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Danielle Robay: Bookmarked by Reese's book Club is presented by Apple Books. Hi,

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Danielle Robay: I'm Danielle Robe and welcome to Bookmarked by Reese's book Club.

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Danielle Robay: On today's show, we're announcing the all new Reese's book

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Danielle Robay: Club pick, and we're getting all the juicy details from

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Danielle Robay: the author herself in her first interview on the day

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Danielle Robay: her book is released. Okay, so we can all wish

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Danielle Robay: her a happy pub day together and later, the star

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Danielle Robay: of Mean Girls, the musical movie you may know her

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Danielle Robay: as Katie Herron and Gabrie Rice and her mom Kate

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Danielle Robay: are here to share how they reinvented a classic Jane

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Danielle Robay: Austen novel for a whole new audience. They said it

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Danielle Robay: in Australia with movie stars and a gen Z heroin.

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Danielle Robay: But before we try to make fetch happen, it's time

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Danielle Robay: to announce the August Reese's book Club Pick. So you

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Danielle Robay: all know that I was a fan of Reese's Book

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Danielle Robay: Club before I started hosting this podcast, and part of

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Danielle Robay: what makes this so fun for me is that I

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Danielle Robay: now get the side scoop. So we are going to

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Danielle Robay: talk about everything before everybody else knows about it. And

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Danielle Robay: here's how it works. At the beginning of every month,

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Danielle Robay: I'll announce the brand new Reese's Book Club pick right here,

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Danielle Robay: and then we'll kick things off with something really special,

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Danielle Robay: a release day conversation with the author herself, so she's

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Danielle Robay: coming here first, and then at the end of the month,

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Danielle Robay: we'll bring her back for a full deep dive, meaning

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Danielle Robay: we have all month long to read the book, mark

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Danielle Robay: our favorite passages, use our favorite highlighters, write our favorite

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Danielle Robay: unpack all the juicy details together. And we have the

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Danielle Robay: Reese Witherspoon herself here to announce this month's Reese's Book

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Danielle Robay: Club pick. Hey Reese, Hey everybody, I'm so excited.

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Danielle Robay: Our book club pick this month is Once Upon a

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Danielle Robay: Time in Dollywood by Ashley Jordan.

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Danielle Robay: How exciting, Thank you Reese.

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Danielle Robay: Now.

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Danielle Robay: Ashley Jordan is a debut novelist from Atlanta, and what

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Danielle Robay: a debut it is. If you've ever dreamed of becoming

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Danielle Robay: a right she is an inspiration. She wrote this novel

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Danielle Robay: story for the ages. Ashley, Welcome to the club.

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Ashley Jordan: Thank you so much. This is literally a dream come true.

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Ashley Jordan: Thank you so much for having me.

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Danielle Robay: Well, it feels like a dream for us to have

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Danielle Robay: you too, because your book is officially out in the

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Danielle Robay: world today. So happy pub Day. I'm so excited for you.

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Danielle Robay: How are you celebrating.

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Ashley Jordan: I'm celebrating by crying a little bit, and then I

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Ashley Jordan: a launch of it at one of my favorite bookstores,

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Ashley Jordan: It'll be my first event. So yeah, that'll be a

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Danielle Robay: Okay, So one time I had a new job at

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Danielle Robay: so hearing you talk about your first book event, I

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Danielle Robay: you write. Are you going to start some sort of

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Ashley Jordan: Ooh, that would be great, I think, yeah, I think

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Ashley Jordan: I would like to do that. I don't know exactly

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Danielle Robay: That's like when presidential candidates vote for themselves.

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Ashley Jordan: I love it. Yeah, exactly.

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Danielle Robay: You know.

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Ashley Jordan: Yes, sure, okay, yes. So my main character, Eve is

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Ashley Jordan: Yes, I think it's my favorite.

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Danielle Robay: Is there a chapter you had the most fun writing?

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Ashley Jordan: Ooh, the most fun writing. So I'm a little bit damaged.

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Ashley Jordan: So I love writing like the breakups. I love writing

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Ashley Jordan: the fights, keeping the angst, like anytime that they're arguing

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Ashley Jordan: I said what I said? Well, I'm no, I'm not

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Danielle Robay: Wait what does that mean? Like, can you give me

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Ashley Jordan: Oh kind of real housewives. But also, like you know,

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Danielle Robay: You know now that you're sharing that it's that tension

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Danielle Robay: that you also really share in your book. Yes, and

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Danielle Robay: it's not often that I get to speak to an

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Danielle Robay: Are there any breadcrumbs that you left for us in

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Danielle Robay: Asking for a friend, I want to know the easter eggs.

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Ashley Jordan: Well, there is one easter egg that probably will only

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Ashley Jordan: apply to like a handful of people. But this book

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Ashley Jordan: Walking Dead. So I left some little breadcrumbs for my

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Ashley Jordan: I remember when I pitched it, I said that it

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Ashley Jordan: meats Shrinking.

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Danielle Robay: Probably that's cool. Do you have sort of a pie

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Ashley Jordan: Oh god, yes, there's so many, I think in this

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Ashley Jordan: is my north star. Bolu Babilola one of the Reese's

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Ashley Jordan: She's the reason that I ever aspired to be a writer,

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Ashley Jordan: That's how you write, is you have to read other writers.

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Danielle Robay: So aside from the fact that your debut novel is

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Ashley Jordan: I think that I did it. I still I'm like,

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Danielle Robay: There is this mentality that you have to be like

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Danielle Robay: a perfect package before you can find your other puzzle piece. Yes,

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Danielle Robay: and I agree with you. I've never found that to

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Danielle Robay: there a point in your life where that clicked for you,

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Danielle Robay: because I find oftentimes, particularly in creative professions, that the

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Danielle Robay: most need to hear.

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Ashley Jordan: Wow. Yes, yes, for sure. And I think because I

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Danielle Robay: a huge congratulations.

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Ashley Jordan: Thank you so much. This is amazing. I cannot wait

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Danielle Robay: We'll be right back with the mother daughter duo behind

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Danielle Robay: the young adult Pick of the Summer, Don't Go Anywhere, Hungary, Kate,

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Danielle Robay: Welcome to the club.

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Danielle Robay: Thank you so much, Danielle.

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Angourie Rice: Thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited that you're here. I've been prepping

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Speaker 1: for this interview. You guys have something in common with

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Danielle Robay: I love all of those things.

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Angourie Rice: Were they all invented by mothers and daughters?

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Danielle Robay: Angourie, you're sort of a genius. It's not quite that,

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Danielle Robay: So it's all things that were built in thirty days.

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Danielle Robay: And you two wrote this book in thirty days. I

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Angourie Rice: Well, the first draft was thirty days.

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Danielle Robay: I still have that first draft, all of the notebooks.

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Danielle Robay: It was all handwritten.

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Danielle Robay: So that was my next question. How did you write?

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Danielle Robay: Did you write separately? Did you write together? Because I

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Kate Rice: I mean, we were it was summer holidays for us.

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Kate Rice: It was during COVID, so we couldn't have any visitors

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Kate Rice: And we had already plotted out the whole thing, so

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Angourie Rice: Yeah, I think the structure worked well. And also just

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Danielle Robay: How did you navigate that?

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Kate Rice: Well? We talked through the story a lot, and we

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Danielle Robay: And Kate, you've been a play right and so you're

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Danielle Robay: not new to writing in any way. Ungari. What things

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Angourie Rice: My mom is probably one of the smartest people I know.

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Angourie Rice: I had grown up just like wandering around the house

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Angourie Rice: So to actually be in that process as opposed to

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Danielle Robay: I think I really like what you just shared, and

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Danielle Robay: I'd never thought about the idea that people don't actually

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Angourie Rice: And in adapting, we already had Jane Austen's framework of

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Angourie Rice: because she'd already thought about a lot of plot things

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Danielle Robay: So Jane Austen is prolific and writers seem to really

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Danielle Robay: That's funny.

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Kate Rice: I think in a way we are all still living

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Kate Rice: So I suspect that's got something to do with why,

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Danielle Robay: Well as a foil to clever women, there's also some

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Kate Rice: I mean everything that we had to change, like so

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Kate Rice: much of it just translated directly really. But the things

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Kate Rice: we had to change were around women as property because

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Kate Rice: they couldn't, you know, women couldn't earn their own money.

435
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Kate Rice: They were part of a family headed by a man.

436
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Kate Rice: So that was kind of the main thing, and that

437
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Kate Rice: did have to be reflected very much with our mister

438
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Kate Rice: Darcy journey. Well, because you know, in Prime and Prejudice

439
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,880
Kate Rice: he swoops in and saves the day and for Elizabeth,

440
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Kate Rice: and we wanted to maintain that feeling of him being

441
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Kate Rice: perfect for her without her being completely disempowered. So she

442
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,920
Kate Rice: now is in our version, she is much more empowered

443
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Kate Rice: and she does, to a certain extent, save.

444
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Kate Rice: Her own day.

445
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Danielle Robay: Yeah.

446
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Angourie Rice: I think too that mister Darcy is someone who he's

447
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:33,680
Angourie Rice: not particularly charming. He's quite awkward, and it's about sort

448
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,560
Angourie Rice: of hitting that awkwardness. What does awkwardness today mean? Is

449
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,840
Angourie Rice: it the same as it was two hundred and something

450
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Angourie Rice: years ago or is it slightly different? Also? I think

451
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Angourie Rice: maybe for Jane Austin, it was really easy for mister Darcy,

452
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Angourie Rice: or not easy, but there were so many social rules

453
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Angourie Rice: around how to behave that I think it's quite pointed

454
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Angourie Rice: in her novels when people don't follow those social rules

455
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,159
Angourie Rice: and what that says about who they are. So I

456
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Angourie Rice: think in our version two, when we might consider our contemporary,

457
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Angourie Rice: our day to day having less social rules, it's about

458
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Angourie Rice: sort of showing how someone can still sort of operate

459
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Angourie Rice: within within society, either breaking those rules or bending them,

460
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Angourie Rice: and what that says about their character.

461
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Danielle Robay: Angourie, this isn't the first classic adaptation that you've been

462
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Danielle Robay: a part of. I didn't realize this Mean Girls is

463
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Danielle Robay: a retelling of Julius Caesar, and so did you. You're

464
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Danielle Robay: looking like you didn't know that either.

465
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Angourie Rice: I didn't. I didn't know that. I know it makes

466
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Angourie Rice: sense though it does, doesn't it? Well?

467
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Danielle Robay: When I learned it, I thought, Okay, Gretchen Wiener's monologue

468
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,520
Danielle Robay: saying we should all just.

469
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Angourie Rice: Jill Caesar stab Caesar. Yeah, we should not Sta, She's like,

470
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,399
Angourie Rice: makes much more. Yeah, Bruce is smarter. Didn't see Brunce

471
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Angourie Rice: is work?

472
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Danielle Robay: Yeah, Oh my god, please just recite for the rest

473
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Danielle Robay: of the podcast. That was fun.

474
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Angourie Rice: I wish, I wish I had it all?

475
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Danielle Robay: Do you still do you ever think of Katie Heron's lines?

476
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Danielle Robay: Are they to to like the tip of your tongue?

477
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:23,320
Angourie Rice: Ever? No more after playing her than before, like even

478
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Angourie Rice: like before I got that job. Mean Girls was always

479
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Angourie Rice: a part of my vocabulary. I think that's true for

480
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,760
Angourie Rice: a lot of people of who grew up with that movie.

481
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,960
Angourie Rice: It's just it's just in your vocabulary, and me playing

482
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Angourie Rice: her as I don't know, it's maybe made me actually

483
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Angourie Rice: say that her lines and lines from the movie less

484
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Angourie Rice: because I feel a bit like, I don't know, calling

485
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Angourie Rice: attention to the fact, and I don't want to do that.

486
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Danielle Robay: I know you're so humble. My like claim to infamy

487
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Danielle Robay: is that Tina Fey wrote the movie about my high

488
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,040
Danielle Robay: school and we had all those lunch tables. She was

489
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,439
Danielle Robay: so spot on with almost it was very funny. So

490
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,720
Danielle Robay: Jane Austin really was so prolific. She had drafts of

491
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Danielle Robay: Pride and Prejudice and Sense and Sensibility all written by

492
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Danielle Robay: the time she was twenty three years old. And she's

493
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Danielle Robay: also known for coining a bunch of these phrases that

494
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Danielle Robay: we still use today, like dinner party or dirt cheap.

495
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,800
Danielle Robay: If anybody's ever said dog tired, you can thank Jane Austen.

496
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Danielle Robay: I feel like some of these phrases could have been

497
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Danielle Robay: gen Z slang at the time. Are there any gen

498
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Danielle Robay: Z slang terms that you think will stand the test

499
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,719
Danielle Robay: of time? And Gari, do you use anything like riz

500
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,280
Danielle Robay: or crash out or skivity, anything that's going to sustain

501
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Danielle Robay: and endure.

502
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Angourie Rice: It's so funny you say that because I was reading

503
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Angourie Rice: a book trying to remember which book it was, but

504
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,600
Angourie Rice: it was a book from the mid twentyth century. It

505
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,840
Angourie Rice: would have been from like maybe the forties or fifties

506
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,560
Angourie Rice: that use the term crash out in the exact same

507
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,800
Angourie Rice: way that we are using it today. What And I

508
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,119
Angourie Rice: read that, I thought, this has just come back around.

509
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,240
Angourie Rice: That's so interesting. So I wish I could. I wish

510
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,199
Angourie Rice: I could cite my source, but I don't remember. I

511
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,800
Angourie Rice: just remember thinking that, Yeah, I think, I mean, I

512
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,000
Angourie Rice: don't think everything will stick around, but I think things

513
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,159
Angourie Rice: do come back around. So I don't know if the

514
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,639
Angourie Rice: slang will necessarily be present forever, but it will it

515
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,760
Angourie Rice: will return. I mean, that's something interesting that we wanted

516
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,280
Angourie Rice: to do with our book too, is we made it

517
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,800
Angourie Rice: sort of a conscious effort to not include any slang

518
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,359
Angourie Rice: because we were worried about it aging. So we wanted

519
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,560
Angourie Rice: to create sort of new things, new insults, new terms

520
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,280
Angourie Rice: of phrase that were not slang, that we're not swearing,

521
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,439
Angourie Rice: that could sort of exist in our little fictional world.

522
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,080
Angourie Rice: Clueless did that mean? Girls did that with fetch as well.

523
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,640
Angourie Rice: And then also when I think about when I think

524
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Angourie Rice: about Jane Austen, I'm sure there are words in there

525
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,720
Angourie Rice: that were slang at the time that we don't even recognize.

526
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,640
Angourie Rice: But also all the all of those phrases she coined

527
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Angourie Rice: which I didn't even know about, but you know, that's

528
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Angourie Rice: that's her also forging ahead. That's her not using the

529
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,679
Angourie Rice: slang at the time. That's her saying, we don't have

530
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Angourie Rice: a word for this or a phrase for this, let

531
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Angourie Rice: me describe it this way, which I love.

532
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Danielle Robay: Do you have any favorites from your book?

533
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Angourie Rice: Ah, there's something in there about him having as many

534
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,639
Angourie Rice: arms as an octopus and just as slimy or something

535
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:37,840
Angourie Rice: that's cute.

536
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,520
Kate Rice: Did that make it in Also, because we as well

537
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,880
Kate Rice: as not using any slang, we also didn't want to swear.

538
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,760
Kate Rice: We wanted to be able to say, there's you know

539
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:50,400
Kate Rice: there's no swearing, so yes, we talk about Dorian having

540
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,560
Kate Rice: a stick up his potato.

541
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Angourie Rice: Yeah, stick up his potato. I think that's hilarious. Still,

542
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,600
Angourie Rice: that's the thing. It's like, I don't care if nobody

543
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,480
Angourie Rice: else likes it. That makes me laugh. Well.

544
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Danielle Robay: Also, one of my really good friends is Australian and

545
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,320
Danielle Robay: she has the funniest terminology. I just asked her to

546
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,880
Danielle Robay: describe things to me, because you guys have all these

547
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,440
Danielle Robay: funny terms that we don't have in America, and so

548
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,880
Danielle Robay: I feel like there must be so many in the

549
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,520
Danielle Robay: book that we don't even know that are inspired by

550
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Danielle Robay: some Australian terms.

551
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Kate Rice: You've got tickets on yourself?

552
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Danielle Robay: What does that mean?

553
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,480
Danielle Robay: That means you think you're pretty good. You've got tickets,

554
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,160
Danielle Robay: you know, I don't know, like you're for sale or something.

555
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,280
Danielle Robay: I love that.

556
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,480
Danielle Robay: That's a good one, Kate, and wake up Australia. It means,

557
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,920
Danielle Robay: you know, stop stop dreaming, snap out of it, wake

558
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,600
Danielle Robay: up Australia.

559
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Angourie Rice: There were also there was one in there. I don't

560
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,320
Angourie Rice: remember what it was, but I think I said, I

561
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,920
Angourie Rice: don't even know what that is. You have to take

562
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Angourie Rice: that out. That's funny. My grandfather is quite well known

563
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,000
Angourie Rice: for making up phrases.

564
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Danielle Robay: Yeah wait really ah, yeah, that's that's true. I grew

565
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,360
Danielle Robay: up with him saying all sorts of bizarre things.

566
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,440
Angourie Rice: I just find I find nothing funnier than someone bungling

567
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,840
Angourie Rice: a turn of phrase, so saying like, oh, you know,

568
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,080
Angourie Rice: we'll we'll jump off that bridge when we get to it,

569
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,560
Angourie Rice: which is when we say, or like whatever floats your

570
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,240
Angourie Rice: goat or something. I just find that I find that

571
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Angourie Rice: so funny.

572
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Speaker 1: Whatever floats your goat is really good.

573
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Angourie Rice: Yeah.

574
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Danielle Robay: So Jane Austen was also known for illuminating little corners

575
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Danielle Robay: of our social and cultural lives the way you described

576
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Danielle Robay: And Gary, what did you want to illuminate in your

577
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Danielle Robay: own retelling?

578
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Angourie Rice: Well, I think initially we were thinking about how do

579
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,600
Angourie Rice: we translate mister Darcy who is young and independent and

580
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,320
Angourie Rice: rich today, and that's famous people, movie stars, influencers, musicians,

581
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,320
Angourie Rice: so I think, And so that came as an easy

582
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,720
Angourie Rice: answer to us for two reasons. It really matched Jane

583
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,120
Angourie Rice: Austen's sort of framework of someone who's wealthy and independent,

584
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Angourie Rice: But it also matched our special experience and maybe a

585
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,760
Angourie Rice: unique perspective that we had to tell as me being

586
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,280
Angourie Rice: an actor and Kate having chaperoned me until I was eighteen,

587
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Angourie Rice: so we both had a sort of a perspective on

588
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Angourie Rice: Hollywood and the industry that we wanted to talk about

589
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,320
Angourie Rice: because I think also in creating a character who had

590
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,000
Angourie Rice: gotten famous at a young age was interesting to us

591
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,880
Angourie Rice: and sort of talking about what fame means for someone

592
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,120
Angourie Rice: and what it does to someone, and also how drastically

593
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Angourie Rice: it affects how you interact with the world, and we

594
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,840
Angourie Rice: see that in Dorian and his friends, and we wanted

595
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,000
Angourie Rice: to explore that.

596
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,200
Kate Rice: I think for me, I was also really interested in

597
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,480
Kate Rice: the in legacy in mothers and daughter's families. Why do

598
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,360
Kate Rice: we culturally hold on to certain things? What are we

599
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Kate Rice: ready to let go? Are we destined to repeat the

600
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,080
Kate Rice: mistakes of our parents?

601
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,240
Kate Rice: You know?

602
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,720
Kate Rice: So this this is a retelling, but it is also

603
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,520
Kate Rice: the next generation, which was very important to me. I

604
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,920
Kate Rice: wanted it to be about what happens next in the

605
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,040
Kate Rice: Prime and Prejudice story.

606
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,680
Danielle Robay: It feels particularly apropos writing this as a mother daughter

607
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,080
Danielle Robay: do O, Kate, did you come to your own conclusion

608
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,600
Danielle Robay: about any of those questions?

609
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,400
Danielle Robay: Yes, well, I mean sort of. My hope is that

610
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,800
Danielle Robay: each generation gets a bit better Like that, if you're

611
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Danielle Robay: conscious about it, Like the default position is always going

612
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,000
Danielle Robay: to be to fall back into whatever you grew up with,

613
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,280
Danielle Robay: but the conscious decision to improve is something that we

614
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,560
Danielle Robay: can all do and go Okay. It was like this

615
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,400
Danielle Robay: for my mom. My mom was like this, I'm not

616
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,719
Danielle Robay: going to do that. I'm going to do this. And

617
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,840
Danielle Robay: that's in the book and I hope in our lives.

618
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,120
Kate Rice: It's really powerful. And I like the idea of what

619
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Kate Rice: you want to keep and what you want to change,

620
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,240
Kate Rice: because I think we all feel that about our family

621
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,560
Kate Rice: legacy in some way. So Stuck Up in Stupid is

622
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,560
Kate Rice: marketed as a book for a generation of teens who

623
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,800
Kate Rice: are definitely not looking for love. I have to tell you,

624
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,040
Kate Rice: I was astounded reading that. What do you mean they

625
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,200
Kate Rice: are not looking for love? What is so unique about

626
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Kate Rice: gen Z's approach to romance? Please school this millennial? I

627
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,560
Kate Rice: am confused.

628
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,000
Angourie Rice: Oh so, I think that's a particular reference to Lily,

629
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,920
Angourie Rice: our main character. She's not looking for love, and I

630
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Angourie Rice: think that's that is reflective of how she feels about

631
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,360
Angourie Rice: her mother and how her mother has, throughout her whole

632
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,320
Angourie Rice: life sort of depended on men and romance to make

633
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Angourie Rice: her feel happy and validated.

634
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,680
Angourie Rice: But I don't know.

635
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Angourie Rice: Maybe, I mean, I don't know if I can speak

636
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,319
Angourie Rice: to everyone born two thousand and one like me, But

637
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,120
Angourie Rice: maybe there's this sort of idea of like, maybe there's

638
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,880
Angourie Rice: a healthy sort of independence, like I don't need this

639
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,120
Angourie Rice: to complete me. I am whole as myself. A relationship

640
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,920
Angourie Rice: is nice, but I can be on my own in

641
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,279
Angourie Rice: this world and be okay with.

642
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,640
Kate Rice: That, which is just which makes me so happy because

643
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,640
Kate Rice: I spent my entire teenage years and twenties going where's

644
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,520
Kate Rice: the one who's going to complete me? And I was

645
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,680
Kate Rice: literally writing that in my diary, going where's the guy?

646
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,640
Kate Rice: Where is my you know and your other half?

647
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,600
Kate Rice: Where is my other half? I'm useless, I'm nothing without

648
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,800
Kate Rice: a man like I was very much of that mindset,

649
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:04,400
Kate Rice: And it makes me so happy that my two beautiful

650
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Kate Rice: gen Z children don't feel that and feel quite content

651
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Kate Rice: in themselves and are happy to bring that to a

652
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,240
Kate Rice: relationship if it happens, and if it doesn't, that's also fine.

653
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Danielle Robay: That's really cool that you feel that way, Kate. I

654
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Danielle Robay: think a lot of parents still want their kids. They

655
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,879
Danielle Robay: put a lot of pressure on their kids to find love.

656
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,640
Danielle Robay: Do you think that our perception of love has changed.

657
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Danielle Robay: Do you see it differently within your daughters? And I

658
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,719
Danielle Robay: know you just mentioned that they feel whole, but do

659
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,480
Danielle Robay: you see how they go about things? Is it different

660
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,120
Danielle Robay: than you did?

661
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,920
Danielle Robay: Well, that aspect is certainly different because I was always

662
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,440
Danielle Robay: looking constantly, So it's great that they're not all the time.

663
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,759
Danielle Robay: That's good. I don't know, maybe, I certainly think. I mean,

664
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Danielle Robay: the other thing that's really changed attitudes to love, obviously

665
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,680
Danielle Robay: is the whole internet thing that now it seems it's

666
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,640
Danielle Robay: kind of a bit uncool to ask somebody out just

667
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,080
Danielle Robay: out of the because you don't know if they're looking,

668
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,640
Danielle Robay: because they're not on an app declaring their lookiness. But

669
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Danielle Robay: obviously I can't really speak about any of that, but

670
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,640
Danielle Robay: that is the big shift.

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Speaker 1: From when I was young and Gari, do you see

672
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: it with your friends? Are there? Do you have certain

673
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: friends who are like a little bit more obsessive about

674
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: finding love than others or do you find it truly

675
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: that it's a generational difference.

676
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:26,480
Danielle Robay: Hmmm.

677
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:33,120
Angourie Rice: I guess it changes from person to person. I think

678
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,080
Angourie Rice: I gravitate towards people in my life who make me

679
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,240
Angourie Rice: feel happy and special and excited about being a person

680
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,719
Angourie Rice: in the world, and so I think that means I'm

681
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,920
Angourie Rice: gravitating towards people who feel that way about themselves as well. Like,

682
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,560
Angourie Rice: that's something I really admire about so many of my friends,

683
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:58,719
Angourie Rice: is how how they show me independence and power and like,

684
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,520
Angourie Rice: my friends make me want to be a better person.

685
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,239
Angourie Rice: And I think that is that's linked to Yeah, this

686
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:13,520
Angourie Rice: sort of strength in independence and better this for yourself

687
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,239
Angourie Rice: and your community. I think that's the other things. It's

688
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,279
Angourie Rice: I feel really empowered by my friends to sort of

689
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,600
Angourie Rice: create a strong sense of community and that if I

690
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,759
Angourie Rice: don't need anything, I just can ask.

691
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,880
Danielle Robay: Yeah, that's really beautiful at your age. I don't know

692
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Danielle Robay: that I felt like that until I was in my

693
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,040
Danielle Robay: thirties with my girlfriends. So I think that's pretty cool.

694
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Danielle Robay: Will the two of you be writing another book together?

695
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:53,879
Angourie Rice: Yes?

696
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,399
Danielle Robay: You know what's funny? Is Kate not at a quick yes,

697
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,280
Danielle Robay: and I didn't hear anything from Angourie.

698
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:06,440
Angourie Rice: Yes, Yes, the answer is yes. I always get I'm

699
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:11,440
Angourie Rice: always like thinking about the thing after that, so yes,

700
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,080
Angourie Rice: absolutely and also maybe yes again but not sure but.

701
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,799
Danielle Robay: Yes cool, So yes times two potentially.

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00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,920
Kate Rice: Well we do. Yes, there is one very much in

703
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,760
Kate Rice: the works, and then there's another one that we're still kind.

704
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,239
Angourie Rice: Of yeah, but as per our rule, we cannot say

705
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,680
Angourie Rice: anything until it's done.

706
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,799
Danielle Robay: You know what, I'm not going to fight you on that.

707
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,040
Danielle Robay: That's totally fair, and I leve a full circle moment

708
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,000
Danielle Robay: in an interview, so I'll take it. I do have

709
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,800
Danielle Robay: one question about it, which is is it a classic retelling? Again?

710
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,040
Danielle Robay: Is there a story you would want to adapt or

711
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,800
Danielle Robay: is it an original work?

712
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,480
Kate Rice: Well, there is another classic that I do want to adapt,

713
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,160
Kate Rice: but with Angourie, no, we're doing new things.

714
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,960
Angourie Rice: Yes much also for young for young readers, or a

715
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,520
Angourie Rice: sort of yeah, this similar audience to Stuck up and Stupid,

716
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,080
Angourie Rice: but different story, different world.

717
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Danielle Robay: I love asking our guests what they've bookmarked this week.

718
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Danielle Robay: It could be a weird fact, a fun quote, something

719
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,200
Danielle Robay: you've saved on Instagram, something you texted your best friend about.

720
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,080
Danielle Robay: What have each of you bookmarked?

721
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Angourie Rice: Well? I have this book that I just finished called

722
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,000
Angourie Rice: Saplings by Noel Stretfield, and I have been bookmarking this

723
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,800
Angourie Rice: a lot and I just finished it last night. Because

724
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,719
Angourie Rice: there are so many fabulous terms of phrase in here, like,

725
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,279
Angourie Rice: for example, this, I feel this is an occasion for

726
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Angourie Rice: masterly inactivity. Just kind of loved that, Like, what an

727
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,040
Angourie Rice: elegant way of saying, leave it alone, don't do anything.

728
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,120
Angourie Rice: I also liked this one. Missus Oliver and her relations

729
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,600
Angourie Rice: seemed to exist on the spin of a coin. I

730
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,239
Angourie Rice: really liked that everything that happened to them was caused

731
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,720
Angourie Rice: by passing under ladders, meeting black cats, tripping over dropped nails,

732
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,759
Angourie Rice: and the arrangement of tea leaves in their teacups. I

733
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,359
Angourie Rice: love that idea that if your life is dictated by luck,

734
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,840
Angourie Rice: you're living on the on the spin of a coin.

735
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Angourie Rice: But yeah, this is a book from nineteen forty five.

736
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Angourie Rice: Nol Stretfield wrote Ballet Shoes, which was a classic I

737
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,200
Angourie Rice: read and loved growing up. It's about a family who

738
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,200
Angourie Rice: is dealing with the fallout of World War Two and

739
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,880
Angourie Rice: sort of how that changes a family in England. And

740
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,000
Angourie Rice: it was published just towards the end of World War two,

741
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,200
Angourie Rice: so when she was writing this she didn't know when

742
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,640
Angourie Rice: the war would end. So it's a really interesting perspective

743
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,359
Angourie Rice: on children dealing with the war. So that's my book

744
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:43,839
Angourie Rice: mark thing.

745
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,759
Danielle Robay: Oh, Angourie, that could be one of the best ones

746
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,600
Danielle Robay: we've had. That is so good and I loved I

747
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,360
Danielle Robay: love that turn of phrase too. It is it feels

748
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,200
Danielle Robay: so precise. Yes.

749
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,480
Angourie Rice: Yes, there were a lot of things in this book

750
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,520
Angourie Rice: that I loved, and I like collecting sentences like that

751
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,760
Angourie Rice: and writing them down and not copying them or stealing

752
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,520
Angourie Rice: them hopefully ever, but just sort of just that creativity

753
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,680
Angourie Rice: of thinking about something in a new way.

754
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,520
Danielle Robay: Yeah. Do you write them in your phone or do

755
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,320
Danielle Robay: you have a notebook?

756
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,520
Angourie Rice: I have a little Yeah, I have a little notebook

757
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,879
Angourie Rice: that I am writing my writing quotes down in.

758
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,560
Kate Rice: I have mine here. This is my folder of quotes.

759
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Danielle Robay: Oh, Kate, okay, let us know what have you bookmarked.

760
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,680
Kate Rice: When I read a book. Don't tell my librarians from

761
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,440
Kate Rice: high school or primary school, but I do, dog-ear them.

762
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,799
Kate Rice: I literally book mark the pages where I find things

763
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,960
Kate Rice: that I love, and then I cook them and I

764
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,279
Kate Rice: put them in here in alphabetical order so that you

765
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,080
Kate Rice: can find them.

766
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,319
Kate Rice: But the ones in alphabetical order, how do you even

767
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:53,960
Kate Rice: organize that?

768
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,280
Angourie Rice: Yeah? Alphabetical order of the author?

769
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:03,719
Kate Rice: My author? Yes, so. My favorite most recent ones are

770
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,880
Kate Rice: from My Friends by Frederick Bachman, which is out now.

771
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,279
Kate Rice: All about art. Great art is a small break from

772
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,480
Kate Rice: human despair, and art helped me cope because art is

773
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,239
Kate Rice: a fragile magic, just like love. And that's humanity's only

774
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,000
Kate Rice: defense against death. That we create and paint and dance

775
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,200
Kate Rice: and fall in love. That's our rebellion against eternity.

776
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,160
Angourie Rice: Do you know? I also read that book and I

777
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,879
Angourie Rice: wrote that quote down in my book too.

778
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,920
Danielle Robay: That's so cute, Like mother like daughter. Why did it

779
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,719
Danielle Robay: strike both of you?

780
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,480
Kate Rice: I mean, for me, art is a bit like a religion.

781
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,920
Kate Rice: Art is what gives my life meaning in many ways.

782
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:53,359
Kate Rice: It's how I process everything and makes it more than

783
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,040
Kate Rice: just you know, waking up and getting through the day.

784
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,000
Kate Rice: It connects us, It connects us to each other, and

785
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,600
Kate Rice: it connects us to thing bigger than ourselves. So art

786
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,480
Kate Rice: is everything for me, and to have it explained so

787
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:12,680
Kate Rice: beautifully in such a short, beautiful sense, yeah.

788
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,759
Angourie Rice: I think also for me art like it functions on

789
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,520
Angourie Rice: so many levels. It can be as simple as if

790
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:28,040
Angourie Rice: I feel in my head and sad about anything, Art

791
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Angourie Rice: is the best way to sort of get outside of yourself,

792
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,719
Angourie Rice: to create is to It's sort of like gratitude is

793
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,920
Angourie Rice: the best killer of jealousy or despair. It sort of

794
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,640
Angourie Rice: functions in that same way for me, And then it

795
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,680
Angourie Rice: can also be as grand as like art is what

796
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,680
Angourie Rice: we leave behind, like that's our legacy when we think

797
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,959
Angourie Rice: about how we connect to how we connect to people

798
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,719
Angourie Rice: in the early eighteen hundreds where reading Jane Austen, that

799
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,239
Angourie Rice: is how we are connecting to people through history, and

800
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,480
Angourie Rice: so it feels so big in that sense.

801
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,160
Danielle Robay: What was it like to grow up with a mom

802
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,359
Danielle Robay: who has such reverence for art?

803
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:12,680
Angourie Rice: It was amazing. I mean, I feel so fortunate for

804
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,800
Angourie Rice: so many things. Like if I were to pinpoint something

805
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:22,239
Angourie Rice: that I think illustrates how I grew up, maybe, or like, oh,

806
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,520
Angourie Rice: now you're worried, now you're nervous, don't be worried, don't

807
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,759
Angourie Rice: be worried. So I grew up with a lot of

808
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,840
Angourie Rice: books in the house. We have an amazing bookshelf, and

809
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,960
Angourie Rice: my parents would read to me, and they each had

810
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,560
Angourie Rice: their own stories that they liked reading. So my dad

811
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,240
Angourie Rice: liked reading us more sort of adventure stories and stories

812
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,120
Angourie Rice: from his childhood about animals going on adventures, and that

813
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,120
Angourie Rice: was fun. I mean, Kate had some favorites as well.

814
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,120
Angourie Rice: But I remember I remember Kate reading us The Happy Prince,

815
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,759
Angourie Rice: which is a short story by Oscar Wilde, And she's

816
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,799
Angourie Rice: laughing now because she does what I was about to say.

817
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Angourie Rice: But Kate can't read that book without crying. So I

818
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,320
Angourie Rice: remember listening to this story as a kid and being

819
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,640
Angourie Rice: so moved by it because it's a really sad story,

820
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,200
Angourie Rice: and also my mum being moved by it and crying

821
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:25,239
Angourie Rice: and sort of just seeing that connection between like what

822
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,439
Angourie Rice: stories can make you feel and what they're thought. They're

823
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,239
Angourie Rice: there to make you empathize, They're they're to make you

824
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,160
Angourie Rice: connect with the world, and yeah, just showing emotion and

825
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,719
Angourie Rice: response to art is natural and a beautiful, wonderful thing.

826
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,680
Angourie Rice: Is that a good story about you?

827
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,480
Kate Rice: That's beautiful, that's beautiful. I thought you were going to

828
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,000
Kate Rice: say something along the lines of you know that I

829
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,880
Kate Rice: wouldn't let you have my little pony stories because I

830
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,440
Kate Rice: would say it's merchandise.

831
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,799
Angourie Rice: It's not. I love.

832
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,880
Danielle Robay: That's a difference, Kate, there is I do.

833
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,319
Angourie Rice: I do remember, and I think this is this is

834
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,480
Angourie Rice: actually very clever, and now I appreciate it. I remember

835
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,080
Angourie Rice: you saying I'm not going to get you much because

836
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,919
Angourie Rice: then you become free advertising for whatever thing you love.

837
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,280
Angourie Rice: And I think that's very that's very smart.

838
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,400
Danielle Robay: It is. I really really appreciate and admire your reverence

839
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,920
Danielle Robay: for art, both of you, So thank you for creating

840
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,719
Danielle Robay: it and thanks for sharing some of your art with

841
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,560
Danielle Robay: me today. Okay, Well, we're going to end on something fun,

842
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,839
Danielle Robay: which is called speed read. Here's how it works. We

843
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,200
Danielle Robay: put one hundred and twenty seconds on the clock, sixty

844
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,279
Danielle Robay: seconds for each of you, and we're going to see

845
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,640
Danielle Robay: just how many rapid fire literary questions you can get through.

846
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,399
Danielle Robay: So I'm going to do it popcorn style. Kate, I'll

847
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,799
Danielle Robay: ask you a question, and then Angari, I'll ask you

848
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,880
Danielle Robay: the question. Are you ready?

849
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,240
Angourie Rice: Yes? Yes?

850
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:56,960
Danielle Robay: Okay?

851
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:57,640
Danielle Robay: Three?

852
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,239
Angourie Rice: Two?

853
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: One? Kate, what's one literary trope you would ban forever?

854
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,160
Kate Rice: She led out a breath that she didn't know she

855
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:07,720
Kate Rice: was holding.

856
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,400
Danielle Robay: Nixt Angourie.

857
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,160
Danielle Robay: One that you'll defend with your life.

858
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,560
Angourie Rice: Enemies to lovers always.

859
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,360
Danielle Robay: Agreed, Kate. What's a book that you wish you had written?

860
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,560
Kate Rice: Fortunes of Richard Marney by Henry Handel Richardson Angourie.

861
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,320
Danielle Robay: What is your favorite book to recommend?

862
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,480
Angourie Rice: Ooh, I love recommending depends what it's for, but I

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Angourie Rice: love recommending Station eleven by Emily St. John Mandel because

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Angourie Rice: it's about a pandemic, but it's also about art and

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Angourie Rice: the resistance of art.

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Danielle Robay: Ooh, I have to read that Okay, your favorite page

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Danielle Robay: to screen adaptation Kate.

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Kate Rice: Oh nineteen ninety four Pride and Prejudice, Angourie.

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Angourie Rice: How about you that I would say the same, But

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Angourie Rice: I also love Clueless as an adaptation of Emma by

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Angourie Rice: Jane Austen.

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Danielle Robay: Okay, what is your favorite Jane Austen work.

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Kate Rice: Pride and Prejudice and also Emma Hungary.

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Danielle Robay: How about you the same, Kate. What book do you

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Danielle Robay: wish you could read for the first.

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Kate Rice: Time again alone in Berlin by Hans Falada Hungary.

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Angourie Rice: Which fictional character do you secretly think you're most like Emma?

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Angourie Rice: Emma from Emma by Jane Austen Unfortunately if you've read it. Yeah, yes, unfortunately, Kate.

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Danielle Robay: If you could vicariously live through one fictional character, who

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Danielle Robay: would that be?

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Kate Rice: Oh, Elizabeth Bennett once she becomes missus Darcy, She's got

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Kate Rice: a good.

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Danielle Robay: Life, Angourie. Last question, what book shaped the way you

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Danielle Robay: see the world? Oh?

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Angourie Rice: My gosh, every book, every book I've ever read. Is

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Angourie Rice: that an answer?

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Danielle Robay: No, it's true, that is an answer. I love it. Guys.

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Danielle Robay: This was really fun.

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Danielle Robay: Thank you for this, but thank you so much. Thank

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Danielle Robay: you so much guys for having us. This is lovely.

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Kate Rice: Yes, thank you thank you.

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