1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the Home Office in Austin, Texas. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: And for the first time ever, I have a guest, 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: obviously not on the show. I've had many guests on 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: the show, but I've never had a guest here in 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Studio A, here in the Home office in Austin, Texas. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: Do you know that I did not know that? This 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: is an honor. 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: This is the first time I've ever had anybody in 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: my home. That's the reason is Studio A is in 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: our home. I'm not just going to have everyone in 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: our house. So here we go. Jason Tartick the first 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: guest ever at the Home Office in Austin, Texas. He 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: was here a month ago for our wedding. It's our 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: one month anniversary. Lauren and I have made it. That's 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: really the big I've heard, that's really the big one 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: to get over is that one month anniversary. 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: Thirty days, thirty days. 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: I got to get to that day. We have crushed 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: the first thirty days. 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Which day was the best. 22 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: But so when Jason came to the wedding, I said, look, 23 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: you and I at some point we got to sit 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: down and we got to talk. We got to do this, 25 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: and we both decided obviously during my wedding not the 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: time to do that, and uh, but we we kind 27 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: of put it on the back burner and it just 28 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: turned out that Jay was coming back into town for 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: this Sergio Garcia four Ties event for kids event that 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: we just did. 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: So we just. 32 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: Happened to be back a month later. Perfect timing. We 33 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: both were talking as he was coming into town and 34 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: we said, it's time, it's time we have a talk. 35 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: So here it is Jason Tartik Chris Harrison. The most 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: dramatic podcast ever find you. You have never felt the 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: wrath of the hot Seat before? 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was an intense start. 39 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: I'm like with jall, we did have a conversation about 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: us having to talk. 41 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: I agree what it was. We'll see. 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: It worked out perfect. This weekend made a couple deals 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: with Chris. I was like, great, I'll come on your 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: show if you come on my show. But I have 45 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: felt a little bit of the intensity of the hot Seat. 46 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: I think the last time you and I were this 47 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: close with microphones in our face, seeing miked up. Well, 48 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: yesterday we had some fun at the Sergio Tournament, but 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: was in two thousand and eighteen when I was in 50 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: the hot seat at Mentel All after Becca Kouprian was 51 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: the batterrip, but they didn't sit us this close to 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: each other. 53 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: We had a little bit more space. 54 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: I was trying to think, you know what's funny when 55 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: I think of you, I don't even remember what season 56 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: you were on. There's certain the rest of the world, no, 57 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: but there's certain seasons are there's certain people where they're 58 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: friends of mine, and actually, like, if I'm going to 59 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: have to go do a show, I'll have to or 60 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: an interview, I will have to go look up like 61 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Wells Adams like stuff like that. I'm like, I just 62 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: know him as a friend now, and you're the same. 63 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, what season were you on? And Becca's season, 64 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: which ironically was when I started dating L's Z. Yeah, 65 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: was becka season. It was her tell All where we 66 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: kind of first had our first rendezvous on our first 67 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: big date and the infamous Cabo trip happened after the 68 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: Final Roads special. But we have never really sat down 69 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: and had this heart to heart, which I'm glad we're 70 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: finally doing. And the overview of this whole thing too. 71 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Your second book is coming out. Yeah, obviously, I'm going 72 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: to reciprocate. I'm going to go on Trading Secrets, Jason's 73 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: amazing podcast. If you're into business, which you should be, 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: I love the way you approach business. I love the 75 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: way you talk about things because you extrapolate things into 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: an everyday bite size, digestible comment, break down whatever. I'm like, oh, 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: I understand this now. So if you're not savvy about business, 78 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: if you're not into it, check out Trading Secrets. 79 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: But the new book, yes, the new book, it connects 80 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: actually to this show, I think. So it's called Talk 81 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: Money to Me. It's available for pre order now on Amazon. 82 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: But the whole idea is, it's like when love meets money, right, 83 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 3: And we have so many hard conversations about just love 84 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: in general and compatibility and all these things, but the 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: idea of money, it's something we neglect. And so that's 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: the main preface of the book. 87 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: Easily the number one thing that breaks up families, marriages, relationships, 88 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: and it's something we never talk about exactly, is money. 89 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: And Lauren and I have had this conversation and we've 90 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: had some other business people on to kind of go 91 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: into this, but it is such a vital It's like 92 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: we talk about kids, do you want to have kids? 93 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: You want to have kids? When do we want to 94 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: have kids? 95 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: Sure? 96 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: Where do we want to live? How About how much 97 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: debt are you bringing into this relationship? And by the way, 98 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean if you have a lot, I'm going 99 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: to break up with you, but if LZ is walking 100 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: into our relationship with a million dollars in debt, I 101 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: need to know that that is massively important. And that's 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: a question that we don't often ask our significant other. 103 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: And then you get into it and you know you're 104 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: your five steps past. You know, you bury the lead 105 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: of this whole thing. 106 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: It's the transparency, in the clarity is what drives a unit, right. 107 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 3: And so it's not that in that circumstance, which was 108 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: a made up hypothetical that Elsie would have a million 109 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: dollars a debt, it's that it wasn't talked about. And 110 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: when it's not talked about, resentment builds. Where resentment builds, 111 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: it breaks relationships, it impacts It's crazy to think that 112 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: financial discussions inspects intimacy in the bedroom. And so the 113 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: whole book is my first two introductions. Now I'm about 114 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: my life right, So I'm an MBA and accounting and finance. 115 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: I own a few businesses. I've leant over one hundred 116 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: and fifty million dollars two businesses. So if I'm making 117 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: mistakes on this, which I've made a lot on which 118 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: I talk about in the book, I assume that a 119 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: lot of people haven't had the conversations. And so it's 120 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: ten chapters, two introductory chapters of things that I screwed up. 121 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: The next eight chapters are questions. So the answers are 122 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: not subjective, they're objective. The answer is a number, and 123 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: it's a number you need to know about yourself and 124 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: your partner. How to have the conversation, how to improve 125 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: that for your well being, into work as a unit, 126 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 3: to increase and build your overall financial wealth and happiness. 127 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: Hugely important. 128 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: Read this. 129 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Get it into your college kids, your high school kids' hands. 130 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: You know the quicker you learn this, and you know 131 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: we'll talk probably much more about this on your podcast. 132 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: But it's it's something I just wasn't taught. And it's 133 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: laughable that we go through high school, even college and 134 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: we don't really learn compound interest. We don't learn about alone. 135 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: What that means about balancing a checkbook. Sure I can 136 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: make an ash tray, but you know, but I can't 137 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: balance a checkbook. How are we not teaching kids? You 138 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: know that I'm not here to poopoo on algebra, But 139 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: let me tell you what I've used more of in 140 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: my life more than algebra. 141 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 142 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: And a basic skills of knowing, investing and managing your 143 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: money is so important totally. 144 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: And I think one thing you see now, especially with 145 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: social media and everything happening in our world, is like 146 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 3: keeping up with the Kardashians, right, like what are you wearing? 147 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: How are you showing your wealth? 148 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: And there's so much actual gas lighting through assets in 149 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: today's world. 150 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: So the idea of like. 151 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: How about you just pull each other's credit report and 152 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: maybe like talk through the successes you've had and your 153 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: credit score and your income and your debt, because that 154 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: shows the truth. Numbers don't lie, they don't take things 155 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: out of context. And then you could have open conversations, 156 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: which was increasing vulnerability, increasing connection, and overall increasing the 157 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: over overall health of a relationship. 158 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: This is a freebie for you for your next book. 159 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Lay it up and It's only a chapter, so it's 160 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: not going to be that expensive, but one of the 161 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: chapters needs to be before you see each other naked, 162 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: see each other's credit score. 163 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: Ooh, I like that line. I do have a line 164 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: in there similar to that. So if we could talk 165 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: openly about sex and have sex with one another, then 166 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: we should be able to talk about our finances and 167 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 3: what we want out of our life. 168 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: If I feel free to say, Hey, I would like 169 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: for you to dress up like a circus clown before 170 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: you come in the bedroom, I think I should also 171 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: say how much student loan debt do you have? I 172 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: know one's a little sexy than the other. Well really, 173 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: the clowns not. But you get the point. 174 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: Is this a thing of yours Chris? 175 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: It is. No. 176 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: We don't like clowns. We don't like clowns. Not one 177 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: of the fantasies. You and I have had a good 178 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: couple of days. We've been here, played a little golf, 179 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: we've had we're sitting on a couple of shiner blondes Texas, 180 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: and maybe had a tequila shot before we came on 181 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: the show. Because we're going to dive into it, We're 182 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: going to talk about the relationships. It's funny, you know, 183 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: because I met you obviously you were on the show, 184 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: and it was rumored and talked about you actually being 185 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: the Bachelor. I'm curious because you know, I know probably 186 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: fifty percent of what's really going on behind the scenes 187 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: because they were very much they love to kind of 188 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: keep their cards close to the vest when they're making 189 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: those decisions about who the bachelor bache Arett's going to 190 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: be sure they would ask me or ask my opinion, 191 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: but you know opinions. How that goes in your mind 192 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: of what you were talked about? How close were you 193 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: to being the Bachelor? 194 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: Did you put in a good word for me? What's that? 195 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: Did you put in a good word for me? 196 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: I've said a million times I wanted you to be 197 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: the Bachelor. There's two people that were in your camp 198 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: I know for sure. Yes, Yeah, the executive producer Bennett 199 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: Oh okay, greater fellow Buffalo boy Buffalo that was in 200 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: the bag, Buffalo Buffalo. Yeah, that was easy. Bennett wanted 201 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: you to be the Bachelor, so did I. 202 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's good to know I had two people 203 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: in my camp. I never truly thought I was going 204 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: to be the Bacheler truly, and I didn't think. 205 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: It because. 206 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: I always thought cold storyline was just incredible and quite frankly. 207 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: We didn't know the real storyline. I did a whole story. 208 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: Right, but I'm like, this guy is six foot four, 209 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 3: looks like Kenda Barbie Doll played in the NFL. He's 210 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: a stud and he's a virgin. Like, okay, wow, that's 211 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: great TV. And then the other thing is I thought 212 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: that Blake was really like Blake's watching him deal with 213 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: his breakdown with Becca was like I was crying for him. 214 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: So I was like, this is a clear third runner, 215 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: like if they both get sick or something. Colin, Jason 216 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: and I asked for a lot of transparency because of 217 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: work with leadership, and I got a lot of transparency 218 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: of like i'd say, like twenty five percent, thirty percent. 219 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: There was one time I think they're like, hey, I 220 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: think odds have jumped up to like sixty percent. So 221 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: there was a lot of transparency there. But at no 222 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: point did I actually think it was going to be me. 223 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how close. Yeah, from my mind, 224 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: I felt that was probably the case. You probably had 225 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: a thirty forty percent chance. We wanted it to be more. 226 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: I just thought you would have been a good everyday guy. 227 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: We could have fixed the hair. At the time, you know, 228 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: there was some tragic Buffalo stuff going on with the hair. 229 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: You know, no offense to Buffalo because I love it 230 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: and I got to get there soon. But the yeah, 231 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: there was a lot of hair gel back then. But 232 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: you've come a long way. I mean the fashion look 233 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: as you sitting here right now, you're such a fashion Easta. 234 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 2: Now. 235 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but I might have to 236 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: take this coat off because it is getting a little hot, 237 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: knowing the topics coming up, so if it comes out that, 238 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: I know, it gets intense. 239 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: But it was something I thought would have been great 240 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: because I really do think you would have been a 241 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: good Bachelor, just because you're such a sincere guy, and 242 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: I think America at the end of the day. Yeah, 243 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: the Colton in a you know, Colton was obviously a 244 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: great season, and could you have jumped that fence? I 245 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,359 Speaker 1: don't think so. So Obviously the Colton season was pretty phenomenal, 246 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: but I think there was a show to be had 247 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: with you, just because America, especially with the Bachelor, resonates 248 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: with relatability and you're just a relatable guy. I think 249 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: people watch you, they listen to you, and you're like, 250 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: I see myself in this guy. He's the kind of 251 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: guy I could date, And so I think it would 252 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: have been a good season. 253 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, two thoughts I have, because you. 254 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: Don't need the Bachelor to be explosive bachelorette more so 255 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: that drama helps bachelor. You really don't need that. I mean, 256 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: look at Sean Lowe. Yeah, not the craziest explosive story. 257 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, and he was one of our most popular bachelors. 258 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't. 259 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: I think if you look at the like talked about 260 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: some of the history of the Bachelor's I don't know 261 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: that you'd call most of those individuals explosive, right, Like no, 262 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: Matt James very even, Keel good guy, Clayton pretty even, 263 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: Keel Nick's a pretty like even keel guy, Ari Ben Higgins, Right, 264 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: I don't think you're talking about these like explosive personalities. 265 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: Two things I have when I think about the time 266 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: of like the selection of the Bachelor, that whole thing. 267 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: I remember I'd get a lot of shit from people 268 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 3: or like Reddit blogs and stuff, and they'd be like, oh, 269 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: he's campaigning so hard to be the Bachelor. And I 270 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: always thought about that, and I was like, oh, maybe 271 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: I should have acted like I didn't want it. But no, 272 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: like the reality is like that's wasn't It wasn't a campaign. 273 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: I just wanted to be the Bachelor. 274 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 3: I got it, Like who everybody wants to be the Bacher. 275 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: So I guess maybe there's like you should have played 276 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: it more cool. 277 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: No, it's And by the way, what are you doing 278 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: on Reddit? 279 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: All those blogs get sent, they get sent. You don't 280 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: get the dms where they send you the links? No, 281 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: okay they do. 282 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: Oh god. 283 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: The other thing is I would say, god, I don't. 284 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: I would say back then, I would have been like, 285 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm such a different person than I was back then. 286 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: So you know, things change. It's time for me to 287 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: like put my head back into that space. It was 288 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, it's about to be twenty twenty four. In 289 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: that wild it's I just don't know, like where time goes, 290 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: because it seems like a whole different life ago, you. 291 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: Know, I mean, when you're five six years removed, it 292 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: just seems we were all, you know, so much more innocent, different. 293 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I think about when I started the show. 294 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: I moved here in ninety nine to la and you know, 295 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: jumped on The Bachelor and two and is when it aired, 296 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: and then I stayed there for twenty years. Yeah, I mean, 297 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: who does that? It just doesn't happen in this business. 298 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: And so when I think about the kid that started 299 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: and the man that left, you know, I've been married, divorced, 300 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: to kids, kids in college. I mean, life has changed 301 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: quite a bit. 302 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: It's hard to put yourself back. 303 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: And that's not even technologically speaking. How the world has 304 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: changed and dating and all that. Yeah, you can't go 305 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: back and look at that kid, that innocent kid that 306 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: came from Buffalo and just hey night one. Yeah, I 307 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: hope you like me. 308 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: Now he's a jaded ex reality TV, broken down brus Cloud. 309 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: So you get done with the show and then famously 310 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: you start dating Caitlin Bristow. What precipitated that. I forget 311 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: how that whole thing started. 312 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: The heart rates instantly went up. 313 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: Chris just got hotter in this room. 314 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: I was the whole the whole thing was. 315 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, I met her on her podcast because my 316 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: understanding is she wanted me to be the Bachelor and 317 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: then when they picked Colton, she was like, well, we 318 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: got to jump on a show because like I really 319 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: wanted you to be the bachelor. 320 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Three people in your corner there caitle too, so she 321 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: was like, let's maybe the only person that had less 322 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: poll than me on the. 323 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: Show was fair. 324 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: So she wanted to just be like, well, what's next. 325 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: And so that's when I interviewed with her. But the 326 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: first time I ever messaged Caitlyn, ironically enough, was I 327 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: had gotten off the show and I had learned just 328 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: about the whole ins and outs of this world and 329 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: how kind of crazy it was, and you know, when 330 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: you get off, you step into this mayhem and I always, 331 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: you know, I didn't know what the hell to do about, 332 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: like how to deal with it because a lot of 333 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: like agents come up to you and all this stuff, right, 334 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: And I I started to research like people that were 335 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: on the show that had done a really good job, 336 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: and I reached out to all those people that had 337 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: done and be like, hey, just got the show a 338 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: little confused as to how this world works. Do you 339 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: have any insight. She was one of the people that 340 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: I reached out too, and she was great. She had 341 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: she like gave me great insight, and that was it. 342 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: And then she asked me to come on the show 343 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: and I'm a podcast with her in late October, and. 344 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: That's where the sparks flew. 345 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: That's where the sparks look. 346 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I did. I actually didn't tell. 347 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: Me, at least I don't think for her. I remember 348 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: when I first hugged her, I was like, oh. 349 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: That's interesting. I didn't know that story. I didn't know 350 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: where you guys actually started dating or whatever. So it 351 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: was on the it. 352 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: Was it was yeah, it was well, we didn't know. 353 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: She interviewed me on the show. I remember the sparks 354 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: flew when I remember giving her a hug, and there's 355 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: just a lot of banter, and she reminded me a 356 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: lot of like people back home, and I was like, oh, 357 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: this girl's awesome. Then a friendship established. She put me 358 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: in the friend zone for a little bit, and then 359 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: we dated shortly thereafter a few months or so. 360 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: I really appre So here's what's interesting about the two 361 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: of you. Obviously I've been involved or you know, somewhat 362 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: in touch or connected to a hundred breakups on the show. 363 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: Because you know, I'm either friends with or have worked 364 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: with someone in that relationship. I was thinking about this 365 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: earlier before you and I came on today. I've never 366 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: been so intertwined with a relationship and a breakup as 367 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: I have been with you and Caitlin, because I guess 368 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: I've never been as close with both people, and consider 369 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: both of you friends, still talk to both of you. 370 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: I invited both of you to our wedding. You guys 371 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: both graciously showed up at our wedding. So I was 372 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: just thinking, you know, usually there's a breakup and I'm 373 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: friends with the bachelor, or I'm friends with the bachelorette. 374 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm not usually as close with the cast member that 375 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: they got engaged with. So it's funny that I'm even 376 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: sitting here with you, you know, not the bachelorette. And 377 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: so it just goes to show like I'm good friends 378 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: with both of you guys, and I've never I don't 379 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: think I've ever been as involved or connected to a 380 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: breakup as this one. And you know, Lauren and I 381 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: both said we're inviting both of you guys to our wedding. 382 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: There is no question that both of you guys are invited. 383 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: We're going to just hit the ball over to their court, 384 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: and it's totally up to you, guys. If one of 385 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: you come, if both of you come, if none of 386 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: you come. It was totally up to you, guys. And 387 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: I really appreciated the fact that you both came. You 388 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: both like put your swords down whatever. I don't know 389 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: where it stood at the time. I don't care what 390 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: it meant. What meant the most to me was that 391 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: you both said, we love you guys, We're going to 392 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: support you, We're going to beat your wedding. 393 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was nothing more important. I mean, we 394 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: have again, Chris, you and I have known each other 395 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: now since twenty eighteen. I think from the get go. 396 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: I remember us talking about soccer, and we just developed 397 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: a good friendship. And Bennett, of course and I had 398 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: good friendship back then, and year over year that friendships progressed. 399 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: And for me, there was nothing more important than being there, 400 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: because it was to honor your day. It was to 401 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: honor your celebration of love, your journey, your trials and 402 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: tribulations to the happiness that you've finally got and to 403 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: see you that happy and Lauren that happy. 404 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 2: I would have kicked myself in the head, lived and regret. 405 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: If I didn't go because of a prior relationship that 406 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 3: didn't work out. 407 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: Especially because it turned out to be such a kick 408 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: ass party. 409 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: There was a kick ass party, and the best part 410 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: was is that I think if you look at that 411 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 3: group of bachelorettes and bachelor's and former contestants that were 412 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: at your wedding, there are a lot of tangled webs. 413 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: There are a lot of tangled leaves. 414 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: There was definitely drama in the past with a lot 415 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: of them, and there still is current drama with some 416 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: of them. But every single person there me included, every 417 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: single person there made it about you two, and it 418 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: was literally it was such a beautiful day. 419 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: We talked about you. We had the Friday night event 420 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: that it was LZ's idea to have everybody over here 421 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: to kind of break the ice and so we could all, 422 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, in the safe confines of this house, see 423 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: each other talk, let the weirdness kind of leave the room. 424 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: So then when we all get together on Saturday for 425 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: the wedding, we're ready to go. And obviously one of 426 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: the awkward moments was going to be you and Caitlin, 427 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: and I was thinking to myself, I'm glad they're both here. 428 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm grateful and it's going to be fine. But yeah, 429 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: there's going to be that moment when they first see 430 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: each other. But you guys actually saw each other at 431 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: the hotel before you came here, just total happenstance that 432 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: you she they walked into the bar you were sitting at, right. 433 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a lot of irony, and 434 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: like the universe works in weird ways. 435 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: You guys gave us three hotel rooms to stay at. Yeah, okay. 436 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: I had booked a room for Caitlin and I had 437 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 3: the minute we got the original invite, which is quite 438 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: some time. 439 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: When you were still together. 440 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: So we had talked about like, hey, what do you 441 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: want to do with this? Do you want to take 442 00:20:59,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: it off? 443 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: Take it? 444 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: And so she was like I'll stay with trist I 445 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: was like, okay, I'll take it. So I didn't read 446 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: that room was at the Omni, but we could have 447 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: booked at three rooms, three hotels and wells and every 448 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: I was like, all right, well' where are you gonna be. 449 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: Let's meet up. 450 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: Then we're gonna be, Bob, We're gonna be We're all 451 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: really good friends. And they were all at the other 452 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: hotels like okay, so I was at this hotel by myself. 453 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: So I'm getting ready. I'm like, I'll have a drink 454 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 3: before Chris's party. And I go down to the I 455 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 3: go down to the bar. I looked to my left 456 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: and I see I see three very good looking women 457 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: like get up and walk down, and I'm like, who 458 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: was that? I was like, okay, I couldn't tell. But 459 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: then I went, it's funny. 460 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: I went. 461 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: I kind of did a circle and I sat down, 462 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: and then I did another look and I was like, 463 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: oh shit, that's Kateland and some of the others. And 464 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: I was like, what do I do here? And Caitlyn 465 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 3: broke the ice. She texted me and goes, hey, can 466 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 3: you tell the bartender to hurry up? Like we put 467 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: the order in twenty minutes ago. I was like, I 468 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 3: thought that was here, but I didn't have time to 469 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: say hello because you guys ran so quick. 470 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: Sprinted out of the bar printed. 471 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: I was like, what are we doing? 472 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: You know we're going to be together in thirty minutes. 473 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, what did y'all share a car over here? 474 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: No? I offered that. I said, okay, now that we 475 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 3: broke the ice. I'm gonna get an Uber Excel. If 476 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 3: anybody in your group wants to come, you know, come 477 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: on join. And uh, they were like, oh, we're good. 478 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: We actually already ordered the Uber. So I came solo 479 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: and I was the first one. I was twenty minute, 480 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: twenty five minutes late. 481 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: Here's what I appreciate. Yeah, yeah, I mean I would 482 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: say you were on time. Good, that's fashionably late, you know, 483 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five minutes. The funny thing is Laura and 484 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: I were sitting here and you know the time, say 485 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: it's five thirty. I forget when the party was supposed 486 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: to start, but it was sometime, you know, late afternoon evening, 487 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: and nobody's here. I'm thinking, you know, maybe nobody shows up. 488 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't know who's in town. I don't know who 489 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: came to our wedding. Like maybe you know they nobody's here. 490 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: It's like a super Bowl party or a birthday party 491 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: and nobody shows up your birthday. Yeah, yeah, it was uh. 492 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: And then like twenty five minutes later, one car pulls 493 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: up and it's Jay. So Jason comes in and he 494 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: was like, hey, thanks for showing up. You're it man, 495 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a real crap load of chakouterie to 496 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: eat and a bunch of wine. But then everybody started 497 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: filing in behind you. I think thirty minutes was kind 498 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: of the go to. Mark be thirty minutes late was 499 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: the go to. 500 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there's a lot of people just coming in 501 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: by the minute, but I was the first one here. 502 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this is gonna be a good time. 503 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: Let's let's get after it here. 504 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: So Caitlyn showed up, and I think everybody was kind 505 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: of just keeping that eye out, you know, like as 506 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: voyeurs and just as you know, people that are tied 507 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: to this franchise, we all we all knew the score. 508 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: We all knew that they just broke up. So we're like, 509 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on the vibe in the room, 510 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: and are they gonna talk and are they gonna hug? 511 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: And I was really pleasantly surprised to see you guys 512 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: gave each other a big hug, you talked, y'all are smiling, laughing, 513 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: and everybody just dove in and it was like you said, 514 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of baggage in that room because it's 515 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: one big and we've all dated, we've all they've been 516 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: engaged and broken up and all this stuff, and so, yeah, 517 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of baggage in that room, and there 518 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: was a lot of drama, but everyone left it at 519 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: the door and everyone had a great time, which I appreciated. 520 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think in a lot of this world 521 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 3: there's always so much noise. Well, you're dealing with your 522 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: own internal battles with whoever it may be or what 523 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: may have been and what is and that's a general statement, 524 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 3: and then there's other people that had so much noise 525 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 3: because there's always so much like gossip behind the scenes 526 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: and then outside noise. And I think one of the 527 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 3: biggest takeaways I always think about is it can be 528 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: just so productive to sit across from the person you 529 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: might have dilemmas quarrels with and just like talk it 530 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: out right. And I think a lot of the people 531 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: there that I think a lot in general everyone got 532 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: along really well, but people that may have had past 533 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: experiences or whatever just saw each other eye to eye 534 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: and it was it was a moment of like happiness. 535 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 3: Everyone's there to celebrate you guys. And I thought that 536 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: was just like a beautiful night. It was I really 537 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: think it was a beautiful night of people like reconnecting 538 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: and smiling and celebrating, and it was awesome. 539 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: It was a lot more emotional than I thought it 540 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: was going to be. I wasn't expecting to be like 541 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: hit so hard by just seeing the faces that I 542 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: saw and feeling the love that I felt, and just 543 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: how casual it was and how just I don't know. 544 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: I was talking actually to the Lady Gang and Kelty 545 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: Knight and I were chatting about this, and I said, 546 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of the goodbye that I 547 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: guess I never had with all of you, you know, 548 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: getting everybody together, and I'm kind of that connective tissue 549 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: that will bring that crew together again. Maybe it's the 550 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: last time all those people kind of get together again, 551 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: from Trista to Tasha, you know that my run of shows, 552 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: and so it was kind of cool to just get 553 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: everyone together in that in that sense. 554 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's interesting is I felt like such 555 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: a high Friday. And I'm sure some of this is 556 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: connected to my personal stuff, but I felt like such 557 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: a high Friday, and Saturday or wedding Sunday, I felt 558 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: like so down and out. 559 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: I was like a little sad. 560 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: I was like, it was so it was such a 561 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: like the show's over. 562 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I didn't see Like, I don't know, there's 563 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: so many people that I hadn't seen so long. In 564 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: the conversations, I'm like, I think one of the things 565 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: is like, well, probably that group of people will probably 566 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: never as long as we live, like all be in 567 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 3: the same room having some of the conversations and laughs. 568 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: We did, and there was something that was like really 569 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: fulfilling getting all. 570 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: The wives together, you know, our significant others were all there, 571 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: and I was like, I agree, I was I didn't 572 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: really think of it alone. Actually who unfortunately couldn't be there. 573 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: He and uh and Molly came in the next day 574 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 1: and so they he was working on production and they 575 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: were trying so hard. So he came for the wedding. 576 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: He just couldn't make it. In one of our former 577 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: executive users and he said the same thing where he's 578 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: like this is that was a special group that was 579 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: together in such an emotional night of I don't know, 580 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: there was just a lot of love of everyone. I 581 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: think everybody just was almost like we all needed it. 582 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: We all just kind of needed there was because there's 583 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: whether it's surrounding the franchise itself, surrounding each other, whatever 584 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: the controversy and so many things that have been said 585 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: and done, but very few people actually know the intimacy 586 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: and the love and the respect and friendships we have within. 587 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: And you know, it gets exploited a lot and gets 588 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: talked about a lot, but it's not truly seen for. 589 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: What it is. 590 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: And I think in that room that night, we all 591 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: just kind of were able to take a deep breath, 592 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: and we weren't on camera, we weren't on microphones. Everyone 593 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: could just relax. 594 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a bunch of us said, it's 595 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: a testament to you and Lauren, because everyone there, especially 596 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: for those two days, brought such positive, kind energy, and 597 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 3: a lot of us were like, it's just a testament 598 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: to Chris and Lauren, like they surround themselves. Think about 599 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: all the hundreds of people you've come across in the 600 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: days of doing this. You guys, clearly surround yourself with 601 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: people that provide good energy and fulfill you guys, and 602 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 3: fulfill a room. And that's how your wedding felt, That's 603 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 3: how the Friday night before felt, and it was it 604 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: was special. 605 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: We appreciated it and thank you for that. We loved 606 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: every second of it, and I got it. I was 607 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: actually I had a little fomo because you know, obviously 608 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: it was our wedding night, and so you guys took 609 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: off and all went out and Laura and I had 610 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: a couple more stops to make that night for her 611 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: family and some other friends. So we had to go 612 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: to another event after everyone left our house, and you 613 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: guys all went out downtown, and I was, I kind 614 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: of had fomo. I'm like, there, this is this party 615 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: in this love fest is going to continue, and I'm 616 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: not going to be a part of it. I'm not 617 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: going to hear that. I'm not going to know you 618 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: know these stories until tomorrow of what was said, what 619 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: was done? Was it awkward When I came up to 620 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: you and Caitlin when you all were talking by my fridge, 621 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: and I asked if y'all were going to hook up? 622 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: I'm dying right now. I thought it was funny. I 623 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: thought you were you were funny. 624 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: Chris is just it was all right, here's here it goes. 625 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: The conversation it was we were just the funny part 626 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: is is like we it was like the first words 627 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: we had said to each other in three months. Like 628 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: two minutes into it, here cubs Chris, So, you guys 629 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: gonna hook up tonight? And I think I think your 630 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: line was trust me breakup. Sex is amazing and I'm 631 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: like Jesus, it's. 632 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: Not healthy most of the time. It's very dysfunctional, but 633 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: it could be great. 634 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: They're unbelievable, and I think in general both Caitlin and 635 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: I are lighthearted. We both laughed and I thought it 636 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: was I thought you were pretty funny. 637 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: You always are. 638 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: I think that's if for anyone listening to this right now, 639 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: we got to give you a little shout out. Chris 640 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: is one of the You're one of the funnier people 641 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 3: I've ever met, and your wit is time perfectly like 642 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: the chirp you made yesterday to the guy golf. It's perfect. 643 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: So the timing of that was absolutely hilarious. 644 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you and Kaylyn had your moment and the wedding 645 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: went great. You guys leave. You did not hook up. 646 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: For the record, no, they did not hook up. But 647 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: much to my chagrin, I thought like because selfishly I 648 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: thought this would be kind of the not the trifect. 649 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: I guess the exacta hitting the home run exact at 650 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby. I get married. I'm crushing it in 651 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: my own love life, and then boom, Kaylin and Jason 652 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: hooked up at my wedding, Like what a great story. 653 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: But it was not to be. You guys, you get 654 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: they did not. For all the tabloids out there taking notes, 655 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: they did not hook up. I hate to do this, 656 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna put a pin in this for now. 657 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna stop, We're gonna take a break, but this 658 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: conversation will continue. A lot of emotions, a lot more 659 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: to talk about, and I have a lot more questions 660 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: to get to with Jason Tartik. So we'll do it 661 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: in the next episode of The Most Dramatic Podcast Ever. 662 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at the Most 663 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: Dramatic Pod Ever, and make sure to write us a 664 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: review and leave us five stars. I'll talk to you 665 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: next time.