WEBVTT - Mark-Paul Gosselaar Meets World 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:20.360 This podcast was recorded June twenty second, twenty twenty three. 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:26.200 I think it is very helping, very hard for people 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:30.160 to do, but especially Californians, to admit if you're a 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.519 bad driver. Oh yeah, why does everyone think that they're 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.600 the best driver in the world, Like, I am a 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.760 totally average, too bad driver. Like and it took me 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:41.360 a long time to come to terms with this, Like 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.240 when I was a teenager or in my twenties, I 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.240 was like, oh, yeah, I'm amazing, you know, just good. 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.720 And then it's like, no, man, I like I beckon 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.600 to crap all the time. It's a serious Do you 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:51.760 not have a camera? 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:53.520 Okay? 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.600 Of course I do? Now, so now okay, so yeah, 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:57.560 basically says I have a backup air. But I recently 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.400 hit a car out in front of my son's school. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.960 Oh no, it's always parking. It'scept for like a real accident. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.559 It's always like when I'm not paying attention this car 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.919 my wife in my wife's car, which is just the worst. 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:12.080 And her instant reaction, which is fair but you know, 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.640 not very supportive, is like, you know, it's not like, 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:15.880 oh my god, you hit that car. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.039 Oh writer, it was god German. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.399 Writer just right there. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.920 That would be my reaction to that would not. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.880 Only did I scrape the front I crunch, but then 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:27.480 to pull out of the situation. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.399 It's just did the double along the car double crunch. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.720 But I gotta leave a note out it's my son's principle. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.880 No, No, you crashed into. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.120 Oh couldn't have been a better person. I love my 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.360 son's principle. He's like the nicest guy in the world. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.240 So like, basically, if anybody at the school, like, you know, 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.880 I just had visions of some horribly angry parent or 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.720 my son's bully, you know, like I could have gone 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:58.360 a million. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:01:59.080 Son of a bully. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.200 No, I don't good because I honestly I will go 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.160 kick that kid's ass. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:05.160 She would, I would. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.240 I'm looking to kick someone's ass. That sounds great, It's 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.840 funny you say that. I also am a second. That's yeah, 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.760 that's fine. I'm fine with that. No, obviously not. I 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.720 would never kick anybody's ass. H. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.560 But can you admit where you are as a driver? Like, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:23.400 can have you come? 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:23.960 Yeah? 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:28.160 I'm terrible because I am way too aggressive. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:33.080 I drive too fast, too close, And. 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.440 I agree with everything she's saying right now. For her 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.680 I've now been since daniel and I have lived together, 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.360 lived near each other, lives in my bass. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.600 Little tea, a little bit of tea. That's when I uh. 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.640 I've started to drive with Danielle a lot more because 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.720 she usually carpools. She we carpool. She's the driver. And 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.120 you're not a bad driver. You are just you do 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.440 you are? You are like you said, you're an aggressive driver. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.680 Everyone out of my freaking way. Get out of my way. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:03.120 You're not a bat. You're technically not a bad I couldn't. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.480 I couldn't technically be a professional race car driver, like. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.680 You have good control of the via good control of 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:09.880 the V. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.800 They probably have great measures, like I know exactly what 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:19.320 the measurements of driver really. I haven't mind any foenies lately. 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.480 Why are my favorite? 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:23.040 Oh my god? 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.520 Because because you're the person who thinks that that the 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.080 road belongs to them, correct, and that they have the right, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.200 they have the right to be aggressive, and all these 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.760 idiotic drivers being safe and slow and follow what are 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.880 you doing? Yes, that's the problem, You're the problem. Yes, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.320 I remember? Do you remember when you first disagree with 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.120 an s u V and you hydro planed on the 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:43.680 way to work. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.200 No, I don't remember that horrible car accident where I 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.120 spun out in the center of the freeway with my car. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.600 Like you got a Forerunner, you have a you have 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:54.120 four wheel. 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.040 Never Rider. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:01.000 It was El Nino and imbrastling. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.200 Danielle when we all hung out at Ryder's house up 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.720 on one day and driveway and you drove off the drive. 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:13.920 Off that driveway was a literal nightmare driver. Okay, So 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.200 Rider had us all over to his house. What year 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:17.520 was this. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.960 I wasn't between two. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.640 Thousand and five and two thousand and nine. That's when 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:22.680 I was looking canyon. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:28.039 Okay, so upwards of fifteen plus years ago. And Rider 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:32.520 had this super steep, curved driveway. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.200 Always it was like a sand no matter where you like, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.600 war right up and then an immediate act your. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.320 New Rider was going to buy a house if there 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.080 was no parking or horrible parkings, like I'll take it, I'll. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.280 Take it, that's the one I want. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.000 It was one of those driveways when you're you're driving 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.600 up you can't see where you're going because the car 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:52.320 is so steep you can't see anything, so reversing down 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:57.080 it was also just terrible and I in the slow 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.720 reverse of it. I turned the wheel too soon and 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.719 w one of my one of the wheels was now 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.400 dangling off a cliff over the curve. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.320 It like looks over the edge of the curve and 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:08.480 a truck. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.760 Nothing could be done. I was like, this is truly terrible. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.359 Well, I live here now. I live here now with Rider. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:16.000 That's what you say. 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:19.320 I had to wait for the triple A and off 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.720 it up and yeah, oh my gosh. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.919 It was just I was like, why do we let 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:26.400 Rider host the get together? 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.760 Seriously? Exactly we need? We need. That's what one of 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.400 the things I'll tell you I asked for when I 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:30.920 bought my house. 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:31.680 I needed parking. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.320 Writer was the Writer was the most organized and the 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.680 most on top of making sure we got together. So 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.479 that's why they were always at Writer's house because Writer 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.440 was the person who thankfully got us all together. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.000 The Writer was the adult. By the way, I'm a 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.640 phenomenal driver. For the record, are you yeah? 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:49.320 I actually believe that he never drives. Yeah, that's true. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.960 I drive well again, I so we Driving was very 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.320 important in my family. So I started to learn how 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:55.600 to drive when I was like. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.880 Twelve, right two years after you started smoking pretty much. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:00.840 I had my cigarette and my car. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.320 It was a Connecticut car, so you had to there 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:04.520 was no engine, was. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:09.040 Exactly, it's a horse drawn car. No. My father what Famously, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.040 when when I got my license and knew I was 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.920 going to have to start driving myself into New York 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.039 City for auditions, drove my stant. He drove down in 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:18.920 my Selica, which I still have. My first car is 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.360 still have my Toyota Celica. And he drove to the 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.920 middle of the city and put the car in neutral, 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.120 got out of the car, put me in the driver's seat, 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:28.839 and said, all right, you're driving in New York. If 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.520 you can drive here, you can drive anywhere. And we 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.000 drove around New York for like four hours, and by 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:35.840 that point then he was right, I could drive anywhere. 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.880 My dad did the exact same thing. He picked me 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.440 up in a stick shift at school. It was like 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.000 at my school where I had to walk like a 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.880 mile to get too picked up. And then I got 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.640 picked up now both and he was just there and 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.599 he was and we had somewhere to go, like forty 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.480 five minutes away, and he's like, I'm like, I can't 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.520 drive stick shift he's like, hey, okay, figure it out. 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:52.560 YEP, I just did. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.160 And then yeah, I ever had a problem. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:54.400 Yeah. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.760 I got my first motorcycle when I was ten, so 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.920 that I mean I started with kind of shifting when 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:00.720 you when I was ten and I rode a bike 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.120 from ten to what do your name? 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.120 You got your first motorcycle and you get a. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:05.880 Mini bike like I got. I got a Z fifty 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.000 dirt bike, and then when I was eleven it went 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:09.720 to to an XR eighty, and then I went up 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.520 to an XR one hundred. My friends we all you know, 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.360 like Johnny and Karate Kid. We we were. We were 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.960 them without the coolness and or martial arts. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:18.400 Che I just thought you were like fast and the 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.440 furious is that you. 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:24.320 No, I was more slow and delibertous. It was, yeah, 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.800 it was. It was not exactly but no. But driving 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:29.560 my you know, my dad loves cars and all. Also 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.640 driving was hugely important in my family. So we were 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.720 we were taught to and driving you have to drive 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.200 a stick shift through else you're just steering. So it's 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.080 that was we had to know how to drive anything 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:39.960 you could get your hands on. It's like you have 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.800 to know how to drive immediately. I'm amazed he didn't 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.960 make us learn how to fly, just because that's how 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:45.240 we were in our family, where it's like you got 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:46.560 to learn how to operate this vehicle. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.720 Like Okay, do you guys remember, uh, well you probably 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.520 my manager when I was a teenager. Yeah, I was 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.160 thinking about these this bad driver situation, and the memory 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.400 came back to me, which was she was a horrible driver, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.760 like the most terrified. Now a horrible driver in exactly 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.040 the way Danielle is a horrible driver, but like to 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.960 an extreme that I imagine Danielle was not. Like he would 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.760 weave in and out of traffic, like do like crazy 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.800 last minute turns, constantly, have all these like insane And 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.679 I remember being eleven years old getting in the car 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.120 with him and another kid who was one of his clients, 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.040 and the other kid being like, you know, you know, uh, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.600 mister Toad's wild Ride at Disneyland. That's what it's like 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.080 driving in the car with him, and he was like 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.400 proud of the fact that he was this insane. And 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.720 I think about that now and I'm like, if if 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.520 I handed my kid over to a manager to drive 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.480 him around Los Angeles all the time. I mean I 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.640 drove with this guy all the time, every day to auditions. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.200 I would spend weeks in la just with him without 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.480 my parents. Like I would be so pissed if a 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.000 person drove Indy like this. And yet at the time, 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.719 I thought we were the coolest car on the road, 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.040 you know what I mean. I looked at him, It's like, oh, 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.320 you're willing to drive fast and cool and all these 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:10.079 other drivers are losers following the rules and the speed limits, 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.400 and you, my manager, are getting me everywhere. And like 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.600 if there's not a better like metaphor for the dangers 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.400 of child actor or the trust that you put in 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.240 adults around you when you were a kid, Like I 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.920 just thought like this guy and like now like I'm 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.320 genuinely angry at this person, Like I want to write 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.520 him a letter and be like, dude, what the hell 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.000 were you thinking? Like, yes, you we never got into 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.720 an accident, but we were so lucky and like what 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.200 and I what are the Like that is just infuriating 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.800 to me. And my parents were just like yeh, you know, 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.120 and I probably told him like he's a crazy driver, 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:44.679 and my parents are look me, you know. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:45.760 What are we gonna do. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.840 Danielle, you are You are not that bad a driver, 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:51.440 you really are. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:51.800 No. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.760 I think you are aggressive, but you're not that big. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.840 That's of course I U I stop, it stops. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.480 I I but like the rules of the road, obey 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:05.520 the rules of the road. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.920 I just do it. Yeah, I do it quickly. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.760 And I think the following too close is something I 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.360 have done since I learned how to drive. And I 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.920 don't understand that when you are the appropriate distance away, 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.320 that to me, that just feels like people should be 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.960 mad at me, even though because I just I don't 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.600 realize that I'm as on top of people as I am. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.040 So Yeah, and I remember what the appropriate distance is. Yeah, 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.120 three car links. Well, depending on how must you're going. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:33.199 If you're every ten. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:39.880 Miles, you let a car pass a stationary object, and 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.560 then you count one Mississippi two Mississippian by two, you 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.600 can pass that same object. I think that's how it is. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.920 I'd be like a point four. Yeah, it'd be like 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.720 we crossed at the time. It's like it's like they're 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:53.240 towing me. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.680 I'm drafting. I'm drafting the car ahead of me. I 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:58.640 want the wind resistance. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:00.760 Welcome to podmeets World. 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.840 I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm Rider Strong, and I'm Wilfride. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:09.439 So when anyone from an entire generation sees a nineteen 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:13.640 nineties large gray brick cell phone, the technology that kicked 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.840 off an entire phenomenon, they only call it one thing, 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.480 a Zach Morris phone, and we have our guest to 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.280 think for that. He's an unforgettable pop culture Hall of 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.600 Famer who played the precocious Bayside High student for eighty 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.480 six episodes, a college spinoff, two movies, and a twenty 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.839 nineteen NBC reboot. You may also know him from four 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.640 seasons of Franklin and Bash. He was Bash for those 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:41.240 keeping Score at Home, almost ninety episodes of NYPD Blue, 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.679 or from Mixed Dish, or even his recent cameo on 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.720 one of the only shows I like watching on TV, Barry. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.200 This year, he was also seen on Will Trent, a 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.839 show that has been renewed for season two. And also 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:58.640 he has truly never stopped working ever. We are honored 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.599 to welcome the star of Save by the Bell, the 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.200 show Jensen, producer husband of this podcast calls his boy 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:19.679 Meets World. It's Mark Paul Gossler. Well, we were all 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:23.120 recently at a convention together and you were so lovely. 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:24.680 We spent a lot. I spent a lot of time 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.520 with you talking sports. We were you're a big sports guy. 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.480 Uh please answer this honestly. Do you know anything about 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.600 Boy Meets World at all? Did you were you? Did 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.079 you know maybe who we were? Did you think we worked. 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.400 At the con Listen? Is nothing against you, guys. I 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.280 didn't even know about say by the Bell. I mean, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.680 if if it wasn't for the reruns, I don't think 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:51.720 we'd be talking uh now, because yeah, when we did 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.400 our show, I felt like it was in a vacuum. Yeah, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.960 you know you we didn't have the Internet. The only 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.439 way that we knew we were successful. We would do 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.520 these like appearances in malls, or we would go do 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.560 a car show. You know, Comic cons weren't around, so 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.400 you didn't you didn't get to meet any fans that way. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.880 But we really we really operated in our own little bubble. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.160 Because I don't know about you guys. But after our seasons, 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.920 and there were multiple seasons, like if you add up 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.920 all the episodes, we did one hundred episodes, but over 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.240 the course of four years. But we do thirteen here 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.880 and maybe ten there. And I never had these full 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.920 seasons of like twenty two because we were a Saturday 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.600 morning show and I think it was just an experiment 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.959 for NBC. But after we were done, we'd go back 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.320 to our schools. I was in a public school at 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.720 the time, so it was the rest of the cast, 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:49.600 and no one really cared. I mean, people just thought like, oh, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.120 he's just an actor. Nobody watched the show. Nobody was like, oh, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.040 I saw you on that show, because at least my 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.440 show at that time, it was it wasn't the cool 0:13:58.480 --> 0:13:59.920 show to watch, Like, if you were cool, you were 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.840 watching nine o two and oh yeah, right right. But 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.120 our show, you know, we dealt with you know, caffeine pills. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.839 Don't get hooked on caffeine pills. Meanwhile, on nine o 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.720 two and oh, they were probably doing like Heroin, you know, 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.360 and that. Yeah, they were doing the cool stuff. And 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:20.560 so you know, I lived in normal existence as a child, 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:21.480 which was kind of cool. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:22.960 Yeah. Same. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.000 I had a very very similar experience, went to public school. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:27.640 Every week we had off. I was back in that 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.080 public school. Nobody really cared, and we've all talked about it. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.000 We felt like Ultimately, we felt like we were doing 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.920 a show kind of for our grandparents because they would 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.760 come to the live studio audience taping, so we know 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:37.800 they were watching it. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.800 But outside of that, it wasn't really to. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.120 A divide within our culture that I don't think is 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.320 there anymore between youth and grown up culture though too, 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.160 Like back then, like anything around kids, like even when 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.960 you think about it, like remember when boy bands, like 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.760 there was a way in which people were underestimating their value, 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:59.200 like yes, cause teenagers would love Backstreet and saying, but 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.840 like nobody realiz like, well that's those teenagers get older 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.360 and those are going to be the bands that they 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.480 listened to in their twenties. But it was not. It 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.640 was just like it was like a separate culture. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:09.840 You know. 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.080 It's like if somebod was for kids, it wasn't to 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.200 be taken seriously. It wasn't a moneymaker. It wasn't cool. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.400 And I think that's changed. I mean I'm assuming like 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.120 now it's like, well I'm now adults just love kids stuff. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.160 You know how many twenty five and thirty year olds 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.680 were listening to en Sync and Backstreet Boys with their 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.440 windows rolled up, trying not to really along, like they 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.720 didn't want anybody to know that they were singing along 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.720 with the music that was happening all the time too. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.160 Yeah, yea, I think I believe that was happening with 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.440 our shows as well. I mean there was nobody nobody 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.520 would would say that they you know, admit that they 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.760 watched Save by the Bell. Yeah, that was a Saturday 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.000 morning show. And now it's like a lot of athletes 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.400 and we go back to this, the sports talk is 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.240 that a lot of athletes will say, when we're on 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.440 the road, that's all we watched. That's all we that. 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:59.040 That was sort of like our familiarity, like our goodness 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.440 back to home of what we watch back home. But yeah, 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.480 it also you you talk about like the kids things. 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.960 But I felt like we had to stay in our lane. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.240 That's how, at least how I felt like. If you 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.560 were an actor and you did TV, you stayed doing TV. Yeah, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:18.960 and you didn't dare like nowadays. I mean, these kids, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:20.640 these kids, I sound like an old man. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.880 No, these young. 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.960 But it's true. The current generation, the current generation, I feel, 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.640 and rightly so gets to do so much more. And 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.760 good for them because I I I look back and 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.760 That's probably one of the biggest regrets is that I 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.560 didn't ask to do more. Like I was a bit 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.480 complacent in my career early on. I'm saying like, Okay, 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.080 I'm going to stay an actor. You don't you don't 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:54.200 do commercials, you don't do branding, you don't sing, you know, 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.640 and you definitely didn't do movies because you were a 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.840 young television actor. So it was like you didn't cross 0:16:58.840 --> 0:16:59.280 that line. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:01.760 But yeah, we had that same kind of thing because 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.199 when you were a Friday night show on TGIF, you 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.879 also weren't like we weren't. We were primetime, but we 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.080 weren't primetime. It was like a whole different thing where 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.400 you're on a kid's lineup and it's TGF. We were 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.639 not a Tuesday. It's like we talked to Jody Sweeten 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.600 and and uh Andrew Barber about how when they moved 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.520 to Tuesday, they were like, well, we're a real show now, 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.600 like we're getting we're leaving the Friday night lineup. We 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:26.439 all had that thing we were we were on a 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.000 kid's show, and it just we were we were put 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:30.720 in that kind of box all the time, which was 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.120 which was so strange. Yeah, yeah, because now we're the ones. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:35.760 I'm sorry, but there's a lot of those Tuesday night 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.159 shows where people don't care about them. When you go 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.359 to the cons and it's the you know, Saved by 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.160 the Bell, Boy Meets World. These are the shows that 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.199 the fans are still loving to this day, and they 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:46.679 don't remember what they were watching Tuesday night. 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:47.760 They have no idea. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:48.960 So it's so strange. 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.720 Mark, have you ever been recognized for Boy Meets World? 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:58.080 As anybody ever thought? Because I get recognized for I've 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.520 never on it, but people are like, you know, it's 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:01.720 like they could use shaken. 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:03.359 Yeah. Do you ever get mistaken? 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.080 It was like, oh that show with the kids in 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.000 high school, and like multiple times I just and I'm 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.080 always so happy because I could just say, nope, not me. 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.280 Don't know what you're talking about. I do what I 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.040 don't get. I think if I think back, maybe somebody 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.000 has said to me, you know, like, hey, where's the 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.800 panga right, you know, and I'm like, wrong show. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.600 She's on a different show, and she's which. 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.560 In itself is a whole another thing like when they 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:34.359 say hey, where's Kelly, it's like, uh, you know, the 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.520 inappropriate things in my head that are going through when 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.760 somebody says that I have to go no, no, no no, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.280 and then come out with, well, she's probably with her family, 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.120 you know, right and super appropriate nice. 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.600 It's like the terminator going through different possible responses before 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.000 you actually get. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.760