1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: Joining us is someone who has to chart the course 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: amid a dynamic let's say, dynamic trade landscape. Hondai Motor 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: CEO Jose Munios joins us here on set. Great to 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: have you here. I know you're here for the New 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: York Auto Show, so really appreciate you dropping by seven 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: thirty one. Les, talk to me first about your cars. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Very popular in the US. Your business has grown tremendously. 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: You have Hyundai, you have Kia, you have Genesis, which 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Katie I do bought one of, and you produce a 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: lot more cars than people would expect here in the 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: United States. 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, So thank you much for having me 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 3: so with supplaicit being that we do so, you're absolutely right. 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: So we are now the third largest oem A globally. 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: And then definitely it is not new, but for the 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: last six years or so, we have come to the 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: conclusion that the USA is the most important market for 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: US globally and it's meant to continue to do so. 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: So today we have factories in Alabama and in Georgia, 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: and just three weeks ago we open a brand new 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: factory in Savannah, Georgia to increase production by another five 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 3: hundred thousand cars, so we produce about forty percent of 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: the car that we sell in America here in America. 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: And then we are with these five hundred thousand more cars, 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: we're going to get to one point two million cars produced. 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: This is a big undertaking. 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: I do have one minor correction. I actually lease my Genesis. 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: I didn't buy it, and okay, I kind of wish 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: I had, because I'm worried about car prices rising, and 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: you did promise that you wouldn't raise your prices through 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: June second, and I'm curious. I'm not just asking for 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: myself either, what happens after June second to that price pledge. 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, you know, as mentioned, we are 35 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: very committed to this market. We announced just three weeks 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: ago in the White House with our executive chair, Mister 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: cho our big commitment to America with a twenty one 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: billion dollar investment in this country in the next five years. 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 3: So this means that we're going to increase capacity up 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: to one point two million cars, but we are also 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: going to increase everything that has to do with the 42 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: supply chain to be able to produce those cars, including 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: green and steel. So we're building a six billion a 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: state of the art green steel factory. We call it 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: the Electric ARCT Furness in Louisiana. And in addition to that, 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: we are investing in new technologies like Boston Dynamics, bringing 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: more chips to America with Nvidia, also in autonomous viving, 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: with Emotional and even with ebitols supernal here. So this 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: is really big. So thanks to those investments, we're able 50 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: to produce cars like Juice I'm Glad you like it. 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: DV seventy is the most popular Genesis, followed by the 52 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: GB eighty and it's produced here in America in our 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: plant in Alabama. 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: So, as a company that has made bigger commitments twenty 55 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: one billion through twenty twenty eight, this is another fourteen 56 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: thousand direct jobs that you reported. What do you think 57 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: more largely of the terror of posturing by the Trump administration. 58 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: Do you think some of it is actually working to 59 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: bring more factory jobs on shore in the United States, 60 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: or do you think that there's a real risk here 61 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 4: that a lot of component parts gets so expensive that 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: it dwarts a lot of buying in this country. 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: Well, in our case, we actually took the decision to 64 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: invest in our new Savannah plant during the first Tramp administration. 65 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: So you don't build a plant overnight, and you don't 66 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: build plants thinking on incentives. So we took this decision 67 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: some time ago, and then this came to fruition just 68 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: three weeks ago, as mentioned, and then we don't look 69 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: at things in the short Obviously we like free trade. 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: We think in our global business because the components come 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: from all over the world, free trade is the best 72 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: for our business. But our commitment is such that we 73 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: have to navigate through this situation. And in fact, when 74 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: all these tariffs and uncertainty came to life, we wanted 75 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: to reassure our customers that we would guarantee their prices. 76 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 3: So that's why we came up with this the Handai 77 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: Customer Assurance Program to ensure we will not increase prices 78 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: during this period. Then after that we will evaluate the situation, 79 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: but we will always focus on bringing the best product 80 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: to the market with the highest safety rates. We're number 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: one in America in terms of top safety Pick Plus, 82 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: and then with the best quality and good features. And 83 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: you have to always be competitive regardless of tariffs. 84 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: Can I ask about the rest of your supply for 85 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: the US market? I think about forty percent you make 86 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: in the US, right, I'm pretty sure that you produce 87 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: cars in Mexico for the rest of the world. And 88 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: then we get a lot of South Korean imports from 89 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: Hondaikia and Genesis. Is that? Am I doing the math correctly? 90 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: And then how does that Korean supply look? Are you 91 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: talking to the White House? Are you talking to South 92 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: Korea about getting carve outs? 93 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: Well, in our case, in the case of Handaid Motor Company, 94 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: we produce in the US. We don't produce in Mexico. 95 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 3: Really maybe very minor, but we took a concert decision 96 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: to invest here in the USA. The other the rest 97 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: of the production comes mainly from South Korea. Well, we 98 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: are part of the ALIAS for Automotive Innovation. John Bosella, 99 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: the President is representing the industry and it's conveying to 100 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: the government the needs that we have in the industry, 101 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: which are pretty much common across the board. And then 102 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: we know that there are some discussions between the South 103 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: Korean government and the White House. We are not actively 104 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: part of that discussion. And then obviously I cannot reveal 105 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: what they talk about. But definitely we all want to 106 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: ensure that there is a a plain level field for 107 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: everybody so that we can compete in good terms in 108 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 3: the market, and we want to be competitive. I maintain 109 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: this message for the consumer. We will be competitive and 110 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 3: then the market will decide, depending on the supply and demand, 111 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: if there's going to be some price increase or not. 112 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: But again, we need to be competitive, right, So that's. 113 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: What I was wondering. I mean, what does competitive mean? 114 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: Does that mean you're eating the costs to keep your 115 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: market share, you know, keeping your costs that consumers pay, 116 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: car buyers pay, and willing to take the head or 117 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: you know, how does that dynamic work? 118 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: That dynamic is not different to the way it's being 119 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: done over the last thirty years or so. It's simply 120 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: in the short term and an additional burden to manage 121 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: given all the implications of the of the supply. Again, 122 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: our job is to focus on what we can control. 123 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: The cause is something we can control. How we responding 124 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: to the increase in tariffs, localizing investing mode in the 125 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: country so that we don't get to be hit by tarifts. 126 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: That's a simple solution and then on the revenue side, 127 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: we'll have to see how the market reacts. If we 128 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: have the opportunity to take maybe some reducing centives, increased 129 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: price here there, we will do. But you're not going 130 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: to see like a huge increase all of a sudden, 131 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: or we are not planning to remove cards from the 132 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: portfolio simply because of the tariffs, et cetera. Again, the 133 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: most important is a good product, safe product, good quality, 134 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: good features, and be competitive in the market. And then 135 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: the rest is our job to try to optimize localizations. 136 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: Honda I coo amazing coverage here because of course certainly 137 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: very dynamic let's call it time in of sheriffs, and 138 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: also the time for the New York Auto Show. I 139 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: grew up going there every year of my life, so 140 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: looking forward to seeing you there