Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the Home Office in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1: And for the first time ever, I have a guest,
Speaker 1: obviously not on the show. I've had many guests on
Speaker 1: the show, but I've never had a guest here in
Speaker 1: Studio A, here in the Home office in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 2: Do you know that I did not know that? This
Speaker 2: is an honor.
Speaker 1: This is the first time I've ever had anybody in
Speaker 1: my home. That's the reason is Studio A is in
Speaker 1: our home. I'm not just going to have everyone in
Speaker 1: our house. So here we go. Jason Tartick the first
Speaker 1: guest ever at the Home Office in Austin, Texas. He
Speaker 1: was here a month ago for our wedding. It's our
Speaker 1: one month anniversary. Lauren and I have made it. That's
Speaker 1: really the big I've heard, that's really the big one
Speaker 1: to get over is that one month anniversary.
Speaker 2: Thirty days, thirty days.
Speaker 1: I got to get to that day. We have crushed
Speaker 1: the first thirty days.
Speaker 2: Which day was the best.
Speaker 1: But so when Jason came to the wedding, I said, look,
Speaker 1: you and I at some point we got to sit
Speaker 1: down and we got to talk. We got to do this,
Speaker 1: and we both decided obviously during my wedding not the
Speaker 1: time to do that, and uh, but we we kind
Speaker 1: of put it on the back burner and it just
Speaker 1: turned out that Jay was coming back into town for
Speaker 1: this Sergio Garcia four Ties event for kids event that
Speaker 1: we just did.
Speaker 2: So we just.
Speaker 1: Happened to be back a month later. Perfect timing. We
Speaker 1: both were talking as he was coming into town and
Speaker 1: we said, it's time, it's time we have a talk.
Speaker 1: So here it is Jason Tartik Chris Harrison. The most
Speaker 1: dramatic podcast ever find you. You have never felt the
Speaker 1: wrath of the hot Seat before?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was an intense start.
Speaker 3: I'm like with jall, we did have a conversation about
Speaker 3: us having to talk.
Speaker 2: I agree what it was. We'll see.
Speaker 3: It worked out perfect. This weekend made a couple deals
Speaker 3: with Chris. I was like, great, I'll come on your
Speaker 3: show if you come on my show. But I have
Speaker 3: felt a little bit of the intensity of the hot Seat.
Speaker 3: I think the last time you and I were this
Speaker 3: close with microphones in our face, seeing miked up. Well,
Speaker 3: yesterday we had some fun at the Sergio Tournament, but
Speaker 3: was in two thousand and eighteen when I was in
Speaker 3: the hot seat at Mentel All after Becca Kouprian was
Speaker 3: the batterrip, but they didn't sit us this close to
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 2: We had a little bit more space.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think, you know what's funny when
Speaker 1: I think of you, I don't even remember what season
Speaker 1: you were on. There's certain the rest of the world, no,
Speaker 1: but there's certain seasons are there's certain people where they're
Speaker 1: friends of mine, and actually, like, if I'm going to
Speaker 1: have to go do a show, I'll have to or
Speaker 1: an interview, I will have to go look up like
Speaker 1: Wells Adams like stuff like that. I'm like, I just
Speaker 1: know him as a friend now, and you're the same.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what season were you on? And Becca's season,
Speaker 1: which ironically was when I started dating L's Z. Yeah,
Speaker 1: was becka season. It was her tell All where we
Speaker 1: kind of first had our first rendezvous on our first
Speaker 1: big date and the infamous Cabo trip happened after the
Speaker 1: Final Roads special. But we have never really sat down
Speaker 1: and had this heart to heart, which I'm glad we're
Speaker 1: finally doing. And the overview of this whole thing too.
Speaker 1: Your second book is coming out. Yeah, obviously, I'm going
Speaker 1: to reciprocate. I'm going to go on Trading Secrets, Jason's
Speaker 1: amazing podcast. If you're into business, which you should be,
Speaker 1: I love the way you approach business. I love the
Speaker 1: way you talk about things because you extrapolate things into
Speaker 1: an everyday bite size, digestible comment, break down whatever. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I understand this now. So if you're not savvy about business,
Speaker 1: if you're not into it, check out Trading Secrets.
Speaker 3: But the new book, yes, the new book, it connects
Speaker 3: actually to this show, I think. So it's called Talk
Speaker 3: Money to Me. It's available for pre order now on Amazon.
Speaker 3: But the whole idea is, it's like when love meets money, right,
Speaker 3: And we have so many hard conversations about just love
Speaker 3: in general and compatibility and all these things, but the
Speaker 3: idea of money, it's something we neglect. And so that's
Speaker 3: the main preface of the book.
Speaker 1: Easily the number one thing that breaks up families, marriages, relationships,
Speaker 1: and it's something we never talk about exactly, is money.
Speaker 1: And Lauren and I have had this conversation and we've
Speaker 1: had some other business people on to kind of go
Speaker 1: into this, but it is such a vital It's like
Speaker 1: we talk about kids, do you want to have kids?
Speaker 1: You want to have kids? When do we want to
Speaker 1: have kids?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: Where do we want to live? How About how much
Speaker 1: debt are you bringing into this relationship? And by the way,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean if you have a lot, I'm going
Speaker 1: to break up with you, but if LZ is walking
Speaker 1: into our relationship with a million dollars in debt, I
Speaker 1: need to know that that is massively important. And that's
Speaker 1: a question that we don't often ask our significant other.
Speaker 1: And then you get into it and you know you're
Speaker 1: your five steps past. You know, you bury the lead
Speaker 1: of this whole thing.
Speaker 3: It's the transparency, in the clarity is what drives a unit, right.
Speaker 3: And so it's not that in that circumstance, which was
Speaker 3: a made up hypothetical that Elsie would have a million
Speaker 3: dollars a debt, it's that it wasn't talked about. And
Speaker 3: when it's not talked about, resentment builds. Where resentment builds,
Speaker 3: it breaks relationships, it impacts It's crazy to think that
Speaker 3: financial discussions inspects intimacy in the bedroom. And so the
Speaker 3: whole book is my first two introductions. Now I'm about
Speaker 3: my life right, So I'm an MBA and accounting and finance.
Speaker 3: I own a few businesses. I've leant over one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty million dollars two businesses. So if I'm making
Speaker 3: mistakes on this, which I've made a lot on which
Speaker 3: I talk about in the book, I assume that a
Speaker 3: lot of people haven't had the conversations. And so it's
Speaker 3: ten chapters, two introductory chapters of things that I screwed up.
Speaker 3: The next eight chapters are questions. So the answers are
Speaker 3: not subjective, they're objective. The answer is a number, and
Speaker 3: it's a number you need to know about yourself and
Speaker 3: your partner. How to have the conversation, how to improve
Speaker 3: that for your well being, into work as a unit,
Speaker 3: to increase and build your overall financial wealth and happiness.
Speaker 1: Hugely important.
Speaker 2: Read this.
Speaker 1: Get it into your college kids, your high school kids' hands.
Speaker 1: You know the quicker you learn this, and you know
Speaker 1: we'll talk probably much more about this on your podcast.
Speaker 1: But it's it's something I just wasn't taught. And it's
Speaker 1: laughable that we go through high school, even college and
Speaker 1: we don't really learn compound interest. We don't learn about alone.
Speaker 1: What that means about balancing a checkbook. Sure I can
Speaker 1: make an ash tray, but you know, but I can't
Speaker 1: balance a checkbook. How are we not teaching kids? You
Speaker 1: know that I'm not here to poopoo on algebra, But
Speaker 1: let me tell you what I've used more of in
Speaker 1: my life more than algebra.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And a basic skills of knowing, investing and managing your
Speaker 1: money is so important totally.
Speaker 3: And I think one thing you see now, especially with
Speaker 3: social media and everything happening in our world, is like
Speaker 3: keeping up with the Kardashians, right, like what are you wearing?
Speaker 2: How are you showing your wealth?
Speaker 3: And there's so much actual gas lighting through assets in
Speaker 3: today's world.
Speaker 2: So the idea of like.
Speaker 3: How about you just pull each other's credit report and
Speaker 3: maybe like talk through the successes you've had and your
Speaker 3: credit score and your income and your debt, because that
Speaker 3: shows the truth. Numbers don't lie, they don't take things
Speaker 3: out of context. And then you could have open conversations,
Speaker 3: which was increasing vulnerability, increasing connection, and overall increasing the
Speaker 3: over overall health of a relationship.
Speaker 1: This is a freebie for you for your next book.
Speaker 1: Lay it up and It's only a chapter, so it's
Speaker 1: not going to be that expensive, but one of the
Speaker 1: chapters needs to be before you see each other naked,
Speaker 1: see each other's credit score.
Speaker 3: Ooh, I like that line. I do have a line
Speaker 3: in there similar to that. So if we could talk
Speaker 3: openly about sex and have sex with one another, then
Speaker 3: we should be able to talk about our finances and
Speaker 3: what we want out of our life.
Speaker 1: If I feel free to say, Hey, I would like
Speaker 1: for you to dress up like a circus clown before
Speaker 1: you come in the bedroom, I think I should also
Speaker 1: say how much student loan debt do you have? I
Speaker 1: know one's a little sexy than the other. Well really,
Speaker 1: the clowns not. But you get the point.
Speaker 2: Is this a thing of yours Chris?
Speaker 3: It is. No.
Speaker 1: We don't like clowns. We don't like clowns. Not one
Speaker 1: of the fantasies. You and I have had a good
Speaker 1: couple of days. We've been here, played a little golf,
Speaker 1: we've had we're sitting on a couple of shiner blondes Texas,
Speaker 1: and maybe had a tequila shot before we came on
Speaker 1: the show. Because we're going to dive into it, We're
Speaker 1: going to talk about the relationships. It's funny, you know,
Speaker 1: because I met you obviously you were on the show,
Speaker 1: and it was rumored and talked about you actually being
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. I'm curious because you know, I know probably
Speaker 1: fifty percent of what's really going on behind the scenes
Speaker 1: because they were very much they love to kind of
Speaker 1: keep their cards close to the vest when they're making
Speaker 1: those decisions about who the bachelor bache Arett's going to
Speaker 1: be sure they would ask me or ask my opinion,
Speaker 1: but you know opinions. How that goes in your mind
Speaker 1: of what you were talked about? How close were you
Speaker 1: to being the Bachelor?
Speaker 2: Did you put in a good word for me? What's that?
Speaker 2: Did you put in a good word for me?
Speaker 1: I've said a million times I wanted you to be
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. There's two people that were in your camp
Speaker 1: I know for sure. Yes, Yeah, the executive producer Bennett
Speaker 1: Oh okay, greater fellow Buffalo boy Buffalo that was in
Speaker 1: the bag, Buffalo Buffalo. Yeah, that was easy. Bennett wanted
Speaker 1: you to be the Bachelor, so did I.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's good to know I had two people
Speaker 3: in my camp. I never truly thought I was going
Speaker 3: to be the Bacheler truly, and I didn't think.
Speaker 2: It because.
Speaker 3: I always thought cold storyline was just incredible and quite frankly.
Speaker 1: We didn't know the real storyline. I did a whole story.
Speaker 3: Right, but I'm like, this guy is six foot four,
Speaker 3: looks like Kenda Barbie Doll played in the NFL. He's
Speaker 3: a stud and he's a virgin. Like, okay, wow, that's
Speaker 3: great TV. And then the other thing is I thought
Speaker 3: that Blake was really like Blake's watching him deal with
Speaker 3: his breakdown with Becca was like I was crying for him.
Speaker 3: So I was like, this is a clear third runner,
Speaker 3: like if they both get sick or something. Colin, Jason
Speaker 3: and I asked for a lot of transparency because of
Speaker 3: work with leadership, and I got a lot of transparency
Speaker 3: of like i'd say, like twenty five percent, thirty percent.
Speaker 3: There was one time I think they're like, hey, I
Speaker 3: think odds have jumped up to like sixty percent. So
Speaker 3: there was a lot of transparency there. But at no
Speaker 3: point did I actually think it was going to be me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how close. Yeah, from my mind,
Speaker 1: I felt that was probably the case. You probably had
Speaker 1: a thirty forty percent chance. We wanted it to be more.
Speaker 1: I just thought you would have been a good everyday guy.
Speaker 1: We could have fixed the hair. At the time, you know,
Speaker 1: there was some tragic Buffalo stuff going on with the hair.
Speaker 1: You know, no offense to Buffalo because I love it
Speaker 1: and I got to get there soon. But the yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of hair gel back then. But
Speaker 1: you've come a long way. I mean the fashion look
Speaker 1: as you sitting here right now, you're such a fashion Easta.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but I might have to
Speaker 3: take this coat off because it is getting a little hot,
Speaker 3: knowing the topics coming up, so if it comes out that,
Speaker 3: I know, it gets intense.
Speaker 1: But it was something I thought would have been great
Speaker 1: because I really do think you would have been a
Speaker 1: good Bachelor, just because you're such a sincere guy, and
Speaker 1: I think America at the end of the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Colton in a you know, Colton was obviously a
Speaker 1: great season, and could you have jumped that fence? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. So Obviously the Colton season was pretty phenomenal,
Speaker 1: but I think there was a show to be had
Speaker 1: with you, just because America, especially with the Bachelor, resonates
Speaker 1: with relatability and you're just a relatable guy. I think
Speaker 1: people watch you, they listen to you, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I see myself in this guy. He's the kind of
Speaker 1: guy I could date, And so I think it would
Speaker 1: have been a good season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two thoughts I have, because you.
Speaker 1: Don't need the Bachelor to be explosive bachelorette more so
Speaker 1: that drama helps bachelor. You really don't need that. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at Sean Lowe. Yeah, not the craziest explosive story.
Speaker 1: I mean, and he was one of our most popular bachelors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 3: I think if you look at the like talked about
Speaker 3: some of the history of the Bachelor's I don't know
Speaker 3: that you'd call most of those individuals explosive, right, Like no,
Speaker 3: Matt James very even, Keel good guy, Clayton pretty even,
Speaker 3: Keel Nick's a pretty like even keel guy, Ari Ben Higgins, Right,
Speaker 3: I don't think you're talking about these like explosive personalities.
Speaker 3: Two things I have when I think about the time
Speaker 3: of like the selection of the Bachelor, that whole thing.
Speaker 3: I remember I'd get a lot of shit from people
Speaker 3: or like Reddit blogs and stuff, and they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's campaigning so hard to be the Bachelor. And I
Speaker 3: always thought about that, and I was like, oh, maybe
Speaker 3: I should have acted like I didn't want it. But no,
Speaker 3: like the reality is like that's wasn't It wasn't a campaign.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be the Bachelor.
Speaker 3: I got it, Like who everybody wants to be the Bacher.
Speaker 3: So I guess maybe there's like you should have played
Speaker 3: it more cool.
Speaker 1: No, it's And by the way, what are you doing
Speaker 1: on Reddit?
Speaker 3: All those blogs get sent, they get sent. You don't
Speaker 3: get the dms where they send you the links? No,
Speaker 3: okay they do.
Speaker 1: Oh god.
Speaker 2: The other thing is I would say, god, I don't.
Speaker 3: I would say back then, I would have been like,
Speaker 3: I'm such a different person than I was back then.
Speaker 3: So you know, things change. It's time for me to
Speaker 3: like put my head back into that space. It was
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, it's about to be twenty twenty four. In
Speaker 3: that wild it's I just don't know, like where time goes,
Speaker 3: because it seems like a whole different life ago, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I mean, when you're five six years removed, it
Speaker 1: just seems we were all, you know, so much more innocent, different.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I think about when I started the show.
Speaker 1: I moved here in ninety nine to la and you know,
Speaker 1: jumped on The Bachelor and two and is when it aired,
Speaker 1: and then I stayed there for twenty years. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: who does that? It just doesn't happen in this business.
Speaker 1: And so when I think about the kid that started
Speaker 1: and the man that left, you know, I've been married, divorced,
Speaker 1: to kids, kids in college. I mean, life has changed
Speaker 1: quite a bit.
Speaker 2: It's hard to put yourself back.
Speaker 1: And that's not even technologically speaking. How the world has
Speaker 1: changed and dating and all that. Yeah, you can't go
Speaker 1: back and look at that kid, that innocent kid that
Speaker 1: came from Buffalo and just hey night one. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: hope you like me.
Speaker 3: Now he's a jaded ex reality TV, broken down brus Cloud.
Speaker 1: So you get done with the show and then famously
Speaker 1: you start dating Caitlin Bristow. What precipitated that. I forget
Speaker 1: how that whole thing started.
Speaker 2: The heart rates instantly went up.
Speaker 3: Chris just got hotter in this room.
Speaker 2: I was the whole the whole thing was.
Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, I met her on her podcast because my
Speaker 3: understanding is she wanted me to be the Bachelor and
Speaker 3: then when they picked Colton, she was like, well, we
Speaker 3: got to jump on a show because like I really
Speaker 3: wanted you to be the bachelor.
Speaker 1: Three people in your corner there caitle too, so she
Speaker 1: was like, let's maybe the only person that had less
Speaker 1: poll than me on the.
Speaker 2: Show was fair.
Speaker 3: So she wanted to just be like, well, what's next.
Speaker 3: And so that's when I interviewed with her. But the
Speaker 3: first time I ever messaged Caitlyn, ironically enough, was I
Speaker 3: had gotten off the show and I had learned just
Speaker 3: about the whole ins and outs of this world and
Speaker 3: how kind of crazy it was, and you know, when
Speaker 3: you get off, you step into this mayhem and I always,
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't know what the hell to do about,
Speaker 3: like how to deal with it because a lot of
Speaker 3: like agents come up to you and all this stuff, right,
Speaker 3: And I I started to research like people that were
Speaker 3: on the show that had done a really good job,
Speaker 3: and I reached out to all those people that had
Speaker 3: done and be like, hey, just got the show a
Speaker 3: little confused as to how this world works. Do you
Speaker 3: have any insight. She was one of the people that
Speaker 3: I reached out too, and she was great. She had
Speaker 3: she like gave me great insight, and that was it.
Speaker 3: And then she asked me to come on the show
Speaker 3: and I'm a podcast with her in late October, and.
Speaker 1: That's where the sparks flew.
Speaker 2: That's where the sparks look.
Speaker 1: Okay, I did. I actually didn't tell.
Speaker 3: Me, at least I don't think for her. I remember
Speaker 3: when I first hugged her, I was like, oh.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I didn't know that story. I didn't know
Speaker 1: where you guys actually started dating or whatever. So it
Speaker 1: was on the it.
Speaker 3: Was it was yeah, it was well, we didn't know.
Speaker 3: She interviewed me on the show. I remember the sparks
Speaker 3: flew when I remember giving her a hug, and there's
Speaker 3: just a lot of banter, and she reminded me a
Speaker 3: lot of like people back home, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this girl's awesome. Then a friendship established. She put me
Speaker 3: in the friend zone for a little bit, and then
Speaker 3: we dated shortly thereafter a few months or so.
Speaker 1: I really appre So here's what's interesting about the two
Speaker 1: of you. Obviously I've been involved or you know, somewhat
Speaker 1: in touch or connected to a hundred breakups on the show.
Speaker 1: Because you know, I'm either friends with or have worked
Speaker 1: with someone in that relationship. I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: earlier before you and I came on today. I've never
Speaker 1: been so intertwined with a relationship and a breakup as
Speaker 1: I have been with you and Caitlin, because I guess
Speaker 1: I've never been as close with both people, and consider
Speaker 1: both of you friends, still talk to both of you.
Speaker 1: I invited both of you to our wedding. You guys
Speaker 1: both graciously showed up at our wedding. So I was
Speaker 1: just thinking, you know, usually there's a breakup and I'm
Speaker 1: friends with the bachelor, or I'm friends with the bachelorette.
Speaker 1: I'm not usually as close with the cast member that
Speaker 1: they got engaged with. So it's funny that I'm even
Speaker 1: sitting here with you, you know, not the bachelorette. And
Speaker 1: so it just goes to show like I'm good friends
Speaker 1: with both of you guys, and I've never I don't
Speaker 1: think I've ever been as involved or connected to a
Speaker 1: breakup as this one. And you know, Lauren and I
Speaker 1: both said we're inviting both of you guys to our wedding.
Speaker 1: There is no question that both of you guys are invited.
Speaker 1: We're going to just hit the ball over to their court,
Speaker 1: and it's totally up to you, guys. If one of
Speaker 1: you come, if both of you come, if none of
Speaker 1: you come. It was totally up to you, guys. And
Speaker 1: I really appreciated the fact that you both came. You
Speaker 1: both like put your swords down whatever. I don't know
Speaker 1: where it stood at the time. I don't care what
Speaker 1: it meant. What meant the most to me was that
Speaker 1: you both said, we love you guys, We're going to
Speaker 1: support you, We're going to beat your wedding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was nothing more important. I mean, we
Speaker 3: have again, Chris, you and I have known each other
Speaker 3: now since twenty eighteen. I think from the get go.
Speaker 3: I remember us talking about soccer, and we just developed
Speaker 3: a good friendship. And Bennett, of course and I had
Speaker 3: good friendship back then, and year over year that friendships progressed.
Speaker 3: And for me, there was nothing more important than being there,
Speaker 3: because it was to honor your day. It was to
Speaker 3: honor your celebration of love, your journey, your trials and
Speaker 3: tribulations to the happiness that you've finally got and to
Speaker 3: see you that happy and Lauren that happy.
Speaker 2: I would have kicked myself in the head, lived and regret.
Speaker 3: If I didn't go because of a prior relationship that
Speaker 3: didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Especially because it turned out to be such a kick
Speaker 1: ass party.
Speaker 3: There was a kick ass party, and the best part
Speaker 3: was is that I think if you look at that
Speaker 3: group of bachelorettes and bachelor's and former contestants that were
Speaker 3: at your wedding, there are a lot of tangled webs.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of tangled leaves.
Speaker 3: There was definitely drama in the past with a lot
Speaker 3: of them, and there still is current drama with some
Speaker 3: of them. But every single person there me included, every
Speaker 3: single person there made it about you two, and it
Speaker 3: was literally it was such a beautiful day.
Speaker 1: We talked about you. We had the Friday night event
Speaker 1: that it was LZ's idea to have everybody over here
Speaker 1: to kind of break the ice and so we could all,
Speaker 1: you know, in the safe confines of this house, see
Speaker 1: each other talk, let the weirdness kind of leave the room.
Speaker 1: So then when we all get together on Saturday for
Speaker 1: the wedding, we're ready to go. And obviously one of
Speaker 1: the awkward moments was going to be you and Caitlin,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking to myself, I'm glad they're both here.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful and it's going to be fine. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's going to be that moment when they first see
Speaker 1: each other. But you guys actually saw each other at
Speaker 1: the hotel before you came here, just total happenstance that
Speaker 1: you she they walked into the bar you were sitting at, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a lot of irony, and
Speaker 3: like the universe works in weird ways.
Speaker 2: You guys gave us three hotel rooms to stay at. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: I had booked a room for Caitlin and I had
Speaker 3: the minute we got the original invite, which is quite
Speaker 3: some time.
Speaker 1: When you were still together.
Speaker 3: So we had talked about like, hey, what do you
Speaker 3: want to do with this? Do you want to take
Speaker 3: it off?
Speaker 2: Take it?
Speaker 3: And so she was like I'll stay with trist I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, I'll take it. So I didn't read
Speaker 3: that room was at the Omni, but we could have
Speaker 3: booked at three rooms, three hotels and wells and every
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, well' where are you gonna be.
Speaker 2: Let's meet up.
Speaker 3: Then we're gonna be, Bob, We're gonna be We're all
Speaker 3: really good friends. And they were all at the other
Speaker 3: hotels like okay, so I was at this hotel by myself.
Speaker 3: So I'm getting ready. I'm like, I'll have a drink
Speaker 3: before Chris's party. And I go down to the I
Speaker 3: go down to the bar. I looked to my left
Speaker 3: and I see I see three very good looking women
Speaker 3: like get up and walk down, and I'm like, who
Speaker 3: was that? I was like, okay, I couldn't tell. But
Speaker 3: then I went, it's funny.
Speaker 2: I went.
Speaker 3: I kind of did a circle and I sat down,
Speaker 3: and then I did another look and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, that's Kateland and some of the others. And
Speaker 3: I was like, what do I do here? And Caitlyn
Speaker 3: broke the ice. She texted me and goes, hey, can
Speaker 3: you tell the bartender to hurry up? Like we put
Speaker 3: the order in twenty minutes ago. I was like, I
Speaker 3: thought that was here, but I didn't have time to
Speaker 3: say hello because you guys ran so quick.
Speaker 1: Sprinted out of the bar printed.
Speaker 2: I was like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: You know we're going to be together in thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what did y'all share a car over here?
Speaker 3: No? I offered that. I said, okay, now that we
Speaker 3: broke the ice. I'm gonna get an Uber Excel. If
Speaker 3: anybody in your group wants to come, you know, come
Speaker 3: on join. And uh, they were like, oh, we're good.
Speaker 3: We actually already ordered the Uber. So I came solo
Speaker 3: and I was the first one. I was twenty minute,
Speaker 3: twenty five minutes late.
Speaker 1: Here's what I appreciate. Yeah, yeah, I mean I would
Speaker 1: say you were on time. Good, that's fashionably late, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five minutes. The funny thing is Laura and
Speaker 1: I were sitting here and you know the time, say
Speaker 1: it's five thirty. I forget when the party was supposed
Speaker 1: to start, but it was sometime, you know, late afternoon evening,
Speaker 1: and nobody's here. I'm thinking, you know, maybe nobody shows up.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's in town. I don't know who
Speaker 1: came to our wedding. Like maybe you know they nobody's here.
Speaker 1: It's like a super Bowl party or a birthday party
Speaker 1: and nobody shows up your birthday. Yeah, yeah, it was uh.
Speaker 1: And then like twenty five minutes later, one car pulls
Speaker 1: up and it's Jay. So Jason comes in and he
Speaker 1: was like, hey, thanks for showing up. You're it man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a real crap load of chakouterie to
Speaker 1: eat and a bunch of wine. But then everybody started
Speaker 1: filing in behind you. I think thirty minutes was kind
Speaker 1: of the go to. Mark be thirty minutes late was
Speaker 1: the go to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there's a lot of people just coming in
Speaker 3: by the minute, but I was the first one here.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this is gonna be a good time.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get after it here.
Speaker 1: So Caitlyn showed up, and I think everybody was kind
Speaker 1: of just keeping that eye out, you know, like as
Speaker 1: voyeurs and just as you know, people that are tied
Speaker 1: to this franchise, we all we all knew the score.
Speaker 1: We all knew that they just broke up. So we're like,
Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on the vibe in the room,
Speaker 1: and are they gonna talk and are they gonna hug?
Speaker 1: And I was really pleasantly surprised to see you guys
Speaker 1: gave each other a big hug, you talked, y'all are smiling, laughing,
Speaker 1: and everybody just dove in and it was like you said,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of baggage in that room because it's
Speaker 1: one big and we've all dated, we've all they've been
Speaker 1: engaged and broken up and all this stuff, and so, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of baggage in that room, and there
Speaker 1: was a lot of drama, but everyone left it at
Speaker 1: the door and everyone had a great time, which I appreciated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think in a lot of this world
Speaker 3: there's always so much noise. Well, you're dealing with your
Speaker 3: own internal battles with whoever it may be or what
Speaker 3: may have been and what is and that's a general statement,
Speaker 3: and then there's other people that had so much noise
Speaker 3: because there's always so much like gossip behind the scenes
Speaker 3: and then outside noise. And I think one of the
Speaker 3: biggest takeaways I always think about is it can be
Speaker 3: just so productive to sit across from the person you
Speaker 3: might have dilemmas quarrels with and just like talk it
Speaker 3: out right. And I think a lot of the people
Speaker 3: there that I think a lot in general everyone got
Speaker 3: along really well, but people that may have had past
Speaker 3: experiences or whatever just saw each other eye to eye
Speaker 3: and it was it was a moment of like happiness.
Speaker 3: Everyone's there to celebrate you guys. And I thought that
Speaker 3: was just like a beautiful night. It was I really
Speaker 3: think it was a beautiful night of people like reconnecting
Speaker 3: and smiling and celebrating, and it was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was a lot more emotional than I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be. I wasn't expecting to be like
Speaker 1: hit so hard by just seeing the faces that I
Speaker 1: saw and feeling the love that I felt, and just
Speaker 1: how casual it was and how just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was talking actually to the Lady Gang and Kelty
Speaker 1: Knight and I were chatting about this, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of the goodbye that I
Speaker 1: guess I never had with all of you, you know,
Speaker 1: getting everybody together, and I'm kind of that connective tissue
Speaker 1: that will bring that crew together again. Maybe it's the
Speaker 1: last time all those people kind of get together again,
Speaker 1: from Trista to Tasha, you know that my run of shows,
Speaker 1: and so it was kind of cool to just get
Speaker 1: everyone together in that in that sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's interesting is I felt like such
Speaker 3: a high Friday. And I'm sure some of this is
Speaker 3: connected to my personal stuff, but I felt like such
Speaker 3: a high Friday, and Saturday or wedding Sunday, I felt
Speaker 3: like so down and out.
Speaker 2: I was like a little sad.
Speaker 1: I was like, it was so it was such a
Speaker 1: like the show's over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I didn't see Like, I don't know, there's
Speaker 3: so many people that I hadn't seen so long. In
Speaker 3: the conversations, I'm like, I think one of the things
Speaker 3: is like, well, probably that group of people will probably
Speaker 3: never as long as we live, like all be in
Speaker 3: the same room having some of the conversations and laughs.
Speaker 3: We did, and there was something that was like really
Speaker 3: fulfilling getting all.
Speaker 1: The wives together, you know, our significant others were all there,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I agree, I was I didn't
Speaker 1: really think of it alone. Actually who unfortunately couldn't be there.
Speaker 1: He and uh and Molly came in the next day
Speaker 1: and so they he was working on production and they
Speaker 1: were trying so hard. So he came for the wedding.
Speaker 1: He just couldn't make it. In one of our former
Speaker 1: executive users and he said the same thing where he's
Speaker 1: like this is that was a special group that was
Speaker 1: together in such an emotional night of I don't know,
Speaker 1: there was just a lot of love of everyone. I
Speaker 1: think everybody just was almost like we all needed it.
Speaker 1: We all just kind of needed there was because there's
Speaker 1: whether it's surrounding the franchise itself, surrounding each other, whatever
Speaker 1: the controversy and so many things that have been said
Speaker 1: and done, but very few people actually know the intimacy
Speaker 1: and the love and the respect and friendships we have within.
Speaker 1: And you know, it gets exploited a lot and gets
Speaker 1: talked about a lot, but it's not truly seen for.
Speaker 2: What it is.
Speaker 1: And I think in that room that night, we all
Speaker 1: just kind of were able to take a deep breath,
Speaker 1: and we weren't on camera, we weren't on microphones. Everyone
Speaker 1: could just relax.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a bunch of us said, it's
Speaker 3: a testament to you and Lauren, because everyone there, especially
Speaker 3: for those two days, brought such positive, kind energy, and
Speaker 3: a lot of us were like, it's just a testament
Speaker 3: to Chris and Lauren, like they surround themselves. Think about
Speaker 3: all the hundreds of people you've come across in the
Speaker 3: days of doing this. You guys, clearly surround yourself with
Speaker 3: people that provide good energy and fulfill you guys, and
Speaker 3: fulfill a room. And that's how your wedding felt, That's
Speaker 3: how the Friday night before felt, and it was it
Speaker 3: was special.
Speaker 1: We appreciated it and thank you for that. We loved
Speaker 1: every second of it, and I got it. I was
Speaker 1: actually I had a little fomo because you know, obviously
Speaker 1: it was our wedding night, and so you guys took
Speaker 1: off and all went out and Laura and I had
Speaker 1: a couple more stops to make that night for her
Speaker 1: family and some other friends. So we had to go
Speaker 1: to another event after everyone left our house, and you
Speaker 1: guys all went out downtown, and I was, I kind
Speaker 1: of had fomo. I'm like, there, this is this party
Speaker 1: in this love fest is going to continue, and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be a part of it. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to hear that. I'm not going to know you
Speaker 1: know these stories until tomorrow of what was said, what
Speaker 1: was done? Was it awkward When I came up to
Speaker 1: you and Caitlin when you all were talking by my fridge,
Speaker 1: and I asked if y'all were going to hook up?
Speaker 3: I'm dying right now. I thought it was funny. I
Speaker 3: thought you were you were funny.
Speaker 2: Chris is just it was all right, here's here it goes.
Speaker 3: The conversation it was we were just the funny part
Speaker 3: is is like we it was like the first words
Speaker 3: we had said to each other in three months. Like
Speaker 3: two minutes into it, here cubs Chris, So, you guys
Speaker 3: gonna hook up tonight? And I think I think your
Speaker 3: line was trust me breakup. Sex is amazing and I'm
Speaker 3: like Jesus, it's.
Speaker 1: Not healthy most of the time. It's very dysfunctional, but
Speaker 1: it could be great.
Speaker 3: They're unbelievable, and I think in general both Caitlin and
Speaker 3: I are lighthearted. We both laughed and I thought it
Speaker 3: was I thought you were pretty funny.
Speaker 2: You always are.
Speaker 3: I think that's if for anyone listening to this right now,
Speaker 3: we got to give you a little shout out. Chris
Speaker 3: is one of the You're one of the funnier people
Speaker 3: I've ever met, and your wit is time perfectly like
Speaker 3: the chirp you made yesterday to the guy golf. It's perfect.
Speaker 3: So the timing of that was absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you and Kaylyn had your moment and the wedding
Speaker 1: went great. You guys leave. You did not hook up.
Speaker 1: For the record, no, they did not hook up. But
Speaker 1: much to my chagrin, I thought like because selfishly I
Speaker 1: thought this would be kind of the not the trifect.
Speaker 1: I guess the exacta hitting the home run exact at
Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby. I get married. I'm crushing it in
Speaker 1: my own love life, and then boom, Kaylin and Jason
Speaker 1: hooked up at my wedding, Like what a great story.
Speaker 1: But it was not to be. You guys, you get
Speaker 1: they did not. For all the tabloids out there taking notes,
Speaker 1: they did not hook up. I hate to do this,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna put a pin in this for now.
Speaker 1: We're gonna stop, We're gonna take a break, but this
Speaker 1: conversation will continue. A lot of emotions, a lot more
Speaker 1: to talk about, and I have a lot more questions
Speaker 1: to get to with Jason Tartik. So we'll do it
Speaker 1: in the next episode of The Most Dramatic Podcast Ever.
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