1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Look Mayer. Oh, I see you, my own Bowen. Look 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: over there is that culture. Yes, wow, lost cult ding 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: dong loss calling, making eye contact, making eye contact with 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: all my girls and getting tact tied, tactile. We're doing 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: things a little differently. We're gonna try something new. You're back. 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm back. Thank you for holding it down, girl. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: I would only appreciate it. Hold it down for my 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: number one girl, my number one girl. You really got 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: into it. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: There were a couple episodes there that I felt like 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: my sister would be proud of. Oh my god. I 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: just wanted to make it browd you, oh, brimming with pride. 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: And I was listening to the Dave Mazzoni mariefounton episode 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: the same time I learned what limerens was. 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: What's limerens? It's like when you're obsessed with someone. Basically, 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: it's just like a fancier term for like when you're 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: obsessed with someone. Well that's good, yeah, And that's how 18 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: you know that Bowen Nang is back. Now there's a 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: vocabulary limerence. Can I give it a crack at spelling it? Yes? Yes, go, 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna nail it. L I M E 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: R A n c E. 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: They never said I wasn't a good speller, girl. We've 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: talked about spelling these in the past, haven't weed Were 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: you spelling me? I lost at the words satellite in 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: the fourth grade, and you really did? 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Can you spell it? Well? First of all, can you 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: spell it now? I don't know. Try I know how 28 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: to spell it. S A T E L L I T. 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: You did it. I think I added an extra tea 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: in there. What I did? 31 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: I think I did S A T T E. Oh, 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: I remember it like it was yesterday. It is a 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: core motherfucking memory. 34 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: When you lose the spelling me and they say to you, 35 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the word never leaves you. No, I'm sorry 36 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: that is incorrect. I'm the use of the word incorrect 37 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: as a weapon, and it usually is a weapon. 38 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: We're getting We're picking up on so much stuff. By 39 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: the way, my Colorado king over there wearing a Colorado shirt? 40 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: Where are you from? I love him? 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's that's even better. So then you found 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: Colorado and you liked it enough to buy a shirt. 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: Absolute perfect, really good. That's what I like to hear. 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: Spend time there and you were missing I know, Okay, 45 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: tell me. But first of all, I want. 46 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: To say, yeah, what do you want to say that? 47 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you everyone for I mean, 48 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: there was really such a perfect level of understanding. Not 49 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: that I expected anything less, but everyone got it, you know, 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: and like that's the kind of people that I think 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: are like in this little world of ours, and that's 52 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: I'm really really grateful. 53 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: So well, I mean, all I ever want and all 54 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: we ever want is for you to feel like you 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: are having fun doing this, because like this is just 56 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: like this should be the cherry on top. 57 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: Of life, honey, this is the cherry on top of 58 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: the cake, in the words of Uba a new Real Housewives, 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: and the cherry on top of the cake. 60 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: These housewives don't know about what cherry's sort of like 61 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: relation to desserts are, because see Lisa Barlow also was 62 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: like it's the cherry on top of the icing, on 63 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: top of the cake. These women don't know dessert culture 64 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: or cherry culture. You know, they're not eating dessert. 65 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: They're not eating there. I mean, they're not eating caviar either. Apparently, Okay, 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: they are eating caviar, well not really, not really. 67 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So without pivoting too hard from this topic at hand, 68 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: we will get into, of course neuronian all the culture 69 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: because it was a we can only describe this last 70 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: weekend as cultural cultural. But what I want to know 71 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: from you, and I think that everyone wants to know 72 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: that listens, is how are you feeling? 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: I feel really good. I'm like getting better. I think 74 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: there are like specific things that I have to do 75 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: that are happening this week. 76 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: Good for you. So you're gonna see about a girl. 77 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see about a girl. 78 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna see about some dolls and the 79 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: Valley of the doll sense, but not the bad dolls. 80 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: It literally was Valley of the Dolls for a second 81 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: where I was like on the wrong dolls. 82 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: You were on the wrong door. So you feel that 83 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: And this is nothing against anyone who's loving particular doll, 84 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: and this doll makes should I say the dolls. 85 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: I was on Welbutrin and I got and full transparency. 86 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: I got a low dose of adult just to help 87 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: with the travel, just to help with with adjusting to 88 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: the hours. Just kind of really like it's not working. 89 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: And I was talking to some friends last night about 90 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: how Walbutrin really is not doing it for a lot 91 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: of people, and if it's working for you, god bless. 92 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: But Wellbutrin wasn't for me. 93 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: I think that this is what I had heard about 94 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: Wellbutrin when I was sort of stepping into my new 95 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: era of not ignoring my mental health or being like 96 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: I have a big plate, I can handle a lot, 97 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: like this is just what feelings are, you know what 98 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean? And so I think that when I finally 99 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: was ready to like actually engage and take accountability over 100 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: my mental health, well Bututrin was sort of like I 101 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: was warned against it just because I identify as a pretty 102 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: anxious person and I've heard that like when you're dealing 103 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: with anxiety that maybe isn't the girl totally. And so 104 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: when you were saying you were struggling, and I was like, well, 105 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: maybe it's because the well Buttrin of it all is 106 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: just like I do think of you as a little anxious. 107 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: You know, I'm anxious, right. I know. 108 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: Certain people I mean won't name names, had like an 109 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: issue with the word personalization. It is like the clinical 110 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: term for like what I was, what I am experiencing. 111 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: And so if you don't know what it is, you 112 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: could always like fucking look it up, or you can 113 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: be less obtuse. 114 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: And this is a self knowledge journey that we're on 115 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: for me at least, and we'll just leave it at that, 116 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: because otherwise it gets too it gets a little cloying, 117 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: which it shouldn't be. 118 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? 119 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: Like if I start talking a little too much about 120 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: how like, oh I am completely disconnected from like yeah, 121 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: these like really important elements of like who I am, right, 122 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: then people start to sort of check out, which, of course, 123 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: like they don't know what I'm talking about because it's 124 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: hard for me to even drill down too specifically into that. 125 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Right, I understand, And I think that like what I'm 126 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: so happy about, I know everyone will be so happy 127 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: to hear, is that you are taking accountability of it, 128 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: taking taking initiative. And I think, because once that happened, 129 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself, I was genuinely a 130 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: million times happier. And I will also say I went 131 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: up on my dose just to be totally transparent, and 132 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: this has been you know, it's been an incredibly difficult 133 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: three weeks for me as well. Like that's totally separate 134 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: outside of like anything that you were going through like 135 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: I had a very close friend. We have a very 136 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: close friend who suffered a huge, a huge personal loss, 137 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: and it has been very difficult, and so I've sort 138 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: of been grieving that in my own way as well. Also, 139 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I've been really like under the gun with a project 140 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 1: that I'm doing, and like especially as the strikes happened, 141 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about because it also like sort of 142 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: dictates how we can discuss things on this podcast and 143 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: how we might be doing things going forward. It has 144 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: been like a really stressful fucking time. And I will say, 145 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: just having this little bit of help. And it's funny. 146 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Last time we were in this room with the camera's 147 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: row and we talked about this with Kelly. 148 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: This is a medication room. This is the red room. 149 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 2: This is the red This room is for crazy people. 150 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: This room is for the pills. This room is for 151 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: the pills. Yes, the pills, not the red pills. Not 152 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: the red, not the red, the blue pills. 153 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about red pilling because I think Ken 154 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: in the Barbie movie gets red pilled. Yes way, but anyway, Yeah, 155 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: Like I've just been so grateful for it. Yeah, And 156 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where it's like 157 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: I kind of want to go back in time a 158 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: few things, like you were always on me about therapy 159 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: and that was major sure, and then this for however 160 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: long I need the lecture pro It's been really great 161 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: for you to see about the girl. 162 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: Me too, And it took a lot of clarity from 163 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: you well to me, Like I think you were very 164 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: clear with me about how I should manage. 165 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: This because I care about you so much. It's that 166 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: thing of like it's I think a journey that we've 167 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: been on about like codependency, right, because you are genuinely 168 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: my best friend, like we genuinely do this together. But 169 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: also outside of this, this like an entire relationship and 170 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: like there's history and there's like a lot of care 171 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: that goes into that. And I think sometimes it's like 172 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: how do you care for someone in a real way? 173 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Do you tell them like do you use words like worried, concerned? 174 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: Like do you ring alarm bells? Or do you say 175 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm here, But you're in it also in a place 176 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: of inaction because you want to like make sure you're 177 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: taking care of the person. For me, it's just like 178 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: when you had said you expressed to me that you 179 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: wanted to take a break. Like for me, that's just 180 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: like this is great, but this is not everything, you 181 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And it's like I also know 182 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: that you're involved with other things where it's not as 183 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: easy to be like, hey, I'm taking a break. 184 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that is the cruelest irony is that, like, 185 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: out of all the things that I'm doing, and it's 186 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: not that it's too many things, but it was just 187 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: a lot of demanding things, and out of all those things, 188 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: it was like the thing that could be taken off 189 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: the plate for a little bit was this, which is 190 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: so terrible because it's the thing that I enjoy the most. 191 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: And that is sort of the unfair ironic thing. 192 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: About it all, where oh it was only three weeks. 193 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: It was only three weeks, and girl, you you have something? 194 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: Do you think I have something? Thank you? 195 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: What is it that I say? Anyways, I love your ass. 196 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: I love your ass. 197 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: It's forever coded. My love for you is forever rule 198 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: of culture number four four before my love for you. 199 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: It's forever coded. Speaking of the rules, will you get 200 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: into it? Come on? 201 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: Joco Studio made this for us at joke at Joco 202 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: dot Io. 203 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: J oco dot io. I mean a bound book. So 204 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: I just forgot that podcasts are not a visual medium. 205 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we have we have these cameras, 206 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: and we showed the book to the cameras, and you 207 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: listening in your car don't know what the hell we're doing. 208 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: So someone sent in They made bound and everything a 209 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: Rules of Culture first edition, first edition book for Bowen 210 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: and I. And this is it. I mean, you flipped 211 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: through it, and it's got pictures, it's got all the rules. 212 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: This is exhaustive work, and this is how you know 213 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: the readers are the best in the biz. And then 214 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: you open up the rule book and some things really 215 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: jump out, such as ruled culture number six, super base 216 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: is our national anthem. I mean, I'm sorry, but we 217 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: were so right on all of these. Number twelve. If 218 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: bow and Yang got it wrong, other people are gonna 219 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: get it wrong. 220 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: Such a funny spelling the word satellite, such as spelling 221 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: the word satellite. Here we go, I have something, Rule 222 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: of Culture number twenty nine. It all comes back to 223 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: Hillary Duff. 224 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: Let's go back that to the beginning. Good and I 225 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: bet if you went back in time and when we 226 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: did that rule, I bet we sang those very words 227 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: because people change but they don't. 228 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: But they don't. It's for the culture number eight. People change, 229 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: but they don't. 230 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: And we just really want to say who not number 231 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: thirty five. Unfortunately, Zuckerberg has a fat ass. I don't 232 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: think we said that. We didn't say. I think we 233 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: codified it into the rules, but we cannot have originally. 234 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: I think this is after the surfboard picture, because he 235 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: does want to have a donk on the board. Well, 236 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: he pokes out the tailbone on the board. Do you 237 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: think he knew there were paps around and he said, 238 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: let me show off my fat ass. 239 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zuck, Oh, every pap is hired these days, even 240 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: back then, even for Zuck. 241 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I just want to quickly read. This book is dedicated 242 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: to the readers, the publicist, the finalists, and most importantly 243 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: the Katies. Wow. Okay, so this book is Katie Coodd. 244 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: May you forever be informed on the pulse and finding 245 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: things that make you say quote culture is for me. 246 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: This is amazing, so nice, and I do just want 247 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: to I think we both want to say that if 248 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: there ever is a piece of merchandise that we come 249 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: out with that maybe even has this title. It's been 250 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: an idea for a long time, and we did not 251 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: steal it from at Joco Dot. 252 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: We did not steal it from at Joko di Io. 253 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: You have to know it won't be in this exact 254 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: format either. Oh, we're saying too much. 255 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: With culture number nineteen, Blackpink. Those girls they really do 256 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: have choreo down. 257 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: It's true. That is one hundred percent. That's one hundred 258 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: percent true. So I read that superbasse Yes, Yes, that 259 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: goes to Barbes, which goes to Barbie? 260 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: Should we talk about Barbie? I mean, it is the 261 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: culture and can we just say I think that's what 262 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: the girls want to hear, that's what the girls. 263 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: Want to hear, and off the it is pretty remarkable. 264 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: And I think what you inform this whole discussion is 265 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 2: we have monoculture for once. 266 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: Wow, do we Dowey? I mean we were talking out there, 267 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: me and the girls that are behind the cameras. We 268 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,239 Speaker 1: were all excitedly talking yes about Barbenheimer. Yeah, so full disclosure, 269 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: we are going tonight to say Oppenheimer. So we haven't 270 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: seen it, but Barbie we saw. And I think that 271 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: my initial reaction to it, because everyone it was one 272 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: of those things where it's like people are dressed, people 273 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: are going Yeah, I was so excited. My excitement was 274 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: out of ten. And then I walked out of it 275 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: and I was just like my reaction and even me, 276 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: who's like a maximalist and loves this shit, my reaction 277 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: was that was a lot. And I didn't really know 278 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: how I felt. I knew I had laughed and sort 279 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: of enjoyed every minute, but as a movie, I didn't 280 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: know how I felt. A few days have gone by. 281 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: I think it's one of my favorite movies. 282 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, Okay, so 283 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: what's like congealed in those few days? 284 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: Can you know? I have to give credit to Joel Kim. Yeah, 285 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: because I went to a party with a bunch of 286 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: queers with differing opinions. Yes, sort of, because it's really 287 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: like the fever pitch feels very positive, but people do 288 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: have opinions about this movie, and isn't that beautiful? It's beauty, 289 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: it's beauty. But I was sort of like airing on 290 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: the side of like, I don't know, I don't know 291 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: if it worked. And then Joel Kim was like. 292 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: It's play logic, it's not about world building necessarily because 293 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: there is no world building when a kid picks up 294 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: a barbie. Yeah, yes, and you would express that to me, 295 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: and that clicked for me as well. Yes, I agree 296 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: with that, and I celebrate that, and I am of 297 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: the mind that it's genius to prioritize that. Yeah, and 298 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: sort of like forsake like traditional film logic or at 299 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: least like you know, like world building. 300 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: Logic like that. 301 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: But then I do kind of come away from that 302 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: movie thinking I really enjoyed that. It did feel like 303 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: a bag of loose, unspooled thread. And should we just say, 304 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: I do think we should spoil the movie. So if 305 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: you haven't watched it, oh yeah, no, fast forward maybe 306 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: like ten to fifteen minutes. It's a Wednesday after a 307 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: monocol It's a Wednesday after monoculture. 308 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: We'll just say that. 309 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. By the end of the movie, I go, wait, 310 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: why did she become? Did you want to become human? 311 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: See? That's my thing? Yeah, is that was just like 312 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: there were so many ideas, Yes, there were so many 313 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: things happening to the point where I was just like, 314 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: at the end, it's weirdly like a thinker, you know 315 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's a surrealist fantasy comedy, which, of course, 316 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: but it's not just this thing where you sit back 317 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: and like you could just really like sit there and 318 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: watch it without thinking, no you like by the end, 319 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this was like existentialist and you know, 320 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: really deep, surprisingly deep, especially for something that like is 321 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: also at the same time so sort of gloriously dumb, 322 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: and which something I loved about it. But what I 323 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: think was it was like very clearly too extremely smart 324 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: and funny people sitting down and having the time of 325 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: their lif and just throwing all the ideas out there 326 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: in a way a kid might give me a million 327 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: of these before you give me one more of literally 328 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: insert anything here, right. 329 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: Did we talk about this the other day where I 330 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: would have loved some Barbie looking person in the real 331 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: world to go up to her be like, oh my god, yeah, 332 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: like you're my like you're my heroes, you are my icon. 333 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: Like that complicates it even more. I think there's even 334 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: a nice little thing there that like compliments the teens 335 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: being like you're fascist, you suck, Like you're the reason why, 336 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: like femininity is like crazy or whatever. I would have 337 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: loved for like on the other side of that coin 338 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: for somebody to be like, oh, you made me who 339 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: I am. And then and then like Barbie sees her 340 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: be like a terrible person. Yeah maybe absolute privileged, Yes, yes, yes, 341 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: there was this weird thing that happened where it's like 342 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: they show the Barbie world and it actually is very 343 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: diverse and inclusive and it's a party and it's a 344 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: matriarchy and. 345 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And then when Barbie goes 346 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: to the real world, they're like, fuck you, fuck off. 347 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: And there is this thing that like Barbie goes through 348 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: where she's just like it almost is like a reckoning 349 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: with privilege right there. She's like, what do you mean, 350 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm well intentioned, I come from this, and then she's 351 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: confronted in the real world and it's like, no, what 352 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: you represent is this and actually it's this label, this, this, this, 353 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: And so you actually see the Barbie character go through 354 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: something in a really short period of time in a 355 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: funny way, which I think a lot of white women 356 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: go through, which is just like or white people go through, 357 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: which is just like you have to understand like in 358 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: an atmosphere and in like a culture where we're constantly 359 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: branded and sold in everything, and it's catered to a 360 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: certain person, like just watching her deal with all of 361 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: that despite what she is stands for actually in reality, 362 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was an interesting way to go about 363 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: the Barbie thing because it's like, there have been I 364 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: guess quote unko diverse barbiees and dolls for quite a while, 365 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: but I still think you think Barbie. And one of 366 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: the top items of discussion is, for example, Sudi like 367 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: she was not allowed to have that or engage with 368 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: that at all as a child because her mother was like, 369 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: this is fascism, literally, I mean, and like, so it's 370 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: a really interesting I think way to personalize that for 371 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: the character, for her to be personally attacked for what 372 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: she represents and called a fascist, but the intent of 373 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: her and the brand in general, especially because this is 374 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: produced by Mattel, is sort of like no, no, no, that's 375 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: not what we meant. But yet they are responsible for it, 376 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: right totally. 377 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: And then I think Greta had Margo producer, had the 378 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: impossible task of like making it not a commercial, not 379 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: like a hand geography, not like Mattel we love you, yeah, 380 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: And like I can't believe they got the Ruth Handler 381 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: jokes in about how like I got danged for tax 382 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: of Asian stuff, but that's a different movie. Yeah, I'm like, oh, 383 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: the andler A State is gonna let that slide. 384 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: They wait for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you have 385 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: to imagine this, like because I feel like Greta and 386 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: Noah probably got a lot of leeway because they are 387 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: so acclaimed, because they are so successful and there is 388 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: like a trust level in them. But you have to 389 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: imagine this movie was fucking noted. Oh you know what 390 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, like to within an inch and like, so 391 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: the fact that we arrived where we arrived and that 392 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: it did as well as it did, and that it 393 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: gets an a Cinema score and a ninety percent on 394 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes, this is like it's a huge deal. You know, 395 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: not to make an obvious joke, but it is like 396 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: a pink unicorn and that like, of course it's one 397 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: of the world's most famous toys. But it's not a 398 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: sequel or a franchise or et cetera. Right, Oh, it's 399 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: a franchise. But you know, the. 400 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: Ip is something that they they did the right thing 401 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 2: by like completely starting from scratch in a way, because 402 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: they could have they could have been like, oh, it's 403 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: not Barbie, it's Skipper, it's Midge, it's Christy. It's like 404 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: all the girls are there, but they're not all named Barbie, right, 405 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: and all the men are not named Ken. They could 406 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 2: have done that and would have been it really would 407 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: have been a different movie. Yeah, they get away with 408 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: all of these gender assessments based on the joke that 409 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: you just sub in male female for Ken Barbie right exactly. 410 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: And I think it was really fun. I think you 411 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: know what's so funny is that all like the higher 412 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: ups at Mattel are men. Yeah is that really true? 413 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: That's really And I think they even like say that 414 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: in the movie. It's like no, like this is it, 415 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: this is it, and like they slipped that in and 416 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: like I think the people at matel are like yeah, sure. 417 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: And then it makes you go, is it a good 418 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: thing or a bad thing that like other companies that 419 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: end up making movies will like allow themselves to be 420 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: like lightly roasted in this way. 421 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I guess then it comes down to 422 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: like cool, Yeah, take the light roasting. Look cool because 423 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: you allowed yourself to be roasted, But also like are 424 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: you going to do anything about it? Like I guess 425 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: that would be the thing to check in on in 426 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: six months, where it's just like, yeah, cool, you allowed 427 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: yourself to be the butt of this joke, your own joke, yes, 428 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: but also like did it remain the same yeah, And 429 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: there's it's really funny because like I think people that 430 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: don't even understand that they're doing this. There is a 431 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: lot of sexism even in the conversation about the movie 432 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: in terms of through a critical lens, like something I've 433 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: seen more than once and this is just it really 434 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: makes me laugh. Is the boiling down of a few 435 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: of these reviews about Margo and Ryan's performances are Margo 436 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: really proves she has what it takes to be a 437 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: movie star. And I'm like, and they're like, and Ryan 438 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: should be nominated for an oscar and he did it again, 439 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: and it's one of the most underutilized clowns in the business. 440 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: It's like, this man has been doing this for a while, 441 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: Like and also like to shift all the focus to 442 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: him and say, Margot Robbie finally has proven what it 443 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: takes to be a movie star. I'm like, she's been 444 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: a movie star now for over ten years. Her first 445 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: film was at least in terms of like what everyone 446 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: saw was opposite Leonardo DiCaprio in a performance that made 447 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: her a movie star immediately. And it's just like you 448 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: see her being praised, sure, but not a lot of 449 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: conversation about her being as involved as she was for 450 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: as long producing. Not enough conversation. I think about just 451 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: how difficult it is to just hold the center of 452 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: this movie. 453 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: Like it is crazy and like carry this entire press 454 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: tour that has no TV options, right, and like be 455 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 2: the mediator between Mattel and Greta. Is that that is 456 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: her job as producer on this Yeah, and literally like 457 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: look at people's schedules and be like can we make 458 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: it work with this person? 459 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: Now? You know, Like literally like it comes down to that. Yeah. 460 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: And I mean like this is the nuts in the bolts, 461 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking like she's way, way, way smarter and 462 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: more important than people are actually realizing. Like I think, 463 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: like in terms of like why this movie is so 464 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: big and why it's so successful, it's like she's a 465 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: top three reason. Oh yeah, you know what I mean. 466 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: And like I always say, you know, I know that 467 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: there's like, well, some of the craziest people in America 468 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: are online saying that America Frera deserves an Oscar nomination 469 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: for her performance. I'm like, America was great, But guys, 470 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. She was great. She was great, Yeah, 471 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: but it's like Oscar nomination. And that's why when people 472 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: just throw that out there, I'm like, you guys are 473 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: so we don't know. They don't know because she. 474 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: Has that one monologue which, by the way she delivers, 475 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: she killed, she kills, she landed the plane. 476 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: Yes, I think for people that I've been having this 477 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: conversation for a long time, that monologue is gonna feel 478 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: very twenty eighteen. And I'm talking about her monologue which 479 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: she talks about how difficult it is to be a woman. 480 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: And what I think we have to remember is it 481 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: sort of is when you're dealing with monoculture like this, 482 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: it's like that James Cameron thing right when we were 483 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: talking about how it's like with Kiki. Yes, yeah, it 484 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: has to be for everyone, and maybe not everyone has 485 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: had this conversation. And so when you're putting out a 486 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: movie that's a big and important and potentially influential as 487 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: the Barbing movie, as we've proven to see just how 488 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: huge it is, like it's okay for that monologue to 489 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: feel like something you've heard before totally and performed really well, 490 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: is it Oscar worthy? I don't know one thing. The 491 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: reason I got there though, was because, as you know, 492 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: my rubric of the Oscars is could anyone else have 493 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: done it? Could anyone else have done Barbie like that? 494 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: And shepherded that to the huge amount of success and 495 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: trusted with the director and had such a singular, entwined 496 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: vision like they did. I don't know. I guess what 497 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying is Margot Robbie. 498 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: F YC, f y C, this makes me excited for 499 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 2: I pitched you a movie for when we're like in 500 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: our forties and fifties, for some huge when. 501 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: They're finally ready for us. 502 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: When I shared it with some people last night and 503 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: they were like, that's really good, I mean it is, 504 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: I was like, that's me. 505 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: I like, man, are going to do that one thing 506 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: about us? We have a big plan. It's I will say, 507 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm inspired by the color in this room. It's red. 508 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: It's for coke, it's for Coca Cola. We have an idea. 509 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: We have an idea for a Coca Cola movie. What 510 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: is bigger than Barbie CoA. Literally literally everyone loves it. 511 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: Everyone loves it, everyone knows it. It's worldwide, yeah, like 512 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: candy bursts, like candy burris. And it's to two worldwide things, 513 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: candy bursts and cocaine. That's real coachure number six. 514 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: It's two worldwide things, candy birst and coke cocla, not 515 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: the other one. 516 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: Listen, listen. Cocaine is pretty international too. That's true. That's true. 517 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: But I think I think it's just specific little routes. 518 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: We've sworn off the stuff. We've sworn off the stuff. 519 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: You have a raised eyebrow at drugs now, and so 520 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: do I for. 521 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: A little bit, who knows how long, but I am 522 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: kind of like, wait a minnute, this is too much. 523 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, I've realized, and maybe this is just mid thirties, 524 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: but I've realized, like being so fucked up is actually 525 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: pretty much always better in theory than practice, always always 526 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: unl well us. It's like a little bit of mushrooms 527 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: at Taylor swift eras Denver was that Denver it was 528 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: both oh great, you know what I mean, just a 529 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: little nibble I had just we had a little nibble 530 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: in Jersey and it was perfect. We were in the 531 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: perfect vibe for Jersey, I would say. In Denver I 532 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: was a little bit more fucked up. Yeah, I saw 533 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: the video. You were having fun, girl, I was having 534 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: a time. By the way, the show was fucking great. 535 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: And also everyone in Denver, I see how nice you are. 536 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: Denver's a town of sweeties. You have to know. A 537 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: few people came up and said hello, yeah, one Katie, 538 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: one Catherine, Wow, amazing, and Catherine said almost, Katie almost, 539 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: and then I was like, Katie, she goes yeah, but 540 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: that was lovely. But yeah, No, just drugs in general. 541 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: Maybe we're just getting old. Yeah, and that's okay, that's okay, 542 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: that's okay, different kinds of drugs now medicinal medicinal dolls. Okay. 543 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: Speaking of the dolls, there are new dolls. There are 544 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: new dolls. There are new dolls to sort of play with. 545 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, the new dolls of the Real Housewives of 546 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: New York. Again. We're seeing Oppenheimer tonight. 547 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll talk about Appenheimer. Maybe we'll talk about 548 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: it next week. But this is so interesting, like the 549 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: strike of it all, Like I remember I posted a 550 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: picture of me in the Barbie box, and I was like, 551 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: can I post this? 552 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: Is that allowed? 553 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: You're going to the movies for a movie that was 554 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: made pre strike, that's already been promoted, that's already released. 555 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: Like it's fine. There's a degree of anxiety though in 556 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: what I'm calling friends Queen Era, Yes, yes, we're on strike, 557 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: but really this is friend clean Era. So she's come 558 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: out and said, no one from SAD can promote any 559 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: of their projects. You can't promote anything like And then 560 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: actually my agent called, which was when I knew it 561 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: was serious, and she was like, you can't even be 562 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: like congrats to my friend on doing this. So, for example, 563 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: like we were going to have a couple people on 564 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: the podcast to promote certain things, and now I think 565 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: we have to either hold on that or just like 566 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: change the way we talk about it for now because 567 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: those are the new rules. 568 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: I think we can have people on and just be like, 569 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: let's the same. Yeah, I mean that's ultimately it's kind 570 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: of freeing. It is kind of freeing, but you do 571 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: kind of want to ask, like, what was it like 572 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: on the set of Theater Camp? 573 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: You know what? Though? You know what though, and we 574 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: have to bleep that out. We did have to bleep 575 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: that out like it's catch wait a minute, like it's 576 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: we can not talk about what you did without the 577 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: bleep blurb is scabbing. I don't know about that. I'm 578 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: not promoting people, go see this movie. Here's what here's 579 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: what we can say. I saw theater Camp this weekend 580 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: and I loved it. That's what we can say, Like 581 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 1: we just did with Barbie, that's not a promotion. That 582 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: is a review. A review, is it a review promotional whatever? 583 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: It's confusing. 584 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: It's very confusing. I saw you in the comments on 585 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: the Variety reel about like what actors people, because it. 586 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: Is the trades are trying to confuse people. 587 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 2: The trades are trying to confuse people. And I thought 588 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: you were of the mind that, like, let's be very 589 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: specific about what YES can and cannot do. I thought 590 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: we could on our podcast, let's say be like we 591 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: were going to have this person and this person from 592 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: this movie and just leave it at that. 593 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: Well what I said with the Zane episode last week, 594 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: because we talked for a half an hour about projects 595 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: that we've done together and that he's in Yes, and 596 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: I cut it out because I was told espressly, you 597 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: can't do that. See and everyone if you're listening to 598 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: this right now and you're like, huh, that's how fucked 599 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: up the studios are. Okay, it has to be this, yeah, 600 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: in order for it to change as a labor issue 601 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: because of them, and understand, Like I totally get being 602 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: like confused by all this or like huh, like, oh, 603 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: actors and writers are striking, Like it is a serious thing, 604 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: and it's also bigger, yes than this. I mean if 605 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: you really look at it, like these studio people, they 606 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: make so much fucking money and it's so insulting when 607 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: you consider what these guilds, what these unions are asking 608 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: for that like, you know, it's it's hard for me 609 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: to be like, you know, tell anyone what to do, 610 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: but like stand with these guilds, them with our union 611 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: because we really are. Like there's a lot of misinformation 612 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: out there. And that's what pissed me off about that 613 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: Variety thing, Yes, because it was some girl from Variety 614 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: and the trades are in with the studios, Yes they are. 615 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: And so she was being like, here's a list of 616 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: things actors cannot do while the strike is happening, Singing, podcasting, 617 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: like down the line like breathing, basically saying like, because 618 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: they're on strike, they are not participating in any element 619 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: of the industry, which is not true. We are not 620 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: participating anything promotionally as they relate to struck companies, but 621 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: we are allowed to still do our podcast singers are 622 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: allowed to sing if they're in SAG like. It's just ridiculous, 623 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: and they're trying to make it. They're trying to make 624 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: us look like crazy and unreasonable. 625 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of nuanced things about this 626 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: that even we don't quite understand, such as and I 627 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: think this is going to like play out in the 628 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: next couple weeks as we get closer to some festivals. 629 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: But like, there are indie studios like A twenty four 630 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: that are figuring out ways to waive promotional and they've 631 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: already done that with shoots, but they're trying to figure 632 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: out a way to like allow certain projects to be 633 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: promoted in a way that complies with SAG strike roles 634 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: and guidelines. And that is a good thing because it 635 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 2: does show people and especially people within the unions that like, 636 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: let's like promote how like the indie arm of this 637 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: industry can thrive and flourish and be healthy, and it's 638 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: not like a full austerity thing of like nothing can stay, 639 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: nothing can work. 640 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And also it shows that there are people out 641 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: there with the money who make these calls like that, 642 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: that are willing to collaborate and they are willing to 643 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: bend and they are willing to be fair. But unfortunately 644 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: that isn't anyone in our sort of new culture where 645 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: it feels like five people run the industry, which has 646 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: been a problem and continues to be a problem. Unfortunately, 647 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: you'd be shocked to hear those are the people that 648 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: are being very rigid. And people keep asking like how 649 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: long do you think the strike is going to go? 650 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: How long do you think the strike is going to go? 651 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: And I've just started being like, I don't fucking know. 652 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: January, it's giving lockdown, it's giving early early COVID, Like 653 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: we really, we literally don't know. 654 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 655 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: The thing about January, though, is the thing that like 656 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: all the studios do have in common is that I 657 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: think they do care about awards, and if the strike 658 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: goes into like the period where they release all their 659 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: awards contenders, that kind of fucks up the schedule there 660 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: for them. And then they kind of lose out on it, 661 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: like a year of prestige. 662 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, i'd heard, like I heard do 663 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: the Grape Fine, that the studios would crunch the numbers 664 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: and decided there was like a date in August that 665 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: they could go without all this. Huh. But now the 666 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: more you hear about like just how far apart everything is, 667 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: it's scary. Yeah. I had heard November, and then I 668 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: was thinking, like, but if it's gonna go till November 669 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: and the industry sort of shuts down in December because 670 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: of the holidays, why wouldn't you just go to extend 671 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: it to do You know what I'm saying, It's just 672 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: like it just feels like I don't even know what 673 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: to say about it. But what I do know is 674 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: when I see something that's just incorrect, which is like 675 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: this insane insinuation that like because the actors are on strike, 676 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: they're completely stopping any avenue of livelihood Like that is 677 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: not true. Like podcasting will continue, touring will continue, music 678 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 1: will continue. And if if this is causing anyone like discomfort, 679 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: it's because we're at a place where like just wealth inequality. Yeah, 680 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: it's wrong, and someone has to take a stamp. Mm hmm. 681 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: But that's that. But that's that anyway to be get 682 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: there from Ronie. Let's go back to Ronie, shall we? 683 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: Thoughts, Well, I still need more time because you know 684 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: what it was first episode, which that episode in particular 685 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: has the impossible task of like getting everybody on board 686 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: with these people when we have all these attachments with 687 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: the previous group. And then the second episode, I love 688 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: that we're already doing a trip. I was very and 689 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: this is having me change my mind about Brin. I 690 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 2: was missing Bran and I go then she's a very 691 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: important part of this on some absolutely, and so it 692 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: was like, I need more time. I need Brent to 693 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: go there and teach these girls yoga. Yes, she'll be there, 694 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: she'll be there. Yes, I saw in the next episode preview. 695 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: I need her to go there. Really kind of jolt 696 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: this so far, I'm intrigued. 697 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm oblessed. Okay, talk about this. First of all, what 698 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: I love is that they're sharing, they're passing the ball, 699 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: you think, yes, I really do. Here's how I would 700 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: boil it down. Jenna lyons like she's so fascinating and 701 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: there's never been a housewife like her. I do think 702 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: she thinks she's a little better than the show. I'm 703 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: curious about her motives to be on the show. I 704 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: think she very much wants to be on reality television. 705 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: She had her show on HBO Max was agramas called 706 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: Stylish with genera lions. I watched that, and then she 707 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: comes to Housewives and she's like, I'm uncomfortable in group settings. 708 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm reserved and shy. 709 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell you about my significant eye, i 710 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 2: will not tell you about my relationship. 711 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, what exactly was the motive to 712 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: get on this show? And I'm seeing maybe Jenna Lyons 713 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: like and this is I think what's fascinating about her 714 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: is I think she's going to peel layers off of 715 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: herself because she's going to be forced to because these 716 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: women are not going to allow her right to be 717 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: the one that gets away with things if they're all 718 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: exposing themselves exactly. And you can even tell in the 719 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: second episode, Si yes Cy being like she knows my husband, 720 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: why can't we know her girlfriend? But aren't we friends? 721 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: By at that point, I'm gonna be like, well, that's 722 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: a spouse is different than a girlfriend. 723 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: But that's I don't know if you're a housewife. 724 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: Yes, we as an audience and they as friends have 725 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: a right to know who the spouse is. For dating someone, 726 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: like if you're dating someone, if my girl is dating 727 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: someone new, I don't have to know everything about the person, not. 728 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: Everything about the person. But I think when you go 729 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: on reality television and you're saying, like the idea here 730 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: and what's compelling is I'm going to open you up 731 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: to my life, you think you'd open up your life. 732 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting because you do see her 733 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: in confessional mom, Yeah, and she's willing to open up. 734 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: I think she wants to go there. And I think 735 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: she was saying in so many words, like my girlfriend 736 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be a part of this, and I 737 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: have to respect that. And I have to respect that. 738 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: And this is a decision I've made for myself. I 739 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: didn't make it for her, which is, you know, there 740 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: is this interesting thing, and I've dealt with it, like 741 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure that like people have dealt with it to 742 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: a certain extent. But it's like when you like someone 743 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: and you want them to be in your life, but 744 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: they're uncomfortable with that part of it. 745 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: Yes, you know I'm saying totally, and so then what 746 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: do you do if you're a general Lions. What do 747 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: you do if Matt Rogers is General Lions. If I'm 748 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: General Lions, if you're at the topping roads in the 749 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: Hampton's and they're asking you know. 750 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: What, I guess I do exactly what she's doing, but 751 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: you open up another areas. I open up in other areas. 752 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: And also, I think, because obviously she wants to put 753 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: her relationship first, that's meaningful to her, but she can't 754 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: be surprised when these women who don't have those boundaries 755 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: are going to come for her in that way, because 756 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: that's again, that's another decision that you make. When you 757 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: say this area of my life is off limits, and 758 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: that sentence becomes a storyline, then it's a storyline. 759 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: It's a storyline, and then people want to uncover that exactly. 760 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: Yes, the vultures come out to hunt. The vultures will 761 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: pick your bones. In the words of Oprah, pick your 762 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: vultures are waiting to pick your bones. 763 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 2: That to Megan Markle it was to someone maybe are 764 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: waiting to pick your bones. 765 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: Wow. If that wasn't that interview, then that quote gets 766 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: lost because of course it was not an interview. 767 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 2: It was not an interview, but ClickHole did do like 768 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 2: a super cut of all the time. Oprah has said, 769 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 2: the vultures are waiting to pick your super impose that audio. 770 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 2: The vultures in this case being the other girls, the 771 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 2: other girls and the New York Post, The New York Post. 772 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: What are your feelings about the other women? I love 773 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: how me and Jessel is to her husband now we 774 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: find out they don't fuck. 775 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: I actually but I actually don't love Jessel. You don't, 776 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? I'm into Jessel. 777 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 2: She's a fashion girl, but she's still wearing Alexander Wang 778 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: in the year twenty twenty two as when they shot that. 779 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, don't you know this? Are you 780 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,959 Speaker 2: a PR girl? 781 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: Like oh wow to be in PR in fashion pr 782 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: and not know that like kind of persona and nongrato. 783 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: You know what, though, this is what I'll say without 784 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: saying too much. Fashion people are very sensitive and they're 785 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: very like defensive about the cancel culture. Of course, of course, 786 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: like I've talked to a few people because there's like, 787 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: you know, I'll just don't chickamon of it all. Huh, 788 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: Like they have a very racist, problematic history, a recent 789 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: history even that they never really addressed. But a lot 790 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: of people make an issue with it. But you still 791 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: see it being worn a lot. And so in my 792 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: conversations with people that are in fashion, I do get 793 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: the sense that, like people are very defensive about it 794 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: and like, well, you can't do that, like cancel culture 795 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: is wrong, right right right. 796 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: It's like, let's say you're being a little bit more 797 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 2: impassioned than anyone else was about the original problem, which 798 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 2: is their fault anyway. 799 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: Especially her being like an Indian woman, and literally I 800 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: was obsessed with genaal lines being like you can't have 801 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: the wordmark of Blenciaga. Come on, what do you literally 802 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Literally, what are you doing? What 803 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: are you doing? And that's what I love, because one 804 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: thing Jenna Liance is achieving is she does seem like 805 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: the sekhest person in New York. That vintage Mercedes took 806 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: my breath away. Forget it. I had to rewind. I like, 807 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: does she just drive up into light blue vintage Mercedes 808 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: to the Hamptons. I was like, well, this is. 809 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with the pearls and the necktie and the confessionals. 810 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck everything. That's exactly right. When she called 811 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: her dickla Taja Landing Strip. 812 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: She's a little key. Oh yeah, she's talking about fucking. 813 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: She is talking about fucking, and I'll be honest, I 814 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: felt a little horned up when she said when it's 815 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: two women, both people get taken care of. Oh my god, wait, 816 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: do I have a genal lions Lauren? Lauren Matt's go 817 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: to Jenna. Matt's got a general rons, big culture, big 818 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: New York culture. I'm not putting Jenner Lions out there 819 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: on her own for Cold Open. Matt is putting on 820 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: the glasses. He's gonna go out there with her as 821 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: a second Jenna. Jennah's gonna sneak up on him. Jennah's 822 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: gonna sneak up on him, and He's gonna be, of 823 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: course aloof because she's a loof. Because she's a loof. 824 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: I told him react as Jenna. I don't know this 825 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: that this is what he says. I don't work for 826 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: him or with him. Yes, absolutely, you're in. You're in 827 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: the diamonds. I mean, I like so, I like Jenna 828 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: a lot. I like Yes, Uba has won me over. 829 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: Uba has won me over within an episode. I was like, first, 830 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know about this. Yeah, now 831 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, love it. I'm into Uba. Love how far 832 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: aways your house from provisions? It's so funny. I didn't 833 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: expect to turn on her right this quickly. I kind 834 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: of don't care for Cy. I like Cy. 835 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 2: Everything that comes out of her mouth is well, I'm 836 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 2: a content creator, I'm a digital influencer. I grew up poor, 837 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 2: and so I bring five ply toilet paper to someone 838 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: else's house. 839 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, can we talk about this toilet paper thing? Yeah, okay, 840 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I had ever thought about this, but 841 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: I think I do judge when I go to someone's 842 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: house and their toilet paper is like, butthole problematic. Do 843 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Yeah, the single ply like 844 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: when you rub it on your hole and it feels 845 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: like a little bit like sandpaper. 846 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's like, it's unacceptable to me. It's like 847 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 2: what they would have on an airplane right. 848 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: Restroom. For me, it's just like, yeah, I think that 849 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: It's something I had not thought about until this episode. 850 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: But if your toilet paper is really bad, that to me, 851 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: is just like physically inconsiderate of your guest. 852 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 2: Buttholes, I don't know, would you find it rude if 853 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 2: someone brought their own toilet paper to like your vacation house. 854 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: What that says to me? Because, by the way, readers, 855 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: this is what happened. So Ci on the Real Houses 856 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: in New York was concerned that Aaron on the Real 857 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: Houses of New York would not have acceptable toilet paper 858 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: at her Hampton's home, which I'm sure she's got top 859 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: of the line stuff. But Ci brings the toilet paper 860 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: into the house because she needs her specific toilet paper. 861 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: For me, this is a great a Housewives move. I 862 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: love it. I lost classic Housewives move. What I think 863 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: it was rude. The insinuation is that you're cheap. Yeah, 864 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: the host, the host. 865 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: I just what really got under my skin right at 866 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 2: the top of episode two was her packing nine suitcases 867 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: for a three h trip. 868 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, I really disliked this kind of person. 869 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: It was garment bags. 870 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: Though it was not great, it was full fucking a 871 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: lot of the bags were garment bags. 872 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: Okay, it was too much back, it was too much package. 873 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: But she Okay, So here's the thing. So now as 874 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: someone who's been doing a good amount of branded when 875 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: you're doing it, you know it's cringe, but also the 876 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: money is real. Yes, I don't begrudge her of doing it. 877 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: She's getting her content. 878 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: I think all she talks about is for content, and 879 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 2: that's where I'm like, there's got to be something else, Like, 880 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: what do you like to do? 881 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: Do you think it's over correcting? I think it's definitely compensatory. Yeah, 882 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,959 Speaker 1: I want to know what the husband did. Oh, because 883 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: he's retired, you think there's a gun chocks that you No, 884 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that at all. Okay, I just want 885 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: to know because they live in the most gorgeous brownstone. Yes, 886 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: they do live in a gorgeous Oh, oh my god. 887 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: Well all these women have amazing home. Yes, we haven't 888 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: seen prince House. Though we have not seen Prince House. 889 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: You're right, I get the feeling she's the most loudest. Yeah, 890 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: down home, down home, Yeah, yeah, I will say. Her 891 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: tagline has really grown on me. What is it? I'll 892 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: dit your dad. I love to laugh, but maked date 893 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: your dad. I love the fact that I love to laugh, 894 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: but make me mad. And now that your dad like, 895 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: don't relive in the same sentence, and that to me 896 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: makes it perfect. And the way she bites her lip 897 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: when they edited it into the thing, it made me really, Yeah, 898 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: it's good gravitates to gravitate to her. 899 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: Of course, I do think that Jessel has a tagline 900 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 2: that's that's a little too good for her, which is 901 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 2: I always bring the flavor. 902 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: It's not my fault. You don't have any taste really good. 903 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: Her lingerie that she got from Gemma that was disgusting. 904 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: It was bad. Lingerie is terrible. But if I didn't 905 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: bring lingerie to like a lingerie themed thing, it's like 906 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: a beggar. It's not a beggars can't be chooses. 907 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 2: It's like, well, I'm not gonna if you gave me 908 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 2: shitty lingerie, I'm not gonna be like, nah, this looks stupid. 909 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: I would say this after a whole day of converse. 910 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: So basically they have this whole day of conversation about 911 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: how she's like self conscious about her body because her 912 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: city section scar, she's not fucking her husband. It's been 913 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: a topic as it's a nerve. Yeah, and then you 914 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: get a piece of lingerie when all these women, some 915 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: of them are literally modeled. Yeah, you're someone who's obviously 916 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: very image conscious because you're in fashion. You're also on 917 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: the Real High Stars of New York. On the second episode, 918 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: you get lingerie given to you by Jenna Alliance. That's 919 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: size or two too big, right, I mean, Jenna knows 920 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: that's not cute. Sure, for me it was. This is 921 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: maybe a controversial opinion. It was within bounds of her 922 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: to complain, maybe not to the extent that she was. 923 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: I've been like, this is fucking disgusting, It's terrible, I 924 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: hate it, this is hideous. That's what I'm saying is 925 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: the extent, the extent of. 926 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 2: The complaining is what kind of graded on me, And 927 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: that I get the more that were talking about it, 928 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 2: the where I'm like, okay, this is good. 929 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: Like if I said to all of our friends, if 930 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: it was all of us, like if we all went 931 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: to Fire Island, which was like our Hampton's culture, and 932 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 1: I said, you guys, I got us all garments. Yeah, 933 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: and I gave you a garment that was like a 934 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: tent and ugly. But if everyone else brought a garment 935 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: and I did not bring a garment, and you get But. 936 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't think they brought the garments. I think the 937 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 2: garments were all gifts from Jenna. Yes, oh okay, I 938 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 2: missed that part. 939 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: That to me was what was kind of about it. 940 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, then, yeah, then we're team Jessel 941 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: and then this I understand her reaction. Yes, yes, I 942 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: get it totally because it's like, girl, it's too big, 943 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, and then you're going 944 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: to force me to come down in it, right, and 945 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 1: with the context of what we talked about with her husband, 946 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: what they all talked about as a group about the husband, 947 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: and yeah, okay, that's tough. That's tough. Now now we're 948 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: going to see now we're getting into the housewives. This 949 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: is the meat of the show. 950 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 2: This is the meat of the show. I just did 951 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 2: reminisce even today before before that word. 952 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: I love that word, reminisce. Reminisce. Isn't that a gorgeous word? Yeah, 953 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, literally bad, I N I s C. I 954 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: don't think that's right. Oh r E R M and 955 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: I SC that's what you said. I'm so sorry. I 956 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: didn't mean to know because I think that it's still 957 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: could be wrong. Reminnace. No, it's reminisce. That was good. 958 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, Becca produce. Rebecca, who, by the way, is 959 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: in the merch? Can you just get can we just 960 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: make sure that did you flop? Okay? Good? So she's 961 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 1: in the merch, which I think looks way cuter on 962 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: a human being in person than it does on the website. 963 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: This is what the girls are doing, is the merch 964 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: drops are accompanied by a little cute photo shoot in 965 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: the park. We should have been on that. It's okay, 966 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: that's for next time. We know, for next time, next time, 967 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: we know. But the merch is really cute. 968 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 2: The merch is really cute. Okay, yeah, it's really good. 969 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 2: Can we talk quickly about well I was reminiscing about. 970 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 2: I was literally going, gosh, we had we had a 971 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: rats will on this show. 972 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: We really did once. And Carol is although I didn't 973 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: realize that she was photographed with Gallaine Maxwell at one point, 974 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, and she. 975 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 2: Like had to beat off allegations that like she she 976 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 2: was in Epstein contact. No did she really her name 977 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 2: was in some book and she had to be like, 978 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 2: I've never met him. 979 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: You do not want your name in an Epstein book. 980 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: You really don't it's really closure number nine. You do 981 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: not want your name in an Epstein book. That is 982 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster. 983 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, But she I just think like her, even being 984 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 2: like dangentially as succeeded with Epstein. There's something so hilariously 985 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 2: old New York quote unquote old New York about it, 986 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: old money. Literally is like, God, these like stupid fucking 987 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 2: rich people. Yeah, you know what I mean, and that 988 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 2: there's something ronie about that. Yeah, there's a thing ronie 989 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: about that. And I'm missing that, and I know that 990 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 2: it's an intentional I'll reset to have none of that 991 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 2: in this iteration. But like a Morgan and we hand, 992 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 2: you know, a countess, but like Carol, like was in 993 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 2: Kandahar for six weeks reporting for ABC News, that is 994 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 2: a woman. These women are impressive though they're very impressive women. 995 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: I would say, like, and I'm hesitant to even bring 996 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: the politics into it because obviously I can't verify this, 997 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: but like the errand of it, all the errand of it. 998 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: Also apparently allegedly Erin maybe donated some money four hundred 999 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: dollars to Trump after the election. After the election. The 1000 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: funniest detail, which is truly insane, that story is developing. Yes, 1001 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: but it's a shame because I do like her on 1002 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 1: the show. 1003 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 2: I know, but unfortunately it's really hard for me as 1004 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 2: an audience member to have her come back from that. 1005 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,479 Speaker 2: I'm watching it, I go, I don't like. 1006 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't like you. If that's the case. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1007 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: but listen, that's why you don't do that. Right, speaking 1008 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: of don't do that, I have really been struggling with 1009 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: you not being here during these last few weeks seven 1010 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 1: just like that, let's talk about it. Well, is there 1011 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: anything to say? Does anything happen on the show? You 1012 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 1: know what? That's that's a lie. In this last episode, 1013 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,479 Speaker 1: a lot of things happened, but it took a really 1014 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: long time for things to happen. Right. The cha ideas 1015 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: of it all is has now become the monster is 1016 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: now self aware the focus group from a couple episodes ago. 1017 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not think that they would go in 1018 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 2: that direction, and I'm kind of into it. Maybe it's 1019 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 2: like that Barbie thing of like, see we're self aware. 1020 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but. 1021 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 2: I think Sara Ramirez at the end of the day, 1022 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 2: they are one of our great talents. One it is 1023 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 2: like some little injustice that they were given this role 1024 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 2: to begin with. Across the board, the new women in 1025 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 2: the show are like, what is this? I'm like the 1026 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 2: contracts of it all, like the fact that, like Karen 1027 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 2: Pittman is under contract with this show and she, as 1028 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 2: her character Naya has to just sit at dinner and like, 1029 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 2: oh my divorce, hold on and write a text message 1030 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 2: and then be like ugh, okay, dealt with that, and 1031 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: we as the audience don't know what happened. The women 1032 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 2: are not interested in asking her about it. Nope, and 1033 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 2: messed up. 1034 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, this is the problem with it 1035 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,720 Speaker 1: is It's like you could have had a show about Carrie, 1036 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: Miranda and Charlotte that was them, like engaging in the 1037 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: new world without being so patronizing as to include all 1038 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: these new women and do nothing with them exactly. And 1039 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: then the one you do the most with is the worst. 1040 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: Sema is terrible. 1041 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 2: I feel comfortable publicly saying that. I really every line 1042 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 2: read to me is giving rolling on rehearsal. She's out 1043 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 2: of her genre, rolling on rehearsal. Like we loved Serita 1044 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 2: and Homeland. She was great in Homeland, all of the projects. 1045 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 2: This is just not the genre and I'm just. 1046 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: Like, there was no care put into any of these 1047 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 1: characters or the casting. I swear to god, every scene 1048 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,800 Speaker 1: with LTW and her husband is still written by Sasame 1049 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,720 Speaker 1: Street writers. It becomes Sasame Street when when they're on camera. 1050 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't believe that these are conversations that this couple has. 1051 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: It's wild to me, and then like it comes at 1052 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: the expense of the main storylines, and then you just 1053 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: have a weird, bad show these scenes and onlines that 1054 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 1: are not buttons. There's like a scoring in the show 1055 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: which is very just concerning. Oh my god, the scoring, Mama, 1056 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 1: what it's like never there, It's like it's not moving. 1057 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica looks bored and miserable. I think she's having fun, 1058 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: you think so. I think the whole like her waiting 1059 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: and urging care for that guy. I think she was 1060 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: like in her like meet cute bag that she hasn't 1061 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: been able to do for a while. I think the 1062 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: only person acting on the show is Cynthia, and Cynthia's 1063 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 1: doing it, and Cynthia's naeling She's doing great, but when 1064 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: it's compelling, it's like that scene with her and Steve 1065 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: Yes that was like incredible, right, I don't think her 1066 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: reaction it's shaving like I need space, and Miranda's like okay, 1067 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: like even just all that landing on her, you can tell. 1068 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, like this is great. Cynthia is incredible. 1069 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 2: She's an incredible actor. It's just like I don't believe 1070 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 2: that Miranda is this dumb, right, and just to go 1071 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 2: back to the LTW stuff, like there is nothing to 1072 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,720 Speaker 2: track because out of nowhere, the husband is running for control, 1073 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 2: right because she said so, because she said to like 1074 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 2: an anniversary dinner as a way of like changing the parwadidamic 1075 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 2: with the mother in law, I'm like, right. 1076 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: What is Yeah, they've lost that thread. And now it's 1077 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: like they hint at there maybe gonna be conflict in 1078 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: their storyline because they both have an event, like a 1079 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: big event, because their whole thing is that they're busy. 1080 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 2: They're busy, and yet this woman is an award winning 1081 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 2: documentarian who uses iMovie. Check the damn interface on the mac. 1082 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 2: I mean she's editing her documentaries on a MacBook, not 1083 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 2: pro on immovie. 1084 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 1: Do people do that? Not award winning documentarian? You're certainly right, 1085 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: But I love that they were like oh, there's potentially 1086 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: going to be conflict here, and then her husband literally 1087 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: shows up for her, and the scene ends with her 1088 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 1: being like I'm so lucky to have support at home 1089 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, so what was the conflict of 1090 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 1: the storyline? Like what is it? I know, I know, 1091 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: it just becomes like it's wild. And here's the thing. 1092 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: It's weird to see people engage with the show because 1093 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: it's like there's this weird idea that's out there, like 1094 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: people have to be positive about it, or that people 1095 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 1: have to be like like, I don't know. I think 1096 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: that there's like definitely conversation about the quality, which is 1097 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: like low, it's just not well done. But there's this 1098 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: thing of like but we still love these women, and 1099 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: we love watching these women, and I'd rather have this 1100 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,280 Speaker 1: than anything else. It's like, you guys, this is what's 1101 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: sort of broken about all you know what I mean. 1102 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: It's like we have to retriet this so much because 1103 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: like we can't actually get compelling new stories for women 1104 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: like this, and you can't coast on nostalgia alone. And 1105 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: I think like that's the thing is it's like we're 1106 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: really starting to pay for it. I mean, you see 1107 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: even the box off receepts for these well trod big 1108 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 1: properties like big IP like Mission Impossible, which I saw, 1109 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: like that's really failing. The Indiana Jones movie is doing 1110 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: very poorly. It's like I think that there is an 1111 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: exhaustion with these like stories being told and told and 1112 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: told again to the point where they actually are no 1113 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: longer interesting because we've literally seen it. We've seen it literally. 1114 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 2: And I was telling you that I think maybe with 1115 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 2: the Barbie movie is gonna set as a trend is 1116 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 2: like movies about like brands and companies now instead of 1117 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 2: like storylines, and all of those adaptations are going to 1118 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,479 Speaker 2: be like meta, right, like. 1119 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: Nintendo and Barbie, like Mario and Barbie exactly. Literally the 1120 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: movies of the year are Mario and Barbie. And I 1121 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: know I understand that. I say, like Maria's Mario. There 1122 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 1: you go, No, no, no, there's no I'm not correcting you. 1123 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 2: Mario and Barbie, however you want to say it, let's 1124 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 2: call the whole thing. Those are the most those are 1125 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 2: the biggest characters in film and Barby Honey, and I 1126 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 2: liked both. And I want to talk about something that 1127 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 2: what I can't talk about it because it's strike. 1128 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: What is it? We're going to bleep it out like 1129 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: it's catch I'm doing a voice in the movie. Oh, 1130 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: I can't talk about it. Sorry, we can't, can't, I can't. 1131 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: We can't talk about You'll never know what project now 1132 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,399 Speaker 1: because he can't talk about it. I literally can't talk 1133 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: about it. Can't sell your streamers. Fran Dresher and Duncan 1134 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 1: Crabtree Ireland are my gods. Fran. I know she got 1135 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: in trouble for going in parties with Kim. 1136 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 2: But can we just say I blame Kim because Kim 1137 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 2: fucking savvy as hell, knows what she's doing when she's like, 1138 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 2: get the camera, I want a picture with Fran Dresher. 1139 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 2: She knows exactly how it benefits Kim and how it 1140 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 2: hurts Fran. 1141 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, like she knows. She's smart. She's one of the smartest. 1142 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 1: She's one of the smartest she is. Do you think 1143 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: that she'll be good? Can we talk about it? Neither 1144 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: of us are in it as far as I know. 1145 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: Unless that's one of your projects, are you in it? 1146 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 1: I didn't even get an audition for The American Horror Story. 1147 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian i'ma Roberts karadillavine. 1148 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 2: I think you're closer to American horror story than I am. 1149 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 2: You think so absolutely, definitely, definitely you've. 1150 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 1: Got the Ryan Murphy. You think I've got the Ryan Murphy. Look, 1151 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: you got the Ryan Murphy. Luk. I only mean that 1152 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 1: as a compliment. I only take my handsome king, my 1153 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 1: handsome girl. Listen, you know what I was watching what 1154 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: this is a really good documentary, the Rock Hudson documentary. 1155 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: I need it. 1156 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah all that he allowed that Heaven Allows Yeah yeah, 1157 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 2: which is like a Rock Cutson movie. But then like 1158 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 2: they it was really good. 1159 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: It was it was actually fascinating, and I traditional handsomeness 1160 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 1: got me there. But I was just like watching it 1161 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: and I was like, what a fucked time. I know, 1162 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: like and I guess, like you know, it's still all fucked. 1163 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 1: But it's just so weird that like the secret lives 1164 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: that had to be lived, and like I just always 1165 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,399 Speaker 1: like a chill runs up my spine when I see 1166 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: like gay men partying like in the pines, like in 1167 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: the eighties, like and around that time. It just like man, 1168 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: oh man, like it just it's so hard to wrap 1169 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: your head around I know that reality that nightmare. But anyway, 1170 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: I not to quickly descend into no, no devastation, but 1171 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: that was really a tough watch. You get the sense that, 1172 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: like it's sort of nightmare. It would have been impossible. 1173 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah for us, it would have absolutely been impossible 1174 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: for me, Yeah, for you, for so many people. I 1175 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 1: just think about, like, well, anyway, I literally just looked 1176 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: down on my paper and it said Rush by choice 1177 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,439 Speaker 1: of And I'm like, at least we have queer joy, 1178 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I just love my 1179 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: friends so much, and I love my community so much, 1180 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: and it's just sad. It's just very sad. And I 1181 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: that was top of mine because I had watched the 1182 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: Rock Cuts and documentary and if you want to marry 1183 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: an in that, you can go watch that. But I'm 1184 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: not going to drag the readers down with the ship here. 1185 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 2: I want to talk about another documentary and it's not 1186 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 2: that I've seen it, but I want to see it. 1187 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 2: But it's on studio platform. 1188 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 1: Oh damn it. So I feel like I should. You 1189 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: can't talk about it. Talk about it? Rush by Troy 1190 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: Sevon can be talked about. Let's talk about it. What 1191 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: a great song. I fucking loved it. I love it. 1192 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: I still love it. It's gonna make you on to pop 1193 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: the poppers. Absolutely. I also haven't. I haven't had sex, 1194 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: and like, I know, are we in our little vall 1195 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: cell era, I haven't had sex in two months? Does 1196 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: that sound right? Yeah? I yuess so yeah. 1197 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 2: The jessel up in here, you're getting it. I'm like 1198 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 2: a gay jess gay just two months is two years 1199 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 2: for gay? You wearing Alexander Wang never Me Never You 1200 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 2: Rush by Troy Sevon. I mean, can I confess? But 1201 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 2: I still haven't seen the music video. You haven't I know, 1202 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 2: Oh man, I've seen the clips and I'm like, oh oh, 1203 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 2: I mean there's some choreo. Yes, I I do love 1204 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 2: the choro. 1205 00:58:54,360 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: I might be whipping out some unknown talents acting a modeling, 1206 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: modeling that the single cover is like one of the 1207 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,959 Speaker 1: most gorgeous photos and he's got his images down. 1208 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 2: I just I love that this man has chosen a lane, 1209 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 2: which is I'm gonna write songs about the moments right 1210 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 2: before something goes in there. 1211 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, one, two three, Take all of Me, Bloom. 1212 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: Look at the lyrics of Bloom. I Bloom just for you. 1213 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: I bottom just for you. That means that there was 1214 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 1: one person. 1215 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 2: My favorite choice of on lyric, You want to know 1216 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 2: what should be the last night ever? Should be the 1217 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 2: last night we're apart? Got my name on this treasure, 1218 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 2: on this treasure? 1219 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 1: Love it. My favorite choice of on lyric is Himan Easy, Easy, Easy, 1220 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: Please don't leave me. 1221 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 2: Amy, you and Troy No, I'm saying you. Can we 1222 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 2: talk about why you've been hanging out? 1223 00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 1: Okay? 1224 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 2: Can I just that's my strike, that's your strike. I 1225 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 2: want to say, and the broadest terms, and please cut 1226 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 2: me off? Okay to all the reader. Katie's publicists finalized, 1227 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Matt is doing some very fun things. 1228 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: There will be a new era. There will be a 1229 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: new era. That's where we're gonna leave that. Okay, we 1230 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 1: can say that much honestly. Maybe by the time this 1231 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: is out, something will No. I don't know what I 1232 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 1: was gonna say, Okay, but one thing I want to 1233 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: say about Twitter becoming X. Yes, I saw that Twitter 1234 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 1: became X and I laughed, Yes, my ass because off 1235 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 1: because I just thought, this is the stupidest thing in 1236 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: the world, that Twitter becomes X. And I wanted to 1237 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: clear something up when I saw that Twitter was becoming X. 1238 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, this is really over. I thought this 1239 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 1: is really going down fine, So I decided to sort 1240 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: of tweet like the world was ending, you know what 1241 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And that's what this tweet was. So basically, 1242 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: here's what happened. And I want to clear something up 1243 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: because I got a lot of concern messages. So I 1244 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: used to have a Twitter, and the way that I 1245 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: would tweet it sort of like the way I speak 1246 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 1: on this podcast, very like the plane takes off, I 1247 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna land. Whenever I start a sentence, 1248 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 1: I just hope to land the plane, you know what 1249 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, I don't know my words, but I 1250 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: do and all my heart a sort of essential tenet 1251 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: of my personality. That's my Housewives tag line. I don't 1252 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 1: know my words, but I do know my heart. So 1253 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: I decided to just start tweeting, like run on sentences 1254 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: crazy and I said something it's giving James Joyce. Yeah, 1255 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 1: I was just like crazy tweeting, like trying to make jokes, 1256 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: and then people were like, what's going on? This is cringe? 1257 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: What's wrong? Is something going on? Is something wrong? I 1258 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: think because of the content I honestly even forget what 1259 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: I said, but I was like, okay, so you can't 1260 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 1: actually just have fun on this platform and like do 1261 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 1: whatever because you can no longer communicate on that app. 1262 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: Like I miss when Twitter used to be a place 1263 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: where you kind of just like pop off and say 1264 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: anything and like you could be funny and like whatever. 1265 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: But now it's just like everything means something. It's just 1266 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: like it just gets so I can't even do that 1267 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: on Instagram anymore. Like I like just wanted to like 1268 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 1: talk some shit about like people who are tweeting. Literally 1269 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 1: Twitter is the origin, and then people were like god, 1270 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: this is cringe, this is awful, like why and I'm 1271 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 1: just like okay, wait, and there is no fun place anymore. 1272 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean like look, if what you did didn't land, 1273 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 1: what I did didn't land, that's like ultimately on us 1274 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 1: or whatever. But it's just like it reminds me why 1275 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't have Twitter is because like, oh, it's too 1276 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 1: easy for things to land, and like it's just it's 1277 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: too much gray area, and like intentional gray area, you 1278 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like people are like. 1279 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 2: It's where it operates. It is like some bad faith interpretation. 1280 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 2: But I've told you the moment that it jumped to 1281 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 2: the shark for me, right was I was stoned watching 1282 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 2: Looney Tunes, I tweet from my personal account. God, the 1283 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 2: Looney Tunes are so iconic. All my replies are, this 1284 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 2: isn't news, Oh what are you talking about? Of course 1285 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 2: this didn't have to be said, and I'm like, we've 1286 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 2: really lost You. 1287 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Couldn't even say something positive about. 1288 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 2: That about Looney Tunes, about the most like a universally 1289 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 2: beloved thing. 1290 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: Ever, they had to say, this isn't news. You don't 1291 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 1: even like something that people love. I think what I 1292 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 1: said on Twitter was something. I deleted it because it 1293 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: was just getting too Yeah, I said something like god, 1294 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 1: what it was like. People were like, he's going off 1295 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: about his ex. I'm like, I'm literally not. You know 1296 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: what it was. I was talking to my friend about 1297 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 1: how he's in a relationship but he can still be 1298 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: on his host shit on Instagram, and so I tweeted, 1299 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: I love when I see people in relationships still on 1300 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: their whoreship. Yeah, clearly that means you spoke to your partner. 1301 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: They said, baby, be you. I said, congratulations, horror, marry them. 1302 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 1: You will never do better and people were like, it's 1303 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: crazy to see you slut shame. I was like, what 1304 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 1: are you talking about. I was like, I think everyone 1305 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: should be a whore. I literally know one of my 1306 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: number one mission statements is slut dumb for everyone. I 1307 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 1: literally was congratulating people on having communication open that they 1308 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: felt they could be a whore on INSTAGM. Yeah yeah, 1309 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 1: And then I was on I thought I was on fire, 1310 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: and so I was like, oh, I'm gonna tweet again, 1311 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 1: and I said something like we have to stop trying 1312 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: to change each other in relationships. You DMed me because 1313 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 1: you thought he's cute and I'm smarter than him, and 1314 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 1: so now I'm not going to start reading because I'm 1315 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 1: an actress. Woe better than revenge belt belt and people 1316 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: were like, why are you doing this? It's like you 1317 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: can't be too detailed. It was like, I thought it 1318 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 1: was funny. 1319 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 2: Right, but it's like you can't be too like, you 1320 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 2: can't like put too much detail on it, you can't 1321 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 2: be too vague. 1322 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: Like our own girls were like, I know, I know. 1323 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 1: It's a weird collective time right now. Venus is in 1324 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 1: retrograde and is Leo season, which got me really excited. 1325 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: Did you see chohnnie Ye did her post? He got 1326 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,919 Speaker 1: me really hype Leo season could be fun? She said, 1327 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: all caps unfollow. I said, I know that's right. 1328 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 2: I know Brooke Ashley at the Rony premiere, I said, 1329 01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 2: I know that's right. I've been saying that to you 1330 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 2: a lot lately. I k t R, I k t R, 1331 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 2: I k t R favorite radio station. Now, before we 1332 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,479 Speaker 2: move on to I Don't Think so money, and close 1333 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 2: out the episode really quickly, I want to say. The 1334 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 2: only cult ripe and consuming besides Barbie and Oppenheimer Laer 1335 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 2: tonight is couple's therapy. 1336 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, obsessed, obsessed. 1337 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 2: You're middle of the season. I'm in the mid What 1338 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 2: do you think so far? Sean and Erica, Well, he 1339 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 2: is a villain. I would agree, Erica, I. 1340 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 1: Think we need to move on. 1341 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 2: There's a kid. Yeah, but there's a I know it's 1342 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 2: not a reason to stay. There's a kid, and she 1343 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 2: has had a life. 1344 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: That's certainly true. I get it. I'd like whenever someone 1345 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 1: is in a bad relationship and I see it, and 1346 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: especially now like with the years accumulating, like it's always 1347 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 1: just like God, I understand more and more why people 1348 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: don't act. I do get it, but it's also so 1349 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 1: clear when they need to. I know, and you wish 1350 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 1: you had that for yourself, but you can never tell 1351 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 1: for yourself. 1352 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 2: No, you need an Orna. Matters of the heart, matters 1353 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 2: of the heart. Orna is amazing, one of the most 1354 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 2: impressive people I've ever seen. 1355 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would extend the invite for her to come 1356 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 1: on this podcast, but I'd be scared why because she'd 1357 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 1: be like, now, where did you go? Where did you go? 1358 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: Where are you Matt And why did you when he 1359 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 1: said that you flinched? You flinched? No? Can I just 1360 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 1: say what's happening here? Her inflection on her questions that 1361 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: just that light accent, the light sort of like, tell me, 1362 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I think it's interesting. That's got 1363 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 1: an Orna's got an Urna. She is. 1364 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 2: My favorite thing is when she goes it's like the 1365 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 2: first time she meets the couples and she goes, so 1366 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 2: tell me, tell me, tell me so chic And can 1367 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 2: I say this is not me being shady? 1368 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 1: You should be or not on weekend not to talk 1369 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,440 Speaker 1: about the industry. No, no, no, we're not, We're not. We're 1370 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 1: not plugging, we're not scabbing. 1371 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 2: The way she dresses is both oh not quite right 1372 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 2: and yet the chicest. And you can tell her kids 1373 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 2: have done like weird little microbraids on her, and you're like, 1374 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 2: you let that happen because you're a good mother. Yeah, 1375 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 2: and you're cheak enough that you can just like pull 1376 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 2: it off and wear like a blazer and walk out 1377 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 2: the door and be like, I'm a psychoanalyst, you know. 1378 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, only a psychoanalyst could really get away with it. 1379 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 2: I mean, just where where does she live? For green 1380 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 2: something that. Yeah, it's giving like Central Brooks. I love 1381 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 2: the Central brooklynesthetic. It's that vibe. 1382 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 1: I you know what's crazy is it's like you have 1383 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 1: to imagine like these people are going on that show. 1384 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 1: They know it's a television show, so they come in 1385 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 1: with that baggage. And I feel like in this season 1386 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 1: it's the first time that I'm ever seeing people be 1387 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: like look at their partner and be like, Okay, well 1388 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this thing on television. 1389 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 2: Right, But I think the camera is not being visible 1390 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 2: at all at any point. Mind trick, mind trick, And yes, 1391 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 2: either the person is hyper aware for that reason, that 1392 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 2: the cameras are there, like through like the two way 1393 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 2: mirror or or the one way mirror, whatever it is, 1394 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 2: or they just completely forget. But what Orna says in 1395 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 2: all this press that she's done for the shows in 1396 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,519 Speaker 2: the last few years, because I like was googling her, 1397 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 2: She's like, I thought the cameras would be an obstacle, 1398 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 2: but now the work, the work is the work, and 1399 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 2: I'm like work. She's incredible, She's amazing. 1400 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 1: She is one of the most google able people too, 1401 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 1: Like I think her Wikipedia could be longer. Absolutely, I 1402 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 1: don't never think that about anybody. Never ever think that 1403 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 1: about anyone. I'll be honest. Sometimes I go to someone's 1404 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 1: Wikipedia and I think to myself, say that I didn't 1405 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 1: need all this. I need all this, get made a 1406 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 1: personal life quicker honey on my own, on my own edit. 1407 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,599 Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you kidding me? I'm going y'all 1408 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 1: are still quoting that marine out piece? No, that was 1409 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 1: not it, okay, mine, says my sat Nact scores. I said, 1410 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: that's not okay, not okay. That's a violation. That's hippa. 1411 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 1: You know what, that's a hip that's a hippa violation. 1412 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 1: That actually might be no, it might be well, we're 1413 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna look into it. I think I must have said 1414 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,680 Speaker 1: that on the podcast. I'm twenty nineteen, like when I 1415 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 1: was like and then like now they're just out there 1416 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 1: and they're they're right, those are my scores. 1417 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 2: But no one needs to know. And you know, motherfucking 1418 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,439 Speaker 2: Willie Geist is going to be like in a couple 1419 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,719 Speaker 2: of years, be like, so I read that you got 1420 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,799 Speaker 2: a thirty one on your AC. 1421 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 1: I did get a thirty one. Did you just guess that? 1422 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,560 Speaker 1: I just guessed that's a good score. I thought it 1423 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,480 Speaker 1: was pretty fucking good. Great, But then people are like, oh, 1424 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 1: like what there. All of a sudden you realize that 1425 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,479 Speaker 1: like Randos in your life have these really high sat 1426 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 1: n Act scores, but outing you by saying you got 1427 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 1: a perfect score and that you no, no, you're not 1428 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 1: adding me, You're not adding that's pretty fucking good, bitch. 1429 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 2: It's but it's I was a good test taker and 1430 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,719 Speaker 2: I was not even books smart, definitely not street smart. 1431 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,519 Speaker 1: Were you doping? I was doping. I was doping in 1432 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 1: the testing center. The proctor saw me dope, and I said, 1433 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 1: I'll let you get away with it. I'm gonna read 1434 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 1: a random real culture. Okay, okay, Wow, we have so 1435 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 1: many repeat numbers. Oh my god, look roller culture number 1436 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 1: seventy two, bo Bowen and Matt Are, Oprah and Winfrey. 1437 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 1: Whatever that means. Whatever that means. Now it's okay. So 1438 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at my list of cultural topics and 1439 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm seeing, I'm seeing if I can source one of 1440 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 1: them for our segment. 1441 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden. I do think so, honey, Hunter Biden. You 1442 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 2: are obsessed with Hunter Biden in a good way. I 1443 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,680 Speaker 2: would like to play him in a biopic. Yes, I know, 1444 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:52,719 Speaker 2: asker Winner. 1445 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,719 Speaker 1: I think Hunter Biden is my Oscar. It's the best 1446 01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: cast thing since Margot Robbie played Barbie. I would absolutely 1447 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 1: slay as Hunter Biden. I'm speechless. I'm not I'm ready 1448 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 1: to read the script. 1449 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,200 Speaker 2: Are you gonna have them draw the bags under your 1450 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,720 Speaker 2: eyes or are you gonna I honestly don't need them 1451 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 2: drawn in Look, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying. 1452 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 1: Or are you gonna like really like pull pull pull 1453 01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 1: poll like. I will do what I need to do 1454 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 1: to be methodist Hunter Biden if it means I needed 1455 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,839 Speaker 1: to do whatever I need to do, I've rarely felt 1456 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 1: as connected to a piece as I feel about the 1457 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden Bile pic that's not yet written. I don't 1458 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 1: know who's gonna write it. Maybe it's you Well, who 1459 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 1: majored in dramatic writing, my friend bid I do think so, honey, 1460 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 1: that we spoke about the strike, we spoke about Bowen's absence, 1461 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 1: we spoke about Barbie. I mentioned Mission Impossible, I mentioned 1462 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 1: theater camp. We said we're seeing Oppen Hummer tonight. Yes 1463 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 1: you wanted to go first? Switch it up or not? 1464 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,600 Speaker 1: By the way, we're on indictment watch. Indictment. We're on 1465 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: an indictment watch. We're gonna get him this time. We 1466 01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,760 Speaker 1: are gonna get him this time. I was telling you 1467 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:01,679 Speaker 1: right now. I think we have a handful of more 1468 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,719 Speaker 1: indictment watches. Okay, I think I can do mine. 1469 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,160 Speaker 2: Okay, this is I don't think so, honey. This is 1470 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 2: our a segment where we take one minute to rail 1471 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,240 Speaker 2: against something in culture. 1472 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Sorry about this. 1473 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 2: Mann is apologizing ahead of his I don't think so, honey. 1474 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 2: I'm so interested to see what this is. This is me, 1475 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 2: this is Matt Rogers is I don't think so many painful. 1476 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,879 Speaker 2: I don't think Sony as time starts now. 1477 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Housewives of Potomac and this 1478 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,679 Speaker 1: new fight that's happening, maybe Potomac is done. I don't know, Guys. 1479 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 1: It pains me to say it because I do think 1480 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 1: so honey. That I said on this podcast, I believe 1481 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,000 Speaker 1: it was four years ago. Don't sleep on Potomac. I 1482 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 1: did not like what I saw on this video. Time 1483 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,679 Speaker 1: to go back to bed, any of the girls. It's 1484 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,719 Speaker 1: been rough. I don't know what to say about two 1485 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 1: friends of getting into it and this way to the 1486 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 1: point where someone gets tossed down a little flight of stairs. 1487 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 1: The video is chilling. I don't think so, honey. Fighting 1488 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 1: like I don't think so honey. When things come to 1489 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,880 Speaker 1: physical bulls for the second time on the show, and 1490 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 1: like a kind of running thing is like who's gonna 1491 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,759 Speaker 1: hit who? No, I think this Rony reboot is working. 1492 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying we need to reboot Potomac. I'm saying 1493 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,760 Speaker 1: we need to look at Potomac five seconds because it's 1494 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,799 Speaker 1: not good. And that was like the end of the season. 1495 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 1: Is this going to end on a bad note? I 1496 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 1: don't think so. And that's one that I couldn't agree more. 1497 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 2: I hate saying, I hate hearing, and I hate agreeing 1498 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,600 Speaker 2: with you. I'm still firmly of the belief that the 1499 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 2: vibes are bad all around, chiefly emanating from Giselle Bryant, 1500 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 2: Mia Thornton Darby, these two fucking what's her name Sesame, Sebra, 1501 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,559 Speaker 2: Deborah Deborah, and then well apparently it's Wendy's new friend. 1502 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,760 Speaker 1: And my thing is just like, of course we don't 1503 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 1: know what happened, but like it was Ashley Darby's event, 1504 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 1: and I just feel like we're not moving forward Towards 1505 01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,599 Speaker 1: the end of the season. It really wasn't fun to watch. 1506 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,600 Speaker 2: Used to be that all these women were funny, yeah, 1507 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 2: and like fun and not that I'm not saying that's 1508 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,680 Speaker 2: all a can be, but the vibes were just like 1509 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,679 Speaker 2: pretty immaculate for just a second there, and I really 1510 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 2: wish we could freeze that an Amber. 1511 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,559 Speaker 1: I think something's gotta give with it. I hated seeing 1512 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: the fight. 1513 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 2: I don't it was not It was not a good 1514 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 2: thing to watch, and I don't even think I even 1515 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 2: watched the whole way through us. 1516 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,719 Speaker 1: It was tard. I did you were the I learned 1517 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 1: from you that they fell down a flight of stairs. Yeah, 1518 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,680 Speaker 1: it was really crazy. I mean like someone could have 1519 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 1: gotten really hurt like it. It was more upsetting than 1520 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 1: the Monique in Canvas fight, of course. Well the Monique 1521 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 1: in Candas fight was like a flurry of violence that 1522 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 1: ended in like them, like in a deadlock, and like 1523 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 1: a lock. This was a knockdown, drag out that was 1524 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 1: a tough one violence and that's atually really coachure number thirty. 1525 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Violence is never the answer. Sorry. 1526 01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 2: Okay, well i'll all shift gears. We're gonna get a 1527 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:04,679 Speaker 2: gear shift. I have a text from Andy Cohen. Okay, 1528 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 2: can we read it on the show. 1529 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,599 Speaker 1: Thank you for hosting reality Check this week. So I'm 1530 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,719 Speaker 1: hosting reality Check this week and radio and very exciting. Andy. 1531 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:12,760 Speaker 1: I want you to know I was not going to 1532 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,800 Speaker 1: read your text if it was personal, but it ended 1533 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 1: up being promotional, and so I read that, and it's 1534 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 1: the one thing he can promote. I thought he was 1535 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,719 Speaker 1: going to ask me, what are your thoughts on Rony? 1536 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 1: Because I did text him, I electively gave my thoughts. Yes, 1537 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,640 Speaker 1: so fun, And I said, do you I just want you 1538 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: to know I think this is a home run. And 1539 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,680 Speaker 1: he responded and was very excited. He said he was 1540 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 1: breathing a sigh of relief to have it out. And 1541 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,519 Speaker 1: I think we're onto good things with this one too. 1542 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: He seems excited too. Yeah, you should be. Yeah. Do 1543 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,599 Speaker 1: you have something that's kind of grinding your ears too? 1544 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 1: And it's been on my mind for a little bit. 1545 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Well you've had much time to think 1546 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,799 Speaker 1: of it. Yep, this is Billan Yangs. I don't think so, honey. 1547 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:45,720 Speaker 1: His time starts now. 1548 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. The city of Amsterdam. I 1549 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 2: was recently in you with our friend Cola Scola, who 1550 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:54,760 Speaker 2: came up from Ghent to visit me. 1551 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 1: It was really nice to me to love it. 1552 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,840 Speaker 2: We saw Dutch Ley Miz Darling, Dear Darling, dear, so 1553 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,160 Speaker 2: fun so lovely, was completely in Dutch. I was at 1554 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 2: the opera. Oh, I was like, I don't know what's 1555 01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:04,759 Speaker 2: being sung exactly, but I know the story. 1556 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I know. Oh, this is emotionally. You knew every minute. 1557 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Our eponine was phenomenal. Our fontine flop. But I don't 1558 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,960 Speaker 1: think some man of the city of Amsterdam as you 1559 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: cannot have a weed city, a drug city and have 1560 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,680 Speaker 1: everyone be riding bikes. It's a recipe for disaster. 1561 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,720 Speaker 2: Either the pedestrians are stoned and being slow and not 1562 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,640 Speaker 2: moving out of the way, or the people on the 1563 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 2: bikes are on acid and they shouldn't be on the bike. 1564 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 2: And also the Dutch people in general, it's you can't 1565 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 2: be rude and kookie, and you're both. Most of you 1566 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 2: are both. And I'm gonna be a little racist here 1567 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:39,840 Speaker 2: and say that most of you are both. 1568 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was racist against white people to 1569 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 1: say that we're kookie and not all the Dutch. Here's 1570 01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 1: the thing when weed becomes a part of a culture. 1571 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 1: I think functionality also goes way up on marijuana. I've 1572 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,800 Speaker 1: never figured it out. I'm never functional on it. But 1573 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,679 Speaker 1: you were functional when you were like waiting tables. That's 1574 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,840 Speaker 1: because the place where I was high waiting tables was 1575 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,960 Speaker 1: one of the easiest places to work in America, and 1576 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 1: that ulysses can we say? I think so okay? I 1577 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,280 Speaker 1: worked at this restaurant in the financial distruct and I 1578 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:17,400 Speaker 1: would literally work from seven pm to four am. That 1579 01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 1: sounds awful on Monday nights. And because we pulled tips, 1580 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,479 Speaker 1: it was like every whatever, everyone had made the money 1581 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,519 Speaker 1: earlier and so because I was there logging the hours, 1582 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,559 Speaker 1: I made the money. So I could go in there 1583 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,519 Speaker 1: at like seven pm at the end of a dinner 1584 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 1: rush on Monday, and like stay till four because the 1585 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 1: kitchen was open till four for whatever reason, I was 1586 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:37,920 Speaker 1: on the floor. I wasn't even behind the bar, and 1587 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 1: I would make a lot of money so I could 1588 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,120 Speaker 1: be so fucking. 1589 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,960 Speaker 2: On Monday at four am. That was my shift Monday, 1590 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,719 Speaker 2: seven pm to four am. And because for some reason, 1591 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,840 Speaker 2: Monday dinner was good. I think it was lobster night. 1592 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,080 Speaker 1: You guys had great seafood, really did. Yeah. And then 1593 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 1: I was able to make a large chunk of the 1594 01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,320 Speaker 1: money because I had high hours. In fact, I had 1595 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,360 Speaker 1: the most hours because I was seven pm to four 1596 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 1: am on a Monday evening. 1597 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,840 Speaker 2: Yes, wow, but I would say you were you went 1598 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,080 Speaker 2: to work stoned and you it was fine? Like that 1599 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,439 Speaker 2: is I've never so some people I don't don't condone. 1600 01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 2: Some people can drive a car high, no no way, 1601 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 2: no way, And this is a town full of people 1602 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 2: who ride bikes high or walk around high while bikes 1603 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 2: are flying past them. I was like, this doesn't work. No, 1604 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 2: this doesn't work. Cut to me on the ground. Cut 1605 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 2: to me on the ground in a heap next to 1606 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:32,400 Speaker 2: the end Frank House. 1607 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,639 Speaker 1: Cut to me in a heap on the ground next 1608 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:39,600 Speaker 1: to the an Frank House, bloody beaten battern and biked 1609 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 1: down because I was high, because I got high, because 1610 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 1: I got because I got ha Remember when that was 1611 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 1: a number one hit. 1612 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,560 Speaker 2: I saw that music video for the first time and 1613 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,040 Speaker 2: got a sleepover, all boys sleepover and we were what 1614 01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 2: like ten years old, Yeah, being as I got high 1615 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:05,519 Speaker 2: afromn Oh that was his name, that was him, right, Yeah, 1616 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:06,240 Speaker 2: we were like. 1617 01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 1: Becca came in harm with that? Was that your jam? 1618 01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:18,080 Speaker 1: You know? Middle school? Were you a Becca? Eighth grade? Stonor? Okay, 1619 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:23,639 Speaker 1: so you were we can say, no the baddest bitch. Yes, yes, 1620 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 1: we know, so we know. So you sort of do 1621 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 1: give that vibe. 1622 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you give off the vibe of I'm grown now 1623 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,839 Speaker 2: I don't have to like compensate for anything. 1624 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,679 Speaker 1: Well you can't. That's the thing is. It's like talking 1625 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 1: about like high functionality. I can't smoke and do a 1626 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,720 Speaker 1: damn thing. No, no more because now I know it 1627 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:48,559 Speaker 1: makes me like anxious socially, like especially like when you're 1628 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 1: already at something and it's going well, and then you 1629 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 1: smoke and you're like, oh no, I didn't have to 1630 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,400 Speaker 1: do that. The one and only time it was ever 1631 01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,040 Speaker 1: good was when we were at the Boom Boom Room. 1632 01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,840 Speaker 1: You remember when yes, from that one person joint, from 1633 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,439 Speaker 1: that one person's joint. Oh my god, I have not 1634 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 1: heard from that person. I haven't heard from that person either. 1635 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:11,639 Speaker 1: I hope he's doing okay, okay, anyway, anyways, okay, let 1636 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,400 Speaker 1: me look at my other do we miss anything? Eras 1637 01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 1: in Denver and just like that is terrible. 1638 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,040 Speaker 2: I mean, nominations, we can't can't talk about it, we 1639 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 2: can't talk about it. 1640 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 1: The Vampire by Olivia Rodrigo love it, blood sucker, fame, fucker, God, 1641 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:37,040 Speaker 1: the suck your do It's giving queen. Yes, have people 1642 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,519 Speaker 1: been saying that. I just think if they're saying that, 1643 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,479 Speaker 1: they're not saying a loud I'm just saying it sounds 1644 01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,360 Speaker 1: like like from beginning to end, it sounds like a 1645 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 1: queen song. It's really good. I believe the girl did 1646 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,760 Speaker 1: it again. Also, I want to say about Barbie that 1647 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,000 Speaker 1: Billie Eilish song that might win her another Oscar gorgeous 1648 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,599 Speaker 1: song that is really good and it plays really well. 1649 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,360 Speaker 1: With them. Yes, Billy is Billy's Billy's good. Billy. Come 1650 01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,439 Speaker 1: on the pod, Billy, Come on the pod, Billy. She's 1651 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,280 Speaker 1: a musician. She's allowed. I guess we can't talk to 1652 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 1: her about the Barber movie though, thought she'd be promoting. 1653 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,840 Speaker 1: Can't talk to her about that little show where she's 1654 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,600 Speaker 1: that cult girl. Can't talk about it, can't talk about it. No, 1655 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 1: we can talk about Swarm. We can't talk about Swarm. 1656 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 1: She can't talk about Swarm. But I haven't seen Swarm. 1657 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,400 Speaker 2: Well, the theater camp thing, we can. We can talk 1658 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 2: about theater Camp. I haven't seen it yet, thought it 1659 01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,599 Speaker 2: was great. I haven't seen it yet. Got stars in it, 1660 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,480 Speaker 2: stars Galore, Patty Patti. 1661 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 1: Ohio, Ben Molly, Noah, we were actually Nathan Lee Graham. 1662 01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. It's an all star cast. It's an actually 1663 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,519 Speaker 1: very lost cult coded in terms of the cast. Has 1664 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,160 Speaker 1: everyone been on not? Noah? 1665 01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 2: Noah? Soon baby soon, babe. We love you well. 1666 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,360 Speaker 1: Bosucker hold on. Congratulations to Jimbo. 1667 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 2: Congratulations to Jimbo and La Lai and Candy mus and 1668 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:59,000 Speaker 2: Candy Muse, Candy Muse, Legend Star. I mean all I 1669 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:04,200 Speaker 2: thought about all season was Star and you cannot and 1670 01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,599 Speaker 2: I know we have a bias in saying this, but 1671 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,559 Speaker 2: I'm tired of hearing people say it was a bad season. No, 1672 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,320 Speaker 2: because you know what we got out of it in 1673 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:15,080 Speaker 2: the end, even a redemption arc for Monica of Beverly Hills, 1674 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,800 Speaker 2: not a silken clock. If this season can deliver Monica 1675 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 2: Beverly Hills a viral me moment, then it was a great, 1676 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,960 Speaker 2: successful season. Everyone walked away from that season with something 1677 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,320 Speaker 2: to gain. And you can't say that for all All 1678 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:28,120 Speaker 2: Star seasons. 1679 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:33,320 Speaker 1: End. We end every episode with a song, not a 1680 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 1: sil can clock, Not a sil can clock, not a 1681 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:43,960 Speaker 1: silking clock. Slay and Slay and Sir and Slay. Do 1682 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:51,799 Speaker 1: you like that? Daddy? Bye Bye,