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Speaker 2: I have the evidence of my ex wife's infidelity, and

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Speaker 2: I refuse to get rid of it.

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Speaker 2: I fifty two male, used to be married to my

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Speaker 2: ex let's call her Candy, fifty two female, and I

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Speaker 2: loved her very much. We met in our teens when

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Speaker 2: I instantly had a crush on her, but didn't actually

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Speaker 2: make a move until our senior year. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this comes from user weird Revolution four three two on

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Speaker 2: the r slash Okay Storytime suburt. We got married shortly

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Speaker 2: after she graduated college, and we had three children together,

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Speaker 2: Laura twenty six female, Tom twenty three male, and Mary

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Speaker 2: twenty one female. Our marriage wasn't perfect, but I thought

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Speaker 2: Candy was happy with the family and the life we created. However,

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Speaker 2: I was wrong. Candy was bored with me and wanted

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Speaker 2: more excitement. But instead of confessing her feelings and thoughts

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Speaker 2: to me, she went looking elsewhere. According to her, it

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Speaker 2: all started when Candy and her friends went on a

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Speaker 2: girl's trip to Vegas for a weekend. That's where she

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Speaker 2: Candy said that while nothing happened beyond second base, it

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Speaker 2: awakened something in her, and she regretted not going any further.

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Speaker 1: Which one's worse, her cheating on you or her not

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Speaker 1: really cheating on you, But it awakened something.

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Speaker 2: It awakened the beast. A year after that, she started

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Speaker 2: her girlfriends would cover for her. I was never the

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Speaker 2: wiser and probably would still be married to Candy if

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Speaker 2: one of her lovers hadn't secretly documented their moments together.

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Speaker 2: He was mad that she had another guy on the

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Speaker 2: side and mailed the evidence to me as revenge. I

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Speaker 2: was sicke seeing all the things that he did, and

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Speaker 2: I didn't respond well. I filed for divorce, and my

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Speaker 2: in court, but not all of it because it wasn't necessary.

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Speaker 2: I still have all the evidence that I was given

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Speaker 2: and just kept it in the attic. Recently, my youngest

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Speaker 2: made some not so great choices with an ex boyfriend

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Speaker 2: and I ended up having to get a lawyer for her.

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Speaker 2: I'm amazed at how much laws have changed, and I'm

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Speaker 2: had a serious sit down with her and told her

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Speaker 2: prepared for this to hang over her head, even if

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Speaker 2: the law is on her side, because some guys just

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Speaker 2: don't care. This was a long and deep conversation, and

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Speaker 2: I admitted to Marie about how I found out her

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Speaker 2: have the evidence. Two days later, Candy was banging at

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Speaker 2: at me for keeping it. I reminded her that those

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Speaker 2: things were given to me and it was made before

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Speaker 2: the law prohibited, so as long as I don't upload

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Speaker 2: and shared anywhere or sell to anyone, I'm legally in

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Speaker 2: the clear. This is just weird. This is weird. This

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Speaker 2: is weird. Candy went crying to our adult children. Mary

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Speaker 2: is fully on her side, which is expected, but Tom

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Speaker 2: feels that since I've never done anything with it before

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Speaker 2: Laura says that she prefers I trash it, she won't

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Speaker 2: I the a hole?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: A hole? First, Candy is an a hole. She cheated

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Speaker 2: on you. That sucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're passing that past that. That's not the issue here.

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Speaker 2: The issue is why are you keeping it? Your children

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Speaker 1: And we know Keon likes to collect Pokemon cards. We

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not for trading.

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Speaker 1: No. Never. I am so against people keeping it after

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you are kind of an a hole here by

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Speaker 2: being icky about it. Why are you keeping getting? Why

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Speaker 2: is it in the attic? What is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Photos? Is there?

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Speaker 2: Film reels? It's reels like we're in the digital age here.

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Speaker 2: Why do you need to put it in a box.

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Speaker 1: Who knows kind of weird? Who knows?

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Speaker 2: Edit too. The amount of people here who keep asking

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Speaker 2: into the post is annoying. You keep asking me why

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Speaker 2: further I will ignore it. No, we want to know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you not liking the answer or not understanding it isn't

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Speaker 2: legal purposes since it is technically evidence and it was

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Speaker 2: a good idea, and I have since explained it to

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Speaker 2: ex wife and my youngest. Also, please stop insulting my

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Speaker 2: youngest daughter or saying that she's just like her mom.

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Speaker 2: And to serve what she went through. My ex was

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Speaker 2: recorded doing something she wouldn't with someone she would not have.

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Speaker 2: That was her choice, and what came out from it

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Speaker 2: is on her. Marie never sent anything to her ex.

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Speaker 2: He recorded her when she was with him without her knowing,

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Speaker 2: Marie's understanding be very sensitive to this issue, so I'm

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Speaker 2: giving her space, and I don't believe that she'd actually

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Speaker 2: cut me off. We have some relevant comments here. Wonderful

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Speaker 2: Air eighty eight seventy seven. Just say you disposed of it.

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Speaker 2: Put it on the other corner in the attic.

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Speaker 1: There we go. Put it in a different box.

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Speaker 2: Low Technology forty eight thirty five. Honestly, this no one

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Speaker 2: on this. I'm assuming that the laws you are referring

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Speaker 2: to are revenge corn laws where it is illegal to

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Speaker 2: disseminate spicily explicit media without the consent of everyone involved.

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Speaker 2: And it sounds like your youngest daughter just went through

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Speaker 2: an intense falling out where she had her ex boyfriend

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Speaker 2: break those laws, which was very upsetting to her. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: my heart goes out to your daughter, as she certainly

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Speaker 2: felt victimized and vulnerable from her pictures being distributed without

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Speaker 2: her mother's situation, as they do resemble each other. Her

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Speaker 2: mom doesn't want you to have those videos, and she's

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Speaker 2: in them. However, there are some meaningful differences between those

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Speaker 2: two situations. The media you have is evidence of infidelity,

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Speaker 2: and you have not distributed the media in any way

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Speaker 2: nor plan to. But there's always the chance that you could,

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Speaker 2: real issue here. I think you're not the a whole

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Speaker 2: to have evidence that you're ex wife cheated on you

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Speaker 2: from the physical copies of the spicily explicit media. Even

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Speaker 2: though your wife is an awful person, I don't think

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Speaker 2: making her live with the knowledge that you have with

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Speaker 2: that kind of spicily explicit media of her is admirable

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Speaker 2: something similar. It seems very slightly hypocritical that you understood

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Speaker 2: that you needed to pursue justice for your daughter and

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Speaker 2: then keep her mother's spicily explicit media that you received

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Speaker 2: under similar circumstances. Again, you're not the A hole because

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Speaker 2: your reasoning seems well intentioned and there's been no harm done.

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Speaker 2: But the cat is out of the bag that you

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Speaker 2: own these materials. I think the right thing to do

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Speaker 2: that you need any written documents, nons cornographic media while

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Speaker 2: we're moving the explicit portions.

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Speaker 1: Mmmm, so be like were you with this man on

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Speaker 1: this night and it's like a picture of them? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That was like one of the most like a most

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Speaker 2: and well thought. Oh that was like bang bang bang

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Speaker 1: Great, Yeah, get him on the show.

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Speaker 2: Judgment says, Op, he is not the a hole, But

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Speaker 2: again I think he's his reasoning. It doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: You don't need those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I see his point of wanting to protect his

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Speaker 1: by it. Why a different point of view of it.

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Speaker 2: But you already had the divorce, you already had the proof,

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Speaker 2: you had the lawyer stuff. You don't need that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, weario what else legally do we need from this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's no point of needing it again or whatever.

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Speaker 2: The writeritor said. That was the best get rid of

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Speaker 2: long story short, my ex got arrested and my ex

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Speaker 2: is facing charges. For details, please continue reading context. I

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Speaker 2: the point where I was in tears and struggled to breathe.

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Speaker 1: Mustang nineteen sixty seven says, call the wife and tell

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Speaker 1: Our kids, especially our eldest daughter, are pressuring their mom

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Speaker 1: easiest thing you could do. What's that is joining us

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Speaker 1: What do you think about these kids?

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Speaker 2: Like divorce mom, divorce they're doing They're trying to make

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Speaker 2: this again, rip off the bandit make it as quick

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Speaker 2: She cheated on you and will cheat on you, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: You know, OPI is not in the headspace to do.

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Speaker 2: No, I think, OPI, I think you want to move on.

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Speaker 2: No matter how hard it is, You've got to get

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Speaker 1: You know how many prs this man's about the hit?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's crazy. It was worth it. And then

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Speaker 2: noodle soup, like I need I need medicine, I need you. No, No,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people who comments said I was being

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Speaker 1: fat and ugly. She felt like she didn't deserve me.

434
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 1: Zach came on to her first. She wanted to make

435
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Speaker 1: sure a man could be attracted to her without him

436
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,440
Speaker 1: being obligated to because she's the mother of his children.

437
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 1: She has spicy tango with Zach to make sure she

438
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,680
Speaker 1: can still have spicy tango. Zack didn't mean anything to her.

439
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,399
Speaker 1: I'm overreacting because Zach is a family friend and not

440
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Speaker 1: a family member. Zack's wife isn't like a daughter to us.

441
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Speaker 1: She didn't betray a woman that's like a daughter to us.

442
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 1: Other husbands have forgave their wives when the wives cheat.

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Speaker 1: If I had spicy tango with a younger woman during

444
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Speaker 1: a midlife crisis, she would have forgiven me. We have

445
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Speaker 1: four kids, We've been together for so long. I promised

446
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Speaker 1: to love her in sickness and in health.

447
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Speaker 2: Ah, what does this mean? What does that comment from

448
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 2: op that was very weird? It was like he's like

449
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 2: family with us, but he's not a family member. This

450
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 2: mean that Opie doesn't want to get through a the

451
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 2: divorce or it sounds like I don't know he's torn.

452
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Speaker 2: This is his wife and he loved her, loves her unconditionally,

453
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: and he doesn't know what he wants to do.

454
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 1: Desperate not to Dream says it's interesting how she's refusing

455
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,159
Speaker 1: to acknowledge any harm she did to the other wife.

456
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,479
Speaker 1: Opie says, Zack's wife is someone Victoria and I watched

457
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: growing up. She was like a niece. Our eldest daughter

458
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 1: was the maid of honor for their wedding. Fragrant Opportunity

459
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 1: three says menopause makes just about every woman gain weight,

460
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 1: especially in the stomach. I went through it thirteen years ago.

461
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,719
Speaker 1: Never cheated on my husband, though, Opie says, my eldest

462
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: daughter didn't appreciate it. When my wife said that when

463
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Speaker 1: she goes through at menopause, she will understand. Snarky Bean

464
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Speaker 1: Broth says, just gonna note that as someone who has

465
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: gone through the I feel fat and ugly stuff without

466
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: using it as an excuse to she having feelings about

467
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: aging can be a real struggle, but it's a struggle

468
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 1: that is on you. The person is struggling to address

469
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 1: and fix it. I've made peace with my older, slightly chubbier,

470
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: more ray self, some of it putting in the emotional

471
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: labor and some by proactively doing stuff like exercising to

472
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 1: mitigate the I feel unattractive. Isn't a free pass to

473
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 1: check out the public about one's attractiveness in that please

474
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 1: vote with your wiener kind of way. If she needed

475
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 1: outside validation beyond you telling her and showing her that

476
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: you still loved her and found her attractive, there were

477
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: plenty of ways that didn't involve someone else's wiener. Still

478
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 1: not the ahole. I'm saddened for all of you involved

479
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: in the blast radius of this crap show. Op says,

480
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Speaker 1: thank you. I was there constantly telling her how beautiful

481
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: I found her. Why would she need another man to

482
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: feel better? And Purple loving Brunette says, I'm in early

483
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: stages of minute pause. It hasn't caused me to cheat.

484
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: It didn't cause my stepmom to cheat. Such a lame

485
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 1: excuse on why she cheated. I find it funny that

486
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: Zach was seeing another woman while she was seeing the

487
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Speaker 1: married woman. The wife lost everything. I hope her affair

488
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: partner was worth it. Zack's wife and the husband can

489
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: beat each other's support system. Be so ironic if he

490
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 1: and Zach's wife got together, OHP says I had watched

491
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Speaker 1: Zach's wife grow up, she's like in east. To me,

492
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: it would be icky for a lack of a better term,

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Speaker 1: this is the last comment Op has made. Okay, so

494
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Speaker 1: he's not going after Zach's wife.

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Speaker 2: I don't see how anyone would paint Op as an

496
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 2: a hole. That shouldn't be the case. I don't think

497
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Speaker 2: like any of his actions. All his actions were very understandable.

498
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Speaker 1: I could see like not Victoria one oh one saying he's.

499
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Speaker 2: A okay, well do you think divorce.

500
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: Because there in that stage, say.

501
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 2: It's like so late. They've been together for so long.

502
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Speaker 1: Now, why why be with someone you resent?

503
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: Because it was a one time mistake. It was a menopause.

504
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: It was a menopause. It was menopause.

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Speaker 1: No, she doesn't want to work on it. He's definitely

506
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: not in the headspace to work on it. They just

507
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: need it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can you imagine that? Like her excuse was I'm

509
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: not looking good, i don't feel good, i'll overweight, i

510
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: feel ugly. And he's like, no, you're the most beautiful

511
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Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen in this planet. And she's like,

512
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Speaker 2: that's not the validation I needed. I need a younger

513
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Speaker 2: man to validate me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough, too toxic. That is the end ofnet

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Speaker 1: story and this episode.

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Speaker 2: I've caught my two married friends cheating, so I exposed

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Speaker 2: them double whammy. Hello Reddit, This is a complicated story,

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Speaker 2: so I will try to explain it the best I can.

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Speaker 2: I Female twenty five play Webmmo RPG video game.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: I've met many people, I became friends with many, and

527
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Speaker 2: I've actually met some in real life and consider them

528
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Speaker 2: close friends. This video game is where I met my boyfriend,

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Speaker 2: Male twenty eight. By the way, this comes from user

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Speaker 2: lucky Sarah six two three on the r slash Okay

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Speaker 2: storytime suppered. So this story begins two years ago on

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Speaker 2: October twenty twenty two spooky season, when my boyfriend's friends

533
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: were planning a gathering in our city. At the moment,

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Speaker 2: one of them, Male thirty let's call him Jack. Jack

535
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Speaker 2: had been talking to a girl in one of the games,

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Speaker 2: Female thirty two, let's call her Chris for a while

537
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 2: and had experiencing feelings for her. The issue is that

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00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: Jack has been married for eight years and has two

539
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Speaker 2: children under seven years old. Jack is from our city

540
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: but moved to the US many years ago. However, Chris

541
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: is from our city and was planning on meeting her

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00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: during the game gathering. The host mail thirty two of

543
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: the event told Jack that he didn't want Chris near

544
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Speaker 2: his house because he is a firm believer of loyalty.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Besides, the host had already met Jack's wife and he

547
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: felt it was messed up to be a part of

548
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 2: the betrayal. In the end, Jack was trying to convince

549
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: the host to receive her just for the first day

550
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: of the meeting. In that moment, Jack asked for my

551
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: advice about the topic and what to do, and I

552
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: was honest with him. For me, loyalty is very black

553
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Speaker 2: and white. I told him that he really liked Chris,

554
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: he should tell his wife and open their marriage or divorce,

555
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: but to talk about it first we go, there we go.

556
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: He said divorce was not a possibility due to his

557
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: children and decided he was not going to try anything

558
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: with Chris since she wasn't worth all what he was

559
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: going to lose. Back to the day of the meeting,

560
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: they arrived together to the house of the host. Jack

561
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,239
Speaker 2: told the boys in some point of the party that

562
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Speaker 2: they had already hooked up before the party. As hard

563
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: as a it was for me, it was not my

564
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: issue and had to move on. After all, Chris became

565
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: part of our group of friends. We ended up meeting

566
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: more people from the game, and she was already part

567
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Speaker 2: of the group. I learn that she's also married with

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Speaker 2: Tom Tomas Mail thirty three.

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Speaker 1: So Chris is married.

570
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Speaker 2: So Chris is married, and Jack is married. Even when

571
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Speaker 2: all of us have talked about inviting their respective partners,

572
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: we have never met neither Jack nor Chris's partner, and

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Speaker 2: that relief of the guilt had to be honest. I

574
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: couldn't tell for sure if they were really cheating, since

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Speaker 2: no one had seemed to do anything in one of

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Speaker 2: our meetings. In January twenty twenty three, we gathered at

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Speaker 2: Jack's house in our city. Yes, he flies here just

578
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Speaker 2: to see Chris. At some point of the night, I

579
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: saw both of them going to the kitchen, and my

580
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: beverage was also empty. So after a couple of minutes,

581
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: I went inside and caught them making out. He was

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Speaker 2: holding two of her arms above her head against the

583
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Speaker 2: wall and had another of his hands on her waist

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Speaker 2: inside her shirt while they were kissing. I was shocked,

585
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: just closed my eyes and cursed in my head, and

586
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: they both ran away from the kitchen and never said

587
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Speaker 2: a word to me. I told my boyfriend what I saw,

588
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: and he was disappointed. Also, we have never had the

589
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 2: proof that they were doing things, so we thought it

590
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: could be them just being flirty. After asking for advice

591
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: to people who don't know them, we got to the

592
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: point where maybe we should just let it slide and

593
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: I should just not get involved. And again I hadn't

594
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: met their respective partners, so the guilt did not feel personal.

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Speaker 1: Ope, it's gonna be hard, but you have to do

596
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Speaker 1: the right I think.

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Speaker 2: Everything changed in April twenty twenty three, Chris, another girl

598
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 2: from the group, and I had a sleepover at Chris's house,

599
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: so I ended up meeting Chris's partner, and that's when

600
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: the guilt really hit me. I felt really awful During

601
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: the whole night. Tom turned to be a really nice

602
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: guy and was consistently showing the love he feels for her.

603
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: I can't describe how loving and caring he is for her.

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00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: The only thing I could think of is that Chris

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00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: is constantly cheating on Tom with Jack. During the same night,

606
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Speaker 2: I made the mistake to share some personal details about myself.

607
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: An ex boyfriend who I also met in the game,

608
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: was threatened me to share my personal photos on the

609
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: internet just for fun. Was already taking legal actions, but

610
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: I was really anxious and afraid, so I really needed

611
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: to talk and ended up sharing this with the girls.

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00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: Back to the main story, my boyfriend kept telling Jack

613
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 2: that he was really messing up by cheating on his wife.

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00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: Jack was the one who always started the conversation, and

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00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: in some point he confessed to me that his wife

616
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: is also cheating on him, so that's why he doesn't

617
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: care about it. He decided he was going to do

618
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: whatever he wanted when he found out his wife was cheating.

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Speaker 2: What is this?

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Speaker 1: What we reating?

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00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: What game are we playing? After some months, Jack kept

622
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: flying to our city every two to three months to

623
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: see Chris. The excuse was that he came to visit us.

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00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: At some point, her husband and his wife ended up

625
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: meeting us. At some point we met with their respective partners,

626
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: Jack and Chris's partners, and that's when my boyfriend also

627
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: felt the enormous guilt. He got along so well with Tom,

628
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: he said, he was so nice, charming, and caring for her.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't understand either, how she could do this to him.

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00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: I talked about it many times with my boyfriend, but

631
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: we didn't have any proof. Besides what I saw some

632
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: other drama happen. At some point, we thought that they

633
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: had a finally stopped, but we were wrong. A few

634
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: days ago, my boyfriend and I hosted the party for Christmas.

635
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Speaker 2: For a quick background, since I started to live alone

636
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: before moving in with my boyfriend, my dad getted me

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Speaker 2: a security camera. Since then, i've had one in my house,

638
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: and when we moved in, we placed the camera inside

639
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: our apartment facing the entrance. Our apartment is small, so

640
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: the camera's view is just the door, the kitchen table,

641
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: and the dishwasher. Which usually check in on our dogs

642
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: with it and use it for safety, but to be honest,

643
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: we always forget about it. The party was outside our apartment,

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00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: and at some point Jack and Chris were inside the

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00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: house for a longer period of time, but I didn't

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00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: think much about it. What do you mean what do

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00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: you mean you didn't think much about it that the

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00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: two people who are literally cheating on their partners. OPI

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00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: you're you're kind of pissing me off.

650
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you've been since you first known about it.

651
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: After a while, I started to pick up some unused

652
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: stuff and took them inside. I saw Jack, Chris, and

653
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: another friend on my way in. When Jack stopped me

654
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: to ask me if the camera was a working security camera,

655
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: and I said yeah. He asked what did we use

656
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: it for, and I said for both security and watching

657
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: over our dogs. He looked like he wanted to say

658
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: something else and had a face like he was worried,

659
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: and so did Chris. He asked why did it speak,

660
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: and I said that it had a motion tracker and

661
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: that he configured it to say hello, welcome when it

662
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: detected a person. He said nothing more, so I kept

663
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: doing my own thing.

664
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: He's like, he wants to get caught too.

665
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, I need someone to just put it

666
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: out there. Obviously, I instantly thought about the possibility of

667
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: them getting recorded while kissing. I didn't care much about

668
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: it in that moment, However, the rest of the night.

669
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: Both of them were acting very strange. They were constantly

670
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: going to a corner to speak. At some point they

671
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: were inside for around ten minutes with the excuse of

672
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: doing a dip for nachos. Excuse me, excuse me, guys,

673
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: I gotta go take a dip for nachos. After that,

674
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: they went outside and I heard her say, just do

675
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: it fast and clean, but don't base it directly. And

676
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: that's when I thought they were going to do something

677
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: to the camera and went inside a minute after him.

678
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: The cameray was only a plug, and I laughed a little,

679
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: and that's when I told my boyfriend what was going on.

680
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: He was a bit mad that they were trying to

681
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: mess with our stuff and asked me to plug it

682
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: in and check if it was okay before they left.

683
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 2: I plugged it back in and started to check at

684
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: the recordings, and what I found shocked me. I found

685
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: the moment that they were passionately kissing only that, luckily,

686
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: but also found that the moment they were trying to

687
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: mess with the camera, and that kind of pissed us off.

688
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: Not only did they not care about being in our

689
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: house and making us part of their cheating, but they

690
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: were also messing around with our stuff. We also talked

691
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: about the fact that they thought that they had stopped

692
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: cheating on their respective partners for at least twenty twenty

693
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: four and we caught them cheating again. We instantly thought

694
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: about Tom and that how he really deserves to know

695
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: that his wife has been cheating on him for the

696
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: last two years.

697
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: Ah, we thought like it was about Tommy knew.

698
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: Ope, you and your boyfriend suck everyone, but Tom here

699
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: sucks well.

700
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: We don't know. We could have an unreliable narrator on

701
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: Jack's wife or Jack.

702
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. It is really hard because we've seen

703
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: the amount of effort, time, money that Tom puts into

704
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: the relationship, and we really believe that it shouldn't be

705
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: like that.

706
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: Why didn't you go You.

707
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: Should have said that in the first freaking place. The

708
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 2: poor guy is living in a lie and he's the

709
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: only one who doesn't know. We also know that they

710
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: both have always wanted kids, but due to issues with

711
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: her being infertile, he gave up on his dream of

712
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: being a dad in order to be with her. I

713
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: don't have the power to yell. I'm still recovering from

714
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: a sickness but I want to scream at the top

715
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: of my lungs and how stupid you are, Opie. Chris

716
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: has diabetes and Tom is always being extra cautious with

717
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: her food, like buying her sugar free cats up or

718
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: having no sugar in the house, buying sugar free snacks

719
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: for both, et cetera. It is a really complex situation,

720
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: and I know it is not my place to judge,

721
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: but he really deserves to know the whole story. Another

722
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: thing that is keeping me from telling him is the

723
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: fear of her going to my ex and asking him

724
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: to post my pictures, which is a very high possibility.

725
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: So Reddit, what are your thoughts. I've told my thoughts.

726
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 2: I've sprinkled this all throughout. But my thoughts are you

727
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: are a scumbag. You should have told this a long

728
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: time ago. This is just all muffled and everyone sucks here.

729
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: I've said it. Everyone's gross here. The fact that Tom

730
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: is just a generously good guy, and you're like, h

731
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: it's not my face.

732
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a good guy.

733
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: Long story short. We decided to tell Tom, I think

734
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: even if it had rep percussions against me.

735
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: Oh so, they were afraid someone would happen to them.

736
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 2: We decided that the best was to have a one

737
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: on one man's talk between Tom and my boyfriend. It

738
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: was hard to contact him, but we managed to get

739
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: to him. Since I wasn't there, I will tell the

740
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: version my boyfriend told me for the surprise of no one.

741
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: He was furious more than ten years was thrown out

742
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: like garbage. He told us that he had already discussed

743
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: divorce in the past due to marital issues, but it

744
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: was paused after psychological counseling that they had been working on.

745
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: They've been going to therapy for the last four months. However,

746
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: this was the last drop. Many other things were said,

747
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: but I guess it is not worth mentioning them. Hope

748
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: they can figure it out, and I feel very relieved.

749
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: We have a quick update. We hadn't told jack spouse

750
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: yet because we wanted to give Tom the time to

751
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: plan everything. Seems like he went straight home to confront

752
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Chris right away, and I'm not sure about those detail.

753
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: At the end of the night, Jack's wife contacted us.

754
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: She was a bit aggressive with me, so my boyfriend

755
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: decided to be the one to talk to her and

756
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: asked her if they could have a phone talk Jack's

757
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: wife told us that he came clean and that at

758
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: a party, Chris kissed him without him noticing the tape.

759
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: Pull up, the pull up the recording. We, unfortunately, were

760
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: the ones who had to tell her the whole truth.

761
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: She was obviously devastated, and we offered her the videos

762
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: and she said she would love to have them since

763
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: they would be very useful in court to fight for

764
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: her two children. We mentioned to her that in the past,

765
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Jack told us that one of the reasons he was

766
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: cheating on her was because she was also cheating on him.

767
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: And you know what, We'll never cheat on you. When

768
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: we go live three pm PST on weekdays, we go

769
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: live on YouTube, TikTok Twitch, Facebook, just tap her profile

770
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: tab it. She was shocked to hear it, and she

771
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: mentioned that it was a complete lie, that she could

772
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: never do that.

773
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So Jackson is just.

774
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: The worst a hold on the planet.

775
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: This whole friend group sucks, man, Yeah, everyone in that

776
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: friend group sucks.

777
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: And mentioned that even if I ever wanted to, which

778
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: I never did, how could I cheat on him since

779
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: I'm always in my house alone with my children with

780
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: no friends or family. She told us that she was

781
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: planning flying back to our country. Jack's family lives in

782
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: the US as soon as possible. Chris also contacted us,

783
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: and it didn't go so well. She asked us to

784
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: stay out of her life and to stop messaging Tom.

785
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: Conversation went in circles, so we stopped replying, and that's

786
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: the end of that story.

787
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: Thank goodness, dude, goodness, you had the heart to do

788
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: something about this.

789
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: I want a tier list here of who is the

790
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: worst of the worst, So we have.

791
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: We got cheaters up top.

792
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: Jack, Chris, Ope, Opie's boyfriend. I was gonna say Jack's wife,

793
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: but Jack's wife is now innocent.

794
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: Innocent, innocent, So so Tom, Tom is a saint and

795
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: Jack's wife innocent innocent unfortunately, and Op and your boyfriend

796
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: are not innocent in this s tier. The cheaters a

797
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: tier Op and Op's boyfriend.

798
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: Jack. You're the worst person Jack is to the to

799
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: the ort cloud.

800
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: But that's that story. Yeah, thank god, got another one

801
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: coming right at you. Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get

802
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: back to these stories. But here's three of its bads

803
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: from our sponsors that keep the show alive. My friend

804
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: cheated on her husband, but karma caught up to her.

805
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: I love a good karma story.

806
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: This story is about my ex best friend from high school,

807
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: a walking foreshadow of how people obsessed with cheating or

808
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: often the first to cheat. Warning, this story is very long.

809
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: Buckle in here we go, by the way. This comes

810
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: from Interesting Ad thirty two on the r slash Okay

811
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: story Tom subredded.

812
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: So.

813
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: I met Emily fictional name in the last year of

814
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: high school. I was starting at a new school, and

815
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: we became friends quickly because we had the same musical taste.

816
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: She had a boyfriend who was one year older, let's

817
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: call him Noah, and had already finished high school, and

818
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: he was clearly in love with Emily. He was a

819
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: very nice guy, and during the last year we started

820
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: going out a lot in a large group together me,

821
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: her and a boyfriend, his friends, and some other friends

822
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: I made in our classes, all of us between sixteen

823
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: and nineteen years old. One of them later became my

824
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: boyfriend as well. I was very young, but something about

825
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: Emily and Noah's relationship seemed strange to me. He was

826
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: clearly in love with her and very easy going and friendly. She,

827
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: on the other hand, was extremely controlling to the point

828
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: of being aggressive with him in front of friends if

829
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: she thought he had looked at a girl, or if

830
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: any of them made a joke she didn't like. I

831
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: found this a bit concerning at the time, but I

832
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: just thought she had a strong personality. Years went by,

833
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: and when Emily went to college in the same place

834
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: where Noah was attending, she started to change a lot.

835
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: The group was still very close and we used to

836
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: go out together frequently, but she now had a new

837
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: group of friends and at the new college, has started

838
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: to act differently, dressed differently, as if she were mirroring

839
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: her new friends. That year, she made an excuse not

840
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: to come up to my birthday party, or should be

841
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: held at a bar, because that bar is known to

842
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: have too many gay people, and neither she nor her

843
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: boyfriend came. I found it so weird was she thinking

844
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: that Noah? Could she on her with men too? A

845
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: few days later I saw a picture of her with

846
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: her new friends and realized she had gone out with

847
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: them on my birthday. I was very upset, and we

848
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: started to drift apart a bit because I became closer

849
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: with other members of the same group. At this point,

850
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: I had already started dating my boyfriend now husband, and

851
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: he never got along well with Emily. He found her fake,

852
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: into controlling, someone who was toxic and always pissed at

853
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: everyone and everything. I would end up defending her a

854
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: bit signing time she helped me and stood by me,

855
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: thinking she would eventually get tired about faking a personality

856
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: and go back to how we were at the first

857
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: year of a friendship. I was wrong. Soon she had

858
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: a falling out with her new friends and found another

859
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: group of friends who were completely different, and her looks

860
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: and personalities change completely again. That year, Emily's relationship with

861
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: Noah was slowly going downhill. They had been dating for

862
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: a long time, things weren't progressing. We organized a New

863
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: Year's Eve party for the whole group and they had

864
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: a huge fight over something made up in Emily's head

865
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: about how he didn't value her enough. Emily always seemed

866
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: unsatisfied with everything. A few days later, they announced to

867
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: us that they were engaged.

868
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: Oh no today.

869
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: I think Noah didn't want to break up and thought

870
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: that taking the next step in their relationship would solve

871
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: the couple's problems.

872
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 2: That never does.

873
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: He couldn't have been more wrong. The wedding was quite modest,

874
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: held at a courthouse, as at the time, the couple

875
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: and in fact all of us, didn't have the means

876
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: for a big wedding. After the courthouse part, there was

877
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: a big celebration paid by their parents. Both families were

878
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: quite large and got along well. My boyfriend and I

879
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: were there on this occasion, we met one of Emily's

880
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: childhood friends, whom we'll call Eve. I found it strange

881
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: that I heard very little about Eve, about how she

882
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: was clearly one of Emily's great livetong friends and had

883
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: left school before I got there because she had moved

884
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: to another city. He was a very nice person. I

885
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: still follow her on social media and we exchanged a

886
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: few words sometimes, although we're not friends, and she was

887
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: very happy to be at the wedding. We talked a

888
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: lot about the celebration, and she told me many stories

889
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: about her and Emily from their school days. And I

890
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: was surprised about what I discovered.

891
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 2: Well, was that wud you discover true all aboard?

892
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: When I met Eve, I immediately noticed that her hair color

893
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: was the same as Emily's when I first met her.

894
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: She dyed her hair at the same time in fact,

895
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: Emily's entire style was different now, but Eve's appearance was

896
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: identical to how Emily tried to look when I first

897
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: met her. I realized that, just as Emily copied the

898
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: style of her friends today, she was trying to look

899
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: like Eve back then, and there was a reason for that.

900
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: Even thoughah had a crush on each other back in

901
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: high school, it was Emily who had came between them

902
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: and went after her friend's crush. Eve didn't say this directly,

903
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: but the story she told me made it very clear.

904
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: She also seemed to have gotten over it and held

905
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: no grudge, being genuinely happy for them. But for me,

906
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: it revealed a side my then friend no longer my

907
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: BFF at that point that I didn't know. Initially, the

908
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 1: marriage was going very well. No his family had given

909
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: them an apartment that had belonged to his grandmother, and

910
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: their home became a meeting point for our group, and

911
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: at this point in our lives, each of us had

912
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: followed our own personal and professional paths, but we still

913
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: saw each other frequently to play board games drink together.

914
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: During this time we became close again. Emily started to

915
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: become more and more toxic. Emily began fixating on my boyfriend.

916
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: Wait what, Emily already married. But you know what she likes, dude,

917
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: OPI's boyfriend.

918
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, the chase. She loves the chase.

919
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of it, just like.

920
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: On board now, saying that I didn't control him enough.

921
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: She said that men need to be put in their

922
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: place and called me stupid and submissive for not putting

923
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: my boyfriend in his place. Oh no, she clearly wanted

924
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: to create a fight between me and my boyfriend. I

925
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: said that if a man needed me to control his

926
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: every move to force him to stay with me, then

927
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: I would rather not be in a relationship because that

928
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: was too exhausting. She ignored me, kept insisting that I

929
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: should always check his phone and I was stupid for

930
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: not doing so, and that men are always looking for

931
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: excuses to cheat, and that I would regret my decisions

932
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: one day for shadowing.

933
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: Do you think Noah cheats on her?

934
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Some weeks later, I organized my boyfriend's birthday

935
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: party and called everyone to attend, including Emily and Noah nice.

936
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: At one point during the party, she pulls me aside

937
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: and starts arguing with me, saying that his colleague is

938
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: hitting on him. She wasn't. She thought it was absurd

939
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: that I didn't break up with my boyfriend right then

940
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: and there, and also fought with her own husband, Noah,

941
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: for talking too nicely to that salute. Some time had passed,

942
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: then life kept going and we stopped visiting Noah and Emily.

943
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: I was angry with her for the scene that she

944
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: made at my boyfriend's birthday party and started to accept

945
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: that she was truly a toxic person. When we talked

946
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: over the phone, it was only about herself and her

947
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: new business ventures, and began trying to pitch the MLM stuff.

948
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: She was never interested in my life, but deep down

949
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: I believe she was still a good person. She had

950
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: a lot of problems and needed therapy. Seems to me

951
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: that she was only showing her true colors. Some months later, okay,

952
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: Noah invited people to a gathering at their house to drink, well,

953
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: listen to music. It's spend time together. My boyfriend and

954
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: I decided to go since it was no inviting and

955
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: by this point we cared more for him than for

956
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: Emily herself. Then we got there, some people from our

957
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: group were there. There were also new people who we

958
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: found were Noah's coworkers. Okay, but as and I went on,

959
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: I started to feel like something was weird. Emily seemed

960
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: to be getting along nicely with Noah's co workers, even

961
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: though I knew she usually didn't like it when he

962
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: met new people. At a certain point of the night,

963
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: she started to get really irritated for no reason. At

964
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: one point, she snapped at Noah for some insignificant thing,

965
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: making everyone uncomfortable. You know when you see this really

966
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: weird hostility between a couple and start to think you

967
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't be there, or that something is happening and you

968
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: don't want to be a part of it. I ended

969
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: up telling my boyfriend that I was tired, and we

970
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: quickly went home. A month went by without us hearing

971
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: from Emily or no no At the time, social media

972
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: wasn't as prevalent as it is today, and even now,

973
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: Noah maintains a very low profile online. We just went

974
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: on with their lives without thinking too much about what

975
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: had happened that night till one day a mutual friend

976
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: of ours and Noah's, who was closer than we were

977
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: to him, sent us a message saying that something had happened,

978
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: and that he was with Noah at the hospital because

979
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: remember she was being aggressive towards him earlier in the relationship.

980
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, do you think they jumped to that?

981
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: Oh?

982
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: No, I hope not. What would you tell, like, what

983
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: would you do here? Would you try and talk to

984
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: Emily or would you go to Noah?

985
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: I would try Emily being my friend. Yeah, girl, what

986
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Why are we acting this way?

987
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: Why are you so why are you just so toxic? Girl?

988
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Go to therapy? We were shocked. We went to meet

989
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,959
Speaker 1: his friend, who explained to us what had happened over

990
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: the past month. Emily had been cheating on Noah for

991
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: months with one of his coworkers. We saw the last

992
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: time we had visited their house. Hell, we even considered

993
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: this guy his friend. This coworker who will call Lucas

994
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: was engaged at the time.

995
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: They always are.

996
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: Lucas and Emily even traveled together once. While Emily said

997
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: to Noah she was traveling alone for work. He discovered

998
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: the whole thing when she left the pictures of the

999
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: trip on their PC desktop, and one of the pictures

1000
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: was of Emily and Lucas kissing. Oh my god, so

1001
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: she's an idiot too.

1002
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: She's an idiot. She's a toxic idiot.

1003
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: When discovered, she shrugged it off. Emily seems only irritated

1004
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: by Noah's emotional reaction, saying it was just a kiss

1005
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: and he was overreacting. According to what my friends told me,

1006
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: she seemed quite indifferent to the relationship. They had been

1007
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: together for twelve years, including marriage and dating, and Dinny

1008
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: even seem interested in settling the matter. Noah wanted to

1009
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: stay together, wanted to give for her some time alone

1010
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: and maybe open the relationship.

1011
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: Of course he did.

1012
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: She just left the house and moved in with Lucas

1013
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: into the house that he and his fiance had bought.

1014
00:44:59,000 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: What is going on?

1015
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: Their wedding was already scheduled, and this man was traveling

1016
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: with his coworker's wife and brought her to her fiance's

1017
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: new home. I mean wow. Noah was devastated. A week

1018
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: after she left, he tried to remove himself from this planet.

1019
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: A mutual friend was the one that found him and

1020
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: saved him. Noah eventually recovered. He spent a long time

1021
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: picking up the pieces of his life while trying to

1022
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: move on. Emily disappeared from our lives seemingly forever. At

1023
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: that point, I realized I never meant nothing to her.

1024
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: She never tried to tell me her side of the

1025
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: story or talk to me about what was happening. She

1026
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: just erased me from her life as if I never existed,

1027
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: erased all of us. Started her new life with Lucas.

1028
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: She deleted her profile on all social media platforms, and

1029
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: I realized I truly knew nothing about who this person

1030
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: who claimed to be my friend was. Although we remained

1031
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: good friends with Noah, the group gradually fell apart over

1032
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: time as new people got married and moved away and

1033
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: had kids. He found someone new. I met Noah's new

1034
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: girlfriend a year after his divorce from Emily, and she's

1035
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: an amazing person.

1036
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: Thank goodness, he deserves it. I feel bad for the guy.

1037
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: She was also a coworker, but from a different department,

1038
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: so she would only see him in the hallways occasionally,

1039
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: and admired him from afar. After his marriage ended, she

1040
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: finally saw her chance and they started dating. Noah had

1041
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: many traumas from his previous relationship, but they worked through

1042
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: them and they are still together. They seemed happy at

1043
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: the time I had contact with him, I also heard

1044
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: from musual acquaintances that Emily married Lucas quickly. For me,

1045
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: that was the end of the story. However, as I mentioned,

1046
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: I still follow Eve on Instagram. One day, out of

1047
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: the blue, Emily was there. It was like seeing a ghost.

1048
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: I didn't understand what was happening and asked, Eve, Wow,

1049
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: you found Emily. We haven't talked in a long time.

1050
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: How is she? And Eve told me what had happened.

1051
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: To no one's surprise, Lucas had cheated on Emily. They

1052
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: had been married for five years, and he had kicked

1053
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: her out of the house, which was now occupied by

1054
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: the other woman. I honestly couldn't feel sorry for her,

1055
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: as it seemed like a big case of now Emily

1056
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: had no friends. She had excluded everyone from her life,

1057
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: and her only friends were those in common with Lucas

1058
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: because he was too jealous and afraid she would cheat

1059
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: on him. I've never seen a couple deserve each other

1060
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: so much. Frankly, I was being a little petty for

1061
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: asking what had happened. I guess Eve even asked me

1062
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: if I would be willing to go out with all

1063
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: the girls somedays since she had moved back into the

1064
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: CD recently, I politely declined. I decided I wasn't going

1065
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: to become a plan B friend for someone like Emily.

1066
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Eve didn't insist, and I insist. You join us live

1067
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: every weekend at three pm PST on every platform. Were

1068
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: on YouTube, Twitch, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok. Join us right now.

1069
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: Occasionally I still see Eve posting pictures of the two

1070
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: of them together, but Emily seems so out of place.

1071
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: Noah moved to another country and has had a great

1072
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: career in his field going on, Emily looks like she

1073
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: never really found what she wants or even who she is.

1074
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: I would be wary if I was Eve. Though the end,

1075
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: I guess we will see. Wow.

1076
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: Good for Noah. I guess car Arma did come around.

1077
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: What goes around comes around. It did take some time,

1078
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: and thankfully Noah figured it out. That's great. Who Emily

1079
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: moved on to. This guy's gotta be making a lot

1080
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: of money or something, or this guy's got power, this

1081
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: guy's got something, He's got spunk.

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