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Speaker 1: next three hours. Welcome to the show. I'm John Murphy.

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Speaker 1: You know it's great. On the changeover, the Instigators do

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Speaker 1: We got about a five minute thing. We don't have

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Speaker 1: to watch the Instigators at all. We get the Instigators

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Speaker 1: they've been talking about it for two hours, all of

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Speaker 1: entire thing boiled down. You can sell, you can sell

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Speaker 1: the conversation between these shows as a as a fan experience.

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Speaker 1: You come in and listen to the instigators and one

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Speaker 1: about our team and their team, because that goes on too,

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Speaker 1: and truth be told, they ask about the bills, right,

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Speaker 1: in fact, didn't it start that way today? That's right?

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Speaker 1: They ask us what about this? What about that? What

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Speaker 1: a good podcast. It change over, change over, the changeover

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Speaker 1: on the fly, change on the fly like hockey players.

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Speaker 1: not ready, not ready, right, We're not ready. We're not ready.

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Speaker 1: We got stuff to hook up because it's it's kind

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Speaker 1: and then because it comes out more again, we have

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Speaker 1: more fun that way. It's just, you know, because it

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Speaker 1: is the host of Good Morning Football on NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: the NFL on Fox. He is their officiating expert. There's

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Speaker 1: always officiated to talk about in the NFL. And there

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Speaker 1: And people are chiming in. They want Al Riveron's head

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Speaker 1: Do you do you get that sense too? Well, here's

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Speaker 1: the way the league works. They don't like to acknowledge it,

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Speaker 1: talk with Mike Prayer about this that very topic, and

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Speaker 1: your first rounder or more than one? Um, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just heard he whined out of there, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know how it is. Now what if you had

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Speaker 1: to give up a one and a two? I don't

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Speaker 1: know about that. Yeah, I agree, And that's the thing too.

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Speaker 1: Steph Diggs might be pretty good, but it's a high

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Speaker 1: price to pay for a team that has really, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, drafted really well with I think I think

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean and Sean McDermot have drafted really really well.

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Speaker 1: At least at this point. It looks like that you

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Speaker 1: got those guys that they've drafted, for the most part

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Speaker 1: really contributing um with the one exception is what uh

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Speaker 1: Zay Jones is one, But everybody else from all the

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Speaker 1: way from the fifth round on up have really contributed

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Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form on on all maybe

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Speaker 1: all three of those, joy I can't go back over

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Speaker 1: the top, but man, it seems to me like the

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Speaker 1: draft picks that this team has used in the last

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Speaker 1: two or three years have been really big contributors. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to give up picks like that for multiple

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Speaker 1: picks like that for Steph Diggs? I don't know. I don't. Oh, now, hey,

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Speaker 1: if you can do it, if you can do it

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Speaker 1: for a seventh or fifth, yeah, I get a guy

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Speaker 1: who makes it for a seventh or a fifth, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am so, And I get it. If you're if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get if you're gonna need a layup, you know,

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna say, hey, we need Steph Diggs once out.

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Speaker 1: We think it's kind of a He's a great guy,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to play here anymore. Take a

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Speaker 1: fifth for him. Yeah, okay, but I ain't given up.

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Speaker 1: I'm not giving up two twos or one in a two,

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Speaker 1: or even a two and a three. I know I'm

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Speaker 1: not just gonna do that. Here's a trade advocate, the

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Speaker 1: Butcher and Buffalo Butcher. What's on your mind? Hey, John

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Speaker 1: and Steve, thanks so much for taking them out called

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Speaker 1: great show, great topic. I'm gonna kind of disagree with you, Steve.

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Speaker 1: I really believe that all these years we've been building

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Speaker 1: this football team, we've been keeping our draft picks, were

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Speaker 1: using our draft picks. We finally built this football team

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Speaker 1: on one side of the ball, a little bit on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, this is the perfect

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Speaker 1: opportunity to strike. It's only one player that I'm trading for,

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Speaker 1: and that is Steph Diggs. Anyone else I'll stayed, of course,

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Speaker 1: like you said. But but but to get Steph Diggs,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to give them for a

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick. I'll go ahead and give them a two.

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Speaker 1: I give him a two this year, two next year. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm not i'mn be honest with you. I even get

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Speaker 1: give up a one one time. That's a one only

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Speaker 1: because I know my team is going to be drafted

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Speaker 1: later in the rounds than we do this year. Our

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Speaker 1: draft department, our scouting department, has know how to take

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Speaker 1: players in later rounds that we can afford at least

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Speaker 1: one time, but one special player, and Stefan Diggs is

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Speaker 1: one special player that can give us enough punch to

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Speaker 1: put us over to hunt for this Super Bowl. But

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Speaker 1: let me just slow you down and tell me what

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Speaker 1: they're missing at the wide receiver spot right now. What

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Speaker 1: they're missing right now, John It is a deep threat

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Speaker 1: and before last year, John and we have one on

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Speaker 1: the team, but for some of our reason, they're not

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Speaker 1: using them like they did last year. And if if

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Speaker 1: that's all we're missing, we're missing someone just to stretch

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Speaker 1: the field, so Beasley can go underneath, so so John

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Speaker 1: Brown can go underneath, so Williams can go underneath. All right,

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Speaker 1: but to the back, let me tell you this. Here's

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. If you get Steph Diggs in here,

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Speaker 1: and you're giving up a player of the caliber of

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds in return for him, you're giving Tremaine Edmonds

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Speaker 1: or a player like Tremaine Edmonds who they drafted late

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Speaker 1: in what a pick was he uh lates bottom third

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Speaker 1: of the first round, bottom third of the first round.

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Speaker 1: You're giving up a Tremaine Edmonds for Steph Diggs. Okay,

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Speaker 1: can I can? I can? I can? I with that state? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, here's the CounterPunch. I concur with what you

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Speaker 1: just said. That that that pick. We got a nice

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Speaker 1: player for that pick. But we also got a Duke

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Speaker 1: Williams for free, you understand me, And so for so forth,

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Speaker 1: Duke wins for free with the challenge we got for

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Speaker 1: free along with a pick like you just said, I

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Speaker 1: can compensate that. I can. I can? I can. I

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Speaker 1: can make that happen at least one time down for

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Speaker 1: this one only special player, Steve, just one special player.

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Speaker 1: Anybody I agree with you? Steve? Yeah, anybody. Here's my

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Speaker 1: here's my here's my count. I get you, But you're right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a guy. Here's my point, and here's

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Speaker 1: what I've seen happen a bunch. Okay, will you get

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Speaker 1: a guy like that where everybody wants to trade for

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Well, once you get that and then

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Speaker 1: you you go, you know, two and two over your

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Speaker 1: next four or whatever. Then here's what's gonna happen. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you this, what's gonna happen. You can see it

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Speaker 1: happen in two. Butch there's gonna be another piece that

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Speaker 1: you chase. Now, now we need an offensive lineman. So

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna chase that one, and then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: chase another piece. Because every time you chase a guy,

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Speaker 1: though you think that's one missing pieces, you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: one special player. It's gonna put you over the top.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you end up where the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills were three years ago, seventeen years of a drought,

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Speaker 1: salary cap jail, because you've gone out and got all

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Speaker 1: these little pieces that you thought would be the one

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Speaker 1: to put you over the hump. When an actuality to

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Speaker 1: do that, you abandon what put you in position to

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Speaker 1: be four and one in the first place, and that's

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Speaker 1: staying inside the lines. Okay, Steve, you go ahead, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: butch Rama's at the time here we go ahead. I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, but I'm gonna say Steve you were

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Speaker 1: on a football team. Yeah, we got Cornelius been in

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Speaker 1: a blockbuster trade the same year we got Shane Collins.

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Speaker 1: And at the same time, that was one piece that

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Speaker 1: Bill Polley made his name. He stated his name. He's

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame now for that one trade.

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying right now, Brandon being and

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Speaker 1: mcdermay has been doing it the right way this time.

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Speaker 1: This is one time only where they have to make

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Speaker 1: that splash. And Stefan Diggs is that splash just like

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Speaker 1: Bill Polly did where Corney has been in. Yeah, except

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Speaker 1: he gave up a running back a spare part that

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to get him. If you got a

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Speaker 1: spare part that a one, and you got a spare

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Speaker 1: part that you want to include in a in a trade,

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Speaker 1: I mean t J Yelden in a one, gonna get

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Speaker 1: Steph Diggs. I don't think so we got we gotta

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Speaker 1: we got a defensive tackle right there. We got we

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Speaker 1: got so many defensive line mean that we could give

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Speaker 1: up one that guy. I don't know, Butch thanks, I

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Speaker 1: know you're giving a side. I know I told you

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Speaker 1: a couple of hours ago. They're sent him in out

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Speaker 1: there for a trade. You didn't believe me. I remember

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Speaker 1: that the four and one and they're dominating on that

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. I'll tell you what, There's the

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Speaker 1: last thing I do is trade any single solitary defensive

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Speaker 1: player on this roster. I ain't. I ain't doing it,

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Speaker 1: not on that side of the ball. I am not

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Speaker 1: trading any of those guys. They are all of them

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Speaker 1: are too valuable. Kevin Johnson is too value, you know,

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Speaker 1: Tarn Johnson and we haven't seen him in three weeks,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you just keep don't you even

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Speaker 1: mess with that. You're four and one by doing things

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Speaker 1: exactly the way they've been doing. Now. I get it.

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Speaker 1: And we've heard this as well all the way throughout

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Speaker 1: the offseason. Brandon Bean's on the phone. He knows, he

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Speaker 1: knows what it'll take. And if they haven't done the

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Speaker 1: deals because it's too much. So if they do make

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Speaker 1: a trade, it's gonna be for something we can live with.

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Speaker 1: So I'm fine with that. But I'm telling you what,

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Speaker 1: I this, make it happen at all costs. Mentality is out,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think we should be fearful or wringing

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Speaker 1: our hands if a trade does not happen because this

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Speaker 1: is a really, really good Now I'm not talking about

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Speaker 1: okay football, we're playing good. We're four and one two.

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Speaker 1: This is a good football team right in this minute.

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Speaker 1: They're good. So whether their offense scores eighteen points or

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Speaker 1: twelve points or twenty five points, they are a good

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Speaker 1: team who's really hard to beat. I ain't about trading

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Speaker 1: it busting it up in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: What do you think should the Bills make a trade

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Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks to get better on offense.

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Speaker 1: That's the topic of the day. We're just getting going

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Speaker 1: on at Chris Brown stand. Anybody to join us Bills

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Speaker 1: Insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com. Gonna be in studio

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Speaker 1: with us. We'll bring this up with him and much

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Speaker 1: more issues as well. You can many more issues as well.

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Speaker 1: You can phone in your comments for Chris. Also, come

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Speaker 1: Com joins us. Chris welcome. Did you have a goodbye weekend?

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Speaker 1: It was good. Yeah. Yeah, we had got a little

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Speaker 1: travel in, got a little college searching done, so we're

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Speaker 1: we're in good shape. Good to be back. It feels

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Speaker 1: good to be back, doesn't it? After that though? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was it, well, it was. It was a respite.

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Speaker 1: You know. It came a little early in week six.

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Speaker 1: You know, not that I'm complaining. You know, you get

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Speaker 1: some time off during the season. It's fine, but you know,

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Speaker 1: if it's if it's a little bit more towards the middle,

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Speaker 1: the back half regular season, plus we all kind of

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Speaker 1: feel that who's going to be more beyond well, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'll take a longer season. Give it

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Speaker 1: to me. I'm fine working in January. What's your philosophy

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Speaker 1: on college searches. I don't really have one. It's you

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Speaker 1: gotta do it, so you know, he's get it done.

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Speaker 1: I had five of them. Yeah, I don't envy you listen,

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Speaker 1: All you gotta do is just hope they find it.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if it's an ivy V school or it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's a state school or community college.

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Speaker 1: Just you hope they find their spot. Yeah. Then you

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Speaker 1: just miss them. They don't have to worry about I

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Speaker 1: think we Yeah, you get that call the next day,

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Speaker 1: the very drop them off literally twelve hours later. They're like,

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Speaker 1: I love this, this is awesome. Yeah, it's cool. Then

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Speaker 1: you can just miss them. I don't have to worry.

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Speaker 1: That's my parental advice. I'll take you. I'll tell anybody's

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Speaker 1: been through it five times and I've had him. I've

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Speaker 1: had him run the spectrum. They go all the way

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Speaker 1: from state school to you know, the Ivy League, and

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Speaker 1: that's all you want. Just find your spot because there's

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Speaker 1: none of it's free. It's just oh, I've already learned

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Speaker 1: that way. Get your checkbook read. Chris is with us

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Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes talking about today's topic and

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Speaker 1: whatever's on your mind. The phone line's open eight oh

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Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty two weeks from today, Chris, the

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Speaker 1: NFL trade deadline. Should the Bills make a trade to

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Speaker 1: improve offensively that's the question we're asking and our Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll we got five hundred and seventy votes in right now,

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Speaker 1: and almost half say yes they should, and they should

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Speaker 1: add a wide receiver, forty nine percent say add a

635
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver, twenty eight percent say yes, they should make

636
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: a trade to add an offensive lineman, and twenty four

637
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: percent say no, stay the course. So basically, you've got

638
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: almost eighty percent of perspond and say yes, make a

639
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: trade neither. And Steve didn't believe me this morning, but

640
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: I told him there was sentiment out there along those lines.

641
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't right now I'm saying stay the course. What

642
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: about you? I'd prefer to stay the course only because

643
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: I still don't think you know what this offense is

644
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: completely capable of. Yet. I still think they're finding their identity.

645
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: And we're only halfway through October here, and as you

646
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: close out this month, this is often the time where

647
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: units on one side of the ball or the other

648
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: really start to gain traction and operate in a fashion

649
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: where you say, Okay, this is what they are. And

650
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: I think we've gotten hints along the way through the

651
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: first five games, but I don't think the true identity

652
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: of what this offense is going to be into a

653
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: large degree weekend and week out. I don't think it's

654
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: been firmly established yet, but I think we could know

655
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: in the span of a couple of weeks. Yeah, and

656
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, are you going to say, well, that doesn't

657
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: work with the trade deadline, Well, maybe it doesn't, but

658
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: I still believe that you may find you you have

659
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: an even better offense than you anticipated because the thing

660
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: is finally yelling and humming, because you have to we

661
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: have to remember, we cannot forget the fact that ten

662
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: elevenths of this offense is new, or nine elevenths of it.

663
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we talking, Dion Dawkins and Josh

664
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: everything else is new. Let you can point to a

665
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: couple of reasons why they may be evolving it before

666
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: our eyes. Duke Williams comes on the roster contribute right away.

667
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary back in the lineup, and Tyler Croft getting on.

668
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean there's three examples of you don't know what

669
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: those guys are gonna do for you yet, but each

670
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: one of them represents a potential big contribution. Yeah, it's

671
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: problem solvers for the issues they've paid well, Yeah, and

672
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean Singletary's a heck of a piece to Yeah,

673
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: back to the to the offensive scheme. You know, Duke

674
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: fortunately had been here all off season, so it's not

675
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: like he's a brand new piece that walks in the

676
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 1: door and is trying to learn the offense on the fly.

677
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: He knows the offense, he knows what his role is,

678
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: so he can kind of make a smooth transition and

679
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: be an additional piece that can help you right away

680
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: in games. And so I'm I'm reluctant to kind of

681
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: add a piece. I mean, obviously, if you can make

682
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: your team better for a song, you're gonna do it.

683
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: But I just don't see those I don't see low

684
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: hanging fruit right now out there for a bargain basement price.

685
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: The argument to make a deal, and I've heard it,

686
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: We've all heard it, is, Hey, the landscape in the

687
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: AFC has changed. The Bills are in good shape, strike

688
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: while they're hot, add something now so they can maybe

689
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: cash in on their good starting what they can do

690
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: in the future, whether it's wide receiver or offensive line.

691
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: I get that. But Steve has pointed out and I agree,

692
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: that's a kind of thinking that sometimes forces you, causes

693
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: you not forceed you, causes you to reach a little

694
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: bit for a guy that may or may not help

695
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: you moving forward, Like, oh, we're in position now to

696
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: go deep in the playoffs, we better make a move.

697
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's sound thinking. Do you do?

698
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: You agree with me too? I made this segment this

699
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: point right in the last segment. At the end of it,

700
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: you start chasing these pieces like they're the one thing

701
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: that's going to transform you into this perennial and I

702
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: don't see that happening. You start chasing his eyes after peace.

703
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: The reason why is because Brandon Being's nature is to

704
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: not be a chaser. He doesn't chase things in the draft,

705
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: and he certainly doesn't chase things on the free agent market,

706
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: so I don't anticipate him chasing anything in the trade

707
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: market either, and he's certainly not going to get into

708
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: some kind of bidding war if there's multiple parties interested

709
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: in somebody that's on the trade block, for example. So

710
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: it's just not the way he operates. Being much like McDermott,

711
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: are methodical planners, thinkers, executors, and they let their information

712
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: help them make the decision, and they usually don't deviate

713
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: from that all that much. I'm sure there are exceptions.

714
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: They've only been here three years as a tandem, so

715
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: maybe we don't have enough of a body of evidence

716
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: to see if they would be willing to deviate from

717
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: the way their operation normally functions in terms of philosophy,

718
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: But I'd bet against it at this point and I

719
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: don't see it changing now. If you want to make

720
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: an argument for making a move striking while the iron's

721
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: hot kind of thing, you look at the rest of

722
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: their schedule this year and it is very favorable, and

723
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: so you say, well, why not add a piece and

724
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: make this your go for it year? Because you know,

725
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too deep in the weeds here,

726
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: but next year you gotta play the AFC West in

727
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: the NFC West, and I know it's a week to

728
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: week league, and I know things can change a lot

729
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: from one year to the next, but those are two

730
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: tough divisions that you're gonna be playing next year where

731
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: wins are going to be hard to come by. So

732
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: do you want to swing for the fences now? Make

733
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: a trade, add a piece that you really think can

734
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: put you over the top, and go for it this year,

735
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: knowing next year is going to be that much more difficult,

736
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: at least on paper, in terms of the schedule you're

737
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: gonna have in front of you in twenty twenty that's

738
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: the argument, but I don't like that argument. Dennis and Florida.

739
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: Hello Dennis, Welcome to the show. Gentlemen, nicest speak of you.

740
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call, and it's calling in about

741
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll and my position being a long time

742
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: Bills fan and I grew up in ken more so

743
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: but I do live in Florida now is to stay

744
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: the course. And there's a boatloads of reasons why I

745
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: think that that's the case. So let me just give

746
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: you my top three. I think that you've already discussed

747
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: one of these these these items, but you know what

748
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: you have to get up to get a player that's

749
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: may be perceived to make a big change. So I

750
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: think that that's a big issue. You know we're going

751
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: in the right direction. I think that you don't want

752
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: to kind of give away the farm here for an

753
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: unknown the second league. I don't think folks understand how

754
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: upsetting that could be to the chemistry of the team.

755
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: You know, anybody who's ever been in competitive situations understands

756
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: that your team members are the guys you count on,

757
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: and if you start moving one of them around to

758
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: get somebody else, and that puts the thought another player's

759
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: minds or could I be the next to go, you know,

760
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: things along those lines. So that's my second issue. And

761
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: the third I think Chris just mentioned about the fact

762
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: that I don't think the Bills have shown everything that

763
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: they have yet. They've got a lot of players they

764
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: have and utilized to the max yet such as Foster,

765
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: and I think that you don't they don't know what's

766
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: around the corner. So for those top three reasons, those anyway,

767
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: those are my top three reasons. I think that you know,

768
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: standing pet it is a way to go. I know

769
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: everybody wants more offense. We all want more offense. I

770
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: think that's good to develop throughout the year. I think

771
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: they've got the right chemistry and mindset, and so I

772
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: just wanted to throw that in the conversation. See what

773
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: you guys think and thanks, then it's good. Good thoughts,

774
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: go ahead, BRANDI what do you think everybody says you

775
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: need this wide receiver because the lack of the deep ball.

776
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: They haven't connected on a deep ball this year, and

777
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I agree, I mean, you don't see it too as

778
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: much as you did in the last half of last season.

779
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: What do you think the reasons for that are? I

780
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: think The reasons for that are twofold. One, you've got

781
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: two receivers who are really really good at working in

782
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: the short to intermediate areas and Cold Easley and John Brown.

783
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: Number Two, you have an offensive coordinator that sees that

784
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: as a more efficient way to move the football, which

785
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: they've done. And they've been successful in the red zone too.

786
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: They're a top ten team in the red zone offensively,

787
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: and so I think they also realize that that raises

788
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: the efficiency of Josh Allen's play. Playing a short to

789
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: intermediate passing game. I'm not convinced that that is their

790
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: identity on offense yet, but it has been to this point,

791
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: and so people are like, well, where's the deep ball?

792
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: Where's Robert Foster? How come he was making all these

793
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: deep ball plays last year? They didn't have anything else

794
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: to turn to on offense. They had to get yards

795
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: in giant chunks or they weren't going to get them

796
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: last year. So this year, your offensive line is much improved.

797
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: They can put a pocket together for Josh to operate

798
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: out of, and Josh is getting the ball out quicker

799
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: with short and intermediate throws. The focus this year has

800
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: shifted on offense. That's the simple, plain facts of the matter.

801
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: It is shifted from being a let's take a chance

802
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: and hope we get forty yards or a pass interference penalty. Too.

803
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: We can run the football with this offensive line, and

804
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: we have short to intermediate route runners who get separation

805
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: and get open. So let's go with the higher percentage

806
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: plays that are going to help us move the sticks

807
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: and stay on the field rather than chuck it downfield

808
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: and hope for the best. Because that's essentially what the

809
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: offense was for the last six weeks of the season.

810
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: And sometimes it worked and it was very entertaining, but

811
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: it's not a consistent way to win weekend and week out,

812
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: I think, in the opinion of a lot of people,

813
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: including this offensive set, one more call here here Rod

814
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: from Rochester, Hellbo, Rod, go ahead, you're on the air. Hey,

815
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: how you doing great? Heyd So I'm calling because I

816
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: believe that we should go in to train the trolley

817
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: for williams Um. I don't think that we I really

818
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: don't think that Josh Allen isn't the clinic quarterback. He's

819
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: out on Mahomes or not saying he's got a quarterback,

820
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: but he doesn't. He's not the greatest quarterback as far

821
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: as you know whatnot. So I think we should just

822
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: go in really solidify that offensive line by getting a

823
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: tr Williams. And that's maybe sliding nd dalkin his bike

824
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: over to the right so he and you know that

825
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: those other guys play well in the middle. Try Williams

826
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: is going to require a first rounder, I would think, right, yeah,

827
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: at least, I mean he's a top five pick. What

828
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: he's in the fifth pick in the draft. He's thirty one. Yeah,

829
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see that as an ad here.

830
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: I just don't. No question, ChRI Trn Williams could play.

831
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: He'd give you a good two or three years, no

832
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: question if you can get him. But that's a that's

833
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: a number one draft pick you're giving up, and A

834
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: and a certain Long not certain, but a pretty good

835
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: player in this next draft. Uh yeah, I get it.

836
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: And I see what you see. An offensive line means

837
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: so much. We all learned that the hard way last year.

838
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: You'd love to see him solidify that because last week

839
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: without a deep offensive line, they don't win in Tennessee.

840
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: Without Feliciano moving down to center, without Spencer Long coming

841
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: in off the bench, and Bates coming in to play

842
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: right tackle at the end of the game. They don't

843
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: close that game out with four twenty two to go.

844
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: Never give him tennessee the football back right. And that's

845
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line. And while I'll agree that Josh Allen

846
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: is not the same kind of quarterback as Pat Mahomes,

847
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is certainly capable of extending plays. I mean,

848
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: how many times have we seen it in the sixteen

849
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: stars he's made in his career. So do you put

850
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: a premium on the offensive line when you have a

851
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: quarterback who can extend plays with his own physical ability.

852
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you part with major assets to

853
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: acquire a left tackle who's going on thirty as talented

854
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: as he is, when you have a quarterback that can

855
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: kind of cover up some of those deficiencies when they

856
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: crop up by extending plays with his legs. And I'm

857
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: not just saying running, I'm just saying buy in time

858
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: before he throws the football. So you know, and again

859
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I'll go back to the shot to intermediate passing game.

860
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: You don't need all pro left tackles right tackles if

861
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: you've got a guy that's getting it out off three

862
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: step drops and throwing the football in two point seven seconds.

863
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: I if that's the way the offense is going to

864
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: be as well? Yeah, I mean yes, they've had some

865
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: good tackles over the years, but Brady gets the ball

866
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: out in two point three to two point five seconds.

867
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: And the premium to pay on pass protection, I don't

868
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: think it is high for them because of that. If

869
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: you can get Josh to that place, you're in good shape. Chris,

870
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: We've got other stuff we want to talk to you about.

871
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: Can you say one more segment? Please? Please? Please? I

872
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: can say well, Chris Brown, I know we asked him

873
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: on the air. He can't say no. We're back with more.

874
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Speaker 1: One Bill's Iide presented by Kalada Health Line from the

875
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. One Bill's Live.

876
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: John urfeas, Steve Tasker, Kyle Brand from NFL Network coming

877
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: up at the top of the next hour one o'clock,

878
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: and Mike Pereira. We're gonna dig into some officiating issues

879
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: with Mike Perera. At two. Chris Brown joins, us Bill

880
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: is gonna be so Fills dot Com. I don't want

881
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: to talk about that with you. I want to talk

882
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: Chris Offician. I want to talk about the Dolphins, who

883
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: I haven't dug into the video yet another source. The

884
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: numbers are awful for the Dolphins. The film isn't any better,

885
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: I can assure you just watching some today and it is.

886
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: It is really rough. And I think Bills fans are

887
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: going to watch this team on Sunday against the Bills

888
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: and they're going to see some startling similarities to the

889
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: problems that Buffalo's offensive line had last year. At this time,

890
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: their their offensive line is abysmal. And you know, the

891
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: final straw was, you know, trading Laramie Tunsel and shipping

892
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: him to Houston, you know, and making that trade. And yes,

893
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: they got a lineman back, but not nearly the caliber

894
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: of Tunsl who's probably going to be a Pro Bowl

895
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: caliber a lineman for Houston for a long time going forward.

896
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: But they just don't have answers at any of the

897
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: positions up front. And because of that, their offense is

898
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: perpetually stuck in neutral and sometimes is even in reverse.

899
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: They can't execute anything except those quick, you know now

900
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: routes to the receiver standing at the line of scrimmage

901
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: and then hoping that lineman and some other receiver can

902
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: get out and block in front of them and they

903
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: can gain three or four yards. Because it is really bad,

904
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: they cannot establish a pocket at all. I think their

905
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: left guard, Deeter is probably the worst of the bunch.

906
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Jonathan Allen was eating his lunch, his dinner,

907
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: and his midnight snack on Sunday. It was bad do them.

908
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: If it's Josh Rosen or Ryan Fitzpatrick, well, I think

909
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: you know that fitz will get it out and can

910
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: overcome some of those deficiencies at times. I just don't

911
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: think Josh Rosen is at a point in his career,

912
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, for a myriad of reasons to execute in

913
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: a circumstance like this, He's just not equipped to do it.

914
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that any quarterback with less than a

915
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: year of starts in the league is equipped to make

916
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: this mess work or at least seem functional. I think

917
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: if you put a veteran quarterback in they can probably

918
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: cover up a couple of things, make some plays here

919
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: and there. But for a rookie to ask a guy

920
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: who's essentially a rookie quarterback to handle this mess, I

921
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: just think it's too much to ask and I'm not

922
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: trying to be an apologist for Josh Rosen because he

923
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: has some deficiencies too. I saw some numbers by a

924
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: good writer down there, Barry Jackson, who was showing some

925
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: of the numbers of Josh Rosen's even in a clean pocket,

926
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: and it's not good. His passer ratings down around sixty

927
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: even operating out of a clean pocket. That's mostly on Josh.

928
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: You can say he's in a new scheme, he got

929
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: traded there, you can say he's not working with much.

930
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: But even when the circumstances or the situation is good,

931
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: he's not performing right now. Compare this year's Dolphins offense

932
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: the Bills last year. It might be worse. I think

933
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: it might be worse. You know, the quarterback situation you

934
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: can slice, but I think it's I think it's an

935
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: offensive line issue that is the root of the problem here.

936
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: I would argue they have two players who are truly

937
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: NFL caliber offensive lineman in the starting unit. As bean

938
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: as their offense is, their defense is just as big

939
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: a problem right dead lasted virtually. I think they're asking

940
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: to carry what the offense can't and we saw some

941
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: of that here last year. And yes, credit the Bills

942
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: defense for being number two in the league last year,

943
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: despite the fact that they were on the field sometimes

944
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty eight, almost forty minutes a game and

945
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: they were still holding this team in sometimes. But you know,

946
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: there's only so much you can do on the defensive

947
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: side of the ball. And again, here's an example where

948
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: they traded away an important piece. Makea Fitzpatrick gets traded away,

949
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: and you know, forget about what that does for psyche

950
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: and morale. You've taken a valuable player out of the

951
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: starting eleven and said, go make it work, guys, you know,

952
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: have fun. Yes, they had a nice pickup off Waivers

953
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: in you know, Taco Charlton from Dallas who was a

954
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: cast off there for reasons I'm still not certain about.

955
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: And I think that's a player that they can build

956
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: around going forward. I'm not saying he's a Pro Bowl

957
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: ybody's a capable NFL starter. So you know, they're trying

958
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: to build it from the ground up. I think, you know,

959
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: all of this talk with Flores this week about I'm

960
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: committed to Josh Rosen for the rest of the year,

961
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: so we know what we have. And then in the

962
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: next breath, he's saying, well, I don't want to close

963
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 1: the door on maybe going to Fits if I need to,

964
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: you know, So he said, I think Josh is going

965
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: to start, but you know, we may bring Fits in.

966
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna resign myself to one guy if I

967
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: think that we need to change a pace. So he's

968
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: left the door completely open. I wonder if it's more

969
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: strategic or if it's more to avoid the tank narrative.

970
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: You know, well, if we're still playing this vetter and

971
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: you can't tell me we're tanking, you know that kind

972
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: of thing. So I wonder where he is. But people

973
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: are already starting to doubt the capability of Flores and

974
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: the GM Greer to pull them out of this abyss

975
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: that they are in. Now they are stocked and locked

976
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: and loaded with a bevy of draft picks, and next

977
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: spring the rubber is going to meet the road. Let's

978
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: see the rebuilding effort happen. Let's see what you can

979
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: land in the draft and make it work. And they've

980
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: got a whole other SLUI picks for the following year.

981
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: But if this really goes bad, bad like colossally historic

982
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: NFL bad, I don't know if they're gonna be around

983
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: like going sixteen bad. Well, yeah, because that's a possibility here. Yeah,

984
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: well yeah, still on the table. Remember my joke about

985
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: with Armando, they go in sixteen, they have to celebrate

986
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: that too, just like this unbeaten Dolphins, right, they have

987
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: to Who do they call on them to do that?

988
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: The Lions? They call the Lions to Here's the thing, Hey,

989
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: we got company. Like Dolphins are awful, and yet they're

990
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna be desperate too. And you heard some of that

991
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: desperation in Miami's locker room Sunday, and they'll bring that

992
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: to this game on Sunday. The Bills have to be

993
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: on point. I think, yeah, I think as soon as

994
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: you know how this operates with teams that struggle in

995
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 1: this fashion, we've seen Bills teams bad Bills, teams that

996
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: don't have the mental toughness to overcome the first bad

997
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: thing that happens in a football game when they're losing,

998
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: like this, Murph. We've seen Bills teams like this. I have,

999
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, the lack of mental toughness, the lack of

1000
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: ability to overcome something bad that's handed to you in

1001
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: a football game. And I think that's where the Dolphins

1002
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: are right now, they're sick of the losing. But is

1003
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: it enough to compel them and propel them to give

1004
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: their level best for sixty minutes. I don't know if

1005
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: it is. And I think that if the Bills jump

1006
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: on this team early, it's gonna be over early too.

1007
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: What's up on the website? What do you got going on?

1008
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills? So there's a nice write up by Trent Murphy.

1009
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: We have this series called My View where the players

1010
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: kind of speak in their own words as a first

1011
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: person account from Trent, and I wanted him, you know,

1012
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: I kind of told him I think a good thing

1013
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: for him to address would be team toughness, his ideals

1014
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: as it pertains to toughness, both physical and mental, having

1015
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: gone through a lengthy and arduous rehab on his knee,

1016
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, a little over a year ago, sitting at

1017
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: the elbow of Kyle Williams in the meeting rooms all

1018
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: last year, where he got to see firsthand what Kyle

1019
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: Williams thought toughness was. But I don't think enough of

1020
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: the fan base understands the tough background the Trent comes from,

1021
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, blue collar working on a ranch, his dad,

1022
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, tough as nails. You're expecting him to have,

1023
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, a toothpick in his mouth, you know, a

1024
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: cat hat on his head, you know, caterpillar hat on

1025
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: his head, you know what I mean. Like that kind

1026
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: of guy. And you know, he's got some interesting stories

1027
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: that he relates, you know, in what he feels built

1028
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: his toughness. But philosophically, he also believes that you can

1029
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: teach toughness and make it better. So it's really interesting

1030
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: kind of the the avenues he kind of pursues through this.

1031
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: My view piece on toughness, it was really good. I

1032
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: liked what he put together, this stuff that Stanford education

1033
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: helped him. You know. Yeah, absolutely, that's up on Buffalo

1034
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Speaker 1: bills dot com right now, Chris Brown, thank you. We'll

1035
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: talk again tomorrow. Practice right, you'll be on the I'll

1036
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Speaker 1: be out for you. Yes, absolutely, all right, Chris Brown

1037
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: Bills inside of Buffalo bills dot Com. When we come back,

1038
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Brandt from NFL Network joins us. It's one Bills

1039
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,000
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1041
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: Sports Update from One Bill's Drive Bills players off today.

1042
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: They're back tomorrow to resume the practice week, getting set

1043
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: for the windlass. Miami Dolphins running back Devin Singletary the Motor,

1044
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: may be ready to return. He's missed three games and

1045
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: had the bybeweek to recover from the hamstring strain he

1046
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: suffered against the Giants. Bill's offense, looking to be more productive,

1047
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: may have a chance to do it this Sunday. Miami

1048
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: dead blast in the NFL defensively in yards and points allout.

1049
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: They give up thirty six points per game. The Bills

1050
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: give up just fourteen points per game. Dolphins quarterback position

1051
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: bit of a question mark. Coach Brian Flora just said

1052
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: last week that Josh Rosen will be their starter for

1053
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: the balance of twenty nineteen. He played poorly against Washington

1054
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: and yesterday, Flora says, we'll see what happens this week

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Speaker 1: in practice. They don't need more evaluation time on their guy.

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00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton's foot injury has healed well.

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00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: He is expected to be ready to practice after their

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00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: by this week. Kyle Allen, an undrafted free agent, has

1059
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: gone four and oh as a starting quarterback in his absence.

1060
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: Panthers have parted ways with former Bills draft pick where

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00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLeod, their return specialists, had troubles against Tampa

1062
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: Bay in London, three muff punts and two games against

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00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers overall. He was released today. McLeod the Bills

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00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: sixth round pick in twenty eighteen, not looking for a

1065
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: third spot in the NFL. The XFL holding its draft

1066
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: and its quarterback assignment today. Former UB quarterback Tyree Jackson,

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00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: who spent the off season with the Bills, drafted in

1068
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: the ninth round in the XFL draft by the DC Defenders. Earlier,

1069
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: DC was a signed quarterback Cardal Jones, Buffalo's fourth round

1070
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: pick in twenty sixteen, who spent a couple of years

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00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: with the Los Angeles Chargers. Savers beat Dallas for to

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00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: nothing yesterday on home ice, Carter hunting with twenty five saves,

1073
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: its first shoutout of the year. Now they're off for

1074
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: a Western road trip. The Savers now in California, three

1075
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: game trip that starts tomorrow night against Anaheim and baseball playoffs. Tonight,

1076
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: a couple of games in the American League Division Series.

1077
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: At his game three of the Astros and Yankees four

1078
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: oh eight. That game starts today at Yankee Stadium. Series

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00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: tied one win apiece in the National League Championship Series.

1080
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: Cardinals in Washington play tonight in Washington eight oh five,

1081
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: and the Nats might wrap it up. They leave the

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00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: series three games none. And that, my friends, is the

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00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in

1084
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: our studio here in out your Park, joined on the

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00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: line by our one o'clock on Tuesday date. We're with

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00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: our guy Kyle Brandt from the NFL Network, the go

1087
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: host of Good Morning Football. Good afternoon, Kyle brand Good

1088
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: to be with you here today. Good afternoon, Murph and Steve,

1089
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: and I have to start with an apology to all

1090
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: of your listeners. You might not believe that, but I do.

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00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Last week, I have to say, since I've been meeting

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00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: with you guys every week, listeners, very supportive, very encouraging,

1093
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: very friendly, and yet last week I came out and

1094
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: told you that, looking at the Bills schedule, this could

1095
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: be a ten win team. I thought I was being

1096
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: positive and constructive of paying a compliment. I was attacked

1097
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: after the appearance for an insult of a ten win team.

1098
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: But a ten win team is the basement. And in fact,

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00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: I slighted the entire Bills fan base by saying a

1100
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: ten win team. And you know what, guys, I think

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00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: that they're right. I think ten is the basement. I

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00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: should have said twelve. Do I hear thirteen? But I

1103
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: will apologize to start the converence. Well, preseason, before they

1104
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: kicked off, I said they were gonna win ten games.

1105
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,479
Speaker 1: My partner over here see tasker says eleven plus. First

1106
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: of all, that is an invalid response when you ask

1107
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: somebody to pick how many wins? Right? Is a number?

1108
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: Is a number with a plus sign on it? Not?

1109
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: Not valid? No, well, would you ever do a minus

1110
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: signs team number? Yeah, well, the eleven plus would be

1111
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: like maybe playoff game win or maybe even a home

1112
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: playoff game kind of thing. Right, Well, let they go

1113
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: fifteen and one. Technically you're right because fifteen is eleven plus. Right,

1114
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: I claim everything above eleven. So here, the Bill is

1115
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: coming off the buy Kyle with their four and one record,

1116
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good and especially good about what they see

1117
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: around them in the AFC. So your thoughts about maybe

1118
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: more than ten wins, it look like you might we

1119
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: all might be onto something here where the way the

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00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: season is playing out, not just in Buffalo but around

1121
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: the AFC. Huh maybe. And it's kind of nice right

1122
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: now because there's a lot of handwringing, a lot of

1123
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: debating about who are the great teams in the AFC

1124
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: after New England? And I feel like it's kind of

1125
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: cool that the Bills took a buy now because at

1126
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: least on our show in the morning, we haven't talked

1127
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: about them in a week and we're trying to figure

1128
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: out do the Texans have it to take out the Patriots?

1129
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Are the Chief's good all right? Can we trust the Ravens?

1130
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 1: And there's very little conversation about Buffalo. I found it interesting.

1131
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: I looked this up. Let me ask Steve mister eleven plus.

1132
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: The last time I think that the went four and

1133
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: one and then had a bye was the nineteen ninety season.

1134
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: You guys went four and one and then went into

1135
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: the bye. Do you remember that at all? And when

1136
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: you have that buy after starting four and one, do

1137
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: you start to think we rule the world or we

1138
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: got to stay hungry? Like I'm trying to get into

1139
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: the mindset of this Bill's team because they're sitting pretty right.

1140
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: It's well, it's so old school. You go back to

1141
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety and I don't remember that, but I know this.

1142
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: Back then, the question was always, wow, is this a

1143
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: good time for the bye week? This because it too early?

1144
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: Is it too late? And the question as always now

1145
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: it's everybody knows the answer. It's always a good time

1146
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: for the bye week because somebody needs to get healthy,

1147
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: somebody needs a rest. But for the Bills, we've been

1148
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: talking about this all week, Kyle. It's been eleven weeks

1149
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: since the start of the training camp to this point,

1150
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: and now they've got eleven weeks left to close out

1151
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: the season, the regular season, and it seems like it's

1152
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: the perfect time. They've had little rash of injuries. But

1153
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember being four and one, and you know,

1154
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: getting a bye week that early in my career. At

1155
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety is the first Super Bowl year for the team.

1156
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: But it's interesting the correlation because this, this is really

1157
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: a schedule just like Wow, it's hard to picture the

1158
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: Bills being an underdog, an underdog in the need the games. Well,

1159
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: you think about it now, it feels like they're still

1160
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: on and buy they got the Dolphins. I mean the Dolphins.

1161
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: The Dolphins plan is very clear. The Dolphins are not

1162
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: in it to win games. It's just it's it feels

1163
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: that way. I would say the Bills fans enjoy the

1164
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: Dolphins now because I do think they're going to be

1165
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: good in a couple of years. Say what you want

1166
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: about tanking. It works, you collect a whole bunch of

1167
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: draft picks, it typically works. I think the Dolphins will

1168
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: be good, but god, they are terrible now. They just

1169
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: lost to that Redskins team. So think about this now

1170
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: four and one. I think they'll beat Miami. They're going

1171
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, the guys. Unless sort of some sort

1172
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: of terrible mountdown or a bad rash of injuries, the

1173
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: Bills are going to be in the playoffs. Who's the

1174
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: team they're gonna get? Is that playoff team gonna be

1175
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: at home? I think what's really interesting and a little

1176
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: scary right now in the AFC specifically, it's not just

1177
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson's playing well. It's not that the Texans

1178
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: seem to be good. Deshaun Watson has not been sacked

1179
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: in two straight games. I remember the only problem with

1180
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: him was he gets hit too much the old time

1181
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: of the ball. And if you go back a little further,

1182
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: as you guys know, thinking about the Dolphins, the Houston

1183
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: Texans made this trade for the tackle Laramie Tunsil, and

1184
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: everybody said they were crazy, and Twitter said they were

1185
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: idiots and they paid too much. Well, the offensive line

1186
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: right now was playing lights out and Deshaun Watson just

1187
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: outplayed Mahomes and his stadium. So if you ask me

1188
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: about the AFC, who's dangerous right now? It is a

1189
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: clean jersey Deshaun Watson, who looks really, really good. And

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00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: that's the team Buffalo could run into at the end

1191
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: of the year. On the line with Kyle Brandt, NFL Network,

1192
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: Coast of Good Morning Football, one more Bills. The issue

1193
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: we want to deal with you here, Kyle, and that

1194
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: it's a Twitter poll today. We're two weeks away today

1195
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: from the NFL trade deadline, and there are segments and

1196
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: actually a lot of Bills fans think they should make

1197
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: a move before the deadline. Should the Bills make a

1198
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: trade to improve offensively? On the Twitter poll right now,

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Speaker 1: in ordered votes in over the last hour or so,

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00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: half of our respondent say yes. At a wide receiver

1201
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven percent say yes at an offensive lineman twenty

1202
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: four say no. Stay the course. Steve and I are

1203
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: on the state the course course at least for a

1204
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks until we get to the trade deadline.

1205
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: What do you think about that question? Well, it's always

1206
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: easier to say we gotta do something. We gotta get

1207
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: the shiny object, we gotta get the cool weapon. The

1208
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: defense looks great, obviously, and look, it doesn't surprise me

1209
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: that your listeners say we need some firepower. There is

1210
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: one name out there that I think is interesting, and

1211
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: it's the running back for the Chargers, Melvin Gordon. Now

1212
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: I know that Devin's singletary looks good and Frank Ore

1213
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: is venerable, but Melvin Gordon, with his whole experience of

1214
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: holding out and not really having a home with the Chargers,

1215
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: if he were to be available to come in and

1216
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: be this game breaker, this workhorse, I feel like that

1217
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: could really help the Bill's offense contractually down the road

1218
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: it gets dicey. I don't know if you could have

1219
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: him for the rest of the year and they get

1220
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: rid of him. But as I was, as you were

1221
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: asking me the question, rule out Jalen Ramsey. The Bills

1222
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: don't need him, and I don't think the Jags are

1223
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: trading them. But if some of the sex of your names,

1224
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: it'd be pretty cool to get in a fresh new

1225
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: running back to go with that offense. Melvin Gordon, I

1226
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind. Yeah, that's an interesting take because a lot

1227
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: of people are wrapped up in this wide receiver thing,

1228
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: because this is a team last year, in the last

1229
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: half of the season, in a year that they struggle offensively,

1230
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: the long ball was the only tool in the toolbox

1231
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: they had and it was a lot of fun to watch.

1232
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: And now that seems to have disappeared. You got Josh

1233
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: Allen going from fifty three percent completion rate last year

1234
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: over seventy percent this last week against Tennessee. It's a

1235
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: different offense, and I don't know that there's a need

1236
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: to transform it at all, given the fact that they're

1237
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: trying to play complimentary football with a defense that's dominating. Yeah,

1238
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the risk of as you

1239
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: start transforming it and had a new weapons and then

1240
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: let's say you do go get make a trade for

1241
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: somebody and you tell Josh Allen we gotta make this

1242
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: work and he starts forcing it to him. The last

1243
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: thing that that Josh Allen needs to start forcing more passes.

1244
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: The defense is so good you just want to keep

1245
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. And typically you might say, well,

1246
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: don't rest on your Laurels, let's get better. The Laurels

1247
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: are pretty good right now. I still think that they're

1248
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: the second best team in the AFC at four and one.

1249
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. Don't do anything rash. Typically

1250
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: at this point in the bill season we're like, oh man,

1251
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: we gotta get impulsive life here or something. It's really

1252
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: good right now. You know, we're having Coach McDermott is

1253
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: coming on Good Morning Football tomorrow, so maybe I will

1254
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: have to ask him personally, And if any of your

1255
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: listeners have any other questions they want to ask, I'm

1256
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: happy to take him. What do you think they need

1257
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: to do offensive? What's Josh Allen need to do to

1258
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: play better? You had seventy percent completion percentage last week.

1259
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: Seems to be gaining. You know, he did through one

1260
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: interception of a completely different nature than the old time

1261
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: stupid over the top throw. This one was a throw

1262
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: we tried to fit in. Seemed to take a real

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Speaker 1: step forward next week, but as we've seen, he may

1264
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: take a step backwards as well this coming week. You know,

1265
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the action all around the league this

1266
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: past weekend, and it's just there's the quarterbacks who mess

1267
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: up and the ones who play clean. You know, Jameis

1268
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: Winston through five interceptions in a game, that's Jameis Winston's game.

1269
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: I think if he plays another year or twenty more years,

1270
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Speaker 1: I think that's the kind of quarterback he is. Aaron Rodgers,

1271
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: as good as he is, he just doesn't make mistakes.

1272
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't make the big mistakes. Josh down is still

1273
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: figuring that out. I don't know if he's one of

1274
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: these messy quarterbacks. I mean, look at bicker Mayfield's doing

1275
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: right now. Was leading the league of interceptions. It's not

1276
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,479
Speaker 1: even close. This was a guy in college we thought

1277
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: had the total control of accuracy. I think he's got

1278
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: eleven picks this year and the Browns are falling apart.

1279
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: So that's the thing with Josh youwn. I love every

1280
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: we talked about this every week, guys. I love the leadership,

1281
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: I love the athleticism. He just makes that one head

1282
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: shaking pick a game, and sometimes it's two or three.

1283
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: So he's at this point where I feel like he's

1284
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: in his adolescence as a quarterback, second year, bunch of

1285
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 1: starts under his belt. Are you gonna be the mess

1286
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: up guy? Are you gonna be able to play clean?

1287
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: And I think he's got to figure that out the

1288
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: next couple of months. That's really it. I don't mind

1289
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: the weapons. I like what they did. I like Brown,

1290
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: I like Beasley, I like the line. I just wish

1291
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: there could be a couple more clean games because when

1292
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: you get against New England, we saw it. You make

1293
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: a couple of mistakes. That thing's over with col Brandon

1294
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: and the NFL. Never Let's move around the league a

1295
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: little bit. Calin you were talking about AFC contenders a

1296
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: moment ago, and I don't think you mentioned Kansas City.

1297
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: They've lost a couple in a row at home, but

1298
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: they're still to be heard from this year, right, you're

1299
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: not writing them off at all. I wouldn't think. No,

1300
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: they're still gonna play a role in this thing. It's

1301
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: just strange. You know, you lose two at home and listen,

1302
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: it's not talking. He's getting talked about much because Mahomes

1303
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: is not hyping it. Mahomes is not right, his ankle

1304
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: is not right. He doesn't run around very well. Some

1305
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: of his best plays are improvisational. That's not there. But guys,

1306
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: let's not pretend this is nothing I said for weeks.

1307
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: Once Tyree Hill gets back, it'll be all better. He

1308
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: changes the whole offense. Tyreek Hill was back and he

1309
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: was great, and they still lost at home to a

1310
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: Houston team that probably shouldn't be beating them, an arrowhead.

1311
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: So it's almost this feeling with Mahomes now kind of

1312
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: a lot like there is with Sean McVay and his

1313
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: rams in the NFC, which is, guys, there's blood in

1314
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: the water. They've been taken over the league for a

1315
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: year and a half. Now all of a sudden, they're

1316
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: playing a lot of man defense on them that they're

1317
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: not beating. The Chiefs don't run the ball well. So

1318
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: we love Pat Mahomes and we could play as highlights

1319
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: all day. They're not scoring thirty to forty points every

1320
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: single week. The defense isn't great, so it's like, I

1321
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: think they will be there in the end because they're

1322
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: that talented. But this is now a factor of and

1323
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: again I'll bring it back to Buffalo. That could be

1324
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: one of those teams that they run into in the playoffs,

1325
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: that Chiefs, and you don't want to go to Arrowhead

1326
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: if you If the Chiefs finish up ten and six

1327
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: and they have to come to Buffalo, it's a lot

1328
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: better matchup. Yeah. One thing I asked you as well

1329
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: in that game of Kansas City when the Houston went

1330
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: into Kansas City and beat them, when are we gonna be?

1331
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: And maybe you're not, but when are the rest of

1332
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: us going to be? You know, not be surprised by

1333
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. I mean the guy all of a sudden

1334
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: he's in the MVP conversation and he looks great. He's fantastic.

1335
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: You know, I think it is Steve Is. It's not

1336
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: even so much Deshaun Watson. We've all bought it to

1337
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: him since Clemson. There's just something about Houston. There's there's

1338
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: a handful of teams over the last decade that they

1339
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: are really hard to trust because they give you the

1340
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: fullest goal and they look great and they rattle off

1341
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of wins and then they let you down

1342
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: the second. You know, if you're me, you go on

1343
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: TV and said they can't lose, and then they lose

1344
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: by three touchdowns. You know, this Deshaun Watson team, they

1345
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: lost to Kyle Allen of the Panthers, the guy who

1346
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: had had zero experience and came in and beat them.

1347
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: So I think I love DeShawn as an athlete, as

1348
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback, but you know, at the same time, back

1349
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year, he looked terrible in that

1350
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: playoff loss, big stage. Shaun Watson, who was up and

1351
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: down the fielding its Alabama and made the country fall

1352
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: in love with him, look terrible. So this has been

1353
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: some great, great football from him and some clean football,

1354
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: But he's one of the teams that I can't trust yet.

1355
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: They've let me down too many times. You guys, know,

1356
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: you go on the radio and throw them with people.

1357
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than you say this team is going

1358
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: to be great and then the guy throws score in

1359
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: receptions and loses. I've got that happen. I've gotten Houston

1360
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: before Houston, we do have a problem. Then it's often

1361
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: me vouching for you. Yeah, I want to ask you

1362
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: about another AFC team, And I've been thinking a little

1363
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: bit this week about Greg Roman down there in Baltimore

1364
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: and what he has done with Jackson, his quarterback, one

1365
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: hundred fifty two yards on the ground in a year

1366
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 1: in which they were supposed to I think many people

1367
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: thought turn him into a passer, and yet Greg Roman

1368
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: smart enough and he spent a little time here smart

1369
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: enough to know that that's a weapon that he can

1370
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: use as a runner too. I think that's a pretty

1371
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: interesting development down there in Baltimore. Well, it's awesome to watch.

1372
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's what he's doing. It feels like the

1373
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,959
Speaker 1: sport is changing right in front of us. We've we've

1374
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: never seen numbers like this, not consistently. And yet I

1375
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 1: don't know, guys, listen, I don't know if it's because

1376
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm getting older or it's because I'm a father of two.

1377
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: It just makes me very nervous. You know, I'm teaching

1378
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: my kid to ride his bike right now. We took

1379
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: the training wheels off. He falls all the time, and

1380
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: he tries to get up and be tough. But every

1381
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: time he falls, I hold my breath. And every time

1382
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson runs across the middle, I hold my breath

1383
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: because we always get our breath taken away by these

1384
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: running quarterbacks and these great athletes, and then next thing

1385
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, the trainers are coming out and they're out

1386
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: for two to three weeks. When I look at Lamar Jackson,

1387
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: I say, Okay, how's Cam Newton playing this year? His

1388
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 1: foot's injured. Do you remember Michael Vick breaking his leg

1389
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: in the preseason in the preseason game against Baltimore. I

1390
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: love that he runs. He should run. It would be

1391
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: a crime to have Lamar Jackson not run. I just

1392
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: hope they got a plan because having him run it

1393
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: two hundred times and get to the playoffs, it feels

1394
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: like it's not the question of if, but a matter

1395
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: of when he's gonna go down. And I hope they

1396
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: have a different plan for it because we've seen it

1397
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: too many times. He's running. Quarterbacks get hurt. Yeah, and

1398
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: how long can that last? I mean Cam Newton, Now

1399
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: you say he's been in and out of the lineup

1400
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: with injury. Last year, he was ineffective because of an injury.

1401
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: Sooner or later. A quarterback, a long term quarterback, is

1402
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: going to be six years and he's gonna be done

1403
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: if they start running these guys like that, And then

1404
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: you've got to look at the other side of the coin.

1405
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: You got guys like Philip Rivers and Eli Manning, those

1406
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: guys that never run, and they can play for almost

1407
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: two decades Tom Brady as well. How do you you

1408
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: know where's the balance there that the league is gonna strike? Now?

1409
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: It's tricky, Stude, because he Lamar's incredible passer. He looks

1410
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: really good and so what can you really sit there

1411
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: as an offensive coach or as a Ravens fan in

1412
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: the stands and'd be like, no, no, no, Lamar, don't run.

1413
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: It's too dangerous because he's about to rip off a

1414
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: thirty eight yard run on third and twelve. So of

1415
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: course he's got to do it. And I remember when

1416
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: we had this debate with Michael Vick. He's got to

1417
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: stay in the pocket. He shouldn't run, he shouldn't run.

1418
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: I remember John Mandels on Money in a Football and said,

1419
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: what do you mean he shouldn't run. He's Michael Vick.

1420
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: Of course he should run. But we saw how it ended.

1421
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: So if Lamar is gonna be the guy for the

1422
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,479
Speaker 1: next three or four years, sure, run the wheels off.

1423
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: But if we're gonna be talking nine to ten years

1424
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: from now in the FC North, that Lamar Jackson is

1425
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: still the quarterback. I mean, I think, guys, I think

1426
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: Cam Newton has done in Carolina, and I mean that

1427
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: it sounds profound. He couldn't win. He keeps getting hurt.

1428
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: Now he's got a foot injury, and sure enough, you

1429
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: get what every team wants, an unknown, cheap, cheap quarterback

1430
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: who comes in and can't miss. That happens. If Cam

1431
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: Newton was a pocket guy who didn't run as much,

1432
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he would be hurt. I don't think

1433
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: we even know who Kyle Allen is. So it's the

1434
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: law term danger that you worry about. How the Tennessee

1435
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: Titans have a quarterback decision to make may come as

1436
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: soon as today or tomorrow. And I don't know what

1437
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: the right answer is for Mike Vybel Down there, we

1438
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: get firsthand knowledge of what the issues Marcus Mariota has,

1439
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: but I don't know what they should do down there

1440
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. To you, no, but there's I mean, listen,

1441
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: remember the last election, okay, and there were two candidates,

1442
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people who didn't like either candidate.

1443
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: They didn't like the man or they didn't like the woman,

1444
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: and they would develop the slogan that just that, just

1445
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: give me the asteroid, Let the asteroid hit the planet,

1446
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: or I don't want to vote for either of these people.

1447
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 1: It's the nuclear option. When you say, listen, we just

1448
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: benched our franchise quarterback for Ryan Tannehill, who, God love them,

1449
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: is not the next Patrick Mahomes. If I'm a Tennessee

1450
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: Titans fan right now and Mike Rabel say Tannehill or Mariota,

1451
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, start the asteroids. I like that. Yeah, well,

1452
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one last thing before we hit, before

1453
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: the asteroid hits. Maybe we should Maybe we should also

1454
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: do that. With the officiating controversies around the NFL. I

1455
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: mean it's been and I said this earlier in the show.

1456
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: Is there some sort of season during the football, a

1457
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: sub season where every year we have to have a

1458
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: conversation about how we're gonna fix the officiating. What's gonna happen.

1459
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: Let's get a sky jo. Let's you said, what what's

1460
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: gonna happen? It's funny. I always refer to it as

1461
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: referee radio. Right, It's just you start talking officiating and

1462
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: it's tedious as hell, and you don't love it. And

1463
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 1: yet people get really emotional about it. And the second

1464
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: you guys would throw out to your callers call with

1465
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 1: your officiating takes, the phone lines are let up. They

1466
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: love it. There seems to be something different right our

1467
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: whole lives we've watched football. There's always a complaint about

1468
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: the referees the day after the game it happened. It

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01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: seems to be going different now, and I mean that

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01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: there seems to be more. It seems to be getting bigger.

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01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: And I don't think just because everyone's got a Twitter

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Speaker 1: account or something. I was watching this Jets Cowboys game

1473
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: this last week. There was one point where six straight

1474
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: plays were flagged, six straight, so much so that they

1475
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: usually erdked in proper. Jim Nance said, can we get

1476
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: one play without a penalty call? Please? And he says

1477
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: this on CBS, and he was right, So listen. I

1478
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: think what they're doing is they're over efficiating the hell

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01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: out of it, and they don't want to be the

1480
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: crew or the guy who didn't make the call, because

1481
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: there's this idea that what we can review things now

1482
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: and maybe there's a safety net. And yet I'm watching

1483
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions get called for two non penalties from

1484
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: the same player in the same violation. You can't review

1485
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: that stuff. So here's the question that I would pose.

1486
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has said for years, just screw it. Make

1487
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: every single thing reviewable, holding offsides, hands to the face,

1488
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: everything is challengeable, everything is reviewable. To me as a fan,

1489
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: that sounds tedious as hell. But this morning, if I'm

1490
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: a Lions fan, and illegal hands to the face is reviewable.

1491
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: We beat the Packers last night, So maybe Belichick is

1492
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: smarter than the rest of us, like we thought. Yeah,

1493
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: but it also comes down to this. I know that, uh,

1494
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: and I've got some you know, some vested interest in

1495
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: the CFL where that is the case. And what happens

1496
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: is the the the head coaches use it as a

1497
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: weapon and they'll wait till deep into the third period

1498
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: where they give up, either give up or get a

1499
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: big play, and the other team will automatically challenge it

1500
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: and say, hey, away from the football over here on

1501
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: the left, we've got eyes on the field, and they

1502
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: say there was a penalty, and and they bring it

1503
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: back and they challenge it, and that's and we lost

1504
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: Kyle for just a second. He's going to come back.

1505
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: But that's what happens, Murph. Yeah's you just hold it

1506
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: and use it as a weapon and to get out

1507
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 1: of a big play that you've given up defensively, and

1508
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: you challenge it and over here, Yeah, the wide receiver

1509
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,799
Speaker 1: pushed off or there was offensive holding on the left tackle.

1510
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,879
Speaker 1: And as long as the the coaching staff who challenges

1511
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: it has eyes on, they got an angle of it. Yeah, Okay,

1512
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: the big play comes off the board, you go back,

1513
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: You take all these great plays away, and it becomes

1514
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: a weapon for the team that still has a challenge.

1515
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: And you see some of that kind of creeping in

1516
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: now with the NFL. How Look, coaches will will play

1517
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: every card they have to try to get an advantage,

1518
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: and they use the officiating and now replay officiating when

1519
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: it comes to pass interference, they use that as a

1520
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's a competitive thing. How can we best

1521
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: use this. It's not good. It's not good, and it's

1522
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: not even a for me. It's not even a chance

1523
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: to uh or it's not even the fact that it

1524
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: extends games it does. That doesn't bother me as much

1525
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: as I just eliminates the human aspect of the game. Kyle,

1526
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: coming back or not, we don't know yet trying to

1527
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: get Kyle. All right, So we're gonna say goodbye to

1528
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Brandt for joining us. And he should know, and

1529
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: you should know. We got referee radio coming up on

1530
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: our show. Our fere is going to join us from

1531
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: the NFL on Fox. I like Mike's one of the officials.

1532
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: I really like. There's a bunch of them out there,

1533
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 1: Dean Blandino, Mike Pereira, Mike Carry, There's a ton of

1534
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: guys out there that really have some great insights. It'll

1535
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: be fun to talk to Mike. We got We thank

1536
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: Kyle brand for joining us. Sorry, we lost the touch

1537
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: of them down the stretch there. Kyle from the NFL

1538
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: Network and the host of Good Morning Football. And by

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01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: the way, I was gonna ask him the time, but

1540
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: he's They've got Sean McDermot on their show tomorrow tomorrow

1541
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: morning on Good Morning Football on the NFL Network. We

1542
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: will look for that. Oh yeah, thanks to Kyle. We

1543
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: got more coming up. I want to hear you about

1544
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: our Twitter question today. Two weeks from the trade deadline.

1545
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: The Bills need to make a move to improve their offense.

1546
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Give us a call.

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01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: Eight oh three five fifty and toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty Coming back. One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health Live from the

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01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back. We're

1551
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: halfway through the show. It is one Bill's Live or

1552
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: compan here for Morchard Park. Bills returned to practice tomorrow

1553
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: and we'll have a good show tomorrow as well. We

1554
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: think we got a good one to hear halfway through.

1555
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: We like what we've done, and Mike Pereira's coming up.

1556
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just doing a little self assessment. Your

1557
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: shoulder hurting from patting yourself on the back. No, I'm

1558
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: just doing a little self assessment. What have we done

1559
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: and what's to come? Mike Prayer is going to join

1560
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: us at two o'clock, so we open up phone calls

1561
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: for Mike Prayer. Do you think he'd take that producer

1562
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: two years? I don't know if he'd be up for that.

1563
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: Might float that out time, float down out and see.

1564
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: But at any rate, we got enough questions for Mike.

1565
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in. We got a good Twitter poll

1566
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: going on today and it deals with the Bills and

1567
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: the trade deadline just two weeks away from today. I'm

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01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: guessing I haven't looked. I'm guessing it's four pm, two

1569
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: weeks from today, October twenty nine, So two weeks away

1570
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: from the trade deadline. What do you think do the

1571
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: Bills need to make a move to improve defensively? Give

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01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: us a call eight three five fifty twenty three one

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01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty Send it

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01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: a tweet. We're gonna get to the tweet sheet in

1575
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: a moment. We're voting our Twitter pole. Nine hundred votes

1576
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: on Twitter so far, and of the nine hundred, almost

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01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: half of you. Forty eight percent say yeah, they need

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01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: to make a move. They need to add a wide receiver.

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01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: Twenty seven percent say yeah, they need to add an

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Really, twenty five percent say no, stay the course.

1581
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: Seventy five percent respondent say they need to make a move.

1582
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: I'm not stunned, but I'm surprised it's a good start

1583
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: for the Bills. I mean, neither Steven nor I. Both

1584
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: Steve and I vote for a stay the course. I

1585
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: think our last guest, Kyle Brandt, who's paying attention to

1586
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: the Bills pretty closely. He says stay the course is

1587
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: the way to go. I'm not saying be conservative. I'm

1588
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: not saying don't if something presents itself and look, you

1589
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: got two weeks, But for right now, I would stay

1590
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: the course Steve, for a variety of reasons we talked about.

1591
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: Here's I think where this is generated from, and I

1592
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: think it's the offense is eighteen points a game, is

1593
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: stid of twenty five point twenty seven points. That's where

1594
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: it comes from. There, you know, a couple of field

1595
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: goals away from being what you would look at and

1596
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: say that is a team that is headed deep into

1597
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: the playoffs and is going to be a contender. What

1598
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: if I told you, and you know, I know it's

1599
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: yardage and not points. What if I told you though

1600
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: the Bills were a top in offense this year they are.

1601
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: Would you believe that? Yeah? I would in terms of

1602
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: total yards per game. Here's the interesting thing too, they're

1603
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: a top ten offense. They moved to football and they

1604
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: got there the tops in the league, a red zone efficiency.

1605
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 1: Those two things don't add up, and they're not scoring

1606
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: enough points. It's the turnovers. There, you go get rid

1607
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: of the turnovers. That's part of the stay in the course.

1608
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: What do you think, give us a call. Let's discuss.

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: Let's go to Eric in Connecticut. Hello, Eric, you're on

1610
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: the airy Hey future Hall of Famer tasker. Thanks for

1611
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:38,799
Speaker 1: taking my call um the twitter poll. I think defensively nothing.

1612
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: We are as stacked as anybody. We should be the

1613
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: number one fear defense in the playoffs, especially at the route,

1614
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: but that won't happen. Um. The only thing I would

1615
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: think of, as being a die hard and watching every

1616
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 1: game and every snap is that right tackle Cody Ford

1617
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: sometimes a little scares me a bit in sec He's

1618
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: a lot better, but he's hurt. I don't know what

1619
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: his status is. So you know, I wouldn't mind getting

1620
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: just maybe another good veteran swing tackle that can play

1621
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: inside and outside. What do you guys think? Yeah, I

1622
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: see it. You could use some depth there. Although they

1623
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: finished up the game this last week with Bates Ryan

1624
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 1: Bates at right tackle, when you know when you got

1625
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: Cody Ford and Mitch Morse hurt. I don't know that

1626
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: Bates is a long term answer. I know that he's

1627
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: the guy that went in. It wasn't anybody else. It

1628
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: wasn't I Butker, it wasn't you know any one of

1629
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 1: the other offensive lineman. They that was the guy that

1630
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: got in there, rookie free agent they traded for from Philadelphia.

1631
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: They liked him. He went in, finished the game up,

1632
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: and they closed it out of that four minute offense.

1633
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: I thought that was a huge, huge statement by the

1634
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: by the entire offensive line. He had two guys in

1635
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: off the bench finishing up the game, and three of

1636
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: those guys were forced to play different positions, and they

1637
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 1: closed out that game in a four minut an offense

1638
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: where they weren't throwing the football at all and got

1639
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: it done. That was a huge statement. I hear what

1640
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: you're saying, and Murph and I have all said it

1641
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: a long time as well. I think Cody Ford is

1642
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: a really good guard and an okay tackle, and Insecki's

1643
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: injuries have complicated the matter. His inability to stay on

1644
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: the field and stay healthy have hurt their ability because

1645
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: now that moves Cody Ford out to tackle and then

1646
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 1: you stick in I guess John Feliciano in there at

1647
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: right guard. So I'm with you. I'm always up for

1648
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: getting a better offensive lineman, particularly one that can really play,

1649
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 1: But I don't know that it's it's if the price

1650
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 1: is right. Okay, I'm up for that, But you know,

1651
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: is that guy gonna really be better for that price?

1652
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Here's a call from Dominic. Welcome to

1653
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: the show, Dominic. You're on the air of this him, Steve.

1654
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you, guys. I think personally that the bill

1655
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: should stay put, mainly because, like you guys said before, Um,

1656
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: we haven't seen the offense healthy with Singletary. I mean

1657
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,799
Speaker 1: he provides a little bit of the receiving threat. Um,

1658
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: you haven't really seen Robert Foster too much either. You

1659
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 1: saw it what he did last year. And m if

1660
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna go and get some guy at the time line,

1661
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be for a lot and be loved at

1662
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: draft picks, So you don't want to. You don't really

1663
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: want to. He's not gonna reach on a guy at

1664
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: the dead line like that. Also, Um, if you look

1665
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: at the draft, dude, there's a lot of wide receivers

1666
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: out in the draft next year. I know it's only

1667
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 1: Week seven, but if you're looking for a true number one, Um,

1668
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 1: you can find one in the draft a lot cheaper

1669
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: than a guy like a J. Green would be. If

1670
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: you tried to resigned him and a lot cheaper than

1671
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs is right now because he signed the extention

1672
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 1: last year or this year whenever it was. Um. But yeah,

1673
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: I personally, I'm with you, guys. I think they needed

1674
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 1: they needed hang on to though all picks and don't

1675
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: rea something of the deadline if it doesn't fall into

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01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 1: their lap. Thanks guys, Okay, thank you. Yeah, And that's

1677
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: a good way to put it, and I had not

1678
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: put it that way. But don't reach now. You know,

1679
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: you don't have to reach. You're not desperate. You've got

1680
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,480
Speaker 1: four wins, one lots, no need to reach here. Um.

1681
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 1: And again, we got two weeks until the deadline, so

1682
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,719
Speaker 1: stuff might change. Things gonna happen both here and elsewhere

1683
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: to make that different, but don't reach, right, What do

1684
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: you say it's a week to week league. I do

1685
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: say that. I think it's as huge. I think I've

1686
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: heard you say that before. It makes it right, true,

1687
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: It's true things may change a lot in ten days, yeah,

1688
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: and or you know, or ten days from Friday, you know,

1689
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, there's no reason I think you're keep

1690
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: on keeping on. They like the guys, they've got all

1691
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: those guys on this roster are here for a reason.

1692
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: And you know, Dominic, the caller just said, you know,

1693
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: we haven't seen Robert Foster this year. The reason Robert

1694
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: Foster hasn't been seen this year is that he can't

1695
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: get on the field. Well, you got a little banged up,

1696
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: and yeah he did. Who they couple a week? Yeah?

1697
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: Who they gonna sit down? Now, that's a good question.

1698
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 1: You gonna sit down, Duke Williams. I think so not

1699
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: After getting one hundred percent of the targets that were

1700
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: thrown to him. You can see the difference in what

1701
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: Robert Foster might offer. They're differently, They're very different and

1702
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 1: they might need that component, right, the deep threat speed passed.

1703
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: And here's the thing too, But it's all you know,

1704
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: this is all matchup based, and it's all game to

1705
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: game and I don't know that it's that critical against

1706
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: a team like Miami coming up this week. But you

1707
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: put Robert Foster on one side, who is a legit

1708
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: four three guy coming out. You got Robert Foster on

1709
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: the other side, who is known on John Brown. And

1710
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: put Robert Foster on the other side. You got two

1711
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 1: really fast guys. I think you've got Isaih McKenzie. You

1712
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: can throw in that mix and all of a sudden,

1713
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: you got a track team out there that that can

1714
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: go to any corner of the field really quick. That's

1715
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: a different kind of matchup than you put Duke Williams

1716
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: out there in Cole Beasley and two tight ends like

1717
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: like Tommy Sweeney and Dawson Knox. That's a whole different

1718
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: group to defend. And it all comes down to how

1719
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna match up with whatever defense they're playing this

1720
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 1: week in the Miami Dolphins. It may you might want

1721
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: to go with two tight ends, hit him with a

1722
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: running game and let those tight ends run free, or

1723
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: you might want to put a bunch of speed on

1724
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: the field, knowing that maybe they don't have enough guys

1725
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 1: to keep up what you've been saying this since Week one.

1726
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: They've got a lot under the hood on offense. I

1727
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: think they got a big engine. I think so too,

1728
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: and I don't think we've seen all the components it

1729
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: has that they have under the hood, including Singletary and

1730
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: obviously the tight end Tyler Croft and Robert Foster. There

1731
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 1: are other components of this offense still under the hood

1732
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: that they am not yet unveiled, So I really do,

1733
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: and I get it some people want to jump start

1734
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: this big engine with a new guy. I think, you know,

1735
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: they just need to maybe throw some quick start into

1736
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: the carburetor a little bit. You know, they've got it.

1737
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: They've got a big bunch of weapons that they haven't

1738
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: tapped into yet. Devin Singletaries is a catalyst for a

1739
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: lot of guys playing better out there because they can

1740
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: leave him on the field in certain situations and not

1741
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: sub him out and tip off what they're gonna do.

1742
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: You can go in different personnel combinations. I think this

1743
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: offense has got a lot under the hood that they

1744
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,799
Speaker 1: have not tapped into yet, and I don't think bringing

1745
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: more things in is going to necessarily make them better

1746
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: than what they already are. If they can just find

1747
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: a way to get all these components acclimated, get them

1748
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: on the field, get the football to them. I think

1749
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: it has more to do with maybe Josh than it

1750
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: does with the guys on the outside or some new

1751
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: toy that we haven't seen yet. And it's about turnovers.

1752
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: With Josh, it's about turnover and they are a top

1753
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: ten offense right now, top ten in the league all right,

1754
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna break. We're gonna get to the tweet sheet

1755
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: when we return. This hour is flying by. Come on back,

1756
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: One Goes Live presented by Kalada Health Line from the

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01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: Seneca Studio Seneca Resorts in Casino. Nothing comes close. Welcome Back,

1758
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: One Goes Live comes to you from Orchard Park. It

1759
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: is absolutely gorgeous outside right now, Steve Tasker, did you

1760
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: take a look? I did. Fifty eight degrees, beautiful blue skies,

1761
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 1: not a cloud in the sky, farn skies. So now

1762
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: I get thinking, maybe this is what we get Sunday.

1763
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: Sunday's forecast, the early forecast is for mostly cloudy skies

1764
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: and sixty four degrees. Really another chance of rain on Sunday.

1765
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: Did you notice when you're driving in it is full

1766
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: blown autumn out? Not quite though, I don't think it's

1767
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: full yet. What do they call it peak peak? I

1768
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: don't think it's peak yet, but man, oh man, is

1769
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: it beautiful out? Oh yeah? Sun hits that the sun,

1770
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: the sunrise this morning on this tree. It was. It

1771
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: really is spectacular out this. I spent the weekend in

1772
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 1: Finger Lakes and it was much more color advanced, yeah

1773
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: than it is here a little bit more anyway, but

1774
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: still not peak anyway. The Bills two weeks away from

1775
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, our question is did he need to

1776
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: make a move to improve offensively? We got to get

1777
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet. Haven't done that yet. Today the

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01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

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01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills. On the tweet sheet

1780
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: from William he says, I voted to stay the course.

1781
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: There's a saying that goes, if it ain't broke, don't

1782
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: fix it. I've heard that. Williams says, I agree with

1783
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: that right now for the Bills, why give up draft

1784
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: picks which they don't have a lot of next year

1785
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: for someone like a J Green After Sunday, I don't

1786
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: see the vikings letting digs go either. Good points, william

1787
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: and I hear what you're saying. I see it. Brian

1788
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 1: tweets this, and we could use a wide receiver upgrade.

1789
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: But I think we are still one year of Josh

1790
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: Allen growth away from being a true Super Bowl contender

1791
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: until he consistently shows he can move the ball without

1792
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: the turnovers. A trade at this point is a waste

1793
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: unless it's a long term move stay the course. A

1794
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: couple of interesting thoughts there from. With eleven games to go,

1795
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: you gotta think, yeah, the turnovers have been the big

1796
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: bug a boo whatever, you have a problem. He seemed

1797
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: to throw him. He threw him in bunches against the Patriots.

1798
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: He's done in other games this year where the defense

1799
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: was able to bail him out of and they climbed

1800
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: out of it. And even in this last game he

1801
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: threw one. They had one turnover in the game right

1802
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans, and you know they only won

1803
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: by what a touchdown sick points, so that they still

1804
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: got to find a way to score points. That's got

1805
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: to be the difference. They've got to put up twenty

1806
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: four twenty five, you know, four touchdowns or plus a

1807
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 1: couple of field goals on average. We've been talking about it.

1808
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 1: Good playoff teams are twenty four and a half point

1809
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: average scoring teams in the NFL. The Bills need two

1810
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: more field goals to get there. You know, two more

1811
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 1: field goals will get them in that neighborhood. So if

1812
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: they might have gotten there a couple of times this year,

1813
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: but they won the games anyway, So we'll see what

1814
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: happens from this point four. But if you stop turning

1815
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: it over and start converting some of those turnovers ins

1816
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: that just field goals, you know, the team takes a

1817
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 1: big step forward and they're even more difficult to beat

1818
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: than they are with a four and one record. Josh

1819
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: Allen has thrown seven interceptions, Matt Barkley has thrown one,

1820
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,919
Speaker 1: and league wide, in in terms of percent of passes

1821
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: have intercepted, the Bills their fourth worse than the league.

1822
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 1: They're twenty ninth in the league in the percentage of

1823
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: their passes intercepted. That can't finally has to get better.

1824
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: I think it will get better. I really do. I

1825
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: think it has to get better. Yeah, and we you know,

1826
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: we've seen it's it's one of those. The problem with

1827
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: it is it's the most unpredictable thing ever. Right tipped

1828
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: passes and stuff you see you sought. In the Green

1829
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 1: Bay Packer game last night, Aaron Rodgers throws one down

1830
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: deep into Lion territory. The receiver turns around, kind of

1831
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: running one way, turns back the other way, bounces right

1832
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: off his face mask. Should have been caught for a

1833
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: big game. Great play, great throw, doink off his face

1834
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: mask going the other way. Lion's ball, right, So you

1835
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing is the most unpredictable part

1836
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: of NFL football games. But we know this. We've seen

1837
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: a lot of it this year with Josh Allen. Those

1838
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: interceptions that are just flat out dumb, and those are

1839
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: the ones that make you pull your hair out, yep,

1840
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: and you gotta limit those and get rid of them.

1841
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: Got a call around the land. He's been waiting a while,

1842
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: Joe and tinn of wanting to go ahead. Joe, thanks

1843
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: for standing by. Hey, guys, sir, I can't even believe

1844
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: we even have this question. I thought we don't mess

1845
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: with your bills, Sean, what's up with that? All right? Uh,

1846
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: there's no way in the world we're gonna get Antonio Brown, Right,

1847
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: that's totally out of the question, I hope. So I'll

1848
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: say yes, all right? Uh, is there any chance? Uh?

1849
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't want it to happen, but just in

1850
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: case Beasley gets hurt, is Danny Amondola open for discussion?

1851
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay, Amondola's playing somewhere, isn't he find out?

1852
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's playing somewhere. Yeah, it might be

1853
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: you don't want Antonio Brown, by the way, after the

1854
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 1: antics he pulled in Oakland and and the trouble he

1855
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: has been revealed to be in, you know when he

1856
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,799
Speaker 1: went to New England. Really you really want Antonio Brown? Um,

1857
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. It's like a weird

1858
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: impulse that some fans have. We gotta make a trade,

1859
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: trade down one, gotta do something, gotta be active, gotta

1860
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: make a trade. No, you don't when you're for on

1861
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 1: when you especially don't. A Mendola's with the Detroit Lions.

1862
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: He played last night and he might be h he

1863
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 1: was questionable for week six, So I didn't and I

1864
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: don't know even know. I didn't see last night that

1865
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: even played, So I don't know. We'll get more into

1866
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,520
Speaker 1: this should the Bills make a trade to improve offensively?

1867
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Steve and I say, right now, stay the course, but

1868
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: we'll entertain other suggestions. I guess in the third and

1869
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 1: final hour of the show. I'd like to talk about officiating.

1870
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna do that when we return. Mike Pereira one

1871
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: of the foremost experts on NFL officiating from the NFL

1872
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: on Fox. He's the league's former director of Officiating, boy,

1873
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,759
Speaker 1: I didn't even know where to begin with Mike Perera.

1874
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: There's just a lot we'll talk about him. Dive in,

1875
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. We'll start with the calls last night,

1876
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 1: one hour ago, One Bill's Live presented a by Kalada

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01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 1: Hell from the Seneca studio, and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1878
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Sports Update, an update from One Bill's

1879
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Drive player's day off today. They resumed practice tomorrow, getting

1880
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins coming to town on Sunday. They

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01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 1: may get Devin Singletary back for the Dolphins game. He's

1882
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,759
Speaker 1: missed three games and had the bye week to recover

1883
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: from his hamstring strain. He was close to returning last game.

1884
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: Buffledo offense may get a chance to do some damage

1885
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 1: against his Miami defense. They are dead last in the

1886
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: league defensively in yards and points. Meantime, the Dolphins being

1887
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: coy about their quarterback plans. Coach Brian Flores said just

1888
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 1: last week that Josh Rosen will finish the years to starter,

1889
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: but now he backed off that a little bit. Yesterday

1890
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,839
Speaker 1: he says, well, see what happens this week in practice.

1891
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 1: He said they already have a good evaluation of Josh Rosen,

1892
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,600
Speaker 1: which implies he does not feel like he needs to

1893
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: play him to make a decision on whether Josh Rosen

1894
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: is their man moving forward. Cam Newton's foot injury is healed,

1895
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 1: He's expected to be back in the lineup or the

1896
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers this week. Kyle Allen, an undrafted free agent,

1897
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 1: has gone four and oh as Carolina starter in Newton's absence.

1898
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: Newton struggled for the first two weeks this year with

1899
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: a mild Liz Frank sprain that shut him down. Meantime,

1900
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: the Panthers released punt return specialist Ray Ray McLeod, the

1901
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: former Bills draft pick. He had ten punt returns for

1902
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: eighty two yards, but in his games against Tampa Bay

1903
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: Buccaneers three muff punts, including a third and final fund

1904
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: role in the Panthers went over the Buccaneers on Sunday

1905
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: in London. Ray Ray McLoud now looking for a third team.

1906
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: He began in the league with the Bills as their

1907
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: sixth round pick a couple of years ago. Meantime, the

1908
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: XFL is getting set to assigned players, assigning quarterbacks and

1909
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: drafting quarterbacks. Today. Former UB quarterback Tyree Jackson drafted in

1910
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,520
Speaker 1: the ninth round of the XFL by the DC Defenders.

1911
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: He spent the last offseason with the Bills and another

1912
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 1: former Bill, Cardinal Jones. Former Bills traft Pick, was among

1913
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: eight quarterbacks assigned to teams today he will play also

1914
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 1: for the DC Defenders. Cardinal Jones was the Bill's fourth

1915
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: round pick in twenty sixteen. Savers in California for a

1916
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 1: three game trip starts to around night against Anaheim. Practicing

1917
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 1: today out West in baseball playoffs. Today, we're about a

1918
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: couple hours away from Houston and New York in Game

1919
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 1: three of the American League Championship Series. Four oh eight,

1920
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: first pitch at Yankee Stadium. That's the update from One

1921
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 1: Bill Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker with a special guest,

1922
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: a timely guest on the line with us right now.

1923
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 1: He is the rules analyst for the NFL on Fox,

1924
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 1: former NFL Vice President, vice president of Officiating, and former

1925
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: NFL official. Happy to have Mike Pereira on the line

1926
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: with us. Mike, good afternoon, John Murphy and Steve Tasker

1927
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 1: up here in Buffalo. We got a lot to get

1928
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 1: to but I want to check with you and see

1929
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 1: how you made out with your Battlefields to ball Fields

1930
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: golf tournament in Rochester back in mid June, the first

1931
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: one you had up this way. How did they go

1932
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: this past summer? You know, it was fantastic. We had

1933
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: over a hundred players and we had I think it

1934
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: was sixty eight of them were either active service members

1935
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 1: or veterans and they had a ball. Each branch of

1936
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: the service was represented. We had a terrific dinner afterwards.

1937
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 1: We had a great day for golf. It would get

1938
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: a perfect day and wonderful support for the foundation that

1939
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: you know has now grown to two hundred and thirty.

1940
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,520
Speaker 1: We have officials around the country now working on scholarship

1941
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: and of course a great a great group of them

1942
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 1: in the Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse area. So um, it's just

1943
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: been a great program where you guys are good to hear. Well,

1944
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: we can count on you having another event like that

1945
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: year to year up here in this region. Are you

1946
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: going to move it around? Well, I'm gonna move it

1947
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: around a bit. I think if I wanted a year

1948
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,799
Speaker 1: by year, Jimmy de Bell would probably kill me because

1949
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 1: it takes a it takes a lot to put one

1950
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: of those, uh, one of those on but but it's

1951
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: just it's great exposure and it does it does raise money,

1952
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: and we had great cooperation from the course itself and

1953
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: all the people in the Rochester area, and and also

1954
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: support from people like yourself that talked about it, you know,

1955
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: prior to the event, So it was it was very

1956
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: cool prior. I'm the line with this NFL on Fox

1957
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: rules official almost hard to know where to begin, Mike,

1958
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 1: Is the officiating is in as much as a crisis

1959
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 1: situation as it might seem? Or are we just over

1960
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 1: reacting to some social media hypeer? What do you think? Well,

1961
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to say that we're overreacting, but I just

1962
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: don't think I can honestly say that. You know, it's

1963
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: just been a tough goal. It's been a tough goal

1964
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 1: really since the championship game in New Orleans last year

1965
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 1: with the big miss and you know, in the past

1966
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: interference play, and I think it's carried over into this season.

1967
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: And I was asked the question earlier today, and it's

1968
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: always a tough one for me to answer. You know,

1969
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: is the officiating better today than it was when I

1970
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 1: was there? Is it the same or is it worse?

1971
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I struggle with that question because I

1972
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 1: get it, you know, asked so often, and you know,

1973
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 1: I think, really, after thinking about it, I think that

1974
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: the actually, top to bottom, there are better officials now

1975
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: top to bottom than there were back when I was there.

1976
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 1: But the officiating I do not think is as good.

1977
01:34:54,960 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 1: And the reasons, you know, are complex but probably not

1978
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: what people would generally think. And it has to do

1979
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: with the rules, and it has to do with the

1980
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: communication systems that officials are privy to now and then

1981
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:17,560
Speaker 1: the actual rules themselves that have brought judgment into instant replay.

1982
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 1: It is made the game harder to officiate, and in

1983
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 1: some ways it's allowed the officials to back off and

1984
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: rely more on the technology than we had to in

1985
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: the past. And you know, the I think one of

1986
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: the killers of it is is that you know, everybody's

1987
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: wearing an earpiece now. And it started out and I

1988
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: was for it when it first started out. A new

1989
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 1: communication system which pretty much everybody's using now, even all

1990
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 1: the way down to the high school level, called the

1991
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: O two oh, and that's official too. Officials so that

1992
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: they could communicate directly to each other without having to

1993
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 1: go face to face, and the idea was great. The

1994
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 1: two basic ones. You got to file down field. You

1995
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: don't have to go to the reference. You can just

1996
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: hit your button and tell him, hey, it's pass interference

1997
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: on thirty two. He can make the announcement. And then

1998
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: you go a coach on the sideline who their team

1999
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 1: gets called for a foul and it's on the other

2000
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: side of the field. He could say, what what'd he call?

2001
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: What do you have? And I remember, excuse me, I

2002
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 1: remember that. Well, when we didn't have the system, you'd

2003
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 1: have to say, well, in the next dead ball period

2004
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 1: of time out, I'll go find out. Well, now you

2005
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: hit the button and say what you call? This guy

2006
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 1: said he grabbed him by the shoulder at the top

2007
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 1: of the route, and that's why I called defensive old

2008
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 1: He go back to coach. Done great, but it's morphed

2009
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,719
Speaker 1: into now the replay official is on it, New York

2010
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 1: is on it, and you got guys talking in your

2011
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 1: ears all the time, and I think I think that's

2012
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: hurt officiating, along with the fact that when you look

2013
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: at the leadership roles, you know that it's pretty hard

2014
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 1: to say that it's really stable when you've had four

2015
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 1: counting myself, you know, in the last basically ten years,

2016
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 1: and that change in leadership is always difficult for officiating.

2017
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 1: So a lot of reasons, but I do think it's

2018
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: more of a crisis, you know, than just saying it's

2019
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 1: the norm, because and mainly it's this whole it's this

2020
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 1: whole pass interference thing that has just got everybody upside down. Yeah.

2021
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you there, and you're right,

2022
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: I think it is more difficult. The technology. While it

2023
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 1: seemed to make it seemed on the surface a great

2024
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: way to make it easier or more efficient to officiate games,

2025
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 1: it's actually made it more complex and more difficult than

2026
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 1: it started, to affect their judgment and their willingness to

2027
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:40,719
Speaker 1: throw a flag or keep a flag in their pocket.

2028
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:44,879
Speaker 1: I gotta ask it, are there maybe some simple, basic

2029
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 1: steps that you see that could help. Well, it's not

2030
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 1: gonna be easy, I mean, and it's too simple for

2031
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 1: me to say. Let's go back to where it was

2032
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 1: when I was on the field, where you had to

2033
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 1: make the calls yourself and you didn't have anybody telling

2034
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 1: you to move the ball from the forty six to

2035
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: the forty eight, you know, or hey, wait a minute,

2036
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: you rule them out of bounds at the forty three,

2037
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 1: push it to the forty four. You know, we had

2038
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: to make those decisions, and I think it made you,

2039
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 1: it made you a bit more decisive. But you know,

2040
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: I think, and I said this today, and I don't

2041
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: really say it to be mean, I just think the

2042
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: structure is broken, and you know, and it can't be

2043
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 1: fixed with band aids. It's it's got to be something major.

2044
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,759
Speaker 1: And I always was an advocate of what was tried

2045
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: in the AAF and that was the sky judge position,

2046
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: who is basically just an eighth official who can give

2047
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: his input in real time after looking at the video

2048
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,559
Speaker 1: one time quickly and can make adjustments in the same

2049
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 1: dead ball period, you know, over things like in the

2050
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,759
Speaker 1: AF we had a pass an appearance in the last

2051
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: five minutes of the game, or players safety issue, you know,

2052
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: just like last night would be an example. If you

2053
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,560
Speaker 1: if you had that guy upstairs and you know on

2054
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 1: the Allison hit, I think it was where he was

2055
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,799
Speaker 1: knocked out and the penalty was called that's not a foul.

2056
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean those guys had equal rights to the path

2057
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 1: of the ball and you know the defender was trying

2058
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: to intercept the ball. Well he gets defensive player protection. Also,

2059
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 1: it's just one of those collisions that happens, and guy

2060
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,719
Speaker 1: upstairs could see that one time first replay and say, hey,

2061
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: not a foul, pick it up, and everybody would say

2062
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: a good deal, good deal, and we didn't have to

2063
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 1: go to replay for three minutes to do it. I

2064
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:31,480
Speaker 1: think there are some big fixes like that that the

2065
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: competition Committee and the owners could talk about now. Whether

2066
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 1: they're going to talk about it in the next couple

2067
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 1: of days in their meetings in Florida, I don't know.

2068
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: But then the other thing is that the rule for

2069
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: past interference, allowing it to be reviewed, just has to

2070
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: change because everyone is flummixed by it. And the reason

2071
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 1: that they're flummixed is because they have created two standards

2072
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 1: of replay. They've created a standard of what you expect

2073
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: to be called hold on the field versus a standard

2074
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: of what you expect to be used in replay. And

2075
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: it's it's hard for a coach, it's hard for a spectator,

2076
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 1: it's hard for an owner. It's hard for the head

2077
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 1: of officiating Al Riveron to say, yeah, it's interference, but

2078
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't rise to the level that is clear and

2079
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: obvious and egregious. You know, that would a lot that

2080
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 1: would have replay changed the decision to standards not a

2081
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 1: good thing. And I think if they this whole thing

2082
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 1: of clear and obviously insignificantly hindered, I think has been

2083
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,759
Speaker 1: stretched too far to try to get to what happened

2084
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: in the championship game in New Orleans. And I think

2085
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 1: to straighten this out. You know, if it's a replay

2086
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:52,440
Speaker 1: situation where a coach challenges that it should be defensive

2087
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 1: pass interference, and you run the video and you look

2088
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: at it and it is defensive pass interference, then it

2089
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 1: ought to be at it all by replay. Forget that

2090
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: it has to be so huge and obvious. If it's interference,

2091
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 1: it's interference. If it's not, it's not. And to me,

2092
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: it would make that much easier and much more sensible.

2093
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: May lead to a few more coaches challenging because they'll

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01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 1: at least be fairly optimistic that it could be changed.

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01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: Right now, there's no optimism that it could be changed,

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01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 1: but I think it would be I think it would

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01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: make sense to everybody involved in the game now. And

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01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 1: I said this a little bit earlier today too. Take

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01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: this whole situation like happened at the end of the

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01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 1: Giants Patriots game on the past to take you know,

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01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: that's interference. I mean, there's no question it's interference, but

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01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 1: it didn't rise to the level wasn't called, so it

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01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 1: didn't rise to the level that replay would put it on. Well,

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01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 1: make that week seventeen when the Bills are playing for

2105
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 1: a spot playoffs and have it keep them out of

2106
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 1: the playoffs because it didn't rise to this subjective, ambiguous level,

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01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,759
Speaker 1: and boy, it'll be horrible. My prayer our guests NFL

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01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 1: on Fox rules analysts. My two part question, where did

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01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: that clear and abbious standard come from? It just came

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01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 1: out of nowhere right second part of the question. It

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01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 1: appears to me that the officials are not interested in

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01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 1: using replay to challenge pass interference offensively or defensively, and

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01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 1: knowing that it's just a one year experiment, they might

2114
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: be thinking, we'll just get through it this way and

2115
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:26,640
Speaker 1: it'll be gone next year. Well they might think that

2116
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 1: until they get downgraded for not calling it, and then

2117
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: their chances to work in the playoffs get blown off.

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01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 1: So I don't know that that's it. I just think

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01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 1: that I think it's a bad rule. Look it. I

2120
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 1: think it's an overreaction, and it's not the first time

2121
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: that the league is overreacted and put in a rule

2122
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: change based on one play. And that's really what happened here.

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01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 1: And I was part of that. Back in my days,

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01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 1: we overreacted sometime when a play like that happened, change

2125
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 1: the rule. Micha Holmgren used to say, I remember, Michael,

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01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: that's not changed the damn rule over one play when

2127
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: he was on the competition committee. And he's right, he

2128
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 1: was right. And you know, to me, it would have

2129
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 1: been much simpler to use a maybe a time period,

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01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, the last five minutes of the fourth quarter,

2131
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: because in that game last year in New Orleans there

2132
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 1: a pass interference, a big one that was missing the

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01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 1: first quarter. Anybody know when that was no? Yeah, no,

2134
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 1: Where did the cliller wasn't at the end of the game.

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01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: Where did the clear and obvious standard come from? How

2136
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 1: did think, well, clear and obvious is in the book.

2137
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 1: It used to be indisputable visual evidence, and they thought

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01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 1: that was hard to say, so let's just say clear

2139
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: and obvious. So they put clear and obvious in the

2140
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: rule book about three years ago. I think it was,

2141
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 1: and that's when that verbiage showed up. But that replaced

2142
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, indisputable visual evidence. It's just easier to say.

2143
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 1: But this particular rule takes it even stretches it even

2144
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 1: further than that. Michael, this clear and obvious, and this

2145
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 1: ability for coaches to challenge the offensive and defensive pass interfairs,

2146
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 1: whether it's cold or not, it really seems to me

2147
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: when it happened as a paradigm time shift. You're right,

2148
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I this happened because of the missed call

2149
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game this last January. And for

2150
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 1: me to say that the New Orleans Saints were were

2151
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 1: there the mistake that cost them a chance to win

2152
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 1: that game was any more egregious than any one of

2153
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 1: the dozen or two a dozen other egregious calls in

2154
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: the past decades is wrong. I think that. You know,

2155
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:28,759
Speaker 1: if the Saints want to say that they were somehow

2156
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 1: treated worse than any other team, they got to get

2157
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: in line for that. I mean, so, why did this

2158
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,639
Speaker 1: Why did this rule get changed when there have been

2159
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: so many other calls or non calls over the course

2160
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 1: of the hundred years of the league that have you know,

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01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 1: caused teams seasons to end or continue. Whichever side of

2162
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,679
Speaker 1: the coin you're on. Why did this one call all

2163
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden change all that, and now they're gonna

2164
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 1: make this huge, sweeping change that they've never really dipped

2165
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 1: their toe in into. Maybe the stars lined up on

2166
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: because the coach of the team that hurt by that

2167
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 1: miss call happens to be on the competition committee, and

2168
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 1: so maybe he goes into the competition committee with an

2169
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 1: agenda that he's got to come back with something. And

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01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:18,719
Speaker 1: I do think that swayed the whole notion of bringing

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01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,879
Speaker 1: in something to address that play. And then the coaches

2172
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: got involved and they liked the sky judge idea, but

2173
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 1: then that wasn't going to go away, and then they

2174
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 1: got pushed to accept this challenge notion. But I do

2175
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 1: have to wonder if there if Sean Payton wasn't on

2176
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 1: the competition committee, that that there wouldn't be a new

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01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 1: replay rule. Just a minute two left with Mike Pereira,

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01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 1: former NFL Vice President of Officiating, League owners meeting in Florida,

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01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale right now today tomorrow, I believe Mike and

2180
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Al Riveron is there you as vice president officiating, you

2181
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,600
Speaker 1: probably went to these meetings. Is there a chance that

2182
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 1: at these meetings the owners get together with Al Riveron

2183
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: and say, hey, this isn't working. We got to change something.

2184
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: You got to change it now. And you know, six

2185
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 1: weeks into this twenty nineteen season, can they can they

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01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 1: adapt that quickly and make any kind of a change

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01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: you think that quickly? Sure? Sure? I mean, let's look

2188
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 1: what happened last year. I mean, if you talk about

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01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: last year, remember the first two weeks we had this

2190
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 1: outbreak of landing on top of the quarterback with all

2191
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 1: or most of your body weight, and it was being

2192
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, it was being called so much that there

2193
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 1: was a conference call with the committee and Roger Goodell

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01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: and and uh you know that that they were they

2195
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 1: were actually over officiating the play when it was just

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01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: a point of emphasis and you got to give a

2197
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: chance for the guy to brace itself in his fall.

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01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: And then what happened? They went down, You know, they

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01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: went down substantially. Let's look what happened a week two

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01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 1: of this season. How about how about see actually week three,

2201
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: but the number of offensive holding calls? Yeah, and so

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01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 1: then conference call with the referees, and now it's down

2203
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 1: to a level that was less than last year over

2204
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: the past three weeks, So certainly adjustments can be made. Now.

2205
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 1: I don't think they couldn't scrap the rule, but there

2206
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 1: are some logical minds there that could say, Okay, we've

2207
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 1: we've created a monster here. Let's just go to the

2208
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,640
Speaker 1: simple notion of when replay gets involved, it either is

2209
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: or isn't, and then we'll make the judgment based on that,

2210
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:24,759
Speaker 1: not by this huge thing trying to reach what happened

2211
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 1: in the championship game last year. That's certainly a possibility. Well,

2212
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,839
Speaker 1: what do you make of the calls like like for instance,

2213
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 1: and I told this to murf earlier in the show,

2214
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:38,799
Speaker 1: that players and coaches really are more grieved by calls

2215
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 1: that are phantom calls and they are by calls that

2216
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: are missed. You know, you can live with a call

2217
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 1: that when an official didn't see something, but when official

2218
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 1: calls something that didn't happen, like the hands of the

2219
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: face call last night in the Detroit Green Bay game,

2220
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 1: Isn't that even that's kind of to me? Maybe you

2221
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 1: disagree to me. That's the most egregious thing when you

2222
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: think you see something that actually didn't happen, and it

2223
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: does affect the outcome of the game, like in last

2224
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,599
Speaker 1: night's Monday Night game. Well, when you see something that

2225
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: doesn't even near happen, and that's what to me, a

2226
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 1: phantom is when you call something that is just no

2227
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: possibility of being there. We're all jumping on this illegal

2228
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 1: hands of the facing. Yep, they weren't right. But remember

2229
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 1: you can't use your hands to the neck or head

2230
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: area in blocking like that, either rushing or if you're

2231
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 1: block pass blocking, and it's the neck or head. And

2232
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: so if you're the umpire and this guy grabs the

2233
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 1: collar of the jersey right below the neck in real time,

2234
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 1: now real time, you got to make that decision, I

2235
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 1: can see why the call was made wrong. But you're

2236
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 1: talking about you're talking about, really, Steve. You're talking about

2237
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: probably less than a foot maybe a foot difference from

2238
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: being on the collar to the neck and the other

2239
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 1: one which ended up being, you know, to the left

2240
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 1: shoulder versus the neck just to the side. It's so

2241
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 1: easy in slow motion to see that, but come on,

2242
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 1: in real time, it's it's tough. And this is a

2243
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 1: veteran guy who's not going to be happy with himself

2244
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 1: after he sees it on video. But I can see

2245
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: why he called it. I mean, it's not like it

2246
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 1: wasn't near a foul, so it's tough. But those you

2247
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 1: have to play through, those judgment things you have to

2248
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 1: play through. It's when the rule complicates the issue, like

2249
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: would catch no catch, like with pass interference no pass interference.

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01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 1: Those are the situations that drive me nuts, that make

2251
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 1: it hard on the official and hard on the vice

2252
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 1: president of officiating to try to figure out where the

2253
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 1: line needs to be drawn. And you know, more and

2254
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 1: more gray area is getting into this game, more and

2255
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 1: more replay is getting into this game, and I have

2256
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 1: to admit I'm just getting a little bit tired of

2257
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: replay period. Thanks you, you're on my glass. Thing I

2258
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,640
Speaker 1: have for you and in your role, your former role

2259
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 1: as vice president of officiating, what's discussion at these meetings

2260
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 1: this week and even you know during the offseason, what

2261
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: damage is done to the game when there's so much

2262
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 1: focus on officiating like this, Well, they don't want it.

2263
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean listen, if the league have its way, Blandino

2264
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: and myself probably would still be in the office and

2265
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:20,719
Speaker 1: sterator and Perry and macaulay would still be refereeing games.

2266
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: I mean, they would rather be rather the conversation be

2267
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 1: about the teams and the players. I get that, but

2268
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 1: let's face it, the officials are a team and they

2269
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 1: are a part of the game, an intrical part of

2270
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 1: the game. And to try to sweep it under the

2271
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 1: carpet like they used to do, I don't think it's right.

2272
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 1: I think there needs to be transparency and there needs

2273
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: to be people that talk about officiating, both in the

2274
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 1: negative and the positive. So I think they'd rather the

2275
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 1: conversation be about just the teams. But let's face it,

2276
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,919
Speaker 1: with social media, that's never going to be the case anymore.

2277
01:50:56,120 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 1: With social media, everything you know basically originally nates from

2278
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 1: social media when it comes to officiating. So that's that's

2279
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 1: like a time gone by and you can't go back

2280
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: to that. Well that was gonna what I was gonna ask.

2281
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 1: Can they put the genie back in the bottle? No? Yeah,

2282
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 1: oh you mean replace here to stay. I'm not gonna

2283
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:19,599
Speaker 1: go backwards. Okay, Mike, thanks for this great spending time.

2284
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 1: We did it here today. We appreciate it. You got ah,

2285
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, Thanks Mike. Pereira, NFL on Fox Rules analyst,

2286
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:30,639
Speaker 1: former League vice president of officiating, former NFL official. Uh um, well,

2287
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought I had convinced him that's a

2288
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 1: way with replay there for a minute, and then at

2289
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 1: the end he said, you can't put it away. I

2290
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 1: think you can. You knew it, Okay, I knew it.

2291
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have a bet on that because

2292
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah, what do you? But I believe in

2293
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 1: the next five years, replay will be gone or at

2294
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 1: least significantly diminished in its application in the way and

2295
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 1: pificantly diminished. Yes, let's just wait, you know, no, let's

2296
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 1: go back to how it started. Position in possession, where's

2297
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 1: the ball, who has the ball? Boom, That's all you

2298
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: use replay for. Let's start with that and eventually eliminate

2299
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: it altogether. And when it first came in, it was

2300
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: all about position and possession. Where's the ball? Do we

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01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:10,719
Speaker 1: have the right line of scrimmages he inbounds, out of bounds?

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01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,599
Speaker 1: And possession? Does he have the ball? Let's limit replay

2303
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: to that as a starting point. You're good with that

2304
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 1: fine position and possession. That's but within five years the

2305
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 1: replay will be significantly diminished as an officiating tool. I

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01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: believe I think people are gonna come around to my

2307
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 1: way of thinking. I really do. Okay, you don't know.

2308
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 1: I think that's why I think it would be backwards

2309
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,640
Speaker 1: and they'd be a caveman football. What you wouldn't be

2310
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 1: able to know. It's a human thing. Guys miss blocks,

2311
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 1: Guys miss tackles. People sometimes trip over a yard line.

2312
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 1: It's a human endeavor. There is. There are mistakes made

2313
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 1: by both teams and by officials. I'm good with that.

2314
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: That's part of what makes it a game. It happens

2315
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, I get it. And you have

2316
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 1: You have an elevated view from your from your seat

2317
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: about your view of the game because you've been around.

2318
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: Same with me. Let me just tell you this as

2319
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 1: a former player, a guy who was one of those

2320
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 1: guys wearing the helmets, those miss tackles and all that stuff.

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01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 1: Their feelings and the feelings I had as a players,

2322
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: the coaches, None of that stuff matters. What matters is

2323
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,840
Speaker 1: you got twenty gazillion people on the other side of

2324
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:22,840
Speaker 1: the camera who want them to get it right. Every

2325
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:24,600
Speaker 1: time I want to get it right, they want to

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01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: get it right, and they don't want to after they

2327
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: make a call to go back and say, well, what

2328
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 1: do they do and look at that it's obviously wrong.

2329
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: You can't live like the replay is not guaranteed that

2330
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 1: they get it right. It creates as many issues as

2331
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 1: we're seeing right now, creates as many issues as itselves

2332
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,679
Speaker 1: it does, and we're seeing it right now. So here's

2333
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 1: the thing. The problem is getting it right, getting it fast,

2334
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,680
Speaker 1: and not having something that we can't even watch on

2335
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 1: TV like it's been right. That's the problem. If you

2336
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 1: can use replay all you want, as long as the

2337
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,120
Speaker 1: game it's not an intrusive part of the game, and

2338
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: get it. And here's the thing too, Murph. One of

2339
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 1: the reasons that we're here is because and it's all

2340
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 1: over social media today is the radio. Everybody's SORR. It's inconsistent. Now,

2341
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: what it's good in this game isn't good in that game.

2342
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: What's wrong in this game is right in this game.

2343
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 1: This guy's judgment from New York is different on the

2344
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: same play in two different stadiums on the same Sunday.

2345
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 1: You can't live like that. The whole thing was put

2346
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,679
Speaker 1: together so that you'd have one guy in New York

2347
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 1: who is consistent, saw everything the same way, called everything

2348
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 1: the same way. It's impartial. And now and now they

2349
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 1: got a guy in there who doesn't know what he's doing.

2350
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 1: They got a guy in there who calls it one

2351
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 1: way or inserts himself into a play where there's you're

2352
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 1: debating it for ten minutes whether it's right or wrong,

2353
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 1: where the other guy says, listen, if it's that bigger debate,

2354
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 1: the call's got to stand. But this guy, for some

2355
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 1: reason jumps in and makes some call who and just

2356
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 1: dissects it on and on and on and debates it,

2357
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 1: debates it because for some reason he wants to get

2358
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 1: it right or wrong and makes a call instead of saying, listen,

2359
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 1: we can't tell go. This guy does that week to week,

2360
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: and now you got the whole fan base and every

2361
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 1: team going what are you doing? It all comes down

2362
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 1: the whole system was put in place for a guy

2363
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,360
Speaker 1: like Dean Blandino to get in there and make the

2364
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 1: same call on the same play every single time it

2365
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 1: comes up. And now they got a guy in there

2366
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 1: who does not do that. Well, maybe the next guy

2367
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 1: who might be on the job next week will not

2368
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 1: have that strength, either not be Blandino or Pereira or

2369
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 1: somebody like that. You can guarantee that you'll have a

2370
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: competent guy in there every year, every time I agree

2371
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 1: with it. This guy River, he might be gone by

2372
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: by the time you four o'clock today. Yeah, he was

2373
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 1: your meetings, okay, and he's at the meetings now. And

2374
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 1: you better believe they're talking about it. This guy could

2375
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 1: be gone by the end of business today. It's been,

2376
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 1: but the next guy might not be any better. Who

2377
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: is he? Here's the thing you want to fix, officiating.

2378
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 1: Don't let good officials get out your door. Keep him

2379
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 1: in the keep him in the game, don't let him

2380
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 1: take pay him, pay them, train them, make them full

2381
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 1: time so that this is their professional job. Yeah, all

2382
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 1: time officials make a difference. They would. Yeah, there's your problem.

2383
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 1: It's one of them. It's one of them. All right.

2384
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about this. We're gonna talk about the

2385
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 1: Bills and two weeks from the trade deadline, do the

2386
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 1: Bills need to make a move to improve their offense.

2387
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 1: You can talk about officiating if you want as well.

2388
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 1: We got time to go. More than a half hour

2389
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 1: left in the show. Come on, back for more. It

2390
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 1: is One Bills Live presented by Kalaida Health. We're coming

2391
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:28,839
Speaker 1: to here from the Seneca studio and this is Buffalo

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01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back. On Tuesdays, we'd like to salute

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2397
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Speaker 1: beat Letchworth Warsaw seven to six last weekend. Leroy is

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Speaker 1: six and oh on the season. Congratulations coaches. Welcome back

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01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 1: to the show. John Murphy, Steve Tasker here until three,

2404
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 1: had a good conversation, a couple of good conversations today

2405
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 1: about officiating, about the Bills. Two weeks from the trade deadline.

2406
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 1: Do they need to make a move And we open

2407
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 1: the conversation up to you for the next few minutes

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01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 1: if you'd like to join us eight oh three five fifty.

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Steve wants to

2411
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 1: get back to the tweet sheet as well, and we

2412
01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 1: can do some of that, but first a call or two,

2413
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 1: and I think a couple of calls about officiating. Gino

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01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 1: and Lancaster. Go ahead, Gino, you're on the air with

2415
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 1: list How are you doing great listening? The thing is

2416
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 1: we're the same age generation and our eyes are not

2417
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 1: as war king as good as they used to. You

2418
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 1: have to have um replay. No, you don't. Why do

2419
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 1: you have to have it? We have to have it.

2420
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 1: It's because the game has gotten so much faster right

2421
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 1: now that you need that middle second to figure out

2422
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,760
Speaker 1: the balls on the ground, to feel out the balls

2423
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 1: in the hands, to figure out if it's to fumble. Uh,

2424
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 1: you have to take a real good look at it. No,

2425
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 1: you don't, and I don't agree. I understand fulls down

2426
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 1: the game, but we definitely want some fairness and some

2427
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, uh, equality in the game solves. It creates

2428
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 1: as many problems as it solves, I believe, do you know?

2429
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 1: All right? I will agree, and we're living in that

2430
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 1: world right now where this is what we talk about.

2431
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 1: That's what it creates, just many problems as it solves.

2432
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:52,720
Speaker 1: And it's been a while now, it's what a couple

2433
01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 1: of decades with replay and is it would anyone argue

2434
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: that if the games are better officiated now than they

2435
01:58:57,760 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 1: were pre replay, would you make that argument? I don't.

2436
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 1: They are. It's hard. It's hard to today, that's for sure. Yeah,

2437
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:07,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to today, but it's there's also been times

2438
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:09,160
Speaker 1: in the past where we've had days like this too

2439
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 1: and there was no um, there was no recourse. They

2440
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 1: couldn't go back and get it right. But by the

2441
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 1: same token, And here's the problem too, Murph, the bar

2442
01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 1: was different for fan and spectator and broadcaster and media

2443
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 1: it was, and the players and coaches, the bar was

2444
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 1: much different than it is now. They expect a higher

2445
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:30,400
Speaker 1: level of competency, they expect a higher level of accuracy,

2446
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 1: they expect a deeper level of accountability when you can

2447
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:42,880
Speaker 1: make some things that are completely wrong right, Uh, particularly

2448
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 1: on like you said, possession and control and spotting the

2449
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,600
Speaker 1: ball getting it right. Um, there's a lot of things

2450
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 1: that does fix. But when you get into this minutia

2451
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 1: of control and two feet down and making a call

2452
01:59:56,720 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 1: or correcting a call that was wrong. U. That's when

2453
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 1: you get into some problems. But on the surface and

2454
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 1: from the reason we got here is because the bar.

2455
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:09,840
Speaker 1: Reason it seems better back then, I think to you

2456
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:12,640
Speaker 1: is because the bar was so low to get it right.

2457
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 1: It didn't matter if it was right or wrong. You

2458
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 1: had to live with it and let's just lump it,

2459
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 1: let's just go. And nobody's willing to do that anymore.

2460
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:21,520
Speaker 1: That's one I think that's an issue that we got

2461
02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 1: to deal with. Either you're gonna be happy yourself willing

2462
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 1: to live with it. Mistakes are made. They're made by players,

2463
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 1: they are made by coaches, they're made by broadcasters, they're

2464
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,840
Speaker 1: made by officials, everybody. It's a human endeavor. There will

2465
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:36,840
Speaker 1: be mistakes. They will make a difference. Hey, back to

2466
02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll two weeks away from the trade deadline

2467
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 1: to the Bills make a move to improve themselves offensively

2468
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:44,320
Speaker 1: on Twitter. We got more than a thousand votes in

2469
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 1: so far. On Twitter, forty eight percent of you says yeah,

2470
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:49,120
Speaker 1: they should make a move. They should add a wide receiver.

2471
02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 1: Twenty six percent of you say yeah, they should make

2472
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:54,760
Speaker 1: a move, they should add an offensive lineman. Twenty six

2473
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 1: percent say stay the course. Interesting, that's about three quarters

2474
02:00:58,080 --> 02:00:59,800
Speaker 1: of you who thinks they should make a move. The

2475
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:02,760
Speaker 1: tweet sheet is in play here. The tweet sheet brought

2476
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:05,480
Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of

2477
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:07,720
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. What do you see? There's yeah from Tiffany.

2478
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:09,760
Speaker 1: She says, I think we're close to being real special

2479
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 1: this season. Why not go for it? And that an

2480
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 1: offensive weapon and more protection along the old line. I'm

2481
02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:17,160
Speaker 1: not sure if we could get Trent Williams and aj Green,

2482
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 1: if we could score twenty four points of games consistently,

2483
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 1: it would be real tough to beat us. And before

2484
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:26,680
Speaker 1: we move on to that, Tiffany, I think, in four words,

2485
02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 1: kind of encapsulated what the proponents of a trade believe.

2486
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 1: Why not go for it? There are reasons why not

2487
02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 1: to go for it, but I would listen to arguments

2488
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 1: for going for it. The reasons to be, you know,

2489
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:38,680
Speaker 1: the asset that you'd have to give up that might

2490
02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:41,920
Speaker 1: be valuable in the future draft picks. In particular, the

2491
02:01:41,960 --> 02:01:44,640
Speaker 1: reason might be the current chemistry and group that you

2492
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 1: have on the team that would be a reason why

2493
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 1: not go for it? But when you say why not

2494
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 1: go for it, that to me is the essence of

2495
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 1: why you would think about making a trade. And well,

2496
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:54,480
Speaker 1: the answer, the answer to why not go for it

2497
02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 1: is in or same tweet at the very end it

2498
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:57,560
Speaker 1: said it would be really tough to beat us. I

2499
02:01:57,600 --> 02:01:59,400
Speaker 1: got news for you. It's really tough to beat them

2500
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 1: right now. That's why you don't go for it. You

2501
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:04,880
Speaker 1: don't spend something that's going to make you drop back

2502
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 1: into the abyss where you were for seventeen years. You

2503
02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:10,680
Speaker 1: know at the last decade, you don't want to go

2504
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 1: back into that. You want to stay competitive every year.

2505
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:15,120
Speaker 1: They're tough to beat right now. They've got a chance

2506
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:18,760
Speaker 1: to beat every single team they play right now, and

2507
02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:21,920
Speaker 1: a really good chance to get into the playoffs and

2508
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 1: do some damage because they're really tough to beat right now,

2509
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:29,000
Speaker 1: and they're getting to me, this an offense that's going

2510
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:31,920
Speaker 1: to get better. Their defense has gotten better from where

2511
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 1: it was a year ago, and it continues to play

2512
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 1: extremely well. This is an offense that's got some improvement

2513
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:38,760
Speaker 1: to be made, no question, But a lot of it

2514
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 1: is just playing within the lines. Is to kind of

2515
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 1: keep not turning it over, making the egregious mistake complimenting

2516
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 1: a great defense. They're tough to beat right now, they

2517
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:52,480
Speaker 1: are going for it. Do you think we're yelling more

2518
02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:54,280
Speaker 1: on this show today? Who we are? Man? I don't

2519
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 1: know why something happened. I think Mike Perr got so

2520
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 1: fired up. If the officiating it is right, it is,

2521
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:03,040
Speaker 1: it takes us to a dark place. Jeremiah tweets this

2522
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 1: in in response to our question should the Bills make

2523
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:07,840
Speaker 1: a move to in the trade in the trade market

2524
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:11,240
Speaker 1: to improve offensively? Jeremiah says yes, ed both O line

2525
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:13,839
Speaker 1: and wide receiver, not because they are lacking in those areas,

2526
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 1: but because you can never have too much of either,

2527
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:18,200
Speaker 1: and Jack tweets this in I hope they do make

2528
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:21,120
Speaker 1: a trade. I'd be okay with acquiring a wide receiver

2529
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:24,400
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. A right tackle may be more valuable, as

2530
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:26,839
Speaker 1: Ford doesn't seem to have a hold at that position,

2531
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,400
Speaker 1: and in Seki is older and has dealt with injuries. Okay,

2532
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 1: those are the arguments. I don't. Yeah, And here's the thing,

2533
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:34,120
Speaker 1: and I don't have a problem getting guys bringing good

2534
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 1: players in who make you better. I get all that,

2535
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 1: but you can it all comes down to what does

2536
02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 1: it cost. Sure, if you can get them for the

2537
02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 1: right price. Okay, if you can upgrade and not give

2538
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:47,640
Speaker 1: up that which will make you better in the future.

2539
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:52,240
Speaker 1: Draft picks. Okay, you know you got a bunch of

2540
02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 1: guys on this squad right now, like Tie and Seki

2541
02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:58,560
Speaker 1: who are here on a one year deal. You know

2542
02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:00,960
Speaker 1: you can bring a guy in to help them or

2543
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 1: replace them, or keep you know, until they get healthy

2544
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:10,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, I get it, But yeah, the

2545
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:13,880
Speaker 1: price has to be right. Certainly, if you see something

2546
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna make you better right now, you have to

2547
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:20,520
Speaker 1: consider it. But the cost is to me the first consideration.

2548
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:22,560
Speaker 1: You're sitting here at four and one. You've built up

2549
02:04:22,600 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 1: something that seems to be really special. You got to

2550
02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 1: ask yourself about the long term ramifications financially, contractually, chemistry wise,

2551
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 1: production wise, all of that. Plus, if it's a player

2552
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:36,440
Speaker 1: like a wide receiver, it's gonna bring in an aj

2553
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:38,400
Speaker 1: Green or any of these guys or Hulio Jones or

2554
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:42,120
Speaker 1: whatever or player X, it's gonna take some time to

2555
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:45,360
Speaker 1: get them acclimated. Certainly, they can start to contribute immediately

2556
02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 1: with a small handful of small menu of plays and

2557
02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:52,400
Speaker 1: then it expands week by week, and with eleven weeks

2558
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:54,320
Speaker 1: to go in this regular season, you know you've got

2559
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 1: plenty of time to get the guy acclimated. But while

2560
02:04:57,240 --> 02:04:59,600
Speaker 1: he's in there and he's limited in his ability to contribute,

2561
02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:02,080
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have to cover that up. You know, you're

2562
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna have to get production from someplace else, because the

2563
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 1: guy you took out to put him in the game

2564
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:11,000
Speaker 1: had some production too. So yeah, I just if it's

2565
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:13,840
Speaker 1: the right price, Okay, I'll listen to anything, but man,

2566
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:15,880
Speaker 1: oh man not. I'm not making a deal just to

2567
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 1: make a deal. Here's a call from Frank and Saint Catherine's, Ontario. Hello, Frank,

2568
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 1: go ahead, Hey guys, I was going going good. Go ahead, Frank.

2569
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:28,680
Speaker 1: So you guys pretty much just took everything I was

2570
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:31,320
Speaker 1: gonna say. But it's gonna do music to my ears.

2571
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad that someone gets that you don't sell the

2572
02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:37,360
Speaker 1: farm for magic being. You know, like I look at

2573
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:39,840
Speaker 1: Alan and I love Josh Allen. I loved him, I

2574
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:42,560
Speaker 1: wanted up to pick him, and I really do talk

2575
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:45,800
Speaker 1: the process with him. But I really think that this

2576
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 1: year is all about getting him some playoff experience and

2577
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:50,880
Speaker 1: I think, you know, if we can go into the

2578
02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:54,000
Speaker 1: wildcard round, because that looks like where we're gonna end

2579
02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:56,040
Speaker 1: up that uh, you know, if he can go in

2580
02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:58,160
Speaker 1: there and win a game, and you know, who knows,

2581
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,120
Speaker 1: maybe we make a run at this thing. But I think,

2582
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta get John Brown going, and we

2583
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 1: gotta get copiasally involved a bit more, and you know,

2584
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 1: who knows what Singletary's gonna do when he comes back.

2585
02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 1: But I think this year is all about getting our

2586
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:14,840
Speaker 1: guys experience so that maybe maybe Duke William turns into

2587
02:06:14,840 --> 02:06:18,200
Speaker 1: a bigger red zone or like whatever. You know, it's

2588
02:06:18,200 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 1: just so that we've built for the future because I

2589
02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 1: definitely don't want another seventeen years before the playoffs. That

2590
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:29,440
Speaker 1: You're right, and that's a thing. And that's a great

2591
02:06:29,480 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 1: line he had too. You don't sell the farm for

2592
02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:35,280
Speaker 1: magic beans. Um, it's true, and that's kind of what

2593
02:06:35,320 --> 02:06:37,720
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Certainly, if you can get better, do it.

2594
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:40,840
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, draft picks are pretty valuable, and

2595
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 1: the guy who's getting for him may better be pretty special,

2596
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 1: and he better be pretty young, and he better be

2597
02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:48,360
Speaker 1: cheap too. W'reking a call here from Stan on Grand Island. Hello, Stan,

2598
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:51,720
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Thanks Murtha, thank you for you

2599
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:56,920
Speaker 1: and Steve taking my call. Sure, guys, listen about the officiating.

2600
02:06:56,960 --> 02:06:58,960
Speaker 1: I'd like to kind of think out of the box

2601
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 1: and get your opinion on something. How about issuing to

2602
02:07:03,080 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 1: the tackles and the guards on the offensive line an

2603
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 1: NFL mitten. Okay, just hear me out on this. The mitten, okay,

2604
02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:20,120
Speaker 1: would allow for movement. Each player would be fitted, each

2605
02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:23,520
Speaker 1: player would get it from the league game time and

2606
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 1: have to wear it throughout the game. At the same time,

2607
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:31,600
Speaker 1: you would liberalize the holding penalty by allowing the person

2608
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 1: with the mitten to grab on to where they can't

2609
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:38,440
Speaker 1: grab onto today. The only thing short of tackling or

2610
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, bringing down a player would be to allow

2611
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:45,840
Speaker 1: them greater movement. It would take more of the subjectivity

2612
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:49,840
Speaker 1: out of the call, and I think it might make

2613
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 1: for a fairer game if we're discussing discussing officiation. So

2614
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:57,120
Speaker 1: just one mitten per player is that it stand? There's

2615
02:07:57,440 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 1: you wear a mitten on both hands hands, okay, And

2616
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 1: this would only be for the tackles and the guards,

2617
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:07,320
Speaker 1: because the center has to have movement with his fingers

2618
02:08:07,320 --> 02:08:10,440
Speaker 1: and obviously, so do the wide receiver. They would be

2619
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:13,840
Speaker 1: held to the traditional standard of holding. But where the

2620
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:17,160
Speaker 1: real action is you would have guys with this mitten.

2621
02:08:17,480 --> 02:08:21,040
Speaker 1: They could do more. There would be less holding call penalties.

2622
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:24,120
Speaker 1: In my opinion. It might also force guys to go

2623
02:08:24,280 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 1: inside instead of going outside because they'd have greater leverage.

2624
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:34,120
Speaker 1: I'll hang up yeats and get it. You know, it's

2625
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 1: not ridiculous because recall it training camp, and they may

2626
02:08:37,560 --> 02:08:40,320
Speaker 1: still do it here at practice. The Bills defenders would

2627
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:44,280
Speaker 1: wear mittens to prevent them from holding the hats of players. Yeah,

2628
02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:46,920
Speaker 1: it's a training device, not an endgame device, but it's

2629
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:49,480
Speaker 1: not ridiculous. As funny as it is to say the

2630
02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:52,480
Speaker 1: word mitten, it's not ridiculous to think about this too.

2631
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 1: You want to keep it fair the team, the offense

2632
02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:57,160
Speaker 1: when they come off, they leave the same mittens on

2633
02:08:57,200 --> 02:09:00,360
Speaker 1: the field and the other team takes them. So well,

2634
02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:02,480
Speaker 1: if you're mittens, you can got guys on the sidelines.

2635
02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:05,520
Speaker 1: They can, they can deflate footballs, they can, they can

2636
02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:09,200
Speaker 1: fix their mittens. You know, think about it. You could

2637
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:12,560
Speaker 1: You could share the mittens each team could every team,

2638
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:17,040
Speaker 1: every team has four sets of mittens and they have

2639
02:09:17,080 --> 02:09:19,720
Speaker 1: to put them on the offensive, the guards and tackles

2640
02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 1: every play, and that when they leave, when they when

2641
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,040
Speaker 1: the series is over, they drop those mittens and they

2642
02:09:25,080 --> 02:09:26,880
Speaker 1: the officials collect them give them to the other team,

2643
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:31,840
Speaker 1: so they use the exact same mittens. That makes my

2644
02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:36,720
Speaker 1: head explode the ramifications of that. John and Lockboard, Hello, John, Welcome.

2645
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 1: Hey guys, how's it going? Pattern of collar. I just

2646
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:43,360
Speaker 1: wanted to give you guys my take on a trade.

2647
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't think we should trade it for anything unless

2648
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:48,680
Speaker 1: you can get a steal for nothing higher than a

2649
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:52,400
Speaker 1: third round pick, because being as clearly you know made

2650
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 1: it clear that you build the team through the draft.

2651
02:09:54,760 --> 02:09:57,160
Speaker 1: You know, That's why this seems like all has been

2652
02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: And I also feel like, you know, we don't want

2653
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 1: to take a big cap hit next year for a player.

2654
02:10:03,240 --> 02:10:04,920
Speaker 1: You know that we're gonna have to sign for three

2655
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:06,600
Speaker 1: more years and sink all that money and it's just

2656
02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:08,960
Speaker 1: one guy, when it seems like this year in the

2657
02:10:09,040 --> 02:10:11,880
Speaker 1: draft seems like I could be pretty deep for receivers.

2658
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:14,640
Speaker 1: And I also wanted to add I just went on

2659
02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 1: a cruise for a week and I came back from

2660
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:19,200
Speaker 1: Florida and I kid you not I counted at least

2661
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:22,320
Speaker 1: thirty plus bills people all throughout the ship, throughout the week,

2662
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:25,360
Speaker 1: wearing different bills at hire and coming back on Sunday.

2663
02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:28,920
Speaker 1: John Brown was actually on my flight coming back from Florida.

2664
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:30,880
Speaker 1: He went down to do a kids foundation where he

2665
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:33,800
Speaker 1: grew up for the youth, and on the way out

2666
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:35,880
Speaker 1: it was pretty awesome. I walked in to get the luggage,

2667
02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 1: took a picture, you know. I talked to him for

2668
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 1: a few minutes, and he really has bought into it,

2669
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:42,480
Speaker 1: and he feels like we really got something special thrilling here.

2670
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:44,000
Speaker 1: So I thought I just wanted to let you guys know,

2671
02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:45,920
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to say, I agree what you

2672
02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:47,480
Speaker 1: think that we should just kind of sit back and

2673
02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:50,000
Speaker 1: let it play out, okay, And I do. And I'll

2674
02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:51,360
Speaker 1: tell you this too. At the bottom of all is

2675
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:55,120
Speaker 1: I do trust Brandon Bean that he's not just gonna say, hey,

2676
02:10:55,120 --> 02:10:56,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna sit pretty, you know, we're just gonna sit

2677
02:10:57,040 --> 02:10:59,760
Speaker 1: here and do nothing. I still think they're on it

2678
02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:03,320
Speaker 1: and inquiring about guys they think could help, and making

2679
02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 1: sure that there's not a guy out there like whatever this,

2680
02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, like, for instance, if the Bills thought whatever

2681
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:14,080
Speaker 1: a guy could help them and to call the team

2682
02:11:14,080 --> 02:11:16,600
Speaker 1: and say what's it gonna take. You know, I think

2683
02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:18,720
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean does that. I think they're on the phone

2684
02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:22,520
Speaker 1: a lot with teams about trades, about things that are possible,

2685
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:25,200
Speaker 1: and they have I know that Brandon Bean and Sean

2686
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:28,120
Speaker 1: McDermot and the coaching staff talk all the time about needs,

2687
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:34,640
Speaker 1: about deficiencies, about skill sets, about production, about attitude. They

2688
02:11:34,720 --> 02:11:38,080
Speaker 1: evaluate the players and themselves all the time. So they're

2689
02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:42,080
Speaker 1: having conversations about where they could get better and how

2690
02:11:42,160 --> 02:11:43,800
Speaker 1: fast it would take, you know, like where can we

2691
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:46,360
Speaker 1: get better right now? And there would be some answers

2692
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:48,560
Speaker 1: for that now. Whether they can go out and make

2693
02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:50,720
Speaker 1: that happen, you know, you got to have a partner.

2694
02:11:51,080 --> 02:11:53,480
Speaker 1: So I don't know that it would happen, but I

2695
02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:57,360
Speaker 1: know that those conversations take place. I know those evaluations

2696
02:11:57,400 --> 02:12:00,200
Speaker 1: take place, and you know that phone calls are made

2697
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:02,800
Speaker 1: to say, hey, listen, we were really thinking about getting

2698
02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 1: a guy like this, and if the other team says,

2699
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:07,520
Speaker 1: well only if and you're not like it, and they say, okay,

2700
02:12:07,560 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to pass. But I know that those

2701
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, I have full faith and this regimes willingness

2702
02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:17,000
Speaker 1: to pick up the phone. Yep, I agree. Hey, the

2703
02:12:17,080 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 1: question issue the Bills make a trade to improve their offense.

2704
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:22,040
Speaker 1: We will recap that when we come back in the

2705
02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:24,160
Speaker 1: final segment. You know what does not need fixing, the

2706
02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:27,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo defense. These stats came out from our friends Great

2707
02:12:27,280 --> 02:12:30,360
Speaker 1: Cosell and the guys at ESPN NFL matchup. Three and

2708
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:33,280
Speaker 1: out defense right the symbol of an effective defense. Get

2709
02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:35,600
Speaker 1: the opponents off the field in three plays. Three and out.

2710
02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:38,480
Speaker 1: Bills are second in the league in percentage of drives

2711
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:42,080
Speaker 1: with no first downs or touchdowns allowed. Forty three percent

2712
02:12:42,080 --> 02:12:45,080
Speaker 1: of the Bills defensive series are three and out series.

2713
02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:47,080
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers lead the league forty eight percent.

2714
02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 1: Forty three percent of the time the Buffalo defense takes

2715
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:53,400
Speaker 1: the field there off in three plays. That is amazing.

2716
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Speaker 1: We're gonna break here. We're coming back with more. One

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Speaker 1: Bill slide presented by Kalaida Health from the Seneca Studio

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Speaker 1: in Orchard Park, Buffalo Bills Radio. I can train in

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Speaker 1: the next two weeks to improve offensively. Half of you

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Speaker 1: forty eight percent say yes, get a wide receiver. Twenty

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Speaker 1: six percent they had an offensive lineman in twenty seven percents.

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Speaker 1: A state of course, almost seventy five percent. Say make

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Speaker 1: a trade. I'm surprised by that. Steve Chris show coming

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Speaker 1: up tomorrow. The practice resume tomorrow. I'm excited about that. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're getting their back in gear. The bye week's over

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be clicking these games off weekend time.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. All Right. We'll be here tomorrow

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Speaker 1: at twelve noon. Make sure you're joined. US production assistance

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Speaker 1: today from George Blast, Steff Colton, Thomas honald Or, Kelly Rude,

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Speaker 1: JJ Turto, Kevin Gargers, James Robot our producer Jay Harrison

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Speaker 1: tomorrow with noon one Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health

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Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio on Buffalo Bills Radio