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Speaker 1: Bad baseball stuffz.

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Speaker 2: It is you pointed this out, just kind of breaking news,

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Speaker 2: the California Post, tweeting this earlier. Gavin Stone has had

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Speaker 2: a setback. We never want to hear that. Clint with

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Speaker 2: But Clint, this is what I want to say to you.

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Speaker 2: with the subtraction of Boba Shitt. Obviously, they really ramped

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Speaker 2: up their starting pitching staff. I think this is a

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Speaker 2: good club. There's no reason that they can't be the

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Speaker 2: American League side in the World Series.

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Speaker 3: And of course the Yankees, right, and.

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Speaker 2: Remember the Yankees always always a threat, and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: get a healthy Garrett coleback, They're going to get a

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Speaker 2: healthy Carlos Rodon back. Now, they did lose a couple

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Speaker 2: of guys, you know, but I think overall, I think

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Speaker 2: their bullpen is better now. I think their starting rotation

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Speaker 2: is good and it is going to get better with

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Speaker 2: their ace and cole and Carlos Rodan. So the Yankees

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Speaker 2: are always a threat. Maybe the Tigers. I'm interested to

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Speaker 2: see what the Tigers can do, of course, and of

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Speaker 2: course the Mariners. I mean, I think the Mariners again

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Speaker 2: are a very good piece. You know, you and I

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Speaker 2: were talking about how you think they need one more piece, right,

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Speaker 2: maybe one more bat in that lineup. You thought if

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Speaker 2: maybe the M's and the Tigers could be could be

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Speaker 2: you know, combined together, that would be a good club.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean the American League, I'm not as concerned.

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Speaker 2: There's not a team there that we can't beat. You

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Speaker 2: just have to play healthy baseball and good baseball at

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Speaker 2: the right time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and throwing in the Red Sox there to kind

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Speaker 1: of wrap it up. I mean, people have various opinions

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Speaker 1: of the Boston Red Sox. They do have some pitching,

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Speaker 1: they have a random depth. I think their infield is

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Speaker 1: a pretty big question mark. It can be very good

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Speaker 1: or it could be kind of somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you and I spoke about it, and

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Speaker 1: you just said it Dan. Now, just competition there is

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Speaker 1: is far and away better. But of those teams in

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Speaker 1: the Al side, Blue Jays, they keep being good. That

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Speaker 1: is a good ball club. And I think it's sustainable.

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Speaker 1: What we saw last year in their power of friendship

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Speaker 1: to get to the World Series, it was the real deal.

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Speaker 1: But still the Dodgers are better as long as they

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Speaker 1: can stay healthy. But we did ask Ruby Tomorrow Junior

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Speaker 1: about the Phillies side of things. We're gonna throw it

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Speaker 1: to him in a second, but we do want to

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Speaker 1: now and welcome in Ruby Tomorrow Jr.

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Speaker 3: We welcome you back to Dodgers' Territory.

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Speaker 2: And as you know, Clinton, I've been talking about who

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Speaker 2: the biggest competition is to the Dodgers this season. We

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Speaker 2: both feel like the Phillies are at the top of

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Speaker 2: the list us now as Ruben Amaro Junior, longtime front

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Speaker 2: office executive. Of course, you can catch him on the

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Speaker 2: Phillies podcast as well right here on the Foul Territory Network.

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Speaker 3: And Ruben, great to be with you. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for.

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Speaker 2: Joining us from the course. I hope that you hit

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Speaker 2: them straight. So let's talk about the fields for a

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Speaker 2: hot second. How do you think the outlook looks for

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Speaker 2: them basically running it back in twenty twenty six with

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Speaker 2: primarily the same club from twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some concern about that obviously, but they do have some.

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Speaker 1: Some different looks.

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Speaker 4: So I have Andrew Painter, who's going to be I

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Speaker 4: think is going to be an outstanding young starting pitcher

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Speaker 4: in this league for a long long time. They're hopeful

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Speaker 4: that he can do some things for them. Obviously, with

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Speaker 4: Wheeler out right now, it's a little bit of a concern,

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Speaker 4: but he is progressing quite well. And you know they're

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Speaker 4: going to have a center fielder who's brand new as well,

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Speaker 4: and Justin Crawford. I really like what I've seen out

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Speaker 4: of him. He's going to give a little spark with

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Speaker 4: some speed and some ability. Had a great year last

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Speaker 4: year and ready to be in the league. So yes,

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Speaker 4: they are in a lot of ways running it back,

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Speaker 4: but there's some really positive things if you look intrinsically

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Speaker 4: to the numbers. Offensively, as far as guys like Bryson Scott,

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Speaker 4: his second half was outstanding. The same thing with Brandon

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Speaker 4: marsh and they really need those guys to step forward

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Speaker 4: this year and play much like they did in the

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Speaker 4: second half as opposed to how they.

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Speaker 1: Played in the first half.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise it's going to be a daunting task to try

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Speaker 4: to beat the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: You know, my opinion was, and I could be very wrong,

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Speaker 1: and this is why we wanted you on the show.

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Speaker 1: My opinion is it feels like they've taken a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a step back. I'm you know, I have

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Speaker 1: questions about the outfield. You look at the depth chart

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Speaker 1: on you know, the Phillies website, which is not as

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Speaker 1: far from a perfect way of an outsider to get

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Speaker 1: an opinion of a team, but it shows Brandon Marsha

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Speaker 1: and left field, Brandon marshon center field, A Doolas Garcia

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Speaker 1: and right field. And I don't think Brandon marsh can

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Speaker 1: as good as he is. I don't cover that much

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Speaker 1: ground you mentioned, you know some of the outfield dudes

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Speaker 1: that are there. They got Brian de la Cruz, a

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Speaker 1: veteran in Can. What's kind of the flavor of spring

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Speaker 1: training so far? How's that outfield shaking out? Now? In

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Speaker 1: another guy we need to eventually talk about in like

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Speaker 1: the post Nick Casianos era for the Phillies, what are

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Speaker 1: you liking about the outfield?

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Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't a very productive outfield last year, and

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Speaker 4: I think that they're hopeful that it'll get more production

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Speaker 4: out of them. I mean, Justin Crawford's could probably be

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Speaker 4: hitting in the nine hole and trying to create some

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Speaker 4: havoc there at the bottom of the lineup. But I

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Speaker 4: think they're going to go with a platoon type of

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Speaker 4: a situation with Brandon Marsh and maybe a guy like

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Speaker 4: Otto Camp in left field as well as Brian Della

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Speaker 4: Cruise as a possibility. Adolas Garcia is going to get

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Speaker 4: every chance in the world to be there everyday right

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Speaker 4: field er. I know he's had a couple of tough

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Speaker 4: years in Texas, but they're hopefully hopeful that he can

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Speaker 4: get closer to what he was in twenty three and

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Speaker 4: twenty two and twenty three as opposed to where he

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Speaker 4: was in twenty four and twenty five. As far as

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Speaker 4: his numbers are concerned, Yeah, the outfield production is going

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Speaker 4: to be a bit of a concern. Do think they'll

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Speaker 4: be okay defensively, but you know, it's the offense that

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Speaker 4: they like to have produced there. The one the one

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Speaker 4: difference I do see pretty significant difference is that he

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Speaker 4: created some depth in their in their bullpen I kind

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Speaker 4: of like the things that they've that they've done, and uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, they they added some arms, they've added some depth.

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Speaker 1: Alvarado will be back.

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Speaker 4: Brad Keller is going to had a great year with Chicago.

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Speaker 4: They signed him. I think that they're as they try

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Speaker 4: to pass the ball to Juan Duran, who will be

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Speaker 4: there for a full season. I think that that's an

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Speaker 4: improvement as well. I mean, the proof will be in

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Speaker 4: the pudding. There's no question about it that the Mets

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Speaker 4: have improved or at least changed some things over Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: I think is going to be a lot healthier and

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a challenge for the for the

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Speaker 4: Phillies this year.

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Speaker 2: Rubin, you know Nick casteanos Well, you know Rob Thompson. Well,

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Speaker 2: what is your opinion on the situation that went down?

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Speaker 2: Obviously he was not welcomed back to the Phillies. He's

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Speaker 2: now trying to be on the padre is What do

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Speaker 2: you think happened there?

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Speaker 4: I just think it got to the point where it's

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Speaker 4: sort of untenable. It's gotten to the point where, uh, frankly,

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Speaker 4: you know, sometimes marriages don't work out all that well.

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Speaker 4: And I think it got to the point where there

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Speaker 4: was probably a bit of a difference of opinion as

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Speaker 4: to how things have been should have been handled. And uh,

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Speaker 4: and I do think that there were some things that

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Speaker 4: you know, that I think the front office and particularly

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Speaker 4: Rob Thompson felt disrespected by. So that said, I think

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Speaker 4: that they they felt like it was time to, uh

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Speaker 4: to move forward. That happens sometimes, especially when you have

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Speaker 4: long term contracts, Sometimes they don't work out. And and

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Speaker 4: you know, I think the team themselves and the players

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Speaker 4: themselves hope that you know, Nick does does you know

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Speaker 4: is happy where he is now? He's got an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to go play somewhere else and uh, And the Phillies

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Speaker 4: have welcomed the Doulas garcia as as their new right fielder.

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Speaker 1: I'm I think they're just looking to go forward.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Harper is a guy that I would run through

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Speaker 2: a wall for. I have a tremendous amount of respect

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Speaker 2: for the way that Bryce plays the game. Dave Dombrowski

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Speaker 2: said that, and I'm not quoting him but paraphrasing that

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Speaker 2: he didn't think that Harper was elite last season. Is

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Speaker 2: that something that motivates Bryce or is he the guy

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Speaker 2: that doesn't need any sort of extra fire to get going.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he necessarily needs that. You know him

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Speaker 4: pretty well, that's not something that he necessarily is driven by.

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Speaker 4: He's sort of driven by his own, you know, his

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Speaker 4: own want and need to be great. I mean, he

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Speaker 4: wants to be a great player, and he wants to

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Speaker 4: be a contributor, and he wants to be a he

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Speaker 4: wants to be a World Series champion. The biggest issue

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Speaker 4: with that I have with that is I really don't

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Speaker 4: think that Dave Nebrowski was trying to motivate him in

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Speaker 4: any way, shape or form. I think he was just

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Speaker 4: sort of being honest when he was asked a question

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Speaker 4: that that Bryce probably didn't have his greatest season. Whether

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Speaker 4: Bryce thought that it was necessary to point that out,

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Speaker 4: that's probably a different story. But I think they've talked

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Speaker 4: it out, they've worked it out, they're moving forward, and

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Speaker 4: now you know, Bryce is off to the WBC along

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Speaker 4: with Schwarber and a ton of other players on that

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Speaker 4: Phillies roster. So I think they're just poison ready to

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Speaker 4: go and go about their business as they almost always

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Speaker 4: professionally do.

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Speaker 1: And we talked about this team, that team kind of

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Speaker 1: running it back there they swung and missed a little

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Speaker 1: bit in free agency, missed on Boba Schett. Guess sort

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Speaker 1: of a two parter is you know, do they have

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Speaker 1: enough offense with some of the younger guys you've kind

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Speaker 1: of mentioned, you know, making waves in camp and you

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Speaker 1: know the veterans coming back running it back as it were,

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Speaker 1: do they have enough offense? And what do the Phillies

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Speaker 1: need to do to kind of make themselves re establish

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Speaker 1: themselves as a destination for free agents.

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest issue for them was that do

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Speaker 4: they have they have established number four hole hitter that's

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Speaker 4: going to be able to protect guys like Harper and

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Speaker 4: Schwarber in that lineup, and Alec Boem a couple of

637
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Speaker 4: years ago ninety seven RBIs back to back years, didn't

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Speaker 4: have that kind of season last year. I think they're

639
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Speaker 4: hopeful that he can step forward and be that guy

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Speaker 4: they haven't had, like your prototypical four whole guy to

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Speaker 4: protect those folks in the lineup. But but Boma has

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Speaker 4: been you know, it's gonna be his free agent year,

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Speaker 4: so he's gonna be poised to try to make his mark.

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Speaker 4: I do think that offensively they'll be good enough can

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Speaker 4: they make the adjustments when it's time to make the

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Speaker 4: adjustments during the playoffs to get to the next level.

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Speaker 4: I mean a lot of those as well as and

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Speaker 4: you guys know as well as well as any folks.

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Speaker 4: There's a couple of plays that could have happened in

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Speaker 4: during the course of those playoffs where the Phillies could

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Speaker 4: have could have beaten the Dodgers, didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers go on and win.

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Speaker 4: The World Series. Obviously one of the best, if not

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Speaker 4: the best, most talented team and deepest team in baseball.

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Speaker 4: But the Phillies are right there, and I don't I

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Speaker 4: still believe that they're a contending team. I do think

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Speaker 4: that at some point they're going to have to short

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Speaker 4: out who is going to be that four hole hitter,

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Speaker 4: because they haven't really had an established four hole guy.

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Speaker 4: They're going to go with their best three in the

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Speaker 4: top part of that line up in Turner, Schwarber, and Harper.

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Speaker 4: Not sure how they're going to line it up, but

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Speaker 4: they certainly need somebody to step forward to protect those

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Speaker 4: guys in the top part of the lineup.

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Speaker 3: Rubin Rangers.

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Speaker 2: Suarez is now a member of the Boston Red Sox.

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Speaker 2: How would you assess the Phillies rotation. Obviously, with Wheeler

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Speaker 2: coming back, those types of things.

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Speaker 3: How good is this rotation?

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Speaker 4: It can be very good, but it also could have

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Speaker 4: some real issues because they don't have the kind of

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Speaker 4: depth that they'd like to have. I don't think obviously

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Speaker 4: the Wheeler down at least through April and Whols how

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Speaker 4: long it will take for him to get back. He's

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Speaker 4: actually progressing really well, but a lot of it depends

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Speaker 4: on how, you know, how they were, kind of production

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Speaker 4: they get out of Painter and obviously Aaron Nola bouncing back.

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Speaker 4: He had a poor years, worst year of his career,

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Speaker 4: is unhealthiest year of his career. I think he's poison

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Speaker 4: ready to go. He's gonna pitch for Team Italy in

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Speaker 4: the WBC and he's hoping to ramp up more quickly

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Speaker 4: than he has in the past. Had a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a different throwing program to try to be a

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Speaker 4: little sharper. He threw quite well his last time out.

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Speaker 4: I like the way the way he pitched. Gonna pitch

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Speaker 4: one more time, I think before he goes off in

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Speaker 4: the WBC, but he needs to be better. He can't

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Speaker 4: have a you know, close to a seven e r

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Speaker 4: and think that that's gonna be productive enough. If he

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Speaker 4: does bounce back and Painter does pitch the way he can,

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Speaker 4: then they can cover some of those innings that Ranger

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Speaker 4: Suarez that you know, with the quality that he produced

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Speaker 4: for the Phillies, But he's gonna be a big loss,

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Speaker 4: there's no question about it. Not sure that the Phillies

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Speaker 4: were in a position to give him a five year deal.

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Speaker 1: The Phillies have been a very good team for a

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Speaker 1: long time. For a while, often have been one of

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Speaker 1: our bigger concerns as a show that covers the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: worried about the Dodgers getting through the Phillies. Obviously, a

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Speaker 1: few things could have gone a different a few different

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Speaker 1: ways for them last year. Maybe Kirkering thrown to first base.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to bring that up, obviously. I like

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Speaker 1: his his mentality's attitude about it. But what do the

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Speaker 1: Phillies need to do to get over that hump, to

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Speaker 1: get past the Dodgers to advance in the postseason. What's

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Speaker 1: kind of the missing piece for them just in terms

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Speaker 1: of winning a couple more ballgames.

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Speaker 4: I think that one of the things that has to happen.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the big three in the top part

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Speaker 4: of the lineup, they have to come through when it's

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Speaker 4: time to come through. When it's time to come through

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Speaker 4: in the clutch, those boys need to need to step forward.

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Speaker 4: That's one thing, or someone needs to do so, because they,

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Speaker 4: you know, kind of run into the gauntlet of not

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Speaker 4: being able to make that one play, get that one

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Speaker 4: big base hit to get them over the hump. They've

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Speaker 4: had chances in twenty two to twenty three, twenty four,

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Speaker 4: and twenty five to get there, have not been able

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Speaker 4: to get over them hump by getting that big clutch hit.

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Speaker 4: But I do believe that they have a good enough

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Speaker 4: team to do so. It's just a matter of them

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Speaker 4: playing better baseball when it's time to play better baseball,

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Speaker 4: and that's during the playoffs. So we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: Rubin, we appreciate you taking the time giving us all

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Speaker 2: the things we need to know about the Philadelphia Phillies

726
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: certainly a formidable opponent in the National League and to

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Dodgers. You can catch Rubin as well

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Speaker 2: as Todd Zelecki and Jim Salisbury on The Philly Show

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Speaker 2: right here on the Foul Territory Network.

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Speaker 3: Rubin, we'll talk to you soon. Thanks my friends.

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Speaker 4: Great to see you guys, and listen, good luck to

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers, but not too.

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Speaker 3: Much luck understood, understood.

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Speaker 1: As we'll see guys. Cheers, Rubend, A lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: There a lot of good insight with Rubin Tomorrow Junior

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Speaker 1: Alana dude knows this stuff, and the Phillies are going

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Speaker 1: to be good. Dodgers are going to be better. I

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Speaker 1: guess we'll.

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Speaker 3: Say yeah, I mean, I agree with that. I agree

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Speaker 3: with that.

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Speaker 2: But again, I think if we're talking just opponents, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's not listen, there's no reason the Dodgers can't run

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Speaker 2: the table. That's not fair. There's no reason the Dodgers

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00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: can't win the World Series again. But if there's a

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Speaker 2: reason that they don't, it's because of A they're not healthy.

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Speaker 2: B they don't make the most of those little moments

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Speaker 2: that matter. And that's what oral Herscheizer was talking about

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Speaker 2: in the Phillies. I think of all the teams in

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Speaker 2: the National League, are the one team, you know, the

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Speaker 2: biggest team that can be the biggest threat if the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers don't do what they're supposed to do, and then

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Speaker 2: we'll continue this.

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Speaker 3: We'll continue this series.

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Speaker 2: We'll have somebody you know on the show next time

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Speaker 2: from the Mets, because we think that they're there, you know,

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Speaker 2: the second biggest competitor when it comes to the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Yep. But for now, let's talk about a dog. Here

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Speaker 1: in last.

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Speaker 2: Licks, where are all of our Golden Retriever lovers. This

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Speaker 2: is Daffodils. She is a sweet lady. She's a senior

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Speaker 2: gal about nine to ten years old. She just needs love,

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Speaker 2: a couple of short walks here and there. She's she's vaccinated,

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Speaker 2: she's spayed. Of course, she's just a lover. She's a sweetheart.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't need a ton. She is on some heart

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Speaker 2: medication and liver medication just because of her age.

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Speaker 3: Nothing crazy.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean she doesn't have a lot of years left

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Speaker 2: to give, and Guidri's will continue to pay for her medication,

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Speaker 2: so that's not something that would fall on the adopter.

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Speaker 3: We'll take care of that.

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Speaker 2: So if you're interested in learning more about a Golden

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Speaker 2: Retriever named Daffodil, hit us up. She's about forty pounds,

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Speaker 2: so she's a smaller version of a golden and She's

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Speaker 2: a sweetheart. You know, goldens are great pups. So Gudrysguardian

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Speaker 2: dot Org. If you need more info, give.

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Speaker 1: Her a home, give her a home. Let the boys

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Speaker 1: sleep in your bed. Final thoughts, So we have people

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Speaker 1: obviously hanging out with the chat. Dalton Rushing hit a homer.

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Speaker 1: Somebody had asked us an owl of Minerva, asking if

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Speaker 1: we liked that homer by Dalton Rushing is I would

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Speaker 1: like to see him hit a middle middle pitch the

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Speaker 1: way he did, so thankfully he needed a homer like that.

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Speaker 1: We also got a super Chat earlier Nancy Brown ten

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Speaker 1: dollars stuper Chat. Thank you. Nancy says it, sending it

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Speaker 1: in honor of that thug Alex Dugout. Yeah, yeah, who

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Speaker 1: assigned with the team he deserved. Yeah. That that that

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Speaker 1: Padres team. I talked about it a little bit last night,

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Speaker 1: but that.

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Speaker 3: Padre personality is on that team. Clint.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice way. That's a nice way to say

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Speaker 1: what Nancy was saying. Personality. Final one. Jay Farrell says

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper's banana bread is elite.

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Speaker 3: Hey are you in Miami? Are you cuban from Miami?

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Speaker 1: I feel like you need to get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of this, like somebody who is a big you are

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Speaker 1: a big Bryce Harper lover. I don't know where you

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Speaker 1: stand on banana bread, but I enjoy good banana Like.

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Speaker 3: I think banana bread is just fine. It's just fun.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that a thing? He's like a baker or something

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Speaker 1: like that.

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00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: Right, also into coffee too, like if you just go

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Speaker 2: on his Instagram. Yeah, I mean it's a man in

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Speaker 2: many hats, like Alex call Alex call Dodger's outfielder. Is

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00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: he does construction? He also cooks or not?

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Speaker 3: You know, these guys are not robots.

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Speaker 1: Click, they got not one ponies baby.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right. Well, thanks you guys for

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Speaker 3: being here.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to check out Dodgers' Territory shop dot com.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you very much, and also don't forget to

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Speaker 2: like and subscribe Leslie Gus subscribe. Let's get some more

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Speaker 2: subscribers as we try to get to twenty thousand subscribers

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Speaker 2: here on Dodgers Territory. Clint and I will be back

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Speaker 2: on Thursday for sure, and as he mentioned, we're adding

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Speaker 2: a couple more shows.

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Speaker 3: Just keep us, keep us on your mind. Subscribe and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and tenth right now is postgame tomorrow Tuesday, So

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