1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of five 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles w Chuck Bryant, and 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: there's Jerry over there, and this is Stuff you Know 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: and nice, I think we should say what just happened 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: off Mike because as Jerry does once every three hundred episodes, 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: she realizes what we're recording on and has an actual 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: comment about it, right, and this is about Live Aid, 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: And she went, I was in London when Live Aid happened, 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: And Josh said, did you go? Jerry said, no, I 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: didn't know what was happening because we forget in there 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: wasn't an internet blast like Live Aid was a big deal. 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: But little Jerry, a little twelve year old Jerry in London, 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: doesn't know what's going on. To get any info, you 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: have to go down to the corner and look at 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: the telephone poll and see what somebody's staple there, yeah, 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: or go to hear the town crier on his uh 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: soapbox in the park Hyde Park. So it was a 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: very anticlimactic story because it led to nothing. But like anyway, 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: I was there, I was twelve yeah, I had no 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: controller agency over my life. Probably true. But Jerry, had 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: you been just three years older, you might have been 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: pulled up on stage with Bono to dance to dance 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: to dancing um in the dark. No, that was Bruce Springsteen. 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: He did not play Live Aid. Did you know? It 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: was Courtney Cox? All right? Sure it was not real. 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: It was set up. She was an actor. Stills. I 28 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: thought it was just coincidence. But yeah. One of the 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: most famous moments of Live Aid was when Bono and 30 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: We'll get there. But I watched it again today, Man, 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: I got a little teary, did you It was such 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: a great moment. Oh, I just wanted to be like Bonno, stop, No, 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: that's what everyone in the band was doing. I'm sure 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: it was like edge. You could ed still had hair before. 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: He just started wearing beanies all the time. And they 36 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: were playing the great song Bad and they did like 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: a seventeen minute version of their like twenty two minutes set. 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Because Bono wanted to dance with a girl, and he 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: finally jumped down onto the floor of Wimbley Stadium got 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: this young fifteen year old girl dance with her for 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: like fifteen seconds, took another five minutes to get back 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: to the stage, because that's how long it takes to 43 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: get back up on stage. Starts crossing his face as 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: he realized what's going on and edges up there, and 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: Adam Clayton has his big white afro, and uh, Larry 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Mullin still looked identical as he always has. And yeah, 47 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: and they just played that same riff from Bad over 48 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: and over and over, and they were a little mad 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: because he only got to do two songs. They were 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna close with Pride in the Name of Love, which 51 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: everybody like wanted to hear. Sure, it was a big hit, 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, they were a young band at the time, 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: but it was on and the band was a little miffed. 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: But in as it turns out, that became one of 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: the iconic moments of live aid and it really launched 56 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: YouTube into the stratosphere, which I mean, Bonno looked out 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: on that one because I imagine backstage right after that 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: set was not a pleasant place. Dude, what it's not 59 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: about you? Yeah, what are you doing? But it was 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: a nice moment, he said, I really wanted to dance 61 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: with that fifteen year old girl. I know. It was 62 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: very sweet. Her name is cal Collique, and she says 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: that she was getting kind of smushed and that that 64 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: kind of helped her out with security, like pulling her 65 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: by her hair over the barrier. Yeah, it doesn't look 66 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: very comfortable. It was rough. I should probably say at 67 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: this point, or we should a lot of the stuff 68 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about you can go see. Yeah. I was 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: actually when I was researching this, I was like, what 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: a time to be allowed? Man? I was just pouring 71 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: through these videos. Yeah, you can just go watch. Most 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: of the stuff we're talking about is out there on YouTube. 73 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: So if if you ever just go what pause to YouTube? 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: Why o you two ub dot com type in L 75 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I V E dash A I D. Yeah, you don't 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: even need the dash. Their their algorithm is that smart. 77 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: They don't know what you're talking about, and um start 78 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: watching videos. Yeah, I watched a bunch. We should just 79 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: talk about some of the ones through the episode that 80 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: we watched. The last thing I watched before we got 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: up to record was Sabbath. I didn't watch that one, 82 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: the Sabbath reunion. Uh. And we'll also say this was 83 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: so when you think man Zeppelin reunion, Sabbath Reunion, what 84 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: that really means is like chubby, big haired AUSI and 85 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: like Robert Plant wearing like electric blue pants. He was 86 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: just like Slater from Saved by the Bell. Yeah, it's 87 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: a big fat eighties reminder, Like, oh right, that's what 88 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: people look like. Even John Deacon from Queen had like 89 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: a big puffy, pleaded outfit. Was like they had the 90 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: eighties flag. But I was fourteen, and I think I've 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: told this story before, but I was babysitting. I had 92 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: an every day summer babysitting gig as a fourteen year 93 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: old babysitting these two kids that were like seventeen and nineteen. Yeah, 94 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: they were pretty close to my age looking back, they 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: were probably like eight and nine or something close. So 96 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: I was sort of like paid to go there and 97 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: kind of hang out with them and make sure they 98 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: didn't get in trouble. It wasn't like babysitting babysitting, But 99 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: I remember I watched virtually all of the Live Aid 100 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: telecast on MTV and was just stuck to it all 101 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: day long. I was I was nine. Yeah, uh, and 102 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: we were in London, but I didn't count. But you 103 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: and Jerry were in Hyde Park hanging out She's like, 104 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: there's this annoying nine year old just following me around 105 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: talking about podcasts. Says he's from the future, something about 106 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: a way back machine. Um. So yeah, thanks to Julia Layton, 107 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: who we have uh doing some writing for us now. 108 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: Dr Late's from back in the old day. She's great 109 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: and writes great stuff. And I threw Live Aid out 110 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: there because I thought it'd be good to learn a 111 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: little bit more about it. It was a good idea. Thanks. 112 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the origins of this, Yes, because 113 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Live Aid happened on July and um, the whole thing started. 114 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: The seed was planted about six months before, well a 115 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: little more than six months before, but not much more 116 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: than that, when either the BBC or the CBC, depending 117 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: on who you asked, ran a series of documentaries about 118 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: a drought and famine that was going on in Ethiopia 119 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: at the time. And apparently no one knew about this, 120 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: No one was reporting on it, It wasn't talked about. 121 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: And today it's hard to imagine that with our news cycle, 122 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: but it was different back then, right, but even still, 123 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: like you know, we we we became so indoctrinated from 124 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: that point on, and the idea of famine in Ethiopia. 125 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: UM that that it's hard to think of, you know, 126 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: not connecting the two. But no one knew about it, 127 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: and no one knew about it until I should say 128 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: that the CBC or BBC documentary series UM was aired 129 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: and it was powerful. There was a very famously a 130 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: young girl, UM, let me see if I can find 131 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: her name? Who was She looked like she was on 132 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: the verge of death. Her head just kind of lulling around. 133 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: She's skeletal, um and she she looks like at the 134 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: camera at one point and became kind of the face 135 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: of starving children in Ethiopia. Like really drove home, um, 136 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: what what was going on there. Her name was beer 137 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Hahn will Do and she's grown now and is an 138 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: ambassador kind of like I don't think she's an official Inbastador, 139 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: she's kind of an unofficial ambassador for poverty, combating poverty 140 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: and hunger. Well she I bet she knows. I'm guaranteed 141 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: she does. But but she really kind of drove home 142 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: what was going on to viewers, including a guy from 143 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Ireland named Bob Geldof Yeah, who Julia refers to as 144 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: a b list Irish rocker. It's probably pretty accurate. The 145 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Boomtown Rats were a medium big band at best. Uh. 146 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: He Also, if you're a Pink Floyd fan, uh, he 147 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: played Pink in the movie The Wall. Yeah. I think 148 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: you told me this every time, Bob Gelk we talked 149 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: about this before. Obviously there was no Pink in real life, 150 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: but in the movie that was a character named Pink 151 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: by the way, which one's pink right exactly. Um So, Geldof, 152 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: they had that great song. Uh, I don't know why 153 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't like one day's Pink Floyd did. That was 154 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: the Motown Rats, my friend. Yeah, that we got that 155 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: one plenty wrong. That was their big hit though. That 156 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: was Geldof's big hit, which again I thought was an 157 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: Elvis Costello song until I explained it to me. That's 158 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: we definitely we've talked about that, right, So, um man, 159 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: I wonder if twenty years so we're going to be 160 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: like remember when we Yeah, yeah, it's already happened to Chuck, 161 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: but we don't sound like Abe Simpson quite yet. So 162 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: Geldof saw this, really spoke to him, and he said, 163 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. I want to put together 164 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: a fundraiser. And this is not Live Aid yet. No, 165 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: this is band Aid right, previous to Live Aid. Uh. 166 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: They did the song that we some of us all 167 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: still love it around Christmas times. A good song, some 168 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: of us hate it? Who does? Do they know? It's Christmas? 169 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: Who hates that song? I think some people hate all 170 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: Christmas music? Yeah, you know, or or the very least 171 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: gets sick of certain songs. I can see that. Yeah, 172 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: but that one is okay. Let me put it this way. 173 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: I have never gotten sick of that one yet to 174 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: this day. No, I agree, um bono of course. Boy 175 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: George Bowie Banana Rama, Duran Duran, Wham you two Sting, 176 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: Phil Collins, you name it. Uh. They were sign on 177 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: that song and it benefited Ethiopian famine relief. That's what 178 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: got the ball rolling. Yeah, and again this was Bob 179 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: Geldof saw this documentary and started calling up everybody he knew, 180 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: pulling all these strings and put this together. And everyone 181 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: was going, how did Geldoff get my number? Exac list 182 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Cyrus Rocker? Right? He he got this single produced and 183 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: released by December. He saw the documentary in October, So 184 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: that kind of gives you a hint. Of the kind 185 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: of dude Bob Geldolf was. He gets things done. He lied, 186 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: he bluffed, he didn't take no for an answer. He 187 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: got things done, sure, but to him, it was always 188 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: for the greatest, greater good. The there was a the 189 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: ends definitely justified the means, especially if it manipulating spoiled rockers. Yeah, 190 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: and we'll get to someone more some more of that later, 191 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: he for sure did. Uh. That song itself though, by 192 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: itself raise more than ten million bucks, and they have 193 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: over the years done a few different versions. It seems 194 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: like they updated every now and then with with new 195 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: whoever's the hot British rockers are at the time? Ed Sheeran, right, 196 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: he he was in the two thousand and fourteen version. 197 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: So was one direction. Okay, Um, they're the group, right, yeah, Okay, 198 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: they're a supergroup. Oh uh and then uh, well, I 199 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: don't know if that's actually accurate or not, but then seal, 200 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, supergroup doesn't just mean they're super that means 201 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: right now, that's why I correct. Uh, And then uh 202 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: shenand O'Connor, she was on it two on the New 203 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: York Ones. The two fourteen version of Do They Know? 204 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: It was Christmas. Um So a month after that, Harry 205 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: Belafonte got together with a producer named Ken Kragan or Craigan, 206 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: and they said, well, we need to do our own 207 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: version over here in the US because we're looking pretty 208 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: bad geld Off as a B list Irish rocker and 209 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: he's getting all the limelight. I'm Harry Belafonte, right, So 210 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: he gets together and they um, this is where and 211 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: this is something I never knew The song We Are 212 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: the World, of course, is what we're talking about. I 213 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: always heard USA for Africa. I always thought it was 214 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: United States of America. That's what they wanted you to think. 215 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: I never knew that it stood for United Support of 216 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: Artists for Africa until today or yesterday. Well there you 217 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: how about that. I think it's a great thing that 218 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: they surreptitiously slipped that in. And that song was um 219 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: you know. Quincy Jones famously worked on it. It was written. 220 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be written by Lionel Richie, Michael 221 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 1: Jackson and Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder was too wanted to 222 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: work on it, but it was a little too busy 223 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: to get involved in the writing at the time, so 224 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: it fell the line on Richie and Michael Jackson, and apparently, 225 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: if you believe LaToya Jackson, it was mostly Michael who 226 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: put that song together. I don't know about that, man, 227 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: because Lionel Richie's a pretty stand up dude from everything 228 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Well, I don't think he's made some 229 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: claim like I wrote half fifty of that song. Uh. 230 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: He was apparently pretty blown away because Michael Jackson, like 231 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: after he'd left, went ahead and like cut a demo 232 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: and brought it back and he was like, oh, well 233 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: that's impressive and exclusionary, right yeah, yeah, yeah, good ideas. Okay, 234 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: go go home. It's like he literally waited till I 235 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: walked out the door to hit record. Uh. I'd like 236 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: to see Linel Richie. I just looked up his he 237 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: played somewhere and I was like, what's he playing these days? 238 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: I looked up his set list. Is he coming to 239 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: chest thing anytimes? I don't know, man, but the set 240 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: list is amazing. I'm like every single song because he's 241 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: doing Commodore stuff, he's doing his own stuff. It's really 242 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: it seems like a fun show. A little bit of 243 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: deep purple. Oh sure, um, do we take a break already. No, 244 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: we haven't, Chuck, and I think it's high time that 245 00:13:44,640 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: we did. All right, let's do it. So where we 246 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: left off Charles was, I guess probably by this time 247 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: about January in USA for Africa, which does not stand 248 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: for USA like you think released We Are the World 249 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: because they were inspired by because you know, it's Christmas 250 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: at all. And apparently boy George had an idea of 251 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: going bigger and said to Geldof, look, mate, you did 252 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: pretty good. You raised ten million dollars. You inspired USA 253 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: for Africa, which raised like forty four million dollars within 254 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: a year. But you can do more. What if you 255 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: put on like the biggest concert ever? Maybe you should 256 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: do that. Boy George out vanishing a puff of smoke 257 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: like he does. I'd like to see boy George too. 258 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: I bet that's a fun show. You and I saw 259 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: Culture Club. They were good, how long like the last 260 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: few years? I guess, yeah, like the last two years. 261 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: It was at the original dudes, yes, as far as 262 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, as far as I know. Yeah, And I 263 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: actually learned at that show that we are never to 264 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: let on that we're tired, because this is the penultimate 265 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: show of the tour and boy George kept talking about 266 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: it to the guitars about one more show after this, 267 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: and it's not a good looks I still have boy George, 268 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: but yes, it does not come off very well to 269 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: the audience. Well, I'm not tired. I feel great. That's 270 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: because we do two shows back to back once a quarter. 271 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: Oh you mean live live, Sure, we can talk about 272 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: anything here. It's the live stuff. Uh. I want to 273 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: go see Adam and the Ants too. I've been checking 274 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: out their touring again around. I don't know. I mean 275 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: it's Adam Ant for sure. I don't know if it's 276 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: any of the original ants. Would you know the difference? No, 277 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: but he's doing great too. Sure. So I got like 278 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: seeing these people coming back around healthy and like the 279 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: eighties did not kill them. Oh, they're really taking a 280 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: lot of dietary souff, a lot of botanicals. So, like 281 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: you said, uh, from the point where uh do they 282 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: know it's Christmas? In the in the Famine documentary started 283 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: rolling out. It was not very long after that they 284 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: managed to pull off a concert in London and Philadelphia, 285 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: transmitted by thirteen satellites to a hundred and sixty countries, 286 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: to an audience that was twenty five of the world's population. 287 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: I saw at one point that they announced that of 288 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: the world's televisions were tuned in at some point that broadcast. 289 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: That's amazing, It is amazing, and that's amazing today. It 290 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: was spectacular in Yeah, and by comparison, the Summer Olympics 291 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: the year before was only broadcast to sixty seven countries. Yeah, 292 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: ninety ninety, sorry, sixty seven countries, and live aid was 293 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty. So just we cannot overestimate how 294 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: huge of a deal this was, right, and it just 295 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: really kind of show off but also to kind of 296 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: buying the Western world together. It was held, like you said, 297 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: at two places at once, in London and in Philadelphia, 298 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: and there were there were concerts going on constantly in 299 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: both places. In the show, what you would see on TV, 300 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: what you watched in your babysitting would just kind of 301 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: switched back and forth depending on who had the bigger 302 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: act at the time. These days you could probably do 303 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: a split screen or they would just show both in 304 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: on two channels. Yeah, But the fact that they were 305 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: doing it at a time when, as Julia Layton puts it, 306 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, during a time of cassette tapes and cathode 307 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: ray tube TVs. It's just really impressive that they that 308 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: Bob Geldoff managed to put it together and help pull 309 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: it off with very little problem. Yeah, it was in 310 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: just a few months to sixteen hours total for both 311 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: of the shows. Uh, they overlapped by about ten hours. Um. 312 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: And then there are also various satellite concerts going on 313 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 1: all over the world. Um with now you know, they 314 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: didn't have like sixty performers, but you know, smaller shows 315 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: kind of stage in conjunction. Yeah. Like I got the 316 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: impression that people who had already booked their tours and 317 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: were locked into a tour date but still wanted to 318 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: take part showing. Yeah, like Selene Dion, like doing a 319 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: number from Las Vegas on on New Year's Eve or something. 320 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: So it all kicked off at twelve noon London time, 321 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: seven am in the US. Um, the Coldstream Guards played 322 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: God Save the Queen. Charles and Diana came out on stage. 323 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: I know that that makes it pretty cool. It is 324 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Did Diana park? Yeah, of course, what no 325 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: love for Charles? I mean sure, but he's still around. 326 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: He's not a live aid type, you know what. I mean, 327 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: I think he irons his jeans. I don't think he 328 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: wears jeans right, Um, you know why because he doesn't iron. Yeah, 329 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: he could probably find somebody to iron for him if 330 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: he wanted to. So they take the stage of Whimley. 331 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: They inaugurate Live Aid and then wait, hold on, was 332 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: that a joker? A reference that just went over my head? 333 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: What thing? Yeah? Okay, because I'm getting like intel and 334 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: feedback from listeners once awhile who right in was like 335 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: that was a hilarious reference. Chuck me, that went right 336 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: over Josh's head. I hate that really. Yes, you can't 337 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: get all the references. I want to get all the references. 338 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: So do this from no one. Okay, Josh is blinking 339 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: at me. Everyone, So to kick it off in anti dramatic, 340 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: climactic fashion. That's that's not very cool to say. The 341 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: bands status Quo was the first band. They were big 342 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: in England. I guess they were, but they were legendary. 343 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: I think their first hit single was in and this 344 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: is They've been around the place, and dude, they got 345 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: it off. Like if you watch Status Quo covering John 346 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: Fogerty's Rocking all over the World Old, which I did, 347 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: like the stadium is bouncing with energy. So they were 348 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: clearly popular over there. They were just never big in 349 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: the States. But they still did a fine job. No, 350 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: it was fine, an adequate work. Been like way to 351 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: kick off live, that's right? Uh? And who kicked it 352 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: off in the US? Josh Uh? It was Joan Bayes, 353 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: why not right? Who came out and was like, this 354 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: is your wood stocks long overdue? And they went who 355 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: are you? And she sang an acapella version of Amazing Grace, 356 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: kind of clumsily, leading the audience by singing very quickly 357 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: the next line and then singing that same line in 358 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: the American Amazing Grace melody. That really is clunky. It 359 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: was slightly clunky. Yeah, but you know it's a good 360 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: way to start the show. Sure it was amazing Grace 361 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: status quo and Joan Bayez clunkily singing amazing Grace. It 362 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: got better from there, basically, well it did. There were 363 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: seventy as. Every act had twenty minutes with was more 364 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: or less how long they played. A few bands went 365 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: over by a few minutes. But it's not if you've 366 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: ever done a festival or something, it's like it's not 367 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: cool too to just be like, we'll do one more tune. 368 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: That's just not something you do. I've never played a festival, 369 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: but I can imagine now we've done festival stuff when 370 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: we do sketch Fest every year. Oh yeah, that's right. 371 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: You did Outside Lands by yourself. Sure, but I didn't 372 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: have the impression. Oh yeah, they did kind of hustle 373 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: me out of there. I was like, what else you 374 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: got in the green room and they're like, just go 375 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: you're right, okay, all right, I got you. I thought 376 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: you were like at the end of your end of 377 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: the World thing, you were like, hey, anyone want to 378 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: hear something about like get them off um Phil Collins. 379 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: And this was a very big deal and a total 380 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: publicity stunt, but it worked. He and I think we 381 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: mentioned this in the Concord episode. He played both continents 382 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: and they had a film crew following me around. They 383 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: would cut to every once in a while, like Phil 384 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: Collins on the plane or hustling through an airport. There 385 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: is no better singer than or now to have done this. 386 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Maybe probably right, maybe James Cordon would have would be 387 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: the go to person, but this is Phil Collins. Yeah yeah, 388 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean, like, no cynicism, no rock star, and he 389 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: was kind of goofy and fun that guy. I think 390 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: you're totally right. He's playing again too, which is great news. 391 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, yeah, because he he wasn't able 392 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: to play drums for a while and he's he's back 393 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: at it. What happened he I can't remember exactly what 394 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: it is, but he had some illness. Uh, I can't 395 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: remember exactly what, but where he like wasn't performing and 396 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: didn't think he would again. Oh boy, Yeah, So it's 397 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: kind of cool he's back out there again. He's great. 398 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: SU studio ended up. That's awesome because of the twenty 399 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: minutes sets. Some bands got you know, like you two 400 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: only got into songs um generally it was about three. 401 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: Some bands like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers with their 402 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: tight don't borus get to the chorus? They got in four? 403 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Uh oh did they? Yeah? They're set was epic. It's great. 404 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: Who somebody had like five? I counted, well, Queen did 405 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: sort of some Medley's and so they ended up getting 406 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: more songs in there that way. There's somebody else though 407 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: I can't quite put my finger out, sorry everybody, but 408 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: I saw it. I was like, Wow, it's a lot 409 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: more songs, and it seems like everybody else had they're 410 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: probably hurry up, hurry up, no banter. Um. So a 411 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand people total were live at the 412 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: two shows, but like we said, in the world one 413 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: point five billion people watched it as it was happening. 414 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: Pretty amazing. So on the actual day of the show, uh, 415 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: you you already kicked it off right. It started in 416 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: London and then started in Philadelphia two hours later Status 417 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: Quo and Joan Bias, and then there was overlap for 418 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: like ten hours I think, yeah, ten of the sixteen hours, 419 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: and then it went afterward it went to went back 420 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. But chuck, um, you saw Bohemian Rhapsody right 421 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: three times? Did you really see it three times? That's adorable? Um. 422 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: So that part at the end when they recreate live 423 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: AISI have you did you see the YouTube video of 424 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: the Live Aid version and the Bohemian Rhpsody version. I 425 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: did not watch the side by side comparison because it 426 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: is pretty close. Yeah, I mean I've watched that live 427 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: Aid performance dozens and dozens of times. Yeah, and they 428 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: nailed it. Um. The thing that bothered me about that 429 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: movie was how much they rewrote the timeline in the band, 430 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: so it was not Queen's first performance back, and like 431 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: they had just reunited and forgiven each other and he 432 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: had just told them about HIV, like none of that 433 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: the timeline so out of whack. Supposedly he didn't know 434 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: he had HIV yet at the Live AIG show. I 435 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: can't remember exactly. Was that pretty sure? But I mean 436 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: a lot of like they took a lot of license 437 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: and you know, it's fine, you're trying to make a 438 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: more dramatic film. I get it, but I don't if 439 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: it needed it because that performance itself. Still if you 440 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: look up any what were the best performances of Live Aid, 441 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: it's almost roundly, Um Queen is in the number one spot. Yeah, 442 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: not just Live Aid. Like a lot of people point 443 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: to that as like one of the greatest mini sets ever. Know, 444 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: the BBC did a poll in two thousand five and 445 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: that was named as the number one greatest rock performance 446 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: of all time. That is really great. Just gave me chills, 447 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. I got chills right now, not even watching it, 448 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: just hearing you talk about a BBC poll or if 449 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: you're a medium writer. The article said it was like 450 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: Adam touching God on the Sistine Chapel ceiling, Ben Franklin 451 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: wielding a lightning rod, or ET phoning home. Man, they 452 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: had me right up until the last one right there. 453 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: That's just so like, come on, just say it's great. 454 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I didn't get the last It's like e T phoning home. Yeah, 455 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: Like I really tried to go on the writer's head too, 456 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, if that was personal, Yeah, 457 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: that person really was moved by ET phone at home 458 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: or something. What else do we get? We got a 459 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: lot of anytime you have a big thing like this, 460 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: you have a lot of people collaborating on stage. Sting 461 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: and dire straits of course. Well yeah, Mick Jaggerantina Turner, 462 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: that was pretty unforgettable. But not just Mick Jaggarantina Turner, 463 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: because it turns out that Tommy Matola, who's the head 464 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: of Sony Records, said hey, if you don't get Hall 465 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: and Oates on with Mick Jagger, Mick Jagger's not going on, 466 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: And Hall and Oates backed up Tina Turner and Mick Jagger. 467 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see I thought that they were saying, if 468 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: you don't give Holland Oates a primetime slot. Then they're not. 469 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: Then Mick Jagger won't come because he represented both. I 470 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: think that that was there. They they equivocated by saying 471 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: we'll have him back up Mick Jagger and Tina Turner. 472 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: And even still if you look up Hall and Oates, 473 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: it just comes up Mick Jaggerantina to Earner. They're not 474 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: even listed in the video anymore. But at least John 475 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: Oates was back in then them up. Yeah, I'm pretty 476 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: sure Darryl Hall was too. Man. They were good. Yeah, 477 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: still are Yeah. Emily One saw them a couple of 478 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: years ago, just killing it. Still. Yeah, it's good stuff. 479 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: I like that. Live at Darrell's house too, that show. Uh, 480 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. I don't know if he's still 481 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: doing it, but he did it for a few years 482 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: at least, and it's basically his awesome home studio. He 483 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: just test people over and a camera crew and they 484 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: just jam and do songs. They'll do like a hollow 485 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: note song and then mainly the songs of the artist. 486 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen them. It's fun since they've 487 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: been back around. Definitely saw Tears for Fears, well, they 488 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: played with them that might have been. Yeah, we didn't 489 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: stick around for Holling Notes, and I think the reason 490 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: why is because we had seen Holly Notes already. Yeah, 491 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 1: like what happened in my brain? Uh, Phil Collins. They 492 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: got a lot out of Phil Collins because not only 493 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: did he sing in both he played drums with Eric Clapton, 494 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: he played drums with Led Zeppelin. Yeah. So let's talk 495 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: about that Zeppelin performance. You can't dance around this any longer, Chuck. 496 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: It was not very good. It was terrible. Yeah. Like 497 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: if you if you saw Led Zeppelin in like a 498 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: fifty person club and they've been drinking at the club 499 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: the whole day, this is what you would expect to 500 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: hear from it, you'd probably be like, that was awesome. Yeah, 501 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: but for the first time back on stage together in 502 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: five years since the death of their drummer, they went 503 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: out at like their peak. There wasn't a decline of 504 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: led Zeppelin. They were at their peak when Bonham died. 505 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: According to me, Um, you don't think so. I think 506 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: their last album was kind of a disappointment. What was 507 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: that physical graffiti? No coda? Oh well, that's like I 508 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: haven't heard of that one okay, all right, fair enough. 509 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 1: They were still huge and they're still they still had 510 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: playing your music left to put out. So there were 511 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: expectations on Zeppelin, okay, okay, and they come out and 512 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: play just a terrible set. So much of that. Phil 513 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: Collins later on in his um autobiography said, I was 514 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: really thinking about walking off stage in the middle. And 515 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: the reason I did because I knew that people would 516 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: be talking about to this day how Phil Collins ruined 517 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: led Zeppelin set, not about how bad led Zeppelin set was. 518 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: So he said he was air drumming, trying to keep 519 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: out of the way because there were two drummers. Drum yeah, 520 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: but she didn't realize that there was going to be 521 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: two drummers. And he basically said, it was just it 522 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: was just terrible, and if you watch it, it was 523 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: pretty bad. I'm looking at led Zeppelin now because I 524 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: don't want to mess up. I thought you were texting. 525 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: No Presence was their final album, not Coda? What was 526 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: on Present? Oh no, wait in through the Outdoor. See 527 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. Man. They were still like 528 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: very much at their peak. Good lord, I can't believe 529 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting all this Zeppelin stuff wrong. El Cooda was 530 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: released in nineteen eight two. Yeah, but that but this 531 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: was it was a compilation out right, Okay, that's what 532 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: I was saying. So their last studio album would have 533 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: been What Presents or into the I think Presence, which 534 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: didn't have much presence. Sorry that should we cut that joke? No? No, 535 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: I like it. You're coming like full boy? Did I 536 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: have a micro expression? Go over quite a few? Um 537 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: so yeah. I mean, if you watch Zeppelin's performance, they 538 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: wanted it scrubbed from the world. You can still find 539 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: like credit versions on YouTube, not the official live aid 540 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: just like the guy that had the camera on his 541 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: shoulder in his living room. Basically, apparently Santana requested the 542 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: same thing. You can't find Santana said anymore because they said, 543 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: don't include that on that h It worked strives in 544 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: effect on them. Zeppelin's isn't the worst thing I've ever seen, 545 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: But Robert Plant was not in great form vocally, and 546 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: he admit such like they all look back and we're like, 547 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't great. No, Jimmy Page was, Um didn't do 548 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: that great of a job either. It wasn't It wasn't 549 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: so horrendous that you're just like holding your nose. Yeah, 550 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: but it just wasn't anything like what everybody was hoping for. 551 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: Zabbees was pretty good, I really despite it was chunky, 552 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: big hair at Aussie, but what else do you want 553 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: from it? Was? They did Children of the Grave, Iron 554 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: Man and Paranoid and it was it was pretty you know, 555 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: I want to say words here we don't say on 556 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: the show B word in. Yeah, it was um we 557 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: say that, We've said that before. Really sure, all right, 558 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: it was awesome, okay, Uh. Live Aid at Wimbley ended 559 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: it around ten pm with do you do they know 560 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: It's Christmas? They brought everyone that they could out on stage. 561 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: Of course, Paul McCartney there was there, the who was there. 562 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: And then right after that ended, they switched the live 563 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: heat over to Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers with their 564 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: great great set. They did American Girl, Refugee, the Waiting 565 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: and Rebels and Uh eighty five to spite the clothes 566 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: that was still like kind of peaked. Tom Petty too, Sure, 567 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: I think the clothes really got to you. Huh. It's 568 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: just kind of you think of these classic rockers and 569 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: then you see him in Cavericies and like take. I 570 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: think it's dope. Like Bob Dylan was there. Man. He 571 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: actually Bob Dylan very famously like we'll not pick up 572 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: an acoustic guitar and like play his old folks standards anymore? 573 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: Did he on this one? Yeah? He played Blown in 574 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: the Wind and he was dressed almost identically to the 575 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: Fresh Prince. That would have been really really disappointing. Oh 576 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: my lord. Um. And then they closed the Philly show 577 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: UH with We Are the World and whoever was there 578 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 1: who could chip in, like Kenny Loggins and China Easton 579 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: and Melissa Manchester. Man, this is so eighties. Do you 580 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: remember her? Do you? Oh? Yeah, okay, I had to 581 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: look her up, like I know the name, but what 582 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: she's saying, don't cry out loud? Good song theme from 583 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: Ice Castles. Yeah, that's and Uh. Our mutual friend Allison 584 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: that we used to work with, UH calls us car 585 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: Sick songs because it just reminds her like being in 586 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: the back of the station wagon listening to a M 587 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: radio and being like car sick. I think it's a 588 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: good good thing. So they raised about a d million bucks, 589 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: which is about three hundred million today. UM. Donations did 590 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: pick up when Queen played, they over kind of they 591 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: really played that up in the movie, but they did 592 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: have an uptick when Queen went on because it was 593 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: such a great performance. Yeah. I think Geldof was kind 594 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: of anticipating, like the phone is to be ringing off 595 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: the hook the whole time, and um, he got very 596 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: frustrated visibly several times during the broadcast. Yeah he said 597 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: the F word. Yeah, that got people pumped up. It did. Um, 598 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: there was he was. They went to like an interview 599 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: where they were kind of talking up the reason why 600 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: Live Aid was going on, and um, the interviewer was like, well, 601 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: here's the let's get the address up on the on 602 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: the screen, and he said, f the address, just give 603 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: him the phone, right, Yeah, that's what they were thinking. 604 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: So so uh and like his bandmates or other I 605 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: don't know who else was was there. Who the other 606 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: rats I guess maybe or else Maybe one was um 607 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: uh was his name Midge Ray? He's Yeah, he's kind 608 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: of an unsung, overlooked coordinator. He really helped gold Off 609 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: put this together. He might have been up there, but 610 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: they all kind of looked at each other like, oh 611 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: my god. He just said the effort on the BBC, 612 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: and that got the MTV generation going. The phone started 613 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: ringing around then because somebody just said the effort on TV, 614 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: which if you remember back before South Park came along, 615 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: that did not happen. It did not happen. Like damn 616 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: was I don't want to say controversial, but it was 617 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: like it perked your ears up when you heard that 618 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: on TV because it was just so out of the ordinary. 619 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: This guy said that on TV on live TV being 620 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: broadcast around the world. It got people's attention for Yeah, 621 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: that's still a big deal to hear in a life 622 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: teeth Like if you hear that at an award show 623 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: or something, it's not shocking, but everyone goes, oh, you're 624 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: supposed to do that. A little eight year old and 625 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: he's like, you're gonna get in trouble. All right, let's 626 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: take another break and we'll talk about what went on 627 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: behind the scenes and where all this money went. Right 628 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: after this, chuck, Yes, let's talk about what went on 629 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: behind the scenes and where all this money went. So 630 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: to put together a show this big, especially in six months, Um, 631 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a lot of problems and there were, Uh, 632 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: if you talk to the artists, they all across the 633 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: board had monitor issues, yeah, and just couldn't led Zeppelin. 634 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean they didn't blame it on that, but you 635 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: even hear Robert Plant in the thing say like, let's 636 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: see if we can get these monitors going. Uh, And 637 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: they couldn't hear themselves. And I always had heard that 638 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: until I started playing shows with my my dumb old 639 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: man band, like you can't hear ourselves. And I was 640 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: always like, what do you mean, Like you got these 641 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: ams blasting, But it's true. You can't hear yourself on 642 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: a stage, and especially in outdoor stage unless you've got 643 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: really really great systems and monitors, you can't hear yourself. 644 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: And it's very, very disconcerting to play music. Well it's 645 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: just weird, like you know that they're hearing something that 646 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: you're not hearing, and you're just like, I hope it's okay. 647 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: So no one could hear themselves, which is a problem. Um. 648 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 1: I believe that they had power issues at Wimbley where 649 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: they thought it might completely go out, like they were 650 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: having little brown outs. Um, there were you know, even 651 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: though this is for charity, there were you still are 652 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: dealing with huge diva popping rock stars and their management, 653 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: who at all by this time found out that Jerry 654 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: wasn't there, So what's the point of going on stage? Well, 655 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean they were, you know, they were still behind 656 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: the scenes, like ego battles and like, you can't go 657 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: on after this act, but my guy won't go on 658 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: after this person, or you know, trying to get more 659 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: time than twenty minutes. Was so so much so that 660 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: Billy Joel actually did not go on because he um. 661 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: His manager was like, they want you to do piano. 662 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: And believe me, these other guys ain't playing piano. You're 663 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: gonna look puny compared to these other sets. And he went, 664 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: do you mean piano? Man the song? And they went no, 665 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: they want you to play the piano, which, man, oh 666 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: that was so great, dumb um. And he was like, 667 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: you mean the instrument that made me famous, that I 668 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 1: wrote a song about that I play on of my songs. 669 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 1: They want me to do that and he went yeah, 670 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: and he went I'm not doing it no way, Billy 671 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: jo for nobody. He's like, I'll just get my telecaster 672 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: do matter of trust three times. That's a good song. 673 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: That's a deep Billy Joel joke, is it? Not the deepest, 674 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: but that's the one where he plays guitar on stage. 675 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: It's kind of like the only song that he plays 676 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: guitar on. What do you know? He went and played 677 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: like a couple of dates in the Soviet Union and 678 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: like ended up helping to thaw relations between the US 679 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,959 Speaker 1: and the uss are almost single handedly. He also threw 680 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: a tantrum on stage the first night because it was 681 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: a bunch of like government muckety MUCKs is standing in 682 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: the front row st the military. It wasn't and government 683 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: muckety MUCKs. And he was like, get the real fans 684 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: out right. So he like pushed his piano over and 685 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: mid and it doesn't miss a beat, like keeps singing 686 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: in the band, keeps playing, even though they're probably terrified 687 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: that they're going to be putting a Soviet goolog forever. 688 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: I will still go see him every single time I 689 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: have a chance. But anyway, Billy Joel didn't play live 690 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: aid is the point? No, he didn't, and he wasn't 691 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: the only one. Yeah, van Halen turned it down. Diana 692 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: Ross lives him, and Elly Boy I know why they 693 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: asked her, Well, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, that's 694 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: not I'm not knocking her, but I don't know. It 695 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like a fit. It doesn't. You're right, 696 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: it's like between Sabbath and led Zeppelin. They're gonna try 697 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: Lisam and Ellie out there for goods. Troubles come on, 698 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: get happy? Uh, Yoko on no Uh. Cindy Lauper, talking heads, 699 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder a C d C. And Springsteen, who still 700 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: really really regrets not doing Live Aid. Not just him, 701 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 1: a lot of them do. Frankie goes to Hollywood turned 702 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: it down, and apparently that was their manager who who 703 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 1: was like, you don't want to do this is gonna 704 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: be like a disaster, and the band was like afterward, 705 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: they said it was the the worst management decision in 706 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: the history of Frankie said, the lead singer. Really yeah, Um, 707 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: they were really upset that they didn't do it. Springsteen said, 708 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: I really wish I was just throwing the guitar in 709 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: the back seat and driven on down. That's what he said. 710 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: He'd wish he'd driven on down the thunder road. Yeah, 711 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean he yeah, Springsteen should have done it, And 712 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: I think he knows that there was a lot of 713 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,439 Speaker 1: regret among people who didn't. Some people were like, I'm 714 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: just absolutely not doing it. Michael Jackson was It says 715 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: here that he was in the studio, but I read 716 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: that he uh didn't sign on in protest because there 717 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: weren't any African acts on the bill or enough act 718 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: freaking acts on the bill for his taste. Um. And 719 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: then Huey Lewis was another one. Yeah, that was a 720 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: big one that turned out to uh. And that'll be 721 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: a good segue too to what happened to the money, 722 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: because Huey Lewis is one of the few artists who 723 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: came out just a few weeks before and publicly said like, 724 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: where's this money going? And is this really really helping 725 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: to fight famine? Because that's what's important to the news. 726 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: My friend, I was really surprised. I didn't realize that 727 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: Huey Lewis was a woke Yeah. And and that's a 728 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: very good point, like, um, can I say woke? Okay, 729 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: Jerry Um. That was the big question to Huey Lewis, 730 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: and He's like, I'm not going out there and signing 731 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: up for this because I don't really know the He 732 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: was slightly cynical, but rightfully so. I think Yeah. He 733 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: had been in USA for Africa, and it was like, 734 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that that money by this time, you know, 735 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars actually making it to the 736 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: famine victims. And everybody was like, what famine victims. He's like, 737 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: don't you remember that's the whole reason we're doing this, 738 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 1: and Geldof, I I don't want to make it sound 739 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: like Geldof ever lost focus like that and why he 740 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: did this, and he proved it during the show and 741 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: he stomped on stages like give me your money. These 742 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: people are dying now. And he's still very adamant and 743 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: defensive about the funds, right, geld this, but Huey Lewis 744 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: was the first one to publicly say, I'm not certain 745 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: that these famine victims are actually getting this money. And 746 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: UM we talked about this. We did an episode on 747 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: famine and droughts, and I believe it was the famine 748 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: one that we talked about it in. But six months 749 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: after Live Aid was finished and complete and just made 750 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifty million dollars. I believe that 751 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: UM worth more than three hundred million a day this 752 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: concert one day concert raised nearly three hundred billion dollars 753 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 1: for victims of famine in Africa, in a little country 754 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: called Ethiopia that most people hadn't heard of. Um, And 755 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: Spin Magazine sent a reporter there and said, go find 756 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: out what happened to that money. And Spin Magazine's reporter 757 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: came back and I was like, yeah, I don't know 758 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: if you guys want to hear what happened to that money, 759 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 1: because it turns out that Ethiopia was in the midst 760 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: of a civil war that was being reported reported on 761 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: even less than the famine. And it turns out that 762 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: the government in Ethiopia was actually largely causing the famine, 763 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: or at least exacerbating the worst of it. Yeah, weren't they. 764 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: So there was a the Dirt so what it was called, 765 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,479 Speaker 1: which means counsel or committee. They were the military junta, Yeah, 766 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: the Dirt regime, and they after Holly Selassie died in 767 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: ninety five, they took control as this military group. Well 768 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: they they may have actually strangled them to death. Well 769 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 1: it says in the article suspicious Death, So I think 770 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: that's fair to say. Um, But there was they were 771 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: basically they're they're various stories depending on who you want 772 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: to believe. Bob Geldolf's still says that most of this 773 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: money went there, but there are other reports that it 774 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: was being intercepted, aid was being intercepted, and they were 775 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: funding their civil war, and that they were making the 776 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: famine worse by dropping napalm on croplands this whole time, 777 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: cutting off supply lines to the north, and the north 778 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: there was this there was a civil war going on 779 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: because the north used to be a country called air Tree. 780 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: You and then in World War two, Ethiopia said you 781 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: you're coming with us. You're part of Ethiopia now, and um, 782 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: there was an insurgency that eventually was successful. I think 783 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: in Eritrea became independent from Ethiopia again. But this is 784 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: how that happened through the civil war and all of 785 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: a sudden, the West injects five million dollars into this 786 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: country that's racked by famine and civil war and civil war. 787 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: That's helping cause the famine. And apparently either a lot 788 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: of people didn't know about this, or a lot of 789 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: people didn't think we may actually be helping the civil 790 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: war by injecting this money in the country and turning 791 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: it over to the Ethiopian government. And still to this day, 792 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: it's not entirely clear how much the Ethio Ethiopian government 793 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 1: spent on like arms and supplies to fund this this 794 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: this war against the insurgency in the north. Yeah, I 795 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: think that's that's one of my biggest fears of any 796 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: kind of thing like this, of like handing over this 797 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: kind of some of money to countries that, uh, you 798 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: don't know where it ends up. It's just like it's 799 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: maddening to think because you want to do the right 800 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: thing and donate and support these causes, but if it's 801 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: actually making things worse, you know, that's the thing. It's 802 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: one thing if if you know it's it's not helping 803 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: as much as you would like it to write, it's 804 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: an entirely different thing if you're actually giving money to 805 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: make it easier for somebody to kill some other person, 806 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: like making it worse. And that's the big question that 807 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: surrounds you know, the funds from Live AIGs and Yeah, 808 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: and you think it's frustrating because the BBC in two 809 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 1: thousand and ten published a report uh kind of claiming 810 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 1: a lot of this the money being diverted to build 811 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, reputed places and people. Yeah, they said the opposite. 812 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: They said that the rebel insurgency in Eritrea and recepted 813 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 1: most of the money and they used it to fund 814 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: their their um civil war. But then they retracted a 815 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff because Geldoff, you know, got mad. 816 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: This is only you know, eight or nine years ago, 817 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: and he was no, that's not true. So there's still 818 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: just a lot of debate over where that money went. Right, 819 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 1: the BBC attracted the story and published an apology too, 820 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: so they may have gotten that really wrong. I don't 821 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: think they do that kind of thing just because Bob 822 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: Geldof gets mad, you know, sosh right. I think they 823 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: got the reporting very wrong. But I also have the 824 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: impression that guild Off, whether he believes, and and a 825 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: lot of the funds went to NGOs on the ground, 826 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: aid groups on the ground, and it didn't all just 827 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: go to the Ethiopian government. And apparently in the aid 828 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: industry UM they still look at this like, Okay, even 829 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: if some of the money didn't get to where you 830 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: wanted it, and it went to places you wouldn't want 831 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: it to go, this still helped raise awareness of the 832 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: kind of stuff that goes on in Africa that the 833 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: West was not aware of. It was. It had a huge, 834 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: huge impact on how you should do these events in 835 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 1: the future. Um, this kicked off farm Maide and hands 836 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: across America. That America for sure. Have you seen us yet? No? 837 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: But I ran across an article that reference that and 838 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,959 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't wait to see that movie 839 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: even more now. It's good. Um but yeah, I mean 840 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: it kicked off farm Aide. It kicked off like every 841 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: benefit concert, global benefit concert you've ever seen since then 842 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 1: can trace its roots back to Live Aid, including Live eight, 843 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: which was another gelof one. That's a lot of people said, 844 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: call it Live aid too, and you'll get a lot 845 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: more traction. Yeah, but that wasn't to raise money. That 846 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: was just to raise awareness for the Live eight conference. 847 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: The eight Yeah yeah, what I say, the Live eight conference. 848 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: But think about it. Geldof wasn't trying to raise money anymore. 849 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: He was trying to raise awareness. And I wonder if 850 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: that was because he either became convinced that that money 851 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: did go to sources that he didn't want it to, 852 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,439 Speaker 1: or if he was just like, I'm tired of arguing 853 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: about it. I'm not gonna go to this again. But 854 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: as a result of that um, the eight team pours 855 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: nations in the world had their debts canceled by the 856 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: eighth eight richest nations in the world. And I think 857 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: the Aid to Africa is like doubled um over the 858 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: previous G eight summit. Yeah, and you know, previous to 859 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: nineteen five, you didn't. I mean you had like George 860 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: Harrison doing the concert for Bangladesh, which is kind of 861 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: one of the first high profile things like that, but 862 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: you didn't see a ton of big rock stars out, 863 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, championing causes. And I think it really inspired 864 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: a generation of young people and uh of the popping 865 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: rocks celebrities of that age too, to like maybe do 866 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 1: something beneficial with their riches and their Yeah, for sure, 867 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: everyftter co caine for a couple of days and go 868 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: do something with your life, you rocker. Yeah, you can 869 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: get back on the cocaine in a week. Just put 870 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: it off to the side. Yeah, So just put an 871 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 1: upside down magazine over it and come back to it later. 872 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: It was a monumental event and one that I have 873 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: a lot of funness for. Still, big, big deal. That's great. 874 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't remember any of it. I remember watching it 875 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: on MTV and my big sisters were there, but I 876 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: don't remember. I have no real memories. I was pretty stupid. 877 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 1: I guess you were nine. I was almost nine, two 878 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 1: days shy of being nine. Yeah, I mean, what is 879 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: that third grade? I was probably out playing with like 880 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: hey man stuff most of the timexactly, trying to find 881 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: cigarette butts on the ground. Not yet just a few 882 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: years later, though, That's right. Uh. If you want to 883 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: know more about Live AID I think Chuck and I 884 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: and probably Jerry would strongly advise you to just go 885 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: onto YouTube and spend a little time looking at concert 886 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: footage from it. Yeah, or send in your special live 887 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: aid memories. I like being in London and not knowing 888 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: what was going on. I love that one. Um. And 889 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: since we said that, since we made funded Jerry's terrible 890 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 1: Live aid story, it's time for listening to mate. Hey guys, 891 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: listening to your episode on rape kits. My heart sank 892 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: when you apologize for being two dudes educating people about 893 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: the options one might have after being raped or sexually assaulted. 894 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: It sounded as if you thought that men in general 895 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: are not fit to do this, which I don't think 896 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: is true. I'm a doctor, guys, who works with men 897 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: and women that experienced sexual violence, and I imagine that 898 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: male victims would find an apology of this kind unnecessary 899 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: at best, as with the male therapists who are doing 900 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: great work, and you can serve as much needed therapeutically 901 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,439 Speaker 1: invaluable counter examples after someone has had bad experiences with men. Also, 902 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: don't think your initial disclaimer that this would be a 903 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: serious episode without any jokes was warranted, and I'm glad 904 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: the episode didn't turn out that way. If anything, you're 905 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: good natured humor brought so much needed warmth to the discussion. 906 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: We are all still trying to figure out how to 907 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: talk about these topics, and I would like to encourage 908 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: you to stand by your efforts shining a light on 909 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: a difficult topic for the benefit of your listeners. Thank you, guys, 910 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: keep it up. That is from Hanno. Hanno, h no, no, 911 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Hanno. It's a great name. Yeah, and 912 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:06,240 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, it said Hanno was in Hanover, Germany. No, yeah, really, 913 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: I wonder if they like the town so much. They 914 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: just said call me Hanno from now on everybody, I 915 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,439 Speaker 1: love this town. It's like me, I'm from chuckdown your 916 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: addle what a t l Oh gotcha? Yeah, Chucktown, I 917 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 1: guess makes more sense if either one does well. Thanks 918 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 1: a lot, Hannoh. We appreciate that. We will try to 919 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: take your advice to heart because it is pretty good advice. Uh. 920 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: And if you want to get in touch of this, 921 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: like Hanno did, you can go on to stuff you 922 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: Should Know dot com and find our social links. 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