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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're all just trying to

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Speaker 1: keep a few feet away.

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Speaker 2: From Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: We're in the Chris Wesley podcast studio. I'm Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: here with Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic, my friend.

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Speaker 2: And Colleen Wolf. Connie Fox back in the studio.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Hi guy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I just said moments ago I asked if

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Speaker 4: it was really hot in here.

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Speaker 3: It feels extremely hot. Maybe I'm having a hot flash.

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Speaker 4: Who knows what's going on, But you guys clearly feel

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Speaker 4: like it's totally.

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Speaker 3: Normal and fine.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm about to break out in a sweat,

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Speaker 4: and I think maybe I actually already have.

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Speaker 1: And your voice is a little husky, which I like

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Speaker 1: for the podcast.

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Speaker 2: But it's thanks Greg.

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Speaker 4: It might be well, No, my asthma husband really bothering me,

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Speaker 4: and I forgot my inhaler at one of my other jobs.

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Speaker 4: So I haven't had it.

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Speaker 2: One of your other jobs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I only have two jobs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell us about it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Women's Sports Now on Roku every Thursday.

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Speaker 2: That was a good way to do a plug.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll just get going then to get

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Speaker 1: you out of here as quickly as possible. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: hit every single AFC team today, Jordan, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you the listeners what each team's secret weapons are.

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Speaker 5: Secret web.

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Speaker 3: That's a fun, fun idea. I love it.

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Speaker 1: So we will put two minutes on the clock, We'll

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Speaker 1: hit two divisions, take a break. Maybe we'll hear a

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Speaker 1: little bit about Connie's trip to the forest for the

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Speaker 1: first time. Maybe after the break we'll hear a little

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Speaker 1: bit about Jordan's got a big feature that dropped today

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic.

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Speaker 2: So I want to hear a little bit about that.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with the AFC West, because we always

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Speaker 1: start with the East.

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Speaker 2: It's like East Coast bias.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna go from the bottom of the

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Speaker 1: start with my Las Vegas Raiders. Put two minutes on

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Speaker 1: the clock, and I was trying to think about a

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Speaker 1: secret weapon here, and I thought that Chip Kelly's personal

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Speaker 1: hear from you who experienced the Chip Kelly era Connie

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Speaker 1: he had one idea of how he was going to

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Speaker 1: he's found a way to adapt that. I was listening

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Speaker 1: to him at the podium. He's in his sixties now.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gotten a little older, a little wiser.

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Speaker 1: I think he likes not being the head coach and

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Speaker 1: he talked about, well, you can't just have an offense.

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Speaker 2: You have to make it work around the players that

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Speaker 1: So we've seen him be run heavy, we've seen him

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Speaker 1: be pass heavy, We've seen him do all sorts of things.

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Speaker 1: I think he loves Geno and so I think he's

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Speaker 2: And that started well beat.

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Speaker 4: That makes me so happy for Gino first of all,

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Speaker 4: and this coaching staff in general. First of all, they

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Speaker 4: I was in Philadelphia when he came to the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: Team secret weapons. He's getting older. Next up, we are

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Speaker 1: going to talk Jordan about your Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 5: My Los Angeles charge Yeah, you know what, I think

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Speaker 5: that their secret weapon is keeping Jesse Mintor for another year. Now.

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Speaker 5: I know that's not like a shocking thing that they

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Speaker 1: What before the shows starts, so we checked it out.

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Speaker 1: And he just looks like a very normal looking guy

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Speaker 1: I didn't Bret like he looked like Brandon Staley too,

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Speaker 5: People, kind of an average looking at or like a

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Speaker 5: Greg Rosenthal who said claims he looks like a lot

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Speaker 1: I guess that I think I look I'm just like

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Speaker 5: You know what. It's ironic that we're going in this

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Speaker 5: same time defensive coordinator. I really like the way that

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Speaker 5: thinks about staying multiple while keeping certain core principles and

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Speaker 5: fundamentals in place. There was some chatter and whispers already

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Speaker 5: starting through certain coaching circles that maybe he's going to

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Speaker 5: be a head coaching candidate in these next cycles, so

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Speaker 5: I think having continuity in the short term is really important.

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Speaker 5: This is a guy who plays with light boxes yet

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Speaker 5: still knows how to teach defense to stop the run,

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Speaker 5: almost leading the league in light box rate last year.

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Speaker 5: This is a guy who has move players all over

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Speaker 5: the defensive backfield. Derwin James was a master chess piece

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Speaker 5: last year for him and seemed to have a lot

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Speaker 5: fundamentally sound football being played under Jesse Minter, who, like

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Speaker 5: and I think he's a Charger secret weapon.

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Speaker 1: Think how many times a guy landed in with the

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Speaker 1: Tart was an example. A couple guys who got paid elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: Dean Henley like a rookie player or a second year

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Speaker 2: These rookie like late.

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Speaker 1: Round picks at cornerback did incredible and Jim Harbough weirdly

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Speaker 5: That's why he's a secret weapon.

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Speaker 1: Even Khalil mack like looked a little better when they arrived.

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Speaker 1: All right, you got the chiefs, Colleen.

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Speaker 4: Okay, secret weapon gassing up free agent wide receivers, like

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Speaker 4: just getting every last drop out of these wide receivers

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Speaker 4: that they bring in every single year. Like listen, I

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Speaker 4: love the way that they use their tight ends. I

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Speaker 4: love Andy Reid off of a Bye. It's like the

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Speaker 4: best cliche ever in terms of secret weapons. They always

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Speaker 4: find rookies to fill in these massive holes that they

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Speaker 3: They always do such a good job with that.

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Speaker 4: However, when they bring in these free agent wide receivers

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Speaker 4: to fit what they're doing, they're still able to make

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Speaker 4: Kadarius Tony went on, and this guy isn't even on

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Speaker 4: its team right now. So it's what they're able to

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Speaker 1: Right like thinking about Hollywood Brown as a Kansas City chief.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, Like, I'm excited about that and just assume

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Speaker 1: it will work. If he was on a different team,

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Speaker 1: they're developing some young players too, like even Sprinkling and

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Speaker 2: As like just like your fifth guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's interesting the floor is so high there

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Speaker 5: in their passing game. They already have such a foundation

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Speaker 5: anytime they bring someone in, it can be somebody who underperformed.

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Speaker 5: It could be somebody who's brought it in the middle

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Speaker 3: Have a job.

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Speaker 5: You know that they're going to probably get the ball

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Speaker 1: Worthy Hollywood Brown RACI Ris have the highest ceiling that

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Speaker 1: they've had since it was you know, Tyreek Hill and

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Speaker 3: Kind of needs it, like, yeah, he does, he had.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been as good the last two years as

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Speaker 1: he was the rest of his career.

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Speaker 5: Well and then hasn't been protected.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, there was reasons for it, but he hasn't

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Speaker 1: been as good, partly because of the weapons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Keienan Allen, has he signed anywhere yet?

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Speaker 3: That' oh I would love that. Oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: The reporting I believe or some buzz was he was

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Speaker 1: really trying to latch onto one of the ALA teams,

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Speaker 1: wanted to live back in la and hasn't been able to.

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Speaker 5: Also, it is hot in here, by the way, you're correct,

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Speaker 5: it's pretty hot.

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Speaker 2: But you were like every die show out.

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Speaker 5: It struck me right in the middle of that last

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Speaker 5: segment where I was.

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Speaker 3: Like, it's hot, right, Oh, it's going to come over

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 2: Greg next the lights that bright can you handle him?

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Speaker 1: Let's go with the Denver Broncos and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: talk about their interior offensive line is the secret weapon

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Speaker 1: to this whole team. Zach Allen was one of the

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Speaker 1: best defensive linemen in the entire NFL. Last year, he

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Speaker 1: had forty four combined QB hits and quarterback sacks, and

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Speaker 1: interior defensive line, so he was like one of the

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Speaker 1: other guys who aren't as famous, Jonathan Franklin Myers had

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Speaker 1: a lot of production last year eight sacks, nine quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: You know, defense player of the're Bonito Nick Benito got

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, the secret I'm all over the place on

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Speaker 4: I think cam is in the perfect position. First of all,

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Speaker 3: That's like the main thing that it talked about.

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Speaker 4: But when was last time a number one overall pick

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Speaker 4: This is kind of great for him because now he

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Speaker 1: Like it's gravy. They're expected to be the worst team

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Speaker 2: It's very Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 5: But it's dangerous in a controlled like I can see

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Speaker 2: No, he did not give off like I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel I feel a little bad for Levis.

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Speaker 1: I've watched some of his interviews this offseason. He's handling

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Speaker 4: So it's like to have all this happen, he'll be

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Speaker 5: He'll be fine. And I love the fit with Brian Callahan.

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Speaker 5: but like he's just he's very chill when you kind

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Speaker 2: Go off, Colleen. You have the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: Okay, for the Jags, their secret weapon is big wide

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Speaker 3: That's what they have there.

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Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior was their shining star and now they

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Speaker 1: Hey, just like the quantity so many wide receivers, Like.

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Speaker 4: They have more wide receivers than I have hair extensions

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Speaker 4: and that is so many.

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Speaker 3: That is a lot.

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Speaker 1: WASH's probably gonna beyond the team, you know who they have.

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Speaker 5: Big stary last year spetional teams returner. Probably I would think, yes.

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Speaker 4: nice that they're going to have few to choose from. Plus,

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Speaker 1: There's an incredible clip of Travis Hunter making the best

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Speaker 5: Also GM Jimmy Stones was a receiver in college, so

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Speaker 1: I at first was going to be like, is their

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Speaker 4: Bit of a vanilla franchise some pop like it's it's

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Speaker 4: not even like a wide receiver corps. Just it's like

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Speaker 1: You have a quarterback as Chill and it seems like

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Speaker 2: Receiver energy to get That's right, Greg, get the party jumping.

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Speaker 1: I am going to talk about Colleen's Indianapolis Cors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, just Colleen Wolf's undying love that

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Speaker 1: I looked at the receiver group. This is what everyone wants.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this was averaged twenty two point three

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Speaker 5: Why do you think it was so quiet because he

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Speaker 1: The Colts, but like that's a number out of nineteen

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that was gonna be my next point details.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we'll get the baby steps, all right, that's.

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Speaker 2: Like what you that's what you want, all these different types.

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Speaker 5: This will be the years they're going to figure it out.

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Speaker 5: was like, oh, no, did I step on?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I just sort of I was thinking

444
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 1: the whiteout group. But he offers another very different skill

445
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 1: set to that. So it's just like, if you can

446
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: just get solid play. I hate the feeling that that

447
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 1: they really want Daniel Jones to win this job, and

448
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,359
Speaker 1: I just have this feeling that Dana Jones is the

449
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 1: favorite for it.

450
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 2: I just don't want that. I want I want Richardson

451
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 2: to be the guy.

452
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 3: Maybe this is what Richardson needs.

453
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 2: Maybe Jordan, let's do the Houston Texans.

454
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 5: Okay, let me preface this by saying this was actually

455
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 5: kind of hard to pick because some of their weapons

456
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 5: are some of the ways that they've gone about trying

457
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 5: to fix this team from last year as they sputtered

458
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 5: out near the end and had issues with their offensive

459
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 5: line and with pressure. They fixed a lot of those things,

460
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 5: or they're trying to. So it's hardly a secret this

461
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 5: defense will continue to be among the best in the league,

462
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 5: among the most well coached in the league. That's even

463
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 5: with the retirement of a depth corner Ronald Darby, a

464
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 5: former second round pick of the Buffalo Bills played about

465
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 5: ten years in the NFL. Wish him Happy Trails. They

466
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 5: also went in the draft at corner, at position, corner, flexibility, corner,

467
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 5: so they should be okay depth wise there. They had

468
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 5: some injuries last year, so that shouldn't be as big

469
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 5: of a factor, but I think and then the offensive

470
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 5: line was obviously the biggest one of the biggest issues

471
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 5: that they had, especially.

472
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Speaker 3: In pass pro.

473
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Speaker 5: They basically brought in, whether it's Vet Urans or draft picks,

474
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 5: they brought in like eight or nine guys who are

475
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 5: going to compete for that those spots. So over time,

476
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 5: and certainly before C. J. Stroud's next his contract extension

477
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 5: is due, they should figure out at least the majority

478
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 5: of continuity on that line. Where I think, and I'm

479
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,959
Speaker 5: going to take this time because you guys can give

480
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 5: me Jesse Minter okay, doubling up on the Ohios excuse

481
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 5: me on the Iowa State receivers Jalen Knowle and Jayden

482
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 5: Higgins to me is the secret weapon. Tank Dell's recovery

483
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 5: timeline is extensive and it's going to be really grueling

484
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 5: for him to get back on the field. And I

485
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 5: think you really like we're talking about. You need to

486
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 5: build a layered and balanced receivers room for c J. Stroud,

487
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 5: who doesn't just need offensive linemen in the context of help,

488
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 5: he also needs people to get the ball to outlets,

489
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 5: a complimentary set of receivers that can go all around,

490
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 5: basically satellite orbit around Nico Collins. Christian Kirk is going

491
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 5: to be in the mix there as well. He's impressed

492
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 5: Ota as although c J. Stroud is not the one

493
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 5: throwing it. So I think getting those two guys, they're

494
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 5: basically doing what the Rams did. Ni Kaylee was with

495
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 5: the Rams. They're basically doing what the Rams did last

496
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 5: year getting teammates, so you skip the chemistry building part

497
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 5: and you go right into building the offense in totality part.

498
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 5: They're trying to skip some steps here because they know

499
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Speaker 5: they're very close to being a contending team.

500
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Speaker 4: Wow.

501
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 5: Sorry, that was a real rant.

502
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 3: That was incredible.

503
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: You took that time and you ran with it. Yeah.

504
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: They turned a potential big weakness despite Nego Collins being

505
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: there this offseason, and turned it into a potential strength.

506
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they took.

507
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: Swings now, so it usually works like they should be

508
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: happy if two out of those three pickups work between

509
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: Kirk and the two rookies. If two out of the

510
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: three of those work, then they're in like amazing position.

511
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: But I like that they really doubled up. Let's take

512
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,959
Speaker 1: a quick break. We still have two divisions to go

513
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: with the secret weapon, and we'll be back to hear

514
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: a little bit about Colleen lost in the forest.

515
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Speaker 2: Back at NFL Daily. Colleen, you haven't been here in

516
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: a few weeks.

517
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 3: I know I've missed you guys. Last week I still

518
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: work here.

519
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: You were up. But Big Sir, I where I went

520
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: at my honeymoon.

521
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, It's such a magical places, incredible.

522
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I'm always happy to go back there.

523
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: That not that I've been back there much. How was camping?

524
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: Was that the first time you've ever been camping?

525
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: Ever?

526
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 4: I've never been camping my whole life. I've always wanted

527
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 4: to go. This was so exciting because also I had

528
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 4: never been to Big sur and to kind of going

529
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 4: into the camping trip, I decided that a quick weekend

530
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 4: in Palm Springs would be a perfect way then to

531
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Speaker 4: immediately come back from Palm Springs and go straight to Big.

532
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Speaker 2: Sirs and Yang.

533
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, but it was so awesome. We there was

534
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 4: like dispersed camping, which I did not know was a thing,

535
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 4: and we had a camper and we drove up this

536
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 4: mountain on this dirt road like thirty five minutes or

537
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 4: so forty minutes and got to this spot where it

538
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 4: was like three hundred and sixty degree views of everything

539
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 4: out there, so you had green hills over one side

540
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 4: and then the ocean and cliffs on another. And Chema,

541
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 4: my dog, she came and she had a great time.

542
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 4: She had her first war experience.

543
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: She drove.

544
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 4: She has her license now, she getting so big. But

545
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: she didn't know what water was. I hadn't taken her

546
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 4: in the ocean yet, and she's a baby, so the

547
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 4: only like water she knows is getting baths, so she

548
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 4: kept trying to bite the water as she was in it.

549
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Speaker 3: It was very cute, but yeah, it was super fun.

550
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 4: I loved it. Camping guys, big Sir is ridiculous. It's

551
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: so much prettier than I even could have imagined.

552
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 5: Gorgeous.

553
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is incredible if you're a big, big surfan

554
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: like Henry Miller was the library. Yes, it's one of

555
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: my wife's favorite writers. You know, he has a lot

556
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: of big sur writing, and that's where he did all

557
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: his writing, but a lot of like nature writing.

558
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: That was part of the reason we went up there.

559
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: The other part was like, you know, she couldn't leave

560
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: the country as a you know, permanent resident or whatever

561
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: at the time, so we had to do We just like,

562
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: let's go somewhere you can drive. Big Sur is Yeah,

563
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 1: freaking and incredible.

564
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: It's just right there.

565
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Speaker 1: Before we get back to the divisions, I did want

566
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Speaker 1: to mention an item of news that happened right as

567
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: we finished taping on Monday, which is going to impact

568
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season and my early favorites to

569
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: be the NFC champion.

570
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 2: Sorry calling the Detroit Lions.

571
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't feel quite as good about the Lions after

572
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: learning that Frank rag Now is retiring. He was their

573
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: longtime center and some of the numbers Jordan like when

574
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: he's on the field and not on the field are

575
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: are pretty outrageous in terms of how much better they

576
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: have been, especially running the ball.

577
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, had tipped to eight Tice who dug these up

578
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 5: so that I did not have to. But since twenty

579
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 5: twenty two with Ragnow on the field, the Lions offense

580
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 5: is third and success rate and tied for first in

581
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 5: EPA per play. Without him on the field, they are

582
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 5: twenty third in success rate and twelfth in EPA pri

583
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 5: So quite the dip in offensive production between him being

584
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 5: on the field and off the field. At one point,

585
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 5: he played through a fractured throat.

586
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: I was just reading that, and that's so insane.

587
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: He he came back from a torn pectora last year

588
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: in like a matter of weeks.

589
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, outrageous.

590
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 5: It just he embodies like the I think passion, physicality,

591
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 5: heart for a team and four teammate, but also the

592
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 5: deep brutality of this game. And I just think that,

593
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 5: you know, such a lot of respect to him from

594
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 5: people across the league and then from people who played

595
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 5: with them, and but you also comes tinged with that

596
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 5: sort of sadness of he's not feeling good, so he's

597
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 5: decided to step away.

598
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

599
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Speaker 1: He essentially said in the statement that he thought his

600
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: body he was hoping it would bounce back, and just

601
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: he just doesn't feel good about it, and he's played

602
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: through absolutely everything.

603
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: The type of player in.

604
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: Person, I think that's either gonna give you too much,

605
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: give you everything and then more until it's out. And yeah,

606
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: the age it kind of reminded me of you know,

607
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: when Andrew Luck stepped away. Obviously just a physical position

608
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: that Ragnow played. I do expect that the Lions had

609
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: some idea that this was possibly coming, but maybe not

610
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: for sure. They did, you know, make an early investment

611
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: on the interior line in terms of Tate Ratledge in

612
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: the second round, and they've been talking him up. So

613
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: they'll figure out how that equation is all going to

614
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: work and who's at center, who's at garden everything.

615
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: But it's a huge loss for them.

616
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: When I think Lions over the last eight years, even

617
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: before Campbell, I think of Ragnow.

618
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: He's kind of been the keys.

619
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: Which is a lot of it kind of unusual when

620
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 4: you're thinking of a team and you're thinking of center

621
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 4: from the offensive line.

622
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 3: Also, just all the toe injuries that he had.

623
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Speaker 4: He said that it was the most severe degree of

624
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 4: turf toe that he played, and also had a separate

625
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: injury to the same toe in another season. I mean,

626
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: he's just been through it and all the while starting

627
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 4: every single game he played.

628
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 5: In Glad you brought that up, because this is some

629
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 5: beef that I have with some of the things that

630
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 5: we call injuries. Turf toe hurts like a mother. Really,

631
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 5: it is awful. And it's called turf toe. You got

632
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 5: it called something no, but you hear people talk about

633
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 5: how painful it is, and like these really tough elite

634
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 5: athletes talking about how painful it is and how it's

635
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 5: difficult to walk and you have to spend most of

636
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 5: your time sitting, and yet we've named it turf toe. Yeah,

637
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 5: it's like soft and fluffy. I know.

638
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: I think the problem is just toe is kind of

639
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: a funny sounding, silly name.

640
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: Just sounds so kind of.

641
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: Like a Liz Frank injury.

642
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't really know what to do with

643
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: this that harlote information right, Oh, like even.

644
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: Turf toe, like it just sounds like you stubbed your toe. Yeah,

645
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, yeah, Mookie Bets right now is

646
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: out for the Dodgers, and they said he said he

647
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: stubbed his toe, like walking at night in the middle

648
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: of the night.

649
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, is that a real thing? Oh gosh, yes

650
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: it is.

651
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: You have a sharp or throbbing pain at the base

652
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: of the toe, stiffness, difficulty moving it, swelling.

653
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the bummer.

654
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: Let's get back.

655
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 5: To the plansful plants our fasciata. She just sound like

656
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 5: you're into botany. You know, we got to think some

657
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 5: real things to call these things. Fractured throat, that's so metal,

658
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: like I understand that, and it sounds awful.

659
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: Fractured throat gives.

660
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: You broke your throat, man, it gives you.

661
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: Some cred in the locker room when you play through that.

662
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to the secret weapons. Two

663
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: minutest trails to Frank. Yeah, much respect to you.

664
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Speaker 2: Man, so much.

665
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he'll be watching this Lions team and

666
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: they their offensive line, by the way, was like not

667
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: quite as good as a reputation last year, and so

668
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: that this is going to be another thing to kind

669
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: of overcome.

670
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: Now him retiring. All right, Colleen, you are up with

671
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers.

672
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: Okay, So the Steelers their secret weapon is the first

673
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: Church of Tomlinology. This man handles the toughest of characters

674
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: and all the time, and he does it with some

675
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 4: type of divine intervention, because there's no other way that

676
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 4: you could see how he's able to handle such big

677
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: personalities and keep everything kind of so smooth and under

678
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 4: the radar.

679
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: He's strong, he's direct.

680
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: I love his ideology, his services on Sunday mornings. You know,

681
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: I like the one pm Mass, that's my favorite. All

682
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: of the homilies on the Standard is the Standard.

683
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: It's really great stuff.

684
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: But you know, I just think their creed we do

685
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: not live our fears. We walk into the light of

686
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: tom Ology. So yeah, I mean there is something to

687
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: be said. I know. It's like even me saying it.

688
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 4: If I was listening to me, i'd roll my eyes

689
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 4: about no losing season. But it's like, Okay, what was

690
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: he done in the playoffs? And like how do they get.

691
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: Over the hump?

692
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: But it's like now they're just sitting here waiting on

693
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers and somehow, some way, I know that they'll

694
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: figure out some way to not have a losing record,

695
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: which is unbelievable.

696
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: I'm falling into the trap of I'm like, man, I

697
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: think this is the year it's going to fall apart.

698
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: But I've that's happened to me every three years or so,

699
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: and it's always wrong because I lost my faith and

700
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: I should never lose my faith in the Church of Tomontology.

701
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: Well, it's a light Greg.

702
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 5: It is such a great Is it a metaphor? Assimilarly,

703
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 5: we're doing a metaphor. This is a metaphor. Correct, that's

704
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 5: the right one. So it is. It's interesting. It's a religion,

705
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 5: I know, but it is. It is interesting though, because

706
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 5: like the you know, real life topic, very polarizing at times,

707
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: and there is a wide, growing, vocal number of people

708
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 5: who are either on one side or either on the other,

709
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 5: and you can't change anyone's minds. It's almost like this

710
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 5: is rushing to a boiling point and nobody's gonna budget.

711
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Well, you know, who is a great person to decide it,

712
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: especially when we're getting like, you know, God talk in

713
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: the mix, Aaron Rodgers, you know.

714
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 4: Perfect Yeah, but also for real, their defense is kind

715
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 4: of their secret weapon with DJ and Cam and Minka.

716
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true.

717
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: Ye, let's do the Cleveland Browns. I'm going to say

718
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: their secret weapon. They're low expectations this year. Quietly since

719
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanci's gotten there, we've always thought they were going

720
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: to be good. I went back and looked at their

721
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: over under win total over the last five years.

722
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: It's never been below eight and a half.

723
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: This is the Cleveland Browns, and you know what, they

724
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: be expectations A few times. They had those years where

725
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: he won Coach of the Year, they won eleven games,

726
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: but like weirdly that that season where Joe Flacco played,

727
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: like going into the year, they were nine and a

728
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: half when over under like, we've thought they were going

729
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: to be good each and every year, and for the

730
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: most part, they've been average to very good until last year.

731
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: And this year they are tied for last place in

732
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: terms of expected win total five and a half, so

733
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: the expectations.

734
00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: Are very low.

735
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: I actually really do think that can be a secret

736
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: weapon for teams.

737
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: Maybe the Browns take advantage of it.

738
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 5: Despite the quarterbacks, can I give you guys a hot take?

739
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: Sure?

740
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, outside.

741
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 5: Of Deshaun Watson, I really like the dynamic of their

742
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 5: quarterback room with everybody that's in it. I don't mind

743
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 5: the fact that there's a multi person even more so

744
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: than the starter backup a third string camp arm. I

745
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 5: like the fact that there's multiple people vying for reps.

746
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 5: I like the fact that they seem to all be

747
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: getting along with each other. I like the fact that

748
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: they're going through in actual evaluation of the quarterbacks before,

749
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 5: like I don't know, like blindly signing somebody who they

750
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 5: don't know whether they're going to turn out to be

751
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 5: good or not, spending an exorbitant, an egregious amount of

752
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 5: money on that person.

753
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: I do like this.

754
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 5: I like that they're kind of going back to basics

755
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 5: and basically troubleshooting how they evaluate quarterbacks through the entire process.

756
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 5: I like that it's a couple of relatively short kings

757
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 5: on that roster. And then like the towering veteran right,

758
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 5: I just I like all of this. I like the vibes.

759
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: I like having young energy in that room. I think

760
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 5: it's good.

761
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: I hope it works out for Kevin Stefanski having all

762
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 4: of these guys in there. Like, I just this team

763
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 4: in general has been so snake bitten for so long,

764
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 4: and that position in general has.

765
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: Just been such a mess.

766
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 4: I just don't know if I can get on board

767
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 4: with the hot take it too.

768
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: And yet, like, if they win seven games and they

769
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: get decent quarterback play, that's kind of that's a win

770
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: for Stefanski.

771
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna keep his job. I really think it is.

772
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yet another vote Coach of the Year vote.

773
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that far if he won seven or.

774
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: Eight, but like like Cynthia Frielan had had them as

775
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: their third to last in terms of like expected win

776
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: total this year, which which feels about right. Where So

777
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: if he gets good quarterback, like decent quarterback play and

778
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: they win seven or eight games, like, that's going to be

779
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: more fun than the weight and the terrible feeling that

780
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson era has mostly been, certainly when he's

781
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: played Jordan, you're up with the Bengals.

782
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 5: Got a real barn burner here for the Cincinnati Bengals. Okay,

783
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 5: so the Trey Henderson Hendrickson contract drama is still not resolved.

784
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 5: The Shamar Stewart contract drama is still not resolved. So

785
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 5: I think that the secret weapon that the Cincinnati Bengals

786
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 5: have working in their favor right now as of June third,

787
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 5: is that it's almost time to talk about the Cowboys

788
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 5: contract drama again.

789
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a good call.

790
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: Plus, you're right if they wait forever on Michael Parsons

791
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, that is that kind of helps the

792
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: Bengals out when it comes to Hendrickson, right sure, because

793
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: if Parsons comes in early, that's just like another guy.

794
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna there are things secret weapon there.

795
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: Are Yeah, Bengals fans are like you guys said something

796
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: nice about every other team.

797
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 5: There are things that were well, their weapons are not secret,

798
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 5: like Joe Burrow is the weapon, jamar Cha, you know

799
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 5: t Higgins, They are the weapons like it's all that's

800
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 5: all gravy. They have to prove a lot on defense

801
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 5: this year after fall Guy Lou took the heat there

802
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 5: and Zach Taylor I think has a hell of a

803
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 5: lot to prove as well, and especially there sort of

804
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 5: is it's a weird lobbying of like is he the

805
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 5: face of this contract situation? Is he not the face?

806
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 5: How much communication is he having with players? There seems

807
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 5: to be like a little bit of a weird snaffoo.

808
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: They're kind of a national team though now it's interesting

809
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: like they're tied for the league lead and over underwin

810
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 1: total two and really I think because of Burrow they're

811
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: like a national team. Yeah, I don't know if the

812
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: attendant's totally going away.

813
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: The weapon is not The weapons are not secret.

814
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: If if you were going to try to come up

815
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: with a secret weapon for them, it's almost what's been

816
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: We've been calling their biggest weakness, which is they didn't

817
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: really do anything on defense, but they have great continuity.

818
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: All those guys have been there in theory. You could

819
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: flip out over that weakness.

820
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 5: They're just they're just hoping that we all forget about

821
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 5: the situation and talk about something else.

822
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: What is a secret full to look at it?

823
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 5: They said, for you guys coming back, this is a

824
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 5: compliment for.

825
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: It's in the name Jordan NFL Daily. We're definitely, We're

826
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: definitely going to be on the tree hundreds beat red, Colleen, Okay,

827
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, here.

828
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: We go, Ravens.

829
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Mark Andrews Redemption Tour, So yes, yay. Instead

830
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: of starting a new year by watching the ball drop,

831
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: the Ravens ended theirs this way, and Mark Andrews's mission

832
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 4: now is to make sure it never happens again.

833
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: So his entire offseason is.

834
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: Dedicated to working, to stewing, to obsessing. Because long after

835
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: that locker room went quiet, the noise was still in

836
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: his head. Guys, and Mark Andrews. He didn't make excuses,

837
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: he didn't disappear. He dipped into the shadows to rebuild.

838
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 4: Haunted not by the critics but by the play. He

839
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: couldn't rewind this offseason. There were no vacations at all,

840
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: no distractions, just sweat, just silence, just solitude for him,

841
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 4: first beating the sunrise to the field every day, running

842
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 4: routes with ghosts, then rewatching film until it burned into

843
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 4: his memory, like scripture, a single moment, an obsession fueling

844
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: thousands of reps out there. He caught balls in the

845
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 4: rain with closed eyes, with weight strapped to his body,

846
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, anything to make sure his hands would

847
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: never fail him again. Not out of fear, out of purpose.

848
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 4: So Mark Andrews, he wasn't training to return, He was

849
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: training to rewrite the ending.

850
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: Wow. Any of that true? All of it?

851
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 5: I have no IDEA quick question, did you have some

852
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 5: sort of extraterrestrial experience when you were in Fixer? Just

853
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 5: not judging, just.

854
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

855
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: You know scripture, I mean it would be a great place,

856
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: sort of zone out on nature.

857
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: Put it that way.

858
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of nature. The stars.

859
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 4: I've never seen stars like that in my life. I

860
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 4: didn't even know that there could be that many.

861
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: The nature is a little overwhelming there. It's almost like

862
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: that's the natural state and we've come in and kind

863
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: of ruined it.

864
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's just like that.

865
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: Man. Some of the Mark Andrews quote, the.

866
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: Clock is ticking for all of us. Where's the asteroid?

867
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 5: The life clock? We're back here.

868
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Since he brought up Andrews, I was too sad to

869
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: do his quotes from the other week when he first talked,

870
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: and this is what he said.

871
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: He said for him, he said, it's tough.

872
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: This is my life. I put a lot of work

873
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: into this. Everything I do is focused on that. Everything

874
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: I do is focused everything I think about is focused

875
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: on that. It wasn't the way I planned it, but

876
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: it's all part of the story. And he said he's

877
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: been using it and had an incredible off season and

878
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: is really excited the season.

879
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 5: As I mentioned a previous show, every time I think

880
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 5: about that moment, my entire body just like clenches up.

881
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 5: I feel so And I know it's like he's a professional.

882
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 5: He doesn't want you feel bad from whatever, but like, oh,

883
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 5: my entire body just clenches up in like empathy and pain.

884
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

885
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: It's great he's still with the Ravens because there was

886
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: a chance he wasn't going to be because I can

887
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: guarantee you that fan base will lift him up and

888
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: like cheer the hell out of him early, especially that

889
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: first game, like early this season, and let him know

890
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: that he's one of their dudes, one of the all

891
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: time great Ravens. All Right, I'm gonna go with the Jets.

892
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: We're wrapping up with the AFC East here, and their

893
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: secret weapon is gonna be a young offensive coordinator by

894
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: the name of Tanner Engstrand. And it's taken me this

895
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: long to like remember Engstrand, like Strand is at the end,

896
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: not like Hankstram, not no Strand, eng yenng Strand, Tanner Engstrand.

897
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: And I just gotta believe Aaron Glenn, who's been wanting

898
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: this opportunity to be a head coach for this long,

899
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: makes a good choice for his offensive coordinator that he's

900
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: got to think about that more than any other decision.

901
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: He knows that's the biggest decision. And this is the

902
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: young man that he has entrusted. It's supposed to be

903
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: a Lions type of offense. Offensive line. First, it's very

904
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: good offensive line. A lot of RPOs I googled him

905
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: and listened to his first press conference, just to like

906
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: get a normal guy, another guy who is in the

907
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: Jesse minter mole, just like.

908
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: A normal looking, regular guy.

909
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: But I think I trust Aaron Glenn so much that

910
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: this guy's going to have some great offensive ideas and

911
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: has the offensive line to pull it off.

912
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: One minute, that's it.

913
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 5: I love that. I think we talked earlier this year

914
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: about how the identity of the Jets offense is going

915
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 5: to be run through an MF first face, and the

916
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 5: defense has been strong with Aaron Glenn coaching it. I

917
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 5: have no doubt. Like I mentioned this the other day,

918
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 5: because they also just added Sean Clement to their analytics

919
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 5: staff and really well respected the analytics community. They are

920
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 5: everything they've done. Everything the Jets have done has been

921
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 5: pure high level competence. Like everything they've done this offense season,

922
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: it's like, if you were to do the severance thing

923
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 5: and just make this year exist and the rest of

924
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 5: it not, You're like, oh, yeah, that's a top ten team.

925
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 5: They make smart decisions. Wow, they make really sound organizational decisions,

926
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 5: and like, obviously there's a huge history of them not

927
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 5: doing that, but this off season has been awesome for

928
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 5: the Jets. In almost every way.

929
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: The Jets are back. Baby, let's go. We love the Jets.

930
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 2: I like the Jets' offseason.

931
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: I have been saying I love that over That's one

932
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: of my favorite over unders. I'll be considering that for

933
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: our draft five and a half. And they're blowing that

934
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: out now. That position is really cursed, the Jets offensive

935
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: coordinator position. They've tried every kind of way. Rich Se

936
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,959
Speaker 1: Media has a good article about it. Like the old guys,

937
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: the new guy like Chan Gaily, is the best offensive

938
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: coordinator they had probably in the last like fifteen years,

939
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: that Ryan Fitzpatrick's season.

940
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: So I think a secret breaks it, the secret crazies.

941
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 5: They brought in a guy who looks like every guy

942
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 5: that and actually he turns out to be a superpower guy.

943
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 3: And what we call him is like Jesse.

944
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: Winter Stordan is up with the New England Patriots.

945
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 5: Okay, to be clear, when I wrote this letter to

946
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 5: the New England Patriots from me, I thought we were

947
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 5: going top to bottom. So just bear with me.

948
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: Okay, does that have to do with it?

949
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: You'll see we'll find out.

950
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: Okay, New England, you have a type and that type

951
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 5: is a yes. You like to be led like to

952
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 5: be told what to do in every single way, from

953
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 5: the coaching staff to the field to the front office.

954
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: You have turned one of the most difficult personalities to

955
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 5: interact with as a normal human into a total asset

956
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 5: and a secret weapon, a type a head coach. As

957
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 5: it pertains to your organization. Mike Brabel's fingerprints are all

958
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 5: over this off season, from free agency and the hiring

959
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 5: process now to the succinct management of any off the

960
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 5: field issues with a certain receiver and a certain substance

961
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 5: on a certain boat. What incident we're onto Cincinnati.

962
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: It is their type. Maybe it's just like everyone's got

963
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: a type. Everyone's a little more comfortable.

964
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, noted.

965
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: What color was the substance?

966
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: Pink?

967
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: Thought it was purple.

968
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: No, I think it was pink. I didn't know that

969
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: was a thing one minute. He's gotta be fine though.

970
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: They made it. They made it clear by the way.

971
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: Stephan Diggs reportedly looked great. There actually was some football

972
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: news out of Stephan Diggs on Monday, and there was

973
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: videos of it.

974
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, he's practicing.

975
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: He's practicing pretty close to full like three quarters speed

976
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: individual drills some other stuff, like he's coming off a

977
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: TONYUSO did not expect that it might be close to

978
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: actually ready for day one of training camp, closer to

979
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: week one maybe than we expected. They're not going to

980
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: do anything about it, No, I mean Mike Rabel. Mike

981
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: Rabel is that's the thing different than Belichick. He is

982
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: a type A head coach. He's like, he's cool. He's cool.

983
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 5: What I like about And my point really for all

984
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 5: of this is like, yes, he does seem like a

985
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 5: type A head coach in the same vein as Belichick,

986
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 5: But I think he has this real connectivity and like

987
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 5: ability to just vibe with players. I'm not saying that

988
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 5: like you'd see him on the boat as well, but

989
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 5: I'm saying that, like he can reach people, he understands

990
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 5: how to blend different personalities. If you look at his

991
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 5: coaching staff. Yes I mentioned this before, Yes, he hired

992
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 5: Josh McDaniels, who's notoriously difficult to work with and his

993
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 5: offense is difficult to understand. But he balanced the rest

994
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 5: of the staff out with people who are very easy

995
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 5: to work with and who can reach players and who

996
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 5: everybody sort of has a part to play. And that's

997
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 5: where I think he has a real gift, where a

998
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 5: type A personality in this regard is a real asset

999
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: and a secret weab.

1000
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, McDaniels has had some of these players before. I

1001
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: was reminded he's very type A. But what he's a coordinator,

1002
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: he's a little different. But he's had Hunter Henry, he's

1003
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: had Bramandre, he's had Michael and Win.

1004
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: Like they were there in New England. It seems so

1005
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 2: long ago, Colleen, you're up with the Dolphins.

1006
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: Okay, this was tough.

1007
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 4: This team is pretty messy right now.

1008
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: So I guess you could say they're secret. It's not

1009
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: so secret though.

1010
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 4: Their secret weapon is they're always a threat in the

1011
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: running game, even when you know it's happening with Mike

1012
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: McDaniel and Devat a. Chan is obviously the main character

1013
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: of this operation. But it does speak to the success

1014
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: of what McDaniel's is able to do, because when teams

1015
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: are already preparing for it, they still are able to

1016
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: have success with it. I mean, they also exceed on defense,

1017
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: and I think that they don't get enough credit for

1018
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: the amount that they pressure.

1019
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 3: That's always really good. But otherwise it's this is a

1020
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: tough one.

1021
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: I think that's a good one, because it did fall

1022
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: off a little bit last year. But if you're going

1023
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: over track record, McDaniel delivers running game they have. They

1024
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: certainly have the running backs to pull it off, and

1025
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: that's like a great base to start from.

1026
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 5: Anthony Weaver too to your point, and one time guest

1027
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 5: on NFL Daily did a great interview front of the

1028
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 5: show it's myself and great yeah, friend of the show,

1029
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 5: and had a really good year last year, which kind

1030
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 5: of got buried and lost under the chaos of everything

1031
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 5: else they went through as an organization, especially on offense,

1032
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 5: how they sort of fell off and the injuries and

1033
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 5: all of these things, but those guys played really hard

1034
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 5: and it's they're like in a semi rebuild. Who don't

1035
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: know if Jalen Ramsey's going to be there anymore going

1036
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 5: into next year, but as long as you have stability,

1037
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 5: it seems like they're really trying to identify, Okay, what

1038
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 5: does culture actually mean to us on this team with

1039
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel as a head coach, finding his DC having

1040
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 5: some continuity on that side of the ball for the

1041
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 5: first time in a little bit. I do think that

1042
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 5: there are a couple different like sneaky secret weapons that

1043
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 5: they might be able to lean on, including always depending

1044
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 5: on the run game.

1045
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirtieth in rushing DVA last year, So it fell

1046
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: off a cliff so good, and that's going to be

1047
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: their focus. And they've talked about it a lot this

1048
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: offseason of getting back to the old.

1049
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 5: Met Yeah, they still and I think we're all doing.

1050
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 5: It's like what they it's been a pattern for them

1051
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 5: is once it gets into the middle of the season

1052
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: and beyond, it's like they forget how to run the

1053
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 5: ball when we know conceptually we've seen this with Mike

1054
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 5: McDaniel for years to your point, calling like he has

1055
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 5: the plans, he has the designs, he has the players.

1056
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: Like, especially when he was in San Francisco.

1057
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 5: Yes, so run the ball.

1058
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Bad vibes in Miami lately, certainly at the end of

1059
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: last season, great vibe in Buffalo.

1060
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: And that's it.

1061
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: Their secret weapon is their vibes. I really do believe

1062
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: in this. They did an article in The Athletic about

1063
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: Tredevius White returning and how happy Sean McDermott was to

1064
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: have him. It was his first ever draftic. He is

1065
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: great vibes as you learn. Yeah, with the Rams kind

1066
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: of like the veteran rejoining the room. He's got you

1067
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: know those those hats that everybody eats hats, oh, you

1068
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: know everybody that is sort of their mantra, and everyone

1069
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: buys in because that's Josh Allen.

1070
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 2: Josh Allen has great vibes. He just got married.

1071
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: The ol the offensive line, like Dion Dawkins is great vibes,

1072
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: great continuity there. I just I do think vibes matters,

1073
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: and I think they can handle the pressure that comes

1074
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: with always coming close, and I think vibes takes them

1075
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: over the top.

1076
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 5: I love Trey White. I have a very quick Trey

1077
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: White story, very briefly covered him for a year and

1078
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 5: he was new and he was learning his way around

1079
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 5: the building, learning where everyone parks. He drove this like

1080
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 5: giant suv into practice every day and had one of

1081
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 5: the parking spots up front I had. Typically I used

1082
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 5: to borrow one of the players who never who like

1083
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 5: would be one of the veterans who'd like not be

1084
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 5: at OTAs would asking if I could use their parking

1085
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 5: spot as like an office space because the RAMS former

1086
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 5: media room was like.

1087
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: Very bad, I remember it.

1088
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so so I used to take calls out

1089
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 5: there and sit on the curb with like my legs

1090
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 5: crossed and like basically be on my phone like talk

1091
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 5: doing an interview or something so that because there was

1092
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 5: nowhere else in the entire space to do an interview

1093
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 5: without people listening. And Trey White would come out for

1094
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 5: the first couple of days he was there, and he

1095
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 5: would look at me and he would kind of like

1096
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 5: give like do a wave or like a polite nod

1097
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 5: or whatever, and like be really quiet and like get

1098
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Speaker 5: in his car and like be super super quiet, and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, man, I'm sorry, I'm in your space,

1100
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 5: Like you don't need to worry about me. Eventually, after

1101
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 5: a couple of days, he goes, oh, my gosh, you're

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00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 5: actually doing work out here. I thought you were meditating.

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00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 5: I wanted to be respectful no.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, ah, you're the mast you are awes.

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00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: I love him.

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00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 5: Oh great is he?

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Speaker 3: He rocks.

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Speaker 1: I also imagine meditating in on a curb camp parking.

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00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 5: In a parking space. Bobby Wagner shout out to Bobby

1110
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: Wagner was the first one who started who let me

1111
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 5: use that parking space because he would take a car

1112
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 5: and so you didn't have to deal with traffic, a.

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00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: Lot of pressure being the Buffalo Bills. And yet like

1114
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, unlike their head coach, where is it so lightly?

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00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: You know?

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00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, where you're going to assume meditation is happening and

1117
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 5: peacefulness and calm versus like the chaos of work. Like

1118
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 5: that's the vibes over there in Buffalo right now.

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Speaker 2: How secret weapon?

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Speaker 5: I bet they have a lot of space to do

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00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 5: phone interviews over there.

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00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, see you next Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, the Rams. Yeah,

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00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: it's been a minute, but they've got plans. They're moving

1124
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: into their new facility eventually. Yes, see you next tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Not our secret weapon. We're just we're on Front Street

1126
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: with CN next Tuesday. And before we see next Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: I did want to mention your article.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your article. Oh okay, yea.

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00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: You wrote about you tell you all the listeners to

1130
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: check it out.

1131
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1132
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 5: Well, so over on the Athletic I have a story

1133
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 5: I've been working on for a while, couple of years. Actually,

1134
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 5: it's about a bond between Sean McVay and Chris Peterson.

1135
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 5: Chris Peterson and Sean McVay did not know each other

1136
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 5: prior to the twenty twenty three season. Twenty twenty three

1137
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 5: is a year in general, and Sean was going through

1138
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 5: a really hard time, very publicly, and Chris Peterson saw

1139
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 5: a video of some comments that Sean made about some

1140
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 5: of the mental struggles that he was dealing with as

1141
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 5: he considered stepping away from coaching and cold called him,

1142
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 5: got his number from Kellen Moore, his former quarterback at

1143
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 5: Boise State, and cold called him and left him like

1144
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 5: the kindest voicemail and basically asked him, hey, man, do

1145
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 5: you need help, because I can help you if you

1146
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 5: need help, or I can try and became a close confidant,

1147
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 5: a mentor. Chris Peterson has done a lot of personal work,

1148
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 5: psychological work because he himself dealt with some of the

1149
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 5: same issues that Sean McVay has dealt with in terms

1150
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 5: of burning out at the top of your field, running

1151
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 5: from your own success, kind of being becoming a victim

1152
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 5: of your own success, and not really knowing where to

1153
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 5: turn because your problems are very unique and you feel

1154
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 5: guilty that you even have them because you're at the

1155
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 5: top of your field. And so it was a really

1156
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 5: powerful story, really powerful reporting process and very heavy reporting process.

1157
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 5: At times because it took place over the course of

1158
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 5: multiple years. It's not a story I would write if

1159
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 5: I didn't really see and know that the work was

1160
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 5: being done to personally improve And I got to see

1161
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 5: that over the last couple of years and really really special,

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00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 5: really altering for me as well.

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Speaker 1: Jordan, I can't wait to read this and for Sean

1164
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: McVeigh you can tell too this experience that he's had

1165
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: with Chris Peterson, who I really recommend everyone check it out.

1166
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: I love great sports writing, like the type of really

1167
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: inside stuff that I feel like there's not quite as

1168
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: much anymore because you need that relationship, you need that trust,

1169
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: you need the time to do it all, and you

1170
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: did a great job.

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00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: Wes would love it with that, Yes, he absolutely would.

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Speaker 1: We will be back, I believe on Thursday, with my

1173
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: friend Patrick Claybon and a special guest. I believe Matt

1174
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: Harmon will be joining us in that episode. Until then, yeah,

1175
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: it isn't OTA's poppin kind of week.

1176
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: We have mini camps next week.

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00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 5: I'm recovering from the whiplash of laughing at your CEA

1178
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 5: next Tuesday phrasing to talking about a deeply serious and

1179
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 5: personal topic so you guys don't worry.

1180
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sick.

1181
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't need to pretend that cee you

1182
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: next Tuesday doesn't kill it.

1183
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: Football's back.

1184
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. I also like started working out so everything feels tight.