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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's another very interesting show here on Coast to Coast AM.

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Speaker 2: Connie Willis with you, and I hope that you'll join

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Speaker 2: psychic spy. But when I was taking one of his

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Speaker 2: You know you want to learn all the secrets of

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Speaker 2: remote teachers, you know what we do. But Lynn had

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Speaker 2: taught me a way to find numbers, a way to

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Speaker 2: pick numbers using a pendulum, and I had said, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, can I do something with that? At one

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Speaker 2: point he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I

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Speaker 2: put it in a book and soon i'll have a

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Speaker 2: course out. I know, I haven't finished that yet either.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, these little things that I just got

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Speaker 2: to get finished. But now I can do it for

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Speaker 2: some technical reasons, but anyway, it helps you using the

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Speaker 2: pendulum and a set of numbers of how to pick

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Speaker 2: winning numbers. And it's so fun when you got it's

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Speaker 2: called when any lottery. You can go to Amazon, you'll

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Speaker 2: see it there. There's one and two. You know, if

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Speaker 2: you get the first one, you're pretty much set on

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Speaker 2: the second one. But if you get the second one,

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Speaker 2: just then you don't need the first one. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: not trying to just you know, steal from you. So

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Speaker 2: pick one or the other. But uh, there's people once

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Speaker 2: they start taking it. Once you read it, it's a

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Speaker 2: very easy read and you do it, you go, oh,

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Speaker 2: I understand how this can really work, and you will.

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Speaker 2: So if you're really good with your intuition and a pendulum.

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Speaker 2: If you say, I've never used a pendulum, but if

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Speaker 2: you're good with intuition. Well, that's just a tool that

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Speaker 2: extends your intuition. You're gonna be fine with it. But

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Speaker 2: if you're great for the pendulum, you're gonna go. I

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Speaker 2: am going to win some even if it's consistent money,

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Speaker 2: you still will believe that you have a possibility of

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Speaker 2: the jackpot. And I hope you do. And if you do,

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Speaker 2: don't be quiet about it. Let me know. I think

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Speaker 2: it'll be great. I won't say give me half. We

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Speaker 2: didn't sign that deal. You're good to go, but I

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Speaker 2: want to know if you did, because I think that

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Speaker 2: would be pretty exciting because that's what it's there for,

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Speaker 2: and I know it's possible. So that's when any lottery

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Speaker 2: Just go to Connie Willis dot com to learn more.

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Speaker 2: And I appreciate it so much. You guys have been great.

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Speaker 2: You send me great emails and just really kind words,

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Speaker 2: and I really do appreciate that. You stand out so much.

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Speaker 2: The Penny Royal Podcast. You can go to the Pennyroyalpodcast

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Speaker 2: dot com and our guest tonight. That's what it's all about. Then,

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Speaker 2: Paul Isaac, He's been on before with Richard Serett. Like

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Speaker 2: I said, I can't believe Richard got you on Nathan

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Speaker 2: before me. I'm like, oh my gosh. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: a fellow Kentuckian. But Richard's good that way, he knows

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Speaker 2: what he's doing. I love Richard. He's a great guy.

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Speaker 2: But now here you are, and you know, you were

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Speaker 2: talking about the Penny Royal podcast before. You do have

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Speaker 2: some updates since you've last been oncos was a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago. But before you get into any of

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Speaker 2: the other updates that you have finished telling that story

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Speaker 2: about the bones the Bone people in Kentucky where they

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Speaker 2: were going and doing this whole big thing and then nothing,

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Speaker 2: nothing was there, nothing was found at all. Well, how

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Speaker 2: I don't understand where the Bone people come from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I love the you know, televised right

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Speaker 3: Lines in Weshington Local Network.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Right tried to find this this location, right But the

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Speaker 3: old books, the historical surveys, they mentioned and they refer

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Speaker 3: you know, Lexington, Kentucky and supposedly and this is where

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Speaker 3: I've always loved that. I think it's you know, living

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Speaker 3: where all the Wildcats and basketball games are played. That

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Speaker 3: little rise right there right is hollow. There's a giant

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Speaker 3: dig twice as deep because of this cave system at

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Speaker 2: Oh, I had no idea, you know, I do know

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Speaker 2: that when you walk in different you know, any of

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Speaker 2: the woods, wooded areas anywhere, you've got to be careful

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Speaker 2: that you just don't fall into a hole.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: Literally you'll fall into holes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And that's the thing about the Penny Roll

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Speaker 3: that's one of the defining features of this region is

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Speaker 3: that it's a karst region. Because of all the limestone

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Speaker 3: and the sandstone the water right and that's why we

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Speaker 3: have the largest cave system in the in the world

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Speaker 3: is Mammoth Caves. Is because Kentucky has all this limestone,

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Speaker 3: the sandstone, and so it's carved out this crazy landscape

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Speaker 3: of sinkholes and caves and chambers, and it stretches all

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Speaker 3: with the Sloan's Valley Cave system, which is the thirteenth

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Speaker 3: largest cave system in North America, and it connects with

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Speaker 3: it's there's a there's a strange subterranean current that kind

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Speaker 3: are three major spikes of geomagnetic energy right in the

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Speaker 3: the Daniel the National Force is, is the largest spike

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Speaker 3: of geo mechanic energy in North America. And then you

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Speaker 3: it all in all of these satellite surveys, and I

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Speaker 3: It's just there are so many stories, and I think

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Speaker 3: Is that I think there's a concentration of strange stories

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Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting. I had no idea. I had no

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Speaker 2: Interesting. I'm just you got me thinking.

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Speaker 3: Now, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: If we go back to the tunnels, you know, well

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Speaker 2: Mammoth Cave, you get all the caves and you have

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Speaker 2: all these tunnel systems. Are you familiar with the tunnel

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we think. Is it called Louisville Underground is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yeah, Well, we do a

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Speaker 2: to do it where George Norri will We'll call out

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Speaker 2: where's Willison. I'll be somewhere and you know, and I'll

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Speaker 2: say where I'm at. And one of the times I

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Speaker 2: they have these great Christmas lights for you to drive

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Speaker 2: deep into this tunne it's like a mile down, I think,

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Speaker 2: and then you're just driving through all these great lights.

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Speaker 2: I like the way they used to do it. They

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Speaker 2: But but I actually went to those tunnels when when

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Speaker 2: on later at night, right, And and the tunnel system

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Speaker 2: remember all that the guy said, of how far it goes,

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Speaker 2: But I was at one point he went off to

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Speaker 2: because it's underground, a mile underground, and so you rely

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Speaker 2: I mean, so he had it on where he you know,

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Speaker 3: Right is so such an interesting place too, because Waverley

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Speaker 2: It's a crazy place. I got friends. I'm friends with

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Speaker 2: Nathan, your time is up.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you later. Bye. Come on, you're not worthy.

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Speaker 2: Oh you gotta go. When you pull up to it,

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Speaker 1: You have to go.

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Speaker 3: Well, a friend of mine actually just recently had contacted me.

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Speaker 3: He was going to buy going to buy a house

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, that's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: Well, they were looking to do a hotel with it,

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Speaker 2: do all this investigations. They have areas you can sleep

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Speaker 2: Connie sent you. I don't know what it'll get you.

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Speaker 2: They might say, get out of here.

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Speaker 3: But you've been there, right, Have you investigated? Have you

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Speaker 3: have you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And with my own show we do a lot there.

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Speaker 2: We do a private investigations with them overnight. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they've been good to me.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: We've known each other for a while, so yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: grow but I didn't know it when I was living there.

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Speaker 3: Well, also, you know, being some loill have you heard

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Speaker 3: Have you heard that story?

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Speaker 3: No, God, I can't think of the top of my

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: There's some spooky, creepy things from that.

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