department. 382 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: I think that they they are doing that. 383 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: Maybe for legal reasons to avoid a lawsuit, because Gay 384 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 2: could very well sue Harvard for wrongful termination and then 385 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: try to subpoena some of the internal records and discussions 386 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: about her firing by the Harvard Corporation by the board. 387 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: And yeah, they don't want that. 388 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: They don't want that, So that may be why, because otherwise, 389 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: also I think that Harvard is entirely if they had 390 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: any chance of keeping Claudding Gay in her role without 391 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: sustaining ongoing and massive reputational damage. As I said, and 392 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: it is so true, the left cannot abide mockery. They 393 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: cannot allow people to laugh at them, because that just 394 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: destroys their power. 395 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: That destroys the power they have to make people think that. 396 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: They're elite, to make people think they're the smart ones, 397 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 2: to make people think that they should be in charge. 398 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: Oh, they do not like jokes. 399 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: They do not like being made fun of, as you know. 400 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: And this is also why remember there was that blogger 401 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: just recently who got sent to jail for making the 402 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton voting memes about you know, you can vote 403 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: by phone or whatever it was, and the dj Ander 404 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: Biden sent that kind of prison. 405 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 3: They don't like jokes, they don't like mockery. 406 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: They went on, they communicated with Twitter, as you know, 407 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: to try to bring down things about I believe it 408 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: was Hunter Biden that too much mockery not allowed Biden White. 409 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: House speaking to Twitter. Hey, he's got to pull that down. 410 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: They don't like it. 411 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: It's always true of those who are lacking in humility 412 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 2: and who come from a place of insecurity, fundamentally a 413 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: place of insecurity, of lack of belief in themselves. They 414 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: compensate for that, and they compensate for it by wanting 415 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 2: to control you, wanting to be authoritarians, and how you 416 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: are not allowed to make fun of them, right, and 417 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: that I think because Harvard was just getting abused online 418 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: as a result of this. I mean, Harvard was the 419 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 2: most elite university in the world. Everyone's like, really, really Harvard, 420 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: So that was why they had to do something. But 421 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that this is the end. There could 422 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: be further litigation. I know that Chris Ruffo has put 423 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: out a bounty of sorts on finding other high level 424 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: academics who have been serial plagiarists. And I mean, I 425 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: can tell you this. You know, you know who enforces 426 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 2: plagiarism rules. Colleges and universities. They're the only ones that 427 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 2: do it. 428 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: Really. 429 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you could, you know, Sue, if someone 430 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: wrote a book and they copied and pasted whole sections 431 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: without sure But generally speaking, unless it's a copyright infringement issue, 432 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 2: the only place that's really going to enforce this stuff 433 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: are news outlets to some degree and college campuses. Does 434 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 2: anyone think, and I mean anyone, that there has been 435 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: an effort to look into the possible plagiarism of prominent 436 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: minority DEI celebrated hires in any of these universities, Meaning, 437 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: do you think that there was a look the other 438 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: way or don't even you know, don't look at all 439 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: policy about whether there was scholarship that had been taken 440 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: without proper authorization or take it? 441 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: What was I keep forgetting the. 442 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: Term inadequate site, inadequate citation problems. I can assure you 443 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 2: that the system that no one at Harvard, no one 444 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: at Yale, no one in the Ivy League, no one 445 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: at Duke, no one at Stanford knowing at any of 446 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: these schools. Amherst where I went, can't pronounce the H. 447 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: That's always the tell. Not allowed to pronounce the H. 448 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: Then it's like you're not in the No, you're not 449 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: in the club. It's Amherst, not Amherst. Yeah, were all 450 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: that in the very beginning. 451 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: Wherever you are. 452 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 2: Do you think that any of the any of the 453 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: not just the boards, but the various professorial committees in 454 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: these places we're thinking themselves. 455 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 3: I don't know this. 456 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: New hire we have who's a racial minority and a 457 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: member of the LGBTQ plus community. I think that some 458 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: of her stuff for his stuff, you know whatever. I 459 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: think that some of this individual stuff I've seen before. 460 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 3: Did you think they would dig into that? 461 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: Of course not, because the point wasn't scholarship. And that's 462 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: what this all really gets to. That's why there's such 463 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: a frenzy around defense. The point was the left on 464 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: campus and across society, across America has made a system 465 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: where people are elevated based upon skin color, gender identity, 466 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: sexual orientation. And the best thing is you can get 467 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: all of those things together, so you get kind of 468 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: a the the you know, all of the victimization rolled 469 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: into one individual if you can, if you can find that, 470 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: that's the absolute goal, and then you elevate these people 471 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: and say, see, look what we've done. 472 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 3: We now have. 473 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: A a pan sexual you know, Inuit teaching Shakespeare at 474 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 2: you know, Brown University, right, And everyone goes, oh my. 475 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: Gosh, that's amazing. 476 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: I've always wanted to just study under a pan sexual Inuit. 477 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 3: This is exactly what I've been on my whole life. 478 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: All the Shakespeare have read leads to this moment. 479 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: And that's what the kids on the campuses and that's 480 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: what the professors are supposed to do. They're supposed to 481 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: praise this and think it's fantastic. But guess what, there's 482 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: a problem. You can't just those should be the only 483 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: questions that matter. But they've inverted that. Those are secondary 484 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: or even tertiary concerns. Those are way in the background. 485 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: You know what matters to them, Exactly what I said, 486 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: that the whole campus gets to clap and feel good 487 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: about itself because the first Inuit pan sexual professor of 488 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: Shakespeare's teaching. Brown, by the way, is a real looney man. 489 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Brown University, but it's a really crazy place. 490 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 3: It's a crazy place of all the I mean, Wesleyan 491 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: is very very crazy. Brown is a crazy place. I'm 492 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 3: trying to think of what else is at the absolute top. 493 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: They're not even in the Harvard's getting all the heat here. 494 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: Imagine what it's like at these other places. I think 495 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: Wesleyan had a naked dorm for a while, true story. 496 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: Check it out, walk around naked a newdest dorm. I 497 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 2: mean that actually sounds kind of fun. 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Legacy box dot com, slash buck. 533 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: Heard it on the shelf here More on the podcast 534 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast Deep Dives, more contents, more common sense. 535 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: Find the guides on the iHeart app or wherever you 536 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 537 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the border crisis, immigration. I 538 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: know that Speaker of the House Johnson was just down. 539 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: I believe that eagle pass and uh yeah, we've got 540 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: we got We're gonna invite him on the program this week. 541 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: If you can make the time, we'll talk to the speaker, 542 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: but a lot of things happening at the border. 543 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: It's the most wide open border that it has ever been. 544 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: There should be no surprise that this is where the 545 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: Democrat Biden regime has taken things. You'll notice there aren't 546 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: really any debate that happened on TV about this because 547 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: it is indefensible. Democrats cannot They can only throw insults, 548 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: but they could never defend the position because their position 549 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: is open borders. So we'll dive into that here. Coming 550 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: up in a few minutes. 551 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: I've got Ed in Colorado wants to talk plagiarism. What's 552 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 3: going on? 553 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 6: Ed, Colorado? How's it going out in Florida right now? 554 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta say this time of year, Floridians 555 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: feel pretty pretty smart. 556 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: You know. 557 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm walking around in a T shirt and flip flops 558 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: out here. How you doing? You got you gotta ski 559 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: park on, buddy. 560 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 6: We're twenty something degrees. I got my leather clothes on 561 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 6: top and snow on the ground. But it's still a 562 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 6: beautiful sunshine day. 563 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: Look, people in Colorado tend to love their state. What's 564 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: on your mind? 565 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, Colin, about this Harvard thing, and it just it 566 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 6: just gripes me really bad. My at the time eleven 567 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 6: year old sixth grade daughter was caught with plagiarism and 568 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 6: she really didn't even understand what. 569 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: It was in the sixth grade era. 570 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 6: In the sixth grade, yes, so she had actually turned 571 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 6: in two assignments and got hit twice and got two zeros. 572 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 6: But yeah, took her punishment. We sat down, we discussed plagiarism. 573 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 6: She learned what malajiorism was, and she learned from it. 574 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 6: She went on and she recovered from it, and she 575 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 6: hasn't done it since. 576 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 5: Now. 577 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 6: My point is, if my eleven year old daughter can 578 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 6: take her punishment for plagiarism and learn from it, why 579 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 6: can't Harvard do the same with their president. Well, and 580 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 6: first of all, thank you take lessons from my daughter 581 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 6: who can tell them all about it, and it makes 582 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 6: my daughter a bigger person than the president at Harvard. 583 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Ed for calling, And I'll address 584 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: what you're saying. First off, you know, I'm glad your 585 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: daughter learned a lessons always, you know, I mean, I 586 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: remember I was when I was coaching soccer. 587 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: Which I did for my high school. We just high school. 588 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: One of my players at a very inopportune moment, Drop 589 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: kicked the ball at another player got a red card 590 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 2: going into the playoffs, and I had to sit him 591 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: down and say, look, this is really bad, but but 592 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: better that you do this in your high school career 593 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: at this level. Then he went on to play in college, 594 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: and you know, he was a he was an exceptional player. 595 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: But you know, it's better to learn. That's you know, 596 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: lessons learned. Still a thing. 597 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 3: Man, He really whacked that other kid with the ball too. 598 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: It was it was not good. 599 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, whoa buddy? And he 600 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: was such a calm, cool customer too. Anyway, better learn 601 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: the lessons young, obviously learning No, no one's gonna remember 602 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: you got a zero in sixth grade, but they will 603 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: remember if you get expelled from Harvard, if you get 604 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: expelled from uh, you know, University of Virginia, if you 605 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: get expelled from University of Florida, you know whatever. 606 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 607 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: And that's what they do to people. They they really 608 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: hurt people over this rule, and academia treats it. It's 609 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: almost like blowing a source, which is a big thing 610 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: in journalism. 611 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: Right. Journalists still will say, oh, I won't blow. 612 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: A sot you know, I'm not gonna, you know, burn 613 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: burn a source. I should say, you know, you can 614 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: blow someone's cover, you can burn a source. Burning a source. 615 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: Source burning is a is something that journalists really pretend 616 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: is a total unacceptable scourge in the profession. They act 617 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: like that with plagiarism in and by the way, I 618 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: think that's also not you know, if your right wing, 619 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: don't ever talk to the media because they'll burn you. 620 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: But I think that that's the same thing with plagism. 621 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: And they all pretend that it's so important. Now they're 622 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: acting like it's not. To Ed's question, though, I wanted 623 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 2: to circle around to this, and you know his story 624 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: about what his daughter learned in the lesson. The reason 625 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 2: they are desperate to throw up a defense here is 626 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: that if Harvard University sets the precedent that a prominent 627 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: dei higher can be fired for plagiarism, what happens. And 628 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: there are groups that are going to be looking at 629 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: this now. We already know that what happens if the 630 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 2: prominent d or anyhow, by the way, I think the 631 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: president of Stanford he was a white guy, so nobody cared. 632 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: I think he got fired recently for plagiarism, if memory 633 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: serves correct me if I'm wrong team about that one. 634 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: But so this is already a precedent for non DEI hires. 635 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: But if you set the president that a DEI higher 636 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: can be fired, Oh, I don't think she's the last 637 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: one that will be fired for plagiarism. I don't think so. 638 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: That's why they fight this so much. Jim and Melbourne, Florida. 639 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: What's going on, Jim, former NYPD, what's up? 640 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call, Buck, I love your show. 641 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 7: I mean very simply. During my twenty years with the NYPD, 642 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 7: I saw this happen there as well. When you have 643 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 7: an agency, or a college or a corporation that is 644 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 7: more worried about their appearance and their presentation than they 645 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 7: are principals, they will look at individuals who they want 646 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 7: to give the appearance that they're looking for, and the 647 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 7: only time that they will dig into the background of 648 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 7: a person is if they want to disqualify them. In 649 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 7: this case, they chose this professor to be in charge 650 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 7: of the college for her appearance, her back ground, her 651 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 7: political beliefs, and they didn't want to look at their 652 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 7: background because this was easily findable. 653 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: Let me say, let me say this to you real, 654 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: real quick, Jim, do you think she's the only one 655 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,479 Speaker 2: where this was the case? 656 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely not, absolutely not. There's probably tons of them. 657 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 7: But again, you're only looking at a person's background if 658 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 7: you're truly interested that they are principled in the right 659 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 7: party for the job and qualified. If the appearance is 660 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 7: what matters, you don't want to look because you don't 661 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 7: want to find something instead of going to disqualify somebody 662 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 7: who said, look. 663 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: Deal it, great us And this is Jim, thank you 664 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: for calling in. This is what college admissions has been 665 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: doing and lying about it for decades, and now the 666 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 2: Supreme Court slapped them down and said that's unconstitutional.