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Speaker 2: Us doing what we long.

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Speaker 2: It's time to bank. Oh yeah, goodness, gracious ass is bodacious. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we're back for vacation. It's Morning Combat. We are here

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Speaker 2: to party, we are here to bang. Monday, April twenty first,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and twenty five. I'm the co hostess with

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Speaker 2: the most as your boy, with that BBC, with that

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Speaker 2: bde Brian Campbell, that is Luke Thomas from the Nation's Capital.

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Speaker 2: We have a hell of a show for you today,

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Speaker 2: live and direct from Metal Arts Studios here in the

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Speaker 2: n y C. Thank you to everybody listening in your

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Speaker 2: DraftKings Network. And a reminder that today's episode of Morning

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Speaker 2: Combat is brought to you by DraftKings and with DraftKings,

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Speaker 2: the crown is yours, LT. Fresh off the bird from

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Speaker 2: the Crescent City. You're feeling refreshed, You're feeling ready to

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Speaker 1: I am not feeling refreshed because I got up at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, New Orleans is a great place. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: it is an amazing place. How was your vacation?

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Speaker 2: It was really nice. San Diego is except for the

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Speaker 2: I did drive through twenty nine Palms and did see

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Speaker 2: It definitely is uh. I forgot about it already, But

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Speaker 2: what I did? Because I can't sleep because I'm on

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Speaker 2: good old days. We used to be fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to be fat, We used to.

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Speaker 2: Be like high on the hog lit. I mean we

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Speaker 2: I think we could be that show again one day.

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Speaker 2: It is possible because even though we always like, well

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Speaker 2: We do have a fantastic show for you today as

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Speaker 2: we look ahead only what sixty eight days out from

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Speaker 2: ifw UFC three seventeen, I believe it biggest card of

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Speaker 2: and we're back. We're ready to go. Shout off to

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Speaker 1: They still have a couple of hands to play. They

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Speaker 2: Oh, I already did it, Long Island, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't appear to be any closer to that.

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Speaker 1: Let's go down the list. BC. Could they make International

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Speaker 1: Connor is on Tucker Carlson. I mean, I don't even

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Speaker 1: So you've got Islam, You've got Ilia, But you can stop.

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Speaker 2: The sentence right there. So you've got Islam, you've got Ilia,

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Speaker 2: but they're not going to make the fuck are we

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Speaker 2: doing here? That is a Stop Traffic Superstar fight number

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Speaker 2: what are we doing here? Why is that not automatically

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Speaker 2: So let's show if you don't mind long Island Luke First,

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Speaker 10: I would like to fight with Islam.

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Speaker 8: But if they don't give you that fight, if they

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Speaker 1: Come to it's the most marketable fight.

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Speaker 10: I don't care if Islam decides that he doesn't want

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Speaker 10: going to have to fight me. Okay, you say that

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Speaker 10: you are the world champion, you're going to keep dominating

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Speaker 2: So you would just sit on the sidelines rather than

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Speaker 10: I don't think that they're going to do that. I

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Speaker 10: in my next fight. So how much time you will

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Speaker 10: I deserve that chat.

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Speaker 2: Once I pass him, I get the title.

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Speaker 10: And you pulled me against party, so he was.

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Speaker 2: Promised the title shot. It feels like Islam is waiting

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Speaker 2: but what argument are we making here? If you want

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Speaker 2: still sells. It matters. Ilia versus Islam is not a

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Speaker 2: gimmick fight. It's the two best damn fighters in the

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Speaker 1: What am I missing? Okay, let's let's game this out.

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Speaker 1: If they make this fight, Let's say JDM wins at

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Speaker 1: for whatever you call it. Uh you International Fight Week?

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Speaker 1: Who does let me we have to we have to

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Speaker 1: think about this. Who does JDM defend against and win?

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Speaker 2: If he Ungary beats Carlos Practish, that's not a bad choice.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And I guess whenever they go back to when

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Speaker 1: go like November. Yeahs them that.

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Speaker 2: Because of his dad's because he's a hardcore fan.

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Speaker 6: The what I'm trying to make is but wait, I

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Speaker 2: Walter Waite's so crowded that there's multiple names like can

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Speaker 1: Okay, but they have they're probably gonna if JDM wins,

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Speaker 2: Like also rumors Buckley's gonna fight O thisman.

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Speaker 1: of JDM versus no no no no of Islam Metaporia.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I don't know, immediate rematch, Let's

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Speaker 7: What do we do?

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Speaker 1: You have to This is the point about doing these

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Speaker 1: let's just move on to the next one. But if

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Speaker 1: Even if he gets fucking.

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Speaker 2: Straight, Let's do a rematch if it's close or if

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Speaker 1: So now that leaves a question of, like what do

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm honestly not trying to do it that way.

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Speaker 1: to look at it. Do they want to make events,

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Speaker 1: of course they do, but they also want to make calendars. Sure, Sure,

439
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Speaker 1: And when you're making calendars, robbing Peter to pay Paul

440
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 1: carries risk and consequences for what could happen down the line. Now, listen,

441
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Speaker 1: if Balog goes in there and smokes JDM, it kind

442
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Speaker 1: of narrows Islam's options in a major way. But if

443
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Speaker 1: he gets fucked up at three point fifteen, it changes

444
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Speaker 1: the equation dramatically at that point, especially for what Islam

445
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Speaker 1: wants to do in his career. And by the way,

446
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Speaker 1: if you go in there, and if he goes in

447
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 1: there and wastes Ilia and to Poria, excuse me, and

448
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: JDM was available at one seventy. It just you have

449
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Speaker 1: to think about how this plays out for the twenty

450
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Speaker 1: twenty five calendar year. I'm not saying that's not a

451
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Speaker 1: reason to not make it.

452
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Speaker 2: Are you saying that if if Islam were to lose

453
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Speaker 2: to Ilia, it would ruin the idea of him moving

454
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Speaker 2: up and fighting for the title right away.

455
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Speaker 1: That completely destroys it. If you can't beat a guy

456
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Speaker 1: moving up from forty five, why are we wasting our

457
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Speaker 1: time with anybody at seventy.

458
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Speaker 2: But at least there's enough names at seventy and marketable

459
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Speaker 2: sexy names. I think where you can keep that title

460
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Speaker 2: picture alive. It's not like you're killing the division. I'm

461
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 2: wondering if and the announced fights already by the way

462
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Speaker 2: for UFC three seventeen June twenty eighth, Pantosia is gonna

463
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Speaker 2: defend against KAIKR France, the Flyway by Brandon roy Vall

464
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 2: against Menelkopp, very good fight, the fight with division, and

465
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Speaker 2: then we're gonna get a tour of TAFA with Justin

466
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Speaker 2: against Jahanada Denise. I butchered that name, sorry whatever, Uh

467
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Speaker 2: but the point.

468
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Speaker 1: Here is uh damn, I don't give a fuck, even

469
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Speaker 1: if you.

470
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Speaker 2: Didn't want to run Ilia directly into Islam. But again,

471
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Speaker 2: it's like, if you can't give us John and aspenall

472
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Speaker 2: in a reasonable amount of time, and you can't give

473
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Speaker 2: us Connor McGregor, and I get why, Like, could you

474
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: please give like what you're supposed to do, what you're

475
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Speaker 2: all about making the best fight the best Okay, but

476
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Speaker 2: let's say you didn't do that. Could you do justin

477
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Speaker 2: Gatgee versus Islam in the main event and Ilia making

478
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Speaker 2: his one fifty five debut in the Comaine against a

479
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Speaker 2: big name Charles for example, Sarukian.

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Speaker 1: You could do that, but it sounds like it sounds

481
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Speaker 1: like Taporia doesn't want a piece of that, which drives

482
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Speaker 1: me nuts, because did.

483
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Speaker 2: They promise him though yes or no? He says yes?

484
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Speaker 2: Is a promise a promise anymore?

485
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what that either promises. I don't

486
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Speaker 1: know what I don't know what that is supposed to

487
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Speaker 1: even mean. At this point, I'm not saying that they

488
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Speaker 1: haven't done that, but like, as the circumstances change, the

489
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Speaker 1: need to enforce this changes, and I don't even I

490
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Speaker 1: don't I don't even know what to say about that.

491
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Speaker 1: I mean, the question you have to ask yourself is

492
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Speaker 1: and I'm not getting into the fighter pay debate. I'm

493
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Speaker 1: just asking could they make it? In other words, maybe

494
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Speaker 1: they went to Islam and maybe they went to Iliot.

495
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Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we want you guys for this particular date.

496
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Speaker 1: We want to make it, and Islam's like, yeah, I

497
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Speaker 1: don't know, and Tiporia is like, well, I would do it,

498
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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna take number one contender. To what

499
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Speaker 1: extent does a little more of this change their options?

500
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Speaker 1: And I don't know how to answer that question because

501
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Speaker 1: I don't really know what really the hold up is,

502
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Speaker 1: but it's something at least on the back of my

503
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Speaker 1: mind if we really have to make this. But this

504
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Speaker 1: is the point I wanted to I'm going back to

505
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Speaker 1: BC is do they feel like this is the answer?

506
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Speaker 1: This is the question you have to answer. Do they

507
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Speaker 1: feel like they have to make International Fight Week main

508
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Speaker 1: events as maximally big as possible? And I guess I

509
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Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that.

510
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Speaker 2: Not only do they not have to under the setup

511
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Speaker 2: of their ESPN deal, which expires soon, but you can

512
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Speaker 2: also make the argument of why waste some of these

513
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Speaker 2: big bullet fights when you're about to sign with a

514
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Speaker 2: Netflix or a Prime right, and wouldn't you a fight

515
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: like this level to kick it off? But I've also

516
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: got to say, like, what do you owe the fans

517
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Speaker 2: when you're already in a year that has water down

518
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Speaker 2: match making and it's a topic on our show every week.

519
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Speaker 2: This is a no brainer. It's sitting in front of you.

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Speaker 2: Answer this about a guy I respect the shit out

521
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Speaker 2: of Islam Mahachev, the best fighter in the world. I

522
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Speaker 2: love the I mean I love him as a fighter.

523
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Speaker 2: What's really going on with his stance that Toporia doesn't

524
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Speaker 2: deserve it? Is it only about Hey, the UFC kind

525
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: of softly maybe promised me that I could go up

526
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Speaker 2: another division? Why would I have to fight this killer first?

527
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Speaker 2: Isn't the m all of Mahachev and other hammers of

528
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Speaker 2: his kind that they're going to take on all comers?

529
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Speaker 2: How many did you see that spliced the video fans

530
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Speaker 2: are putting out on Twitter of all the times that

531
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Speaker 2: Mahachev was like, set up the next guy in line,

532
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Speaker 2: I'll take him out. I fight the best all the time.

533
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Speaker 2: Isn't this a bad look to be so bold? In

534
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Speaker 2: the same way we criticize John Jones for publicly talking

535
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Speaker 2: his way out of the aspinal fight. In almost every

536
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 2: interview he gives right acting like it doesn't matter to him,

537
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Speaker 2: or it's not big and he doesn't want it, or

538
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: whatever the case is. Shouldn't we give that same criticism

539
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Speaker 2: to Islam In.

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Speaker 1: This case, Islam didn't sit active for years at a time,

541
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Speaker 1: and like hold a title hostage. I mean, he's been

542
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Speaker 1: much more active, So to me, it's not the same

543
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Speaker 1: kind of thing. Also, it's like, oh, a fighter said

544
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: one thing at one point in their career and now

545
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Speaker 1: they're saying a different thing at a different point in

546
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Speaker 1: their career.

547
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Speaker 2: Shouldn't he If you're the number one in the world,

548
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Speaker 2: shouldn't it be about defending that. I mean, come on,

549
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Speaker 2: I think I'm not even an Ilia guy here.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, do you think it's the fact

551
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Speaker 7: that Ilia is a natural forty five and all Islam's

552
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Speaker 7: title defenses have been against former forty five ors.

553
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Speaker 1: Maybe he wants Yeah, it's not like he's duck in

554
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Speaker 1: smoke if he's wanting a guy at seventy and again,

555
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Speaker 1: he's the only reason he doesn't want Balal is because

556
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Speaker 1: they are Obviously they have a relationship from training together.

557
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Speaker 1: It's not like he's doesn't want tough fights. He just

558
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Speaker 1: wants the right kind of tough fight at this point, which,

559
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Speaker 1: by the way, you can also make the claim that

560
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Speaker 1: if you're Iliot to excuse me, if you're Islam Makachev

561
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Speaker 1: and doing what he's done and fought who he's fought,

562
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Speaker 1: maybe he's earned that position. Maybe he's got just a

563
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Speaker 1: few fights left in his career and he wants to

564
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Speaker 1: make maximal use out of them. He doesn't want to

565
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Speaker 1: fight a guy another guy coming up from forty five,

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Speaker 1: who if Islam goes in there and smokes him, they're

567
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Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, all he does is beat

568
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Speaker 1: up forty five ers again.

569
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is different. And by the way, that

570
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: the major forty five I agree, major argument surrounds Volkanovski,

571
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Speaker 2: who was the number one fighter at the time when

572
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Speaker 2: they foilt. So I'm not even gonna count that as

573
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Speaker 2: a forty five or blown up. The first fight was

574
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Speaker 2: that close. Okay, I'm not even gonna count that. Number

575
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Speaker 2: two to Poria is not a natural small one forty

576
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Speaker 2: five or moving up. He's the second best fighter in

577
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Speaker 2: the world on my pomp for pound list, he's on

578
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Speaker 2: the verge of breakout, start them. It's a different conversation.

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Speaker 1: It sounds to me like what you want is a

580
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Speaker 1: promoter to make a maximum effort on certain tent pole events.

581
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Speaker 1: Let me finish, Yeah, the best to fight the best.

582
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy. I'm not. I'm not in

583
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Speaker 1: any way disagreeing with GBC. I really am not. But

584
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Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's where we are with

585
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Speaker 1: how events get made.

586
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Speaker 2: I just don't get that there's not a unanimous fan

587
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Speaker 2: reaction that this has to be the next fight to make,

588
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: and it makes more sense than it doesn't. In fact,

589
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 2: it makes all the sense. I understand if you're an

590
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Speaker 2: Islam super fan and you're trying to make the case

591
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Speaker 2: that he's earned it. I get that there's other lanes

592
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Speaker 2: where you can argue against it. But isn't it, at

593
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Speaker 2: the end of the day about number one fight number two?

594
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Speaker 2: And they happen to be in the same division, they're

595
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Speaker 2: both huge stars. Am I missing?

596
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Speaker 8: No?

597
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Speaker 1: I think most fans, from what I can tell online

598
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Speaker 1: and again, online sentiment is not necessarily always the best indicator.

599
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: Certainly online most people agree with you. Most people are

600
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Speaker 1: like I don't care what this means or what the

601
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Speaker 1: obstacles are. It's the biggest fight they can make, or

602
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: at least one of the very biggest fights they can make.

603
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Speaker 1: And certainly even John versus Tom I think is a

604
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Speaker 1: much bigger fight. But I think a much better fight. Honestly,

605
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Speaker 1: there's a pure fight is probably gonna be islam Ilia

606
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Speaker 1: because you're getting two guys who are absolute peak of

607
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Speaker 1: their powers, whereas John is clearly not at the peak

608
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Speaker 1: of his powers and Tom Asminal probably is. And you know,

609
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Speaker 1: I don't know what that asymmetry will be for the

610
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Speaker 1: fight itself, but I'm just saying number one versus number

611
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Speaker 1: two pound for pound, if that's the way you have it,

612
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: that's a fight that cannot be topped. Plus it'd be exciting.

613
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: Plus they, you know, not got power in the case

614
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Speaker 1: of Tuporia super well, I think most fans certainly agree

615
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: with you. Why aren't we getting it? If that's if

616
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: it's so, I don't know.

617
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Speaker 2: This is it that people don't make extreme a side

618
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: salaries that even though we always argue when we talk

619
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: about Jones aspinall UFC could pay that tomorrow.

620
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Speaker 1: They don't need to think if you're Islam, are you

621
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: making a lot more money fighting JDM than you are

622
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Speaker 1: to Pouria.

623
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Speaker 2: I don't know, so you're not. No, But in that one,

624
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: at least JDM is going to make a certain amount,

625
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: Islam's going to make this much. This seems to be

626
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Speaker 2: a matchup where they're both going to make super a

627
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: side money. Right, So I'm asking you if this is

628
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: the UFC just not wanting to break out or TKO

629
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Speaker 2: not wanting to break out of the recent financial amount

630
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Speaker 2: that they're paying for each fight, the same reason why

631
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Speaker 2: we say they could make Jones aspinal tomorrow, but they

632
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Speaker 2: don't want to set certain precedents with Jones, are they

633
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: saying and would that be part of this conversation am

634
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Speaker 2: I looking to do?

635
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that that would preclude them from making it, okay,

636
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: But the question then becomes if, in a world where

637
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: guys are getting less and less from pay per view,

638
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: if they would be enticed with bigger guarantees and that

639
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: might be harder to procure to what extent that could

640
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: be doing it? But I honestly feel like that's really

641
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: not even it. I would honestly feel like the biggest

642
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: thing is the fact that he's at forty five and

643
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: he hasn't beaten anyone in the top five. And again,

644
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: whatever inconsistent logic you might be getting from Islam is

645
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: irrelevant at this point. Like he has some leverage. He

646
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: has I want to say, minimal but modest amount of

647
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Speaker 1: time left. And I'm not saying he can call all

648
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: the shots, but he can call some of them.

649
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not lost on me that you can

650
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: keep two huge stars two huge stars by not running

651
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: him into each other. But it's sort of like, what

652
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: is your mo as a promo?

653
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Speaker 1: This is going to sound unfair because I'm like, oh,

654
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Speaker 1: I'm just blaming it, you know, a different part of

655
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Speaker 1: the game. But I am saying that, like if the

656
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Speaker 1: women's game had more stars, or even just any other

657
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: division had more stars, we wouldn't be quite as reliant

658
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Speaker 1: on like one or two matchups to make these big fight,

659
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: big fights in the calendar. But again, I don't think

660
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Speaker 1: there's a damn thing wrong with making Islam versus Ilia

661
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: other than the principles in these cases don't want to

662
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Speaker 1: make it. And it's kind of bumping up against the

663
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Speaker 1: fact finding mission of three fifteen and just creates complication.

664
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Speaker 1: I think you might end up getting it, which you

665
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: might end up getting it kind of late.

666
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: You may end up getting it to kick off the

667
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: prime era or whoever we're going there. So the DDP

668
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: injury is not like officially official, but Kevin and Iola

669
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: sort of threw it in his column, and the column

670
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: was based around the idea in his opinion that given

671
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: all these matchmaking circumstances, that Mahchev versus gai Chi is

672
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: probably the right move to go in that direction. We

673
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: could certainly argue that it's not a bad fight by

674
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Speaker 2: any means, but is it the best fight they can make?

675
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: But he sort of threw it in there as almost

676
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: after the fact that by the way, I'm hearing that

677
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: DDP is hurt. Tramaiav instantly took to social media and

678
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: let's see his reaction. This guy biggest bullshit. DDP did

679
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: respond this morning, by the way, by showing essentially like

680
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: the Wikipedia page of Tremaiav's history.

681
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: Of like yeah, which is quite extensive or whatever.

682
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: That is right there, you're also seeing I always say

683
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: his last name wrong, Kyo Bohalio Bihalio saying I'll fight

684
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: Tamayah and then saying on Twitter that Tamaia have accepted it,

685
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: and then even going as far as saying that fight

686
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: has to be for the interim title, even though GDP

687
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: just fought two months ago. Yeah no, could that be

688
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: like a comain that you'd be okay with? We don't

689
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: need an interm.

690
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Speaker 1: Title on that right, not to say you wouldn't get one.

691
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: Uh, could tamayav main event in IFW for an interim

692
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: title against an opponent that isn't a star.

693
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question, I'd be that's a great question.

694
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: You could argue that's watered down, or you could say

695
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: tamaiav is a breakout.

696
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, on its own terms, Chamaia versus

697
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: Boholio is a great fight, right because Bohalio is good

698
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: on the ground, you would imagine would be able to

699
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Speaker 1: have some kind of an answer for a least portions

700
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Speaker 1: of that game. And by the way, his striking is

701
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: getting better as well, and he's kind of definitely has

702
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: moved through the contentership que fairly and competently. Could you

703
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: do that as like a box office thing for International

704
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: Fight Week? If you slapped an interim title on it.

705
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: I think you could get away with it because people

706
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: are just desperate for Hamzat to ascend. But that would

707
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: be a bit of a letdown because even then it

708
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: still doesn't set up the big one. There needs to

709
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: be some kind of major title resolution. At International Fight Week,

710
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: John Jones had a big title. You have to put

711
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: a big title on the line here, So like you

712
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: could get away with an interim definitely as the co Maine,

713
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how that plays as a main event.

714
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: That's a tougher self.

715
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: When McGregor pulled out with the toe injury last year,

716
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: the recurring theme was just called Poton and he once

717
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: again saved the day and delivered a big knockout in

718
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: the main event. Just like you did at UFC three hundred.

719
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: You brought out the idea of well, if everyone's healthy

720
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: and willing, could we just do Anklaia of defending in

721
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: a rematch against Poton and that'll fix all of this?

722
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: Would that fix all of this in your eyes?

723
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Speaker 1: First of let me say one thing. I know that

724
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: the biggest International Fight Week is Mendez McGregor. That was

725
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be Aldo McGregor. He pulled out and it

726
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: was for an interim title. But like McGregor was red

727
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: hot at that time and UFC one ninety four.

728
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: Gregor could have gave a press conference in the main

729
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: event exactly.

730
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: So that's a very different circumstance. I don't feel like

731
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: Jimia is quite on that level. So in any case,

732
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: could you do the Poeton on calive thing, Yes you could.

733
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: If you needed to pull that trigger, you could do it,

734
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: But once again, what does that do to the remaining

735
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: part of the calendar? Less a concern for two five.

736
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: I know Olberg is in the waiting wings, is waiting

737
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: in the wings, but doesn't really have a mandate because

738
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: that when over Jan was fine but not remarkable.

739
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: I think he's got a lot of woman dates to be.

740
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: He might have, he might have, you know, he's had

741
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: some plowing to do, you know what I mean. He's

742
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: not a farmer, so I think you could get away

743
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: with it. But all these things where it's like you know,

744
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: creating destination event at the top of by by how

745
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: you match make at the top of a card, it's

746
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: difficult to do. You have to. It's the kinds of matchups.

747
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of stuff they could do as you

748
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: mentioned Islam versus Gay Chee. I think it's probably your

749
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: leading Candidge.

750
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: If Kevin Elie is writing about it, probably is. He

751
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: seems to be very connected and up on that. What

752
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: about star power wise Islam versus Max Holloway. Do you

753
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: remove Holloway because he got knocked out recently or do

754
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: you say, well he beat Gai Chee at one fifty five,

755
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: he's the BMF champion. I know we're earmarking him for Poorier.

756
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, I don't think they're gonna pull that trigger.

757
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: I think they definitely want that trilogy for the Louisiana show.

758
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: I think what Smoothie king Center's words kind of which

759
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: is right next to the super Dome, would is.

760
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: That a pay per view, by the way, would almost

761
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: have to be right.

762
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

763
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Speaker 6: I think it's supposed to be a fight night.

764
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Speaker 1: Yeah for them, that's a great fight NW.

765
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Speaker 2: Mean you could kind of could you make that as

766
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: the as the three seventeen and just be like, sorry,

767
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: New Orleans, Uh, we're going in this direction.

768
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: I could you main event with that.

769
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: It's so much star power that people would not get

770
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Speaker 2: angry on.

771
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that who would complain about the fight.

772
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Nobody Poorier retirement fight is history. I think if you

773
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: had a strong supporting cast and their rematch was fire,

774
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: it was fire. I think if you had a strong

775
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: supporting cast, people would be happy. But as it stands,

776
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: as good as those flyweight fights are that you listed,

777
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: including the title fight, those are quality fights, but those

778
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: are not gonna get people to look the other way.

779
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: And not having the big the big hammer, oh yeah,

780
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: or your main event.

781
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: This to Freddie, Hey, long Al, look are we missing anything?

782
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: What is there a match up, a name that we're

783
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: not bringing out here that could do this?

784
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 7: No, I said to you, guys like Poton Unclive. To me,

785
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 7: at this point feels the most likely. And like to

786
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 7: Luke's point about holding up divisions, they've talked about doing

787
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 7: this rematch anyway, so I don't think.

788
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 6: It holds up any like Olberg should be next. But

789
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 6: realistically they're probably gonna do the rematch regardless.

790
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, they're gonna do the Olberg doesn't have

791
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: a mandate.

792
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 6: I mean, so why not just do it at International

793
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 6: Fight Week?

794
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: You got the KKF. Pantosia is the colemane. I mean,

795
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: this is this is I fully agree this, But this

796
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: is my only problem with all of this is and

797
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: I think this is what you're feeling as well, which

798
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: is I get again they're build in calendars. That's different

799
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: than making events. But it just feels to me like

800
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: what hole could we plug is a very different conversation

801
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: than what jewel could we build around? You know what

802
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, oh, we can this will this can

803
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: go in here? You know. It's almost like you ever

804
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: seen those cooking shows where it's like, Okay, your your

805
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: ingredients are licorice, bubble gum, banana peels, cigarette butts, and

806
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: rock salt, and you're like, you got to make some

807
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: dish versus hey, chef, just make the best dish with

808
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: the best ingredients you can and you might get a

809
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: better meal one way or the other. But they're a

810
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: very different kind of process by which you are making

811
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: a dish.

812
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: And should your counter to my aggressive push that islam

813
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 2: Ilia needs to be next? Should it have been on

814
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: sixty eight days? Notice you know what I mean? Like

815
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: you would want to you would want to.

816
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: Hype that's a doable amount of They don't really hype.

817
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: It like that anymore.

818
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 8: Though.

819
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: It's the old days of press tours and stuff doesn't

820
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: happen as much.

821
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again sixty eight is fine, Like as as

822
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: how much time do you have to do a camp,

823
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: that's plenty. That's plenty of time.

824
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: All right.

825
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: Interesting. One final note regarding headliners and injuries. The UFC

826
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: three sixteen man event. Of course, I believe June seventh, Newark,

827
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: New Jersey is the rematch as Morob Defense's Bandon Whit

828
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: title against Shaan O'Malley. What did you make of that

829
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: video that's out there? I guess Sean O'Malley and people

830
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: were surveying land of where he's going to build his

831
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: new house and he seemed to be on crutches. Is

832
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 2: that troublesome? Is that worrisome?

833
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what's real anymore through the internet pranks.

834
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: Or if it took place a year ago.

835
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I don't.

836
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: Well, now, look you had anything it to add to this.

837
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 6: I didn't even see that.

838
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just say this, God help him if

839
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: it's true.

840
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

841
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: Maybe the whole reason that they're making this event is

842
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: in part because they are trying to find them. By

843
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: the way, when that fight got announced, like the mass

844
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: confusion over how that fight got made was like baffling

845
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: to me, like how could the UFC make this? And

846
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, how could they not make it? I mean again,

847
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: you could have pulled the trigger. Yes, you could have

848
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: pulled the trigger on a twenty five versus thirty five

849
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: super fight, you could have done that.

850
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: But again, but even that doesn't sell.

851
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: That doesn't sell, and that also creates logjams and potentially

852
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: and then the divisions depending on what happens there. More

853
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: to the point like, oh, we're just gonna have Brobdwallas

854
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: WHEELI versus PYOTR Yann. We're gonna try and sell that

855
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 1: in North American market. This is a fine fight to sell,

856
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: but you need probably if you're gonna sell to a

857
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: North American in particularly American pay per view buying audience,

858
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: probably is gonna help to have an American on there

859
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: probably gonna be one that at least had some kind

860
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: of a push behind them, although that that has certainly faded.

861
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: But the point I wanted to make is like O'Malley

862
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: selling this has been Oh, I was fucked up the

863
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: first time. If you're fucked up the second time, I mean,

864
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, you're I don't know what to tell you, and.

865
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: You make a great point. Who I don't know to

866
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: believe videos on the anymore with all this AI.

867
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: Bullshit, not even that it's just like I hope for

868
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: your sake it's not true, because the entire selling point

869
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: is that you were injured last time.

870
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: I fully agree with you on that one. Wild times

871
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: will see how that plays out. But speaking of time,

872
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: speaking about a good time, By the way, now is

873
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: a very good time to remember where Tequila's story truly began. Yes,

874
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: in seventeen ninety five, Quervo invented tequila. I said that

875
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: right since then, Cuervo had stayed true to its roots.

876
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: We're talking about the same family, the same land, the

877
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: same passion for what they do. Two hundred and thirty

878
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: years later, we're still here. Quervo is in every pore,

879
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: every margarita, and in every celebration, including when you have

880
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: three of them at an MK Live show. But more importantly,

881
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: it's time to enjoy the tequila that started at all, Quervo,

882
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: the tequila that invented tequila. Proximo Quervo dot com. Please

883
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: drink responsibly, and Luke, we have a great relationship with cuervop.

884
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: How about that episode of pregame Preview three fourteen that

885
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: we did right before our vacations with one Jed Michu

886
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: the second entertaining piece of business.

887
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: Yes, aside from getting lice from Jed, I had a

888
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: wonderful time in here. Shots to Cuervo being great sponsors,

889
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: wonderful to drink.

890
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: That the blanco.

891
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't wait for UFC three fifteen. I know

892
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: people are kind of bagging on that main event. I

893
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: gotta say you, I like that that mad An event

894
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: quite a bit. I think it's going to be much

895
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: better than people think. And I look forward to getting

896
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: ready for it with our friends at Quaver right here,

897
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: returning this studio.

898
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get maybe we'll get old man menden Hall

899
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: out of the bullpen, all right, maybe we'll get up.

900
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: Took his hat off off camera. Yeah, oh boy. And

901
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I saw the scene

902
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: at the end at the end of Return of the Jedi.

903
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: You don't you don't make it out of here, Bud.

904
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, it's time for topic number two. And

905
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: when we're talking about, by the way, the PFL, the

906
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: Professional Fighters League, and let's be honest, and fair because

907
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: that's what we always try to be. It's been a

908
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: tough year for pr for the PFL, despite the success

909
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: of Dermaga, metof versus Hughes and the fact that three

910
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: cards into their tournament season, it has been kind of

911
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: action packed indecent. Well, let's talk about bigger picture stuff.

912
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: The biggest picture, the biggest star they have. You could

913
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: argue Dakota Ditcheva, the one hundred and twenty five pound

914
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: superstar who won their million dollars in their tournament last year,

915
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: kind of quickly and brutally defeating former UFC title challenger

916
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 2: Tyler Santos. Well, the Coota Ditchiva hasn't fought since closing

917
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: out twenty twenty four. She did arrive at att in

918
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: South Florida for a sit down with that guy MMA junkies,

919
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: Mike Bone and Luke. What we heard out of her

920
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: was Ditcheva airing her concern over her PFL future, including

921
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: a lack of communication from the promotion, no concrete plans

922
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: for her next fight, and the promotion kind of just

923
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: being like, we don't really know when you're gonna fight next.

924
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: Let's listen in. We certainly want to react to this,

925
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: here's Mike Bone and Dakota.

926
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 8: It's point, in the past three years you'd had two

927
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 8: fights under your belt already, So I mean, I'm sure

928
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 8: it's nice you got the big prize. Life's probably good,

929
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 8: but I'm sure you're getting itchy knuckles right, definitely.

930
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

931
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: I mean the prize, like you said, was amazing, The

932
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: belt's amazing. But for me, I want to fight. You know,

933
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: I loved fighting four times last year. The year before that,

934
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: fought three times the year before that for four times.

935
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: So I've always been a really active fighter. So this

936
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: for me now, especially not having anything even lined up,

937
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: is really like mentally challenging for me, Like I've really

938
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: got to just believe in the process and let everything

939
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: happen how it should. It's testing me for sure. Like

940
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: that's probably why I went home because at the start

941
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: of the year I was hearing I was hearing Florida

942
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: training with nothing like lined up, seeing everybody trained for

943
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: this tournament, it was really disheartening for me. So I

944
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: went home and refreshed a little bit. Now I'm back,

945
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 3: ready to get back in the gym and hopefully something

946
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: will come up by them.

947
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 8: Got to put you in there at some point, and

948
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 8: I assume you have a contract and they do, oh

949
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 8: you fights at some points exactly.

950
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another thing, Like I'm in contracting. You guys

951
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: have to have me fight so I know that they

952
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: will pull something out.

953
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 7: Of the bag.

954
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: There's just been a lot of changes obviously. This whole

955
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: year has been a big change for themselves. I'll trust

956
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: that they they bring something for me.

957
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 8: It's just sp a bummer because I know after the

958
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 8: last fights, You're like, I want them to find something

959
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 8: that's going to test me and like, you know, raise

960
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 8: up the level. But now it seems like it's just

961
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 8: get me anything.

962
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just like getting anything literally, But like you said,

963
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, it was kind of it's harder. I get

964
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: it's hard for PFL. You know, they've put all the

965
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: girls in the tournament and then now they need to

966
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: find someone that's that's gonna kind of give me a

967
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: good competition. They can't give me someone that's you know,

968
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: just kind of signed to the PFL and not really

969
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: had that much experience, because it doesn't make sense. I've

970
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: just beat Santos very easily. I think that's another thing

971
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: that I have to understand is like, if I'd had

972
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: a five round war with Santos, there would have been

973
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: a few more people in there that would have been

974
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: more of a match. But I walked through it. I

975
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: walked through everyone last year. So it just put them

976
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: in a difficult position now, and I get it. But

977
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll work to find someone.

978
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: So look, this video was last Thursday, went viral quickly.

979
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: The following night, on the PFL three broadcast of their

980
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: tournament season, they brought to Koda Ditcheva ringside and this

981
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: is what they said.

982
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, excited to have you here. So a little bird

983
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 4: telling me in my ear that we've got good news.

984
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: It'll be a July fight for Dakota Ditchiva.

985
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: I did just have a great chat with darm I

986
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: did actually feel a little bit more hopeful.

987
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 7: Now.

988
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: I think people are getting a little bit stressed that

989
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: they weren't going to have me fight this year. But guys,

990
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm coming back.

991
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: Don't worry. There was always the plan to have the

992
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 4: Cooda Ditchiva fighting in twenty twenty five. It will be

993
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: the first of four Champions Series dates in the twenty

994
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 4: twenty five calendar.

995
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: Now, to be fair, no opponent, no official date, no location.

996
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: What does this say when the biggest piece that PFL

997
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: has the arguing point, someone that essentially homegrown and built

998
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: their stardom through them, that is young, ready to take

999
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: over the world, that she has to go public to

1000
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: complain to get noticed. I know that they tried to

1001
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 2: fix the next day, but what does this say about

1002
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 2: the promotion's attitude and maybe their structure, because all they

1003
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: care about now is this tournament matching guys in rematches

1004
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: the second rate people like this with no titles at stake.

1005
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: Where do you weigh in on this?

1006
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: This is something that we've This version of the issue

1007
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: is new. This version of as you mentioned and we

1008
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: saw the video Dakoda Dish was speaking of, is by

1009
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: the way, it's my bond bonfire.

1010
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I guess I'll staying more of his like, you.

1011
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: Know, a bit and then you're like you double down

1012
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: on him, like it's kind of.

1013
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: Just adopted that pronunciation.

1014
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: Listen, if you're kind of like you and Cass, Yeah, yeah, well,

1015
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: I mean that's different. But either way he calls it Bob,

1016
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: I'll just put that. But to the point, this is

1017
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: a new version of the issue, but it's an old,

1018
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: and it's a lingering issue. It's one that we've covered

1019
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: on the show extensively, and I feel like a broken

1020
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: record when we go over this because there's like denial

1021
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: about it. But now you're just beginning to see evidence

1022
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: that there can no longer be denial about it. If

1023
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: you want to understand how this promotion is suffering to

1024
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: a degree, they're a slave to a content format sure

1025
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: that cripples them, and they are trying to figure out

1026
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: ways to get around it. And they have some of

1027
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: that going for them, certainly to be clear, back the

1028
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: first show of the Year in January of this year

1029
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 1: with Usman and Paul Hughes as an example of getting

1030
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: around that. And by the way, just want to point out,

1031
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: look how good that show was.

1032
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: And that main event was a Fight of the Year content.

1033
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: It was a year contender. They were in a great venue.

1034
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how they can look at that

1035
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: event and be like, gee, do you think it makes

1036
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: more sense to go to a place now in this

1037
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: particular case, I think they were in cutter or Guitar

1038
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: and they're probably paid to be there. But it was

1039
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: a great venue, it was a great crowd, It was

1040
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: a signature main event with a card that was built

1041
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: below it, rather than being a slave to a tournament structure.

1042
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: But here is the central tension. Here's what is happening

1043
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: with PFL. We've often talked about how they posture almost

1044
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: as like in treating their company as like a financial

1045
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: asset rather than a fight promotion, and that's certainly been

1046
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: part of it. But in order to raise money from investors,

1047
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: it seems like they feel it that they have to

1048
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: have some kind of silly ass differentiator to the UFC. Aha,

1049
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: We're not just a UFC light we are a UFC competitor.

1050
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: We do things a little bit differently here. That's our

1051
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: value add And they essentially just try to gamify everything

1052
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: by creating, in this particular case, tournament systems for all

1053
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: of their weight classes. And then they have these long

1054
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: delays in the calendar and everything else.

1055
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: But what could they put her in the main event

1056
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: on a tournament card against somebody else to keep the

1057
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: chains moving.

1058
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: They certainly could, but then it would interfere with the

1059
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: rest of their plans. But the one I'm trying to

1060
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: make is what comes first in how they evaluate everything

1061
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: is getting the tournament's needs met. And then they try

1062
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: and piecemeal stuff on the back end, which is why

1063
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: guys are having long droughts where they're not competing, where

1064
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: they're finding out very late. No, this was obviously a

1065
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: bit of ahead of time, assuming that that date holds

1066
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: for July, again not a specific day, but you know,

1067
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: the summer or whatever that they can make it happen.

1068
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: But it's all something of an afterthought. Rather than having

1069
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: the freedom to build a card, put guys under it.

1070
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: Put ladies under it if they want to have, you know,

1071
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: one tournament fight here or whatever, some kind of brand differentiator,

1072
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: but then put Johnny Evlin at the top of the car,

1073
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: patchy mixed at the top of the car to go

1074
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: to ditch Oft. Rather than nimbly using that with the

1075
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: freedom to kind of write their future, they are constrained

1076
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: in this straight jacket of the tournament system. So they're

1077
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: caught between what do we do to raise money from

1078
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: investors because you're not raising it at the gate and

1079
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a dick, but that's obvious. Conversely,

1080
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: by going to a model that is venture capital funded,

1081
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: it constrains the ordinary things that they're able to do

1082
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: to make their roster stand out. Something at some point

1083
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: has to give Brian Campbell, and it should.

1084
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: Have given at the start of this year. And while

1085
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: they do deserve praise for changing the things that the

1086
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: fans were most complaining about, the ridiculous no elbows rule,

1087
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: changing this tournament format in a way that they think

1088
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: makes more sense to me, it only makes it more

1089
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: convoluted for half the money and you don't even get

1090
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: a championship at the end. It's one thing if you say, look,

1091
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: Patricio Pipple is an all time legend, but he's thirty seven,

1092
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: He's got a big belt er and that's just not

1093
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: going to meet our financial plan to pay that. That's

1094
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: one thing. But you let Aaron Pico go like they did,

1095
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: it's unforgivable. You make Patchy Mix sit there and tweet

1096
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: that he just wants to get recognized and get a

1097
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: fight when he might be the best fighter on palmfer

1098
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: Palm level. That they have unforgivable. You have new Normalgametolf

1099
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: and Hughes, but then you disappear for two months. I'm

1100
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: just saying, like they figured out some good things, like

1101
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: getting Paul Hughes back in the main event. Coming up

1102
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: great idea. But you can't have around with the Coda dischi.

1103
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: But that's like your that's your crown jewel of somebody

1104
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: to sell with and build upon. She had to go

1105
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: to this length.

1106
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: Once again, they're not building fight events. They're building a

1107
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: cop this is the building.

1108
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: Then you're gonna die or they're not building people.

1109
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: People think this is like a UFC specific criticism is

1110
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: absolutely not. With these big promotions that are trying to

1111
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: fill big content demands, they're building calendars. They are not

1112
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: building events, Whereas if they were building events, they would

1113
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: be able to sit back and go, wait a second,

1114
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: let's get Oospin back in rotation. To your point, let's

1115
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: get Dakota back and rotation. She would have already, dude,

1116
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: it's the fifth month of the year. Almost almost, she

1117
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: would have easily have fought by now. She would have

1118
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: easily a fought.

1119
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: You can put her against anybody and just put the

1120
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: PFL championship at stake, like actually declared champions. Don't give

1121
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: out belts on pay per views and in All Star

1122
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 2: Games they got fifteen belts BC.

1123
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: They don't generate money at the gate, they don't generate

1124
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: money on pay per view. They generate money and B

1125
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: to B sales or B two government sales and then

1126
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: venture capital. You have to satisfy that master too. This

1127
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: is the inherent contradiction in what they are trying to do.

1128
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: They have to serve a master who ultimately undercuts the product.

1129
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: Okay, is the master the amount of dates or is

1130
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 2: the master that it has to be the tournament format

1131
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: where we wouldn't get this money because if it's only

1132
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 2: about we have to fill the dates. They have smart

1133
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: people that can.

1134
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: Match make Yes, Mike, Mike knows what he's doing. Yes,

1135
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: we covered the.

1136
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: Beltsore end run on Showtime probably closer than anybody besides

1137
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: Josh Thompson and Big John Right. It was always matched

1138
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: very well. They took the resources they had and got

1139
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: the most out of them. Are you telling me they

1140
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: couldn't do that with these set PFL dates or are

1141
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: you saying that they can't get the money unless they

1142
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 2: push this gimmick of the tournament.

1143
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: I think that they can't. How are they going to

1144
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: generate money if they've spent all this time not building

1145
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: an audience.

1146
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: By taking the three or four or five names that

1147
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 2: matter and pushing the shit out of them and keeping

1148
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: them as active as possible. They're doing the exact opposite,

1149
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: They're inactive.

1150
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the.

1151
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: Worst thing you can do.

1152
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: Again, what I think that they're doing is trying to

1153
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: hold on to a business model that ultimately undercuts their

1154
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: ability to do the thing that matters most for a

1155
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: fight promotion, which is find develop and find and develop

1156
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: stars and then attract audiences as a consequence. And that

1157
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: system that they've built simply it gets you part of

1158
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: the way there, and then it doesn't allow you to

1159
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: capitalize on it. One more time. I'm just gonna say this.

1160
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: I found it in my email, like maybe before I

1161
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: went on vacation. I remember when Bjorn Rebnez Bellator sent

1162
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: out an email being like, hey, if you fought in

1163
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 1: a previous tournament, you don't have to fight in tournaments anymore.

1164
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: We're gonna have our tournament system and then the post

1165
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: tournament pool of contenders whatever the fuck name they gave

1166
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: for it. And he lost his job about a week later,

1167
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: like they realized you had to scrap that system completely,

1168
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: and the Belt obviously fell in harder times eventually, anyway,

1169
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's the nature of Also, we

1170
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: should just say, the elephant in the room here. I

1171
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: don't know even if they made those changes that it

1172
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: would save them. We should, we should be very clear

1173
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: about that. But at the same time, for sure, this

1174
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: way not being able to maximize your hottest talents, I

1175
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: don't know how that serves you long term.

1176
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: They saved it by making that announcement that we showed,

1177
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: But you don't have an opponent, you don't even have

1178
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: the terms like is it for the PFL title? Like

1179
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: couldn't you fix both masters by each of these tournament

1180
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: cards having a main event that's separate where your actual

1181
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: champion is defending. Give Johnny ebblin the middleweight belt and

1182
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: have him headline the first one. Make Dakota Ditscheva defend

1183
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: the one five title the second Usman and Maga mettof

1184
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: back in the next, on and on and on, patchy mix, Okay,

1185
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: now he's our bandam wait champion starting today. Shouldn't you

1186
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: do that? And then say, look, also, these tournament cards

1187
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: will produce the next title challenger at.

1188
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: The end of the year.

1189
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: That's exactly how you can you can serve both masters.

1190
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: I don't want it to be all negativity and hate,

1191
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: but I have one more negative thing. Let's watch this

1192
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: meme here that somebody put together. Look, is this true?

1193
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: Is this the coda ditch of on the PFL.

1194
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: That's a nice car.

1195
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: That's a nice car in that double wide trailer there.

1196
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: I think that that's a I mean, obviously it's a

1197
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: little overstated.

1198
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: But will they be able to keep her happiest? The

1199
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: real question, will they be able to keep her there?

1200
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: Okay, let me let me ready. Here we go, Here

1201
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: we go. I'm going to look into the future. Yes,

1202
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: And I'm going to use the fact that I've been

1203
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: watching MMA for a very long time to understand and

1204
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: see if I can look into my crystal ball here

1205
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, and in my crystal ball, I see it. Okay, So,

1206
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: so it's a I'm saying, it's a question of if

1207
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: not when she goes to UFC. Sorry, it's a question

1208
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: of when not if she goes to UFC. Now, that

1209
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: could be a couple of years, it could be a

1210
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: little while. I don't know how that's going to work.

1211
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: Are you're saying without saying that people like us who

1212
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: feel like we're smart in the MMA business and we're

1213
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: giving PFL free advice that even if Don Davis believed

1214
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 2: our free advice, his key to survival is only going

1215
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: this tournament mode. So even if they lose her, it

1216
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: doesn't matter because, as you would say, the trains are

1217
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: still going to leave on time. We're going to have

1218
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: a tournament for every one card, and that's our only

1219
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: way to survive financially.

1220
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying that they're already in a very difficult environment

1221
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: where if one dominant firm has a grip on relevancy

1222
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: and you have no real way to wrestle that away

1223
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: from them, you have to be really, really on your

1224
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: on your game to have any chance of survival, and

1225
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: they've handcuffed themselves to a content and program schedule that

1226
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: won't allow them to do that. What is supposed to

1227
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: be the reason that I think that they're going to

1228
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: be around for a few more years other than and

1229
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: they could continue to get money from venture capitalists. But

1230
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: short of that, I like someone explained to me what

1231
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: the math is called, Darren Owen.

1232
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: Just tip, just merge the GFL, the PFL, eagle FCMMA.

1233
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: What like, Here's what I'll say about this man. If

1234
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: you're I mean, you know, I know a lot of

1235
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: UFC fighters complain they don't get enough fights, and certainly

1236
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: that can be true in certain cases. Yes, yes, they so, yeah,

1237
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'll talk to someone, they'll be like, they're

1238
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: happy that they get the two that they get a year,

1239
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: but a lot of them want three. Sometimes they even

1240
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: want four. And that's where you get that that two

1241
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: to three is where you see not a lot of

1242
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: belly aching, but they would prefer it to be a

1243
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: little more active. But then I would say, you know,

1244
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: like look at the market outside of it. I mean

1245
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: there's yes, if you're on the regional show, you know,

1246
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: you can get seven fights in the year. It's very

1247
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: very easy to get booked. But there's not much money

1248
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: in that. Uh, it's these middling ones that are supposed

1249
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: to be able to deliver for some of these people.

1250
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: And with GFL or Bell Toork Gone one significantly producing

1251
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: their MMA footprint, pfl's time is limited and GFL, like

1252
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: a fart in the wind, just gone with the.

1253
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: Brig all right. PFL did have their third tournament card

1254
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: at Universal Studios in Orlando. I'm not even gonna bring

1255
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: up Ariel taken down Donald for Twitter. He did kind

1256
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: of he did, kind of Scottie Pippa.

1257
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: The guy fucking walked into it. I know why was

1258
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: he because by the way he went after Damon Martin

1259
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: and then called him a clown and then edited his.

1260
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: Tweets and then it took seventeen times.

1261
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he took that part out and linked.

1262
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: Brother.

1263
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, do you like okay? You want to

1264
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: go after the media because you think that they're mean

1265
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: to you? Right, That's what's happening here. He wants to

1266
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: go after the media because he thinks they're wrong and

1267
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: he thinks they're mean. How the fuck is that gonna

1268
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: fix your problems? Done?

1269
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: Done?

1270
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: We want you to succeed, Hey, don put the put

1271
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: the camera on me. Done, we want you to succeed.

1272
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: We fucking want more business. That's fun to watch. I

1273
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: love Strike Force. I had a great time covering bullet

1274
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: to or what the hell is going on here?

1275
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: All right?

1276
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: PFL three happened Friday night, Universal Studios, Orlando. In that

1277
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: main event in the Middleway tournament Fabby and Edwards brother right,

1278
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: brother of Fabian babian I, brother of Lean. He took

1279
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: out a guy we know well, Impa kasangan A in

1280
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: round two. Pretty pretty impressive t KO. Yeah, are you

1281
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: looking at Fabian as a favorite in this tournament now?

1282
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: Not looking that deep?

1283
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, he doesn't typically get finishes, and

1284
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: that was that was pretty good for him. Also, Impa is,

1285
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, not the best fighter in the world, but

1286
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: a good test for most people. And he made a run.

1287
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: Was it?

1288
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: Last year?

1289
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: He made a killer he won the won of the

1290
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: million dollar tournament. When did he win one or two

1291
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: of attorneys?

1292
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 6: I think one he won one he lost by knockout

1293
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 6: last year.

1294
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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Yeah, but he made some He's

1295
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: made good money. He's made good money, you know, certainly

1296
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: given the state of the game. He occupies in the

1297
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: plays in the game anyway. But Edwards, yeah, this was

1298
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: a nice win for him, one of the better ones

1299
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: he's had in his career. For sure. He looked good

1300
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: doing it, So we'll see what happens.

1301
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: I did enjoy that for him. Also in that Cole

1302
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: main event. This is worth talking about. We're in the

1303
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: lightweight division in Dagistan's Goadzi Rabotanov. I had forgotten that

1304
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: he had that great belatour run and then you look

1305
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: at his page eleven and oh since twenty twenty, after

1306
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: taking care of former UFC fighter Mark J. Casey in

1307
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: thirty two seconds to make a huge statement about his

1308
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: chances in this tournament and maybe being one of the

1309
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,959
Speaker 2: bigger hammers. I mean, look in eleven fight win streak

1310
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: against some of the names. When you do look back

1311
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: over the different federations that he's done it against. We

1312
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: never talk about him, should we?

1313
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: We never talk about him because he was fighting guys

1314
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: with no Wikipedia entries in Belatore.

1315
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: For a long time, decent guys, right.

1316
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: I didn't say they were bad fighters, they just were

1317
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: not heralded. He was not winning heralded contests against big

1318
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: name opponents. But now you're beginning to see him turn

1319
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: that up. How old is he? Let me see here

1320
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: very quickly. Robodanov is thirty one, so he's also in

1321
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: this prime now smack in the middle of it. Wins

1322
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: over Brent Primis, finishing him off in the third round.

1323
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: Then Mark J. Casey Aaron the first looking to your point,

1324
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: fucking awesome doing it, dude. Robodanov is ready to make

1325
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: a move in this division. Take note, long Islan Luke,

1326
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: your hardcore.

1327
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Speaker 2: Did you see anything else on this card that we

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00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: should be talking about.

1329
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 7: I got a shout out Aaron Jeffrey, who was like

1330
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 7: the first fighter, the first cashed him as an underdog

1331
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 7: plus one eighty, so that was nice. Josh Silvera going

1332
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 7: over two and a half, that was also plus. There's

1333
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 7: some good bets on this card.

1334
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: You're only speaking from a gambling standpoint.

1335
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: Apparently, Dalton Rosta to beating Sada, former champion. Yeah, yeah,

1336
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: Dalton Rosta, first team all body You ever seen him? Yes,

1337
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: looks like fucking he man when he walks out there.

1338
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: He got a nice submission victory. By the way, another

1339
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: Bellatoor over PFL Win Belatore.

1340
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: Had DoD They own PFL.

1341
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you about Scott Cooker, like there's there's good

1342
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: things about Hi, there's bad things about him. Theirs successes,

1343
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: he's had a promoter, there's some failures, but that dude's

1344
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: ability over the course of time to develop quality talent

1345
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: and from little places that you never imagined. You gotta

1346
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: give him some credit. He's done really well. I remember

1347
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: when the Shrike Force roster came over, people were like,

1348
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: how good are they going to be? And then they

1349
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: all end up becoming champions. You're like, pretty fucking good.

1350
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: That more reason to pay the bellatour guys and get

1351
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: him back.

1352
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: Also, how about this we always think of like the

1353
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: Kiwi fighters and the Aussie fighters is like Australians and

1354
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't talk about any of the

1355
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: ones outside of them. JJ Wilson, JJ Wilson beating Mads Burnell.

1356
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: Mads Burnell solid the UFC very good veterans, stream Cuture

1357
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: stream Coatur. JJ Wilson proper fucked him up. Yeah, like

1358
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: JJ Wilson another belatore guy. Now also Mas was a

1359
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: bell tour guy too. But be on the lookout one

1360
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: of these Keiwi guys that you don't ever pay attention

1361
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: to that because they doesn't fight the UFC, very very

1362
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: good young talent.

1363
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: The coach Jonathan Coachman love that they're using him on this.

1364
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: Brother the color got wiped out.

1365
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean we're kind of seeing the same

1366
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: guys in these tournaments.

1367
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Speaker 6: Year after he's lost like five of his last six.

1368
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: Now, hey, hey, he had.

1369
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: A run during the pandemic.

1370
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Speaker 1: Oka, he had a run during the pandemic. And you know,

1371
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: you got to give that guy some credit. He shows

1372
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: up to fight.

1373
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 7: He was funny as soon as he You know, you

1374
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 7: beat the Pettis and the Jeremy Stevens of the world,

1375
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 7: and then you just.

1376
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: Follow forgot that he beat Anthony Pettis, who was the

1377
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: boxing prospect he wiped out.

1378
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: I forgot that too, but I remember the fight distinctly.

1379
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, because some guy they were like they burnt. Oh

1380
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: it was some former MMA fighter.

1381
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: Who did you fight Max Halloween?

1382
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: He bought Max Holloway, he got whooped on. Now now

1383
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: I need to know who was the boxing guy who

1384
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: he wiped out during the pandemic. Let me see here.

1385
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here we go. So when was that twenty twenty? Yes?

1386
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: Uh?

1387
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: Was it David Kaminski?

1388
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 8: No?

1389
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: No, no, because it was in.

1390
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: Maybe could have been late. It could have been early

1391
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: twenty one too. I mean he had that run where

1392
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: he was winning fights. He shouldn't have ever than they

1393
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: should be featuring.

1394
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty he beat uh Quaishan Toler. I don't

1395
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: think it's that one. Raymond Guhardo, I don't remember. I

1396
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: don't think it was that one, remember, And then it

1397
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: was one in June twenty twenty was David Kaminski That

1398
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: could be it, And the other one was larent Nelson.

1399
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't think on Maurice Williams and he lost four

1400
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: in a row after that.

1401
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: All right, we're deep down a rabbit hole. Let's let's

1402
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 2: pull it all right, let's pull it back in. Hey,

1403
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: let's go to topic number three. Jake Paul a masterful

1404
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: promoter in his own right with most valuable promotions and

1405
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 2: also he boxes. Did you know that? But coming off

1406
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: of his one sided victory over a fifty eight year

1407
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: old Mike Tyson, we weren't waiting to see who the

1408
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: next big name would be for Jake. Yes, he tried

1409
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: with Canelo and Turkey. Ali Sheikh intervened. Yes, he seemed

1410
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 2: to try with Tank Davis fres weird as that fight is,

1411
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: but interesting, But also could they even make it? That

1412
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: didn't happen despite their intentions. Now we have the details

1413
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: of the announcement. It'll be June twenty eighth, It'll be

1414
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: at the Honda Center in Anaheim, California. And by the way,

1415
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: it's going to go head to head with whatever International

1416
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: Fight Week in UFC three seventeen has to offer. The

1417
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: opponent former middleweight world title holder Julio Saysar Chavez Junior

1418
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: so Luke. Given the public's continued demand of fight a

1419
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: real fighter. This accomplishes that like on paper, But we

1420
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: do have to bring up the brutal fact. Chaves is

1421
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: now thirty nine. He's just eight and six since twenty twelve.

1422
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: He lost to Anderson Silva straight up in twenty twenty one.

1423
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: He fought life and death with Uriah Hall last year

1424
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: on a Jake Paul undercard. He's also had major drug

1425
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: and mental health challenges and was I believe committed within

1426
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: the last year and concerns from his significant other that

1427
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 2: that he would take his own life. What's the single

1428
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: best word, honestly to describe this matchup, d OA. It

1429
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't it have been great like three years ago before

1430
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: I see there was Anderson fight was twenty twenty one,

1431
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: if it was like after the Woodley fights and then

1432
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 2: he stepped up to the Chavis former title holder level.

1433
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, okay, so let's let's let's let's try

1434
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: and let me just tell you where my head is

1435
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: out on this one. BC. If we are talking about

1436
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: Jake Paul the promoter and what he represents for boxing,

1437
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: let me say this, Jake Paul and what he's done

1438
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: for women's boxing is more than I've seen any other promoter.

1439
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 2: They make headlines almost daily.

1440
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: I mean Salida Promotions does a lot obviously with Clarissa Shields,

1441
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: and they've been on They've been supporting Katie Taylor for sure.

1442
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: For sure, there's been some other ones that I don't

1443
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: want to forget that, there's other ones that I've done it.

1444
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: But like in a short amount of time, the names

1445
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: he's signing, the fights, he's trying to make the platform

1446
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: that these fights are going on, because you remember, so

1447
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Katie Taylor and Manisano three in July,

1448
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: right so Netflix, Netflix, Yes, yes, And by the way,

1449
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: also like what he's done for American boxing. We should

1450
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: answer a question, Oh, is Jake Paul bad for boxing?

1451
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: No?

1452
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not in terms of getting relevant. When I

1453
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: say relevant, I mean in terms of pop culture relevant

1454
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: in pop culture, making pop culture moments. He's achieved that

1455
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: for American boxing. He's trying to bring fights home.

1456
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: For the most part, he's been on like every network,

1457
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: he's been on every network. Fight he works with other promoter, He's.

1458
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: Signing women in ways that like again just many most

1459
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: other promoters are not doing. Like when it comes to

1460
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: what he's done for boxing in that sense and as

1461
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: an energizing force as a promoter. Two thumbs up for me.

1462
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: For Jake Paul, I give him real credit. And I'm

1463
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: gonna say this with total sincerity. I'm grateful that he's here.

1464
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean that, I mean that absolutely. It is great

1465
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: that a young guy who's got big dreams, big ambitions,

1466
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: big dollars, balls too big kohonas and is trying stuff

1467
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: as a promoter and as a force in this game

1468
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: is exactly what the game needs right now. I'm grateful

1469
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: for it. I mean that's total sincerity. But who gives

1470
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: a fuck about this fight? Seriously, I'm not even trying

1471
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: like this is what I'm trying to tell to people, Dude,

1472
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: what is the argument for watching another fight? That means nothing?

1473
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: They are at best, at best boring, these Jake Paul fights.

1474
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: They are at best boring and at worst I'm not

1475
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: gonna say a scam in the sense of like you

1476
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: know it's it's fixed or something, but you feel dirty

1477
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: when it's over. What is the argument for watching that? Brian?

1478
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: No, Look, this is name only your buying chov is

1479
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: his name, But like anyone with half a clue could

1480
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: read off the same stats I did, or at least

1481
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 2: know that this guy's damage goods Now in some degree,

1482
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: he has to be damaged goods for this fight to

1483
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: make sense, Like we get what this is all about.

1484
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: He's just super damaged. So I ask you, from both

1485
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 2: a storyline standpoint and even from a necessity standpoint, if

1486
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: this was Tommy Fury and they seem to be talking

1487
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: over Twitter and arguing if this was the rematch, Jake's

1488
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 2: only lost, the only time Jake fought a quote unquote

1489
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: real fighter, even though Tommy's kind of a reality star

1490
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: turn fighter. Would that have been fine? Would that have

1491
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: been okay? You're going back to try to right the

1492
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: wrong of your split decision. Lost the only loss of

1493
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: year career.

1494
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: That would be bad boxing, but it would at least

1495
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: be a situation in my mind that you could expect

1496
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: to be reasonably competitive for where he's at. And I'm

1497
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: not trying to diminish his journey as a boxer. What

1498
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is he can fight whoever he

1499
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: wants to fight, and again, as a promotional entity, I'm

1500
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: grateful for his presence. Make the argument as a fight fan,

1501
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: somebody who watches fights for a living or spends any

1502
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: If you're just a fan, you don't work in the industry.

1503
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: Somebody who spends a lot of their time and their

1504
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: money paying for stuff like this. What is the fucking argument?

1505
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: We have seen this movie before. He's made a lot

1506
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: of progress, but is ultimately not that great, and he's

1507
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: taking on another hand picked opponent who is a corpse

1508
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: of relative to what.

1509
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: He wants in, a history of quitting, a history a

1510
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: history of.

1511
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: Quitting, who's clearly looking for a payday, who clearly has

1512
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: had troubled times.

1513
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 2: Is in good shape?

1514
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: Fine, fine, Fine, I'm sure he's in good shape. What

1515
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: is the argument about why that is must see TV?

1516
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: It's the opposite of that. I can't do another fucking

1517
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: Jake Paul fight cycle where I'm expected to launder what

1518
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: he's doing with like this narrative of you know, up

1519
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: from the bootstraps. I'm trying my best, dude, I don't

1520
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: give a fuck anymore.

1521
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. If the Tyson fight didn't just happen,

1522
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: I think we would be more forgiving on this. We

1523
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: would go, Okay, you're cherry picking a name, but at

1524
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 2: least it's a name, it's a former chan dude. Sense No, No,

1525
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: the Cruiser fight no. I think coming off of the

1526
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: Tyson fight where that was clearly like no, almost pro

1527
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: wrestling of like, let's make this money together. This you

1528
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: can't accept, we can't accept this.

1529
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,919
Speaker 1: After the Mike Perry fight, I was like, I can't

1530
01:06:58,920 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: do this here yet.

1531
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: From an entertainment standpoint, it's like.

1532
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: Did he beat up Mike Perry? Was it? You know,

1533
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: one side in that sense, but like, this is what

1534
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting at. In order to make it exciting, he's

1535
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: got to be have like a like, you know, total

1536
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: dominance over a guy. And on the other hand, he

1537
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: had total dominance over Mike, but he did he had mercy,

1538
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: which was like the worst of all worlds.

1539
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: This was Casi.

1540
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: Would you have cared?

1541
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: That's like the one non traditional boxing opponent that people

1542
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: seem to.

1543
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: Again, it's a situation where like is that for me?

1544
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: Probably not, But I think that's a better matchup in

1545
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: terms of skill level, and I think Jake beats him

1546
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: by the way from what I can tell anyway, But

1547
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: just like asking me to spend another media cycle, what

1548
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: are Jake's chances how good is he. This is kabookie

1549
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: fucking theater. Let me bring it. It's all one less thing.

1550
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: It's all again. I'm not saying that the I want

1551
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: to be clear. I'm not arguing that the result is

1552
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: they figured out ahead of time. That's not what I'm saying.

1553
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: But you know, in picking an opponent this languid and

1554
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: picking an opponent this ready to be picked off, you

1555
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: know they're setting up an obvious outcome here. Why am

1556
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: I supposed to dignify that anymore? I've seen this movie already.

1557
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit anymore.

1558
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm not far from that. By the way, let's hear

1559
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna try to argue and sell this, and one

1560
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: of those somebodies is a big key to the storyline.

1561
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: This is a co promotion with Oscar de la Hoya

1562
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: and Golden Boyd Promotions. It will be a design pay

1563
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: per view, not a Netflix show, but still should drive

1564
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,799
Speaker 2: some demand and to help it from a actual boxing

1565
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 2: percent perspective, I've got to actually applaud them. The Coleman

1566
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: events pretty damn awesome. Gilberto Zerto Ramirez, your unified cruiserweight Champion,

1567
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: will defend his WBO and WBA titles against two time

1568
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: former champion Uniel Dordicos cool Ranch himself. That's a hardcore

1569
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 2: fight fan only I get that, but that's a pretty

1570
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: badass actual fight. So, Luke, am I trying to connect

1571
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: too many tea leaves? When I say, if Jake was

1572
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: recently arguing to try to fight Canelo, which he was,

1573
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 2: then he was publicly campaigning for Anthony Joshua, which he was,

1574
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 2: you could say to yourself, Okay, Jake's future is probably

1575
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: more in promoting that it is fighting. This would be

1576
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: at least him cashing himself out the biggest way possible.

1577
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: If he couldn't get aj and he couldn't get Canelo

1578
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: and couldn't get Tank. Are they setting up for if

1579
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 2: Jake beats Silva and Zerdo defends in the co main

1580
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: event Jake beats, that Jakes would fight I'm sorry Jake Chavez,

1581
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: that Jake would fight Zerdo Ramirez for the unified cruiserweight title,

1582
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 2: and I guess, in a sense cash himself out. But

1583
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: also take the chance that people have been criticizing him

1584
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: for so long, even though he only has eleven or

1585
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 2: twelve fights, Take that chance of, like I'm gonna try

1586
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 2: to be legit is that where we're headed.

1587
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't think we should ever assume that until he

1588
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: gives you a reason to assume that, And to this

1589
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: point he's given you absolutely no reason to assume that.

1590
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to like, oh, look the other way on

1591
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: this fight and then the next fight, and then the

1592
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: next fight and then the next fight, because Aha, there's

1593
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: a nobility to the greater journey, And to the point

1594
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: you raised BC, perhaps there is. Perhaps by the way

1595
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: Zerdo fight would be a very real fight in fact,

1596
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: that would be actually worried about Jake Paul In that case.

1597
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zerdo would be favored heavily to would probably fuck

1598
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: him up.

1599
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: But but but there would be real nobility in that fire.

1600
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: And there'd be entry intrigued to see Jake try to

1601
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: hundred percent.

1602
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: So if I'm not gonna say he won't do that,

1603
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: bec but until he actually takes a meaningful step in

1604
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: that direction, to me, all of this is just a

1605
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: big circle he's going in. Or you're just trying to

1606
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: satisfy the same demands you were trying to satisfy the

1607
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: last time. The easiest opponent with the biggest name that

1608
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: you can you know, there's a very little chance they

1609
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 1: can do anything to you. Why am I supposed to

1610
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 1: care about that? Why am I supposed to care about

1611
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: an opponent who can't do shit?

1612
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: Ask De la Hoya is here to tell you why.

1613
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: He is the co promoter of this event, and he

1614
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: talked to Marco's Vegas to Fight Up TV about why

1615
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: this fight matters.

1616
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 11: So imagine if Jake Paul can hurt or even wobble

1617
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 11: Chivis Junior, it's something that Connelo didn't do or couldn't do.

1618
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 11: So Jake Paul who goes Chives Junior. It's a real fight.

1619
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 11: You know, people keep talking about Jake Paul while he's

1620
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 11: not a real fighter this and that. While he's fighting

1621
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 11: a real fighter now and who does our chive is, Julie.

1622
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good test for both guys.

1623
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 11: Obviously, Jake Paul, he's a masterclass promoter and what he does,

1624
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 11: he's been doing some great things. I mean, Mike Tyson,

1625
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 11: sixty million people, uh fighting Judos Sesar Davis Junior, who

1626
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 11: when he trains, when he gets in shape, when he's focused,

1627
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 11: he will be dangerous for anybody. Look, Connelo Oliver is

1628
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 11: fought Judosesar Charvis Junior.

1629
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 2: We promoted that fight many years ago. They didn't knock

1630
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 2: him out, couldn't hurt him.

1631
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 11: So imagine if Jake Paul can hurt or even wobble

1632
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 11: Chavis Junior. It's something that Connelo didn't do or couldn't do.

1633
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 2: So I know that's the hook for the promotion, but

1634
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: that's fricking laughable. I'm not gonna say there's not intrigue.

1635
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: See Jello beat him one twenty one o nine, I know, and.

1636
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: Chavis was weight drained and he didn't even try. I

1637
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: know he didn't get finished, but he didn't even try,

1638
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 2: Like you know, he was just there to collock the paycheck.

1639
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: It's laughable what Oscar's doing. But as Oscar says, you

1640
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 2: can talk shit as long as you're telling the truth.

1641
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: He wasn't telling the truth there, Luke, there is some

1642
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 2: intrigue by the way, to see what Paul look like

1643
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: against Shaves. But did you saw Shaves against you rye

1644
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: Halt last year? Dude, Like no, he's he's on this

1645
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: YouTube level. So I mean, like there is a world

1646
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 2: where this actually is oddly competitive, and that'd be bad

1647
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 2: for Jake in a lot of ways, But I don't

1648
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: think there's a world that unless it's a war and

1649
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: Jake survives and knocks him out late triumphantly, where Jake

1650
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: actually proves what he's setting out to do right, or

1651
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 2: do you think Jake doesn't even care about that it's

1652
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: only about money on this fight.

1653
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: I think Jake has been very clear that this is

1654
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: principally about getting money for him.

1655
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: And not so much about proving.

1656
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: Look, I'd be a real which is why it's like, again,

1657
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 1: if people want to watch it, if people want to

1658
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: pay for it, fine, I like, do whatever makes you happy.

1659
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: But it's just as like I get the point you made,

1660
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: just get made these questions.

1661
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: See shaves. Let's see the shape that he is in.

1662
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: I did see him ringside at the tank Roach fight,

1663
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: and he looked surprisingly like very thin and in healthy

1664
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: at least. But you know, he's thirty nine, he's plotting,

1665
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: he's slow. He does have a certain level of technique.

1666
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 2: But if Anderson Silva was able to to outclass a

1667
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: better version of that, and then Jake had a competitive

1668
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: fight with Anderson, I guess maybe this could be entertaining

1669
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: at best, but it's not.

1670
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: There's a possibility where it could. But it's just you

1671
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself why. Just ask yourself, Okay, b see,

1672
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: let me ask you why is Jake Paul making this fight?

1673
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: Answer that question is, honestly, why did he make this fight? Money?

1674
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 2: Stay busy? And to further the argument that if he

1675
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: is going to fight somebody like a zerdo next, Look,

1676
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: I just beat a former champion at least still be

1677
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 2: able to say that.

1678
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: Okay, but that's all like what you're saying, it's right,

1679
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: You're just basically arguing he's trying to get an opponent

1680
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: that has something in the line item of his resume

1681
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: that he then can then claim for some kind of

1682
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: again greater nobility cause. And I'm like, I don't know

1683
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: that this leads to a greater nobility.

1684
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: Too bad that he didn't get this a couple of

1685
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: years ago, where it actually could have mattered to a

1686
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: certain degree in his story arc. But we don't have

1687
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: to play it. But he tweeted about Jake did about

1688
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: this fight, and he got community noted for trying to

1689
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: say that, for trying to say that the Jake would say,

1690
01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: five years ago, I stepped in the ring. He had

1691
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: you know, I had a good story about stepping up

1692
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: against a real former champion and selling the fight. But

1693
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 2: I think we have the community. Note here where they

1694
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 2: say Jake's claim of Canelo who Canelo could barely be?

1695
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: As you said earlier, Canelo dominated Chavez one twenty to

1696
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 2: one away on all three scorecards in a real huhm

1697
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 2: pay per view event that was what May of twenty seventeen.

1698
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: I believe, yeah, twenty yeah, yeah, again. I'm glad. I'm

1699
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: glad you Paul's a promoter, but I've seen too many

1700
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: bad Jake Paul fights to get excited about the next one.

1701
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, sorry, thank.

1702
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 2: You very much. Let's go to top before we get

1703
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: to topic number four. Luke, we have fantastic partners that

1704
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: we should be talking to.

1705
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we staly do, okay.

1706
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: And when I'm talking about that, I'm talking about talking

1707
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: about I'm talking about our friends over at say it, Luke,

1708
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: Gold Belly, Gold Belly, That's what I'm talking about, Luke.

1709
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 7: What what?

1710
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: Luke?

1711
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: Why don't you talk about it? While I find this?

1712
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: Well, gold Belly, Here's how it works. It's a fantastic company.

1713
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: Let's say you wanted some kind of delicacy, some kind

1714
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 1: of special deep disc peacha from Chicago, some kind of

1715
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Speaker 2: our countdown of topics here we slide gingerly here into

1786
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Speaker 2: number four. Hey, big time boxing card got announced by

1787
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 2: Mike Coppinger of The Ring, who certainly probably had great

1788
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: intel because Turkey Ala Sheik's Ring magazine series, which will

1789
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: debut this weekend, by the way, with that Connor Benchris

1790
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 2: Ubank fight in London and then also May second on

1791
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 2: Friday in Times Square, we get that huge Ryan Garcia

1792
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 2: supercar with Devin Haney so many other big names, But

1793
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: how about this one night after Katie Taylor and Amanda

1794
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 2: Serano will fight on Netflix in New York's Madison Square

1795
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: Garden in their historic trilogy. Turkey Alashik will have a

1796
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: date a show the following night, Saturday Night, Saturday Night,

1797
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 2: July twelfth, exclusively on his Zone, although it has not

1798
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 2: been decided to defuly be a pay per viewer not

1799
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 2: but it will be at quote an iconic location still

1800
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 2: to be determined, and the event will coincide with the

1801
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 2: launch of Turkey's new Inside the Ring TV show. Let's

1802
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: put up the card here and break down the matchups

1803
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 2: and get Luke's reaction to this. In that main event,

1804
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 2: Edgar Berlanga will take on Hamzas Shiraz, who is moving

1805
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 2: up tow one hundred and sixty eight pounds and has

1806
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: a new trainer, Andy Lee. After that controversial draw with

1807
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: Carlos Damis and Shakhor Stevenson, after originally in recent weeks

1808
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 2: being on the outside and accusing Turkey of not paying

1809
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 2: up what he promised, he will get that fight against

1810
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 2: this WBC lightweight title mandatory Williams of Beta. And you

1811
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 2: have PBC's Alberto Poeo who will defend his title in

1812
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 2: the WBC at one forty against former champions Sabril Mattias.

1813
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: That's a hell of a fight right there. And how

1814
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 2: about David Morrell Junior of PBC Fame. His first fight

1815
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: since the pay per view loss to David Benavitez in January,

1816
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: he will take on Imam Katiev, who is a ten

1817
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: and zero slugger from Russia. Luke, here's the deal. Three

1818
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 2: fights into this ring magazine series, which is presumably, according

1819
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 2: to Turkey, paid for out of his private equity and

1820
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 2: not connected to riodd Sisson or TKO. At the moment,

1821
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: what should the fan response be for what these ring

1822
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 2: magazine cards are providing in terms of matchmaking and value.

1823
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: Up to this point, it seems to me that these

1824
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: are quite good. These are not main events with bullshit

1825
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: behind it. They are cards. They are real cards. As

1826
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: you indicated in the Connor. The Connor Ben and Chris

1827
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: you Bank is a little thinner relatively speaking.

1828
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: Huge grudge match also focused on the UK.

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01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: Exactly, and it's the first they're kind of you know,

1830
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: rolling it up. But to the point you raised the

1831
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: one in Times Square is three good fights. That sets

1832
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: up potential for more, right, because you have Hany and

1833
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: you have Ryan and also you got kind of Rollly

1834
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: hanging out there Will Rolling and Ryan in the same fight,

1835
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: but you know, you have different winners and different permutations

1836
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 1: that it makes it possible. So it's not just like

1837
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: you're burning something and you get nothing out of it

1838
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,560
Speaker 1: and then you have this one which is nothing but

1839
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: great fights. Now, you couldn't nitpick Brian Campbell. You couldn't nitpick.

1840
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: You could argue should shakhor Stephenson Tiams paid to be

1841
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: the main event? I agree with you, as it's the

1842
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: more important fight, but they might be Well, the thing is,

1843
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they do that? Are they borrowing? Already? The

1844
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: UFC model of the heavier fight goes up top.

1845
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: Now I'll tell you what I think it is.

1846
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think of this?

1847
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 2: Sharaz is a big Turkey fighter. Do you remember Ali

1848
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 2: Sheik controversially went in his corner and the Damas fight

1849
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: gave the scoring or what he thought the scoring was

1850
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: in that position. H That was a tough fight for

1851
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: him against the Damas at one sixty for the title

1852
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 2: because it showed his limitations. Now he's moving up to

1853
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: sixty eight, He's got a new trainer and Andy Lee.

1854
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot of expectations and the inside sort of

1855
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 2: rumor is if he wins this fight against Berlanga, who

1856
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: is a star. You got to give him that right,

1857
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 2: whether you love him or hate him. He could be

1858
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 2: a next opponent for Canelo Alvarez, who, by the way,

1859
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 2: has four fights locked up with Turkey. The first we

1860
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: expect to be Terrence Crawford this fall to kick off

1861
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,879
Speaker 2: the TKO, but what if it was Canelo against Shiraz

1862
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: next year? Either way either way. But look, a big

1863
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: part of this is we weren't sure what Turkey's next

1864
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 2: few cards after what this may second one would be

1865
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 2: given that he's announced the partnership with TKO and now

1866
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: he's pulling back the PBC. He put out a picture

1867
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: with him in Louis to Quibus Junior, so he's working

1868
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 2: with more people, which is good to see, certainly. But

1869
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: the interesting development here is that Shakhur Stephenson was on

1870
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: the outs and then he put out this tweet which

1871
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: seems to change the narrative. He said, excited about my

1872
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: next fight. It was a misunderstanding between Turkey and the team.

1873
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: My apologies on my part for overreacting. Can I read

1874
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 2: the original Let's work Turkey. What's the original tweet?

1875
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 1: The one he put out that probably caused the problem. Yes,

1876
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: he put out a so de la Hoya basically said,

1877
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: Shaquer's ducking So Shaker quote tweets it and writes, is

1878
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,799
Speaker 1: that what they told you talking to Dala Hoya, Turkey

1879
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: promised me a number and now he's going way back

1880
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: on that number that he promised me and sending his

1881
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: towel boys. We talked about this now again. I think

1882
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 1: that meant like Erond got children, okay, sending his towel

1883
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: boys to run me the info instead of telling me

1884
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 1: straight up what he's trying to do. I don't bow

1885
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: down to nobody, mister de la Hoya, Now, let's negotiate.

1886
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: That was the one that I'm defiant and all of

1887
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: a sudden not defined. I mean, here's what I think

1888
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: is happening.

1889
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: Well, let me let me add the one wrinkle to

1890
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 2: this before you react.

1891
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: Sure.

1892
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: The big news associated with this is that Stevenson was

1893
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 2: promoted by Eddie hern and Matrium Sport. There was an

1894
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: understanding that there was one to two fights left on

1895
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: the deal. According to Dan Rayfield, Fight Freaks you unite

1896
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 2: in a few other outlets, They're now split. Eddie Hearner

1897
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: is no longer promoting Shakhor Shakur and manager James Princess

1898
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 2: called Lou Debella to be sort of a one off

1899
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 2: promoter for this event, and then Shakur would be a

1900
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: free agent. Then you got people like Rick Laser, who

1901
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 2: puts a lot of misinformation out there, did tweet out

1902
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: that Eddie Hearn is officially on the outs with Turkey,

1903
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 2: which is interesting. That adds to this whole thing with

1904
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: your core.

1905
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. I mean here's what I think. Well,

1906
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: it's not just with your corp. It's like, what Turkey

1907
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: is trying to do? Are these cards reasonably well matched?

1908
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: Is he pulling from a lot of different parts of

1909
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: the talent pool to make that? Are some of these

1910
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 1: other actors operating It seems like in good faith to

1911
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: make the best cards available. Sure, but let's just be

1912
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: honest about what's happening here. Turkey is probably trying to

1913
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: line up as much talent as he can with as

1914
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 1: much ease in the future to serve his business interest

1915
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 1: with TKO. That's interesting. I just don't see how this

1916
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: is anything but that. It's like, Oh, he's signing these

1917
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: brand ambassador deals, the ones you raised, Oh Lovedilla Mason

1918
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: when he.

1919
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: Did five of them last week, and the three biggest

1920
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 2: ones are the top ranks future stars, Abdula Mason, Keishawn Davis, Bruce,

1921
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 2: Shushu Carrington, Like, why would he do that? All three

1922
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: or on beat? And all three are?

1923
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: You know?

1924
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,560
Speaker 2: Kishaw's a champion, the other two on the verge of championship.

1925
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he's building very strong relationships with shaping them.

1926
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 1: Again, I don't know, this is not a declaration that

1927
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: if he does those things it will lead to them

1928
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: signing over time. I don't think that that's necessarily a

1929
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: one to one relationship. But it seems to me that

1930
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: these cards, at least in the interim, are are Listen,

1931
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: It's the same thing we've been saying about the Saudis

1932
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: the whole time. If I look at their cards, are

1933
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: we getting cards that are excellent? Are we getting good fights?

1934
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: Are we getting meaningful fights that fans want to see?

1935
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: There is simply no question that you are. But it's

1936
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: all in service to a bigger, broader purpose. This idea

1937
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: that like everyone tweets him, or excuse me, everyone treating

1938
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: Turkey like he's this avuncular figure in your life who's

1939
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: just there to do good. It has no alterior motives.

1940
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: You can like or hate those alterior motives, but to me,

1941
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: this is all in service of this grand vision that

1942
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: he has.

1943
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 2: What do you make about Eddie Hearn in this case?

1944
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 2: Now I don't I don't know if that's confirmed, but

1945
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 2: it does seem to be confirmed that him and Schakor.

1946
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if they cut ties or or if

1947
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: they just ripped up the deal or whatever, but it

1948
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: does seem like Eddie's on Eddie because Eddie was the

1949
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 2: strongest of the beginning when the Tiko thing was announced,

1950
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 2: and I didn't agree with the timing and the way

1951
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 2: they did it. But Eddie, you know, famously said, look,

1952
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 2: I'd love to keep working with Turkey, but I'm the

1953
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 2: best promoter in the world. I'm not dependent upon him.

1954
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: Is this the future of that? Is this that playing out?

1955
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: Right? So let's see Burlanga left him, Yep, Shakor left him.

1956
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: Who's the other one. I'm not thinking.

1957
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 2: Bevoll is with him, even though Herne promotes him. But

1958
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 2: remember bevill was considering going to PBC and fighting Benavitez,

1959
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: but instead drop the belt to stay with Turkey and

1960
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 2: do the trilogy. So that's interesting. I think ed Hearn's

1961
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:09,839
Speaker 2: still his promoter. But that's interesting.

1962
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just seems to me like I I don't

1963
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: know who is pulling the reins back from who, but

1964
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: these guys who are all like reading that there's riding

1965
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: on the wall about the future of t K, I

1966
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: think are trying to feather a nest for themselves and

1967
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: some of that's going to lead to players going to

1968
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: different bases, so to speak, on the on the Baseball dimes.

1969
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 2: Interesting stuff. We'll see what goes on. They did have

1970
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford, by the way, at wrestle Mania, so he

1971
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: got his TK O close up. You got yeah, got

1972
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 2: a pretty good pop and I and I think we're

1973
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 2: going to see him later this year against Canelo in

1974
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 2: that stadium, So that would be a we're under the

1975
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 2: understanding that TK is going to do what two to

1976
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: four pay per views a year.

1977
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: I think they would probably want to do one quarter,

1978
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: think of like think of like an all star version

1979
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 1: of the Fox model four big shows year one of

1980
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: the quarter, you know.

1981
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 2: And then they'll probably start whatever their prospect league is

1982
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: going to look like. Right with maybe we'll see calam

1983
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 2: Walsh and those likes on there. Let's go to topic

1984
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 2: number five, even though the story in theory is a

1985
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,480
Speaker 2: little over a week old, there have been recent developments.

1986
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: We're talking about the rise and very sudden fall of

1987
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: the GFL. We joke and call it the Geriatric Football

1988
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 2: League or the Geriatric Fight League. Excuse me, but the

1989
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 2: Global Fighting League under Darren Owen made a lot of claims.

1990
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: They had a format we didn't naturally agree with, with

1991
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: teams in different cities across the globe. They bungled the

1992
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 2: draft in which they exposed the fact that it wasn't

1993
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 2: actually a draft, and you know the backstory. But one week, Luke,

1994
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: after Darren Owen was forced to cancel the promotion's kickoff

1995
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 2: weekend of back to back events in LA when an

1996
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: investor pulled out of money at the last minute, it

1997
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 2: seems the GFL founder continued to dig a hole in

1998
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 2: subsequent statements to the media, including a text message to

1999
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 2: uncrowned Ariel Hawanee, that have only furthered like the speculation

2000
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 2: that the GFL was potentially fraudulent from the beginning. And

2001
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: you have MMA manager speaking out got fighter Alan Belcher

2002
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 2: straight up calling it a scam on Instagram. So, Luke,

2003
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 2: in your opinion, in light of these recent comments. I

2004
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: think Lloyd Pearson was one of those MMA managers who

2005
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 2: reached out to Ariel and we saw a story and

2006
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: m a junkie that really kind of showed a lot

2007
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: of this And we can get into that, But first

2008
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: and foremost, what really happened here? And is this promotion

2009
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: ever going to have an actual event or was it

2010
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 2: ever expected that they would like? Is this a dojah

2011
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: coin scam that I didn't understand? What the hell is

2012
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 2: GFL really?

2013
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: Dude? I don't I can't believe. I can believe that

2014
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: we're here, that everything collapsed and that brought us to

2015
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: this position. I get that part. I can't believe that

2016
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: we there's this much interest in something that is as

2017
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: obviously phony as them. I gotta tell you, I certainly

2018
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:59,879
Speaker 1: have sympathy for fighters who may have adjusted their preference.

2019
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 1: Is I wanted to go with this promotion instead? I

2020
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: signed with GFL because I was made a series of promises,

2021
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: and these promises to me indicated that it was a

2022
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: better choice for me and my family if they get screwed.

2023
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 1: I certainly have a great deal of sympathy for them.

2024
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: I want to be very clear about that. Like there

2025
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: are potentially victims here in that sense, and it deserves

2026
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: to be noticed.

2027
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 2: Oh, a lot of fighters turned down money with PFL,

2028
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: for example, to take what was going to be bigger

2029
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: checks with But.

2030
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: I would say, if you're a manager, I don't know

2031
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 1: how much sympathy I really have for them to be

2032
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: perfectly honest in this particular case. Now, I'm glad that

2033
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: some of them have come forward to talk about some

2034
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: of the issues that they're having, But it's like, how

2035
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 1: could you ever advise your client that this was even

2036
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: remotely real?

2037
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: How could you do something fool a lot of money do?

2038
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: They promised a lot of money that didn't seem real.

2039
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: Hook we should talk about that. Certain fighters and certain

2040
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: coaches were offered stipends, and some of that was delivered upon.

2041
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: I understand that. But even with that, how could you

2042
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: look at this place and the amount of money that

2043
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,480
Speaker 1: they they were offering to everybody else these gigantic paydays.

2044
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: They had no broadcast deal, they had no real fully funding,

2045
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: they had no real dates. And again I know they

2046
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: claimed that they had dates and they moved them, but

2047
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: for a long time they had no real dates. They

2048
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: had this ham handed. The shob shop was one of

2049
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: the best things about that thing. I mean, let's be

2050
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: honest about that. Brendan did a great job. That they

2051
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: had this ham handed draft and again a core concept.

2052
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be as delicate as I can be.

2053
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: That simply cannot work. It's like, let's take the gamification,

2054
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: this sportsification of the what PFL is doing, only at

2055
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 1: a higher degree, we'll do it even more. That is

2056
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 1: a doa fucking concept.

2057
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 2: I have a theory though, that cuts into them. I

2058
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 2: want to show the facts first.

2059
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: Okay, a littlek at the facts. There's a bunch more

2060
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: I want to say about this.

2061
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 2: On April ninth is when we found out this was canceled,

2062
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 2: and then Darren Owen gave some text to Ariel Hawani

2063
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 2: to sort of explain that here was the original text

2064
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 2: that said working on a solution. My main investor didn't

2065
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 2: fulfill his April obligation, which has caused a problem. I'll

2066
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 2: keep you posted, but I believe we'll be able to

2067
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: work through it. I think we can make it happen

2068
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 2: for June. Additionally, I don't foresee the event taking place

2069
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 2: in California, but we absolutely will keep pushing forward. I

2070
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 2: think we're going to have to push the dates to

2071
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 2: June fifteenth or sixteenth out the confirm asap. It's been

2072
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 2: a frustrating week, but I think there's a solution in place.

2073
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: Then we had Lloyd Pearson, the MMA manager, speaking to Uncrowned,

2074
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 2: going in length, and here's some from that story that

2075
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,879
Speaker 2: MMA Junkie put out that Aaron Bronstadter tweeted out. According

2076
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: to Pearson, According to this MMA Junkie story by Ben Folks,

2077
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,759
Speaker 2: Owen attempted to address concerns about the gfl's financial stability

2078
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 2: by quote circulating copies and photos of the GFL bank

2079
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 2: account showing that at one point they did have over

2080
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 2: twenty million in funding. Let's go to the next slide, please,

2081
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 2: that's only Oh you don't have the second hal it in.

2082
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: Front of me, okay, go ahead. Quote to do so,

2083
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: he transferred twenty million into our bank account to prove

2084
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: he had the funds, Owen wrote. He transferred the funds

2085
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: out of the account the same day. We had a

2086
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: monthly schedule of funds typically in the two hundred thousand

2087
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 1: per month range. This is Owen talking about his main sigh.

2088
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 2: No one responded to the comments from Parson Jnson.

2089
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: Two hundred thousand per month range that he had been

2090
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: funding without issue until April. Whether it was the market

2091
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 1: crash or him getting cold feet, he did not fulfill

2092
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: his April obligation and subsequently halted our progress.

2093
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 2: So originally Pearson, who had a bunch of his fighters

2094
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 2: that were assigned to GFL, and a bunch of them,

2095
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 2: you know, turned down opportunities. He gave this quote to Uncrowned.

2096
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 2: At its inception, GFL came on the MMA scene seeking

2097
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 2: attention by promising fighters large sums of money. Many relied

2098
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 2: on these promises, and when GFL failed to deliver, now

2099
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 2: the fighters have been financially harmed and forced to participipate

2100
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: in prolonged fight camps for bouts that will now not occur.

2101
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 2: He would go on to essentially accuse Owen of reaching

2102
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 2: out to fighters and almost kind of pitching to them

2103
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 2: an opportunity to still fight, but for free, I guess,

2104
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 2: in hopes of attracting revshare of revshare, in hopes of

2105
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 2: attracting the right investments. And the final quote there from

2106
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 2: Pearson was GFL and Owen and began recruiting top level

2107
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 2: fighters during the first months of twenty twenty four, offering

2108
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 2: large financial purses and guaranteeing the ability to fight three

2109
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 2: times during twenty five. Relying on these promises blah blah blah,

2110
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 2: left so many fighters to financially hurting themselves. We can say,

2111
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 2: what did you expect? Blah blah blah. But my theory

2112
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 2: that cuts into this is I don't think it was

2113
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 2: a scam that was never anticipated to succeed. But I

2114
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 2: felt like when that shitty draft happened and they kind

2115
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 2: of showed their hand and admitted afterwards, oh yeah, it

2116
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 2: wasn't really a draft. We kind of just assigned based

2117
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 2: on where the fighters live and made the teams. We

2118
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 2: all had the same opinion of why the hell are

2119
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 2: you doing a team format in twenty twenty five. You

2120
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 2: have no chance to make it work. I think they

2121
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 2: never had the investors. They maybe had some talking with people,

2122
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 2: and they hoped that by using the draft as a commercial,

2123
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 2: having Luke rock hold On there in an AI supermodel

2124
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 2: or superhero costume, having interviews with Tyron Woodley and all

2125
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 2: these former UFC names, that then all the people willing

2126
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 2: to waste money and MMA would call up and say, yeah, man,

2127
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 2: now I'm in I want I want to own that

2128
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 2: New York team. That seems to me the only way

2129
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 2: they thought this was going to work. And it does

2130
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 2: feel sort of halfway. Maybe not fraudulent, but but gross.

2131
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 2: If that's the case that they would roll out in

2132
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 2: this attempt and make all the fighters do that, could

2133
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 2: it be as simple as what's own saying that the

2134
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,560
Speaker 2: money was guaranteed and that wasn't there, Like, what do

2135
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 2: you actually feel deep inside?

2136
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Be real? First of all, twenty let me just say this,

2137
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Speaker 1: I would love to have twenty million. Twenty million to

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01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 1: run the fight promotion is nothing, that is nothing. You

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01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: cannot do shit with twenty million.

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01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 4: You can.

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01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: You can be a very very small league and that

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01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: will save you. But to do what they wanted to do,

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01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 1: twenty million would get burned almost instantly. That is not

2144
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot of money at all of the in terms

2145
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: of the people that they were signing for the amounts

2146
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: they were trying to sign them for Bryan Campbell, twenty

2147
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 1: million is is a drop in the fucking bucket. It

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01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 1: means absolutely fuck all. Moreover, if you have a budget

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01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: of two hundred k, you definitely don't have anything going on. Again,

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01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 1: for the names that you wanted to sign. You can

2151
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: do a much smaller promotion with much small ambition and

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01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 1: that will last you a good long while. But that's

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01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: not what they were doing. This is the point, guys.

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01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: If you want to see a regional promotion that can

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01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 1: do well, look at what LFA does. They actually started

2156
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: as two different promotions that merged, but they started very

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01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: very small and slowly.

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01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 2: Built over time with the modelsc who you working with

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01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 2: that they are very cost conscious for that reason, and

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01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 2: they want to build.

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01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 1: Slowly over time. Going the other way where we want

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01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:30,600
Speaker 1: to go as fast as possible with like these exorbitant

2163
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:35,680
Speaker 1: price tags on everything with a concept that you know,

2164
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: if you've been watching MMA for at least immoderate amount

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01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: of time, cannot work at all. This had red flags

2166
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: from the moment I learned about it, them being like, oh,

2167
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 1: down the line, it turned out their promises were bullshit.

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Speaker 1: How was this not the most predictable fucking outcome that

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01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: could have possibly befallen us? I cannot believe these managers

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01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 1: sitting here being like we we had no idea would

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01:35:59,040 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: go this way.

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01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 2: Some fighters left, you have se money on the table

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01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 2: to come there.

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Speaker 1: How could you not know it was going to end

2175
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 1: in blood. How cold you might have been able to

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01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: get one paycheck, maybe two at most. You had to

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01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: know this ended in blood. You had to know. We

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01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 1: knew it was going to end.

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01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 2: In plus ferguson blood. That's the blood we thought.

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01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: And I want to go a little bit further. You

2181
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 1: mentioned it just to clarify what they were talking about.

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01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: By the way, according to Alan Belcher, after the initial

2183
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 1: GFL event Cancelation, Oward offered him some quote rev share

2184
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: and stuff that I would fight for, not a guaranteed purse.

2185
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 1: With the apparent lack of funding for the GFL, Darren

2186
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 1: is asking fighters to compete for free and again it's

2187
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 1: a rev share, Pearson wrote. He has circulated a document

2188
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,919
Speaker 1: showing a revshare model for the fighters, a complete deviation

2189
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,639
Speaker 1: from their contracted amounts. According to some fighters, the GFL

2190
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 1: is projecting to make almost four million from this event

2191
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 1: at the low, and holy fuck, if they only lost

2192
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: four million, I would be shocked to say that they

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01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: have a revshare model where they're going to make at

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01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 1: least four I mean, after all the gate and the

2195
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: television and all the everything, you're gonna make four million

2196
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: that you're out of your fucking mind to think something

2197
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 1: so obviously fucking idiotic. Here's the biggest problem that we're

2198
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: really not talking about, and it was central to the

2199
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: PFL conversation as well. There just aren't enough opportunities for fighters.

2200
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 2: Is that because of the monsopsony.

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Speaker 1: I know people get sick of this conversation, BC, I

2202
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,879
Speaker 1: know that we sound like a broken record, But eventually

2203
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,599
Speaker 1: GFL is going to be completely gone. One might stay

2204
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,839
Speaker 1: around as like a kickboxing organization that does MMA on occasion.

2205
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 1: PFL does not have a long future. What are we

2206
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna say then to the middle classifighters Bellator's weak, excuse me,

2207
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 1: excuse me, Bellatour's yearly outlay of fighter pay, Like all

2208
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: the fighter pay they had to do in a year

2209
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: top to bottom was forty million that just got taken

2210
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: away from the market and didn't get put back in.

2211
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 1: And trying to go to this fucking route is like

2212
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,879
Speaker 1: so obviously nonsensical. But if you've got really constrained options,

2213
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: maybe you're desperate enough to just want to believe this.

2214
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 2: He said, what are we going to say to them?

2215
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna say twelve and twelve Campbell online one and

2216
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 2: that's what we're gonna say to them, that's that's.

2217
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: That's that's, that's it. But I mean, I just if

2218
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 1: you've been watching MMA for any amount of time, how

2219
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: can you how can you say with a straight face

2220
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 1: you couldn't see this coming. Jesus Christ, I could see

2221
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: this coming. We talked about seeing this coming. It cannot work.

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01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 2: I just feel like they used that. They were hoping

2223
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 2: that draft was a hail Mary, that all these people

2224
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 2: are gonna come and they're gonna get it, and they

2225
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 2: were gonna get the money that they need to start

2226
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 2: one card at a time. It feels like the tail

2227
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 2: end of eighties wrestling when Vinc McMann went worldwide and

2228
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 2: suddenly like the A w A and all these people

2229
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 2: are dying slow death. It feels like the tail end

2230
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 2: of that, only this is day one for them.

2231
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just never got out of it.

2232
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, it is the it is the

2233
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 2: industry crushing them. But it also was just poor.

2234
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: It's just was it fraud or is it just I

2235
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: don't think. I think this guy just believes his own nonsense.

2236
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: But the point I'm trying to make is, if you

2237
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: see somebody trying to spend a fuck ton of money

2238
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 1: up front for faded names like and we're talking like

2239
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 1: a huge list of names which would have a huge

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Speaker 1: list of costs.

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01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 2: Like of Turkey only did old guy fights.

2242
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah again under the weirdest nonsensical city system. The

2243
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: fucking spidery tingles on the back of your neck should

2244
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: have gone up right away that this can't work. Yeah,

2245
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: it's the opposite. It's literally BC it's the exact opposite

2246
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 1: of everything we know that works.

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01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,560
Speaker 2: At least we'll have those GFL draft memes for the

2248
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 2: rest of our lives. In the video game costumes.

2249
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 1: That was very interesting, the AI fucking video.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing we're gonna remember, right, or the or

2251
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 2: the the fact that the day after the draft are like, yeah, sorry,

2252
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 2: we accidentally leaked the results after the first pick it.

2253
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot about that too.

2254
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No. I mean I feel bad for fighters who were

2256
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 1: counting on a paycheck. I will always say that I

2257
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 1: really am.

2258
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 2: And people, producers, camera, yeah, everybody, everybody who was.

2259
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:47,839
Speaker 1: Counting on one. I feel bad for not the managers,

2260
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: but I feel bad for everybody else. But I just

2261
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 1: don't understand how people can be, like, how did this happen.

2262
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: You fucking know.

2263
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 2: How anyone's actually saying that those are our five topics?

2264
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 2: Thank you for playing? Now is the chance though, that

2265
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 2: give you the chance to say you have yours? Say right?

2266
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 2: Ask us a question. Every Sunday night at morning combat

2267
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 2: on IG on the old X, we put out the

2268
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 2: call to you. We call this one DMS from dogs.

2269
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's a disgusting sound.

2270
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 1: I am told. I am told that they're making new imaging.

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01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 2: And new sounds too.

2272
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm told Long Island.

2273
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,680
Speaker 2: Look who will voice the ejaculation on the new one?

2274
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: It's actually Gaff just saying let's say it's got to

2275
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 1: be your dad. I mean, that's really all right.

2276
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 2: Hey, here's our first question from our fans. What do

2277
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 2: you got to say? Let's see if they bring it

2278
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 2: from con Man eighty eight and that's CONN with a K.

2279
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 2: Who would enjoy their night the least? BC at Cannibal

2280
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 2: Corpse or LT at a Burnt Chrys Slow show shirtless?

2281
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 2: You have to be shirtless with Bert at that show?

2282
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? Would I Actually the answer would be who would

2283
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 1: enjoy their night the least? It would actually be b

2284
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 1: C because if I had to go to a Burt

2285
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Chreiser show. I would just probably blow my brains out.

2286
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 2: You Mikey loves Burt christ You have to get you

2287
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 2: have to respect his favorite song, his favorite movie time

2288
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,560
Speaker 2: is Armageddon, and he loves Burt Chrysler. Everyone has like

2289
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 2: you know, you know, you know, everyone's got their things.

2290
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the arm Ageddon. I wouldn't call it

2291
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 1: my favorite movie, but I'm not gonna hate on that.

2292
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a fun one.

2293
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 2: You love, Mikey. We'll let him have that.

2294
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, it's a it's a big action summer thriller.

2295
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: I remember when Armageddon came out, but Burnt Chrysler, I

2296
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 1: would just rather be dead. I'm being honest.

2297
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't go to a cannibal corpse be rough.

2298
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 1: You know what I bought recently. I didn't even know

2299
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 1: about these. Well, i'd heard of him, but I never

2300
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: really looked into them. I bought the ear plugs, but

2301
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: the kind like if you buy like sleep ear plugs,

2302
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: they just muffle sound. Yeah, I got these new ear plugs.

2303
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,640
Speaker 1: They just take the decibel level and just lower it

2304
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 1: so that it sounds basically the same, but you can

2305
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: still hear the music. I got those because I'm gonna

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01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 1: see Cannibal Corpse on Wednesday, bitch this week?

2307
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 2: What venue?

2308
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,839
Speaker 1: Uh? The MGM in DC at the ox Hill GM Facility.

2309
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, you're gonna have any chance to meet

2310
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:54,799
Speaker 2: the band, like maybe George Corps.

2311
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 1: Grinder that is it's the plan, that's the plan for afterwards.

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01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 2: Do you know somebody in the band?

2313
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 1: I forget I do, Yeah, Eric, who's the guitarist.

2314
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 2: Guitar So he's not the guitarist that all the child

2315
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 2: uh images? Right?

2316
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 1: No, I don't know if he had child images, he

2317
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 1: had human skulls.

2318
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 2: In his Okay, yes, I think it starts with you know,

2319
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 2: there's people in this world that have like glass cases

2320
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 2: of snakes all over their house. I think that's that's

2321
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 2: where it leads.

2322
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: To the skulls. They if you have snakes in your house,

2323
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 1: the next step is dead bodies. Uh No.

2324
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy that, and I hope you do

2325
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 2: get to meet the band. These privileges that we get

2326
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 2: in life.

2327
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 1: They are boxing fan.

2328
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 2: There we go, there we go. Let's see the next

2329
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 2: one from our great fans here at Jordan Peterson Peterson

2330
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:38,600
Speaker 2: with Holloway.

2331
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 1: Does he cry as much as Jordan Peterson. I don't

2332
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 1: think so.

2333
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:44,440
Speaker 2: With Max Holloway intending to move back up to lightweight permanently,

2334
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 2: who should be who should Max be matched up with? Next?

2335
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 2: A fight with Hooker would be dynamite. Well, look, we

2336
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 2: feel like it's going to be proably way three. So

2337
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 2: that's a great fight.

2338
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: I a lot. Max has options, Max has options.

2339
01:42:56,760 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 2: Overmatch you could do that. I mean, I can against Hoker,

2340
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 2: that'd be what would you say.

2341
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 1: About Oliver versus sar Yuki? Sorry, what am I saying? Holloway?

2342
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 2: I never thought of that one. That's interesting, what.

2343
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of fresh, interesting matter, and that.

2344
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 2: Could give him a title shot earned, the title shot earned.

2345
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 1: But I think if you're Max and you know you

2346
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: remember he lost the first two and then the third

2347
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 1: to Volcan. He lost the first two to Dustin. Yes,

2348
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna want to get this one back. He's gonna

2349
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: be the champion going in.

2350
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor is seriously fing the UFC because even if

2351
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 2: he's in shitty shape and is automatically going to lose

2352
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 2: to every fights, he should have still given them two

2353
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 2: to three pay per views over the last couple of years.

2354
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 2: He's one I know, and one of them would have

2355
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 2: been Max, And I feel like that would have been

2356
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 2: a great rematch. It would sold, it would have been interesting.

2357
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 1: But we Max beating Justin Gaighee is pretty fucking redemptive.

2358
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 2: That was great, That was great. But I'm saying, like,

2359
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 2: think of in all the arguments we're making about star

2360
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 2: power and what fight is going to save this pay

2361
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 2: per view, just old ask Connor showing up would save

2362
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 2: a lot of it. They can't even get that.

2363
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, true.

2364
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 2: Next question from the people, This one's from h m

2365
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 2: z n a Q. Which current UFC fighter do you

2366
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 2: think is the most underrated by both fans and the

2367
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 2: promotion and why does it have to be both? I

2368
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 2: mean there's some you can say that are underrated by

2369
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 2: the fans that aren't underrated by the promotion. I mean

2370
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 2: most are evloyev is super underrated. But you get why, right,

2371
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 2: m hmm.

2372
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: You could say even Ian Garrett.

2373
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say Ian Gary. But I wouldn't

2374
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 2: say that the promotion underrats.

2375
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 1: Are the fan doesn't Yeah, the fans still do.

2376
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 2: Al Jo, Yes, yes, Aljos, Aljos always underrated.

2377
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 1: Ash, Yeah, that's probably fair, that's probably he gets.

2378
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 2: Critical recognition, but maybe it's how they treated them when.

2379
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:38,679
Speaker 1: He was on top. So he dropped in the rankings

2380
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 1: recently with some of the movement that happened after three fourteen,

2381
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he was very happy with that. So, yeah,

2382
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 1: that's that's Aljo is a good one. Certainly some other

2383
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:49,799
Speaker 1: ones too, but yeah.

2384
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 2: Trying to think, I'm trying to think of one that

2385
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 2: just fits this perfectly, Like who is everyone kind of

2386
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 2: like sleeping on? Yeah, I wish I could say Brian

2387
01:44:57,960 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 2: or Tago, but it's just not true.

2388
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 1: You know what Pantoja I mean, that's great. Hardcore fans

2389
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,640
Speaker 1: love him, but like he's way fucking better than he

2390
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 1: gets credit for.

2391
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 2: I think is going to be just fine, and it's

2392
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 2: going to be one of the great.

2393
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 1: Lumar Lumar has a bright future, you know. Listen, Rob

2394
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 1: is going to be champion at least for a little

2395
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 1: while longer, I think.

2396
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 2: I mean, DDP is finally getting the recognition and respect

2397
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 2: even though he's unorthodox and lumbering and messy. But it works,

2398
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 2: It freaking works. There you go, right there, I think

2399
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 2: we got another one from these people. Let's see what

2400
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 2: they say from a man in his cat I can

2401
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 2: support that lifestyle. Who's a bucket list RSD guest you

2402
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,600
Speaker 2: would have to have, you would love to have have

2403
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 2: Max Kellerman. We both said, fantastic Schwarzenegger, The Body Hunter

2404
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 2: except for the N word, Dog, the Bounty Hunter, except

2405
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 2: for the N word debacles.

2406
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 1: See alive.

2407
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 2: Yes, you're damn right he's alive.

2408
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 1: Are you sure? Yes?

2409
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 2: I know his wife died, yes, Beth yeah, RP No

2410
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 2: for real in the sport. I mean Max Colman would

2411
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 2: be very interesting. We both love that.

2412
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: I would love to When is he coming back?

2413
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wonder if it's That's what I wonder.

2414
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 2: Imagine him on Netflix.

2415
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 1: Could kind of bad us, right, good for good for him?

2416
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Lampley's coming back on this Ryan Garcia card.

2417
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 2: We'll see if that's for better or worse, right, I mean,

2418
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 2: I support him, I give I want him to get

2419
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 2: his shot.

2420
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. Yeah, but for me, it's okay.

2421
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 2: If we had RSD back, and it's not out of

2422
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 2: the question. We're building sponsorship relationships. We're coming back, right,

2423
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 2: We're on the comeback trail, MK, But we still need

2424
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 2: that studio with that couch. I got to add a

2425
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 2: few names because that's what they're asking. Roly Romero. No,

2426
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia, fuck no, I get why, But that's female.

2427
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: What is dude? Ryan Garcia is interesting to watch? He's

2428
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 1: not interesting to talk to.

2429
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 2: All right, I just named everybody. Yeah, I think he's

2430
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 2: interesting to talk to you because he's so. I think

2431
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 2: it is.

2432
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 1: But we have very different rights.

2433
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 2: Who else in the combat space would be like a dream.

2434
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 2: Maybe they came on of late, or maybe it's somebody

2435
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 2: that we wouldn't have access to.

2436
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 1: But like, honestly, if they would be, if they would

2437
01:46:56,600 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 1: even if they sparred with us, Don Davis, I'm telling.

2438
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 2: Dana White, Hunter Campbell, and any of those. Yeah, I

2439
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 2: mean there's certain legends. Remember we sat down with GSP

2440
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 2: briefly before the Anderson Silva Jake Paul fight we had

2441
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 2: for showtime on the Way and Show. I'd love to

2442
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 2: get GSP in that format, wouldn't you? Even though he's

2443
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 2: always in our face on social media? I feel like.

2444
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: He's under Craig Jones.

2445
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 2: True, But isn't GSP to some under exposed to some degree,

2446
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 2: even though he's always in your face, it's not a

2447
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 2: it's not in a long term sit down deep sound.

2448
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 1: I'll just say this. You know that there's been generational

2449
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 1: turnover in the fans when they start killing old legends.

2450
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: So for example, there's a lot of aldo, hey, just

2451
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 1: from donks who don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

2452
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: And I see some of that with Saint Pierre.

2453
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 7: Two.

2454
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 2: People think I have although hit that's unnecessary and I

2455
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 2: need to put them in the upper room table and

2456
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 2: just show up and be a man about it.

2457
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well just wait. All you think is you think

2458
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 1: Islam Makachev is going to be universally revered. Wait five years,

2459
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a bunch of fans being like a

2460
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 1: cook that fraud, you know, Yeah, dumbasses.

2461
01:47:58,360 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 2: Who's the guy that knocked out Islam?

2462
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 1: I even for out his name, the Brazilian Doggiano Martinez.

2463
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

2464
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 8: There you go with that?

2465
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,679
Speaker 2: Do we have another one from the people from von

2466
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 2: Bechel Cal Did you guys do anything fun for Easter?

2467
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 2: So Luke I didn't arrive home on my fight from

2468
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 2: the West Coast until after midnight Saturday night, so this

2469
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 2: was the most low key Easter we ever had. I

2470
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 2: did the rundown for this show. I put together my ship.

2471
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 2: I took a nap. That's about it for Easter from

2472
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 2: me on the sacred holiday.

2473
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 1: I mean, we flew home yesterday and my daughter was very,

2474
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 1: very cranky because her sleep was interrupted to make the flight. Yes,

2475
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: and then we went home and.

2476
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 2: Nobody puts tookey in the corner.

2477
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I took her. I took her out from milkshakes afterwards.

2478
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 2: What a dad?

2479
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I took her from milkshakes. She loved it. He

2480
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 1: loved it. So that was great. But we didn't do

2481
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 1: anything super crazy. We were also tired. You know. It

2482
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: was weird because we traveled with we we brought her,

2483
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: we brought the grandma with us, and you know, it

2484
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 1: was just a lot.

2485
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 2: That's what we're calling her out, the grandma Wela.

2486
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 1: Come on, you know. So she was great.

2487
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,719
Speaker 2: Was a boil a date or is this conver station over.

2488
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 5: All?

2489
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 8: Right?

2490
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 1: Maybe the conversations over time. I mean, I'm not saying

2491
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: it wouldn't happen, but like, all.

2492
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 2: Right, thank you for that inside too your life. Those

2493
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 2: were the dms from Donks. You can join us again

2494
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:13,879
Speaker 2: on Sunday night and don't forget for this Friday's episode

2495
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 2: for all episodes, or just to reach out to the

2496
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,560
Speaker 2: show Morning Combat at gmail dot com email address. The

2497
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 2: great Mikey Momiles was on the end of that. But

2498
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:22,760
Speaker 2: do not, please do not show them a picture of

2499
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 2: your package, your your dead wrongs, your fan subs. They

2500
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 2: won't get red. Come original of this Friday. Bring it.

2501
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 2: Let's bring it for good fan sub moments. We close

2502
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 2: with really the best segment in all of combats. Whereas

2503
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 2: maybe outside of High Court, I rewatched High Court, the

2504
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:40,560
Speaker 2: John Jones edition, maybe our finest piece of art we

2505
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 2: ever put out.

2506
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 1: There, we never do that could have been so much

2507
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 1: better too. We could have like that was like that

2508
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 1: was like a prototype. We could have done a million

2509
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 1: of those.

2510
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:49,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, that true story. That was my first time working

2511
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 6: with you guys.

2512
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, which your episode John Jones?

2513
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: John, did you think we were the dumbest people alive?

2514
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,560
Speaker 6: I mean, I knew who you guys were before, but

2515
01:49:58,720 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 6: I was like, what the fuck are we doing?

2516
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 1: Luke?

2517
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 2: How high? How high were you for court?

2518
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Zooted brother?

2519
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 2: There was a Zoos suit.

2520
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,600
Speaker 1: Riot going on. All right, a bottle you go.

2521
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 2: Our final segment is what I do every Sunday. I

2522
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 2: go through all the dms. You guys hit me up

2523
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 2: on ig with ridiculous videos meant to make Luke Thomas emo.

2524
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 2: This one's called have you seen this shit?

2525
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:29,680
Speaker 1: Who? Luke?

2526
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 2: We're less than two weeks removed from the return of

2527
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 2: my favorite fighter, Rolando Romero, that comedic, dry humor genius.

2528
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 2: So let's celebrate the holiday weekend with a look back

2529
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 2: the last time we saw and heard from Roly.

2530
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 6: Happy Easter, everybody. I want to tell everybody, Happy Easter

2531
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:45,720
Speaker 6: and thank you for supporting me and following.

2532
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 2: Thank thank you. Really that was actually two fights ago

2533
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 2: when Pipple sent him to Hell a year ago. But uh,

2534
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 2: happy Easter to everyone from Roly. Speaking of Roie, Luke,

2535
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 2: here's how he trains for cardio as he prepares for

2536
01:50:56,080 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia. He trained for cardio. Uh fucked three times

2537
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 2: a day. I fucked three times a day.

2538
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 1: Can I just say it's not even like I believe

2539
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 1: that that's like a like, dude fucking three times a day.

2540
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 1: That's a lot of work.

2541
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 2: That's a lot of I mean, Will Chamberlain was active,

2542
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 2: you know, guy was active.

2543
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: I mean he's a pro athlet. I mean he's a

2544
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: pro athlete. You know, he's a pro athlete. But to me,

2545
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 1: it's like, you gotta do that sounds like a death sentence.

2546
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 1: I gotta go fuck.

2547
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 2: Three times one point five women per day for.

2548
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 1: The math to work, to get the twenty k to work.

2549
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 1: I don't do That's just I would just I mean,

2550
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not advocating being an insult. That's even worse.

2551
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 1: But like you know, three times in a day, that's

2552
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:39,679
Speaker 1: that's a little overcall.

2553
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:41,679
Speaker 2: It's great work if you can get it though. Okay,

2554
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 2: Rolly can also make it rain on the heavy bag

2555
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 2: quite literally.

2556
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 1: Welcome to the weather forecast. What's the weather like there?

2557
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 2: Ly?

2558
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: Rain? Yeah?

2559
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 5: Rain?

2560
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 1: I think so one more time, just checking. Definitely rain. Okay,

2561
01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: thanks much appreciated.

2562
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 2: Look are you giving guy any chance against rat guy

2563
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 2: who looked spectacular in those videos with with Derek James

2564
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 2: James like those quick hooks he's showing in the footwork.

2565
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: It's I'll say this, it seems to me like Garcia

2566
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:13,639
Speaker 1: is significantly more sober this time around. And I actually

2567
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 1: don't think that'll make him worse sactly.

2568
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:15,839
Speaker 2: That's part of the analysis.

2569
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 1: But well, I mean, dude, a year ago was that fight?

2570
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 1: What was the fight like a year ago? Yesterday? A

2571
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 1: year ago. Yesterday, he was out of his fucking mind.

2572
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 1: Remember he was in the club and the shirtless I

2573
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 1: thought he was again all time, fucking over my face.

2574
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 1: Quote he was gonna you know, we you know the story.

2575
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:33,480
Speaker 2: Tune him like a guitar.

2576
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 1: One.

2577
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 2: Speaking of disturbing moments. I don't put this out to laugh,

2578
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 2: but this was that BJ Penn video. Let's getting a

2579
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 2: lot of attention. We'll just quickly look at it as scared,

2580
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 2: he tell me if I because you know he put

2581
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 2: Brendon shab On the same in putting Brandon job.

2582
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 1: I know Shop in the comments thought it was a joke.

2583
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 1: He didn't know, and he put it.

2584
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 2: With Aaron Hernandez and of course it's gonna light up

2585
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 2: the reddits and everybody had fun on the internet. But

2586
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 2: you think BJ is literally saying that Aaron Hernandez is

2587
01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 2: not dead, he's just been repackedged as Brandon Shop.

2588
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:05,799
Speaker 1: Dude, BJ, I know this is like a fun segment.

2589
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 2: I really brought down the mood.

2590
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in trouble mentally, all.

2591
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 2: Right, we got to cleanse the palate, alright.

2592
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to say any more about it because

2593
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 1: it's just a bummer. But he's in trouble.

2594
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 2: Let's let's watch this to cleanse the palette.

2595
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 1: Okay, the nurses saw it my birth.

2596
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I mean he's not wrong, Luke.

2597
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,879
Speaker 1: Okay, Johnny Walker, all right, let's.

2598
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 2: Check in on the Mexican restaurant, the old CANTEENA Luke

2599
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:32,759
Speaker 2: and I had a lot of this food in San Diego.

2600
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 1: Was great.

2601
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 2: Oh oh my go. Look he's just putting the sauce.

2602
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta love the sauce, right, you.

2603
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 1: Just do they Look he's got a bottle in front

2604
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:44,720
Speaker 1: of him.

2605
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets after it. Okay, it's he's done. Hey

2606
01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:51,800
Speaker 2: Tom for your boxing k O of the Week. I

2607
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 2: believe we ran this before, but like eighteen people sent.

2608
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: This white violence here. I'm all about it.

2609
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it can't be real fight.

2610
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 1: Is this one of those rough and rowdy joints or whatever?

2611
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 8: The fuck?

2612
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: I hope look at this turns around. Just fucking boom.

2613
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 2: Take that ray mysteria. Wow, Okay, Luke, this is a

2614
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 2: This is cruel and unnecessary, but it's also funny. Let's

2615
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 2: watch give me that microphone.

2616
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 9: Connor McGregor, I know you died of an overdose a

2617
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 9: year ago and A're probably in hell, but that's nothing

2618
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 9: compared to the hell I'm gonna drag you through when

2619
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:28,600
Speaker 9: you shot this sock to go on with me.

2620
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 1: By the way, my kids are black.

2621
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 2: That was Chandler after losing on the prelimbs in twenty

2622
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Oh gosh, Luke, is it's time for an

2623
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 2: unfortunate flashback headline? Let's go to the eighties. This is

2624
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 2: a real one from Rolling Stone magazine. Look at the

2625
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 2: headline on the right, Luke, those.

2626
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: Summer nights, how magic stays positive? Yeah, I bet he does.

2627
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 1: Plus OJ takes a stab A No, that can't be real.

2628
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 1: OJ takes a stab in family life.

2629
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 2: I think it's all fake.

2630
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:10,919
Speaker 1: But okay, I'm say, holy shit, they really got expressing.

2631
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 2: Let's head to the restroom, Luke, you sent me this.

2632
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 2: This is actually Newark Penn Station's bathroom.

2633
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 1: I want everyone to know. This is tame. Oh yeah,

2634
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 1: was there a murder in there? We don't know, can't Hey?

2635
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 1: Look at this homeless guy just occupying Ah, there's look

2636
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 1: at just just doing drugs over here.

2637
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 2: I changed trains in New Haven and I go to

2638
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 2: that restroom every time, and it is it's rough in

2639
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: that one. But it ain't Newark pen Rough.

2640
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 1: It's nothing. That's That's the tamst I've ever seen it.

2641
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 1: I had a hundred people send me that video and

2642
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 1: I tried to tell them all A was I lying?

2643
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. B I have seen it so much worse

2644
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 1: than that.

2645
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 2: Remember that time I went there and I'm like, Luke

2646
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 2: is talking shit, it's not gonna be that bad. It's

2647
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 2: actually probably nice and historic.

2648
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 8: Dude.

2649
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 2: I got accosted by like four people upon walking through

2650
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 2: the door.

2651
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 1: You can't if you stand in line at the Dunkin

2652
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 1: Donuts or the Mickey D's at that place, the homeless

2653
01:55:59,240 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 1: come right up to you.

2654
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 2: Oh do they? They messed with the people that worked there.

2655
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 2: They started like it was it was.

2656
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: It was insane.

2657
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, speaking of the restroom, Luke, I don't

2658
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,880
Speaker 2: advise this, but what are your thoughts, dude?

2659
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 1: What is wrong with the whites? Show that one again?

2660
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 1: Show them one again, Show them one again? Dude?

2661
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 2: What would you wash his mouth off with carbohic acid?

2662
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:27,879
Speaker 1: I wash it out with a shotgun.

2663
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 2: Okay, No, we don't advise. Wow, that is not necessary.

2664
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm teasing. It's a joke. I don't mean it for real.

2665
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 2: Speaking of fatalities, it's time for your fatalities of the week.

2666
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 2: Let's go to the bike ramp. Wow, dude, that was

2667
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 2: like in Ghanu versus overring level. Okay, right there. Wow,

2668
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 2: let's see an old guy in a bicycle.

2669
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,839
Speaker 1: What do we got here? Not what I was expecting?

2670
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 2: See if he popped them A fucking popped that.

2671
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 1: Little I saw a bunch of those bikes in New Orleans.

2672
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 1: I kind of want one.

2673
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Well, look you are a great father in

2674
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 2: New Orleans. And this guy had the same intentions, just

2675
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 2: like R I P. Kobe Bryant before the helicopter, Luke, But.

2676
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 1: It always he going to sprain his ankle. Yep, yep.

2677
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 1: Oh wow, now does your kid get concussed? You now

2678
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 1: tore your a c l You.

2679
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 2: Found bonus, we have a scorpion of the week. People

2680
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 2: like these videos?

2681
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: Yep? Oh all the whites due, I don't think you

2682
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 1: can walk after that, right, seems so unlike them all right, Hey, Luke.

2683
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 2: Old people say the darnest things. Right, let's hear Grandpa

2684
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 2: at the wedding.

2685
01:57:49,520 --> 01:58:02,600
Speaker 5: Here we go, Yeah, you know what and advertise.

2686
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 2: I mean that's what no cita should just embrace, right, embrace.

2687
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 2: His dad's Australian nutbag. It's the reason why he's here.

2688
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 1: Okay, does his dad even know we talk about his

2689
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 1: ball bag?

2690
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'd love to get him on the

2691
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 2: show just to talk awesome.

2692
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 6: He does not know the extension.

2693
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 2: Luke watched this Grandma keeping it one hondo?

2694
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:22,760
Speaker 1: Is that a cigarette?

2695
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how she's lighting her Uh you know what,

2696
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 2: God bless her. I mean if she's still smoking. She

2697
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 2: made it to triple to just keep smoking.

2698
01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 1: Right, why would you stop welcome.

2699
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 2: If you got him?

2700
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 8: Uh?

2701
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 1: Luke? Uh.

2702
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 2: Batman was spotted in La. Watched this in person.

2703
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:40,760
Speaker 1: Let a person up there. It's an oh my Batman

2704
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:49,880
Speaker 1: something in signal me for anal.

2705
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go to the schoolyard. Great fights happen outside

2706
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 2: of cafeterias.

2707
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: All right, they're gonna squaring up here. Let's see what happens.

2708
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:03,400
Speaker 1: Everyone dressed in black with what the fuck.

2709
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 2: Got them?

2710
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:05,680
Speaker 4: Right?

2711
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 2: That kid's never gonna live that down. He's gonna be

2712
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 2: garbage pale life. No, but he got kao by it.

2713
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 2: It had gross stuff in it.

2714
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 1: That liquid that came out, dude, the garbage can juice.

2715
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 2: Oh, God, I remember when Nick Claiber hit a freshman

2716
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 2: in the air with a donut from like halfway across

2717
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 2: the room. Like that kid's donut air for the rest

2718
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 2: of his life. That's there, you go, right, Okay, look

2719
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 2: it's time for your dunks of the week. Let's watch

2720
01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 2: the principle and high school principle went for a dunk

2721
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:41,120
Speaker 2: and this happened. That's a ko one, headfirst down. Oh,

2722
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 2: let's go to Walmart for the next dunk. What I

2723
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 2: can get behind this type.

2724
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 1: Of Okay, here's the thing. I'm not gonna say that

2725
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 1: wasn't funny. It was funny, y'all. Don't be fucking with

2726
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:57,360
Speaker 1: the Walmart staff. Yeah. I know they got jobs. They

2727
01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 1: let them be.

2728
01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 2: Let them be them, Luke, we do absolutely smoke them

2729
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:04,560
Speaker 2: if you got them time, Luke, you've ever heard of

2730
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:06,680
Speaker 2: a Glizzie bowl. This combines everything we love.

2731
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 1: If you use this, you deserve to be sent to

2732
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 1: a prison camp. And I'll Salvador.

2733
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to put that out long.

2734
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:12,560
Speaker 1: Aunt.

2735
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 7: Look you're down with the pork bong or no, I mean,

2736
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 7: it's better than the soda can bongs.

2737
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 2: I guess it could be a beef bong.

2738
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:20,760
Speaker 1: Too. Yeah, there you go, or the toilet handle bong.

2739
02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:23,320
Speaker 2: Let's continue on. Do you ever hear of a frisbee bong?

2740
02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:30,280
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that?

2741
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:34,840
Speaker 2: You can throw it to your friends past the dut

2742
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 2: cheat to the left side.

2743
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 1: Actually support this now?

2744
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:36,960
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2745
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean you got to have good hands though.

2746
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 1: In New York City brand too, so they probably sell

2747
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:46,880
Speaker 1: that ship. They make wraps and stuff. Right, Yeah, they're

2748
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 1: a paper cup.

2749
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 2: We should play ultimate frisbee with that, or we can

2750
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 2: just smoke a bong, Luke. Let's bring together two celebrities

2751
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:56,200
Speaker 2: and have them play touch butt in the park this time,

2752
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 2: Rob devas Vili and Gable steveson your thoughts.

2753
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: Gable seems unimpressed.

2754
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,200
Speaker 2: Do you think Gable will work as an mm A fighter?

2755
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he's certainly got all the things you would need.

2756
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:13,880
Speaker 2: You better work.

2757
02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:18,240
Speaker 1: They're just, you know, there's just kind of hand fighting here.

2758
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:21,440
Speaker 2: A little real thing. Yeah, I don't know. There's nothing

2759
02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:24,880
Speaker 2: else to say about this. They're just kind of at

2760
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 2: the end. No, like there's no there's no pay, just

2761
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 2: like the viewers hoping that one day Luke will bang.

2762
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:34,240
Speaker 2: We want to Tony and Angela okay please all right?

2763
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 2: Uh Luke, Planet Fitness time you sent me this? In fact,

2764
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas original.

2765
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 1: Planet Fitness. Yeah, I'm Planet Fitness. Penis in my mouth

2766
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 1: or in your mouth? I'm Planet Fitness. Uhs on your head? Okay,

2767
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:50,200
Speaker 1: that was me asking John Jones a question.

2768
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, let's go to the end playoff time in

2769
02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:56,800
Speaker 2: the NBA. Let's hear from Windhurst because obviously Luca, Lebron

2770
02:01:57,040 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 2: and Austin Reeves can fit together beautiful wait and be

2771
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,760
Speaker 2: a competitive group, and they can share each other's load.

2772
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:08,200
Speaker 2: And also they can fit together. Look hashtag load watch.

2773
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 2: That's what real friends do, all right, fire that clown?

2774
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 2: Yes today, that's Lebron's caddy.

2775
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:17,200
Speaker 1: Okay, apparently Lebron doesn't like you know, Lebron.

2776
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:19,480
Speaker 2: Don't like that guy. No, he thinks their best Brian

2777
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:20,440
Speaker 2: thinks they're best friends.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: Finally, uh, do you do you believe in proper etiquette

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Speaker 2: when when walking your dog? Like, there's some people that

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Speaker 2: propert is this? Okay? Is this too far in your eyes?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Do you mind if here dog say high?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, awesome? I they like each other on their friends.

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Speaker 1: Execute both of those disgusting creasures that turn you on

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Speaker 1: and all I hate them both.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's the ship of the week. I hope you

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Speaker 2: saw it well. I think I think we gave it

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Speaker 2: to him, for.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have much to work with. No, no, we had.

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Speaker 1: We had to turn in the words of brock lesnar.

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Speaker 1: We had to turn chicken shit into chicken salad, just.

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Speaker 2: Like our sexual history is not much to work with.

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Speaker 1: But we Uh, I did all I did. I didn't

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Speaker 1: do great. I did all right?

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Speaker 2: All right, I just volume way too loud. All right,

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Speaker 2: there we go. Sorry about that. That's the show for

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Speaker 2: the week. You can email the show at Morning Combat

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Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. We told you about that. Also,

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Speaker 2: here are our social accounts if you want to follow

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02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 2: the show or follow us, including on our personal YouTube

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02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:21,400
Speaker 2: channels where the parties only continue each week. Also check

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Speaker 2: out the main card minute with One Luke Nosita are

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Speaker 2: fantastic director, producer, bong enthusiasts Long Island. Luke, Can we

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Speaker 2: expect content on your YouTube channel this week?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll have the bet breakdown for Kansas City today,

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Speaker 6: Longer One tomorrow, and you know I'll be.

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Speaker 2: Doing the watch Long It's Ian Gary fight. We come on,

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Speaker 2: let's go.

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Speaker 1: I'm to prove the haters wrong. Main event's going to

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Speaker 1: be great.

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Speaker 2: It's damn right.

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Speaker 1: Car's gonna be pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Are you into you Bank versus Ben as well?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I am. It's it's gonna be It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a fun build it. It has been, and I

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Speaker 1: think this week will be kind of kind of cool,

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Speaker 1: all right, for all of.

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Speaker 2: Our great people that work back there, including Kennan Nader.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to those gentlemen. Okay, there they are, and

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Speaker 2: Daniel Snyder's nephew, shout out to him as well. That's right,

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Speaker 2: it's been a great show. Thank you for watching. Take

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Speaker 2: Care of Yourselves. We will be back Friday, eleven am Eastern.

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Speaker 2: A remote episode that will get you fired up for

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Speaker 2: the fights this weekend. Don't miss it. Take care, be

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Speaker 2: be I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Be good to each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, be good to each other, right, be excellent to

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Speaker 2: each other. We are out of here.