Speaker 1: Pushkin. What are you doing? I'm shaving my chin hears.
Speaker 1: What is that thing? It looks like a little magic
Speaker 1: marker for princesses. It's like supposed to be used for
Speaker 1: bikini shaving. There was shape. I didn't know that women
Speaker 1: had those. We have a lot of secrets, man, We
Speaker 1: got a lot of tools in the tool belt. That's
Speaker 1: a tool for below the tool belt. I'm got in
Speaker 1: my case because when when I go out of my house,
Speaker 1: I can actually see my chin hairs in a better
Speaker 1: mirror than the one I have in my house. And
Speaker 1: I'll hit up a hotel and I'll turn on the
Speaker 1: magnified mirror and be like, oh, there's the forest of hairs,
Speaker 1: and I'll shave them all. This is the unvarnished travel show.
Speaker 1: I haven't wear makeup, but I will shave a chin here.
Speaker 1: This is not Lost Look Amazing only wears overalls and jumpsuits.
Speaker 1: Now the travel show about going places, define yourself. Each week,
Speaker 1: a friend and I go to a new place and
Speaker 1: try to get invited to someone's house for dinner. I
Speaker 1: feel like you were the turtle back on part. That's
Speaker 1: been my signature mood. I'm Brendan Francis Newnham are somehow
Speaker 1: and that's my friend Daniel Henderson as there's no boots. Man.
Speaker 1: We've just met up at Trudeau Airport. Staring at the
Speaker 1: people coming out of the plane. They look Canadian. I
Speaker 1: think they would just look like us, but they don't.
Speaker 1: They look better. They look like they have healthcare. Episode
Speaker 1: one Montreal, we're gonna I think calves are this way?
Speaker 1: See that? Oh my god, freezing. Why did we come
Speaker 1: to Montreal in the dead of winter. Well, because most
Speaker 1: travel shows would come here in Springer's fall. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you're talking to someone who flew in from Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I have a bag with my Burgenstocks handles in it
Speaker 1: because that's what I was wearing this morning. But I
Speaker 1: wanted like authentic Montreal man, Like I think, like this
Speaker 1: what separates the Canadian wheat from the Canadian chap. So
Speaker 1: we need to establish on this ride that your TV writer,
Speaker 1: I am a like audio journalist person and we're both single.
Speaker 1: We're on the wrong set of thirty five. We're looking
Speaker 1: for connection, creative meaning a hand to hold in this mad,
Speaker 1: mad world. My only plan was to get on a
Speaker 1: plane and show up. It's rad to see you, and
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have fun. So basically I need
Speaker 1: to do this travel pod thing. We also have some
Speaker 1: people were going to meet, very excited, and I would
Speaker 1: like to hopefully insinuate herself into someone's home to have dinner,
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's the real way to meet them.
Speaker 1: When you say it like that, I can't imagine anyone
Speaker 1: else turning, anyone turning us down. I'd like to insinuate
Speaker 1: myself into your hole. Um, I'm gonna switch Mike's, so
Speaker 1: don't say anything interesting. Where are you all from? Okay?
Speaker 1: I'm from New York. Okay. So that there is the
Speaker 1: Olympic Stadium. Yeah, and you will see we are actually
Speaker 1: on an island, which is uh, you know, butch all
Speaker 1: is cool because we you know, we we are like
Speaker 1: Americans without the baggage. We can watch and look kind
Speaker 1: of laugh because we're across the border, but we're the same.
Speaker 1: Like you might even think I'm from Jersey. I thought
Speaker 1: you were from Jersey. What I mean, that's what an
Speaker 1: anglophone Quebecer sounds like. Can you say quintessential Quebecer anglophone sentence?
Speaker 1: All right, let's go get some put in Oh you
Speaker 1: try or smoked meat? All right? Did you get some
Speaker 1: bagels yet? Yeah? What about what about of you're just
Speaker 1: talking to your family or friends on a Sunday. Well,
Speaker 1: since I have three teenagers, I don't talk much to
Speaker 1: them because they're they're teenagers. But here you'll notice all
Speaker 1: the signs that we have around. They're all French. But
Speaker 1: if you notice, there will be some participate in English.
Speaker 1: But they have to be. This is a law. A
Speaker 1: third of the size. We've got the office d lallon
Speaker 1: fan the French police. Yeah, go around and go into
Speaker 1: your establishment and measure your sign and make sure you're
Speaker 1: comfort Oh yeah, we've we've tried to seceed from Canada.
Speaker 1: What time it was real close? I was like, I
Speaker 1: think forty nine fifty one. It was like every all
Speaker 1: the the head offices and companies just up and left,
Speaker 1: and the wealth left, and so what remained was nice, beautiful,
Speaker 1: easy to live, lovable Montreal. This is it. My tour
Speaker 1: has had the car. I don't, but I'm uber, Daryl,
Speaker 1: I thank you. Watch yourself in the eyes. You're welcome
Speaker 1: to grab my arm here for these icy regions. Here's
Speaker 1: where it gets treacherous, though, because now it's snow on
Speaker 1: top of ice. I think you just have to walk
Speaker 1: like an old person your entire walk. I just want
Speaker 1: to point out that a small child ran past us
Speaker 1: like she was just walking on grass, just fully ran
Speaker 1: past us while we take our old bones down this street.
Speaker 1: In my high school yearbook caption, I wrote a message
Speaker 1: to my unrequited crush. It said, dear E, our artists
Speaker 1: loft in Canada waits. I'd never even been to Canada
Speaker 1: or a loft, but somehow I'd gotten this idea that
Speaker 1: it was a place for culture, romance, an affordable real estate,
Speaker 1: three things I still long for. He's married now with
Speaker 1: two kids, but at least I made it to Canada.
Speaker 1: I'll be it in the dead of winter with my friend.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there's a cat cafe ten feet from
Speaker 1: our door. That's insane. Danielle and I drop off our
Speaker 1: bags and head to the Museum of Fine Arts. As
Speaker 1: good a place as I need to learn about Montreal's
Speaker 1: creative roots. So it was a city where it was
Speaker 1: like much more important to be a sculptor than a doctor.
Speaker 1: That is really cool, whatever that is. They saw it
Speaker 1: last time I was here. My name is Heather O'Neill,
Speaker 1: and I'm a local Montreal author. These look kind of
Speaker 1: like Jacometti's a little bit right, yeah, like with the
Speaker 1: skinny elongated limbs. This is Louis Arschambau. He has sculptures
Speaker 1: and parks too. I believe this is like such a style.
Speaker 1: I always liked it, but my dad would try and
Speaker 1: show me like this is crap. I love the idea
Speaker 1: of been bringing you to all these works of public
Speaker 1: art just to point out how horrible they are, terrible
Speaker 1: phony fony. So we're making our way into the Quebec
Speaker 1: Arts Pavilion. You're not a historian. You're not responsible to
Speaker 1: explain all this to us. If you read anything you
Speaker 1: encounter the Quiet Revolution? Is there a way to summarize
Speaker 1: that pretty quickly? The kind of what that was? All? Right? Here,
Speaker 1: I go, okay, we'll just go to the sixties when
Speaker 1: it started all the sort of good jobs in Montreal,
Speaker 1: and all the executive jobs were held by English speaking people,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the companies were they were all
Speaker 1: owned by anglophones and they would only give English speaking
Speaker 1: citizens the jobs. And then what happened was there began
Speaker 1: to be a cultural movement where they decided we're just
Speaker 1: going to overthrow this predicament we're in so French class. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the lower class Francophones were like, this is just enough.
Speaker 1: One of the big movements was they made education all
Speaker 1: the universities free, So you ended up with this like
Speaker 1: massive class of young people who came from working class
Speaker 1: backgrounds but were incredibly educated and so obviously that created
Speaker 1: like radical thinking. So we're in this permanent exhibit called
Speaker 1: the Age of the Manifesto. Do you recognize any of
Speaker 1: these Oh, yeah, this is real pal who Yeah, is
Speaker 1: sort of our Jackson Pollock. He's incredibly well regarded in Quebec.
Speaker 1: Even someone myself came from as lower class as you
Speaker 1: get in the city, I still went to McGill University
Speaker 1: and had like a top rate education and then was,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of thrown back on the street corner.
Speaker 1: I was like, what do I do? I've just read
Speaker 1: a lot of Henry James. So there's this kind of
Speaker 1: irony and there's a humor when you're able to suddenly
Speaker 1: talk about your odd, down and out predicament, but in
Speaker 1: the language of m and so then it becomes everything
Speaker 1: kind of becomes like tongue in cheek an absurd and
Speaker 1: you kind of have this like Beckett, like feeling well,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for meeting us today. That's what's what's
Speaker 1: going on tonight? What are you up to? Oh um?
Speaker 1: I have like a deadline. I'm asking because we're kind
Speaker 1: of trying to get invited to a dinner party, because
Speaker 1: it's a place where you can genuinely get to know
Speaker 1: people instead of just being tourists. You know, I would
Speaker 1: love that, but I have like a Chihuahua who is
Speaker 1: aggressive towards the stranger dogs, but it would just over
Speaker 1: overwhelm him. I think, Okay, I'm sorry, like it seems rude.
Speaker 1: I know everyone Canadians are nice, but apparently they're no.
Speaker 1: But if you bring people by dogs going to bite someone, okay,
Speaker 1: that would not be a good outcome. But you have
Speaker 1: healthcare for those people. What is your dog's name, Hamlet.
Speaker 1: I don't spend as much time thinking about how I'm
Speaker 1: going to die alone when I'm traveling, but I get
Speaker 1: to travel with someone I love. Oh see, I love
Speaker 1: you too, and also we get to eat as much
Speaker 1: everything there. I love you too. Mine's a lot of
Speaker 1: therapy bills behind that you're so white. I love it.
Speaker 1: It's nice. It's nice to kind of it is nice
Speaker 1: to travel with. Buddy. This is Arion Saint Laurent. Thank you.
Speaker 1: When my last radio show ended fairly abruptly, I was
Speaker 1: a little concerned about your mental health. Yeah I was.
Speaker 1: I was a little bit lost. You know. I went
Speaker 1: from having this rad show where I spoke with Nilde
Speaker 1: Grass Tyson and Scarlett Johansson to my Deli guy being
Speaker 1: the only person I spoke to on any given day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now at this show, trying to get myself back
Speaker 1: out there, Dude, isn't exciting. Let's play a game, like,
Speaker 1: let's just name what comes to mind when we think
Speaker 1: of Montreal. I definitely think of poutine, of course, Letter Cohen,
Speaker 1: I think you guys, they're everywhere. There is just that
Speaker 1: kind of French like undercount where you're like, la la,
Speaker 1: What is this like an eighties perfume commercial? Please never
Speaker 1: say that to a woman here. I want her to
Speaker 1: say it to me. I can never remember who founded Montreal,
Speaker 1: whether it was Samuel de Champlain or Jacquet, but what
Speaker 1: a fucking idiot like I mean, we're only a six
Speaker 1: hour drive from New York that's comedian writer actress Trana Winter.
Speaker 1: We're at a restaurant called Lawrence, which is a fitting name.
Speaker 1: If this place was a human, it'd be that fancy
Speaker 1: kid who dresses like a carefree hemian Lawrence. I try
Speaker 1: and fail to tuck a napkin into my cashmere turtleneck.
Speaker 1: Montreal winters are not glamorous. It's really hard to be glamorous.
Speaker 1: Sorry to be glamorous, like crampons on your boots. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: here we go, let's cheers. What do you say, salteea?
Speaker 1: But I love living here. Yeah. Here. It's the last
Speaker 1: remaining affordable North American metropolis. Um. I live in a
Speaker 1: one bedroom apartment like smack in the middle of everything,
Speaker 1: and it's six hundred dollars a month six hundred Canadian
Speaker 1: so that's like four eighty Americans. Yeah. The other thing
Speaker 1: that I love about it is just there's just this
Speaker 1: sexy vibe and Montreal this pulse, this energy. But I
Speaker 1: don't fully know how to articulate, but it's here. I've
Speaker 1: been hornys it's the minute I live. There is this
Speaker 1: sensuality to it, There is this kind of verve, and
Speaker 1: I don't I just think like, oh, it's European, which
Speaker 1: is my catchall term for any kind of these. That's
Speaker 1: part of it. I think part of it too is
Speaker 1: just it is a diverse city, you know, but I
Speaker 1: don't think that's special anymore. That's sort of seems to
Speaker 1: is that when I travel alone as a black woman,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's something that I notice right away
Speaker 1: if I feel comfortable or not right, and there are
Speaker 1: still some places where I just don't right for sure
Speaker 1: at all. Thank you on top you have a little
Speaker 1: salad of fresh hurricane Billy gals and coins. That's my
Speaker 1: renated enjoying thank you just looks so good. Well, the
Speaker 1: things that I like about it, though, I feel like
Speaker 1: you're trying here, Like there's a cultural identity that people
Speaker 1: are not willing to just roll over and let things happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true, especially on the French side. French side is
Speaker 1: very much about protecting their culture. Actually just started to
Speaker 1: do comedy in French because I am bilingual. Is there
Speaker 1: different things that French people find funny? In Quebec Actually
Speaker 1: there's something called Le Calm, which is comedy school. Basically. Okay,
Speaker 1: like nine percent of French or Francophone comedians in Quebec
Speaker 1: have gone through this school class one is like did
Speaker 1: you ever notice, right, yeah, freshman year, and so there
Speaker 1: is kind of like this uniformity in terms of comedy style.
Speaker 1: So also out of necessity, there is this Quebec star system,
Speaker 1: like Quebec has its own Hollywood that doesn't exist anywhere
Speaker 1: else because it can't exist anywhere else, it doesn't translate.
Speaker 1: But now that I've started performing in French, it's like,
Speaker 1: that's become my new dream. You're gonna be a part of,
Speaker 1: like the Quebec Star system. I'm like that. My dream
Speaker 1: has always been to make it just so I can
Speaker 1: be a hasban. What's it called if you never did
Speaker 1: anything to be washed up? I never was, like I
Speaker 1: never Yeah, you're not as you're never gu So I
Speaker 1: got divorced five years ago and I met my ex
Speaker 1: husband on an internet comic book forum in the late nineties. Wow,
Speaker 1: and he was like my best friend and he was
Speaker 1: part of my memory and my heart and I lost
Speaker 1: that and I lost all of my confidence. I have
Speaker 1: not been on a date or been in a relationship
Speaker 1: since then. I've had sex once, no, twice twice in
Speaker 1: the past four years. Oh really, Yeah, it's been very
Speaker 1: difficult to admit to myself that, like I'm interested now
Speaker 1: in being with someone in a real way again, like
Speaker 1: sharing my life with them. You're afraid to be We
Speaker 1: think we all are vulnerable. Yeah, I don't have too vulnerability.
Speaker 1: I've known you for a while and we've pooped around
Speaker 1: and traveled a lot, like you do have an appetite
Speaker 1: for just like some freewheel and love through. I was
Speaker 1: sad a lot whatever Jim Hudson in the seventies. Why
Speaker 1: do you want to get laid? But also you're such
Speaker 1: a I don't know, you have such a nurturing instinct
Speaker 1: and you're you're I hear you're one. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not there now of that instinct because I don't
Speaker 1: want to take care of man. And it sucks that
Speaker 1: the result of that is that I might have to
Speaker 1: be alone because that bob is the thought of being
Speaker 1: alone bother you though, no me either. It doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: It's only like when I want to get late and
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know how people do it. It
Speaker 1: bothers me. It bothers me, it does yeah, um super
Speaker 1: in the cuddling, I like I like I like cooking
Speaker 1: breakfast half naked like that, I would really take care
Speaker 1: of my like, nah, huddling affection. No, how's your drink.
Speaker 1: That's great, got some gin and some lime and some booze.
Speaker 1: It's good. It looks like I got colder outside in
Speaker 1: the time we were eating. I'm a little scared. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know Montreal, like even in like the most
Speaker 1: insane winter weather, you can always count on one asshole
Speaker 1: to be on their bike, still going. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: in a blizzard, in a blizzard in the weather, let's
Speaker 1: be career street sweepers here, Like there's so much snow
Speaker 1: so long. Absolutely, and as a warning before the plows come,
Speaker 1: they have these toe chucks driving around blaring this insane siren.
Speaker 1: Oh it's not a cop siren, it's not a fire truck,
Speaker 1: it's its own unit. It's a plows Far the fuck
Speaker 1: out of your siren. So what are you doing this weekend?
Speaker 1: What are the plans? Um? I mean, my weekends are
Speaker 1: always kind of up in the air. I'm as you know,
Speaker 1: I'm very noncommittal a party to go to. You're looking
Speaker 1: for a dinner party? I mean, I like you guys,
Speaker 1: Let's play it by ear. Is that the name of
Speaker 1: your next comedy album? Maybe? Maybe? Yeah? Oh for two
Speaker 1: in our dinner party search, or rather point five for
Speaker 1: two since China did say maybe. Back at our lodgings,
Speaker 1: we brush our teeth, tuck ourselves in, and uploads like
Speaker 1: photos to Instagram. Eventually I drift off to sleep with
Speaker 1: dreams of six hundred dollars rent going through my head.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, let's get coffee. Whoa that is a style.
Speaker 1: Guy's got like a slicked back, moosed ponytail. I mean
Speaker 1: it is morning, and I'm surprisingly still horny for a
Speaker 1: rontreal mosaba suble years. All right, you show me up.
Speaker 1: You speak French, I don't May I have one of
Speaker 1: these with the feta. Yeah, Rusty and I will have
Speaker 1: a latte in your largest to go cup. So today
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the Jean to Lawn market, this
Speaker 1: food market with this woman Massam who's a food blogger,
Speaker 1: because you know, we gotta get our food for one
Speaker 1: one gotta get it some snacks. But I was thinking
Speaker 1: to get started, we should go to Leonard Cohen's home
Speaker 1: because he's this city's like favorite son. Is it a
Speaker 1: museum now or that he's dead or is it just
Speaker 1: his house. It's not a museum, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: I'm not even one hundred percent positive where it is.
Speaker 1: It's like, I know it's on this park to Portugal.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think there might be a
Speaker 1: clue for me up there. Yeah. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to go with your heart, go where your heart leads you.
Speaker 1: My heart is leading me to get a massage on
Speaker 1: a boat, really, because I think it gets you into
Speaker 1: the spirit of well, I don't know. I was gonna
Speaker 1: bullshit something about how it gets you into the spirit
Speaker 1: of the city, but it's just entirely selfish and I
Speaker 1: like feeling good. All right, Well, I'm just gonna take off.
Speaker 1: I guess I feel weird abandoning you at this stage
Speaker 1: of the game. Look, we're both adults. I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you go stand outside, let her Cohen's house like a creep,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go get a massage, all right, Helena,
Speaker 1: how goes? And if you get arrested, I'll bail you out.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Excuse me, I'm looking for Leonard Cohen's house.
Speaker 1: A Cohen I'm looking for. Excuse me? Is it your
Speaker 1: first time here? Wonderful, well, welcome, very excited to see
Speaker 1: what a spa on a river has to offer. And
Speaker 1: it's so wonderful. I think it's like parked to Portugal
Speaker 1: or something. Oh yeah, you just have to like keep
Speaker 1: walking a little bit, turned right and up a few
Speaker 1: blocks and me get all right. But there's not like
Speaker 1: a sign or anything that says that's where I used
Speaker 1: to live. No, no, no, okay, it's fucking freezing out here.
Speaker 1: This is one of our saunas Lord of ceiling windows.
Speaker 1: Looking over the port. This is unreal jacouzy hot tubs
Speaker 1: we call them ba. I cannot get over this. And
Speaker 1: this is filled with eucalyptus. Normally I want to live
Speaker 1: in this. You're gonna head down to the first stack,
Speaker 1: can go for your musage. I'm ready. You're in the bathtub.
Speaker 1: Ah fuck, Oh my goodness. You're a very gentle touch.
Speaker 1: I'm going through the scar tissue, because we have scar
Speaker 1: tissue that builds up in muscles that are oversolicited. You
Speaker 1: use your body in different ways in such a treme
Speaker 1: tempers and so I'm wondering if that contributes to you
Speaker 1: seeing certain types of ailments are over and over again,
Speaker 1: or what I see a lot of is definitely low
Speaker 1: back and more low back tension which crawls up front
Speaker 1: because we're huddled, you know, we're trying to keep ourselves warm,
Speaker 1: We're trying to keep centered so that we can navigate
Speaker 1: the ice and the snow and the slush and the
Speaker 1: puddles and the roads. It's really the march of the
Speaker 1: penguins in the winter here, I mean, and you you're
Speaker 1: going to see that today, and your guys are going
Speaker 1: to giggle to yourselves and you say, yeah, there's the penguins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see them, you know. And it's because we're so
Speaker 1: afraid to fall like a bird on the wire, like
Speaker 1: a drunk in the mid night choir. I have tried
Speaker 1: in my way to be free. Thank you. Well, this
Speaker 1: is it? Just a gray Stone one two three triplex,
Speaker 1: pretty non the script, you know, he's sang about religion
Speaker 1: and sex and poets and history, and it's weird just
Speaker 1: to see a gray house on a little park with
Speaker 1: a Honda Civic parked out front of it. I'm not
Speaker 1: really sure why I thought it was so important to
Speaker 1: come here. All right, it's icy, it's cold, and I
Speaker 1: think that's the bigel place he would go to. It's
Speaker 1: kind of strange to realize how powerful and healing touch
Speaker 1: can be because I don't I don't date, I don't
Speaker 1: kind of like engage in that way anymore. And so
Speaker 1: I was alone for thirteen years after my divorce and
Speaker 1: I met I met someone. What I came to understand
Speaker 1: about myself is what stops me from dating is how
Speaker 1: well can I hide my wounds? Right? So, my you know,
Speaker 1: current partner and I we decided are the philosophy of
Speaker 1: our relationship is no masks, full disclosure. So I think
Speaker 1: it's about really deciding to have to have that level
Speaker 1: of honesty within yourself and the trusting. But when you've
Speaker 1: had trauma, trust is so fragile. Yeah. So, so one
Speaker 1: of my my big trauma is that my mom left.
Speaker 1: She she dropped us off at my grandparents' house for
Speaker 1: a weekend and then never came back. And the person
Speaker 1: who's supposed to love you and conditionally leaves, and that
Speaker 1: will mess you up well because you're gonna always asking
Speaker 1: yourself what did I do wrong? Right? And will I
Speaker 1: do something wrong again? But what will I do to
Speaker 1: make someone leave? Because the assumption is that somebody will
Speaker 1: always leave a lot of tension in your calves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you spoke of your herniated disks so often warm
Speaker 1: that up for you. So when you go out and
Speaker 1: do the March of the Penguins, you feel a little
Speaker 1: more ease in your body. Thank you, Lujenie. What are
Speaker 1: you up to this weekend? Because you know Brendon and
Speaker 1: I are in town and we're kind of looking for
Speaker 1: dinner parties. He's making me ask everyone if we can
Speaker 1: eat at their house. Basically, Oh, well, that's unfortunate. I
Speaker 1: would love to normally have to meet at my house. However,
Speaker 1: I am going on from back. Um, could I just
Speaker 1: get a what would you order? Bagel? Bagel with locks? Ye?
Speaker 1: Mercy visiting town? How do you know? I'm visiting? Guidebooks?
Speaker 1: Kind of a giveaway? Let me guess. Larry Cohen's house.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even have a plaque. I just feel like
Speaker 1: if that was in America, there would be there would
Speaker 1: be an amusement park around, like a Suzanne roller coaster,
Speaker 1: like a Leonard Wood. Yeah, they would be selling like
Speaker 1: my blue raincoats or something for toddler's right. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: a good idea an get out on that. Yeah, I'm Brendon.
Speaker 1: By the way, Brendan Francis knew, and I'm doing a
Speaker 1: travel podcast thing here. Oh okay, I'm Tim Kingsbury and
Speaker 1: I live in the neighborhood cool. I used to have
Speaker 1: this podcast you might have heard of called The Dinner
Speaker 1: Party Download. Well, I don't know that one, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was mostly America. Are you a fan
Speaker 1: of Cohen? Yeah, definitely, Like I moved here just to
Speaker 1: play music myself. Actually, so you're a musician, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah right. Uh, what kind of hole does he have on?
Speaker 1: Kind of Montreal? Like some imagination, he's everywhere. There's like
Speaker 1: a big mural downtown since he since he passed away,
Speaker 1: and everyone's got a Leonard Cohen story or he's he's
Speaker 1: he's everywhere. Do you do you have a Leonard Cohen story? Uh?
Speaker 1: I used to work at a grocery store just down
Speaker 1: the road called Warshaw and I was like a bag
Speaker 1: boy there and he came in one time and bought
Speaker 1: some bananas, just bananas. I think there were bagels too.
Speaker 1: That sounds very freudy, and actually that's what I imagined.
Speaker 1: Leonard Cohen. Yeah, no, he remember, he was he thought
Speaker 1: they were overpriced, and he was right. They were nice.
Speaker 1: Nice talking to you. I gotta get going. Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, what what's the name of the band you're in?
Speaker 1: Arcade Fire? H is? Is there anything going on tonight? Uh?
Speaker 1: I think I'm actually getting out of town and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go up north. Um. Maybe are your friends doing it? Like?
Speaker 1: Are your friends doing anything like they out? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're probably doing something there. We all thank you, thanks,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for driving us here. We're getting
Speaker 1: dropped off at the city's biggest food markets. So what
Speaker 1: should we eat there? Everything? You can't taste everything for free,
Speaker 1: in fact, and if you like it, you could buy it.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Maybe buying provisions for a dinner party will
Speaker 1: deuce a dinner party. Maybe. So nice to meet you. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm Danielle. Nice to meet you, may so. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the jan Talent Market. A lot of markets in North
Speaker 1: America these days have become sort of a tourist attraction.
Speaker 1: They sell a lot of stuff that's not really food.
Speaker 1: They sell T shirts and souvenirs and caps. Where's this market?
Speaker 1: It's just food, Although we might want to come up
Speaker 1: with the T shirt idea while we're here. And we
Speaker 1: can make some money. You can't ruin the spirit of
Speaker 1: this place. That's so American. Jean Talon, No, no paved
Speaker 1: sound delicious. I'm addicted to it. Three of these. Yeah.
Speaker 1: MBA is most famous chocolate makers in Montreas. Get a
Speaker 1: jar of chocolate sauce. We're going to make friends. The
Speaker 1: four generations of Forgers. So his mother, his grandmother, and
Speaker 1: her mother before that organic honey. And actually we're standing
Speaker 1: right in front of one of my favorite stores, Vice Store.
Speaker 1: That's for you and your white people. Vice it up,
Speaker 1: white folks, Let's do it. My Caron's with Foi gras inside.
Speaker 1: That seems like a French Stonor food. It's really really good.
Speaker 1: All right, take the whole trey with me. How about
Speaker 1: we buy something instead of you taking the sample tray?
Speaker 1: Can I do both? You have such a distinguished mark
Speaker 1: commenting on the gentleman's eye brow. Yeah, it's got a
Speaker 1: beautiful face. What are you doing later tonight? My friend
Speaker 1: is visiting. Then you have the tortier, which is a
Speaker 1: typical meatpie in Quebecca. What is the quintessential food Montreal
Speaker 1: besides poutine, bagels, besides big maple anything? All right here,
Speaker 1: we go trying she's trying a maple tart. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that is incredible. Are you kidding me? What I need here?
Speaker 1: The pets, which literally translated is nun's farts? Why did
Speaker 1: I ask? Retract exact amos? See uh hi dough with
Speaker 1: butter and brown sugar and they put um some cream
Speaker 1: on the on top before cooking it. What does that
Speaker 1: have to do with nuns? I don't know. Why do
Speaker 1: they call it? It was it was invented. It was
Speaker 1: created by nuns, like they were trying to find something
Speaker 1: to do with the leftovers. Nuns farts. That's so upsetting,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate it. I know I'm very sensitive. So Mazame,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us the market. It's
Speaker 1: been fun hanging out with you. Now we've got all
Speaker 1: these snacks. Do you want to hang out with us?
Speaker 1: To name? We throw Donna party in our honor um.
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, you and me at our Airbnb. If
Speaker 1: we don't find a dinner party, I'm going to go
Speaker 1: out to a restaurant. I mean you hit on the
Speaker 1: cheese boy, you mean he hit on them. I said,
Speaker 1: I had an interesting face, and then you're like, what
Speaker 1: do you do on tonight he was into it La la.
Speaker 1: Though It's almost four pm and Montreal's winter sun is
Speaker 1: already beginning to set, and our prospects for a dinner
Speaker 1: party are dimming as well. Back at our place, things
Speaker 1: go from labad to the worse. Daniel's back seizes up
Speaker 1: and she might have to abandon our mission altogether. As
Speaker 1: I sit at the kitchen table, nibbling on a nunfart,
Speaker 1: it strikes me it's going to take a miracle to
Speaker 1: turn things around. And where do miracles reside? Well, Mark
Speaker 1: Twain said when he visited Montreal, you couldn't throw a
Speaker 1: brick in this town without breaking a church window. I'm
Speaker 1: with Mark Elsworthy, an architecture buff who works with the
Speaker 1: local Ministry of Heritage. So right now we're in the
Speaker 1: not Cadam the Bonsacle Chapel. It's the oldest in one
Speaker 1: of the oldest churches in Montreal looked dates to the
Speaker 1: nineteenth they called the Sailors Church. And my eye is
Speaker 1: going immediately to these wonderful boats that are hanging with candles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's even a cargo ship with containers on it. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is a cargo ship. And so they have two
Speaker 1: candles in each of them, green candles, like I kind
Speaker 1: of want to. I'm not going to steal them, but
Speaker 1: I would hope not. But they feel like someone can't
Speaker 1: we instagram it and then start a shop that sells them.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel even bad taking pictures and churches. No, okay,
Speaker 1: you know a harbor town, it's considered usually a honky
Speaker 1: punk like red light district and certainly in the Prohibition.
Speaker 1: Montreal serve that role to this day, maybe with Americans.
Speaker 1: But there's so many churches. It's interesting that there's this.
Speaker 1: Caebecers are interesting. On the census, they all still fell
Speaker 1: out that they're Roman Catholic and Quebeca has the lowest
Speaker 1: church attendants in Canada. Church is really tied into identity
Speaker 1: but not practice. Yeah, don't come to the church. They
Speaker 1: may have been for grandma's funeral a while back or
Speaker 1: maybe not, or you know, but no one does baptisms.
Speaker 1: People don't get married in the church. M Are there
Speaker 1: any other facets of this chapel or that really that
Speaker 1: you're that you like or do you want to point out, well,
Speaker 1: we have to light a candle for someone, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: actually it should Okay, we could light a candle for
Speaker 1: back pain to go away. Yeah, for Danielle who's suffering
Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, good thought. There we are. There,
Speaker 1: we are a moment. I usually only light candles a
Speaker 1: romantic dinners, but here it could lead to a romantic dinner.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows they could. I just felt a pang of
Speaker 1: Catholic guilt I when I lit that candle. I did
Speaker 1: not light the candle for Danielle's back. I lit the
Speaker 1: candle because we need to find a place to eat tonight.
Speaker 1: Because the whole point of this show was for us
Speaker 1: to learn about the town, but then then get into
Speaker 1: someone's home to kind of have a true authentic experience.
Speaker 1: And so far, um, we've had a lot of people
Speaker 1: are very friendly. But when I've asked him that question,
Speaker 1: they've you know, been like, oh, well, maybe contact us later.
Speaker 1: And I promised the company paying for this, then I'm
Speaker 1: going to get into someone's home. What do you think
Speaker 1: it's Saturday night? Even if you just let us in
Speaker 1: for ten minutes, could we just after lying in church?
Speaker 1: You want to come to my house, I'll confessing to you.
Speaker 1: And that's what I wished for when I let the candle.
Speaker 1: So if there is a god, you got me on
Speaker 1: that one. Okay, Well, can I brought your phone and
Speaker 1: then I'll just call my husband? Okay, Um, I think
Speaker 1: I don't think. I love that you're paying roaming just
Speaker 1: a second. This is Penance. Hello, Um the GISTI eskirt
Speaker 1: bounskabis opa my meth playing vain. Let's okay, okay, bye?
Speaker 1: So you have to do the dishes and bring wine?
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Yeah? He's down. Well I didn't really
Speaker 1: give him much choice. Yes, thank you so much. This
Speaker 1: is amazing. Hello, come on in? Are you Mark? I
Speaker 1: am welcome? Hello? Are you should I just throw this?
Speaker 1: He thanks so much for showing you. I am trying.
Speaker 1: Have you met Louis whose beautiful house half of a
Speaker 1: couple of his? Hello, she's the place I really didn't
Speaker 1: think any one we talked to today was gonna come.
Speaker 1: I love a surprise. We're doing someone sure, triple Gemini
Speaker 1: like Highlie Minogue sculptor who who was also dating the
Speaker 1: Leonard Cohens. There are Francophone community elsewhere in Canada that
Speaker 1: we bought that the Quebec class store where Danielle hit
Speaker 1: on the cheese mon America very handsome. Everyone's handsome like
Speaker 1: you were drinking the Peanot noir right eye for me. Okay,
Speaker 1: just doesn't really get more montreal than like listening to
Speaker 1: Sleen after like a dinner party. Someone didn't pay their titles.
Speaker 1: Never leaving is what I'm learning to this podcast. Thank
Speaker 1: you for letting us loud enough. Okay, the chorus is
Speaker 1: literally just by as play as so you can both
Speaker 1: stick along already hit it rale le bas By. This
Speaker 1: should be your theme song by Where's driving? But you
Speaker 1: can walk up as well. Oh yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: a bit cold, and yeah, you gotta be caught entering.
Speaker 1: I mean we're also we're also to be fair hungover
Speaker 1: right now that that doesn't help. But this street will
Speaker 1: wind us up to the top of the mountain. And
Speaker 1: do people actually come to Mount Royal who live here
Speaker 1: love it it is? I guess would be like our
Speaker 1: central Park, but it's on a mountain. People are cross
Speaker 1: country ski yeah, show snowshoeing. We have a skating rink
Speaker 1: on the top. Now we're looking to the east side
Speaker 1: of the city, but a lookout is that way? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: be careful on the ice. Oh look at that I've
Speaker 1: never seen a snowshoe in action. Oh yeah, what a
Speaker 1: weekend like that. We did a lot. We did a lot,
Speaker 1: but we were talking about coming as we're coming into
Speaker 1: the city, kind of like our love lives and romance
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And I think I'm much more
Speaker 1: likely to fall in love with a place than I
Speaker 1: am with a person. That's interesting there, it is, there's
Speaker 1: a city that you love. We're looking at the downtown,
Speaker 1: the Saint Lawrence River. Look at Letter Cohen down there.
Speaker 1: You see him. Yeah, there's literally a mural of letter
Speaker 1: going down there. Oh my god, I thought you saw
Speaker 1: an operation when I was at that Letter Cohne house,
Speaker 1: which I honestly did meet a member of Arcade Fire.
Speaker 1: You have to believe me. I don't. But it's fine.
Speaker 1: I'll play you the tape later if you need that
Speaker 1: story to get through the weekend. That's fine being there, honestly, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I saw the house, but actually the fact
Speaker 1: that it was really not that exciting an anticlimactic in
Speaker 1: the sense that it was just someone's home. This is
Speaker 1: gonna sound corny, but obviously I've been thinking a lot
Speaker 1: about like being an artist or being more creative with
Speaker 1: my old show ending, and there's no magical properties to it,
Speaker 1: Like even Leonard Cohen just lived in a house and
Speaker 1: bought bananas, And it's more about just doing the work
Speaker 1: and getting it into the world, you know. But it's
Speaker 1: not like me living a certain way will make me
Speaker 1: Leonard Cohen or something that's always been the key though
Speaker 1: you know that well. I mean, I'm just pretending to
Speaker 1: learn it now for the show. I think it is
Speaker 1: crazy that Leonard Cohen is staring directly at us. I
Speaker 1: think it's crazy that you thought I was talking about
Speaker 1: a ghost. Honestly, we didn't go over this, but marijuana
Speaker 1: is legal here now and last night did run pretty long,
Speaker 1: no comment. You know what I think about when I
Speaker 1: look in the skyline now, boyash Boy, you are not
Speaker 1: only cheating voyage boy, but you're singing it really poorly.
Speaker 1: Boyash Boy, I'm gonna walk that way. I feel free here. No,
Speaker 1: I think we'll just fade that the real song into
Speaker 1: my singing and people won't notice it. Fun Boy thinks
Speaker 1: you're singing a totally different song. I think it's only
Speaker 1: going to try to find the lead producer on this.
Speaker 1: The pilot episode of Not Lost was the talented Crystal Duhaime.
Speaker 1: The show was also produced and written by Me Brendon
Speaker 1: Francis Newnham. Our associate producer was Jackson Musker. Special editorial
Speaker 1: guidance came from Europert Wintock. The show was sound designed
Speaker 1: and mixed by Crystal Duhaime and mastered by Hannas Brown.
Speaker 1: A big thanks to my friend and this episode's travel partner,
Speaker 1: Daniel Henderson. I highly recommend you check out her memoir
Speaker 1: The Ugly Cry. Not Lost as a co production of
Speaker 1: Pushkin Industries, Topic Studios and iHeartMedia, and was developed at
Speaker 1: Topic Studios. The show's executive producers are me Christy Gressman,
Speaker 1: Maria Zuckerman, Lisa Langang, and Latomullott. Production assistance on this
Speaker 1: episode also came from Jacob Smith, Amy Gaines and Julia Barton.
Speaker 1: Our theme song was created by Alexis Georgiopolis aka arp Voyage.
Speaker 1: Voyage appeared courtesy of Desireless. Note this show was recorded
Speaker 1: before the pandemic, so a big mercy to everyone we
Speaker 1: met up with in Montreal. Writer Heather O'Neill, whose new
Speaker 1: book When We Lost Our Heads is out now. Comedian
Speaker 1: Tranto Winter the staff at Bota Bota Spa. Tim Kingsbury
Speaker 1: of Arcade Fire fact check that one and he wasn't lying.
Speaker 1: Also food blogger Maysam Samaha and our dinner party host
Speaker 1: Mark and Louie. If you want to peek at our
Speaker 1: tinerary or learn about any of our guests, head to
Speaker 1: not Lawshow dot com. And if anyone from the Canadian
Speaker 1: government is listening to this and they have the power
Speaker 1: to grammy citizenship being touched. Oh and here's a trip
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Speaker 1: but it's a real thing. It would mean so much.
Speaker 1: Learn more about Topic Studios at topic studios dot com.
Speaker 1: To find more Pushkin podcasts, listen on the iHeartRadio app,
Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Brendan
Speaker 1: Francis Nunham. Until next time, bon voyage.