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Speaker 1: Anthony Smith. Welcome, going on, we are, we're changing it up.

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Speaker 1: So I guess I should say this. We've been through

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Speaker 1: now this we're recording this the week that it releases,

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Speaker 1: so when people hear this, we will have just recorded it.

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Speaker 1: That's why we're here just a few days ago. We

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about this for a while and it

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Speaker 2: recording stuff, and Granger said, what about something like this?

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Speaker 1: So this is literally the next one after Josh.

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Speaker 2: What's funny is everything he was talking about? I go,

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Speaker 2: so you mean a morning show? So I'm just thinking radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you got you got all these different all

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll just bring everyone into this idea. But

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Speaker 1: you always bring in ant Man, but he's always off screen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we talked, we talk. He's everybody's always looking

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Speaker 1: Eventually we need to do that with Brian on the

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Speaker 1: E podcast. Bring him in so we could do We

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Speaker 1: could still answer questions, which you could. You could email

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Speaker 1: us podcast at grangersmith dot com.

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Speaker 2: We got some of those today.

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Speaker 1: We got some of those today. You could request guests.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that could be encouraging comment if

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Speaker 1: Really interested in you and hearing Elle's opinion on this

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Speaker 1: email podcast at grangersmith dot com.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you brought up something YouTube, so we're going to

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Speaker 2: start now talking about it, if that's cool, because we

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Speaker 2: actually where you are watching. If you're watching right now

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Speaker 2: on YouTube, it's moving from this channel. This podcast is

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Speaker 2: moving from this channel to its own Granger Smith Podcast

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel. Now, if you're already there on the Grangersmith

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Speaker 1: So the three hundredth episode stays on the grangers channel exactly.

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Speaker 1: So if what we said doesn't make sense, that's okay.

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Speaker 1: the Granger Smith podcast YouTube channel. So go there now

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Speaker 2: Yeah, channel, and we have some other things coming up

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Speaker 1: came to Jesus by night and said to him, Rabbi,

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Speaker 1: we know you are a teacher. Come from God. For

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Speaker 1: no one could do these signs that you do unless

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Speaker 1: God is with him. Jesus answered him, truly, truly, I

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Speaker 1: say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot

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Speaker 1: see the Kingdom of God. Nicodemus said to him, how

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Speaker 1: could a man be born when he is old? Can

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Speaker 1: he enter a second time into his mother's womb and

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Speaker 1: be born? Jesus answered, truly, truly, I say to you,

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Speaker 1: unless one is born of water and the spirit, he

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Speaker 1: cannot enter the Kingdom of God. That which is born

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Speaker 1: of the flesh is flesh, that which is born of

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Speaker 1: spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you,

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Speaker 1: you must be born again. The wind blows where it wishes,

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Speaker 1: and you hear it sound, but you do not know

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Speaker 1: where it comes from or where it goes. So it

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Speaker 1: is with every one who is born of the spirit.

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Speaker 1: Nicodemus said to him, how could these things be? Jesus

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Speaker 1: answered him, are you not the teacher of Israel? And

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Speaker 1: yet you do not understand these things? Truly, truly, I

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Speaker 1: say to you, we speak of what we know and

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Speaker 1: bear witness to what we have seen. But you do

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Speaker 1: not receive our testimony. If I told you earthly things

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Speaker 1: and you do not believe, how could you believe if

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Speaker 1: I tell you heavenly things. No one has ascended into

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Speaker 1: heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of

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Speaker 1: Man and Moses. And as Mo just lifted up the

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Speaker 1: serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man

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Speaker 1: be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have

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Speaker 1: eternal life. This is this was just on my heart.

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Speaker 1: And I have realized through this conversation with this man,

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Speaker 1: how many nicodemus Is are out there, how much I

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Speaker 1: was in Nicodemus my whole life, And how I wish

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Speaker 1: that someone would have grabbed my shoulders and said, Granger,

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Speaker 1: you are Nicodemus. You think you know, but what does

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Speaker 1: it mean? What does it mean to be a Christian?

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me? And I would and I would say,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Just like this man that I've been texting,

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Speaker 1: he was part of this group. I'm going to kind

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Speaker 1: of hide their identity, but he's part of a discipleship

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Speaker 1: group that I've spoken for spoken with before the Disciples

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Speaker 1: meant for years, two years at a time, their discipled

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Speaker 1: and then they become the disciple er, and then they

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Speaker 1: disciple others for two years, and yet he couldn't answer

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Speaker 1: the question what is a Christian? Yeah, it's haunting.

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Speaker 2: So are you going back and forth with him?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: So now I laid it all out in about four

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Speaker 1: as I was driving actually to hear old podcast nice

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Speaker 1: where that's what they sound.

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Speaker 2: The voice text.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I start with the gospel, and I

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Speaker 1: start with I start with the you know, God created

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Speaker 1: and it was good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And since the rebellion of Adam in the garden, we

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Speaker 1: have become separated from God. It's it's very scary because

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Speaker 1: Isaiah in chapter fifty nine says, your iniquities have caused

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Speaker 1: a separation between you and your God, and your sins

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Speaker 1: have hidden his face from you so that he does

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Speaker 1: not hear. That's scary. So what do we do we're

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Speaker 1: separated from We can't do anything that. In Romans chapter five,

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Speaker 1: Paul talks about how we are under God's wrath, that

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Speaker 1: we are enemies of God. That is not theology that

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Speaker 1: people talk about in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I thought God loves you, yeah right, and accepts

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Speaker 1: you the way you are, Yeah right. So to that,

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Speaker 1: what Paul's argument is in Romans five point eight is

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Speaker 1: that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

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Speaker 1: That's that's how he shows his love for us, not

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Speaker 1: because he loves us where we are, but he loves

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Speaker 1: us that he sent his only son while we are

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Speaker 1: still sinners, to die for us. And so I'm unpacking

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Speaker 1: this in a lot more that I was saying about

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Speaker 1: how God enters his own creation as a man and

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Speaker 1: a son, the son of God, as Jesus, who lived

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Speaker 1: that perfect life that we all try to live to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, morally right, because everyone's trying to live a

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Speaker 1: good life and be moral and you know, character improvement.

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Speaker 1: Jesus lives all with that perfectly. Yeah, God cannot. If

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Speaker 1: God is a God of love, then he must despise

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Speaker 1: what is not good and clean and moral and upright

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Speaker 1: and perfect and just and sincere and gracious and compassionate.

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Speaker 1: He must despise anything that's not those things because He

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Speaker 1: is perfect and none of those things could be part

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Speaker 1: of his world. And so where does that leave us

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Speaker 1: Isaiah fifty nine separated? He's not even hearing, but because

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Speaker 1: of his great love for his people, he sends his

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Speaker 1: son into the world to live that perfect life, become

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Speaker 1: the sacrifice on the cross, to take the sins of

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Speaker 1: his people into his body as a punishment, the punishment

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Speaker 1: we deserved into his body. So he becomes that sacrifice

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Speaker 1: of the lamb or the dove or the cow. He

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Speaker 1: becomes that final ultimate sacrifice, saying that now I have

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Speaker 1: replaced that, I have become the substitute for all what

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Speaker 1: you deserve. I told the guy, it's like this. You're

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Speaker 1: in death row, and the crime you've committed is murder

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Speaker 1: of the highest court. You murder a homeless guy, that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a bad that's a bad thing, right, But

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Speaker 1: you murder a police officer, it's a really bad thing.

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Speaker 1: You murder a senator in the United States, that's a

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Speaker 1: really really bad thing. You assassinate the president, that is

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Speaker 1: that is a horribly bad thing for you. What if

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Speaker 1: you send against a holy God, creator of the universe, right,

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Speaker 1: you committed an adultery against him. You've hated him in

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Speaker 1: your heart, thus murdering him as we did on Christ

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Speaker 1: on the Cross. What kind of punishment do we deserve.

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Speaker 1: So we're on death row, like that kind of death row,

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Speaker 1: waiting that kind of punishment, and a man steps in

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Speaker 1: and goes, take me instead, let him go. Everything you

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Speaker 1: were going to do to this, to you, everything you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Do to him, put it on me.

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Speaker 1: Put it on me. And then the judge comes in,

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Speaker 1: he goes, you're free to go. So because of that,

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Speaker 1: flowing from that, we look back on that and it

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Speaker 1: is then we go, I will live my life honoring you.

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Speaker 1: You set me free Galatians five to one for freedom.

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Speaker 1: What if your parker's wearing it? For freedom? Christ, to

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Speaker 1: set us free, Stand firm therefore, and do not submit

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Speaker 1: again to the yoke of slavery. So from then overflowing

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Speaker 1: we become morally upright as we walk in the works,

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Speaker 1: the good works prepared for us. Ephesians too, because of

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Speaker 1: what Jesus did on that cross. Not and we didn't

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Speaker 1: earn our salvation, No, it's a result of it. So

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Speaker 1: so then knowing that we go, okay, well, what in

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Speaker 1: the world this is? Not? How does God then look

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Speaker 1: at us and think that we're okay? You know? Because

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Speaker 1: he looks at us and we were in Christ, he

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Speaker 1: sees Christ righteousness, Christ righteousness put on us, which is

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Speaker 1: this is the miracle. So let me go where I

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Speaker 1: went to this guy in Ephesians two. You were dead

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Speaker 1: in your trespasses and sins in which you once walked, Okay,

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Speaker 1: following the course of this world, following the prince of

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Speaker 1: the power of the air. The spirit is now the

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Speaker 1: same spirit that's now in work in the sons of disobedience,

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Speaker 1: among whom we all once lived, and the passions of

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Speaker 1: our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and

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Speaker 1: the mind. And we're by nature. Here's this crazy thing.

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Speaker 1: By nature. We were children of wrath, separated from God,

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Speaker 1: dead in our trespasses, by nature, children of wrath Romans five,

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Speaker 1: enemies of God. That's not a message heard too often, right,

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Speaker 1: But God verse four being rich in mercy because of

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Speaker 1: the great love with which He loved them us, even

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Speaker 1: when we were dead and our trespasses, made us alive

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Speaker 1: together with Christ. By grace. You've been saved and raised

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Speaker 1: up with Him and seated us with Him in the

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Speaker 1: heavenly places. In Christ Jesus, so that in the coming

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Speaker 1: ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace

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Speaker 1: and kindness towards us in Christ Jesus, for by grace

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Speaker 1: you've been saved through faith. This is not your own doing.

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Speaker 1: It is the gift of God, not a result the works.

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Speaker 1: So that no one may boast incredible. A Christian is

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Speaker 1: a new creation. Whoever is in Christ is now a

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Speaker 1: new creation. The oldest passed away, the news come a

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Speaker 1: new creation saved by grace because of what Christ did

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Speaker 1: on the cross.

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Speaker 2: That's a Christian.

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Speaker 1: There, it is good podcast. There it is a new creation. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So did he get there yet? He hasn't replied yet,

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Speaker 1: check one war time. He has not replied, he said.

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Speaker 1: He replied and said, thank you so much for sending these.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I'm in a quiet place to listen.

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Speaker 1: So if you would ask me that, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: said a new creation. Well, I technically we could answer

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Speaker 1: a lot of different gospel. But yeah, I mean I would.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying because I was for the whole time. I

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Speaker 1: was like, what is it Christian? What would I say?

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Speaker 1: And I just got to the point where it's like Jesus,

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Speaker 1: like anytime I'm like in it in this spot where

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Speaker 1: I don't know the answer, I'm just like Jesus. Well,

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Speaker 1: you could say you could use John three and say

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Speaker 1: someone that's born again by the spirit. You could say

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Speaker 1: that someone someone that's someone that's bought by the blood

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Speaker 1: of Christ, someone that's been made new, purchased, ransom, redeemed, restored, forgiven,

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Speaker 1: all of those, all those are appropriated.

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Speaker 3: You think that you would say he was answering in

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Speaker 3: terms of what a Christian does. You are now answering

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Speaker 3: into what has been done to the Christian to define

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Speaker 3: it happens.

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Speaker 1: So let's go back to the light bulb. Is a

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Speaker 1: light bulb?

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Speaker 2: What is a sandwich? Well, it's it's meat that has

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Speaker 2: been sliced and has been carved and put on bread. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and if you'd like lettuce and tomato and mayo, then

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Speaker 2: that's on there too. Yeah, there's your sandwich.

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Speaker 1: YEA. The illustration of the light bulb. What's a light bulb?

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Speaker 1: Would say, let's it's a a glass globe with filament inside,

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Speaker 1: and you plug a cord into a power source and

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Speaker 1: electricity flows through the power source and lights up the

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Speaker 1: filament and the light bulb is is is the new

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Speaker 1: life caused by the plugging into the power source and

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Speaker 1: it omits light, that's a light bulb instead of the

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Speaker 1: opposite would be saying a light bulb shines or makes

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Speaker 1: bride or that's all the result. That's true. What he

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Speaker 1: said is true of what Christians do. But but a

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Speaker 1: Christian is a new creation, in plugged into the power

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Speaker 1: source of Christ, made new, restored, ransom, forgiven, Once a

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Speaker 1: child of wrath by nature, now a child of God,

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Speaker 1: adopted as a son, an heir to the kingdom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an offensive message. You are telling people that

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Speaker 3: they're dead and sick.

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Speaker 2: And that they need to there's also you know, go ahead,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say when you said for grace, for

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Speaker 1: by grace you have been saved through faith, it's like

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Speaker 1: that's in every girl's Instagram bio or or you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's like and it's it's amazing. It's an amazing verse.

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Speaker 1: And it is true. It comes from the Bible. It

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Speaker 1: is true. Just go back up to the beginning with

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Speaker 1: what you were saying. How many of those people that

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Speaker 1: have that in their bio know that you were dead

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Speaker 1: and your trespasses and sins in which you once walked,

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Speaker 1: like just the fear and the wrath of God and

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Speaker 1: who he is. It's just so important. Like I used

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Speaker 1: to cherrypick verses all the time too, and then it's

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Speaker 1: like I have no idea what else this means or

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Speaker 1: what in context we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: So you said that that is offensive and very well

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Speaker 2: known either agnostic or atheist. Part of the duel, the

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Speaker 2: magic duo Penn and Teller. I think it's pen Is

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Speaker 2: he was. I've been seeing this video that's going around

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Speaker 2: of him talking about how much you have to hate

658
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Speaker 2: the other person to not share the gospel with them.

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Speaker 2: If you're a Christian and you believe that, how much

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Speaker 2: do you have to hate the person to not share

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Speaker 2: this news with them? Yeah, that's from an atheist.

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Speaker 1: So the illustration I started the whole service with was

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Speaker 1: Steve Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And when I first read that, I thought, oh, this

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Speaker 1: is this is us Because Steve Jobs was told he

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Speaker 1: had cancer and it was treatable cancer if he had

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Speaker 1: just had surgery. Doctors urged him, you need immediate surgery,

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Speaker 1: we can fix this and he said, now I'll try

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Speaker 1: to fix it myself acupuncture and special diet, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was me. That's my testimony. Yeah, I thought I

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Speaker 1: could do it all too So when you said that

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Speaker 1: about Steve and the sermon, I was like, Yep, that

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Speaker 1: was me. Yeah, I said he was. He was an

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Speaker 1: extraordinary thinker, so it's no surprise he could try to

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Speaker 1: outthink cancer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Eventually he got so sick he had to have the surgery,

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Speaker 1: but it was too late.

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Speaker 2: And he died, went everywhere else in his body. Right.

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Speaker 1: He died because he thought he could fix himself. That

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Speaker 1: is the story of moralism, and that is the story

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Speaker 1: of character modification that we preach as as we think

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Speaker 1: we're Christians and we think we're we're supposed we think

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Speaker 1: being a Christian is living a good life and stamping

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Speaker 1: Jesus on that and keep doing that. Keep doing that, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to disciple you to keep on doing good things.

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Speaker 1: And what you're doing is you're teaching people to heal

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Speaker 1: themselves from a cancer that is killing them unless they

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Speaker 1: get a heart transplant surgery.

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Speaker 2: Well, who here growing up, did you hear that the

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Speaker 2: word Christian meant someone who follows Christ in a essence

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Speaker 2: something that you do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it reminds me of the It reminds me of

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Speaker 3: the WWJD bracelets And what would Jesus do? And that

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Speaker 3: can be a great message, but I think it can

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Speaker 3: also be extremely hazardous when you think that the primary

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Speaker 3: message of Christianity is just do what Jesus did. That's

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Speaker 3: the message be a good person when you can't be.

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Speaker 3: And so I always remember the quote in the documentary

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Speaker 3: American Gospel. They say the message of Christianity is not.

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Speaker 2: What would Jesus do?

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Speaker 3: Now go and do that. The message is what has

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Speaker 3: Jesus done?

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Speaker 2: Believe that? Oh that's Awesome's always remember that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we that And to be fair, idea, the idea

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Speaker 1: of that, I mean that that word Christian actually comes

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Speaker 1: from little Christ. That was that was a derogatory phrase

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Speaker 1: to the like, look at those little Christs, you know,

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Speaker 1: they fallen their little savior Jesus there. Yeah, don't give

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Speaker 1: you on that. They're following that. That was a derogatory term,

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Speaker 1: but we have it since embraced it. It happens in the

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Speaker 1: Bible and antihok was the first time they were called

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Speaker 1: Christian's book of Access. So that that Parker's right, following Christ,

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Speaker 1: that's absolutely what a Christian does.

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Speaker 3: You Paul says, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So be a little Christ absolutely do what he

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Speaker 1: would do? What would Christ what was.

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Speaker 2: Do this?

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Speaker 1: But that message is for believers. That's for butterflies who

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Speaker 1: were already out of the cocoon and you're telling them

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Speaker 1: to go drink nectar. At good point, but not a caterpillar.

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Speaker 1: Caterpillar needs to be reborn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You can't tell a caterpillar to eat nectar. Yeah, or fly,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. They need to

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Speaker 1: be reborn.

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Speaker 2: Great point. That was a great message. And like you said,

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Speaker 2: how long have I been talking too?

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Speaker 1: Well, Hey, you're going to say something, do you remember?

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Speaker 2: No, No, it wasn't a sorial show. It wasn't important.

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Speaker 2: It was important, you remember, I No.

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Speaker 1: I just my default is always just like when when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about your acts and what you do, whenever

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Speaker 1: I find myself saying me and what I'm going to do,

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Speaker 1: I'm backtracked about you. And if I don't, I'm just

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Speaker 1: like Jesus. It's because of what Jesus did, not what

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Speaker 1: anything that I did.

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Speaker 3: So good John, that's actually this is actually John three. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: this last thing I'll say, But you're talking about the

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Speaker 3: caterpillar can't because it's not been born again, John three, nineteen,

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Speaker 3: right after right after your sermon, this is the judgment.

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Speaker 3: The light has come into the world, and people love

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Speaker 3: the darkness rather than the light because their works for evil.

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Speaker 3: For everyone who does wicked things hates the lights and

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Speaker 3: does not come to the light lest his works be exposed.

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Speaker 3: Like not only do they not want to like they

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Speaker 3: they don't want to and they cannot like they must

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Speaker 3: be born.

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Speaker 1: Again, Marshall. By the time this podcast comes out, Marshall

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Speaker 1: will have just preached that yesterday. So if he wants

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Speaker 1: to hear whatever he has to say about it, it

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Speaker 1: is on the.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, I'll put me in Marshall's Yeah, in the links.

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Speaker 2: You want to answer a.

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Speaker 1: Question, yes, thank you. We haven't done that in a while.

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Speaker 2: This one comes from James. This is uh, not the

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Speaker 2: book of James the person James. Hey Granger. My name

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Speaker 2: is James. I'm twenty and I'm currently deployed overseas and

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Speaker 2: will have been gone for ten months in July. I

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Speaker 2: really value your advice and right now, with the environment

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Speaker 2: I'm in, I could really use some godly wisdom. I'm

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Speaker 2: dating a girl named Kris. We've been dating for nineteen

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Speaker 2: months now and we've been discussing marriage. She's a Christian

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Speaker 2: in her family is a good, godly family. I came

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Speaker 2: from a pastor's home, being brought up in a holiness church.

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Speaker 2: My views on lots of things differ from my girlfriends.

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Speaker 2: She goes to a church that believes in Calvinism pretty much,

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Speaker 2: so we differ greatly. She believes in once saved, always saved,

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Speaker 2: which I find extremely difficult to agree with from a

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Speaker 2: logical standpoint and from a biblical perspective. We've discussed this

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Speaker 2: all before and she's confident that we can make it work,

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Speaker 2: but I'm not so sure. I'm positive we could run

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Speaker 2: into lots of issues, especially with parenting children together. I

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Speaker 2: guess my question is, do you think that these are

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Speaker 2: things that we can that we could work out with

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Speaker 2: some time, or is this where we need to go

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Speaker 2: our separate ways. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Speaker 1: Marry her as quick as possible.

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Speaker 2: He's overseas, so we jump on zoom.

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Speaker 1: Come home and marry. Or she sees a marrying type.

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Speaker 1: No kidding, right, Okay, you guys got I mean my

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Speaker 1: favorite There's two chapters James that I that I would

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Speaker 1: love to see kind of marinate on it. John six.

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Speaker 1: We're still in John here, I guess John chapter six

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Speaker 1: and John chapter ten. I I would marinate on these.

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Speaker 1: I would just kind of meditate on these. And Chapter

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Speaker 1: ten is the the chapter of Jesus being the good Shepherd,

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Speaker 1: and he says, I have trouble in this light. We

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Speaker 1: need to figure out a way to a way to

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Speaker 1: read this in the light. Okay, So okay, I can't

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Speaker 1: read it. Let me just do it my memory. I

793
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Speaker 1: could do it my memory. Jesus says, my sheep hear

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Speaker 1: my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.

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Speaker 1: I give them eternal life, and no one will snatch

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Speaker 1: them out of my hand. Yeah, okay, my sheep hear

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Speaker 1: my voice. I know them, and they follow me, and

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Speaker 1: they will never perish. I give them eternal life, and

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Speaker 1: no one will snatch them out of my hand.

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Speaker 2: You said, And it may be the no one at

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Speaker 2: the end of your message you were on Sunday. You're

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Speaker 2: talking about this. Who the Father gives me come to me? Now?

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Speaker 1: That's just so. That's John six. Yes, And what happens

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Speaker 1: when Jesus says these kind of things is people get

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Speaker 1: really angry. Verse thirty one. The Jews picked up stones

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Speaker 1: again to stone him. They're going to Stone. And when

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Speaker 1: Jesus talks like this, people get really offended. At the

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Speaker 1: end of chapter six, they get really offended because he says,

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Speaker 1: no one comes to me unless the Father who sent

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Speaker 1: me draws from you. And all that the Father gives

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Speaker 1: to me will come to me. And whoever comes to me,

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Speaker 1: I'll never cast out. Yeah, and and people are leaving

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Speaker 1: and droves when Jesus is saying these things. So once saved,

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Speaker 1: always saved, it is always it's it's all over the Bible.

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Speaker 1: And there is such Oh, brother James, there's such comfort

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Speaker 1: in that doctrine. Yeah, there's such comfort to know everything

817
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Speaker 1: we've talked about so far on this podcast. Everything we

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Speaker 1: have a new creation. The spirit moves and blows life

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Speaker 1: and wakes up dry bones like in Ezekiel thirty seven.

820
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Speaker 1: The dry bones come to life as the spirit blows

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Speaker 1: over them, and he makes new whoever's in Christ is

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Speaker 1: a new creation. Behold the oldest or the oldest passed away.

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Speaker 1: Behold the new has come. And you're you're born again.

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Speaker 1: And you in John three, and you you're awakened that

825
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Speaker 1: you're no longer dead in your trespasses. By grace, you've

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Speaker 1: been saved through faith. This is not your own doing.

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Speaker 1: And and then you think to yourself, can I possibly

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Speaker 1: lose that? No, you can't lose that. You can't. When

829
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Speaker 1: the spirit blows and moves and wakes up dry bones,

830
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Speaker 1: you can't lose it. So take that. And anytime you sin,

831
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Speaker 1: you you fall short or you drift, and you go no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I am his He's got me. I hear his voice.

833
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Speaker 1: I hear the good shepherd. He has got me. And

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Speaker 1: he said that I'll know his voice, and I know it,

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Speaker 1: and he knows me, and I follow him, and I'll

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Speaker 1: never perish and no one will snatch me out of

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Speaker 1: his hand, including me and my and me being an idiot,

838
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Speaker 1: I can't even I cannot mess this up. So I

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Speaker 1: follow again, and then we're reassured that he's got us.

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Speaker 1: That's what your fiance, your girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Because that sounds like that that's their issue. Is the

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Speaker 2: Calvinist part of it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and well we're not even dressing like calvin don't Yeah, look,

844
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Speaker 1: don't talk about Calvinism. Talk about the scripture. Read from

845
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Speaker 1: scripture exactly what Granger just said. Just leave Calvinism out

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm trying to define that part.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We would have to define what he's talking.

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Speaker 1: What does Calvinism mean? I don't know what it means

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Speaker 1: unless I hear what you're defining it as.

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Speaker 2: Because there's horrible very this read Go read it and

852
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: go do you believe that? I believe that you believe it? Yeah? Okay, cool,

853
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: we both believe the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's take these silly definitions and titles out

855
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Speaker 1: of it, and let's just let's just go look what

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Speaker 1: Jesus says in Johnson and don't look at that as.

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Speaker 2: A bad thing.

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Speaker 1: That is a beautiful thing. And then someone goes, you're

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Speaker 1: telling me I can be a Christian, go murder someone

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Speaker 1: and I'm still good. I'll say no, brother, Once that

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Speaker 1: spirit blows over you and you're born again, you won't

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Speaker 1: want to sin. And when you do, you'll turn from

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Speaker 1: it as fast as you can. Why because you the

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Speaker 1: good Shepherd has got you in his hands.

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Speaker 2: You had nothing to do with your first berth, Oh

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Speaker 2: would you have anything to do? What would make you

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Speaker 2: think that you had any power over the second one?

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Speaker 1: I butchered James's question. That's not what he wanted to

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Speaker 1: hear at all. I like you responsible marrier right now,

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Speaker 1: maybe what's your t about earlier about what is a Christian?

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Speaker 1: Will help? And that's true. Whatever he's asking, it's a

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Speaker 1: beautiful it's a beautiful truth. It's like, that's like Lincoln saying, Daddy,

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Speaker 1: if I mess up too much, will I not be

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Speaker 1: your son?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine what would I say? I say you

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Speaker 1: are my son, and there is nothing you could do

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Speaker 1: to ever take that away from you. Your identity is

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Speaker 1: you are my sons, like I have claimed you your mind.

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Speaker 1: You've come from my blood. And Lincoln, there is nothing

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Speaker 1: you could ever do that's so bad that I would

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Speaker 1: say I disown you as my son. And if I

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Speaker 1: could do that as an evil father, as an earthly,

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Speaker 1: fleshly father, what would our father in heaven do with this? No,

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Speaker 1: when he has claimed his children, he does not let

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Speaker 1: them go.

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Speaker 4: So good he who began good work, and you will

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Speaker 4: bring it to completion on the day of Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 4: who is called you as he is called, He's also predestined.

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Speaker 2: He's presestined.

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Speaker 3: He's also justified, and he who is justified will also

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Speaker 3: be glorified.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, think we in there.

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Speaker 1: Grant you ever been in this passion on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: you see him all the time. I'll watch them, but

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Speaker 1: I like Bible on the table, my bros here and

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Speaker 1: Man one.

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Speaker 2: I think conversations. I think he's great at having conversations,

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Speaker 2: and I'm glad we.

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Speaker 1: Can the It's also different because when you have a

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Speaker 1: guest here, you obviously want to ask and hear their story,

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Speaker 1: and you obviously talked a lot. It was great, man,

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Speaker 1: It's like I was at a sermon or something. That's

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Speaker 1: how we ended, right there were Yeah, but let me

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Speaker 1: make sure that this guy hasn't replied yet. He hasn't replied,

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Speaker 1: just making sure that wasn't going to be the final

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Speaker 1: part of the podcast. Is He replied and said, I

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Speaker 1: believe Where can I get