Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the podcast. We got a
Speaker 1: lot of people at the dinner table today, got Parker,
Speaker 1: got Tyler, my brothers, aunt, our producer.
Speaker 2: I told them I was going to change my last
Speaker 2: name to Smith for one episode.
Speaker 1: Anthony Smith. Welcome, going on, we are, we're changing it up.
Speaker 1: So I guess I should say this. We've been through
Speaker 1: a series of interview podcast and most people probably don't
Speaker 1: know that we stack those up all back to back
Speaker 1: to back. So you and I have actually been off
Speaker 1: and not doing anything for about six weeks, and so
Speaker 1: now this we're recording this the week that it releases,
Speaker 1: so when people hear this, we will have just recorded it.
Speaker 1: That's why we're here just a few days ago. We
Speaker 1: need somebody ate that. No, no, no, no, this is all planned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about this for a while and it
Speaker 2: was probably a good three weeks into that hiatus of
Speaker 2: recording stuff, and Granger said, what about something like this?
Speaker 1: So this is literally the next one after Josh.
Speaker 2: What's funny is everything he was talking about? I go,
Speaker 2: so you mean a morning show? So I'm just thinking radio.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you got you got all these different all
Speaker 2: the different personalities which in radio would call different characters and.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll just bring everyone into this idea. But
Speaker 1: it's like I'll sit in this chair. I would say
Speaker 1: most shows, I would imagine ant Man's gonna sit here,
Speaker 1: and then these two chairs will rotate Amber, Bernie Marshall, Steven.
Speaker 1: I guess like like a John Crist or An Easy
Speaker 1: or you know, someone like that could could rotate on
Speaker 1: these or we could have two guests. Makes sense because
Speaker 1: you always bring in ant Man, but he's always off screen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we talked, we talk. He's everybody's always looking
Speaker 2: over there, like who are they talking?
Speaker 1: Eventually we need to do that with Brian on the
Speaker 1: E podcast. Bring him in so we could do We
Speaker 1: could still answer questions, which you could. You could email
Speaker 1: us podcast at grangersmith dot com.
Speaker 2: We got some of those today.
Speaker 1: We got some of those today. You could request guests.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that could be encouraging comment if
Speaker 1: you're watching or listening on YouTube, maybe some guest ideas,
Speaker 1: or you could email ant Man Podcast at grangersmith dot
Speaker 1: com just to request a guest. Yep, that could be
Speaker 1: a thing or a topic. Hey would you guys talk
Speaker 1: about this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really interested in you and hearing Elle's opinion on this
Speaker 1: email podcast at grangersmith dot com.
Speaker 2: Okay, you brought up something YouTube, so we're going to
Speaker 2: start now talking about it, if that's cool, because we
Speaker 2: actually where you are watching. If you're watching right now
Speaker 2: on YouTube, it's moving from this channel. This podcast is
Speaker 2: moving from this channel to its own Granger Smith Podcast
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. Now, if you're already there on the Grangersmith
Speaker 2: podcast channel, you're still going to get everything you get
Speaker 2: like normal until our three hundred and first episode, which
Speaker 2: is coming up. I think it's on June I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: July twenty first.
Speaker 1: So the three hundredth episode stays on the grangers channel exactly.
Speaker 2: That stays on the granger channel. Then the three to
Speaker 2: oh one and everything else. The only place you can
Speaker 2: watch that is on the new channel. Now on the
Speaker 2: new channel, you can get all the old ones and
Speaker 2: all the new ones on the what's the name of
Speaker 2: the new channel, Granger Smith Podcast. Okay, yeah, so have
Speaker 2: you just that. Yeah, it's all set up, it's ready
Speaker 2: to go. It's running right now.
Speaker 1: It's running right now.
Speaker 2: There's already like fifteen subscribers. It's like people have found it.
Speaker 1: I think I'm one of them. Are you Is this
Speaker 1: the three hundredth episode.
Speaker 2: No, no, well it's still down a lot. Oh that's
Speaker 2: July twenty first will be the be the one that
Speaker 2: goes on the new channel. But you can go subscribe
Speaker 2: to the new channel right now and still get everything
Speaker 2: we're doing between now and three oh one.
Speaker 1: So if what we said doesn't make sense, that's okay.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to anyone, especially if
Speaker 1: you're listening on a podcast channel. It does not matter
Speaker 1: at all. Only YouTube will change in a little over
Speaker 1: a month. We're going to migrate from the Granger Smith,
Speaker 1: which is a music channel. We're going to migrate to
Speaker 1: the Granger Smith podcast YouTube channel. So go there now
Speaker 1: and subscribe if you would, to the Granger Smith podcast
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, and all that's going to live on there
Speaker 1: is the podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you link it in in this episode?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's kind of hard to find when you just
Speaker 3: search it.
Speaker 2: You bet, yeah, because it hasn't It hasn't organically populated
Speaker 2: anything yet. It will soon. We'll start putting some reels
Speaker 2: and stuff up organically. But yes, in this episode description,
Speaker 2: you're watching on the Granger Smith channel right now. I'll
Speaker 2: put brand new channel and it'll have the link to it.
Speaker 2: So it's already there right now, go click on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The reason for that, there's a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1: We don't have to get into the weeds of it.
Speaker 1: My channel was always a music channel. Hopefully there will
Speaker 1: be music on there again one day, most likely gospel
Speaker 1: music of some sort and a scripture memorization songs and
Speaker 1: things like that. But it's it's actually hurting us because
Speaker 1: that algorithm is music and not a podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, channel, and we have some other things coming up
Speaker 2: with the podcast. Do we want to get into the lives.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, we do. That's a huge announcement.
Speaker 2: So we don't have a name for it yet. We
Speaker 2: just know it's going to be called Granger Smith Podcast Presents.
Speaker 2: This will open up. See if we left the Granger
Speaker 2: Smith podcast underneath the Granger Smith Channel, we wouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to put other playlists that are just under the
Speaker 2: podcast because the podcast itself was a playlist. I don't,
Speaker 2: like you said, I don't want to get into the
Speaker 2: weeds too much, but this will allow us to do
Speaker 2: when we do live podcasts, to be able to feature
Speaker 2: those in their own feed underneath the channel. So yeah,
Speaker 2: we've working on right now Granger Smith Podcast Presents. It's
Speaker 2: going to be with Grainger and Amber. Name will be
Speaker 2: coming soon. We'll have all the big announcements, looking like
Speaker 2: six to eight cities, maybe more info. When we do
Speaker 2: release the info, you're not going to miss it. It'll
Speaker 2: be everywhere. Granger's Instagram, Amber's Instagram. Ye ye, Instagram. I hope.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah. Let me say, let me say in one sentence,
Speaker 1: we're going on tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: Man? I'm so excited because saying going on tour because
Speaker 1: I was you know, I was built really for the
Speaker 1: for this. I was built to operate in this this
Speaker 1: you know, going to city to city and we'll stay
Speaker 1: in a hotel. I mean, it's it's easy. It's the
Speaker 1: easiest tour ever. We're planning on re literally one city
Speaker 1: in the middle of a week. I can't have my
Speaker 1: Sundays taken up from my from church. Saturdays and Sundays
Speaker 1: I have to have for the service of the church,
Speaker 1: and then the rest of the week I need open
Speaker 1: for members of the church, coffees, lunches, meetings, things like that.
Speaker 1: But giving up one day in the middle of the week.
Speaker 1: Why don't we decide on that again middle of the
Speaker 1: week as opposed to a Friday night.
Speaker 2: It could be I mean, it could be a Thursday night.
Speaker 1: Em always asked, actually asked all that, like, what I.
Speaker 2: Think it's the Saturday piece because that means we'd be
Speaker 2: coming back on on Saturday and taking up the majority
Speaker 2: of the day, when kind of Saturday Sunday is really
Speaker 2: prep time for for Granger and eldership.
Speaker 1: And and yeah, maybe I misspoke, maybe it's not Wednesday
Speaker 1: like middle of the week, but but it's sometime where
Speaker 1: we have we could all have including the people coming
Speaker 1: are not away from their home church. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: love the idea of this. We have tested it a
Speaker 1: little bit at egu Fest a little bit. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna take this podcast in some sense on tour to
Speaker 1: how many cities Tyler six to eight, six to eight
Speaker 1: cities those will be announced soon. Maybe have guests come,
Speaker 1: special guests come to those cities. May have different family
Speaker 1: members come like the Smiths, Amber may have Parker Tyler,
Speaker 1: may have you know, different guests that we've had on
Speaker 1: the podcast before. But we'll do a live Q and A.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things we'll do, discussions, meet and greet.
Speaker 1: We'll get to meet everybody, So that's going to scratch
Speaker 1: an itch. That's going to be pretty nice to be
Speaker 1: able to see people of vee Nation and meet them
Speaker 1: again and take pictures and listen to their stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, excited about that. So you know, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you already are if you're new to this podcast and
Speaker 2: you aren't following any of that, any of the social channels,
Speaker 2: it hit just one of them up at least Granger's
Speaker 2: ambers this one.
Speaker 1: And in this podcast what we're talking about will be
Speaker 1: released just like a normal podcast. Is that is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Episode, it may be a special episode. It may
Speaker 2: be in the you know, as we do them live
Speaker 2: in the middle of the week, maybe the following week.
Speaker 2: It's released to the public, you know, in the middle
Speaker 2: of the week, so it'd be like a special on
Speaker 2: a Wednesday. But you know, as far as all that
Speaker 2: stuff will work all the details out, I'll just know
Speaker 2: that if you can't come or we don't come to
Speaker 2: your city, those podcasts are going to be released where
Speaker 2: you watch and where you listen, So to this podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, Super excited and this is kind of
Speaker 1: happening with alongside Amber's book which is coming out. Her
Speaker 1: memoir is coming out mid October.
Speaker 2: As she said the title, yet as she talked about.
Speaker 1: It, she hasn't released so I will. I love the title,
Speaker 1: but until she does. But her book comes out mid October,
Speaker 1: this will we'll be able to go with her and
Speaker 1: have these discussions with people with her book in hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look forward to that. Be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's huge. That's a huge announcement. That's probably the
Speaker 1: thumb nail of this video. Actually were calling on tour, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you preached the Sunday. It's past Sunday. I
Speaker 2: did what you preach.
Speaker 1: About John three verses one to fifteen nighttime conversation with
Speaker 1: Jesus and Nicodemus.
Speaker 2: Oh you did, Yeah, the whole thing. And not on
Speaker 2: two X speed.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, one X. Thank you. That's encouraging.
Speaker 2: Do you ever do you listen on to X? No?
Speaker 2: Not usually he does all the time. I'm coming in.
Speaker 2: What are you listening to?
Speaker 1: I'm just dumb.
Speaker 3: I can't listen.
Speaker 1: Parkner showed me right before we walked in to hear,
Speaker 1: which is like the most genius thing I've ever seen
Speaker 1: anybody do doesn't listen to podcasts. He takes the puts
Speaker 1: it into an app, takes the app, makes it, summarize it,
Speaker 1: send us to chat GPT says give me a breakdown,
Speaker 1: and PDA, please don't do that to this podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh somebody is right now.
Speaker 3: I only do that to like it's into business stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I listen like entertaining podcasts. But if of like, if
Speaker 3: somebody releases an hour and a half video of like
Speaker 3: how do how to make your business healthier? Then I'll
Speaker 3: put it into an app called Summarify. It'll make highly
Speaker 3: detailed notes about it that are like ten pages long.
Speaker 3: I export that in the PDF and a chat GUPT
Speaker 3: and say, give me a thirty day action plan for
Speaker 3: me at ee Apparel.
Speaker 2: Incredible, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand that. Yeah, but a sermon, you
Speaker 1: can't do that.
Speaker 2: No, I don't do that.
Speaker 1: You're going to miss n give.
Speaker 2: Me the points in the versus that Grant talks about
Speaker 2: be done with.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. It's super encouraging to to do it.
Speaker 1: You know, we're we're at our church, we're working through
Speaker 1: the Book of John right now, and so last week
Speaker 1: Marshall preached the end of Chapter two. I preached this
Speaker 1: past Sunday, Chapter three one to fifteen, and then I
Speaker 1: just did a sermon review on that today with Marshall,
Speaker 1: and he'll begin John three starting at sixteen, going to
Speaker 1: twenty one this coming week. So yeah, as we're working
Speaker 1: to John, it's been super nourishing and to be able
Speaker 1: to live in those fifteen verses for about eight days,
Speaker 1: I started a little bit early. Usually it's a week,
Speaker 1: but I started a little early, lived in those verses
Speaker 1: and you just get nourished by it. And I was
Speaker 1: telling Marshall today actually that it's so interesting because you
Speaker 1: probably do this at your church. There's the sermon text
Speaker 1: reading before the preacher.
Speaker 2: The preacher somebody usually does, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: So we'll have someone come and read this sermon text.
Speaker 1: And I noticed it this Sunday specifically that when that happens,
Speaker 1: there's a weird emotional feeling I get when I hear
Speaker 1: someone from the pulpit reading the text, because it's like
Speaker 1: that's been a private relationship, with an intimate relationship with
Speaker 1: me and the Lord, with those verses, digging through them, thinking,
Speaker 1: wrestling with them. Reading other people's commentating, commentate, commentating, commentaries
Speaker 1: on it, reading, reading through all this, the footnotes of
Speaker 1: the text, chasing, chasing the all the meanings throughout the
Speaker 1: rest of the Bible, looking at the Greek and seeing
Speaker 1: the meanings of those words. And then it's been me
Speaker 1: intimately with the Lord in this. And then a guy
Speaker 1: goes up and reads the text to the congregation and
Speaker 1: I hear it. It's like, now my intimate conversation with
Speaker 1: the Lord is not public, and it's so strange it's
Speaker 1: hard to describe. But anyway, Yeah, I loved I loved
Speaker 1: this text and I loved preaching it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 1: And we could we could link that description. Uh that
Speaker 1: that link in the description as well.
Speaker 2: Get to the it's in essence a podcast. You can
Speaker 2: listen to the sermon.
Speaker 1: Now, you can listen to it on the podcast. Our
Speaker 1: podcast is what is it? A Maus Church podcast? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think you should look at me Mais Church, Georgetown.
Speaker 1: Then it's all podcast platforms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's weird for me? It wouldn't play on Apple podcasts.
Speaker 2: It said this can't be played on this device. It's
Speaker 2: an Apple podcast on an Apple phone iPhone. That's all
Speaker 2: it's I went to Spotify and pulled it up the
Speaker 2: same one.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you have any trouble, just know, go
Speaker 2: to another you can check it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had an interesting conversation about it. I'm having
Speaker 1: an interesting conversation right now.
Speaker 2: Actually, Oh you on on the text? Are you let
Speaker 2: me see?
Speaker 1: Oh? He hasn't currently replied. You guys are gonna. I
Speaker 1: getted these things, man, I uh so, I think I'll
Speaker 1: just I think I'll just say this because he would
Speaker 1: under even if he was listening right now, he would
Speaker 1: understand this. But there is a man that has a
Speaker 1: podcast in another state, not in Texas. I've been on
Speaker 1: his podcast before for like a River, and he reached
Speaker 1: out yesterday and he said, Hey, Granger, it's so and
Speaker 1: so from so and so podcast. I hope you're well.
Speaker 1: It's a video.
Speaker 2: Message, a video. What do you mean a video?
Speaker 1: He like text? He texts this is he has ever
Speaker 1: met a guy that will text you with a selfie video? No,
Speaker 1: but life talks about I feel like he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the world. That's the world. This guy's done. He
Speaker 1: talks about doing that. So I bet you he heard
Speaker 1: it from It's it's the same world. They're they're all friends. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is not ed, but it's one of his friends, like,
Speaker 1: this is that world. So he said, he leaves with
Speaker 1: the you know, and and he said, it's just different.
Speaker 1: You know. I love to have you back on the show.
Speaker 1: But he said, also, I have a new book out
Speaker 1: and it's about raising kids, and I'll just be I'll
Speaker 1: just be super frank with you right now. I would
Speaker 1: love to be on your show, on your podcast and
Speaker 1: talk about this, which is not a bad ask. I
Speaker 1: don't mind anyone asking that. But I was in a
Speaker 1: mood and I was on a prayer walk out here
Speaker 1: in the country road, you know, and I was kind
Speaker 1: of unpacking John three, and I said, hey, so and
Speaker 1: so great to hear from you, man, Thanks so much
Speaker 1: for reaching out. Means a lot that you're that you
Speaker 1: think about me for stuff like this. I said, let's
Speaker 1: wrestle with something. I would love to do that if
Speaker 1: you're willing, I said, I see you. You're wearing a
Speaker 1: cross around your neck. Are you a Christian voice text?
Speaker 1: He hits back, I'm absolutely a Christian. In fact, the
Speaker 1: book I wrote before this is raising kids through the
Speaker 1: Spirit or something like spiritual child rearing. You know, something
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hide his titles once again. Even if
Speaker 1: you listened, I think he would understand because we've been
Speaker 1: literally talking all day. And I said, I said great,
Speaker 1: I said, let me ask you a question, then, what
Speaker 1: is a Christian? In silence for like six hours, he
Speaker 1: gets back and he goes, hey, grandeured man, great question.
Speaker 1: All these videos, this one, this particular one was audio. Okay,
Speaker 1: great question. I'm so glad you asked it. It's very important.
Speaker 1: And and you asked, what is a Christian? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: Christian is someone who not only belize, No, that's not
Speaker 1: the first one. Christian is someone who follows Christ and
Speaker 1: does like he does. And you know, a person that
Speaker 1: loves his neighbor and that is sincere and respectful and honest.
Speaker 1: And you know, you gave me this long listen and
Speaker 1: I said, hey, so and so, thanks so much.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: That's that's encouraging to hear. But I do want to
Speaker 1: bring up that you didn't answer my question. I said,
Speaker 1: what is a Christian? And you answered with what a
Speaker 1: Christian does? So I ask again, what is a Christian?
Speaker 1: And I said, by the way, sometimes people are like,
Speaker 1: think I'm a little abrasive. I promise I'm not a
Speaker 1: brave I'm not trying to be abrasive. I just love
Speaker 1: digging into this stuff, like my heart is for discipling
Speaker 1: and I love unpacking these things.
Speaker 2: Do people think you're you're looking for a gotcha?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 2: I got you? See you do? Now?
Speaker 1: Try to try to try to often that. Yeah, maybe,
Speaker 1: but I try to always. I try to always put
Speaker 1: in there like, hey man, this is a heart of
Speaker 1: love and love unpacking these things you give.
Speaker 3: A little Martin Nevrin, so you just get straight to
Speaker 3: you have the gift of straightforward.
Speaker 1: If you're trying to get a gift for someone that
Speaker 1: you think has everything, how about a special video message
Speaker 1: from me. It's easy to do. Go to cameo dot
Speaker 1: com slash Granger Smith and you put in the prompt
Speaker 1: what you want me to say. I get that message
Speaker 1: on my phone. I'll say happy birthday, happy anniversary, whatever
Speaker 1: personalized message you want me to say to whoever you
Speaker 1: want me to say it to. I send it to
Speaker 1: you and you give it to them. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Go to cameo dot com slash Granger Smith. Ye Apparel
Speaker 1: summer launch is June thirteenth. This is a really good launch.
Speaker 1: We have so many new items we're excited to show you.
Speaker 1: If you want to support that Yeee apparel, go to
Speaker 1: yee dot com. Remember the new stuff. The summer launch
Speaker 1: comes out June thirteenth hours. Goodbye again. Okay, he hits
Speaker 1: me back up and he goes man Granger, you were
Speaker 1: really making me think. And I love that about you.
Speaker 1: This is exciting. And yeah, you know now that I
Speaker 1: think about it, now that I think about the way
Speaker 1: you ask it, yeah, I think a Christian is not
Speaker 1: only someone who believes in Christ, but someone who obeyses commandments.
Speaker 1: And I think about you and your life and your story,
Speaker 1: and to me, the word that comes to mind is surrender.
Speaker 1: Someone who surrenders their life, you know, to God. And
Speaker 1: I remember that time you had in your in your
Speaker 1: RV when you had that moment of surrendering. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's a Christian. I hit them up again. Hey, brother,
Speaker 1: thanks so much. Once again, you didn't answer the question.
Speaker 1: Once again, you said what a Christian does? I said,
Speaker 1: it's like, it's like, it's like this, so and so
Speaker 1: if I asked you what is a light bulb and
Speaker 1: you're answering, oh, a light bulb. Yeah, it's just it
Speaker 1: sends light into the room and it goes to all
Speaker 1: the crevices of the room and it illuminates the darkness.
Speaker 1: And light bulbs are so great because when you come
Speaker 1: in a dark room and you have a light bulb,
Speaker 1: you could now see and you can have different colors
Speaker 1: of the light bulb. They could get they can get
Speaker 1: to places that once were dark now now they're light.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's not a light bulb. That's what a
Speaker 1: light bulb does. I can't wait to hear what what
Speaker 1: a Christian is. So you're a good storyteller. So do
Speaker 1: you tell stories to your kids like this at night?
Speaker 1: Like many used to? Sometimes? So I move send it
Speaker 1: hours go by early this morning video texts.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought that I thought we were dwindling. I
Speaker 2: thought we were going from video text to voice mea
Speaker 2: video now to texting and like a carrier pigeon was
Speaker 2: bringing the last one or something.
Speaker 1: It's back to video. He actually said it late last night,
Speaker 1: but I didn't get it till early this morning. He's
Speaker 1: sitting there like this video text and he goes, little,
Speaker 1: did I know what the podcast? This was going to
Speaker 1: soon throw me into the deepest thought I've ever had
Speaker 1: this subject, and he goes, and I'll be I'll be
Speaker 1: straight up honest with you when I I'm aware enough
Speaker 1: in my life that when I reach a point like this,
Speaker 1: I now I just want to sit and listen. I
Speaker 1: kind of want to stop talking, and I just want
Speaker 1: to be a student. I feel like I just need
Speaker 1: to learn. Now, can you please tell me? What is
Speaker 1: a Christian.
Speaker 2: So much better than just getting offended and doing Hey,
Speaker 2: I was just seeing it on your podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm sure this guy is very successful whoever it is,
Speaker 1: and yeah, sounds like it. Yeah, but it's is it
Speaker 1: not the most important question? I mean, is it not
Speaker 1: the most like we skirt around faith? This is this?
Speaker 1: I literally have been living in John three? And is
Speaker 1: this not Nicodemus? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 1: What I meant by very successful means he understands the
Speaker 1: importance of listening and getting coaches and mentors more than him.
Speaker 1: That's what I meant.
Speaker 2: Understanding that he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Know yep, and he's not afraid to ask and say, hey, correct,
Speaker 1: I want to listen what you got Chapter three, Verse
Speaker 1: one of John. Now, there was a man of the
Speaker 1: Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man
Speaker 1: came to Jesus by night and said to him, Rabbi,
Speaker 1: we know you are a teacher. Come from God. For
Speaker 1: no one could do these signs that you do unless
Speaker 1: God is with him. Jesus answered him, truly, truly, I
Speaker 1: say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot
Speaker 1: see the Kingdom of God. Nicodemus said to him, how
Speaker 1: could a man be born when he is old? Can
Speaker 1: he enter a second time into his mother's womb and
Speaker 1: be born? Jesus answered, truly, truly, I say to you,
Speaker 1: unless one is born of water and the spirit, he
Speaker 1: cannot enter the Kingdom of God. That which is born
Speaker 1: of the flesh is flesh, that which is born of
Speaker 1: spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you,
Speaker 1: you must be born again. The wind blows where it wishes,
Speaker 1: and you hear it sound, but you do not know
Speaker 1: where it comes from or where it goes. So it
Speaker 1: is with every one who is born of the spirit.
Speaker 1: Nicodemus said to him, how could these things be? Jesus
Speaker 1: answered him, are you not the teacher of Israel? And
Speaker 1: yet you do not understand these things? Truly, truly, I
Speaker 1: say to you, we speak of what we know and
Speaker 1: bear witness to what we have seen. But you do
Speaker 1: not receive our testimony. If I told you earthly things
Speaker 1: and you do not believe, how could you believe if
Speaker 1: I tell you heavenly things. No one has ascended into
Speaker 1: heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of
Speaker 1: Man and Moses. And as Mo just lifted up the
Speaker 1: serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man
Speaker 1: be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have
Speaker 1: eternal life. This is this was just on my heart.
Speaker 1: And I have realized through this conversation with this man,
Speaker 1: how many nicodemus Is are out there, how much I
Speaker 1: was in Nicodemus my whole life, And how I wish
Speaker 1: that someone would have grabbed my shoulders and said, Granger,
Speaker 1: you are Nicodemus. You think you know, but what does
Speaker 1: it mean? What does it mean to be a Christian?
Speaker 1: Can you tell me? And I would and I would say,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just like this man that I've been texting,
Speaker 1: he was part of this group. I'm going to kind
Speaker 1: of hide their identity, but he's part of a discipleship
Speaker 1: group that I've spoken for spoken with before the Disciples
Speaker 1: meant for years, two years at a time, their discipled
Speaker 1: and then they become the disciple er, and then they
Speaker 1: disciple others for two years, and yet he couldn't answer
Speaker 1: the question what is a Christian? Yeah, it's haunting.
Speaker 2: So are you going back and forth with him?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: So now I laid it all out in about four
Speaker 1: as I was driving actually to hear old podcast nice
Speaker 1: where that's what they sound.
Speaker 2: The voice text.
Speaker 1: But you know, I start with the gospel, and I
Speaker 1: start with I start with the you know, God created
Speaker 1: and it was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And since the rebellion of Adam in the garden, we
Speaker 1: have become separated from God. It's it's very scary because
Speaker 1: Isaiah in chapter fifty nine says, your iniquities have caused
Speaker 1: a separation between you and your God, and your sins
Speaker 1: have hidden his face from you so that he does
Speaker 1: not hear. That's scary. So what do we do we're
Speaker 1: separated from We can't do anything that. In Romans chapter five,
Speaker 1: Paul talks about how we are under God's wrath, that
Speaker 1: we are enemies of God. That is not theology that
Speaker 1: people talk about in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 1: Wait, I thought God loves you, yeah right, and accepts
Speaker 1: you the way you are, Yeah right. So to that,
Speaker 1: what Paul's argument is in Romans five point eight is
Speaker 1: that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Speaker 1: That's that's how he shows his love for us, not
Speaker 1: because he loves us where we are, but he loves
Speaker 1: us that he sent his only son while we are
Speaker 1: still sinners, to die for us. And so I'm unpacking
Speaker 1: this in a lot more that I was saying about
Speaker 1: how God enters his own creation as a man and
Speaker 1: a son, the son of God, as Jesus, who lived
Speaker 1: that perfect life that we all try to live to be,
Speaker 1: you know, morally right, because everyone's trying to live a
Speaker 1: good life and be moral and you know, character improvement.
Speaker 1: Jesus lives all with that perfectly. Yeah, God cannot. If
Speaker 1: God is a God of love, then he must despise
Speaker 1: what is not good and clean and moral and upright
Speaker 1: and perfect and just and sincere and gracious and compassionate.
Speaker 1: He must despise anything that's not those things because He
Speaker 1: is perfect and none of those things could be part
Speaker 1: of his world. And so where does that leave us
Speaker 1: Isaiah fifty nine separated? He's not even hearing, but because
Speaker 1: of his great love for his people, he sends his
Speaker 1: son into the world to live that perfect life, become
Speaker 1: the sacrifice on the cross, to take the sins of
Speaker 1: his people into his body as a punishment, the punishment
Speaker 1: we deserved into his body. So he becomes that sacrifice
Speaker 1: of the lamb or the dove or the cow. He
Speaker 1: becomes that final ultimate sacrifice, saying that now I have
Speaker 1: replaced that, I have become the substitute for all what
Speaker 1: you deserve. I told the guy, it's like this. You're
Speaker 1: in death row, and the crime you've committed is murder
Speaker 1: of the highest court. You murder a homeless guy, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a bad that's a bad thing, right, But
Speaker 1: you murder a police officer, it's a really bad thing.
Speaker 1: You murder a senator in the United States, that's a
Speaker 1: really really bad thing. You assassinate the president, that is
Speaker 1: that is a horribly bad thing for you. What if
Speaker 1: you send against a holy God, creator of the universe, right,
Speaker 1: you committed an adultery against him. You've hated him in
Speaker 1: your heart, thus murdering him as we did on Christ
Speaker 1: on the Cross. What kind of punishment do we deserve.
Speaker 1: So we're on death row, like that kind of death row,
Speaker 1: waiting that kind of punishment, and a man steps in
Speaker 1: and goes, take me instead, let him go. Everything you
Speaker 1: were going to do to this, to you, everything you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Do to him, put it on me.
Speaker 1: Put it on me. And then the judge comes in,
Speaker 1: he goes, you're free to go. So because of that,
Speaker 1: flowing from that, we look back on that and it
Speaker 1: is then we go, I will live my life honoring you.
Speaker 1: You set me free Galatians five to one for freedom.
Speaker 1: What if your parker's wearing it? For freedom? Christ, to
Speaker 1: set us free, Stand firm therefore, and do not submit
Speaker 1: again to the yoke of slavery. So from then overflowing
Speaker 1: we become morally upright as we walk in the works,
Speaker 1: the good works prepared for us. Ephesians too, because of
Speaker 1: what Jesus did on that cross. Not and we didn't
Speaker 1: earn our salvation, No, it's a result of it. So
Speaker 1: so then knowing that we go, okay, well, what in
Speaker 1: the world this is? Not? How does God then look
Speaker 1: at us and think that we're okay? You know? Because
Speaker 1: he looks at us and we were in Christ, he
Speaker 1: sees Christ righteousness, Christ righteousness put on us, which is
Speaker 1: this is the miracle. So let me go where I
Speaker 1: went to this guy in Ephesians two. You were dead
Speaker 1: in your trespasses and sins in which you once walked, Okay,
Speaker 1: following the course of this world, following the prince of
Speaker 1: the power of the air. The spirit is now the
Speaker 1: same spirit that's now in work in the sons of disobedience,
Speaker 1: among whom we all once lived, and the passions of
Speaker 1: our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and
Speaker 1: the mind. And we're by nature. Here's this crazy thing.
Speaker 1: By nature. We were children of wrath, separated from God,
Speaker 1: dead in our trespasses, by nature, children of wrath Romans five,
Speaker 1: enemies of God. That's not a message heard too often, right,
Speaker 1: But God verse four being rich in mercy because of
Speaker 1: the great love with which He loved them us, even
Speaker 1: when we were dead and our trespasses, made us alive
Speaker 1: together with Christ. By grace. You've been saved and raised
Speaker 1: up with Him and seated us with Him in the
Speaker 1: heavenly places. In Christ Jesus, so that in the coming
Speaker 1: ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace
Speaker 1: and kindness towards us in Christ Jesus, for by grace
Speaker 1: you've been saved through faith. This is not your own doing.
Speaker 1: It is the gift of God, not a result the works.
Speaker 1: So that no one may boast incredible. A Christian is
Speaker 1: a new creation. Whoever is in Christ is now a
Speaker 1: new creation. The oldest passed away, the news come a
Speaker 1: new creation saved by grace because of what Christ did
Speaker 1: on the cross.
Speaker 2: That's a Christian.
Speaker 1: There, it is good podcast. There it is a new creation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So did he get there yet? He hasn't replied yet,
Speaker 1: check one war time. He has not replied, he said.
Speaker 1: He replied and said, thank you so much for sending these.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I'm in a quiet place to listen.
Speaker 1: So if you would ask me that, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: said a new creation. Well, I technically we could answer
Speaker 1: a lot of different gospel. But yeah, I mean I would.
Speaker 1: I'm trying because I was for the whole time. I
Speaker 1: was like, what is it Christian? What would I say?
Speaker 1: And I just got to the point where it's like Jesus,
Speaker 1: like anytime I'm like in it in this spot where
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer, I'm just like Jesus. Well,
Speaker 1: you could say you could use John three and say
Speaker 1: someone that's born again by the spirit. You could say
Speaker 1: that someone someone that's someone that's bought by the blood
Speaker 1: of Christ, someone that's been made new, purchased, ransom, redeemed, restored, forgiven,
Speaker 1: all of those, all those are appropriated.
Speaker 3: You think that you would say he was answering in
Speaker 3: terms of what a Christian does. You are now answering
Speaker 3: into what has been done to the Christian to define
Speaker 3: it happens.
Speaker 1: So let's go back to the light bulb. Is a
Speaker 1: light bulb?
Speaker 2: What is a sandwich? Well, it's it's meat that has
Speaker 2: been sliced and has been carved and put on bread. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and if you'd like lettuce and tomato and mayo, then
Speaker 2: that's on there too. Yeah, there's your sandwich.
Speaker 1: YEA. The illustration of the light bulb. What's a light bulb?
Speaker 1: Would say, let's it's a a glass globe with filament inside,
Speaker 1: and you plug a cord into a power source and
Speaker 1: electricity flows through the power source and lights up the
Speaker 1: filament and the light bulb is is is the new
Speaker 1: life caused by the plugging into the power source and
Speaker 1: it omits light, that's a light bulb instead of the
Speaker 1: opposite would be saying a light bulb shines or makes
Speaker 1: bride or that's all the result. That's true. What he
Speaker 1: said is true of what Christians do. But but a
Speaker 1: Christian is a new creation, in plugged into the power
Speaker 1: source of Christ, made new, restored, ransom, forgiven, Once a
Speaker 1: child of wrath by nature, now a child of God,
Speaker 1: adopted as a son, an heir to the kingdom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an offensive message. You are telling people that
Speaker 3: they're dead and sick.
Speaker 2: And that they need to there's also you know, go ahead,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say when you said for grace, for
Speaker 1: by grace you have been saved through faith, it's like
Speaker 1: that's in every girl's Instagram bio or or you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like and it's it's amazing. It's an amazing verse.
Speaker 1: And it is true. It comes from the Bible. It
Speaker 1: is true. Just go back up to the beginning with
Speaker 1: what you were saying. How many of those people that
Speaker 1: have that in their bio know that you were dead
Speaker 1: and your trespasses and sins in which you once walked,
Speaker 1: like just the fear and the wrath of God and
Speaker 1: who he is. It's just so important. Like I used
Speaker 1: to cherrypick verses all the time too, and then it's
Speaker 1: like I have no idea what else this means or
Speaker 1: what in context we're talking about.
Speaker 2: So you said that that is offensive and very well
Speaker 2: known either agnostic or atheist. Part of the duel, the
Speaker 2: magic duo Penn and Teller. I think it's pen Is
Speaker 2: he was. I've been seeing this video that's going around
Speaker 2: of him talking about how much you have to hate
Speaker 2: the other person to not share the gospel with them.
Speaker 2: If you're a Christian and you believe that, how much
Speaker 2: do you have to hate the person to not share
Speaker 2: this news with them? Yeah, that's from an atheist.
Speaker 1: So the illustration I started the whole service with was
Speaker 1: Steve Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when I first read that, I thought, oh, this
Speaker 1: is this is us Because Steve Jobs was told he
Speaker 1: had cancer and it was treatable cancer if he had
Speaker 1: just had surgery. Doctors urged him, you need immediate surgery,
Speaker 1: we can fix this and he said, now I'll try
Speaker 1: to fix it myself acupuncture and special diet, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that was me. That's my testimony. Yeah, I thought I
Speaker 1: could do it all too So when you said that
Speaker 1: about Steve and the sermon, I was like, Yep, that
Speaker 1: was me. Yeah, I said he was. He was an
Speaker 1: extraordinary thinker, so it's no surprise he could try to
Speaker 1: outthink cancer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Eventually he got so sick he had to have the surgery,
Speaker 1: but it was too late.
Speaker 2: And he died, went everywhere else in his body. Right.
Speaker 1: He died because he thought he could fix himself. That
Speaker 1: is the story of moralism, and that is the story
Speaker 1: of character modification that we preach as as we think
Speaker 1: we're Christians and we think we're we're supposed we think
Speaker 1: being a Christian is living a good life and stamping
Speaker 1: Jesus on that and keep doing that. Keep doing that, man,
Speaker 1: I'm going to disciple you to keep on doing good things.
Speaker 1: And what you're doing is you're teaching people to heal
Speaker 1: themselves from a cancer that is killing them unless they
Speaker 1: get a heart transplant surgery.
Speaker 2: Well, who here growing up, did you hear that the
Speaker 2: word Christian meant someone who follows Christ in a essence
Speaker 2: something that you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it reminds me of the It reminds me of
Speaker 3: the WWJD bracelets And what would Jesus do? And that
Speaker 3: can be a great message, but I think it can
Speaker 3: also be extremely hazardous when you think that the primary
Speaker 3: message of Christianity is just do what Jesus did. That's
Speaker 3: the message be a good person when you can't be.
Speaker 3: And so I always remember the quote in the documentary
Speaker 3: American Gospel. They say the message of Christianity is not.
Speaker 2: What would Jesus do?
Speaker 3: Now go and do that. The message is what has
Speaker 3: Jesus done?
Speaker 2: Believe that? Oh that's Awesome's always remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we that And to be fair, idea, the idea
Speaker 1: of that, I mean that that word Christian actually comes
Speaker 1: from little Christ. That was that was a derogatory phrase
Speaker 1: to the like, look at those little Christs, you know,
Speaker 1: they fallen their little savior Jesus there. Yeah, don't give
Speaker 1: you on that. They're following that. That was a derogatory term,
Speaker 1: but we have it since embraced it. It happens in the
Speaker 1: Bible and antihok was the first time they were called
Speaker 1: Christian's book of Access. So that that Parker's right, following Christ,
Speaker 1: that's absolutely what a Christian does.
Speaker 3: You Paul says, yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So be a little Christ absolutely do what he
Speaker 1: would do? What would Christ what was.
Speaker 2: Do this?
Speaker 1: But that message is for believers. That's for butterflies who
Speaker 1: were already out of the cocoon and you're telling them
Speaker 1: to go drink nectar. At good point, but not a caterpillar.
Speaker 1: Caterpillar needs to be reborn.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You can't tell a caterpillar to eat nectar. Yeah, or fly,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. They need to
Speaker 1: be reborn.
Speaker 2: Great point. That was a great message. And like you said,
Speaker 2: how long have I been talking too?
Speaker 1: Well, Hey, you're going to say something, do you remember?
Speaker 2: No, No, it wasn't a sorial show. It wasn't important.
Speaker 2: It was important, you remember, I No.
Speaker 1: I just my default is always just like when when
Speaker 1: you're talking about your acts and what you do, whenever
Speaker 1: I find myself saying me and what I'm going to do,
Speaker 1: I'm backtracked about you. And if I don't, I'm just
Speaker 1: like Jesus. It's because of what Jesus did, not what
Speaker 1: anything that I did.
Speaker 3: So good John, that's actually this is actually John three. Sorry,
Speaker 3: this last thing I'll say, But you're talking about the
Speaker 3: caterpillar can't because it's not been born again, John three, nineteen,
Speaker 3: right after right after your sermon, this is the judgment.
Speaker 3: The light has come into the world, and people love
Speaker 3: the darkness rather than the light because their works for evil.
Speaker 3: For everyone who does wicked things hates the lights and
Speaker 3: does not come to the light lest his works be exposed.
Speaker 3: Like not only do they not want to like they
Speaker 3: they don't want to and they cannot like they must
Speaker 3: be born.
Speaker 1: Again, Marshall. By the time this podcast comes out, Marshall
Speaker 1: will have just preached that yesterday. So if he wants
Speaker 1: to hear whatever he has to say about it, it
Speaker 1: is on the.
Speaker 2: Okay, now, I'll put me in Marshall's Yeah, in the links.
Speaker 2: You want to answer a.
Speaker 1: Question, yes, thank you. We haven't done that in a while.
Speaker 2: This one comes from James. This is uh, not the
Speaker 2: book of James the person James. Hey Granger. My name
Speaker 2: is James. I'm twenty and I'm currently deployed overseas and
Speaker 2: will have been gone for ten months in July. I
Speaker 2: really value your advice and right now, with the environment
Speaker 2: I'm in, I could really use some godly wisdom. I'm
Speaker 2: dating a girl named Kris. We've been dating for nineteen
Speaker 2: months now and we've been discussing marriage. She's a Christian
Speaker 2: in her family is a good, godly family. I came
Speaker 2: from a pastor's home, being brought up in a holiness church.
Speaker 2: My views on lots of things differ from my girlfriends.
Speaker 2: She goes to a church that believes in Calvinism pretty much,
Speaker 2: so we differ greatly. She believes in once saved, always saved,
Speaker 2: which I find extremely difficult to agree with from a
Speaker 2: logical standpoint and from a biblical perspective. We've discussed this
Speaker 2: all before and she's confident that we can make it work,
Speaker 2: but I'm not so sure. I'm positive we could run
Speaker 2: into lots of issues, especially with parenting children together. I
Speaker 2: guess my question is, do you think that these are
Speaker 2: things that we can that we could work out with
Speaker 2: some time, or is this where we need to go
Speaker 2: our separate ways. Any advice would be appreciated.
Speaker 1: Marry her as quick as possible.
Speaker 2: He's overseas, so we jump on zoom.
Speaker 1: Come home and marry. Or she sees a marrying type.
Speaker 1: No kidding, right, Okay, you guys got I mean my
Speaker 1: favorite There's two chapters James that I that I would
Speaker 1: love to see kind of marinate on it. John six.
Speaker 1: We're still in John here, I guess John chapter six
Speaker 1: and John chapter ten. I I would marinate on these.
Speaker 1: I would just kind of meditate on these. And Chapter
Speaker 1: ten is the the chapter of Jesus being the good Shepherd,
Speaker 1: and he says, I have trouble in this light. We
Speaker 1: need to figure out a way to a way to
Speaker 1: read this in the light. Okay, So okay, I can't
Speaker 1: read it. Let me just do it my memory. I
Speaker 1: could do it my memory. Jesus says, my sheep hear
Speaker 1: my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
Speaker 1: I give them eternal life, and no one will snatch
Speaker 1: them out of my hand. Yeah, okay, my sheep hear
Speaker 1: my voice. I know them, and they follow me, and
Speaker 1: they will never perish. I give them eternal life, and
Speaker 1: no one will snatch them out of my hand.
Speaker 2: You said, And it may be the no one at
Speaker 2: the end of your message you were on Sunday. You're
Speaker 2: talking about this. Who the Father gives me come to me? Now?
Speaker 1: That's just so. That's John six. Yes, And what happens
Speaker 1: when Jesus says these kind of things is people get
Speaker 1: really angry. Verse thirty one. The Jews picked up stones
Speaker 1: again to stone him. They're going to Stone. And when
Speaker 1: Jesus talks like this, people get really offended. At the
Speaker 1: end of chapter six, they get really offended because he says,
Speaker 1: no one comes to me unless the Father who sent
Speaker 1: me draws from you. And all that the Father gives
Speaker 1: to me will come to me. And whoever comes to me,
Speaker 1: I'll never cast out. Yeah, and and people are leaving
Speaker 1: and droves when Jesus is saying these things. So once saved,
Speaker 1: always saved, it is always it's it's all over the Bible.
Speaker 1: And there is such Oh, brother James, there's such comfort
Speaker 1: in that doctrine. Yeah, there's such comfort to know everything
Speaker 1: we've talked about so far on this podcast. Everything we
Speaker 1: have a new creation. The spirit moves and blows life
Speaker 1: and wakes up dry bones like in Ezekiel thirty seven.
Speaker 1: The dry bones come to life as the spirit blows
Speaker 1: over them, and he makes new whoever's in Christ is
Speaker 1: a new creation. Behold the oldest or the oldest passed away.
Speaker 1: Behold the new has come. And you're you're born again.
Speaker 1: And you in John three, and you you're awakened that
Speaker 1: you're no longer dead in your trespasses. By grace, you've
Speaker 1: been saved through faith. This is not your own doing.
Speaker 1: And and then you think to yourself, can I possibly
Speaker 1: lose that? No, you can't lose that. You can't. When
Speaker 1: the spirit blows and moves and wakes up dry bones,
Speaker 1: you can't lose it. So take that. And anytime you sin,
Speaker 1: you you fall short or you drift, and you go no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I am his He's got me. I hear his voice.
Speaker 1: I hear the good shepherd. He has got me. And
Speaker 1: he said that I'll know his voice, and I know it,
Speaker 1: and he knows me, and I follow him, and I'll
Speaker 1: never perish and no one will snatch me out of
Speaker 1: his hand, including me and my and me being an idiot,
Speaker 1: I can't even I cannot mess this up. So I
Speaker 1: follow again, and then we're reassured that he's got us.
Speaker 1: That's what your fiance, your girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Because that sounds like that that's their issue. Is the
Speaker 2: Calvinist part of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and well we're not even dressing like calvin don't Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: don't talk about Calvinism. Talk about the scripture. Read from
Speaker 1: scripture exactly what Granger just said. Just leave Calvinism out
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to define that part.
Speaker 1: That's right. We would have to define what he's talking.
Speaker 1: What does Calvinism mean? I don't know what it means
Speaker 1: unless I hear what you're defining it as.
Speaker 2: Because there's horrible very this read Go read it and
Speaker 2: go do you believe that? I believe that you believe it? Yeah? Okay, cool,
Speaker 2: we both believe the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's take these silly definitions and titles out
Speaker 1: of it, and let's just let's just go look what
Speaker 1: Jesus says in Johnson and don't look at that as.
Speaker 2: A bad thing.
Speaker 1: That is a beautiful thing. And then someone goes, you're
Speaker 1: telling me I can be a Christian, go murder someone
Speaker 1: and I'm still good. I'll say no, brother, Once that
Speaker 1: spirit blows over you and you're born again, you won't
Speaker 1: want to sin. And when you do, you'll turn from
Speaker 1: it as fast as you can. Why because you the
Speaker 1: good Shepherd has got you in his hands.
Speaker 2: You had nothing to do with your first berth, Oh
Speaker 2: would you have anything to do? What would make you
Speaker 2: think that you had any power over the second one?
Speaker 1: I butchered James's question. That's not what he wanted to
Speaker 1: hear at all. I like you responsible marrier right now,
Speaker 1: maybe what's your t about earlier about what is a Christian?
Speaker 1: Will help? And that's true. Whatever he's asking, it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful it's a beautiful truth. It's like, that's like Lincoln saying, Daddy,
Speaker 1: if I mess up too much, will I not be
Speaker 1: your son?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine what would I say? I say you
Speaker 1: are my son, and there is nothing you could do
Speaker 1: to ever take that away from you. Your identity is
Speaker 1: you are my sons, like I have claimed you your mind.
Speaker 1: You've come from my blood. And Lincoln, there is nothing
Speaker 1: you could ever do that's so bad that I would
Speaker 1: say I disown you as my son. And if I
Speaker 1: could do that as an evil father, as an earthly,
Speaker 1: fleshly father, what would our father in heaven do with this? No,
Speaker 1: when he has claimed his children, he does not let
Speaker 1: them go.
Speaker 4: So good he who began good work, and you will
Speaker 4: bring it to completion on the day of Jesus Christ,
Speaker 4: who is called you as he is called, He's also predestined.
Speaker 2: He's presestined.
Speaker 3: He's also justified, and he who is justified will also
Speaker 3: be glorified.
Speaker 2: Hey man, think we in there.
Speaker 1: Grant you ever been in this passion on the podcast,
Speaker 1: you see him all the time. I'll watch them, but
Speaker 1: I like Bible on the table, my bros here and
Speaker 1: Man one.
Speaker 2: I think conversations. I think he's great at having conversations,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad we.
Speaker 1: Can the It's also different because when you have a
Speaker 1: guest here, you obviously want to ask and hear their story,
Speaker 1: and you obviously talked a lot. It was great, man,
Speaker 1: It's like I was at a sermon or something. That's
Speaker 1: how we ended, right there were Yeah, but let me
Speaker 1: make sure that this guy hasn't replied yet. He hasn't replied,
Speaker 1: just making sure that wasn't going to be the final
Speaker 1: part of the podcast. Is He replied and said, I
Speaker 1: believe Where can I get