WEBVTT - Week in Tech: CheatGPT 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:16.760 Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production of iHeart Podcasts and Kaleidoscope. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.400 I'm os Vlosian, and today Karen Price and I will 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.200 bring you the headlines this week, including how Interpol is 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.520 keeping up with new types of crime. Then on tech Support, 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:30.080 we'll talk to the Washington Posts Drew Holwell about one 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:35.200 woman's three year twenty four to seven live stream experiment. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.880 Some of the people I talked to who were Emily's fans, 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.440 they would go to sleep listening to Emily's voice. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.959 All of that. On the Weekend Tech It's Friday, May Night. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.040 So Carol, we have become quite fascinated on this program 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.600 by personas online who aren't exactly what they seem. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:00:59.800 That is absolutely right. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.120 In last week, you'll remember we did the deep dive 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.440 on AI John Cena, who's the metabot, getting into all 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.760 kinds of illegal sexual situations, which was very disturbing. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:11.880 Yeah, well that's right. I've got a story this week 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:16.039 though about real people pretending to be something they're not 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.480 online and a novel way of catching them out. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:20.800 Is that called a dating app? 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:25.280 They tell me this is basically this is geopolitical catfishing. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.840 According to cybersecurity experts, thousands of North Korean infiltrators are 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.920 getting hired by Fortune five hundred companies. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.160 So the North Koreans who aren't fighting with Russia on 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:40.039 the battlefields of Ukraine are working for large American corporations. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.920 That's exactly right. And then once they get hired, they 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.280 collect their wages, but they also steal intellectual property and 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:47.920 insert malware. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:51.040 So in a way, this is another battlefield. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.160 That's very well put Cara. There's a publication called The 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.720 Register which reported that these North Korean infiltrators have gone 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:01.720 undetected by masking their IP addresses by creating farms of 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.600 laptops which are physically situated in the US, and then 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.400 they basically pay US people to allow them to remotely 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.440 dial into these laptop farms. They're also of course using 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.840 AI to write job applications as everyone is, and making 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.000 fake LinkedIn profiles. Once they actually get hired there, they 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.919 tend to do very well because they have a whole 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.280 army of other North Koreans helping them do their jobs 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:25.760 in the background. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.480 So they have actual coworkers, they have. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.200 Co workers there as a front man who gets the 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.239 job and then dozens of people who help them do 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.600 an excellent job. And part of the story is actually 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.880 that even when companies become aware, they don't want to 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.080 fire these people because they're so much better than all 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:39.560 the other employees. 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.880 So they're keeping they get to keep their job. 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.640 I think they probably do in the end to have 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.040 to get rid of them. One cybersecurity expert, however, has 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.600 found a full proof way to catch out a suspected 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.880 North Korean infiltrator in a job interview. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:55.400 That's something that I need to know in my every 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:55.799 day life. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.120 It all starts with a question, do you know what 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:58.760 the question is? 0:02:58.840 --> 0:02:59.880 I have no idea. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.160 How fat is Kim Johnkwun? Ask me the question, how 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.840 fat is Kim junk Wun? Well, you're not too long. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.960 North Korean infiltrated would immediately close out of the video 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.280 conference because even contemplating that question is to. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.200 As Wow, that's so interesting. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.720 So that's fake fake people of the wheat story. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.280 I'll have one next week for you, maybe about me. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.240 So you love stories about fake people online. I love 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.880 Peanut M and MS very good match. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.720 Very good. You know who eats Pean and M and MS. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.880 Probably Kim Johnon He may do he may If you 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:40.080 can get an eminem into. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.040 Big red wine enthusiasts. 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:46.080 French red wine really attressive, of course, not chatewed Diana 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.280 so well. Speaking of Chateau Diana and peanut m and ms, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.840 there's a new app that is gaining popularity that a 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.560 lot of my friends actually use, and it's this app 0:03:55.600 --> 0:04:00.120 that tells you how guilty your guilty snacking pleasure. 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:01.720 Is like a calorie counter apple, what. 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.440 Sort of it's like calorie counter adjacent. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.960 It's called yuka, like the vegetable. That's correct, but it 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:08.960 also has yuck in it. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.680 I just made up a new word. That's correct. It's correct. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.520 That's correct for those of you, like OZ who are 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.400 unfamiliar with it. The app actually lets you scan the 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.159 barcodes of different foods and personal products and then gives 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.800 them a score based on how healthy it is. Everything 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.640 that I've ever scanned is like you will die. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.880 So you basically you take a photo of the barcode 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:30.760 and upload it to the app, and then it kind 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.520 of spits out what the product has in it. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:33.520 That's right, that's right. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:34.440 How did the M and ms do? 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:36.200 Zero out of one hundred? 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:36.920 Is actually true? 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:37.200 Yes? 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.640 Yes, the nuts in them? 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.920 What you said? 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.640 They contain at least six additives, four of which it 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.039 rated as high risk. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:50.440 Whatever high risk means. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.920 It's already I'm too far gone because I eat pan 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:53.960 and Eminem's every single night. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:55.039 I call them my night chocolate. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.760 You know. I read that the app sometimes offers healthier 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.920 alternatives for products that you've scanned or looked up, and 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.840 I'll produce a tory. Actually tried scanning some Twinkies. Sadly, 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:06.480 there are no alternatives. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.000 This is like when people say, oh, do you want 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.800 to have sex? Free sex? You know what I'm saying, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.760 It's just that to me, Well, it's like how I 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.640 feel about all these alternatives. So I actually have a 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.000 friend who was pushing Yuka on me so hard, and 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.240 I'm like, leave me out of this drama. I don't 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.400 want to see what's in the products that I'm eating. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:28.280 But it actually looks like she's not alone. Unsurprisingly, our 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.800 dear RFK Junior and his wife both use Yuka. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.680 This is the app you use if you want to 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.839 have the feeling of the United States Secretary of Health 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.880 and Human Services constantly whispering over your shoulder about food additives. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:45.000 And indeed, those emin ms have red forty, which. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.880 Is so sad because red eminems are my favorite m 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.159 and ms. You know, I think it speaks to a 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:53.680 sort of health conscious, make America healthy moment people are having. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.120 Like if you've been to. 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.680 The grocery store recently, they're putting protein on everything, like 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:58.960 protein waffles. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.080 Like, why do I need prote in my popcorn? It's 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:01.960 just popcorn? 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:02.320 You know. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.440 There are sodas with extra fiber and probiotics in them. 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.799 You've got steak and shake transitioning away from using seed 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.520 oils in French fry, Like if I go to steak 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:11.920 a chake, I want to eat a French fry. I'm 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.000 not trying to eat like an avocado oil French fry. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.840 The wood Street Channal reported that Yuka has sixty eight 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:22.279 million users worldwide, and an average of twenty five thousand 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:26.039 new US users have joined daily since the beginning of 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.400 this year, twenty five thousand people every day. At the 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.160 beginning of May, Yuka rank as the number one health 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.800 and fitness app in Apple's app store. Not only that, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.760 major food brands like Campbell's and Chabani have responded to 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.719 customers complaining about the ingredients they find in their products 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:41.559 while using Yuka. 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:43.719 I don't want to think that we are all becoming 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.400 Rfki junior. But I think at least once you download 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.880 the app, you can think that you're being health conscious, 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:51.200 even if it's one time. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.160 I mean, I think the thing is like if you're 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.400 reaching for a bag of M and m's no judgment, 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.000 you kind of know it's not besting anyway. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.360 Anything that I reach for, It's like, I don't need 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.240 an app to tell me if I'm doing something right now. 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.560 I think if you're choosing between like different frozen dinners, 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.120 for example, and one is like categorically best than the other, 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.080 that like, if you're like it's an input to a 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.440 switching decision versus like should I eat the eminems, I 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:12.640 can imagine it being more useful. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.760 Yes, and I do think people are interested in finding 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.760 healthy alternatives, which is an interesting thing. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.200 I guess that comes out of Yuca. Yes, that's absolutely true. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.920 Well, some people are looking into what's going into their food, 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.080 others into what's going into their clusrooms. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:27.520 Very nice. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.160 Thank You've got a headline for us about this. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.400 I do have a news story for you about what's 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.600 going on in the classroom, a place I haven't been 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.600 in at least fifteen years. Recently, over two hundred and 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:42.400 fifty CEOs, from Microsoft's Satya Nadella to Josh Kushner's Karly 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:46.840 Klaus to the CEO of the College Board signed an 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.880 open letter calling for computer science and AI to be 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:54.360 quote a core part of US kindergarten through twelve curricula. 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.240 The letter states that taking just one high school computer 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.360 science course can boost students few wages by eight percent, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.880 regardless of career path or college attendance. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.119 One of these moments where we were like in peak, 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.400 everyone should learn to code, and then it was like 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:09.800 no one should learn to code, and now it's like 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.119 people should learn to code again. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.120 I know I'd to use a computer very young, and 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.360 my income has not been boosted by eight percent. 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:16.000 I'll tell you that. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.080 The letter doesn't specify really how this curriculum should be 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.480 developed and rolled out, but it does point to countries 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.400 like Singapore, China, and South Korea as examples of countries 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.400 they've done this successfully. The letter reads, quote in the 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.360 age of AI, we must prepare our children for the 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.840 future to be AI creators, not just consumers. A basic 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.280 foundation in computer science and AI is crucial for helping 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.480 every student thrive in a technology driven world. Without it, 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:41.560 there is falling behind. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.320 Yeah, there's a huge investment in AI education from countries 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.360 who want to get a long term edge in the 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.960 AI race, Like the UAE. The Amoradi school system will 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.720 add AI as a subject in the upcoming school year 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.840 and will include concepts like ethical awareness and real world applications. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:03.520 Schools in Beijing will start offering AI courses in September 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:04.080 as well. 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.920 Here in the US, President Trump recently signed an executive 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.920 order calling to emphasize AI competency in schools. The executive 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.880 order also called the establishment of a Presidential Artificial Intelligence 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.160 Challenge and nationwide competition for students and educators demonstrate their 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:20.120 AI skills. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.400 This reminds me of the Bass pro fishing Python Hunter 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.559 Bowl in Florida, which is something I really loved. But no, honestly, 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.520 it seems like kids are demonstrating their AI skills, just 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.320 not in the ways that teachers would perhaps like them to. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.520 New York Magazine actually ran an article titled quote everyone 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.120 is cheating their way through college, And there was actually 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.400 a statistic in there that was really striking, which is 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.960 that in a survey of one thousand college students, nearly 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.320 ninety percent the other ten percenter line had used chat 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.920 gpt for homework help. And this was back in twenty 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.160 twenty three, before chat gpt became you know, every eighty 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.000 year old's best friend. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.000 Yeah, that last ten percent, I think it's probably been 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.840 accounted for since twenty twenty three. One of the students said, quote, 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.960 with chat gipt, I can write an essay in two 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.920 hours that normally takes twelve. It can't be easy being 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.400 k through twelve teacher or college professor these days. Some 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.280 of them have tried devising their own ways to detect 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.600 chatchipt usage in their student's essays. Others say, you can 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.439 tell when an essay is written by a chatbot because 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.559 it's written clunkily or random words. But of course these 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.000 models are just getting better and better. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:24.640 I mean, we got away with it in the script, 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.480 didn't we know? I'm kidding, But the way that I 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:30.360 would have exploited chat gypt at sixteen seventeen eighteen. You know, 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.679 all I had back in my day was free translation 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:37.239 dot com, which allowed me to write long French essays. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.480 Yes, you can work well enough to did it depends on. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:45.559 As my B plus baby as MYB plus. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.360 So our next headline is about competition between the US 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.000 and China, but not in the classroom and not really 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.480 an AI, rather in the realm of vehicles. The Wall 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.240 Street Journal around this headline with the story what a 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.560 fifteen thousand dollars electric suv says about the US China 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.640 car rivalry. The car in question is the Toyota BZ 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.440 three X, which is a compact electric suv about the 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.120 same size as the Toyota RAV four, which of course 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.040 is ubiquitous here in the US. But the car has 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.800 a jaw droppingly low price tag. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.200 If an electric car costs fifteen thousand dollars, it would 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:21.600 be like a plug and chug driver. 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:22.760 It's amazing. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.080 Yeah, Well, you can thank China's supply chains for the 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.880 price of the car. Toyota are obviously a Japanese company, 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.200 but the cars are localized in different parts of the world, 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.520 and this suv is made in China using Chinese batteries 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.640 and Chinese driver assistance technology. But when Toyotas are sold 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.319 in the US, the supply chain is way more expensive. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.199 There's a similar model available here for about forty thousand dollars, 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.480 so someone else, why don't you buy the Chinese version 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.520 and import it. Well, that'd be the most beautiful word 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.480 in English language tariffs, except in this case, bidener are 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.600 tariffs which put one hundred percent tariff on Chinese evs. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.280 And I don't see Trump reversing that one. 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.160 That's not one of the ones he's going to be 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:05.600 running back gus for sure. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.480 But it's a weird thing how much we live in 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:11.400 this parallel universe with China, Like fifteen thousand versus forty thousand, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.000 is I guess a one hundred percent tariff? 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.040 There you go, that's that. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.960 More. And China people buy local car brands that we've 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.640 never heard of here in the US Zeka Ion there 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.120 is one that's slightly more well known called BYD not 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.880 by me. And the technology around these Chinese evs is 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.240 very impressive. C ATL, a Chinese battery manufacturer, recently showed 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.640 off a new EV battery that can put three hundred 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.840 miles of charge into a car battery in just five minutes. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:41.840 That's insane. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.559 These companies in China, these battery companies and car companies 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.160 are really really pulling ahead in the race. 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:49.120 That's incredible. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.040 It just seems like cars are a really good reflection 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.960 of the sort of siling off of global economies, at 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.640 least between the US and China, and with the addition 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.880 of more tariffs on Chinese imports, this it probably isn't 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.400 going to change anytime soon. 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:04.679 Bye. By globalization. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.440 There is one area though, where countries still work together, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:10.439 and that's Interpol. 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:12.000 You know, you're right about that. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.120 And I wanted to tell you a little bit about 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.360 this Financial Time story that I read about how Interpol 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.520 has been adapting to the technologies modern criminals are using. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:25.360 Interpol you know, is, of course the International Criminal Police Organization. 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.240 Of course I didn't know that. I thought you would. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:29.960 You're supposed to know all this stuff. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:31.479 I thought it was French Interpol. 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.200 So let me say it again for you, international criminal 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.720 police organization. And they have been engaged in a technological 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.319 arms race with the world's most wanted criminals. I always 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.280 think of inspector Gadget when I think of this stuff. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.160 The article is a great read, and it describes Interpol's 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.840 innovation lab, which is in Singapore, with an opening scene 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:53.440 quote a fleet of underwater drones, gleaming and ready for action, 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.280 is lined up along the wall. Nearby a small armory 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.680 of brightly colored three D printed guns displayed on a 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:05.000 side table. A robot dog named Ino lies prone on 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.280 the floor waiting to be activated. 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:08.640 There's something filthy. 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.240 When I first read that, I was like, you know, 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.000 I do not like the way they're talking about you 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.600 in this article. He lies prone on the floor. That's 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.319 how you know FT is a British newspaper. But yeah, 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:21.280 the FT actually interviewed the head of Interpol's Digital Forensics 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.920 team and he said that the advancement of technology in 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.480 the last couple of years is the biggest he's seen, 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.640 which is saying a lot because he's actually been working 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.000 there since the late nineties to keep up with the 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.800 evolution of cybercrime. Interpol actually opened the Singapore Lab in 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.160 twenty fifteen, and these days one of their main focuses 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.840 is identifying AI enabled scams, which, as you know and 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.840 as we know as a listenership, are getting more and. 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.760 More sophisticated with the use of deep fakes. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.280 Just a decade ago we were dealing with the Nigerian 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.720 print scam, and now we are trying to tackle deep 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:57.360 fake romance scams, sextortion and multimillion dollar phishing attacks. So 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.280 when the FT reporter visited the Interpol lab, it was 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:05.120 monitoring nearly three point five million attempted cyber attacks, and 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.640 he was told that that was fairly typical. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.120 I especially like the section about the robot canine units. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.040 Some of the models Interpol has are the size of 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.920 a German shepherd, and they can run up to seven 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.160 and a half miles per hour, and they can jump 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.760 pretty high. And they can also be sort of two 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:27.360 way microphone systems carrying audio messages, which apparently can be 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.360 quite handy in hostage situations. 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.240 Yeah, so say what you want about technology being used 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.520 for morally dubious ends, but if I were the hostage 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.360 in that situation, at least my confusion would distract from 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.840 my panic, Like you'd be waiting for your captors to 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.000 untie you while they argue with a robot dog. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:47.280 Like. Also, robot dogs can't retire or get sick or 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:47.800 get sick. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.680 I actually just heard this story about how bomb squad 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.280 unit dogs have to retire with their owners. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.520 Essentially, so the New York Police dogs basically they're one 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:58.640 person dogs. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.960 And if they're handle or retire, they're like woh, Wow, 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.200 come to my retirement party. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:04.480 Where's these robot dogs? 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.360 Exactly the root, completely owner agnostic. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:08.760 Yeah. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.160 But one of the big takeaways from the piece, this 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.680 ft piece, is that even with the innovation Lab, Interpol's 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:15.880 job is never over. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.480 We talked about dogs, Now it's time for game of 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:19.560 cat and mouse. 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.680 Criminals will catch up and vice versa. You know, take 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:28.000 ghost guns for example. They are popular amongst criminals because, 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.520 unlike traditional firearms, they do not have serial numbers, and 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.040 so Interpol is now trying to figure out how to 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.800 link a ghost gun to their specific printers by analyzing 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.280 the composition of the materials in order to figure out 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:40.840 their origin. 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.120 I joked about cat and mouse gains. But you can 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.600 just imagine how the next innovation will be disguising the 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.480 variable compositions of these ghost guns. We've got a couple 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.440 more headlines to run through, Starting with another crime story. 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.320 The Guardian reports that a trial over a road rage 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.160 induced killing of a man called Chris Pelk is underway, 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:06.119 starring Chris Pelke and Ai. Generated Pelky appeared in a 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.840 video calling for forgiveness for the man accused of shooting 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.520 him in what maybe the first AI delivered victim impact 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.280 statement ever delivered in a courtroom. I'm going to play 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:16.600 a fore. 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.080 Now, in another life, we probably could have been friends. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.200 I believe in forgiveness and in God who forgives. 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.600 I always have and I still do. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.280 I love what does he keep saying. 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.240 I love that AI Judge shows out towards I love 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:30.639 that AI. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.719 Oh my god, yea incredible. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:34.240 You know. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.840 The script was written by Pelky's sister and brother in law. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.160 They fed the AI model, you know, images and video 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.720 of Pelki, but they actually wrote this script and I 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.680 thought it was quite quite moving that they would want 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.240 to go so far and above and beyond to give 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.359 a victim impact statement asking for forgiveness for the shooter. 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:55.000 It's incredible. Also, this is essentially a deep fake because 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.200 of their brother. And I've seen a lot of deep fakes. 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.000 This one is very good. Other than that it looked 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:05.920 sort of computer generated. It is computer generated, so another 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:07.679 deep fake news. Do you remember that picture of the 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.320 late Pope France is wearing a Montclair puffer jacket. 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.880 Yeah, this Ski Ski Sheek. It was like supreme Pope. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:18.120 It was the Supreme Pope. It was AI generated but beloved. Nonetheless, 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.160 and now we sort of have a sequel to this. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.040 The White House posted an AI generated picture of President 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:29.560 Trump dressed as the Pope hat robe, cross everything. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.880 True, respect, that's right. 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.080 This post on X comes weeks after the passing of 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.240 Pope Francis and days after Trump said to media I'd 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:42.160 like to be Pope. There's been plenty of backlash from 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.600 state leaders to the New York archbishop, but when the 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:50.200 BBC asked a spokesperson for the Vatican to comment, they declined. 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:56.080 Finally, move over Hershey, Pennsylvania. According to The New York Times, 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:00.479 SpaceX is building a company town. Officially, residents of an 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.320 area surrounding SpaceX's launch site in the southern tip of 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.760 Texas have voted to create a city called star Base. 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.920 Starbase will be home to some three thy five hundred 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:14.280