WEBVTT - Remembering Live Aid

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of five

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles w Chuck Bryant, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Jerry over there, and this is Stuff you Know

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<v Speaker 1>and nice, I think we should say what just happened

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<v Speaker 1>off Mike because as Jerry does once every three hundred episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>she realizes what we're recording on and has an actual

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<v Speaker 1>comment about it, right, and this is about Live Aid,

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<v Speaker 1>And she went, I was in London when Live Aid happened,

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<v Speaker 1>And Josh said, did you go? Jerry said, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what was happening because we forget in there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't an internet blast like Live Aid was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But little Jerry, a little twelve year old Jerry in London,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what's going on. To get any info, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go down to the corner and look at

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<v Speaker 1>the telephone poll and see what somebody's staple there, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or go to hear the town crier on his uh

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<v Speaker 1>soapbox in the park Hyde Park. So it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very anticlimactic story because it led to nothing. But like anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I was there, I was twelve yeah, I had no

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<v Speaker 1>controller agency over my life. Probably true. But Jerry, had

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<v Speaker 1>you been just three years older, you might have been

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up on stage with Bono to dance to dance

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<v Speaker 1>to dancing um in the dark. No, that was Bruce Springsteen.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not play Live Aid. Did you know? It

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<v Speaker 1>was Courtney Cox? All right? Sure it was not real.

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<v Speaker 1>It was set up. She was an actor. Stills. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was just coincidence. But yeah. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>most famous moments of Live Aid was when Bono and

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get there. But I watched it again today, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a little teary, did you It was such

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<v Speaker 1>a great moment. Oh, I just wanted to be like Bonno, stop, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what everyone in the band was doing. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>it was like edge. You could ed still had hair before.

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<v Speaker 1>He just started wearing beanies all the time. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were playing the great song Bad and they did like

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen minute version of their like twenty two minutes set.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Bono wanted to dance with a girl, and he

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<v Speaker 1>finally jumped down onto the floor of Wimbley Stadium got

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<v Speaker 1>this young fifteen year old girl dance with her for

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen seconds, took another five minutes to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the stage, because that's how long it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>get back up on stage. Starts crossing his face as

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<v Speaker 1>he realized what's going on and edges up there, and

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Clayton has his big white afro, and uh, Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Mullin still looked identical as he always has. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just played that same riff from Bad over

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<v Speaker 1>and over and over, and they were a little mad

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<v Speaker 1>because he only got to do two songs. They were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna close with Pride in the Name of Love, which

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<v Speaker 1>everybody like wanted to hear. Sure, it was a big hit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they were a young band at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was on and the band was a little miffed.

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<v Speaker 1>But in as it turns out, that became one of

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<v Speaker 1>the iconic moments of live aid and it really launched

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube into the stratosphere, which I mean, Bonno looked out

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<v Speaker 1>on that one because I imagine backstage right after that

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<v Speaker 1>set was not a pleasant place. Dude, what it's not

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<v Speaker 1>about you? Yeah, what are you doing? But it was

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<v Speaker 1>a nice moment, he said, I really wanted to dance

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<v Speaker 1>with that fifteen year old girl. I know. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet. Her name is cal Collique, and she says

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<v Speaker 1>that she was getting kind of smushed and that that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of helped her out with security, like pulling her

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<v Speaker 1>by her hair over the barrier. Yeah, it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>very comfortable. It was rough. I should probably say at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, or we should a lot of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about you can go see. Yeah. I was

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<v Speaker 1>actually when I was researching this, I was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>a time to be allowed? Man? I was just pouring

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<v Speaker 1>through these videos. Yeah, you can just go watch. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff we're talking about is out there on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>So if if you ever just go what pause to YouTube?

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<v Speaker 1>Why o you two ub dot com type in L

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<v Speaker 1>I V E dash A I D. Yeah, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even need the dash. Their their algorithm is that smart.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know what you're talking about, and um start

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<v Speaker 1>watching videos. Yeah, I watched a bunch. We should just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of the ones through the episode that

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<v Speaker 1>we watched. The last thing I watched before we got

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<v Speaker 1>up to record was Sabbath. I didn't watch that one,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sabbath reunion. Uh. And we'll also say this was

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<v Speaker 1>so when you think man Zeppelin reunion, Sabbath Reunion, what

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<v Speaker 1>that really means is like chubby, big haired AUSI and

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<v Speaker 1>like Robert Plant wearing like electric blue pants. He was

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<v Speaker 1>just like Slater from Saved by the Bell. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big fat eighties reminder, Like, oh right, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>people look like. Even John Deacon from Queen had like

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<v Speaker 1>a big puffy, pleaded outfit. Was like they had the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties flag. But I was fourteen, and I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>told this story before, but I was babysitting. I had

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<v Speaker 1>an every day summer babysitting gig as a fourteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old babysitting these two kids that were like seventeen and nineteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were pretty close to my age looking back, they

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<v Speaker 1>were probably like eight and nine or something close. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was sort of like paid to go there and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hang out with them and make sure they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get in trouble. It wasn't like babysitting babysitting, But

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I watched virtually all of the Live Aid

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<v Speaker 1>telecast on MTV and was just stuck to it all

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<v Speaker 1>day long. I was I was nine. Yeah, uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were in London, but I didn't count. But you

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry were in Hyde Park hanging out She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this annoying nine year old just following me around

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<v Speaker 1>talking about podcasts. Says he's from the future, something about

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<v Speaker 1>a way back machine. Um. So yeah, thanks to Julia Layton,

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<v Speaker 1>who we have uh doing some writing for us now.

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Late's from back in the old day. She's great

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<v Speaker 1>and writes great stuff. And I threw Live Aid out

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<v Speaker 1>there because I thought it'd be good to learn a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about it. It was a good idea. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about the origins of this, Yes, because

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<v Speaker 1>Live Aid happened on July and um, the whole thing started.

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<v Speaker 1>The seed was planted about six months before, well a

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<v Speaker 1>little more than six months before, but not much more

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<v Speaker 1>than that, when either the BBC or the CBC, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on who you asked, ran a series of documentaries about

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<v Speaker 1>a drought and famine that was going on in Ethiopia

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. And apparently no one knew about this,

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<v Speaker 1>No one was reporting on it, It wasn't talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>And today it's hard to imagine that with our news cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was different back then, right, but even still,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, we we we became so indoctrinated from

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<v Speaker 1>that point on, and the idea of famine in Ethiopia.

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<v Speaker 1>UM that that it's hard to think of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not connecting the two. But no one knew about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one knew about it until I should say

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<v Speaker 1>that the CBC or BBC documentary series UM was aired

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<v Speaker 1>and it was powerful. There was a very famously a

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<v Speaker 1>young girl, UM, let me see if I can find

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<v Speaker 1>her name? Who was She looked like she was on

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<v Speaker 1>the verge of death. Her head just kind of lulling around.

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<v Speaker 1>She's skeletal, um and she she looks like at the

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<v Speaker 1>camera at one point and became kind of the face

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<v Speaker 1>of starving children in Ethiopia. Like really drove home, um,

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<v Speaker 1>what what was going on there. Her name was beer

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<v Speaker 1>Hahn will Do and she's grown now and is an

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<v Speaker 1>ambassador kind of like I don't think she's an official Inbastador,

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<v Speaker 1>she's kind of an unofficial ambassador for poverty, combating poverty

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<v Speaker 1>and hunger. Well she I bet she knows. I'm guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>she does. But but she really kind of drove home

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on to viewers, including a guy from

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<v Speaker 1>Ireland named Bob Geldof Yeah, who Julia refers to as

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<v Speaker 1>a b list Irish rocker. It's probably pretty accurate. The

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<v Speaker 1>Boomtown Rats were a medium big band at best. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He Also, if you're a Pink Floyd fan, uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>played Pink in the movie The Wall. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you told me this every time, Bob Gelk we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this before. Obviously there was no Pink in real life,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the movie that was a character named Pink

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, which one's pink right exactly. Um So, Geldof,

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<v Speaker 1>they had that great song. Uh, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like one day's Pink Floyd did. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the Motown Rats, my friend. Yeah, that we got that

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<v Speaker 1>one plenty wrong. That was their big hit though. That

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<v Speaker 1>was Geldof's big hit, which again I thought was an

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis Costello song until I explained it to me. That's

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<v Speaker 1>we definitely we've talked about that, right, So, um man,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if twenty years so we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>like remember when we Yeah, yeah, it's already happened to Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't sound like Abe Simpson quite yet. So

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<v Speaker 1>Geldof saw this, really spoke to him, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what we're gonna do. I want to put together

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<v Speaker 1>a fundraiser. And this is not Live Aid yet. No,

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<v Speaker 1>this is band Aid right, previous to Live Aid. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They did the song that we some of us all

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<v Speaker 1>still love it around Christmas times. A good song, some

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<v Speaker 1>of us hate it? Who does? Do they know? It's Christmas?

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<v Speaker 1>Who hates that song? I think some people hate all

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas music? Yeah, you know, or or the very least

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<v Speaker 1>gets sick of certain songs. I can see that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that one is okay. Let me put it this way.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never gotten sick of that one yet to

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<v Speaker 1>this day. No, I agree, um bono of course. Boy

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<v Speaker 1>George Bowie Banana Rama, Duran Duran, Wham you two Sting,

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Collins, you name it. Uh. They were sign on

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<v Speaker 1>that song and it benefited Ethiopian famine relief. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>got the ball rolling. Yeah, and again this was Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Geldof saw this documentary and started calling up everybody he knew,

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<v Speaker 1>pulling all these strings and put this together. And everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was going, how did Geldoff get my number? Exac list

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<v Speaker 1>Cyrus Rocker? Right? He he got this single produced and

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<v Speaker 1>released by December. He saw the documentary in October, So

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of gives you a hint. Of the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dude Bob Geldolf was. He gets things done. He lied,

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<v Speaker 1>he bluffed, he didn't take no for an answer. He

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<v Speaker 1>got things done, sure, but to him, it was always

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<v Speaker 1>for the greatest, greater good. The there was a the

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<v Speaker 1>ends definitely justified the means, especially if it manipulating spoiled rockers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get to someone more some more of that later,

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<v Speaker 1>he for sure did. Uh. That song itself though, by

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<v Speaker 1>itself raise more than ten million bucks, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>over the years done a few different versions. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like they updated every now and then with with new

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<v Speaker 1>whoever's the hot British rockers are at the time? Ed Sheeran, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he he was in the two thousand and fourteen version.

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<v Speaker 1>So was one direction. Okay, Um, they're the group, right, yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a supergroup. Oh uh and then uh, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's actually accurate or not, but then seal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, supergroup doesn't just mean they're super that means

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<v Speaker 1>right now, that's why I correct. Uh, And then uh

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<v Speaker 1>shenand O'Connor, she was on it two on the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Ones. The two fourteen version of Do They Know?

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<v Speaker 1>It was Christmas. Um So a month after that, Harry

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<v Speaker 1>Belafonte got together with a producer named Ken Kragan or Craigan,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, well, we need to do our own

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<v Speaker 1>version over here in the US because we're looking pretty

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<v Speaker 1>bad geld Off as a B list Irish rocker and

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting all the limelight. I'm Harry Belafonte, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>he gets together and they um, this is where and

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<v Speaker 1>this is something I never knew The song We Are

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<v Speaker 1>the World, of course, is what we're talking about. I

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<v Speaker 1>always heard USA for Africa. I always thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America. That's what they wanted you to think.

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew that it stood for United Support of

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<v Speaker 1>Artists for Africa until today or yesterday. Well there you

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<v Speaker 1>how about that. I think it's a great thing that

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<v Speaker 1>they surreptitiously slipped that in. And that song was um

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Quincy Jones famously worked on it. It was written.

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<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to be written by Lionel Richie, Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson and Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder was too wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>work on it, but it was a little too busy

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved in the writing at the time, so

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<v Speaker 1>it fell the line on Richie and Michael Jackson, and apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>if you believe LaToya Jackson, it was mostly Michael who

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<v Speaker 1>put that song together. I don't know about that, man,

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<v Speaker 1>because Lionel Richie's a pretty stand up dude from everything

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard. Well, I don't think he's made some

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<v Speaker 1>claim like I wrote half fifty of that song. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He was apparently pretty blown away because Michael Jackson, like

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<v Speaker 1>after he'd left, went ahead and like cut a demo

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<v Speaker 1>and brought it back and he was like, oh, well

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<v Speaker 1>that's impressive and exclusionary, right yeah, yeah, yeah, good ideas. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go go home. It's like he literally waited till I

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<v Speaker 1>walked out the door to hit record. Uh. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see Linel Richie. I just looked up his he

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<v Speaker 1>played somewhere and I was like, what's he playing these days?

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up his set list. Is he coming to

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<v Speaker 1>chest thing anytimes? I don't know, man, but the set

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<v Speaker 1>list is amazing. I'm like every single song because he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing Commodore stuff, he's doing his own stuff. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like a fun show. A little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>deep purple. Oh sure, um, do we take a break already. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't, Chuck, and I think it's high time that

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<v Speaker 1>we did. All right, let's do it. So where we

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<v Speaker 1>left off Charles was, I guess probably by this time

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<v Speaker 1>about January in USA for Africa, which does not stand

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<v Speaker 1>for USA like you think released We Are the World

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<v Speaker 1>because they were inspired by because you know, it's Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And apparently boy George had an idea of

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<v Speaker 1>going bigger and said to Geldof, look, mate, you did

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. You raised ten million dollars. You inspired USA

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<v Speaker 1>for Africa, which raised like forty four million dollars within

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<v Speaker 1>a year. But you can do more. What if you

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<v Speaker 1>put on like the biggest concert ever? Maybe you should

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Boy George out vanishing a puff of smoke

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<v Speaker 1>like he does. I'd like to see boy George too.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet that's a fun show. You and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>Culture Club. They were good, how long like the last

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<v Speaker 1>few years? I guess, yeah, like the last two years.

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<v Speaker 1>It was at the original dudes, yes, as far as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as far as I know. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>actually learned at that show that we are never to

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<v Speaker 1>let on that we're tired, because this is the penultimate

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<v Speaker 1>show of the tour and boy George kept talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it to the guitars about one more show after this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not a good looks I still have boy George,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, it does not come off very well to

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<v Speaker 1>the audience. Well, I'm not tired. I feel great. That's

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<v Speaker 1>because we do two shows back to back once a quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you mean live live, Sure, we can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>anything here. It's the live stuff. Uh. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go see Adam and the Ants too. I've been checking

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<v Speaker 1>out their touring again around. I don't know. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's Adam Ant for sure. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>any of the original ants. Would you know the difference? No,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's doing great too. Sure. So I got like

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<v Speaker 1>seeing these people coming back around healthy and like the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties did not kill them. Oh, they're really taking a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of dietary souff, a lot of botanicals. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, uh, from the point where uh do they

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<v Speaker 1>know it's Christmas? In the in the Famine documentary started

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<v Speaker 1>rolling out. It was not very long after that they

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<v Speaker 1>managed to pull off a concert in London and Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>transmitted by thirteen satellites to a hundred and sixty countries,

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<v Speaker 1>to an audience that was twenty five of the world's population.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw at one point that they announced that of

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<v Speaker 1>the world's televisions were tuned in at some point that broadcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing, It is amazing, and that's amazing today. It

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<v Speaker 1>was spectacular in Yeah, and by comparison, the Summer Olympics

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<v Speaker 1>the year before was only broadcast to sixty seven countries. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety ninety, sorry, sixty seven countries, and live aid was

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and sixty. So just we cannot overestimate how

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<v Speaker 1>huge of a deal this was, right, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of show off but also to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>buying the Western world together. It was held, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>at two places at once, in London and in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were there were concerts going on constantly in

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<v Speaker 1>both places. In the show, what you would see on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>what you watched in your babysitting would just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>switched back and forth depending on who had the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>act at the time. These days you could probably do

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<v Speaker 1>a split screen or they would just show both in

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<v Speaker 1>on two channels. Yeah, But the fact that they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing it at a time when, as Julia Layton puts it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, during a time of cassette tapes and cathode

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<v Speaker 1>ray tube TVs. It's just really impressive that they that

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Geldoff managed to put it together and help pull

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<v Speaker 1>it off with very little problem. Yeah, it was in

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<v Speaker 1>just a few months to sixteen hours total for both

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<v Speaker 1>of the shows. Uh, they overlapped by about ten hours. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there are also various satellite concerts going on

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<v Speaker 1>all over the world. Um with now you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have like sixty performers, but you know, smaller shows

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stage in conjunction. Yeah. Like I got the

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<v Speaker 1>impression that people who had already booked their tours and

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<v Speaker 1>were locked into a tour date but still wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>take part showing. Yeah, like Selene Dion, like doing a

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<v Speaker 1>number from Las Vegas on on New Year's Eve or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So it all kicked off at twelve noon London time,

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<v Speaker 1>seven am in the US. Um, the Coldstream Guards played

0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.959
<v Speaker 1>God Save the Queen. Charles and Diana came out on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that that makes it pretty cool. It is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. Did Diana park? Yeah, of course, what no

0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.560
<v Speaker 1>love for Charles? I mean sure, but he's still around.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a live aid type, you know what. I mean,

0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he irons his jeans. I don't think he

0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:03.040
<v Speaker 1>wears jeans right, Um, you know why because he doesn't iron. Yeah,

0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.320
<v Speaker 1>he could probably find somebody to iron for him if

0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.960
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to. So they take the stage of Whimley.

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<v Speaker 1>They inaugurate Live Aid and then wait, hold on, was

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<v Speaker 1>that a joker? A reference that just went over my head?

0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:17.639
<v Speaker 1>What thing? Yeah? Okay, because I'm getting like intel and

0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.040
<v Speaker 1>feedback from listeners once awhile who right in was like

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<v Speaker 1>that was a hilarious reference. Chuck me, that went right

0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:25.720
<v Speaker 1>over Josh's head. I hate that really. Yes, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get all the references. I want to get all the references.

0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.800
<v Speaker 1>So do this from no one. Okay, Josh is blinking

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<v Speaker 1>at me. Everyone, So to kick it off in anti dramatic,

0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:42.000
<v Speaker 1>climactic fashion. That's that's not very cool to say. The

0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>bands status Quo was the first band. They were big

0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:49.880
<v Speaker 1>in England. I guess they were, but they were legendary.

0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I think their first hit single was in and this

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<v Speaker 1>is They've been around the place, and dude, they got

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<v Speaker 1>it off. Like if you watch Status Quo covering John

0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Fogerty's Rocking all over the World Old, which I did,

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<v Speaker 1>like the stadium is bouncing with energy. So they were

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<v Speaker 1>clearly popular over there. They were just never big in

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<v Speaker 1>the States. But they still did a fine job. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fine, an adequate work. Been like way to

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<v Speaker 1>kick off live, that's right? Uh? And who kicked it

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<v Speaker 1>off in the US? Josh Uh? It was Joan Bayes,

0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.359
<v Speaker 1>why not right? Who came out and was like, this

0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 1>is your wood stocks long overdue? And they went who

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<v Speaker 1>are you? And she sang an acapella version of Amazing Grace,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of clumsily, leading the audience by singing very quickly

0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the next line and then singing that same line in

0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.159
<v Speaker 1>the American Amazing Grace melody. That really is clunky. It

0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.920
<v Speaker 1>was slightly clunky. Yeah, but you know it's a good

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.840
<v Speaker 1>way to start the show. Sure it was amazing Grace

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:54.159
<v Speaker 1>status quo and Joan Bayez clunkily singing amazing Grace. It

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<v Speaker 1>got better from there, basically, well it did. There were

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<v Speaker 1>seventy as. Every act had twenty minutes with was more

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<v Speaker 1>or less how long they played. A few bands went

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<v Speaker 1>over by a few minutes. But it's not if you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever done a festival or something, it's like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>cool too to just be like, we'll do one more tune.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just not something you do. I've never played a festival,

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 1>but I can imagine now we've done festival stuff when

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<v Speaker 1>we do sketch Fest every year. Oh yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You did Outside Lands by yourself. Sure, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the impression. Oh yeah, they did kind of hustle

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<v Speaker 1>me out of there. I was like, what else you

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<v Speaker 1>got in the green room and they're like, just go

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, okay, all right, I got you. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were like at the end of your end of

0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the World thing, you were like, hey, anyone want to

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 1>hear something about like get them off um Phil Collins.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was a very big deal and a total

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.960
<v Speaker 1>publicity stunt, but it worked. He and I think we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned this in the Concord episode. He played both continents

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<v Speaker 1>and they had a film crew following me around. They

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<v Speaker 1>would cut to every once in a while, like Phil

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<v Speaker 1>Collins on the plane or hustling through an airport. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no better singer than or now to have done this.

0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe probably right, maybe James Cordon would have would be

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the go to person, but this is Phil Collins. Yeah yeah,

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, no cynicism, no rock star, and he

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 1>was kind of goofy and fun that guy. I think

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you're totally right. He's playing again too, which is great news.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that, yeah, because he he wasn't able

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<v Speaker 1>to play drums for a while and he's he's back

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.280
<v Speaker 1>at it. What happened he I can't remember exactly what

0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it is, but he had some illness. Uh, I can't

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>remember exactly what, but where he like wasn't performing and

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't think he would again. Oh boy, Yeah, So it's

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of cool he's back out there again. He's great.

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:45.440
<v Speaker 1>SU studio ended up. That's awesome because of the twenty

0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:48.120
<v Speaker 1>minutes sets. Some bands got you know, like you two

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<v Speaker 1>only got into songs um generally it was about three.

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Some bands like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers with their

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<v Speaker 1>tight don't borus get to the chorus? They got in four?

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh did they? Yeah? They're set was epic. It's great.

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Who somebody had like five? I counted, well, Queen did

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of some Medley's and so they ended up getting

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.360
<v Speaker 1>more songs in there that way. There's somebody else though

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.679
<v Speaker 1>I can't quite put my finger out, sorry everybody, but

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I saw it. I was like, Wow, it's a lot

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>more songs, and it seems like everybody else had they're

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:24.199
<v Speaker 1>probably hurry up, hurry up, no banter. Um. So a

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy thousand people total were live at the

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<v Speaker 1>two shows, but like we said, in the world one

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:33.199
<v Speaker 1>point five billion people watched it as it was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty amazing. So on the actual day of the show, uh,

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you you already kicked it off right. It started in

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<v Speaker 1>London and then started in Philadelphia two hours later Status

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 1>Quo and Joan Bias, and then there was overlap for

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<v Speaker 1>like ten hours I think, yeah, ten of the sixteen hours,

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and then it went afterward it went to went back

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to Philadelphia. But chuck, um, you saw Bohemian Rhapsody right

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 1>three times? Did you really see it three times? That's adorable? Um.

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So that part at the end when they recreate live

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>AISI have you did you see the YouTube video of

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 1>the Live Aid version and the Bohemian Rhpsody version. I

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>did not watch the side by side comparison because it

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 1>is pretty close. Yeah, I mean I've watched that live

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Aid performance dozens and dozens of times. Yeah, and they

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>nailed it. Um. The thing that bothered me about that

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>movie was how much they rewrote the timeline in the band,

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>so it was not Queen's first performance back, and like

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 1>they had just reunited and forgiven each other and he

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>had just told them about HIV, like none of that

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the timeline so out of whack. Supposedly he didn't know

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>he had HIV yet at the Live AIG show. I

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>can't remember exactly. Was that pretty sure? But I mean

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like they took a lot of license

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's fine, you're trying to make a

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.160
<v Speaker 1>more dramatic film. I get it, but I don't if

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:03.199
<v Speaker 1>it needed it because that performance itself. Still if you

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>look up any what were the best performances of Live Aid,

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>it's almost roundly, Um Queen is in the number one spot. Yeah,

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.120
<v Speaker 1>not just Live Aid. Like a lot of people point

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<v Speaker 1>to that as like one of the greatest mini sets ever. Know,

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the BBC did a poll in two thousand five and

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that was named as the number one greatest rock performance

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>of all time. That is really great. Just gave me chills,

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.679
<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. I got chills right now, not even watching it,

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>just hearing you talk about a BBC poll or if

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>you're a medium writer. The article said it was like

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Adam touching God on the Sistine Chapel ceiling, Ben Franklin

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 1>wielding a lightning rod, or ET phoning home. Man, they

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>had me right up until the last one right there.

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>That's just so like, come on, just say it's great.

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get the last It's like e T phoning home. Yeah,

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Like I really tried to go on the writer's head too,

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, no, if that was personal, Yeah,

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that person really was moved by ET phone at home

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>or something. What else do we get? We got a

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of anytime you have a big thing like this,

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of people collaborating on stage. Sting

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and dire straits of course. Well yeah, Mick Jaggerantina Turner,

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that was pretty unforgettable. But not just Mick Jaggarantina Turner,

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>because it turns out that Tommy Matola, who's the head

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 1>of Sony Records, said hey, if you don't get Hall

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and Oates on with Mick Jagger, Mick Jagger's not going on,

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>And Hall and Oates backed up Tina Turner and Mick Jagger.

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, see I thought that they were saying, if

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.919
<v Speaker 1>you don't give Holland Oates a primetime slot. Then they're not.

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Then Mick Jagger won't come because he represented both. I

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>think that that was there. They they equivocated by saying

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll have him back up Mick Jagger and Tina Turner.

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 1>And even still if you look up Hall and Oates,

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it just comes up Mick Jaggerantina to Earner. They're not

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>even listed in the video anymore. But at least John

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Oates was back in then them up. Yeah, I'm pretty

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>sure Darryl Hall was too. Man. They were good. Yeah,

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>still are Yeah. Emily One saw them a couple of

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>years ago, just killing it. Still. Yeah, it's good stuff.

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I like that. Live at Darrell's house too, that show. Uh,

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen that. I don't know if he's still

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>doing it, but he did it for a few years

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>at least, and it's basically his awesome home studio. He

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>just test people over and a camera crew and they

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>just jam and do songs. They'll do like a hollow

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>note song and then mainly the songs of the artist.

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've seen them. It's fun since they've

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>been back around. Definitely saw Tears for Fears, well, they

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>played with them that might have been. Yeah, we didn't

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>stick around for Holling Notes, and I think the reason

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>why is because we had seen Holly Notes already. Yeah,

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:56.239
<v Speaker 1>like what happened in my brain? Uh, Phil Collins. They

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>got a lot out of Phil Collins because not only

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>did he sing in both he played drums with Eric Clapton,

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 1>he played drums with Led Zeppelin. Yeah. So let's talk

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>about that Zeppelin performance. You can't dance around this any longer, Chuck.

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>It was not very good. It was terrible. Yeah. Like

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>if you if you saw Led Zeppelin in like a

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>fifty person club and they've been drinking at the club

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the whole day, this is what you would expect to

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>hear from it, you'd probably be like, that was awesome. Yeah,

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>but for the first time back on stage together in

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>five years since the death of their drummer, they went

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 1>out at like their peak. There wasn't a decline of

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>led Zeppelin. They were at their peak when Bonham died.

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>According to me, Um, you don't think so. I think

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>their last album was kind of a disappointment. What was

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that physical graffiti? No coda? Oh well, that's like I

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard of that one okay, all right, fair enough.

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.719
<v Speaker 1>They were still huge and they're still they still had

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>playing your music left to put out. So there were

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>expectations on Zeppelin, okay, okay, and they come out and

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>play just a terrible set. So much of that. Phil

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Collins later on in his um autobiography said, I was

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>really thinking about walking off stage in the middle. And

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the reason I did because I knew that people would

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>be talking about to this day how Phil Collins ruined

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>led Zeppelin set, not about how bad led Zeppelin set was.

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So he said he was air drumming, trying to keep

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>out of the way because there were two drummers. Drum yeah,

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>but she didn't realize that there was going to be

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>two drummers. And he basically said, it was just it

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>was just terrible, and if you watch it, it was

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty bad. I'm looking at led Zeppelin now because I

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to mess up. I thought you were texting.

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>No Presence was their final album, not Coda? What was

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>on Present? Oh no, wait in through the Outdoor. See

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm saying. Man. They were still like

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>very much at their peak. Good lord, I can't believe

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting all this Zeppelin stuff wrong. El Cooda was

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>released in nineteen eight two. Yeah, but that but this

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>was it was a compilation out right, Okay, that's what

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I was saying. So their last studio album would have

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>been What Presents or into the I think Presence, which

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't have much presence. Sorry that should we cut that joke? No? No,

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I like it. You're coming like full boy? Did I

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>have a micro expression? Go over quite a few? Um

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>so yeah. I mean, if you watch Zeppelin's performance, they

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted it scrubbed from the world. You can still find

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>like credit versions on YouTube, not the official live aid

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>just like the guy that had the camera on his

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>shoulder in his living room. Basically, apparently Santana requested the

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>same thing. You can't find Santana said anymore because they said,

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>don't include that on that h It worked strives in

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>effect on them. Zeppelin's isn't the worst thing I've ever seen,

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>But Robert Plant was not in great form vocally, and

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>he admit such like they all look back and we're like,

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't great. No, Jimmy Page was, Um didn't do

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that great of a job either. It wasn't It wasn't

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>so horrendous that you're just like holding your nose. Yeah,

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>but it just wasn't anything like what everybody was hoping for.

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Zabbees was pretty good, I really despite it was chunky,

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>big hair at Aussie, but what else do you want

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>from it? Was? They did Children of the Grave, Iron

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Man and Paranoid and it was it was pretty you know,

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to say words here we don't say on

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the show B word in. Yeah, it was um we

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>say that, We've said that before. Really sure, all right,

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it was awesome, okay, Uh. Live Aid at Wimbley ended

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it around ten pm with do you do they know

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>It's Christmas? They brought everyone that they could out on stage.

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Paul McCartney there was there, the who was there.

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>And then right after that ended, they switched the live

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>heat over to Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers with their

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>great great set. They did American Girl, Refugee, the Waiting

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and Rebels and Uh eighty five to spite the clothes

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that was still like kind of peaked. Tom Petty too, Sure,

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the clothes really got to you. Huh. It's

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>just kind of you think of these classic rockers and

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>then you see him in Cavericies and like take. I

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's dope. Like Bob Dylan was there. Man. He

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>actually Bob Dylan very famously like we'll not pick up

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>an acoustic guitar and like play his old folks standards anymore?

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Did he on this one? Yeah? He played Blown in

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the Wind and he was dressed almost identically to the

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Fresh Prince. That would have been really really disappointing. Oh

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>my lord. Um. And then they closed the Philly show

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>UH with We Are the World and whoever was there

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.479
<v Speaker 1>who could chip in, like Kenny Loggins and China Easton

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and Melissa Manchester. Man, this is so eighties. Do you

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>remember her? Do you? Oh? Yeah, okay, I had to

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>look her up, like I know the name, but what

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>she's saying, don't cry out loud? Good song theme from

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Ice Castles. Yeah, that's and Uh. Our mutual friend Allison

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that we used to work with, UH calls us car

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Sick songs because it just reminds her like being in

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the back of the station wagon listening to a M

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>radio and being like car sick. I think it's a

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:17.719
<v Speaker 1>good good thing. So they raised about a d million bucks,

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>which is about three hundred million today. UM. Donations did

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>pick up when Queen played, they over kind of they

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>really played that up in the movie, but they did

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>have an uptick when Queen went on because it was

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>such a great performance. Yeah. I think Geldof was kind

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>of anticipating, like the phone is to be ringing off

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the hook the whole time, and um, he got very

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>frustrated visibly several times during the broadcast. Yeah he said

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the F word. Yeah, that got people pumped up. It did. Um,

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>there was he was. They went to like an interview

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>where they were kind of talking up the reason why

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Live Aid was going on, and um, the interviewer was like, well,

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>here's the let's get the address up on the on

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the screen, and he said, f the address, just give

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>him the phone, right, Yeah, that's what they were thinking.

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>So so uh and like his bandmates or other I

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know who else was was there. Who the other

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>rats I guess maybe or else Maybe one was um

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>uh was his name Midge Ray? He's Yeah, he's kind

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>of an unsung, overlooked coordinator. He really helped gold Off

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>put this together. He might have been up there, but

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>they all kind of looked at each other like, oh

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>my god. He just said the effort on the BBC,

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and that got the MTV generation going. The phone started

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>ringing around then because somebody just said the effort on TV,

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>which if you remember back before South Park came along,

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that did not happen. It did not happen. Like damn

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>was I don't want to say controversial, but it was

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>like it perked your ears up when you heard that

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>on TV because it was just so out of the ordinary.

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>This guy said that on TV on live TV being

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>broadcast around the world. It got people's attention for Yeah,

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 1>that's still a big deal to hear in a life

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>teeth Like if you hear that at an award show

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>or something, it's not shocking, but everyone goes, oh, you're

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do that. A little eight year old and

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>he's like, you're gonna get in trouble. All right, let's

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>take another break and we'll talk about what went on

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes and where all this money went. Right

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>after this, chuck, Yes, let's talk about what went on

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes and where all this money went. So

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>to put together a show this big, especially in six months, Um,

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be a lot of problems and there were, Uh,

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>if you talk to the artists, they all across the

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 1>board had monitor issues, yeah, and just couldn't led Zeppelin.

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean they didn't blame it on that, but you

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>even hear Robert Plant in the thing say like, let's

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>see if we can get these monitors going. Uh, And

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.439
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't hear themselves. And I always had heard that

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>until I started playing shows with my my dumb old

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>man band, like you can't hear ourselves. And I was

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>always like, what do you mean, Like you got these

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>ams blasting, But it's true. You can't hear yourself on

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a stage, and especially in outdoor stage unless you've got

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>really really great systems and monitors, you can't hear yourself.

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's very, very disconcerting to play music. Well it's

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>just weird, like you know that they're hearing something that

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not hearing, and you're just like, I hope it's okay.

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 1>So no one could hear themselves, which is a problem. Um.

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.919
<v Speaker 1>I believe that they had power issues at Wimbley where

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>they thought it might completely go out, like they were

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>having little brown outs. Um, there were you know, even

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>though this is for charity, there were you still are

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>dealing with huge diva popping rock stars and their management,

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>who at all by this time found out that Jerry

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there, So what's the point of going on stage? Well,

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were, you know, they were still behind

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the scenes, like ego battles and like, you can't go

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>on after this act, but my guy won't go on

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>after this person, or you know, trying to get more

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>time than twenty minutes. Was so so much so that

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Billy Joel actually did not go on because he um.

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 1>His manager was like, they want you to do piano.

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>And believe me, these other guys ain't playing piano. You're

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna look puny compared to these other sets. And he went,

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>do you mean piano? Man the song? And they went no,

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>they want you to play the piano, which, man, oh

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 1>that was so great, dumb um. And he was like,

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you mean the instrument that made me famous, that I

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:06.760
<v Speaker 1>wrote a song about that I play on of my songs.

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.240
<v Speaker 1>They want me to do that and he went yeah,

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and he went I'm not doing it no way, Billy

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 1>jo for nobody. He's like, I'll just get my telecaster

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:19.879
<v Speaker 1>do matter of trust three times. That's a good song.

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>That's a deep Billy Joel joke, is it? Not the deepest,

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.240
<v Speaker 1>but that's the one where he plays guitar on stage.

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the only song that he plays

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 1>guitar on. What do you know? He went and played

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>like a couple of dates in the Soviet Union and

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 1>like ended up helping to thaw relations between the US

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.959
<v Speaker 1>and the uss are almost single handedly. He also threw

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a tantrum on stage the first night because it was

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of like government muckety MUCKs is standing in

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the front row st the military. It wasn't and government

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>muckety MUCKs. And he was like, get the real fans

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>out right. So he like pushed his piano over and

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>mid and it doesn't miss a beat, like keeps singing

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>in the band, keeps playing, even though they're probably terrified

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>that they're going to be putting a Soviet goolog forever.

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I will still go see him every single time I

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>have a chance. But anyway, Billy Joel didn't play live

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>aid is the point? No, he didn't, and he wasn't

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the only one. Yeah, van Halen turned it down. Diana

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Ross lives him, and Elly Boy I know why they

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>asked her, Well, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, that's

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not knocking her, but I don't know. It

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't seem like a fit. It doesn't. You're right,

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like between Sabbath and led Zeppelin. They're gonna try

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Lisam and Ellie out there for goods. Troubles come on,

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>get happy? Uh, Yoko on no Uh. Cindy Lauper, talking heads,

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Stevie Wonder a C d C. And Springsteen, who still

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>really really regrets not doing Live Aid. Not just him,

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.959
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them do. Frankie goes to Hollywood turned

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:53.399
<v Speaker 1>it down, and apparently that was their manager who who

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 1>was like, you don't want to do this is gonna

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>be like a disaster, and the band was like afterward,

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 1>they said it was the the worst management decision in

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the history of Frankie said, the lead singer. Really yeah, Um,

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>they were really upset that they didn't do it. Springsteen said,

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I really wish I was just throwing the guitar in

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 1>the back seat and driven on down. That's what he said.

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>He'd wish he'd driven on down the thunder road. Yeah,

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean he yeah, Springsteen should have done it, And

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I think he knows that there was a lot of

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.439
<v Speaker 1>regret among people who didn't. Some people were like, I'm

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 1>just absolutely not doing it. Michael Jackson was It says

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>here that he was in the studio, but I read

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that he uh didn't sign on in protest because there

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>weren't any African acts on the bill or enough act

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>freaking acts on the bill for his taste. Um. And

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 1>then Huey Lewis was another one. Yeah, that was a

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 1>big one that turned out to uh. And that'll be

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>a good segue too to what happened to the money,

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>because Huey Lewis is one of the few artists who

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>came out just a few weeks before and publicly said like,

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>where's this money going? And is this really really helping

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>to fight famine? Because that's what's important to the news.

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>My friend, I was really surprised. I didn't realize that

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Huey Lewis was a woke Yeah. And and that's a

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>very good point, like, um, can I say woke? Okay,

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Um. That was the big question to Huey Lewis,

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and He's like, I'm not going out there and signing

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>up for this because I don't really know the He

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 1>was slightly cynical, but rightfully so. I think Yeah. He

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>had been in USA for Africa, and it was like,

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not convinced that that money by this time, you know,

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.399
<v Speaker 1>tens of millions of dollars actually making it to the

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 1>famine victims. And everybody was like, what famine victims. He's like,

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 1>don't you remember that's the whole reason we're doing this,

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.439
<v Speaker 1>and Geldof, I I don't want to make it sound

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.839
<v Speaker 1>like Geldof ever lost focus like that and why he

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>did this, and he proved it during the show and

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>he stomped on stages like give me your money. These

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>people are dying now. And he's still very adamant and

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 1>defensive about the funds, right, geld this, but Huey Lewis

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>was the first one to publicly say, I'm not certain

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 1>that these famine victims are actually getting this money. And

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>UM we talked about this. We did an episode on

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>famine and droughts, and I believe it was the famine

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 1>one that we talked about it in. But six months

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>after Live Aid was finished and complete and just made

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>like a hundred and fifty million dollars. I believe that

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>UM worth more than three hundred million a day this

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 1>concert one day concert raised nearly three hundred billion dollars

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:36.760
<v Speaker 1>for victims of famine in Africa, in a little country

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:40.439
<v Speaker 1>called Ethiopia that most people hadn't heard of. Um, And

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Spin Magazine sent a reporter there and said, go find

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>out what happened to that money. And Spin Magazine's reporter

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>came back and I was like, yeah, I don't know

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>if you guys want to hear what happened to that money,

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.280
<v Speaker 1>because it turns out that Ethiopia was in the midst

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>of a civil war that was being reported reported on

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>even less than the famine. And it turns out that

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the government in Ethiopia was actually largely causing the famine,

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>or at least exacerbating the worst of it. Yeah, weren't they.

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:11.399
<v Speaker 1>So there was a the Dirt so what it was called,

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.479
<v Speaker 1>which means counsel or committee. They were the military junta, Yeah,

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the Dirt regime, and they after Holly Selassie died in

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>ninety five, they took control as this military group. Well

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they they may have actually strangled them to death. Well

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.919
<v Speaker 1>it says in the article suspicious Death, So I think

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:32.280
<v Speaker 1>that's fair to say. Um, But there was they were

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>basically they're they're various stories depending on who you want

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to believe. Bob Geldolf's still says that most of this

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 1>money went there, but there are other reports that it

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 1>was being intercepted, aid was being intercepted, and they were

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>funding their civil war, and that they were making the

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>famine worse by dropping napalm on croplands this whole time,

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>cutting off supply lines to the north, and the north

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>there was this there was a civil war going on

0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>because the north used to be a country called air Tree.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 1>You and then in World War two, Ethiopia said you

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you're coming with us. You're part of Ethiopia now, and um,

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.920
<v Speaker 1>there was an insurgency that eventually was successful. I think

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>in Eritrea became independent from Ethiopia again. But this is

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>how that happened through the civil war and all of

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, the West injects five million dollars into this

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>country that's racked by famine and civil war and civil war.

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>That's helping cause the famine. And apparently either a lot

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>of people didn't know about this, or a lot of

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.840
<v Speaker 1>people didn't think we may actually be helping the civil

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 1>war by injecting this money in the country and turning

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it over to the Ethiopian government. And still to this day,

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not entirely clear how much the Ethio Ethiopian government

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 1>spent on like arms and supplies to fund this this

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>this war against the insurgency in the north. Yeah, I

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>think that's that's one of my biggest fears of any

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing like this, of like handing over this

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of some of money to countries that, uh, you

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know where it ends up. It's just like it's

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>maddening to think because you want to do the right

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>thing and donate and support these causes, but if it's

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:14.359
<v Speaker 1>actually making things worse, you know, that's the thing. It's

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>one thing if if you know it's it's not helping

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>as much as you would like it to write, it's

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 1>an entirely different thing if you're actually giving money to

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>make it easier for somebody to kill some other person,

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>like making it worse. And that's the big question that

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 1>surrounds you know, the funds from Live AIGs and Yeah,

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and you think it's frustrating because the BBC in two

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.240
<v Speaker 1>thousand and ten published a report uh kind of claiming

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this the money being diverted to build

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, reputed places and people. Yeah, they said the opposite.

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>They said that the rebel insurgency in Eritrea and recepted

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:51.800
<v Speaker 1>most of the money and they used it to fund

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>their their um civil war. But then they retracted a

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff because Geldoff, you know, got mad.

0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 1>This is only you know, eight or nine years ago,

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:02.399
<v Speaker 1>and he was no, that's not true. So there's still

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>just a lot of debate over where that money went. Right,

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:09.879
<v Speaker 1>the BBC attracted the story and published an apology too,

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>so they may have gotten that really wrong. I don't

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>think they do that kind of thing just because Bob

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Geldof gets mad, you know, sosh right. I think they

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>got the reporting very wrong. But I also have the

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>impression that guild Off, whether he believes, and and a

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of the funds went to NGOs on the ground,

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>aid groups on the ground, and it didn't all just

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 1>go to the Ethiopian government. And apparently in the aid

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 1>industry UM they still look at this like, Okay, even

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>if some of the money didn't get to where you

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted it, and it went to places you wouldn't want

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it to go, this still helped raise awareness of the

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff that goes on in Africa that the

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>West was not aware of. It was. It had a huge,

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>huge impact on how you should do these events in

0:46:56.000 --> 0:47:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the future. Um, this kicked off farm Maide and hands

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>across America. That America for sure. Have you seen us yet? No?

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>But I ran across an article that reference that and

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:10.959
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I can't wait to see that movie

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 1>even more now. It's good. Um but yeah, I mean

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it kicked off farm Aide. It kicked off like every

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>benefit concert, global benefit concert you've ever seen since then

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:24.399
<v Speaker 1>can trace its roots back to Live Aid, including Live eight,

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 1>which was another gelof one. That's a lot of people said,

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>call it Live aid too, and you'll get a lot

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 1>more traction. Yeah, but that wasn't to raise money. That

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>was just to raise awareness for the Live eight conference.

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 1>The eight Yeah yeah, what I say, the Live eight conference.

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>But think about it. Geldof wasn't trying to raise money anymore.

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to raise awareness. And I wonder if

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 1>that was because he either became convinced that that money

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:51.320
<v Speaker 1>did go to sources that he didn't want it to,

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.439
<v Speaker 1>or if he was just like, I'm tired of arguing

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>about it. I'm not gonna go to this again. But

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>as a result of that um, the eight team pours

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>nations in the world had their debts canceled by the

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>eighth eight richest nations in the world. And I think

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 1>the Aid to Africa is like doubled um over the

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 1>previous G eight summit. Yeah, and you know, previous to

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>nineteen five, you didn't. I mean you had like George

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Harrison doing the concert for Bangladesh, which is kind of

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the first high profile things like that, but

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you didn't see a ton of big rock stars out,

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, championing causes. And I think it really inspired

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a generation of young people and uh of the popping

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>rocks celebrities of that age too, to like maybe do

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:44.720
<v Speaker 1>something beneficial with their riches and their Yeah, for sure,

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 1>everyftter co caine for a couple of days and go

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.360
<v Speaker 1>do something with your life, you rocker. Yeah, you can

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:52.759
<v Speaker 1>get back on the cocaine in a week. Just put

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>it off to the side. Yeah, So just put an

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.399
<v Speaker 1>upside down magazine over it and come back to it later.

0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>It was a monumental event and one that I have

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of funness for. Still, big, big deal. That's great.

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember any of it. I remember watching it

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 1>on MTV and my big sisters were there, but I

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.400
<v Speaker 1>don't remember. I have no real memories. I was pretty stupid.

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:15.879
<v Speaker 1>I guess you were nine. I was almost nine, two

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 1>days shy of being nine. Yeah, I mean, what is

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that third grade? I was probably out playing with like

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>hey man stuff most of the timexactly, trying to find

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 1>cigarette butts on the ground. Not yet just a few

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 1>years later, though, That's right. Uh. If you want to

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 1>know more about Live AID I think Chuck and I

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and probably Jerry would strongly advise you to just go

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:36.840
<v Speaker 1>onto YouTube and spend a little time looking at concert

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<v Speaker 1>footage from it. Yeah, or send in your special live

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<v Speaker 1>aid memories. I like being in London and not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on. I love that one. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>since we said that, since we made funded Jerry's terrible

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<v Speaker 1>Live aid story, it's time for listening to mate. Hey guys,

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<v Speaker 1>listening to your episode on rape kits. My heart sank

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<v Speaker 1>when you apologize for being two dudes educating people about

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<v Speaker 1>the options one might have after being raped or sexually assaulted.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded as if you thought that men in general

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<v Speaker 1>are not fit to do this, which I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>is true. I'm a doctor, guys, who works with men

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<v Speaker 1>and women that experienced sexual violence, and I imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>male victims would find an apology of this kind unnecessary

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<v Speaker 1>at best, as with the male therapists who are doing

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<v Speaker 1>great work, and you can serve as much needed therapeutically

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<v Speaker 1>invaluable counter examples after someone has had bad experiences with men. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>don't think your initial disclaimer that this would be a

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<v Speaker 1>serious episode without any jokes was warranted, and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>the episode didn't turn out that way. If anything, you're

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<v Speaker 1>good natured humor brought so much needed warmth to the discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>We are all still trying to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about these topics, and I would like to encourage

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<v Speaker 1>you to stand by your efforts shining a light on

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult topic for the benefit of your listeners. Thank you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it up. That is from Hanno. Hanno, h no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks a lot, Hanno. It's a great name. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken, it said Hanno was in Hanover, Germany. No, yeah, really,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if they like the town so much. They

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<v Speaker 1>just said call me Hanno from now on everybody, I

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<v Speaker 1>love this town. It's like me, I'm from chuckdown your

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<v Speaker 1>addle what a t l Oh gotcha? Yeah, Chucktown, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess makes more sense if either one does well. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, Hannoh. We appreciate that. We will try to

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<v Speaker 1>take your advice to heart because it is pretty good advice. Uh.

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