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Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded June twenty second, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I think it is very helping, very hard for people

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Speaker 2: to do, but especially Californians, to admit if you're a

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Speaker 2: bad driver. Oh yeah, why does everyone think that they're

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Speaker 2: the best driver in the world, Like, I am a

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Speaker 2: totally average, too bad driver. Like and it took me

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Speaker 2: a long time to come to terms with this, Like

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Speaker 2: when I was a teenager or in my twenties, I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, I'm amazing, you know, just good.

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Speaker 2: And then it's like, no, man, I like I beckon

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Speaker 2: to crap all the time. It's a serious Do you

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Speaker 2: not have a camera?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Of course I do? Now, so now okay, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: basically says I have a backup air. But I recently

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Speaker 2: hit a car out in front of my son's school.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's always parking. It'scept for like a real accident.

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Speaker 2: It's always like when I'm not paying attention this car

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Speaker 2: my wife in my wife's car, which is just the worst.

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Speaker 2: And her instant reaction, which is fair but you know,

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Speaker 2: not very supportive, is like, you know, it's not like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, you hit that car.

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Speaker 4: Oh writer, it was god German.

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Speaker 2: Writer just right there.

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Speaker 3: That would be my reaction to that would not.

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Speaker 2: Only did I scrape the front I crunch, but then

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Speaker 2: to pull out of the situation.

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Speaker 5: It's just did the double along the car double crunch.

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Speaker 2: But I gotta leave a note out it's my son's principle.

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Speaker 3: No, No, you crashed into.

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Speaker 2: Oh couldn't have been a better person. I love my

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Speaker 2: son's principle. He's like the nicest guy in the world.

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Speaker 2: So like, basically, if anybody at the school, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I just had visions of some horribly angry parent or

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Speaker 2: my son's bully, you know, like I could have gone

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Speaker 2: a million.

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Speaker 3: Son of a bully.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't good because I honestly I will go

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Speaker 1: kick that kid's ass.

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Speaker 2: She would, I would.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking to kick someone's ass. That sounds great, It's

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Speaker 1: funny you say that. I also am a second. That's yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm fine with that. No, obviously not. I

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Speaker 1: would never kick anybody's ass. H.

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Speaker 2: But can you admit where you are as a driver? Like,

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Speaker 2: can have you come?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I'm terrible because I am way too aggressive.

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Speaker 3: I drive too fast, too close, And.

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Speaker 5: I agree with everything she's saying right now. For her

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Speaker 5: I've now been since daniel and I have lived together,

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Speaker 5: lived near each other, lives in my bass.

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Speaker 2: Little tea, a little bit of tea. That's when I uh.

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Speaker 5: I've started to drive with Danielle a lot more because

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Speaker 5: she usually carpools. She we carpool. She's the driver. And

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Speaker 5: you're not a bad driver. You are just you do

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Speaker 5: you are? You are like you said, you're an aggressive driver.

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Speaker 3: Everyone out of my freaking way. Get out of my way.

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Speaker 5: You're not a bat. You're technically not a bad I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't technically be a professional race car driver, like.

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Speaker 2: You have good control of the via good control of

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Speaker 1: They probably have great measures, like I know exactly what

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Speaker 1: the measurements of driver really. I haven't mind any foenies lately.

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Speaker 1: Why are my favorite?

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Speaker 5: Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: Because because you're the person who thinks that that the

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Speaker 2: road belongs to them, correct, and that they have the right,

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Speaker 2: they have the right to be aggressive, and all these

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Speaker 2: idiotic drivers being safe and slow and follow what are

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Speaker 2: you doing? Yes, that's the problem, You're the problem. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I remember? Do you remember when you first disagree with

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Speaker 2: an s u V and you hydro planed on the

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Speaker 2: way to work.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't remember that horrible car accident where I

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Speaker 1: spun out in the center of the freeway with my car.

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Speaker 2: Like you got a Forerunner, you have a you have

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Speaker 3: Never Rider.

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Speaker 1: It was El Nino and imbrastling.

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Speaker 5: Danielle when we all hung out at Ryder's house up

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Speaker 5: on one day and driveway and you drove off the drive.

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Speaker 1: Off that driveway was a literal nightmare driver. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: Rider had us all over to his house. What year

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Speaker 3: I wasn't between two.

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Speaker 2: Thousand and five and two thousand and nine. That's when

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Speaker 2: I was looking canyon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so upwards of fifteen plus years ago. And Rider

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Speaker 1: had this super steep, curved driveway.

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Speaker 2: Always it was like a sand no matter where you like,

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Speaker 2: war right up and then an immediate act your.

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Speaker 5: New Rider was going to buy a house if there

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Speaker 5: was no parking or horrible parkings, like I'll take it, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Take it, that's the one I want.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those driveways when you're you're driving

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Speaker 1: up you can't see where you're going because the car

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Speaker 1: is so steep you can't see anything, so reversing down

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Speaker 1: it was also just terrible and I in the slow

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Speaker 1: reverse of it. I turned the wheel too soon and

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Speaker 1: dangling off a cliff over the curve.

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Speaker 2: It like looks over the edge of the curve and

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Speaker 2: a truck.

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Speaker 1: Nothing could be done. I was like, this is truly terrible.

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Speaker 5: Well, I live here now. I live here now with Rider.

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Speaker 5: That's what you say.

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Speaker 1: I had to wait for the triple A and off

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Speaker 3: It was just I was like, why do we let

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Speaker 3: Rider host the get together?

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Speaker 5: Seriously? Exactly we need? We need. That's what one of

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Speaker 5: the things I'll tell you I asked for when I

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Speaker 5: bought my house.

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Speaker 2: I needed parking.

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Speaker 1: Writer was the Writer was the most organized and the

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Speaker 1: most on top of making sure we got together. So

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Speaker 1: that's why they were always at Writer's house because Writer

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Speaker 1: was the person who thankfully got us all together.

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Speaker 5: The Writer was the adult. By the way, I'm a

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Speaker 5: phenomenal driver. For the record, are you yeah?

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Speaker 2: I actually believe that he never drives. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 5: I drive well again, I so we Driving was very

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Speaker 5: important in my family. So I started to learn how

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Speaker 5: to drive when I was like.

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Speaker 1: Twelve, right two years after you started smoking pretty much.

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Speaker 5: I had my cigarette and my car.

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Speaker 2: It was a Connecticut car, so you had to there

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Speaker 2: was no engine, was.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, it's a horse drawn car. No. My father what Famously,

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Speaker 5: when when I got my license and knew I was

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Speaker 5: going to have to start driving myself into New York

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Speaker 5: City for auditions, drove my stant. He drove down in

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Speaker 5: my Selica, which I still have. My first car is

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Speaker 5: still have my Toyota Celica. And he drove to the

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Speaker 5: got out of the car, put me in the driver's seat,

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Speaker 5: and said, all right, you're driving in New York. If

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Speaker 5: that point then he was right, I could drive anywhere.

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Speaker 2: My dad did the exact same thing. He picked me

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Speaker 2: up in a stick shift at school. It was like

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Speaker 2: he was and we had somewhere to go, like forty

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Speaker 2: drive stick shift he's like, hey, okay, figure it out.

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Speaker 4: YEP, I just did.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, I ever had a problem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I got my first motorcycle when I was ten, so

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Speaker 5: that I mean I started with kind of shifting when

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Speaker 5: from ten to what do your name?

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Speaker 3: You got your first motorcycle and you get a.

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Speaker 5: Mini bike like I got. I got a Z fifty

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Speaker 5: to an XR one hundred. My friends we all you know,

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Speaker 5: like Johnny and Karate Kid. We we were. We were

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Speaker 3: Che I just thought you were like fast and the

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Speaker 5: No, I was more slow and delibertous. It was, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it was. It was not exactly but no. But driving

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Speaker 5: my you know, my dad loves cars and all. Also

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Speaker 5: we were taught to and driving you have to drive

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Speaker 5: that was we had to know how to drive anything

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Speaker 5: to know how to drive immediately. I'm amazed he didn't

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Speaker 5: make us learn how to fly, just because that's how

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Speaker 2: Like Okay, do you guys remember, uh, well you probably

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Speaker 2: my manager when I was a teenager. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 2: thinking about these this bad driver situation, and the memory

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Speaker 2: came back to me, which was she was a horrible driver,

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Speaker 2: like the most terrified. Now a horrible driver in exactly

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Speaker 2: the way Danielle is a horrible driver, but like to

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Speaker 2: weave in and out of traffic, like do like crazy

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Speaker 2: I remember being eleven years old getting in the car

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Speaker 2: and the other kid being like, you know, you know, uh,

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Speaker 2: mister Toad's wild Ride at Disneyland. That's what it's like

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Speaker 2: driving in the car with him, and he was like

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Speaker 2: proud of the fact that he was this insane. And

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Speaker 2: I think about that now and I'm like, if if

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Speaker 2: I handed my kid over to a manager to drive

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Speaker 2: him around Los Angeles all the time. I mean I

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Speaker 2: drove with this guy all the time, every day to auditions.

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Speaker 2: I would spend weeks in la just with him without

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Speaker 2: my parents. Like I would be so pissed if a

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Speaker 2: person drove Indy like this. And yet at the time,

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Speaker 2: I thought we were the coolest car on the road,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I looked at him, It's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're willing to drive fast and cool and all these

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Speaker 2: other drivers are losers following the rules and the speed limits,

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Speaker 2: and you, my manager, are getting me everywhere. And like

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Speaker 2: if there's not a better like metaphor for the dangers

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Speaker 2: of child actor or the trust that you put in

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Speaker 2: adults around you when you were a kid, Like I

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Speaker 2: just thought like this guy and like now like I'm

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Speaker 2: genuinely angry at this person, Like I want to write

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Speaker 2: him a letter and be like, dude, what the hell

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Speaker 2: were you thinking? Like, yes, you we never got into

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Speaker 2: an accident, but we were so lucky and like what

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Speaker 2: and I what are the Like that is just infuriating

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Speaker 2: to me. And my parents were just like yeh, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I probably told him like he's a crazy driver,

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Speaker 2: and my parents are look me, you know.

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Speaker 3: What are we gonna do.

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Speaker 5: Danielle, you are You are not that bad a driver,

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Speaker 5: you really are.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: I think you are aggressive, but you're not that big.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to podmeets World.

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Speaker 5: I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm Rider Strong, and I'm Wilfride.

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Speaker 1: So when anyone from an entire generation sees a nineteen

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Speaker 1: have no memory of that.

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00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, and I do. And we've we found a

438
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 5: lot where I have no memory. But then when I

439
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 5: do have a memory, it's usually pretty clear and then

440
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 5: I can kind of branch it out to other memories

441
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 5: of things that happened that week. Yeah, I'm just a

442
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 5: bizarre memory's for me.

443
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: It's a clear set of priorities because I remember what

444
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 2: was happening in my personal life, and I remember like

445
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: what was going on in our relationships behind the scenes

446
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,199
Speaker 2: pretty clearly, but I have no idea what was in

447
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: front of the Yeah, the show's I just was phoning

448
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: it in by second season, like or just turning off

449
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 2: that part of my brain. It was like, this is

450
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 2: just the job. So yeah, no clue, that's very very weird,

451
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 2: do you, Mark, Paul No.

452
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 4: And and I've said this to some of my other

453
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 4: castmates as well as that and writer you hit it.

454
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 4: It was a job. And so I think if you

455
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 4: asked anyone in their careers what they did today at work,

456
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 4: they wouldn't know, but they might have an idea of

457
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 4: what they did for lunch because they met with a

458
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 4: friend exactly, they had a personal experience. But for us,

459
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 4: it was a job and and and yeah, it was

460
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 4: it was a blur. I don't know if I did

461
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 4: that to protect myself, because it was probably overwhelming for

462
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 4: that age to be in that environment and to be

463
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 4: doing what we were doing. But I do remember a

464
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 4: lot of like the relationship moments, and and actually I

465
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 4: remember a lot when we were on location because it

466
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 4: was a departure from a weird a weird space.

467
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it changes. Human beings are so adaptable that no

468
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 5: matter what you're doing, even if it's amazing to somebody else.

469
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 5: I mean, the last two men that walked in the

470
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 5: moon were up there for three days, and they said,

471
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,959
Speaker 5: by the third day, they were waking up like, oh,

472
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 5: we have a job to do today. We have to

473
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 5: do this, we have to do it, like they're going

474
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 5: by the checklist. It's like, dude, you're on the moon.

475
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 2: They don't. You just get used to it.

476
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 5: So it's like you're doing a show and one Tuesday

477
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 5: runs into another Tuesday and it's a rehearsal day and.

478
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: You don't know what is an amnesiac quality to sitcom

479
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: form in general too, It's like, because the whole point

480
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 2: of sitcom is that characters show up and do the

481
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: same thing that they did last week, right, and then

482
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: like learn their lesson, but they don't really come back

483
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 2: and do it again. So it's like the form lends

484
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 2: itself to like I mean, I remember feeling like, haven't

485
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 2: we done this a million? I remember these words exactly this,

486
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: and you just and that's part of the you know,

487
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: the sort of comic strip quality of sitcom. It's like,

488
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: you can't.

489
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 5: That's one of the reasons I'm convinced that sitcom is

490
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 5: no longer around those is because of streaming.

491
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: Exactly, you can't because binging.

492
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 5: You either forget the binge binging and streaming you can't

493
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 5: do that kind of just that we can do the

494
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 5: same story we did three weeks ago, and it's not

495
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 5: going to matter anymore. It doesn't work like that anymore.

496
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 2: No, it used to actually be essential because it was

497
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 2: a reminder of like, remember who these character, Let's reset

498
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: the situation so we can enjoy it. Now you're like, well,

499
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: you just watched it five seconds ago, the last episode,

500
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's really weird.

501
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: Well, we've talked a lot about how Boy Meets World

502
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: was a really great example of the messy eighties and

503
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: nineties sitcomcasting, where you would do a pilot and then

504
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden people would just be gone, and

505
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: then they need to bring in new people, or you

506
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: do a full episode or a full week and then

507
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: somebody's gone on the day of taping. You haven't even

508
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: crazier experience because you started with good morning, Miss Bliss

509
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: on Disney.

510
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 3: Do you remember auditioning for that and how old were you?

511
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 4: I believe I was twelve when I auditioned for that.

512
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 4: I remember auditioning for it because I had spent the

513
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 4: summer in Texas, in Harlingen, Texas, and I was going

514
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 4: to a Marine military academy. I wanted to go to

515
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: a Marine military academy for high school and I had

516
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 4: to go to this camp to basically be accepted. So

517
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 4: it was like a sort of like a boot camp.

518
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 4: And got back. My hair was really short. They obviously

519
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: buzzed it, and I was starting to grow out a

520
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: little and this is I'd been home now for a month.

521
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: I started grow out a little bit. My mom put

522
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 4: highlights in my hair, and the rest is history with

523
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 4: that character. But I remember auditioning for that, and I

524
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: remember Dustin Diamond being in the room with me. That's

525
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 4: the only other one that I remember, because I remember going,

526
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 4: if this kid isn't screech, I don't know who is right?

527
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: He was?

528
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 4: He was? He was incredible. But yeah, we did a

529
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 4: season of that, I think thirteen episodes, and then again

530
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 4: it was like, okay, we wrapped. We had a wrap

531
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 4: party and no word until they said, oh, we've We've

532
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 4: decided to, you know, spin it off into a show

533
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 4: called Saved by the Bell And we love the character

534
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: of Zach and we're going to take you and Lark

535
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 4: Vorhees and Dustin Diamond. We're going to put you in

536
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: a school in Pacific Palisades and we're gonna add some characters.

537
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 4: That was that. That wasn't easy to say goodbye to

538
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 4: the other cast mates, you know. Yeah, and our business

539
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 4: is like that. It's like, why didn't they cross over?

540
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: I have no idea. It was a decision that was

541
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: beyond my pay grade.

542
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, isn't that crazy though?

543
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: We talk about that all the time, and I think

544
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: we take it for granted because it's just how we

545
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: grew up. But like, that's a weird thing as a

546
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: team to go to work week after week And did

547
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: you have a fear then after that ever of like

548
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: it could be me next, Like did you ever? Yeah,

549
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: it's a weird feeling to just like every week you're like,

550
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: this could be the week I get fired.

551
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 4: I have that fear now. I mean it hasn't gone away.

552
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 4: I have the fear, you know that I'm going to

553
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 4: get fired off my show that I suck. That you

554
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 4: know that when they write up about it, they're the

555
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 4: only person they're going to say that sucks is me.

556
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: Put the blame on me. I mean that, I remember

557
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: my first time I was rejected. I mean that's basically

558
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: it is like you go for an audition, you know,

559
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 4: you just you don't get the job, and then you

560
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 4: have to explain, you know, why you didn't get the job,

561
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: and then a lot of the times there's no explanation.

562
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: You kind of have to just go, well, you know,

563
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 4: move on to the next thing. But I actually got

564
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 4: a commercial for Whammo and I was on the set

565
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 4: and yeah, I don't know. All I know is I

566
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 4: was fired and they sent me as a consolation, they

567
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 4: sent me a big box of Wammo toys.

568
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you're kidding me.

569
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, how old were you I was? I mean it

570
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 4: had to be before ten years old.

571
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: So when did you start acting?

572
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 4: I got my SAG card in eighty four, so I

573
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: was ten. But before that I was doing commercials. So

574
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 4: I started print work four years old, and then you know,

575
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: commercial and theatrical eventually when I was ten, when I started,

576
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: I think I did like Highway to Heaven and Punky

577
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: Bruister and things like that. But the good thing about

578
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: being fired off that commercial and it's a it's a

579
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: happy ending in some ways because we became friends and

580
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 4: sad and another. But it was Paul Walker that took

581
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 4: my that took took over for me, uh in that commercial,

582
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: and that was like my my arch nemesis, and we

583
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: were friends growing up. But he was like the more talented,

584
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: better looking guy. Like if you wanted a real California kid,

585
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 4: you went with Paul Walker. I mean he was just

586
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: a you know, a beautiful human being those eyes and

587
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: the hair and things like that, because I was just,

588
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 4: you know, in half an Aonesian half Dutch kid that

589
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 4: was acting like a California kid. But Paul was like

590
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: the epitome of like if you if if you couldn't

591
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 4: get Paul, we'll take Mark Paul. Now.

592
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 5: Wait, so that's a good question because I also had

593
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 5: a childhood rival who booked everything.

594
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: Did you really?

595
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, his name was Mike Moran, And the second

596
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 5: he would walk in, you'd be like, well I don't

597
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 5: need to be here anymore. Like this is he booked

598
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 5: every commercial he went out for it was like the

599
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan and the Tree how like every every single

600
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 5: thing he walked in, you knew you were done. So,

601
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 5: Danielle Ryder, did you have any childhood like you that

602
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 5: you saw this person in every audition he knew they

603
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 5: were going to book it.

604
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: Oh, it was always Elijah Wood for me. It was

605
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: like him and me just always came down to like

606
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: the two of us, or if I didn't get a part,

607
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: I would always find out it went to him and

608
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: Charlie Korsmo too. I lost, like, yeah, Charlie Korsmo only

609
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: did like three movies, but I was up for all

610
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: three of them. He just kept getting.

611
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 5: There and there are movies. Yeah, he had four or

612
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 5: five in a row there that way.

613
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did his three Disney films. You remember how

614
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: Disney used to if you did one film, they would

615
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: get a contract for all for three. That's how Disney worked.

616
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: And so he did his three Disneys and then left.

617
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: I think he got back into the industry later, but

618
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: but yeah, but Elijah Wood was the one who I

619
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: always felt good about losing a role too, because I

620
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: was like, well, he's so talented, Well this kid could

621
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: actually really act, Like I feel like I'm just making

622
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: it up, but he actually knows what he's doing.

623
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: No, I didn't really have that.

624
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean on Boy Meets World, I was the replacement,

625
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: so I was the nemesis.

626
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so you okay, you Lark, Dustin Diamonds.

627
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: Dustin diamond and Dennis Haskins are the only are the

628
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: only people who were brought back for this retooling as

629
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: Saved by the Bell. Do you remember if there was

630
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: any sort of like did they make anybody and maybe

631
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: you don't know, do you know if they made anybody

632
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: who had already had their part, like re audition like

633
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: try to do it again or did they just start

634
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: from scratch?

635
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? I all I know is what I've heard. I

636
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: think Elizabeth had auditioned for Tiffany's role, so the Kelly

637
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: and Jesse rolls, and then Lark's role of Lisa even

638
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: before you know, on Miss Bliss, it was supposed to

639
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: be like a like a Jewish American princess, like that

640
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 4: was her role. They were trying to find someone like that,

641
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 4: and then Lark just killed it because she was so talented,

642
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 4: so great, and they went with her. But yeah, I

643
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: think that the roles like Elizabeth was trying out for

644
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 4: Kelly and that didn't go her way, but they you know,

645
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: and yeah, Mario's role, I think they were looking for

646
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 4: like a Vinnie Barberino type. That's what he said, is

647
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: like you know that that sort of in that vein.

648
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: But he was so talented as well. I mean I

649
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: really felt on that show that I was that I

650
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 4: was the sandbag in it all, like the ballast that

651
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 4: could be thrown over because everyone was so talented, like

652
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: Mario was like a drummer and an athlete, like a

653
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 4: national champion wrestler and a dancer, and you know, Dustin

654
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: was funny, and Elizabeth was a dancer as well, and

655
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, it was it was. It

656
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: was a mess for me.

657
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 5: If we could talk very briefly about Dustin Diamond, because

658
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: he kind of pioneered that role, that role of like

659
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 5: I mean, he was Rkle before Erkele he was. I mean,

660
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 5: he kind of came in as that character and he

661
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 5: invented an entire kind of television trope. I mean, he

662
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 5: really did. It was. It was something especially as a

663
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: kid that I was watching where it was like the

664
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: kind of so wacky Clowney. It's it's I know people

665
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 5: are gonna be like, you've got to be me when

666
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 5: you make this comparison. But if there's something false staff

667
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 5: about I mean, there's something almost Shakespearean about the character

668
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 5: where it is the kind of he's not really bullied,

669
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 5: but he's the he can come into a bad situation

670
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 5: make everybody laugh. And so I just if you could

671
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 5: talk a little bit about that, because there there are

672
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 5: so many characters now that are kind of based on that,

673
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 5: and it seemed like he was the first, and I

674
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: frankly don't think he gets nearly enough credit for what

675
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 5: he's done in the history of television when you really

676
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 5: look at it that way.

677
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, no, I never really looked

678
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 4: at it that way because how I felt about my

679
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: character when I when I read the script, and because

680
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: Zach was talking to the camera, I was immediately drawn

681
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: to Ferris Bueller, and I was like, oh, well, I

682
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 4: get to play Ferris Bueller. This is amazing. And so

683
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: I guess Dustin's character would have been the Cameron the camera. Yeah,

684
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: in in a way, but even more goofy in a way.

685
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: And and and yeah, you just play I mean and

686
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: that's the thing like seeing dustin in the audition room.

687
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: It's like, that's that because you read a script in

688
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 4: your in your mind's and you sort of like you

689
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: try to put the pieces together who that could be,

690
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: who's out there that can that can play that role,

691
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: and then you actually see it and he just embodied

692
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: that character. I mean I and and producers and writers

693
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: will always say this is that they have an idea

694
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 4: of what a character should be in, but when you're

695
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: on set, they start writing for you. And they just

696
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: started writing for his strengths. And he was so good

697
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: at physical comedy at such a young age, like some

698
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: of the things that he used to do. And we

699
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: always laugh about that is like we had no stunt

700
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: coordinators on Saved by the bel ever like nowadays. If

701
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: for instance, I was I was on a show for

702
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 4: for Disney and my wife on the show had to

703
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: hit me with her purse and I had to fall

704
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 4: to my knees.

705
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 5: Yep.

706
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: It was like, I mean, they had a stund.

707
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: Danny Wayne was there for you, Oh.

708
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: My god, exactly.

709
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: They had They had knee pads on me. They had

710
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: an armadillo backpack just in case I fouled backwards pads

711
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: on the floor. They had to teacher how to throw

712
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: a purse, and I remember my uh my wife on

713
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: that show is Tika Sumpter. She's like, just give me

714
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 4: the purse and she liked the place hits me. I

715
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 4: fall down and know we use that, but they were

716
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: they were in shock. They're like, oh my gosh, you

717
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: can't do that. Yeah, you guys okay. But on Save

718
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: by the Belt, I mean people always ask me about that,

719
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: that scene between Mario and I where we fight and

720
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: he actually throws me over and like uh and and

721
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 4: punches me on the ground, and that was like real.

722
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 4: I mean Mario was a was a champion wrestlers. Yeah,

723
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: he kicked me. He literally kicked my ass. There was

724
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: no stunt people on set and there was nobody. There

725
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: was no coordinators. It's like in the script it says

726
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: they fight, and so they said, what do you guys

727
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: feel like doing. Mario goes, I'm gonna do this. It

728
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: puts me on my back and starts punching me.

729
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, we also very much the same thing. We've talked

730
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: about it.

731
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: We've seen a few little things where were like, wow,

732
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: that was like a that was real. He really kicked you,

733
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, yeah, I think we used to

734
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: do all of those back then.

735
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 4: We were.

736
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: On fire today like all right, let's go.

737
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a super Bowl episode where I jump on

738
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: Ben's back and then he flings me off and I

739
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: go flying across the kitchen and the people have commented like,

740
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: how did you do that?

741
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: Or it looks so real? What did you land on?

742
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: It was like, oh no, I just just got thrown

743
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: to the ground.

744
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fine.

745
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: Yes, So eventually Elizabeth Berkeley and Tiffany and berthisa and

746
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: left the show in the final season. Did you ever

747
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: have the fear that you were forever going to be

748
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: just Zach Morris And how did you so successfully overcome that?

749
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: I'm asking for three friends.

750
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: Again. Yes, I was very worried about that and watching

751
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 4: Tiffany and watching Elizabeth go off. You know, you don't

752
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 4: know when the right moment would be, and I totally

753
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 4: respected their decision and was behind it. I didn't feel

754
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: I would have a problem with being typecast because I

755
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: was playing this character. I wouldn't. I didn't look like

756
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: Zach in my personal life, you know, I'd have to

757
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: sit in the chair every two weeks and get my

758
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 4: hair dyed. And it was a character that I thought

759
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 4: I was playing. But yeah, you're people in the industry

760
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 4: and people outside of the industry who watch the show,

761
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: they see you as that character, and even to this day,

762
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 4: people are like, oh, wait, where's your blonde hair?

763
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: Right?

764
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, that was that was fake. Did

765
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: you not notice, like season of season it was a

766
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: different color every season, Like there is nothing on a

767
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 4: driver's license that you could check to say what color

768
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 4: that was. Yeah, it's like a it's a weird leopardy thing,

769
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 4: platinum blonde. So for me, I didn't think I would

770
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: have an issue because it was that character that I created.

771
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: But those three years after it was really really hard,

772
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: and I had a really hard time breaking out of

773
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: that character because I'd walk into the room and it

774
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: would call for you know, this California kid, And again

775
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 4: we talked about this, like Paul Walker was kid, I

776
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: was not, And so I'd walk in and you know,

777
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: where's your hair? You look like you look nothing like

778
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 4: Zach and it's like yeah, yeah, And it took about

779
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 4: three years for me to sort of get the opportunity,

780
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: and I remember it was for a a movie of

781
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: the Week. Do they even do those anymore? No, unfortunately,

782
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: But it was a Movie of the Week for NBC

783
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 4: opposite Cameron Burret. Yeah, and I played a pretty despicable

784
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: character and that sort of broke that broke me out

785
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 4: of that role for a while, or the Zach Morris

786
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: image for a while. But we still get it. I mean,

787
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 4: in comic cons people will always say, like, you know,

788
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: I like you better as a blonde, like oh okay,

789
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: oh yeah nice.

790
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: Yes, yes people. Yeah, people don't think that there.

791
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: They think they're just saying facts or but they don't

792
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: realize that sometimes the thing that the comments they make

793
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: are actually hurtful.

794
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: They don't tend to be, but they can be.

795
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were shocked when you

796
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: did a bit on Jimmy Fallon in two thousand and

797
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: nine for many reasons. Number one, you showed the world

798
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: that you didn't look a day older than you did

799
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: on Bayside High at Base I had.

800
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: Help, I had help, did you well? So I remember

801
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 4: that because I was promoting a show that I was

802
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 4: on called Raising the Bar for Stephen Botchko, and I

803
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: remember we were going to do the press tour, you know,

804
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: for the launch of the show, and they said, oh,

805
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 4: we want you to do Fallon. I was like, oh,

806
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: that's great, and I knew that Fallon, you know, with

807
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 4: his background at SML and they and his show was

808
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 4: relatively new at that time, but they were doing skits

809
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 4: and having fun on the show. Wasn't just like your

810
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: your typical late night paradigm. So I remember talking to

811
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 4: the producer and asking if I could come on the show,

812
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: because that's when things were people were trying to find

813
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: things that went viral, and when they went viral, it

814
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: was you know, obviously like a lot of a lot

815
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 4: of looks, and I was thinking, how can we I'm

816
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 4: not a very viral guy, Like, there's nothing that I

817
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 4: do that people are gonna be like, oh gosh, I

818
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 4: can't believe he did that. But I thought, what could

819
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: I do? And and that came up, and as a

820
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: thought was to go on his show as Zach Morris.

821
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 4: And I remember talking with either Jimmy or one of

822
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 4: his producers, but they said, oh, we love that idea,

823
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 4: but then we'll cut to a commercial and you'll come

824
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 4: back and you'll be Mark Paul. And I said, no,

825
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 4: I want to do the whole thing as Zach Morris,

826
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: never breaking character, and I want to say, like, you know,

827
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: Zach Morris, I'm the real Zach Morris. Mark Paul Gosler

828
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 4: is my stage name on SAG, because there was already

829
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 4: a Zach Morris, and I'm on this new show raising

830
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: the Bar. And you know, I wanted to play because

831
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: everybody would call me Zach anyway, so I'm gonna I'm

832
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 4: gonna play into that. They all think, name this character,

833
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: so let's do it. And so what I say is

834
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 4: why I had help looking young is because I scrambled

835
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: to find a wig like Zach Morris, because obviously my

836
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 4: hair wasn't like that. So I was wearing a wig.

837
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: I scrambled all over the valley looking for this wig.

838
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 4: Finally founded at this professional wig maker, but it was

839
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: two sizes too small. So I put it on and

840
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: I was like, it looks great. Let's go, and I

841
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: hopped on a flight, went to Yes. I went, and

842
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: so when I put it on, it gave me a

843
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 4: complete facelift. It looked amazing. I had no wrinkles in

844
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: my forehead, my eyes were pulled back. I looked youthful.

845
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 4: I was like that.

846
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: So that's why the name of the wig maker.

847
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna need that.

848
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 4: So they pulled everything back and it came out exactly

849
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: how I wanted it to. We had a we had

850
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: a great time, and then when the whole cast joined in,

851
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: that was even better. And uh and and you know,

852
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 4: I think I think Jimmy is or she responsible for

853
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: why there was such a desire to do a reboot

854
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: of the show.

855
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: Wow, man, I cannot believe that was your idea to

856
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: do that fallon bit.

857
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: That's so smart. That's so smart and so cool.

858
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: And it was awesome because also working with one of

859
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: his producers, Mike Decenzo was the guy that was the

860
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: producer writer on the show, and he was a he

861
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: was an adamant fan of the show and was like

862
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 4: an encyclopedia uh for it. And I said, I wanted,

863
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: I want to be married to Kelly, I want to

864
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 4: talk about my s A T scores, I want to

865
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 4: talk about certain things. And so he was able to

866
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 4: plug those and it was an eleven page script that

867
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: that we did and it turned out great. And Jimmy

868
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 4: is just so good and so funny and such a

869
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: great person to bounce these things off of. We had it.

870
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 4: We had a really good time. I do it again

871
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 4: in a heartbeat.

872
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: That's so cool.

873
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: A lot of fans you even mentioned at A lot

874
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: of fans focus on the caffeine pills episode or the

875
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: zach attacks, But I really want to know more about

876
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: one particular tag you guys all did for an episode

877
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: called No Hope with Dope. Movie star Johnny Dakota visits

878
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: the school to shoot an anti drug PSA, but then

879
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: they see him smoking marijuana at a house party.

880
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: They see smoke.

881
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: He's doing a jail Joe doing a j smoking the marijuana.

882
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: At the end of the episode, the cast appears in

883
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: character with the NBC network president at the time and

884
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: a truly terrible actor, Brandon Tartakoff. It was a say

885
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: not to drugs commercial scene where it's a postmodern fourth

886
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: wall explosion, And I just want to ask you, what

887
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: do you remember about shooting that?

888
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: Do you remember it at all?

889
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: I don't remember it. By looking back, I can only

890
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: imagine that I was thinking, like, God, I hope they

891
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 4: don't smell weed on me at this point.

892
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking.

893
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't a big I wasn't a big marijuana type guy.

894
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: But but you were older.

895
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: But yeah, we were older. And I would say that

896
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 4: since sixteen I was in clubs in LA. I mean

897
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 4: it was. I mean, thinking back to that's so weird

898
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 4: to think of, Like if I saw a sixteen year

899
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 4: old in a club. Now, when I see a sixteen

900
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: year old in a restaurant, I'm like, what are you

901
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 4: doing here? Yeah? It feels weird, right, I mean, I

902
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: mean a club with other actors, young actors from the

903
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 4: time I don't want to throw anybody on the bus

904
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 4: with some pretty big names. Now and we're in bar one,

905
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 4: we're at the Roxbury. I remember being taken to my

906
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 4: first club by Sleigh Moon and Fry when I think

907
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: I was thirteen. We went to like this this club

908
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: in LA that was fourteen jeans.

909
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: I remember that under I never went to it, but

910
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot about it, this like teen club

911
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: that existed that a lot.

912
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, but it wasn't I was. I was a kid,

913
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: I remember, I was. And I really lived in a

914
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 4: in a bubble. I lived outside of the city. I

915
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: lived in Valencia, which is outside of Los Angeles. For

916
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: anybody that knows, it's it's sort of like a planned community,

917
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 4: a lot of track homes and things like that. But

918
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: my upbringing, my mother would listen to to k Earth

919
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: one oh one and it was like a lot of

920
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: like Elvis and Ella Fitzgerald and you know, Fats Domino

921
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 4: and stuff, and so that was my musical uh education.

922
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 4: And so I'm I remember before like Slay's like, we're

923
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 4: gonna meet at this club. We're gonna go to a club.

924
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: That's what it was called Ballistics at the Roxy?

925
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: Is that what it was called the Tea Club?

926
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was the place above the Roxy

927
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: because there was also like on the Rocks, which was

928
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: like the little club. I remember going there for birthday

929
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: parties and stuff. But okay, but Ballistics was like.

930
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: The name of the teen club. Yeah, it was like

931
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: the team one Ballistics.

932
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 4: But I remember like being so anxious of not knowing

933
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: like current music, and I'm thinking, like, oh, I hope

934
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: they play Elvis at this place, because then I could

935
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: kind of I could sing along or dance along, you know,

936
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: if they're playing Like I walk in and they're playing

937
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 4: two Live Crew and all the guys are on one side,

938
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 4: all the girls are on the other side, and they're singing, Hey,

939
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: we want some right right, And on the other side,

940
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 4: the girls are going, hey, we want some dic K

941
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm thirteen, and this is what this

942
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: was my exposure.

943
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: You're like, where's the Ella Fitzgerald Room?

944
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, this Elvis never sung about.

945
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: That was my exposure to the LA night scene. And

946
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 4: then cut to three years later where I'm on my

947
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: own show and you're let into these clubs and then

948
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: we're doing a psa of don't you know, there's no

949
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: hope of dope, which was fine with me because I

950
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 4: could I could say that I wasn't a really big

951
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: dope guy, right, So my thing was maybe to have

952
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: a few like light beers or whatever. Yeah, I'm sort

953
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: of sugarcoating that, but you know the the for those listeners.

954
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: But yeah, we were just it was it was a

955
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: different time and again there was no social media, so

956
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: you could just be a kid and your lessons. And

957
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 4: by the time I was nineteen, I was over it.

958
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 4: I was done. I didn't want to do it anymore.

959
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 4: And I just feel like that that's sort of lost

960
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: for some of these kids that are growing up in

961
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: this industry now, is that they're just they can't experiment

962
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 4: with somebody having an opinion about everything that they do.

963
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: So it's terrifying. Your kids are. How old are you

964
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: have two older kids?

965
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: I have a nineteen year old and a seventeen year old.

966
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: I can't I mean, it has to be so scary

967
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: to be the parent of a nineteen and a seventeen

968
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: year old right now, with just all the things you're

969
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: talking about, because I think about it all the time,

970
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: how lucky we were that we barely got by.

971
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: We were the last little bit of the.

972
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: Generation that didn't have to deal with that, with the

973
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: constant pressure of everything you say and think being put

974
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: immediately onto the internet, and then every single one of

975
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: those thoughts and opinions and you know whatever being judged immediately.

976
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: I just, oh, my gosh, I can't even imagine it.

977
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: So how do you deal with that with your kids?

978
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I'm not on social anymore. I

979
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 4: took myself off about a year and a half ago.

980
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: I just couldn't do it. I feel like I have

981
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 4: pretty thick skin, but honestly, it's just like even that's

982
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: an effort to have thick skin, right, So it's like,

983
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 4: why why even deal with it? So I took I

984
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: took myself off and how we deal with it With

985
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 4: the kids, I've just been blessed, I think with some

986
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: really good kids. I mean I have a pretty good

987
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 4: relationship with my kids. You know, I still go to

988
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 4: better every night and think that I could do better

989
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: and be better. It's just a thing as a parent,

990
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 4: I think you do. It's like you never feel like

991
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 4: you're getting it right, and you know there's there's there's

992
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 4: so many different ways and and and and avenues that

993
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 4: you can take and it's like are you doing the

994
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 4: right thing, and you just you just never know. But

995
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: with my my two older ones, they're they're they're good

996
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: that way. They have a strong identity. I don't think

997
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: they're on. I mean, my my daughter checks out her

998
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 4: social a little bit, but I don't think she's she's

999
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 4: tied to it and and that that is not her identity.

1000
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: She's really into art and my my son is really

1001
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 4: into music. And yeah, I I I would say limit

1002
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 4: the social and and uh, you know, if you could

1003
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: take it away, I would do it, and a heartbeat,

1004
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 4: I would wipe it all away. Yeah, because I just

1005
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: don't see the good and for especially for younger people

1006
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 4: to be on it.

1007
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: Well, I watched I saw a video of you not

1008
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: that long ago, so it was obviously from you said

1009
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: you got off at a year and a half ago,

1010
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: but I thought it was it was one of the greatest,

1011
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: one of the greatest videos I had ever seen on

1012
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: like TikTok or Instagram or wherever it was. But you

1013
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: were talking about I think your daughter, one of your

1014
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: younger kids. You had picked up and they had had

1015
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: like a bad day and they were kind of in

1016
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: a bad mood, and you had her do something your

1017
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: mom used to have you do, which was pick an

1018
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: orange and peel an orange. Like she was peeling an orange.

1019
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: That's something about the activity of actually having to peel

1020
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: the orange. And then she was walking behind you in

1021
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: the video and like walked up and said she had pooped.

1022
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 2: She was no, I'm not.

1023
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: My producer husband just asked me, are you making this up?

1024
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: It was one hundred percent you and you had this cute,

1025
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, this cute little girl with you was like

1026
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: walking and talking in the background. Who walked up and

1027
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: then it was like, what's that you pooped your pants? Okay, great,

1028
00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: but it.

1029
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 2: Was the video, how yeah, did this actually happen?

1030
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 4: Because it seems like I almost I almost feel like

1031
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: this is Vanderbik.

1032
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: Maybe James Vanderby.

1033
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: I think it might be Vandibek.

1034
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: I think it is Vanderbeek. Is it Vanderbeek?

1035
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god's James Vanderbek.

1036
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm just realizing right now it was totally

1037
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: James vanderbe Happy that just happened.

1038
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: And I am so happy as well, because I like,

1039
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 4: I watched Vanderbeek's videos every once in a while, like

1040
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: I'll see a pompa. My wife will say, because we're friends,

1041
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: we're acquaintances. And I think he has like six kids.

1042
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 4: So yeah, the.

1043
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: Reasons I thought it was you was because there were

1044
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of kids, and I was like, oh,

1045
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: I just met Mark Paul.

1046
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: He's got a bunch of kids like that.

1047
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 4: That's totally Vanderby, And I think Vanderbeek actually we had

1048
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 4: the same RV. We actually had the exact same RV,

1049
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 4: and at some point he was like spending a lot

1050
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: of time. I don't know if he was living out

1051
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 4: of that RV or what, but I would see the

1052
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 4: chaos behind him. So that does that does sound like

1053
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: a Vanderbeek moment where.

1054
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 3: It wasn't our. It was like a lot.

1055
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: They were on like a lot of land, like on

1056
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: a farm or something. And I was like, yeah, this

1057
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: that's with everything you just told me.

1058
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: You did it.

1059
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: You did it well.

1060
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: If you want to call me Winnie Cooper, you know,

1061
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: if you want to do any of that to me,

1062
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: it's just totally fine.

1063
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: I will accept any of it.

1064
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: This is my favorite day. It will cry no.

1065
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 4: And that's the thing. I've never put my kids on

1066
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 4: on on social I'm I'm pretty protective that way. I

1067
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 4: think we take photos, but they're from a distance. And

1068
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: this is when I was on it, and I would

1069
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 4: only take photos if like we were gifted a trip

1070
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: to you know, Universal studios, you have to do the

1071
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: obligatory photo, but that'd be far away. And I I'm

1072
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I don't judge. Like I know, there's

1073
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: a lot of people that that put their kids on

1074
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: It's just not for me. I remember one time, very

1075
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: early on, uh in my son's life, we went to

1076
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 4: a h and my son's name is Michael, who's now seventeen.

1077
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 4: But we went to a function and somebody took a

1078
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 4: photo of us and in like one of the comments,

1079
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: it was, you know, and at that time it was

1080
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 4: only like People magazine or you know, there would be

1081
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 4: very specific and limited press that would run these things.

1082
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 4: But under the comments it was like, what's wrong with

1083
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: his smile? And I was like, that's it, that's it.

1084
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 4: Never never doing this again. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not

1085
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: going to build my kids out there.

1086
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: It was one of the Yeah, main it was one

1087
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: of the first decisions I made when Jensen and I

1088
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: had kids.

1089
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 3: We talked about it.

1090
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: It was like, man, and I knew even before Adler

1091
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: was born, how hard it.

1092
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 3: Was going to be.

1093
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: Because is there anything in the world that you love

1094
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: more or want to show off or brag about more

1095
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: than your children. You they are They bring you so

1096
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: much joy that you just can't imagine that the even

1097
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: if they even bring you a fraction of the joy

1098
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: they bring me, I want to share that joy with you.

1099
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: And it was it was a hard decision to make,

1100
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: and I, like you said, I do not judge anybody.

1101
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I look at people who

1102
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: post their kids and I think, man, they do it well,

1103
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: or that looks really great, or you know, I'm I

1104
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: wish I could do that.

1105
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 3: I just it's just not for me, and you know

1106
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: we we haven't done it either.

1107
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 1: I used to post things when they were first born,

1108
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: like with an emoji over their face, and then people

1109
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: would be like, well, if you're not going to show

1110
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: your kid like, don't even just don't do it at all.

1111
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: And I eventually read that and I was like, you

1112
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: know what, You're kind of right, like I'm trying to

1113
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: get this feeling of like I'm sharing my life with you,

1114
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: but I have an emoji over's face, so it does

1115
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: what I want, but also what you want, which is sharing.

1116
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: And then people are like that doesn't make us happy,

1117
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: and so I was like, okay, I just now don't

1118
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: really post much about my kids, or I'll post them

1119
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: from behind or whatever.

1120
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, also there's also the risk of backlash, which

1121
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: I'm encountering now. Just you know, my son's eight and

1122
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: it's like the forbidden fruit. All he wants is to

1123
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: be posted. He's like, Dad, can I post a video?

1124
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 4: Can I?

1125
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, so, I know, like in

1126
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: a weird way, I need to figure out how to

1127
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: allowing account. Yeah I don't. Well, yeah we have that

1128
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: like within our family, you mat.

1129
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well not even just that because then friends could

1130
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: follow it too, so that he gets the like the

1131
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: dopamine hit of seeing like will or I leave a comment,

1132
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, like where because we have a he has.

1133
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: To be in cancer right right? Like what he was

1134
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 2: like sticks, he would say, Dad, you know, if we're somewhere,

1135
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: he'd be like dead film me and I turn on

1136
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: the camera and he'd be like, hey, guys. I'm like,

1137
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: who's guys all just and we've never I've never allowed

1138
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: him to watch a YouTube video. So he's just absorbed

1139
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: it from the culture like that that influencer like speak

1140
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: that like talk to the camera, walk and talk like

1141
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: he just has it and it's just part of their

1142
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: culture now. So he just wants to participate in it.

1143
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

1144
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: I've told him because he's been making a lot of

1145
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: stop motion movies and I'm like, look, maybe we could

1146
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: post those like you know, you will post your work

1147
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 2: right until the criticism starts coming in. Mark.

1148
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but one of the greatest

1149
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 5: days of my recent history was deleting all of my

1150
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 5: social media. I woke up the next day and I

1151
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 5: felt so good. It was a visceral weight that had

1152
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 5: been lift where it was just like, I mean, it

1153
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 5: was wonderful to just not have it in my life anymore.

1154
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 5: It really was. It was phenomenal.

1155
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 2: Loved it.

1156
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 4: Did you delete all your content and your name or

1157
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: do you still have the account?

1158
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: No?

1159
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 5: I deleted everything, no account, no everything. And I didn't

1160
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 5: say anything to anybody. Deleted, Twitter, deleted. I just woke

1161
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 5: up one day and it was gone, and it was great.

1162
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 4: See, and I still have my account up. There was

1163
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 4: a moment where I only had like four pictures up

1164
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 4: on Instagram because I woke up one day and was like,

1165
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 4: I'm deleting everything, and I deleted the content on it,

1166
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 4: and I think, you're like, followers go to zero. But

1167
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 4: I still kept my name, okay, and I'm still reluctant

1168
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 4: to just because I'm thinking somebody's gonna pick up my name,

1169
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 4: so I'm trying to just hold on to that. Plus

1170
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 4: my Twitter handle, because I joined Twitter so early, is

1171
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 4: at MPG, which I'm thinking is a pretty damn good

1172
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 4: Twitter and I kind of want to just hold on

1173
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 4: to it, but I don't. I don't. I'm never on it,

1174
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't check it, so yeah, I don't know.

1175
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what to do because

1176
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 4: I want It's great. I want to keep my stuff.

1177
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, just hold onto it.

1178
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 5: Just want to keep my stuff.

1179
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: Before we let you go.

1180
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: I want to give a little shout out to a

1181
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: friend of mine and my husband's, Dashel Driscoll, who had

1182
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: a rewatch podcast with you well before we ever had

1183
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: one occult favorite, Zach to the Future, that many of

1184
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: our listeners wish was still around when you agreed to.

1185
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: Do the show.

1186
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: What scenes were you immediately the most scared to see again,

1187
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: because we the three of us, have all had moments

1188
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 1: where we go, oh God, I don't I'm already dreading

1189
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: watching that episode, or I'm already be dreading that scene

1190
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: that's coming up. What were yours looking at when when

1191
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: you first started the podcast?

1192
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 4: Pretty much any scene that I was in, I just

1193
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 4: I don't like watching myself, so to have to rewatch

1194
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: that was torture. And I would say it all the

1195
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 4: time on our podcast. It was my idea to do

1196
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 4: this podcast, but it was I didn't realize how tortuous

1197
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 4: it would be for me to have to watch my

1198
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 4: work back. Because there's nothing you can do. You can't

1199
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 4: go back and say, oh, I had like another take,

1200
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 4: like to redo that, Like that sucked, let's do it again.

1201
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 4: And then realizing like everyone else on the show was

1202
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 4: more talented than me, at least in my perspective. Right

1203
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: from my view that too, I was like, oh, but

1204
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: in terms of like storylines, the one that I think

1205
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 4: we had to be most well, there was a few.

1206
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 4: There was. There was one where I was basically houring

1207
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: out Lisa Turtle, you know, to like charge people to

1208
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 4: kiss her without her consent. Oh god, that was That

1209
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 4: was a that was a tough one, which we had to,

1210
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: you know, preface the episode by saying, we do not

1211
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 4: condone this. We're just we're here just to to uh

1212
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 4: discuss it, but this is in the past. The other

1213
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 4: one was where Zach Morris claimed that he was Native

1214
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 4: American and we didn't know how.

1215
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: And did you you there's no way you remembered these either, right,

1216
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: Like you just kind of stumble into them and you go.

1217
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, seeing Zach Morris in a

1218
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: full head dress and oh yeah. And so that was

1219
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 4: that was one we had to be a little sensitive on.

1220
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 4: There's just things that you just would not film. Now

1221
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 4: you know, there's things I've talked about this with breck

1222
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 4: and Meyer, who's a we're still very close friends and

1223
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: probably talk every week, And we talked about Franklin and Bash,

1224
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: which is only ten years ago, and there's things on

1225
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 4: Franklin and Bash we would never be able to shoot

1226
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 4: now and rightfully so, which is inappropriate. It's you know,

1227
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 4: we've evolved as human beings, but there are things every

1228
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 4: single episode that we could pick out that that we

1229
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 4: would you know, you find yourself at that point. You're

1230
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 4: trying not to be negative, right, it's a it's a

1231
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 4: watch party. People want you to celebrate the product. So

1232
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 4: we had to. We we had to.

1233
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: It was a fragile Yeah, it's a tightrope walk, correct,

1234
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: But overall you're trying to be positive about the work

1235
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: and say that.

1236
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 4: Was a different time. Yeah, we don't condone that now,

1237
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: but this is what it was, and enjoy Yeah.

1238
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: People also don't mind you acknowledging it.

1239
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: But then they also they don't want to hear it

1240
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: brought up every time and in the next scene when

1241
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: there's something else, like let's talk about it again, it's

1242
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: like blanket statement. This shouldn't have existed, but it does,

1243
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: we don't condone it. Moving on, let's actually just talk

1244
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: about the rest of the rest of the episode. We

1245
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: have learned that lesson as well.

1246
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 5: So sometimes harshly, we've sometimes harshly learned that lesson, but

1247
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 5: we've learned.

1248
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 3: We've learned.

1249
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: So looking back now with two of your children being

1250
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: older or than you were when you were on Saved

1251
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: by the Bell, how do you feel this many years

1252
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: later looking back at your time as Zach Morris.

1253
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 4: Well, and you just brought up that my kids are

1254
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 4: older than I was when I started the show. I

1255
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 4: am also ten years older than mister Belding was when

1256
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 4: he started the show.

1257
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: Oh man, oh yeah, my no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1258
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I need you to repeat that you are

1259
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: ten years older than Dennis.

1260
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 4: Has to get more than ten years older. I think

1261
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 4: Dennis started the show and he was either thirty six

1262
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 4: or thirty seven?

1263
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 3: Was that Miss bliss Ard Saved by the Bell?

1264
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: Miss bliss Okay, but I think I brought it up

1265
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 4: on our podcast for Saved by the Bell, So I

1266
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 4: think at that point at Saved by the Bell, he's

1267
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 4: still ten years younger than I was at this moment

1268
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 4: on Save by the bell. Oh my gosh, yeah, I

1269
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 4: let that sit in, guys, yep, let that soakright in.

1270
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 5: I've only been to two strip clubs in my entire life,

1271
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 5: and the first one I was dragged to was the

1272
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 5: Crazy Horse.

1273
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: And I get a top of my shoulder and it

1274
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: was mister Belding.

1275
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 4: Oh well listen, but he he was. I mean, but

1276
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 4: I gotta understand, this is a guy who was in

1277
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: his late thirties. You know, It's like, yeah, of course

1278
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: he'd be, and he's he's on television at the point.

1279
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 4: At that moment, it's like, of course.

1280
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 5: This is this crazy horse in Vegas.

1281
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

1282
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 4: He was known for doing karaoke at a place called Dimples.

1283
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 3: Oh I know. I've ran into him at Dimples many times.

1284
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dimples was awesome.

1285
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: Are you kidding?

1286
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know you would. You wouldn't expect to

1287
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 4: see the principal a crazy horse.

1288
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, I was not expecting to see it.

1289
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: It was.

1290
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 4: It was.

1291
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 5: It was odd, but I was.

1292
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: Like, oh, okay, hi, how you doing.

1293
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 5: And he recognized you will it was I think I was,

1294
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 5: of course with Marsden, and I think he recognized Jason,

1295
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 5: so he came over to talk to Jason, and then

1296
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, hey, this is an odd combination

1297
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Speaker 5: of people here, grey of you. Oh my god, very strange.

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Speaker 1: One last question, because talking hearing you talk about Dennis

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Speaker 1: made me think about it. Are you particularly close to

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Speaker 1: anybody from the Saved by the Bell cast? Are you

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Speaker 1: guys still regularly in touch or have you all just

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously we all have our own lives and

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Speaker 1: do different things and move on. Or are you like

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Speaker 1: actually close to anybody in particular.

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Speaker 4: I think the closest out of the show that I'm

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Speaker 4: that we have the closest relationship is probably Tiffany only

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Speaker 4: because her husband Brady and I really enjoy each other's company.

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Speaker 4: We're into a lot of the same things, and we

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01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 4: just relate on a lot of different things. And then

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Speaker 4: Tiffany has just always been there for me as well

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Speaker 4: Elizabeth as well, you know when when we all text

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Speaker 4: each other. Still Mario and I still keep in touch.

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Speaker 4: We we do jiu jitsu separately, and we've done it

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Speaker 4: actually together as well. But yeah, we've remained relatively connected

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Speaker 4: over the years, and obviously when we did the reboot,

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Speaker 4: yeah we got a little bit closer again. But everybody

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Speaker 4: has families and lives and and and other things, but

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Speaker 4: we reach out to each other every once, especially the

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Speaker 4: chance to do comic cons. Yes, that's where we've been

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Speaker 4: able to reconnect. One of these days, we'll try to

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Speaker 4: get Tiffany out there to do one of them.

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Speaker 3: I know she should.

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Speaker 4: I think she'd have a good time.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing nineties con in Tampa?

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Speaker 4: I would like to. We had a good time at

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Speaker 4: the other one. I don't know what city that was,

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Speaker 4: but we had a.

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Speaker 5: Hard Hartford, Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut, baby my birthplace.

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Speaker 4: Oh was that right? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I went home for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a good we had that was a

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Speaker 4: really good show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'd like to do the next one,

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Speaker 4: and I think the next one is in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: Said, yeah, in September. I want you guys to do

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01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: that one so we can all be together.

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Speaker 4: Hey, reach out to Tiffany and try to get that going.

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01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 4: That'll be a big one because she's never done a

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Speaker 4: comic con.

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Speaker 5: And that's a great one to start with.

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01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 4: So that'd be a really good one for her to

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01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: start with.

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Speaker 5: Where do you Where do you study jiu jitsu?

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01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 4: So I live here in San Diego some study now

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01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 4: here in uh In in San Diego, I'm with Gracie Baja.

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Speaker 5: Now, okay cool.

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01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 4: So Mario is with Gracie Baja in Glendale and there's

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Speaker 4: Gracie Bajas all over the place. Yeah, do you do?

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Speaker 4: You do jiu jitsu? Will do?

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Speaker 5: I'd like to start. I've been a UFC fan since

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01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 5: UFC one, so I've been, but I've never actually gotten

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01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 5: to roll at all. So yeah, it would be it

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01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 5: would be fun to give it a try. But yeah,

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01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 5: I mean it's just watching hoist Gracie back in the

1356
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 5: original days was one of the things that actually brought

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01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 5: me into the sport.

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Speaker 2: So love it.

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01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 4: It's an amazing sport. I've been doing it since two

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01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 4: thousand and nine and uh it just uh I just

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01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 4: love everything about I love the culture. Yeah, I love

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 4: how it makes me feel.

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01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 5: And there's a great machida. There's a great machiitah Jim

1364
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 5: like five minutes from me. So I don't know about

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01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 5: maybe checking it out somewhere, but I think it is

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01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 5: Joe Rogan's old.

1367
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 4: Jim Macheita or machado.

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01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: I think it's is it machado? Is that what it is?

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01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 5: I thought it was.

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01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 4: Is that, okay, Jean Jacques Machado.

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01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know enough about that.

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01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 4: There's one of the there's one of the I mean

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01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 4: James Vanderbeek.

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01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: Exactly.

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01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 5: Is that Machado? Okay, that's the one. Is that the

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01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 5: one that that Rogan went to?

1377
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 4: And I believe so, I believe, So it's it's there

1378
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 4: in the valley, yeah, if you're Yeah, and it's great school. Obviously.

1379
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 4: Jean Jaques Machado is one of the godfathers of of

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01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 4: jiu jitsu, and.

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: I think him right here, Yeah, you dude not.

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01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 4: I follow him on YouTube and he's doing videos almost

1383
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,959
Speaker 4: every other day, and so I know that he's he's

1384
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 4: currently training at at that school at least I hope.

1385
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 5: So that's cool.

1386
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 4: Go check it out. It's it's such a it's such

1387
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 4: an inviting I mean, your hardest step is to make

1388
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 4: the decision to actually go. But once you walk in

1389
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 4: through that door, you're gonna be welcomed and everybody's gonna

1390
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 4: be cool, and you're gonna get your butt kicked and

1391
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 4: you're gonna love it.

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01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 5: That's okay, Yeah, No, I'm that's I'd love to learn.

1393
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 5: I really have always wanted to learn, so I think

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01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 5: that's cool.

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01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: Well, Mark, Paul, thank you so much for taking this

1396
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: much time to sit here with us and reminisce and

1397
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: talk about all the things. I will start needling the

1398
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: nineties Contampa people about getting you out there and you

1399
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: start doing the direct text to Tiffany please and see

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01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: if you can get her, convince her to do it,

1401
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: because that would be that would be amazing, sounds good.

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01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 4: And let's not get the Dawson's Creek people there because

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01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 4: we might get confused.

1404
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: I would talking to James Vanderbeek and.

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01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: Coming on the.

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01:06:55,320 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: Podcast will be rolling with n Sham, rolling with and

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01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: you're you're talking to James Vanderbeek.

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01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 5: It's going to be a great, great day. While riter's going,

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01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 5: I have no idea what the hell, no idea what

1410
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 5: any of.

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01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 3: The things are that you're saying.

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01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you again for taking the time. It

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01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: really means a lot to us.

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01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, guys. Thank you so much.

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01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: We'll see you again soon. Bye bye.

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01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: He's so nice, He's I can't believe how many similarities

1417
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: I have to like the same, like him going back

1418
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: to his regular school. And then you know, I mean

1419
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: all the same stuffing to him.

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01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 3: You didn't get to talk to him then at the

1421
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 3: last con.

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01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: No, no, I know you go, yeah, I saw him,

1423
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: I met him.

1424
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 4: I've said hi.

1425
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: I think maybe like I've shaken his hand before, but like, no,

1426
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: like this was. He's such a good guy.

1427
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: He's a really he's really like down to earth, like

1428
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: he's somebody we could have like a you have a

1429
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: real normal there's no put on.

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01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 3: Airs about him, yeah, which is rare refreshing. Yeah, it's refreshing.

1431
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean it's just part of being an actor that

1432
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 2: you usually are good at putting on errors, you know, Yeah,

1433
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 2: and so you do it all the time.

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01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been he's been working like steadily at forty

1435
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 5: years or so. I mean, it's insane.

1436
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: It's insane, literally, and he and he constantly he's.

1437
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 5: He's a great example of reinventing yourself when you need

1438
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 5: to in the industry while staying true to who you are. Yep,

1439
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 5: you know, he's it's it seems like he's always that guy.

1440
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 5: But he will go and do like you said, a

1441
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 5: Stephen Botchko show, he'll go. I mean it's like he

1442
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 5: becomes who he has to become.

1443
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 2: He's a real team actor, right, Like he always he's

1444
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 2: just there to work and always, you know, and that's

1445
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 2: so healthy, Like I feel like for me, like part

1446
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: of the reason I had to stop acting was because

1447
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: I was so obsessed with like what kind of project

1448
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 2: am I in?

1449
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 4: What is this?

1450
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 5: You know? As an artist?

1451
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: Does this reflect?

1452
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: And it's like at a certain point, it's very healthy

1453
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: as an actor to be like, doesn't matter, I'm working

1454
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: to do my job. And I'm working, and I'm working

1455
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: and alive, and like it keeps you in vitalized, like

1456
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: revitalizes you no matter what it is, just to be doing,

1457
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 2: just to be acting, just to be working.

1458
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 5: And but it's also to watch if you go back

1459
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 5: and watch some of the early Save by the Bells,

1460
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 5: then you go and watch like or to NYPD Blue

1461
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 5: and stuff like that. To see the progression of him

1462
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 5: just as an actor is really impressive. I mean it

1463
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 5: really is.

1464
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,679
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