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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, Have a billion dollar idea.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis. I'm coming to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with heroes. Greg Rosenthal, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? Hey DNN, Yeah, Buddy west back

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. Gotta love it. I like that

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Speaker 1: money drop. I would say this podcast is the closest

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Speaker 1: I've come to having a money making idea. We've just

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Speaker 1: got to start making money off it somehow, you know,

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Speaker 1: And we're real Grammar Golden. That's as close as I've come,

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Speaker 1: you know. West Monday's are a hit. When um Debbie Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: my mom chimed in and said how nice it was

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Speaker 1: to hear Chris's voice, and how nice it is that

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Speaker 1: my mom is listening to uh three times a week

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Speaker 1: football podcast during the middle of the pandemic. Not bad.

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Speaker 1: Good job by Debbie studio audience. It's pretty great. Is

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Speaker 1: deb Rosenthal? Obviously she's a Greg Rosenthal fan. She loves

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Speaker 1: you all. That's that's why mom's. The moms are the best.

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Speaker 1: But is she a pro football fan? Is she for real?

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Speaker 1: She's a Patriots fan? I would say she's casual ish,

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Speaker 1: but she watches every game and she gets into it.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely the sport, uh that she is most into.

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Speaker 1: But as Lakisha sometimes points out, Uh, she my mom

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Speaker 1: likes listening more for like the personal stuff, you know what.

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Speaker 1: She she says, she maybe tunes out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: She takes it on her walks around, you know, around

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and she might tune out a little bit

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Speaker 1: when we're discussing Trey waynees is in latest injury. But

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Speaker 1: that's that's actually not true. She texted me about get

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Speaker 1: those in the weight room. That is one of Keisha's

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Speaker 1: pet theories that a lot of the women listen more

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Speaker 1: for personal stuff and inside jokes. But I do it

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Speaker 1: seems a little that maybe a little gender specific, and

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Speaker 1: we don't need we don't need to go there. That's

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Speaker 1: a theory that Lakisha can right two shows, He's already

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Speaker 1: get into trouble. This is the New World West, you

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Speaker 1: gotta watch. There are plenty of men who prefer uh,

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Speaker 1: the more personal areas of the podcast too. Absolutely. I

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Speaker 1: mean on on Twitter, there's some high high level um

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Speaker 1: women with takes that go deep. It's you know this

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Speaker 1: isn't like Cam Newton, right, Ricky look at Greg's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable at all time. Yeah, Cam Newton situation. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think you know, the women probably prefer more of

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Speaker 1: the football talk on this show than than you know,

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Speaker 1: your bs that you guys talk about, obligatory, obligatory, contrarian take,

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Speaker 1: thank you, You're welcome. But that is your quarterback, Greg,

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Speaker 1: So you could put your barrier face in your hands

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Speaker 1: and shake your head. But your quarterback said that quote

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Speaker 1: about you know the woman in that press count. You

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Speaker 1: gotta live with that. I mean, he's living with it. It

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Speaker 1: It was it was not his finest moment and he

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Speaker 1: knows that, and he's talked about that, and I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to move on. It doesn't feel like a career ender.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like this podcast is ready to move

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Speaker 1: on from it, but he is. Um. This is the

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of the Round the NFL podcast. You'll notice

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Speaker 1: there's no Mark Mark Sessler, There's no there's been no

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Speaker 1: stardonic chime in yet of any kind. Mark is moving.

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Speaker 1: As you know, this has been going on for a

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Speaker 1: while and there was some type of issue with WiFi

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Speaker 1: that hasn't been set up yet. So he plans to

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Speaker 1: be back on Wednesday. Yes, you have a take there, No,

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Speaker 1: I have no take. I when when Mark this happened

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Speaker 1: us know that that his landlord was basically booting him

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Speaker 1: he was in kind of a rotten mood that day,

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Speaker 1: and he was a little surprised that we all understood

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Speaker 1: whatever rotten mood you want to be for the next

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Speaker 1: couple of months, because that sounds awful to be going

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Speaker 1: through in the middle of a pandemic looking for a

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Speaker 1: new Oh yeah, now that he's actually moved out, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't decide to like take this guy to court

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Speaker 1: or whatever. If if you're out there, Sessler's old landlord, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're a piece of work. Mark. Mark defended you for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason because Mark's a nice guy. But you're dropping

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Speaker 1: this um notice in the middle of the pandemic because

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Speaker 1: you need some cash. It's straight up illegal. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I would have I would have liked to see Mark

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Speaker 1: take you to court, because we would have taken you

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Speaker 1: Greg's all very litigious. We uh, I will say, just

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Speaker 1: from the transaction wire standpoint, totally agree with everything west

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Speaker 1: just set. Everything Greg just said. But I did have

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Speaker 1: to place Mark on the non podcast injury list, so

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Speaker 1: there will be a fine. And it's it's more paperwork

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Speaker 1: than anything else. We all get it. But yes, that's

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Speaker 1: what it wasn't it. It wasn't a He's not missing

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Speaker 1: beast here. It seems like it all worked out though,

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Speaker 1: even though even if he's on this list, the place

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Speaker 1: looks great. The kids were really excited to get their

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Speaker 1: own bedroom. See, it's actually kind of inspired me that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: next off season. Oh wow. Alright, so something to look

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Speaker 1: forward to, Greg sharing things he'll be putting on his

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Speaker 1: street corner this time next year. Perhaps, all right, A

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Speaker 1: lot to get to. Yes, west is on the show,

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Speaker 1: so we thought it might be fun to uh talk

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Speaker 1: about potential possibilities teams that are peaking Mr Westling's interest

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Speaker 1: when it comes time to consider whether there will be

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Speaker 1: a team of a t L team of a t

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Speaker 1: will be a team this year because, as we've said before,

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Speaker 1: it's an organic process. The team has to just click

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Speaker 1: with the UH people on the show, most specifically West.

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Speaker 1: But it's always an open dialogue and an open study, Right, Chris,

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Speaker 1: I love this idea. We are free to generate discussion

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Speaker 1: about an idea which we are taking no responsibility for whatsoever,

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Speaker 1: And we're not guaranteeing there will be a team, but

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it. An it seems like that's

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Speaker 1: gonna like nicely uh you know, slide about seventeen midicine

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Speaker 1: accomplish that. So I'm looking forward to it. Generating discussion

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Speaker 1: that we have take no responsibility for is basically our

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Speaker 1: job description. That's what we did. They can't guarantee we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a sixteen game season anyway, so why should

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Speaker 1: we guarantee there's gonna be a team of a t M. Right.

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Speaker 1: We've been shooting from behind bulletproof glass for seven years

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Speaker 1: on this podcast us. We're not gonna stop now, touchet,

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Speaker 1: Let's do some news, are there? You know, I was thinking, guys,

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Speaker 1: it feels like a missed opportunity. Perhaps a missed opportunity.

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Speaker 1: We worked with Dion for the entire run of this show. Dean,

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Speaker 1: Dion told them podcasts for the future back in the day,

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Speaker 1: the news. And yes, teams are practicing now in some

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Speaker 1: That's why he's not playing for anyone in two thousand nineteen.

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Speaker 1: And now that's why he's got his work cut out

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Speaker 1: for him to make a Ravens team where they have

429
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Speaker 1: some really good young wide receivers for maybe the first

430
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Speaker 1: time in the history of the franchise. I've got some analysis,

431
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you you put it out on

432
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Speaker 1: the table. You can't come up with any I was,

433
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: how about this him working out is interesting just because

434
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Speaker 1: it's does it's not Antonio Brown working out. They have

435
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Speaker 1: a couple of veterans going. It's not Antonio Brown, it

436
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: is Dez Bryant. So it's like, this is what you

437
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: would do on like a first take type show. Okay,

438
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: maybe the story itself isn't that interesting, but you add

439
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Speaker 1: in some splashy other topic into the new you know,

440
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,479
Speaker 1: that's how that's how the game is done in smart

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Speaker 1: Very well played there about you, Greg. I. If we

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Speaker 1: had to make like our all a t N team

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Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen, President des would have been there. And

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of it's a bummer that his career, he

445
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: had sixteen touchdowns to two thousand and fourteen. He was

446
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Speaker 1: one of the best red zone guys of last decade.

447
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Speaker 1: Maybe at his peak, I wouldn't want anyone else inside

448
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: the you know, fifteen yard line when you needed a score. Uh.

449
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: But like we said, it's been a while since we

450
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: saw that guy. But good luck to him. It seems

451
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: especially cruel last year. That was an awesome Saints team.

452
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: I know they flamed out uh in the wild card

453
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Speaker 1: round of the playoffs, but it seemed like des was

454
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Speaker 1: really set up for a nice little fairy tale potentially

455
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: there and then the football gods pulled it away from him.

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Speaker 1: All right. Finally, in the news, Kim Jones, our own

457
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Speaker 1: Kim Jones and the NFL Network had an interesting nugget

458
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Speaker 1: here on Joe Judge, the Giants first year head coach. Uh.

459
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Speaker 1: They noticed during practice that the Giants players don't have

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Speaker 1: names on their practice jerseys. Why. Judge says, we should

461
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Speaker 1: know who we are by the way they carry themselves.

462
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: It's important to know the person across from you, by

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Speaker 1: the way they moved. Yes, folks, it's Joe Judge. In

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Speaker 1: the case of the nameless jerseys, I need Frank Signetti

465
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Speaker 1: back on the case. What we need this. We gotta

466
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Speaker 1: fill out this entire district attorney office, the police force,

467
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Speaker 1: the p I is the judges. But we got judge,

468
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Speaker 1: judge and you're all set there because this guy doesn't

469
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Speaker 1: take any bs. He controls that courtroom. It's really as

470
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Speaker 1: simple as his last name is judge that this story

471
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Speaker 1: entertains me. But it is also that he has he

472
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Speaker 1: makes these declarative statements, you should judge. We need to

473
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Speaker 1: be judging people by the way they move. Judge. What

474
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't is that do you want me

475
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Speaker 1: to judge us? How by how you're moving? Why is

476
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Speaker 1: it to every story associated with this guy? Is him

477
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Speaker 1: treating his players like their high school kids? Well, it goes,

478
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: it goes further than that. There was another part of

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Speaker 1: this story that he's making players do laps when they

480
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Speaker 1: make a mistake. That's pretty normal. But he's making the

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Speaker 1: coaches do laps when they make mistake too. Yes, I

482
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Speaker 1: love that. I can't think of a better franchise for

483
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Speaker 1: a coach to be acting this way. It's such a

484
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Speaker 1: giant thing to be doing. It's like six in that building.

485
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Speaker 1: Every day you take the lapse two Jason Garrett. There

486
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Speaker 1: are there are consequences for making mistakes, says Joe Judge

487
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Speaker 1: when asked about that the coaches taking the laps. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We are all accountable, all right, that's

489
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Speaker 1: what's happening in the news, all right. As we said, yes,

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Speaker 1: we don't know if there will be a Team of

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Speaker 1: a t N this year, but what we do know

492
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Speaker 1: is that if it's gonna happen, we need to get

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Speaker 1: buy in from Chris Wesley, because we know what happens

494
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Speaker 1: when we don't have Westling buy in on the team

495
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Speaker 1: of a t N, the whole thing crumbles. Mark almost

496
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Speaker 1: had a psychotic break during the Vikings five game lose

497
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Speaker 1: in streak when the Vikings are the team of a

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Speaker 1: t N a few years back that didn't have the

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Speaker 1: room buy in. So I would have if you showed

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Speaker 1: me the text that Mark was sending it like halftime

501
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: of some Monday night football game right now, I would

502
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Speaker 1: have PTSD. I mean, just just reading his text would

503
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Speaker 1: give me PTSD. As soon as the words were out

504
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Speaker 1: of his mouth to nominate the Vikings for Team of

505
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Speaker 1: a t L that year, he immediately regretted it and

506
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: hated himself and us, and because we did that put

507
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Speaker 1: responsibility on his shoulder as anyone nothing to do with it. No,

508
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: he struggled with it, and Uh, I'm glad he's not

509
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Speaker 1: here to relive it right now because that was tough.

510
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: So they're there are hard lessons to learn when the

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Speaker 1: team of a t N doesn't have buy in from

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling. So let's do this and kind of the

513
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Speaker 1: most the most pragmatic way possible here, Greg, Why if

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Speaker 1: there is to be a team of a t N,

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Speaker 1: let's like have West putting in the foundation, pour the concrete,

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Speaker 1: put in you know, the the iron, uh foundation of

517
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Speaker 1: it all. I don't know. I don't build things. Um, West,

518
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: why don't you share this? Yeah, bricks, bricks are good too.

519
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: I was talking about the iron steel beams. Chef pe

520
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: Corwell on the show to talk about steel beams. That

521
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: guy knows about steel beams. All right, let's go through

522
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Speaker 1: a few teams. Maybe Greg and I will chime in

523
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: and try to sell you on a team as a possibility. Uh,

524
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: you get us going here? Well, the way I approached

525
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: this exercise was to think back to two thousand thirteen,

526
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Speaker 1: that initial organic tea. The Carolina Panthers with Thomas Davis

527
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Speaker 1: and Luke keik Lee covering all kinds of ground on

528
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Speaker 1: that defense. What we did was fall in love with

529
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Speaker 1: one side of the ball, and that's usually how team

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Speaker 1: of a t L works at its best. Well, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's the two thousand fifteen Cardinals offense that we know

532
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Speaker 1: is gonna be much better than then most people think,

533
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Speaker 1: or the two thousand third team Panthers defense. So I'm

534
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Speaker 1: looking I kind of look at one side of the

535
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Speaker 1: ball here, and Buccaneers defense has really really intrigued because

536
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Speaker 1: everyone's talking about their offense. They might not be a

537
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Speaker 1: candidate just because they're too trendy overall. The Broncos are

538
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Speaker 1: another trendy team, which bothers me because they check most

539
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: of the boxes that I look for on a team,

540
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Speaker 1: and I like their young offense. I think they have

541
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Speaker 1: a lot of the trendy in your heart. You've been

542
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: on the Broncos bandwagon for a while, But are they trending?

543
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Speaker 1: Every time I walk by a TV, they keep talking,

544
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Speaker 1: they keep saying the trendy Denver Broncos. So those are

545
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Speaker 1: two teams I'm thinking about. I think the Buffalo Bills

546
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: are always on the periphery for me. Um, they don't

547
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Speaker 1: get a lot of attention, and I believe their their

548
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: defense is already one of the best. Their offense um

549
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: is not one of the best, but they've got some

550
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: room to grow. Mark. We know Mark loves uh, Mark

551
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: loves the Bills. I'll I'll just first give you, um,

552
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Speaker 1: you know, a round of a pause or just an

553
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Speaker 1: appreciation West that you that you're going along with this

554
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: entire segment, that now you used to fight so hard

555
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Speaker 1: against the notion that there was a team of WESTDL

556
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Speaker 1: that that wasn't even true, but now we're doing around

557
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Speaker 1: that premise. Well, I remember a few times I tried

558
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Speaker 1: to save you guys from your own choices, but it

559
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: didn't work out that way, so I just had to

560
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Speaker 1: settle into this rule. Bucks are interesting. Yes, they're trendy,

561
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Speaker 1: and they're they're gonna be on prime time and I

562
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: could definitely see that annoying um Mark, for instance, But

563
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Speaker 1: there's something fun about uh them for me obviously, not

564
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Speaker 1: just that Tom Brady and Gronker. They're just like it's

565
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: just like a quick, crazy experiment. Yes, we're not like

566
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Speaker 1: picking a diamond in the rough there, But I don't

567
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Speaker 1: think I'm alone saying I want to watch every Bucks game,

568
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Speaker 1: And that's kind of the heart of what this is.

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Speaker 1: This exercise is partly about I don't know if it's

570
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Speaker 1: gonna go well or not. And I don't think this

571
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Speaker 1: is necessarily about picking teams that are gonna be good,

572
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Speaker 1: but but they better be fun to watch. I mean

573
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Speaker 1: Godwin and O. J. Howard and I mean Gron being back.

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Speaker 1: I'm still not quite over that, and just the whole

575
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: thing in Arians, like, I don't know they I am

576
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: into them as kind of a secondary team. They're they're

577
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: ceiling their ceiling floor. Disparity is probably is as big

578
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: as anyone in the league or at least the NFC,

579
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: because we know all about how well the defense played

580
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, and Baldi talked about

581
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: it as well, if they just kept that up, you

582
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: got that side locked down, and then if this offense works,

583
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: watch out. I mean, this team could be fighting out

584
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: with the Saints to win the NFC South, but it

585
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: does feel like that. I don't know. Whenever you you

586
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: say things like, okay, the defense needs to be as

587
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: good as last year, and then Tom Brady needs to

588
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: be the Tom Brady of a couple of years ago,

589
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: and then Gronk needs to still have some juice, and

590
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: these wide receivers need to continue to be great in

591
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: the running back situation needs to figure out. Maybe too

592
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: much has to to inspire for this to be the

593
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Speaker 1: twelve and four, thirteen and three Juggernaut, But they're an

594
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: interesting team to follow because they have that that ceiling. Well,

595
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing working against them is that

596
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: every TV producer in the country has already decided they're

597
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Speaker 1: the number one team to monitor in two thousand twenties.

598
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Speaker 1: So they're gonna be fish. I mean for a good

599
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: reason on some level. I mean, the great, literally the

600
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: most accomplished player in the league's history is joining them

601
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: along with the with Gronk and and you said it

602
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Speaker 1: with the defense, And that is not why the producers

603
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Speaker 1: are into it. But I do think that's why I'm

604
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: especially looking forward to watching the Bucks because they'll be fine.

605
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: They'll be fun to watch. I think whichever side of

606
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: the balls on the field, give me a little Jpp

607
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: and Shack Barrett, like, give me a little Lavante David

608
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: and Devin White. Um. I mean these Wingfield Jr. Right,

609
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: these are entertaining players where I think and I don't know,

610
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Speaker 1: and I the one thing I like about the team

611
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: of West l are secondary teams in general is like, yeah,

612
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm invested, but not really like if it crashes and burns, like,

613
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: it's not gonna it's not gonna kill me, like a

614
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: killed Mark with that that Vikings team. I mean, either way,

615
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: it'll be kind of fun. Well you, especially Greg, I

616
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: know you try to check your fan allegiance at the door,

617
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: pretend to, but you're in a good situation because you're conflicted.

618
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: Just tell me if this makes any sense at all,

619
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Speaker 1: Just and be honest with me. Tom Brady is a

620
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: bit of a conflicting figure to you in because on

621
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Speaker 1: one hand, you're okay with what the Patriots did that

622
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: you were fine with the divorce happening away it was

623
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Speaker 1: and him getting a fresh start for the final chapter

624
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: of his career. But on the other hand, you won't

625
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Speaker 1: admit it. It would have been nice if if the

626
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: two sides made nice and Brady played his whole year

627
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Speaker 1: in New England. Uh So there's party. It's like, I

628
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: love Tom Brady, I love what he did for New

629
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Speaker 1: England and Martha's Vineyard and the West side of Massachusetts.

630
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Speaker 1: And so if he goes another couple of years where

631
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Speaker 1: he thrives, I'll be happy for him. Plus it's not

632
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: in the A f C, so it doesn't really hurt me. However,

633
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: if he flames out totally, it makes Bill Belichick look

634
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: even smarter, and that would be kind of cool that too,

635
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: because it would justify the Patriot's decision to cut bait.

636
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: It'd be fine. And I now that we're having it,

637
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: I'm I feel relieved. We haven't had this conversation since

638
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Speaker 1: March since like you were last with us, Chris, so

639
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: that's good. But I wouldn't be relieved, Like if he

640
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: crashes and burms, I will be more disappointed than anything. Um,

641
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: I really feel like I feel like I don't know

642
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: what Bill Belichick feels like or if he if he

643
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: has emotions, but I'm surprised more Patriots fans and maybe

644
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: they feel like me. Man. I feel a relief that

645
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: he's not there. That was like a weight on the

646
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: shoulders of the Patriots and it's nice. It's nice to

647
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: just sort of start over, and the fact that he's

648
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: somewhere else, like if you can't, if you can appreciate

649
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: the goat, you know, for what he did. Yeah, that's

650
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: on that's on you. You're right, it's it's like a

651
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: good situation either way. But I feel like it's so

652
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: nice to just be starting fresh, uh in New England.

653
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: And it's kind of nice to watch Tom Brady start

654
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: fresh too. Al Right, A win win for Greg and football.

655
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: It always seems to work out that way. West About

656
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: another team, I've got a dark horse and one of

657
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: us usually not Dan, falls for this team every year,

658
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: The Chargers. I was thinking about them. Their defense um

659
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: is loaded with talent. Derwin James coming back healthy now

660
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: um And just from the little bit of footage we

661
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: got from from Justin Herbert on the Hard Knocks, he

662
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: can spin it. This could be to use a damnage

663
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: check it isn't. He can spin it, baby. I'm surprised

664
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: to us, not not that making a larger point, but

665
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: guys throwing it into nets for switches on a football

666
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: field feels like something that wouldn't mean anything to you,

667
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: but you're saying it it did. It did mean something

668
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: to you. Oh, it's not scientific. It just sometimes I

669
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: think it's they want to be scouting me just feels like,

670
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: I can you know, just by the way he throws

671
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: the ball, you can tell he's got some arm talent there.

672
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: He's got a great balls. He's got great Yeah, he's

673
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: got great balls. They'd be fun. I know. I cannot

674
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: imagine Mark getting on on board with the Chargers thing

675
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, but I I like that one West.

676
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: I think they could be a fun Excuse me, I

677
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: think they could be a fun team to watch on paper,

678
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: just because they have so much like premier talent Keenan

679
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: Allen again, Joey Bose. I. I don't think about sides

680
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: of the ball, but I think about players that are

681
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: entertaining that I uh that I want to watch Bosa Derwin,

682
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: James Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen, Hunter, Henry. It's just like

683
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: you got players Casey Hayward, Desmond King. It's like a

684
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: fun little secondary uh. I would dig that. I wouldn't.

685
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: I wouldn't pass on your Broncos. Not to circle back though,

686
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: just because you think they're trendy, I think they they

687
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 1: could be. They've kind of got the old the other

688
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: the old krusty coach that that people like as my

689
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: son Walker chimes in there a little bit. I think

690
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: because they I've been associated, But then the last couple

691
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: of years, the Broncos and Culture be first and second

692
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: on my list. Here's the thing with Locke. I know

693
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about him at all. I think

694
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be fun to watch. Regardless. To me, he's

695
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: like a tools e. It's either kind of like the Bucks.

696
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: It's either gonna go wrong or it won't. But I

697
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: don't I think they'll be boring. I don't think they'll

698
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: be boring because because speaking of lock we we would

699
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: have said the same thing about Drew Locker once upon

700
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: a time. What an athlete, at least he'll be fun

701
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: to watch one way or Locker. Lock has already shown

702
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: significantly more than Jake Locker. That is not true. That

703
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: is not true, who was arguably going to be the

704
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: number one overall pick in the draft, was almost as

705
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: highly thought of as a baseball prospect as a football prospect,

706
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: an incredible athlete and had some had some flashes as

707
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: a rookie and second year where you thought this guy

708
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: might be a difference maker. I mean, I just if

709
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: a guy can't cut it, he's not gonna be entertaining

710
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: no matter how I think the I I guess I'm

711
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: I have a low baseline where I think, I think

712
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: he has a good chance to uh be like a

713
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: frustrating starter at worst, like a you know, a Winstead

714
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: or a Cutler or something like that. I think there's

715
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: a you got you find those guys a lot more entertaining.

716
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: But I'm saying that's that's you know, fifty times better

717
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: than a than a Jake Locker. And to your point

718
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: about the young guys there, Philip Linn, you know, Jerry

719
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: Judy looks like he could be one of the most

720
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: fun rookies to watch, and uh, you've got Melvin Gordon

721
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: added to a back up, Philip Lindsay is a ton

722
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: of fun to watch. Courtland Sutton's a ball and no

723
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: fans of ball er. It's like, these guys are are

724
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: guys you want to see. I've said everything I need

725
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: to say about Drew lock and good luck to him.

726
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: We'll see how he plays when he gets a full

727
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: sample size. I'm looking forward to seeing it a team

728
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: on the Okay, all right, so I gotta try to

729
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: sell you now, right, tough sell in the West sometimes.

730
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do my best. I've got to be invested.

731
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: This is and I all I ask store, and I

732
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: know you're gonna give it to me. Is um unvarnished honesty,

733
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, all right, see if I can do that.

734
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm trying to think because I know what

735
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: you like, Wes, Like I know, for instance, you, Yeah,

736
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: you're fetishes on a Sunday night after um a long

737
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: day of work, and you go and you you start

738
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: tape dogging, and you go, you open up that game pass.

739
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: You want something, you want to go to, a game

740
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: that excites you, one that keeps you from falling asleep

741
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: with your glass of wine. And so I I got

742
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: one here for you in an offensive centerpiece for this

743
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: team that's gonna make you run to game pass every

744
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: Sunday night. I mean, this guy is generationally talented, a beautiful,

745
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: beautiful athlete who is just entering his prime. I'll pair

746
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: that guy with a very intriguing young quarterback, a kid

747
00:39:54,120 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: with iron will in the pocket, multifaceted abilities. Uh, you

748
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: love the sport, West like you have a love affair

749
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: with football, and you've read every football book that matters.

750
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: So you understand the importance of history. Well, here is

751
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: one of the NFL's Tiffany franchises, one of the signature franchises.

752
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: You have a general manager who is an intriguing personality

753
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: who has had some missteps, but you know what, he

754
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: owned up to him earlier this year. He said that

755
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: he made some miscalculations about how to steer the franchises.

756
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: But now he's a man in search of redemption. And

757
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: who amongst us should turn away from someone that admits

758
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: that they were wrong and wants to do well. And finally,

759
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: a head coach that graduated Magna Come Loud from Belichick

760
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: University and won't say his player's name Magna Come Loud Loud,

761
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: A Joe Judge baby the New York Giants eli's Gone

762
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: New Era, flawed team, but potentially a fun team to

763
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: get behind is they try to enter the next wave.

764
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: Got several things working against him, not least of which

765
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: is an NFL head coach treating his players like children.

766
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: That that would be problem number one for me. He's

767
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: a leader, he's a father figure, he's a judge, like

768
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: this is a ninety boys town movie or something. Alright,

769
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: what else? What else? What I said doesn't make sense. No, no,

770
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: you sold it. Well, who's our who's catching our eye?

771
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: On defense? There? I can't really get behind anything with

772
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: that defense. It seems like a train wreck and you

773
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: just lost. You're promising a second year, first round pick

774
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: safety to a robbery charge. So I don't know, man,

775
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm counting on you to figure out a silver lining

776
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: with the defense. I'm more speaking to the offense and

777
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: the fresh start in the ELI free world. I do

778
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: believe their offense could be better than than most people imagine.

779
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: And even a guy like Evan Engraham, who's supremely talented,

780
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: what kind of year could he be our next one

781
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: thousand yard tight end? I mean, all of that health,

782
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: all that made sense, and I'd love the attempt that

783
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: you're going for, Like the hardest thing possible is to

784
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: get the rest on Yeah, you trying to get him

785
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: on board? Um with the Giants because I'm with you

786
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones could be fun, but they're big, stinky. Uh.

787
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: You know. Part of the equation that I don't like

788
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: is Jason Yeah offense. I knew this Jason Garrett assassination

789
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: would come up. I mean, I'm willing, I'm willing to

790
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: talk about someone who needs, um, you know, a new narrative,

791
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: second chance and a new narrative and and to change

792
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: maybe he can change it, because you know what, I

793
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: wouldn't when I was writing about Garrett a little bit

794
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: this offseason and Daniel Jones, who who I am and

795
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: really intrigued to watch. So if you have a fun quarterback,

796
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 1: that can make you fun. Um. You know what, those

797
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: those first years that Garrett was running the plays in Dallas,

798
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: like I was looking for some stats that maybe I

799
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: would like, kind of bury that they were boring something.

800
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: You know what, they were pretty good. They were a

801
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: past first, pretty good offense when Garrett was actually right

802
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: in place problems, it was like eleven years ago. It's

803
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: just so long ago. Um, the NFL is so different.

804
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see. But maybe maybe Garrett could

805
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: be the guy. When you were going through that, I

806
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: was wrong about which team it was until the very end.

807
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about the Cardinals. I thought

808
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins was the generational talent, that Steve Kim was

809
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: the GM trying to get past a big mistake, and

810
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: that Kyler murder. Exciting young quarterback DeAndre Hopkins is an excellent,

811
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: excellent wide receiver. I wouldn't call him a generational town

812
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: Barkley is a generational talent, and even look at his

813
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: numbers last year, he played on one leg without the

814
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: worst injuries, a high ankle sprain, and still had like

815
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: fifteen total yards. Imagine what would happen if the Giants

816
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: actually succeeded in building a more competent offense around that

817
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: guy and then he stayed healthy. I think he could

818
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: be one of the greats. Ever, I think that DeAndre

819
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: is going to the Hall of Fame, so you know,

820
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: we're talking levels of greatness. I really he is gonna

821
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: end up. Nobody would say he's more like a generational

822
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: talent more than Julio Jones or something like that. It's

823
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: fair maybe a step below that, but I think sae

824
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: Quon is exactly that. When you look at the running backs,

825
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: like maybe the most talented running back to come into

826
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: the league since Adrian Peterson, I would put him in

827
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: that conversation at he's like twenty four years old. And

828
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: this is where a team of atl is supposed to

829
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: come from. It's supposed to be a little bit of

830
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: a dark horse, and surprise something nobody saw coming. So

831
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: kudos to you for selling the Giants. Maybe you watch

832
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: him and and you change it's not gonna happen, But

833
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna keep an open mind. Two teams

834
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: come to my mind, but I'm gonna start with with

835
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: the one that just feels like the layup and maybe

836
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: that's why West didn't put him on his list, and

837
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: which makes you a little concerned, because this is the

838
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: team that I think I've got in my heart as

839
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: kind of a secondary team that I'm all about, and

840
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: that's the Indianapolis Colts, And I know people are gonna

841
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: be thinking that they're that they're gonna be good this

842
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: year because they make sense. I like a well constructed team.

843
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: I like teams without a big time weakness. Chris Ballard

844
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: put this team together. Their offensive line is as stable

845
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: as any and as good as any team in the league.

846
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: And when you have good offensive line play, they they

847
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: haven't had a single guy changed spots in three years,

848
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: which is almost unprecedented. Mrs start, So you hope you

849
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: keep that luck uh going. But when you have a

850
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: good offensive line, you end up having good talent shows

851
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: showing up on offense and adding Philip Rivers to this mix,

852
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: to me is just a delightful narrative, but also on field,

853
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: uh you know, relevant revelation for them that they're gonna

854
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: be fun to watch because Rivers even last year, to me,

855
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: it was fun to watch. He's gonna he's gonna attempt

856
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: the throws. T Y Hilton is there always fun to watch.

857
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor added to Marlon Mack that they should be

858
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: good on offense and the kind of the story book

859
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: of it, all of Rivers going for it and having

860
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: a legitimate offensive line and having a legitimate team for

861
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: first time in a while, with a pretty fun looking

862
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: defense too with Darius Leonard, to me, is irresistible. I'm

863
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: just gonna be rooting for this team. I think they

864
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: check as many boxes as any team for this exercise.

865
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: There are there's one huge one that they miss on

866
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: and there's nothing really they can do about at this point.

867
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: They play in a dome, so I mean, good luck

868
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, just lets some natural light in

869
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: once the dome during a pandemic, it's not as safe

870
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: as the outdoor stadiums. Another downside for the dome. In

871
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: this household, we like mother nature, so we're gonna root

872
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: for that um and then the other thing. I mean, Greg,

873
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: I've just realized over the years, our tastes and quarterbacks

874
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: are just way different. And Philip Rivers is one thing

875
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: I hold against the Colts right now. If he plays

876
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: anything like he played last year, that's gonna be a

877
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: hard team to watch. He was hard to watch last year.

878
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was fun at all. I thought

879
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: he was a boring quarterback and a bad quarterback. So

880
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to play a lot better. Yeah, he

881
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: had the worst tackle combination in the in football, and

882
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: I think a quarterback like that, he's only got to

883
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: be as good as his protection, and so he needs it.

884
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: But it looks like he's kind of found the perfect team.

885
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you got can you just throw it twenty

886
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: yards down field on a lollipop and expect your receiver

887
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: to run under it every time? And that's your offense.

888
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna count on a lot of timing, which will

889
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: be interesting with a whole new set of receivers. They're

890
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: hoping rookie Michael Pittman is a big part of this group,

891
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: and they haven't had the time at that timing, so

892
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: so it's definitely it's not gonna be. But I'm fascinated

893
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: to see them because I think they could be a

894
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: legit contender. Um, if he plays well, I agree, that's

895
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: a big if. Another one I do before we go,

896
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean I have I should, someone should say it, right,

897
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean the most obvious, the most obvious one on

898
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: the list is the is then the city which you

899
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: got the name on right behind you, Cincinnati, Chris Wesseling.

900
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: It's time to come yeah and take a trip over

901
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: to the Bengal situary. You were early on the train

902
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: of coming home in terms of shaving your head when

903
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't growing in. How about coming home and uh

904
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: being a real Westling and embracing your brothers and embracing

905
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: your family, embracing your roots. Uh, during this time of

906
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: of international upheaval. What's important? And I understand this because

907
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: it's not just about football, and you're not just looking

908
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: at the rosters. There's more to it. There's layers to this.

909
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: The man has a dossier eight inches thick for all

910
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: the reasons why he divorced the Bengals as his favorite

911
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: team decades ago. But maybe, just maybe, in this time West,

912
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: this uncertain time Um in your in your latest fight

913
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: with the Big Sea on our quest for uh double obliteration,

914
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: Maybe the time to hit the old reset button on

915
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: the Bungles. Welcome to the Sanctuary, DoD The Bengals feel

916
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: like they deserve that's always been three decades. They don't

917
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: feel like they deserve to win the trust. They don't

918
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: trust that they're good enough. They don't trust that they've

919
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: learned how not to lose. They don't trust anything in

920
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: that building. And they really not sure if they can

921
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: win a playoff game. I don't know if they don't try,

922
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: if they don't believe in themselves, can I believe in

923
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: I gotta admit the whole trade waynes Um complaining that

924
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: they wouldn't give him his money until he showed up

925
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: for camp and that he wouldn't be able to work

926
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: out as much because of that, and then get injured

927
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: right away at that his agent warned them might happen.

928
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: That feels like the same old Bungles kind of storyline.

929
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: But you know what you you like. In terms of

930
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: picking the team of West l is just teams that

931
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: are fun to watch, and uh, maybe maybe we're not

932
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: gonna have a preseason but maybe week one, Week two,

933
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: you'll see Joe Mixon out there. To me, is as

934
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: fun to watch as any receiver. And you'll see Green

935
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: and Higgins and Autumn Tate and Tyler Boyd and Ross

936
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: and Geoe Bernard and Joey Burrow. Who might be the

937
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: answer the guy that this city has been looking for,

938
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: who is awfully fun to watch, and that this team

939
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: maybe they're not gonna go to the playoffs or win

940
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: eight games, but you can be fun to watch and

941
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: win six or seven games. And I think this team

942
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: could be that they're they're fun to watch. Scale seems

943
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: like it goes from from top five to bottom five.

944
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: And I noticed you didn't mention that offensive line, which

945
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: has held him back for years. I mean, we it's

946
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: hard to take off the offensive line anyway. You're not

947
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: gonna get any John Ross. If you can't block up front,

948
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: you're not You know, Joe Mixon spent half of last

949
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: year getting like thirty yards a game because he had

950
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: nowhere to go. So these are the teams and west

951
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: you have. If you have another one, police chime in.

952
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: But this is the team. These are the teams that

953
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: have not been nominated. It's not that official. This is

954
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: just these are just talks. We're just having a conversation. Bucks, Broncos.

955
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: Did you say bills? I did, I didn't mention the

956
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: bill bills vgi uh. That was a DAN nomination. Greg

957
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 1: nominated the Colts and the Bengals by my chargers by

958
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: my count, that is one, two, three, four or five

959
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: six seven options. And that leaves all the divisions accounted

960
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: for aside from the NFC North, the a f C South,

961
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 1: and the NFC West. Any teams from that those three

962
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: divisions west that maybe get some consideration, which one NFC West, UH,

963
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: NFC West, NFC southc North. We got the South, good

964
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: good good good. So NFC North, NFC West, NFC West

965
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: is out. No, no, none of those teams are doing it.

966
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: They all they're all just qualified for one reason or another.

967
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: Um the NFC North, the Packers are two. I mean,

968
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: there's too much America's team. So you can't have out

969
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: those Lions. No, no, no, this is not in on.

970
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: The Lions are kind of frisky this like I I

971
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: agree that their offense could be kind of fun to watch,

972
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: but no, they're they defined mediocrity until they prove otherwise.

973
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: I do kind of like the Bears. But how can

974
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: I support a team that said we've got a chance

975
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: at Cam Newton, but instead we're gonna bring in Nick Fools.

976
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to encourage other teams to

977
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: do stuff like that. One another player on that two

978
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen Panthers team, you said you were all

979
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: about one side of the ball. I mean I remember

980
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: watching uh young Cam Newton and being pretty entertained by

981
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: that too. So I'm just saying Cam Newton's out there,

982
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: he's playing on a new team again. The Patriots aren't

983
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: forgiven for their Antonio Brownson. The days of carrying the

984
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: water are over. They're gone. All right, anything else was

985
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: before we it was a topic for now. You know what,

986
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: anyone else intrigued by the Redskins defense, We're not We

987
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: can't ever say that again. Well they're gone. That's not

988
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: the team. But what about when you talk about like

989
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: thee like, yeah, the Super Bowl champion? Could you could

990
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: avoid it if you want? But yeah, that's different, uh West,

991
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: It's it's allowable if you refer to if you if

992
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: that's how you want to go, well, I think eight

993
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: t N we could give you that wiggle room pre

994
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: to if you want. It feels like if it's an

995
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: honest mistake, people should just let it ride. But you know,

996
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: if we want to play hall monitor all year, that

997
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: we can do that too. Strict punishments West all right,

998
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: they could be kind of fun, but that is similar

999
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: to your Cincinnati organization troubles. Uh, I'm not I'm not

1000
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: into Let's see something more positive where I really we did.

1001
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: Just on on Monday we saw something positive. The first

1002
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: black um NFL team president was hired by the Washington Redskins.

1003
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: Was his name Jason Right? Yeah, former player. I remember

1004
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: him vaguely as a kind of a journeyman guy who

1005
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: was on the Cardinals as like a third down back.

1006
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, this wasn't that long ago. Um and he

1007
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: received effusive praise from around the league on Monday. He Uh.

1008
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: He also is inheriting a role which normally has a

1009
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 1: lot more power than most team presidents, and team president

1010
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: is a very significant role, to be clear. I mean

1011
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: that's the guy running the business. But also in in Washington,

1012
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: it also tends to have some a little more say

1013
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: over large swatha of the organization, uh, including the football side.

1014
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: So we'll see if that's the case, um with Jason, Right,

1015
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: But like I mean, you think about Bruce Allen. No

1016
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: one was more powerful as a as a team president there,

1017
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: and he wasn't the only one in in the Dan

1018
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: Snyder tenure. Alright, so the who I always said, the

1019
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: Washington All right, let's let's kind of let's bookmark this

1020
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: and maybe revisit then maybe once the season begins, maybe

1021
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks in. I don't know. It's all

1022
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: it's a fact finding mission more than anything else. All right, good,

1023
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: all right, Well everything is kind of day by day,

1024
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: week week at this point, so we can't really promise.

1025
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing in life should be presumed. I guess we

1026
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: gotta see what happens with the testing. But I do

1027
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: feel like right now, at this very moment, there's only

1028
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: fifteen players on the COVID nineteen lists, and the players

1029
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: and the teams are practicing in full pads, and now

1030
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: we've got to see what the impact of that is

1031
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: in the next week or two. But and we're three

1032
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: weeks away for the season and them really practicing it

1033
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: is kind of the moment I was like, Okay, well

1034
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: this is happening. This is we're we're almost there. Uh

1035
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: we we gotta see what happens in terms of the

1036
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: test results, but at least right now that you know,

1037
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: there's not many people on that list. Something very interesting

1038
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: happened in baseball over the weekend. Mike Clevinger and Dan

1039
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: pleazach to quality starting pitchers for the Cleveland Indians UM,

1040
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: a team that is in contention in the American League.

1041
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: They went out with friends dinner and socializing up and

1042
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: broke curfew and then lied about it, and one of

1043
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: the players actually traveled on the team plane without owning

1044
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: up to it, and then that led to a bit

1045
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: of a locker room um showdown and those two players

1046
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: being optioned to the the team's minor league facility essentially

1047
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: or their training camp whatever they're calling it this year.

1048
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see in football because again this

1049
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: will be something to watch. But this summer and then

1050
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: when the season starts, can players be disciplined and if

1051
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: they are not, will there be similar hell to pay

1052
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: internally for the team being put in jeopardy both health

1053
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: wise and season wise. I imagine there will be. This

1054
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: is a subplot that will happen in the NFL. Just

1055
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: happened in baseball. First, more players involved in the NFL

1056
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: because the rosters are so big, and generally younger players too,

1057
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: and less of less of a bubble situation really, because

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Speaker 1: even though the the MLB teams are not in their

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Speaker 1: travel I mean, when they're in those hotels, that's that's

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Speaker 1: a bubble situation. Whereas players here you know from almost

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Speaker 1: every day of the season, they're gonna be at home

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So it will be interesting, but so far,

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Speaker 1: so good. To your point, Greig, it feels like we're

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Speaker 1: on a good path right now, and hopefully it stays

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Speaker 1: that way as training camp rolls on. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday with another show and a reminder our NFL

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Speaker 1: Network program I'm returned on Saturday, so make sure you

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Speaker 1: set your DVR for the Around the NFL Show on

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Speaker 1: NFL Network, and you also could see that digitally on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com, and I believe it's on YouTube if

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Speaker 1: it's not being put up on on YouTube by our people,

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Speaker 1: I believe if you check out the Around the NFL subreddit,

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Speaker 1: there's a way to see the show if you don't

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Speaker 1: have access to NFL Network, So just look into that

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Speaker 1: if you want, and um that's it West, great to

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Speaker 1: see again, buddy. All right, that was a good one

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Speaker 1: this week. What's that? This is a treatment? Is this

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Speaker 1: a treatment week tomorrow? I've actually got doctor's appointment today

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Speaker 1: and then chemo tomorrow, so treatment every tuesday. All right. Well,

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Speaker 1: good luck with that, buddy, and I hope you're feeling

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Speaker 1: okay after it, and uh love you buddy, Thank you

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Speaker 1: good let's uh, let's sign off. This is Dan Hass.

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Speaker 1: The old Zeus are signing up for email man. Mm hmmm,

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Speaker 1: he said, good Joe, loved but not love you back

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Speaker 1: mail man. Get into that next time. Still want