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Speaker 1: So indeed, we do lots of interesting things that are

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Speaker 3: First of all, we have more.

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Speaker 1: Amazing results from our exclusive focus group of New Hampshire

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Speaker 4: My lifeless governor and as vice president. And to be

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Speaker 5: Of the United States. It is in the hands of

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Speaker 8: You're taking away a lot of choices for people, and

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Speaker 2: Very difficult, very difficult. I did note though, that a

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Speaker 1: Even within the Republican base, you don't have anywhere close

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Speaker 2: How'd you feel about the argument she's made that anyone

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Speaker 7: She's not wrong. We are going to run out of

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Speaker 14: To mean, it's just a scare tactic. They've been talking

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Speaker 10: And for her to be.

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Speaker 10: The problem is what using social Security? And you've got

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Speaker 9: It can't continue how it is, or it won't probably

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Speaker 11: Kind of struggling like as if I maybe I don't

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Speaker 10: We've had neighbors who've gotten on Social Security and they

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Speaker 10: they still don't have to go back to work. They

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Speaker 8: I don't know about increasing it from my generation, like

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Speaker 2: I love that lady who's like, I think we have

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Speaker 1: But I mean, it's interesting to see, first of all,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It's also interesting that one man, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's talking about social Security, was talking about but he

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Speaker 2: He's talking about elderly Social Security payments. And you're right, Look,

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Speaker 1: Yes indeed, And you remember when just not that long ago,

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Speaker 1: And you know, once again Trump has really staked out

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Speaker 2: Very true. But anyway, look, I think the fun part

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Speaker 2: like that one man that was it's like this one gentleman,

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to Jail Partners for working with us on this.

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Speaker 1: We're excited to do more going forward because I think

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's talk about President Biden. There's a lot going

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Speaker 15: Everybody we talked to every political discussion, all it talks

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Speaker 15: I mean, he's not gonna He's not really going to

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Speaker 1: the reason why there's this ground swell of elite panic

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Speaker 1: about something that has been manifestly obvious to.

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Speaker 3: All of us for quite a while.

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Speaker 1: Now is because it's kind of the last possible moment

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Speaker 1: when you could even imagine pushing Joe out and Kamala

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Speaker 1: out and getting some different ticket in Now, I think

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Speaker 1: it's a fantasy. I think that it's a lot of

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Speaker 1: like Donor and other Democratic politician wish casting. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Joe Biden is going anywhere. I think he has

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Speaker 1: genuinely committed himself to the path, and without something outside

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Speaker 1: of his control, some health event or whatever, I think

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Speaker 1: that we are very likely looking at the Biden Trump

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Speaker 1: rematch that almost literally no one wants. But that's what

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Speaker 1: I read into the timing of this is there's we've

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Speaker 1: had poll after poll after poll that has Biden and

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Speaker 1: Trump basically tied. And it was one thing in the

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Speaker 1: beginning when it's like, oh, maybe this is an outlier,

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Speaker 1: maybe this is just a strange time period, maybe things

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Speaker 1: will change once all the indictments come out, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: And even after.

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Speaker 1: All of that, you're getting all of these polls that

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Speaker 1: say three quarters of the country don't want them to run.

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Speaker 1: They think he's too old, you're getting it's tied with

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Speaker 1: Trump or some poles saying, hey, Trump has a little

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Speaker 1: bit of an edge on this guy. And remember both

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen and again in twenty twenty, even though

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Speaker 1: you know, both races ended up being really close, one

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Speaker 1: Trump gets the win and one the Democrats get the win.

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Speaker 1: He never had a lead in the polls or was

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Speaker 1: even tied in the polls at this point in the race.

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Speaker 3: So for them to be looking at these.

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Speaker 1: Polls where you know, in their mind and we'll get

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Speaker 1: to this in a minute, the reality versus their mind.

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Speaker 1: But in their mind, they're like, oh, the economy is

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Speaker 1: getting better, and we had all these accomplishments and we're

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Speaker 1: still we're still tied with Trump in the polls. So

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Speaker 1: there is a full blown elite freakout panic happening such

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Speaker 1: that even they are allowing in a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a glimpse of reality of what the rest of us

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Speaker 1: have been seeing for like years now.

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Speaker 2: Very obvious. And you know, another big moment. CNN even

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Speaker 2: feels like they got to ask the White House about

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Speaker 2: this whenever they have a White House spokesperson on let's

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Speaker 2: take a lesson.

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Speaker 16: A lot of people in Washington right now. And I

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Speaker 16: know this is probably going to drive your team crazy

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Speaker 16: that I ask it this way, but I think it.

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Speaker 2: Matters because it's accurate.

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Speaker 16: Because the columnist who wrote a piece today asking for

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Speaker 16: the President not to seek re election, David Ignatius, is

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Speaker 16: well respected within the building behind you. What's your response

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Speaker 16: to that idea. It's not just about the president, it's

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Speaker 16: also about the vice president, who you work for in

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Speaker 16: the twenty twenty campaign.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, I'm governed by the hatcheck and I want

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Speaker 17: to be really careful. But obviously, the president has announced

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Speaker 17: he's running for reelection, and the President is going to

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Speaker 17: make his case to the American people. And I'll refer

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Speaker 17: you to the campaign for any sort of campaign questions.

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Speaker 17: But this president has a lot to be proud of

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Speaker 17: and a lot to run on. He's delivered some of

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Speaker 17: the most consequential achievements and economic progress in generations with

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Speaker 17: the Inflation Reduction Act, the Infrastructure Bill, the Chips Bill,

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Speaker 17: which is opening new factories and creating new manufacturing jobs

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Speaker 17: around the country. That's what he's going to be talking about.

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Speaker 2: Look, clearly it makes him uncomfortable, but I mean, when

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Speaker 2: you see CNN are asking the question when you see

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Speaker 2: Joe Scarborough admit the obvious part out loud, the Ignacious column,

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Speaker 2: which for me is the most important piece of all this.

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Speaker 2: Like once, you cannot overstate how impactful Ignacious is in

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Speaker 2: terms of like Washington Group think. He literally is like

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Speaker 2: a spokesperson for the Blob, and the rest of his

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Speaker 2: columns are just all about how we should give Ukraine

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Speaker 2: everything up to like a nuclear bomb, and so that

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Speaker 2: they can win the war. When that type of person

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Speaker 2: decides to shift against Biden, you know that this is

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Speaker 2: not only real, it is like being whispered and talked

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Speaker 2: about everywhere, and if they can get rid of him,

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Speaker 2: they will, But like you said, how is it possible

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Speaker 2: this late in the game. Also, you'd have to go

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Speaker 2: with Kamala, which we're about to talk about. But in

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Speaker 2: the dynamic that you created, he's basically set himself up.

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Speaker 2: So it's like a prisoner's dilemma where the only real

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Speaker 2: choice is to go along with this man. Maybe Crystal,

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Speaker 2: they're trying to hedge their bets so that in the

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Speaker 2: future they can say I told you so if he

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Speaker 2: does lose, just because they know earlier. Is like you said,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, you just don't know the impetus.

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Speaker 1: Usually that type of like spin and throwing various people

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Speaker 1: under the bus.

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Speaker 3: That's usually towards the end of the campaign the writing start.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly when the writing's starting to be on the

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Speaker 1: wall and the fall right before the elector like I

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Speaker 1: told it, I knew this was a problem and they

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Speaker 1: did this and that wrong, or this advisor was you know,

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Speaker 1: the wrong whatever. Usually that comes a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there is real concern among the

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Speaker 1: donor set. Obviously, they're looking at the polls. They're you know,

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Speaker 1: really freaked out. It reminds me a little bit of

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Speaker 1: some of the dynamics in twenty twenty when there was

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Speaker 1: all this handwringing about Biden, when Obama was sort of

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Speaker 1: like tacitly backing a.

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Speaker 3: Variety of their candidates.

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Speaker 1: You know, a bunch of previous Obama people were going

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Speaker 1: to Bato Rourke, they were you know, Pete Curious whatever.

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Speaker 1: Like there was a whole searching for I can't just

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Speaker 1: be the form of vice Frialy, like there's got to

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Speaker 1: be somebody else. But that in the end, there was

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Speaker 1: a realization of like if we're going to beat Bernie.

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Speaker 1: This is the only guy that's really credible, the only

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Speaker 1: guy left standing.

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Speaker 3: And then the other problem.

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Speaker 1: Is I kind of I think that they still believe

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Speaker 1: that they would have to go with Kamala if Biden

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Speaker 1: was to step aside. I don't actually think that's reality though,

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Speaker 1: because she's proven herself to be so weak and her

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Speaker 1: approval rating so low. I genuinely don't think there would

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Speaker 1: be very much blowback. It's not like there's actually this

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Speaker 1: ground swell of you know, black women who were hugely

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Speaker 1: support We've just never seen that that's the case.

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Speaker 2: Except on Twitter. White guys you call themselves the k Hive.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly, they're repping for it, right, I mean for

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Speaker 1: this imaginary group of people who are supposedly in love

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Speaker 1: with Kamala Harris. But I genuinely don't think in the

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Speaker 1: real world there would be a lot of low back.

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Speaker 3: From just opening it up to democratic process.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who could object to being like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we're going to have a democratic process, and if Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris comes out on top and people choose her, then

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Speaker 1: she'll be our candidate, and she's the best person in

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Speaker 1: place to defeat Donald Trump. Whatever but we're going to

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Speaker 1: let voters have their say. I just can't imagine there

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Speaker 1: would actually be a real world off of twitter blowback

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Speaker 1: to letting voters actually get to decide in a democratic process.

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Speaker 2: Well to your point, Crystal, there was a shocking moment

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Speaker 2: from Nancy Pelosi on Anderson Cooper's show on CNN where

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Speaker 2: he asked her three times are you going to endorse

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris for vice president? And she won't say it.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a lesson.

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Speaker 18: Is a vice president Harris the best running mate for

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Speaker 18: this president?

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Speaker 19: He thinks so, and that's what matters. And by the way,

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Speaker 19: she's very politically astute. I don't think people give her

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Speaker 19: enough credit. She's, of course values based, consistent with the

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Speaker 19: president's values and the rest, and people don't understand she's

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Speaker 19: politically stu why would she be vice president? She were not,

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Speaker 19: But when she was running for attorney general in California,

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Speaker 19: she had six percent in the polls, six percent in

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Speaker 19: the polls, and she politically astutely made her case about

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Speaker 19: why she would be good, did her politics and became

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Speaker 19: attorney general. So don't people shouldn't underestimate what Kamin Harris

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Speaker 19: brings to the table.

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Speaker 2: Do you think she is the best running mate?

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Speaker 19: Then she's the vice president of the United States. So

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Speaker 19: people say to me, well, why isn't she doing this

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Speaker 19: or that? I said, because she's the vice president. That's

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Speaker 19: the job description. You don't do that much. You know,

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Speaker 19: you know, you're a source of strength, inspiration, intellectual resource

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Speaker 19: and the rest and you and she. I think she's

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Speaker 19: represented a country very well at home and abroad.

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Speaker 2: All right, yeah, much true. By the way, shouldn't be true,

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Speaker 2: but it is true.

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Speaker 12: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't even know what to say about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's one of the most blatant. I mean,

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Speaker 2: she had every opportunity. Is the biggest lay up in

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Speaker 2: the world, Like, yeah, what's happening here? She won't endorse it.

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Speaker 2: I mean we were talking about this before. What's the

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Speaker 2: I mean, what is it? Is it some weird California

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Speaker 2: stuff possible? Is it just that? I mean, look Pelosi, yeah,

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Speaker 2: no fan over here, but got herself re elected a

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Speaker 2: bunch of times. She's a huge Democratic fundraiser. She's probably

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Speaker 2: hearing it from every billionaire on the planet. What have

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Speaker 2: you done to us? Why have you saddled us with

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Speaker 2: this woman? Maybe she's speaking on behalf of the constituent.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I guarantee you in the East Wing

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Speaker 2: or wherever the hell her office is, you can take

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Speaker 2: a notice of that.

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Speaker 3: I have a guess of what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: Could be could be some weird California beef from twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago.

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Speaker 3: That's very possible.

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Speaker 1: My suspicion is this is representing the donor class, because

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Speaker 1: there's no constituency that Nancy Pelosi is closer to or

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Speaker 1: who she depends on for her power board than the

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Speaker 1: donor class. That's the whole reason why she's had so

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Speaker 1: much power in Washington for so long, because she can

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Speaker 1: raise boatloads of money at drop of a hat and

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Speaker 1: still can. And you know, obviously she represents San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: so all of those Silicon Valley type donors not to

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Speaker 1: mention the wall shereet don't. I mean, she's just plugged

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Speaker 1: in with the donor set that is her constituency. And

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Speaker 1: so I think the reason why she is so reluctant

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Speaker 1: to just you know, Nancy Pelosi lies all the time,

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Speaker 1: Like why not just tell this particular lie that you

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Speaker 1: think Kamala Harris is the best choice here. I think

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Speaker 1: it's because she's trying to represent the donor angst over

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Speaker 1: the fact that Kamala Harris is, you know, the vice

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Speaker 1: president and is going to be Joe Biden's running mate

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Speaker 1: once again. And you know, part of why this Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris question is so critical when Nancy Pelosi, in her

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Speaker 1: very like passive aggressive way, is like, well, the vice

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Speaker 1: president doesn't actually do that much. Why it so matters

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Speaker 1: so much is obvious because Joe Biden is super old

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Speaker 1: and there is a really uncomfortably high chance that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't make it through another term. So it stands to

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Speaker 1: reason that people are going to be evaluating that vice

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Speaker 1: president finential selection and you know who the number two

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Speaker 1: on the ticket is a lot more carefully than they

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Speaker 1: might be if you had someone who was younger and

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Speaker 1: you know, in the prime of their life.

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Speaker 3: So that's why this question is so critical.

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Speaker 1: And it's really I can't imagine how Kamala Harris felt

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Speaker 1: watching that. I'm sure she was absolutely apoplectic that Nancy

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Speaker 1: Pelosi would asked three times cannot bring herself to say yes,

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Speaker 1: I think Kamala Harris is the best choice for vice president.

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Speaker 2: I also don't have a lot of sympathy. She's terrible

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Speaker 2: at her job. People deserve to be called out when

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Speaker 2: they're terrible. I would personally like to see more of this.

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Speaker 2: It's a slavish dedication. People are like, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: think so, think she's bad, and the fact that they're

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Speaker 2: willing to get away with it shows you how little

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Speaker 2: power that she really has. Celosi, I don't think we'll

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Speaker 2: be offering an apology or any of that, but you know,

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Speaker 2: it's one of those where, yeah, if we read it

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Speaker 2: in terms of the donors, which of course there's got

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Speaker 2: to be some serious angst about this, well, clearly there's

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Speaker 2: discussions going on behind the scenes, but what a clip.

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Speaker 2: I still can't get over it. Truly shocking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, solutely absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, part of the backdrop here for

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Speaker 1: the tide poles and the Democratic angst is the fact

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Speaker 1: that the economic reality for Americans is terrible. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's just no two ways around it. Over the course

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Speaker 1: of the Biden administration, you've had two phenomenon that have

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Speaker 1: been really tragic, honestly for regular people. One is inflation,

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Speaker 1: and the other is the fact that all the pandemic

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Speaker 1: social safety net programs went away and so the things

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Speaker 1: that were previously helping people and get into a little

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Speaker 1: bit more of this in a moment are gone, leaving

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Speaker 1: them racking up credit card debt and struggling to pay

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Speaker 1: the bills at a time when prices keep going.

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Speaker 3: Higher and higher.

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Speaker 1: So in spite of that actual reality, you've had lots

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Speaker 1: of pundits and mainstream economists coming out to say, I

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Speaker 1: just don't understand why the American people aren't in love

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Speaker 1: with this economy and giving Joe Biden all the credit

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Speaker 1: in the world. I don't get why they don't love Bidenomics.

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Speaker 1: And we had a perfect example of this from the

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Speaker 1: New York Times economists Paul men going on and on

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Speaker 1: about how great the economy is. Literally the day before

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Speaker 1: we got inflation numbers that showed it had spiked once again.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what he was saying.

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Speaker 20: The striking thing if you look at it's not just

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Speaker 20: you know, the economic data have been surreally good. I

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Speaker 20: mean even optimists are just donne by how quickly and

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Speaker 20: how painlessly inflation has come down. We're, you know, no

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Speaker 20: hint of a recession, least so far, never know, but no,

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Speaker 20: so far inflation not too far from the you know,

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Speaker 20: the target of two percent and under three percent by

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Speaker 20: most measures, and all of that just achieve painlessly.

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Speaker 3: So this is great.

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Speaker 20: This is this is a Goldilocks economy. People say it's

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Speaker 20: a terrible economy. But what's really odd is that people

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Speaker 20: don't behave as if.

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Speaker 2: It's terrible economy.

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Speaker 20: You know, we can talk about surveys which in which

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Speaker 20: people seem to be relatively happy with their own financial situation,

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Speaker 20: or can just look at behavior. People are out there

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Speaker 20: with a lot of discretionary consumer spending, travel, hotels, restaurants,

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Speaker 20: all of that is booming. So people are acting as

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Speaker 20: if they're in good shape financially. And yet they say, wow,

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Speaker 20: this is a disastrous economy. Somebody must be a disaster

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Speaker 20: for somebody, but not for me. And you know, they

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Speaker 20: we don't really understand why this is happening, but you know,

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Speaker 20: and I can come up with with multiple stories, but

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Speaker 20: it is I think important to point out that there

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Speaker 20: is a really profound and peculiar disconnect going on.

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Speaker 3: Goldilock's economy. Really good.

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Speaker 1: This man has a Nobel Price in economics and he

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Speaker 1: can't figure Outlet let me, let's help explain why people

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Speaker 1: are not feeling the love on bidnomics. Well, we just

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Speaker 1: got some numbers in let's put this up on the

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Speaker 1: screen that inflation actually ticked back up again, and the

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Speaker 1: primary reason is one that's kind of important to ordinary people.

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Speaker 3: Gas.

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Speaker 1: Gas is the biggest factor, accounting for over half the increase. Shelter,

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Speaker 1: especially rent, also a big factor. Now, there were a

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Speaker 1: million stories, Sager that listen, I am as nerdy about this.

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Speaker 3: Stuff as anyone.

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Speaker 1: I like to get it, okay, what things are going

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Speaker 1: up and what's not and what's driving it, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of spin about.

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Speaker 1: How, well, actually these numbers are not that bad because

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Speaker 1: it's just gas, and it's just rent, just gas, and

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Speaker 1: it's right, what do you think that most people are

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Speaker 1: spending their money on? Like what is hitting their pocketbook

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Speaker 1: the hardest? And obviously those are two of the biggest

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Speaker 1: factors in terms of people being able to make it

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Speaker 1: month to month.

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Speaker 2: Chrystal. The price of gas as of this morning, national

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Speaker 2: average is three eighty five, which is very high. In California,

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Speaker 2: the national of the average state price is five point fifty.

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Speaker 2: All across the West, it is well over four dollars

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Speaker 2: and remains five in some very very populous states. The

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Speaker 2: only some of the cheapest gas in the country is

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Speaker 2: down south in Georgia and in Texas, where it's still

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Speaker 2: only three point forty a gallon. That's that's very high,

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Speaker 2: especially when you compare it to where things were pre

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Speaker 2: pandemic levels. There's no getting around it. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of conversation around why and what and how and energy production.

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Speaker 2: Some of it usually doesn't keep in mind the Ukraine

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Speaker 2: element to it, which unfortunately we don't discuss nearly enough.

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Speaker 3: But the significant point.

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Speaker 2: Is is that guess what, it's not good right now.

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Speaker 2: Also his whole point about I'm doing well but other

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Speaker 2: people are, that's not even true. Put this up there.

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Speaker 2: Real incomes fell last year. Everyone keeps saying, oh, real

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Speaker 2: wages rose, and they're talking about a quarter. Look at

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Speaker 2: the overall dip in the real income for most people

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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty up until now. I mean, whenever you

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Speaker 2: have American real income overall fell in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 2: from the previous year and then maybe have some slight

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Speaker 2: increase in twenty twenty three, you're still down by almost

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Speaker 2: two point three percent for the average real income on

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Speaker 2: American's actual salary that's almost all entirely because of inflation.

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Speaker 2: And so when you have that, you have a record

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Speaker 2: and amount of people who either drop out of the

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Speaker 2: labor force or are finding underemployment so they're technically employed

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Speaker 2: but then unemployed to like the highest degree, and the

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, what if you go to the

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Speaker 2: grocery store, try walking out of there with less than

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Speaker 2: a hundred dollars in a single bag or sorry, in

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Speaker 2: a single trip. It's almost impossible. Yeah, for the vast

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Speaker 2: majority of people, it's just so obvious what's happening. But

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Speaker 2: White House won't learn, and people like Krugnant and all

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Speaker 2: the matter just keep scolding them. It's really like the

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Speaker 2: Obama era. They're like, you're doing well, you're doing well,

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Speaker 2: you're doing well. Yeah, but I don't have a house anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's like we're not talking about

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Speaker 2: the last quarter. We're talking about I had a house

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Speaker 2: and now I don't have one and I probably never

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Speaker 2: will have one. Oh and now I'm sixty seven and

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Speaker 2: inflation is nuking my entire salary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's the real disconnect is between pundits like Paul Krugman

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Speaker 1: and the reality that people are actually facing.

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Speaker 3: Put B seven up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: It's a Jacobin article from our friend Bronco Marcitic who

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Speaker 1: broke down. Hey, guys, here is why people are not

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Speaker 1: feeling the love when G seven Sorry. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to quote unquote bynomics, he writes, inflation is slowing down,

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Speaker 1: but working class life in the US is still hard

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Speaker 1: to afford, and he goes through the numbers. This is

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Speaker 1: not hard to do, guys, This is not hard to do.

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Speaker 1: The spike in child care costs far outpaced the general

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Speaker 1: inflation rate, forcing parents to fork over thousands of dollars

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Speaker 1: a month or to drop out.

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Speaker 3: Of the workforce to take care of their kids.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, there is more funding that is

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Speaker 1: drying up that was put in place during the pandemic

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Speaker 1: to help make child care more affordable, so that situation

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Speaker 1: is only set to get worse. Prescription drugs, which sixty

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Speaker 1: six percent of all US adults use often as a

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Speaker 1: condition of staying alive and healthy, have likewise blown past

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Speaker 1: overall inflation with a whopping thirty one point six percent

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Speaker 1: year to year increase, and the very moderate reforms that

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Speaker 1: were put into the Inflation Reduction Act that only applies

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Speaker 1: to seniors, and it only applies to like ten drugs,

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Speaker 1: and it only applies in like three years time. So

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Speaker 1: don't hold your breath on that really changed and the

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Speaker 1: dynamic with prescription drug costs.

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Speaker 3: He also talks.

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Speaker 1: About how housing is wildly expensive, and obviously the measures

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Speaker 1: that the Federal Reserve took to hike interest rates to

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Speaker 1: try to get inflation under control has made housing perhaps

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Speaker 1: the most expensive that it has ever been in history.

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Speaker 1: And so and he also points to insurance premiums on homes,

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Speaker 1: something we talked a lot about here, cars and healthcare,

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Speaker 1: so on, all of the areas that are most critical

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Speaker 1: to Americans just being able to afford to live and

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Speaker 1: have a basic standard of living, something approaching or approximating

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Speaker 1: a middle class lifestyle. All of those things have gone

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Speaker 1: up and up and up. Really in a lot of

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Speaker 1: ways predates even this current surge of inflation. But it's

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Speaker 1: not hard to see why people would be financially strapped.

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Speaker 1: And we have tracked these numbers, you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: every week, I feel like there's a new indication of

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Speaker 1: how much people are struggling because of two things. Because

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Speaker 1: number one, you had all of the pandemic social safety

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Speaker 1: net which genuinely helped people go away. And number two,

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Speaker 1: you had inflation spike at the very time when people

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Speaker 1: were losing the support that they previously had.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and unfortunately the White House wants to keep telling

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Speaker 2: us about how good things are. Their top economic advisor,

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Speaker 2: Jared Bernstein, took the podium yesterday. Here's his case for

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Speaker 2: why you're doing better than you actually are. Take a listen.

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Speaker 21: Turning to Bidenomics, we start from a position of strength.

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Speaker 21: The US economy is in solid shape, with real GDP

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Speaker 21: growth supported by strong consumer spending that is itself supported

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Speaker 21: by a strong labor market delivering wage gains accounting for inflation.

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Speaker 21: I have a next figure showing that the extent to

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Speaker 21: which you see inflation coming down and prices and wages

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Speaker 21: actually beating prices there both for all workers and for

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Speaker 21: middle wage workers.

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Speaker 2: Well, once again, you know, we come back to that canard.

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Speaker 2: As we just showed you, it's not even true if

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Speaker 2: you look on the actual timescale. They're trying to shrink

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Speaker 2: it so that they're like, oh, well, only in the

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Speaker 2: last quarter, everything's good. Oh, unemployment is so great. Look,

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Speaker 2: vast majority of people you can't tell them. You can't

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Speaker 2: spin them away from the facts. It's obvious, it's true,

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Speaker 2: and it's their own fault where they find themselves right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, it is interesting the one group that has

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Speaker 1: actually seen their real incomes increase is Americans with no

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Speaker 1: high school diploma. Yeah, they saw their incomes increase by

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Speaker 1: six point four percent over and above inflation.

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Speaker 3: And that is a testament to the one.

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Speaker 1: Number that you know, they really want to point to,

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Speaker 1: which is the very low unemployment rate, which is part

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Speaker 1: of what has enabled you know, the labor actions that

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Speaker 1: we've been covering and all of that going on. But

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Speaker 1: there's a lot more to the economy than just what

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Speaker 1: is the unemployment rate. There's also does your job pay

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Speaker 1: enough that you can live? How much are the costs

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Speaker 1: of things that are critical to the thriving and basic

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Speaker 1: survival of yourself and your family. And there seems to

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Speaker 1: be just a total, I don't know if it's intentional

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Speaker 1: blind spot or what, but complete blind spot over those pieces.

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Speaker 1: And so let's move on to this next part. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is so predictable and so stunning. So we had

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Speaker 1: during the early days of the Biden administration, they passed

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Speaker 1: some pandemic recovery programs. They included a child tax credit

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Speaker 1: that was fully refundable that you know, really dramatically reduced

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Speaker 1: child poverty. And the assumption was that, all right, we're

872
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Speaker 1: just going to do this for a short term, but

873
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Speaker 1: it's going to be so popular that Republicans are going

874
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: to be forced to join us, and Joe Manchin is

875
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: going to get over himself and also get on board,

876
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: and we're going to be able to make this thing permanent.

877
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Well that didn't happen for a variety of reasons that

878
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: I'll just get into. And the long and short of

879
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: it is that we've now had child poverty spike the largest.

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Speaker 3: Amount that we've ever had in history. Put this up

881
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: on the screen.

882
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: Child powerty in the US more than doubled, and median

883
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: household income declined last year when COVID era government benefits

884
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: expired and inflation kept rising. This is according to new

885
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: Census Bureau numbers. Let's go and put this next piece

886
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: up on the screen, because you can just visualize it

887
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: so clearly. So, the child poverty rate in twenty twenty

888
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: two was twelve point four percent. Now, this individual, Zach

889
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: Perilan points out that from nineteen sixty seven to twenty

890
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: twenty one. Previously, the largest year over year increase in

891
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: the child poverty rate was ten point seven percent. Now

892
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: we had a record increase, a one hundred and thirty

893
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: nine percent increase in child poverty from twenty twenty one

894
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two. This is a policy choice. You

895
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: can see it right there. When politicians in Washington decided

896
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: that it was important how the child tax cred and

897
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: put it in place, child poverty fell off a cliff.

898
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: And when they decided they didn't care about it that

899
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: much anymore. And I want to say, listen, it was

900
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: mostly Democrats who supported this thing.

901
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: Joe Manchin kind of tanked it, and none.

902
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: Of the Republicans supported So let's be clear about you

903
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: know who stands where on this. But when the politicians

904
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: in the town decided it was no longer a priority,

905
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: it jumped up by record numbers. I did a whole

906
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: thing last week about my view of Bidenomics. I think

907
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: there are some genuine and genuinely good things that have

908
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: been put in place for the long term. Industrial policy important,

909
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: something we will never have seen under Obama, Bush Clinton,

910
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: Corporate antitrust like trust busting. A rethinking of corporate power

911
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: also really important. You see the Google anti trust lawsuit

912
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: going on right now. I talk a nauseum about labor

913
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: power and this Biden National Labor Relations Board and how

914
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: that could be changing the game for union density and

915
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: labor power in this country.

916
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: Those are all long.

917
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: Term trends that isn't helping anyone out right now in

918
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: the current reality where they are trying to pay their bills,

919
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: trying to you know, keep their kids fed, trying to

920
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: keep a roof over their house, trying to keep the

921
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: lights on. All of those things have become more difficult

922
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: during the Biden administration. And then you have these people

923
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: turning around like I just don't get it. I don't

924
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: get why these people don't love us. I don't get

925
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: why they don't love Bidenomics. I don't understand why they're

926
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: not flocking the polls and like enthusiastically ready to support us.

927
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: It's very clear, guys, it's not complicated.

928
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: It's really not complicated at all. And you can just

929
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: watch how it all continues to drop structurally as well.

930
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: Not even we're just talking about child poverty, because that

931
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: just feeds into so many things about how people feel insecure,

932
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: and it has a lot of developmental problems and impacts

933
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: on children. It puts people behind because they have to

934
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Speaker 2: go into debt because they want to provide for their kids,

935
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: and then that makes it so that they can't reach

936
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Speaker 2: even further milestones, you know, further on down the line.

937
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: But the story of the Biden presidency is just pretty obvious.

938
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: It's like, and also why people and why it's so stupid.

939
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: I saw recently they're like, well, we're going to define

940
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: Bidenomics and Maganomics. So I'm like, well, actually, if you

941
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: look back, most people feel like they're doing pretty well

942
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: under Trump. Unambiguously it maybe not even had anything to

943
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: do with Trump, low interest rate, environment and no COVID

944
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: and low inflation. But it was better then and it's

945
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 2: not now. So if the story is that you're getting

946
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: worse worse, worse worse, well things aren't. Uh, things aren't

947
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: looking up for you.

948
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing where they do themselves no favors

949
00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: by completely denying any sort of democratic primary process. Is

950
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: part of why Biden was forced into promising anything on

951
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: economics in twenty twenty was because he had to be

952
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: on stage with primarily Bernie Sanders, but also you know,

953
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren was pressing him on certain things whatever, and

954
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: so he had to have at least somewhat of an

955
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: affirmative economic vision. It was, you know, one of the

956
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: lowest common denominator in terms of the people on the stage,

957
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: but he had to say and promise something, and some

958
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: of those things he went ahead, and the you know

959
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: went forward with you know, we had checks at the

960
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: beginning of the administration.

961
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 3: We had this child to ax credit at.

962
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: The beginning of the administration that now has expired with

963
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: a student loan debt cancelation.

964
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: So the fact that.

965
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Speaker 1: He isn't being pressed in any sort of a democratic

966
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: primary process means what is he He hasn't promised anything

967
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: for our next term. So if people aren't feeling the

968
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: Bidenomics love now and again long term, I think there

969
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: are some really good things. I personally think that you know,

970
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: supporting the Biden National Labor Relations Board versus the union

971
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: busting Trump National Labor Relations Board is really important.

972
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: But these are long term things.

973
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: This is not I'm going to benefit materially right now today,

974
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: and that matters. So if people aren't feeling the love

975
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: you got to make a case for them. What are

976
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: you gonna do that's going to help him out? Like

977
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: it's not enough just to point at Trump. I don't

978
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: think it's enough, even though it has been a very

979
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: potent issue, to just say, hey, we're not going to

980
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: make things worse on abortion. I genuinely believe that if

981
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: they want to get out of this slump, they need

982
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: to persuade people that they're going to actually deliver them,

983
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: make things better for them, or else they are in

984
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: a world of trouble and no, you know, additional Trump

985
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: charges they're going to save them.

986
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: We'll find out. I'm excited to see that test case.

987
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: Who knows they've gotten away with that on abortion once,

988
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: which means they're just going to play that all over again.

989
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mitt Romney. Stunning, I guess not all

990
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: that stunning. He was slated to decide on whether he's

991
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: going to run for reelection in the state of Utah,

992
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: where he's currently the junior senator. He obviously would face

993
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: a brutal primary in the GOP. He already has multiple

994
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: people who had announced against him. He is well into

995
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: his seventies, and he had decide, am I going to

996
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: step down or am I going to actually run for reelection?

997
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: And look, there's a lot of disagreement here on the

998
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: show with Senator round Me on a variety of different topics,

999
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: but this one part of his retirement video I deeply

1000
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: respect and I want people. I want to hold up

1001
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: anybody who is willing to actually say the honorable part

1002
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 2: out loud. Let's take a lisson.

1003
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 18: I've spent my last twenty five years in public service

1004
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 18: of one kind or another. At the end of another term,

1005
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 18: i'd be in my mid eighties. Frankly, it's time for

1006
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 18: a new generation of leaders. They're the ones that need

1007
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 18: to make the decisions that will shape the world they

1008
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 18: will be living in.

1009
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 11: Now.

1010
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 18: We face critical challenges mounding national debt, climate change, and

1011
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 18: the ambitious authoritarians of Russia and China. Neither President Biden

1012
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 18: nor former President Trump are leading their party to confront

1013
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 18: those issues. On deficits and debt, both men refuse to

1014
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 18: address entitlements, even though they know that this represents two

1015
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 18: thirds of federal spending. Donald Trump calls global warming a hoax,

1016
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 18: and President Biden offers field good solutions that make no

1017
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 18: difference to the global climate. On China, President Biden under

1018
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 18: invests in the military, and President Trump under invests in

1019
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 18: our alliances. Political motivations too often impede the solutions that

1020
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 18: these challenges demand. The next generation of leaders must take

1021
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 18: America to the next stage of global leadership.

1022
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: So look, he've listed a lot of different things. Well

1023
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: not even to get into the issue number one problems

1024
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: a national debt. Okay, but he said I would be

1025
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: in my mid eighties. It's time for somebody else's step in.

1026
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: I cannot help but celebrate that. And there's a new

1027
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: profile of Senator Romney coming from a fourth point book

1028
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: about him written by the McCay coppins over at The Atlantic,

1029
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: And he actually has a great section that Romney describes

1030
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: about why the Senate is such an old folks. So

1031
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: let's put this up there on the screen. The average

1032
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: age in the Senate was sixty three years old. Several

1033
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: members Romney included were in their seventies or even eighties.

1034
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: He sensed many of his colleagues attached enormous psychic currency

1035
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: to their position that they would do almost anything to

1036
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: keep it. He talks about it this way, Crystal. Further,

1037
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: they're free meals on site, barbers doctors within one hundred

1038
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: feet at all times. There is an edge to that observation.

1039
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: And he also says most of us have gone out

1040
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: tried playing golf for a week and it was like, Okay,

1041
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to kill myself. He told me. Job preservation

1042
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: in this context became almost existential. Retirement was death, which

1043
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 2: tells us what it's all ego. It's one hundred percent ego.

1044
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: They don't care about you. They care about themselves. They

1045
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: care about the feeling of being important, which is why

1046
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: the Capital tried to describe it before. But it's difficult

1047
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: for me. People who've never like been in the inner sanctum.

1048
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: It is the greatest old folks home of all time.

1049
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 2: You never open a door. You got dreams of people

1050
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: around you at all times who either care about what

1051
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: you think in the form of the reporters, or you

1052
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: got all these lads whose salaries that you pay. Your

1053
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: literally a titan. You can force your interns and others

1054
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: to go get your dry cleaning for you. You don't

1055
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: do anything. It's like being a billionaire without having to

1056
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: be a billionaire, and why would you give that up?

1057
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: And the taxpayer they fund everything you do. You get

1058
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: to have important votes, you get to go on the news.

1059
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Speaker 11: You know.

1060
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing you always find about really old people,

1061
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: is they you know, they always like want to relive

1062
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: their glory days. They don't want to give up the

1063
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: glory day at all, and there's no forcing mechanism to

1064
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: make them get out.

1065
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: I thought this was a very simple comment about why

1066
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: they hang on. I mean, Diane Finestar, so come on, wait,

1067
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: miss McConnell, you don't think anyone else could fill your shoes.

1068
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: Come on, you're not that special. Joe Biden same thing,

1069
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: You're not that special. I mean, I think he's deluded

1070
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: himself into thinking he's the one and only guy that.

1071
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Speaker 3: Can beat Trump.

1072
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: I mean, to have a Titanic ego.

1073
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: To be Titanic. Yeah. Absolutely. But you know, they're they're

1074
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 3: actually they're basically.

1075
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: Addicts to this kind of you know, sense that they're

1076
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: rush that they get from feeling like they're at the

1077
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: center of the world and they're so special and important

1078
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: and whatever. And you take that adrenaline that they get

1079
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: every day from that away from them, and it's, like

1080
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Speaker 1: Mitt says, there, they feel like they're going to kill themselves.

1081
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: They just can't. They can't get off the sauce.

1082
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: It really is like a drug to them and they

1083
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: can't let go of it. So, as you said, lots

1084
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: of issues with I mean, mtt Romney is not a moderate, right,

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Speaker 1: this is a very hard line economic conservative, very culturally considered, Like,

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Speaker 1: very few agreements with Mitt Romney in terms of policy.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that he is able to as a

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Speaker 1: billion or however much money he has, like it shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Be that hard to do.

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Speaker 1: He's going to have a very nice life. But apparently

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Speaker 1: for many of these other individuals who are also very wealthy,

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Speaker 1: like they just can't give it up. So kudos to

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Speaker 1: him for being able to take a step back and

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Speaker 1: step away from all of this. And I also think

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Speaker 1: saga what comes through in this McKay coppins piece too,

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Speaker 1: is he talks about the way Ronny thought about how

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Speaker 1: his Senate term was going to go and what kind

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Speaker 1: of role he could serve. And he thought because Utah

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Speaker 1: has been culturally the most skeptical of Trump, like it's.

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Speaker 2: One of the least Mormons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's one of the least sort of trumpy

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Speaker 1: Republican states. Although I think it has shifted some now

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Speaker 1: over time, but he felt like coming in representing Utah,

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Speaker 1: he might be able, in being the former presidential candidate

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Speaker 1: and one of the leaders of the party whatever, he

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Speaker 1: could maybe serve as the leader of a coalition of

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Speaker 1: people who were able to be critical of Trump from

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Speaker 1: within the Republican Party, and that just didn't work out,

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Speaker 1: you know, to the extent whenever he would pype up

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Speaker 1: and say something critical of Trump or vote against him

1111
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: on different things, he would get all of these pats

1112
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Speaker 1: on the back behind the scenes of people saying like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that I appreciate you doing that.

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Speaker 1: I wish that I could do that too, But in

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Speaker 1: terms of giving anyone else the courage to stand up

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00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: and say what they actually thought about Donald Trump, it

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00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: just didn't happen. And so I think he also realized,

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00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, whatever his listed priorities.

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Speaker 3: Were, they weren't getting done.

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Speaker 1: His vision of being the leader of this kind of

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00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: like anti Trump resistance within the Republican Party that was

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00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: not coming to fruition whatsoever. And so you can see

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Speaker 1: how he's like, well, gee, why would I stay when

1124
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Speaker 1: the core things that I came here to try to

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00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: accomplish are clearly not happening, and I have no hope

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Speaker 1: that they're going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's right. I mean so look, if you want

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Speaker 2: to be a legislator, actually do something, then you're hearing

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00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: the wrong job. Which sounds ridiculous, but that's basically how

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00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: it's been for a really long time, especially if you've

1131
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: got no seniority. So look, I want to commend the man.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad he's leaving. I hope somebody and look, I

1133
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: hope that the people of Utah have a rigorous primary

1134
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: democratic process and can select somebody who best, you know,

1135
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: fulfills what they want. That's what they deserve, and I

1136
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: think we should see a hell of a lot more

1137
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Speaker 2: of this. Okay, let's move on to Hunter Biden. So

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Speaker 2: there's a lot going on with Hunter Biden. Counterpoints did

1139
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: a great job yesterday of covering the impeachment inquiry that

1140
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: the Republicans are opening over on the House side into

1141
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, and the business dealings. But on

1142
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: the Hunter side itself, the Biden White House has just

1143
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: found itself contorting in every different direction as to what

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00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 2: level of legitimacy they can grant. The idea that Hunter

1145
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 2: Biden a did something bad and to what level that

1146
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: Biden was involved because recall, first, Joe Biden had never

1147
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: spoken with Hunter about his business dealings. Then, he had

1148
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: never met with any of Hunter's business partners then, and

1149
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Speaker 2: now the current line is he did do that, but

1150
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Speaker 2: they didn't talk about business. And now the latest line

1151
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Speaker 2: from the White House is that he did these business

1152
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Speaker 2: meetings because Jess he loved his son as any other father.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen, is.

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Speaker 16: The president was present at some of the meetings between Hunter,

1155
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Speaker 16: Biden and his business associates. Why was the president at

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Speaker 16: those meetings on those phone calls?

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Speaker 17: Well, again, I think this is part of the right

1158
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 17: wing's misinformation machine to try to confuse people about what

1159
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 17: the truth is. The truth is that the President, as

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Speaker 17: he has said publicly for years, calls his family every

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Speaker 17: day to check in. He calls his son every day

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Speaker 17: to check in. He calls his other family members to

1163
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Speaker 17: check in to see how they're doing.

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Speaker 3: He loves them.

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Speaker 2: They're a tight knit family.

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Speaker 17: And what the GOP's own witness testified in this case

1167
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Speaker 17: is that that's exactly what the President was doing. He

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Speaker 17: was checking in with Hunter during a particularly hard time

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Speaker 17: I might add a time where the family was going

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Speaker 17: through Hunter's brother, BEA's illness, and of course the president

1171
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 17: checks in with his son and talks to them. But

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Speaker 17: again that witness testified no business dealings of Hunter, Biden's,

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Speaker 17: or any ones was discussed in these conversations. And so

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00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 17: again they're trying to make this sort of strange connection

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Speaker 17: when their own investigation has disproved in these claims.

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Speaker 2: That is actually not what Devin Archer said at all.

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Speaker 2: If you recall Crystal we had Archer I almost respect

1178
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: his disgusting level of cynicism in that interview that he

1179
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: had with with Tucker, and he's like, look is how

1180
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: Washington works. You guy, get a guy on the phone.

1181
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: He got a bunch of Ukrainians in the room, and

1182
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 2: they're like, wow, man, he's got the vice president there

1183
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: on the phone. It doesn't matter Hunter was using it,

1184
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: even if he was just checking in. Biden knew that

1185
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Speaker 2: he was being called into business meetings. He said it

1186
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: happened on dozens of times. Yeah, that had a direct

1187
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Speaker 2: monetary benefit to Hunter. And then there's the question of

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Speaker 2: well Hunter said ten percent of the big buy I

1189
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Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, listen, That's part of the reason

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Speaker 2: I think Gampeach Winter inquiry is fine. I actually would

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00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: love to know whether he got any of that money

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Speaker 2: or not the whole We do know his brother got some,

1193
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's brother, and that the Biden family was getting

1194
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Speaker 2: all it would basically a slush fund for what they

1195
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Speaker 2: were using to use all these foreign, foreign corrupt monies

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Speaker 2: in order to fund lavish lifestyles that all those guys

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Speaker 2: are doing. And then you've got all these crazy things

1198
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Speaker 2: going on since with the art and all this other nonsense,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, guys, having love for your son is

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Speaker 2: obviously something that people can relate with. But what people

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00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, and I think we've talked about this before too,

1202
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: whenever it comes to Hunter and the previous you know

1203
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: element where Biden would refuse to acknowledge his like Hunter's

1204
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: love child until she signed away the mother signed away

1205
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Speaker 2: the right for them to use the Biden family name.

1206
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: It was one of those where you know, a lot

1207
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Speaker 2: of people can forgive, like supporting your son, but what

1208
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Speaker 2: a lot of people can't forgive is that said son.

1209
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Speaker 2: When your son is going through a hard time, if

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00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: you're a normal American, they go to jail or they

1211
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: face consequences, and that actually he's gotten special treatment in

1212
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: every single area of this, and it's been writing off

1213
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: of your name with no consequence to the tune of

1214
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: tens of millions of dollars, and you obviously knew about

1215
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Speaker 2: it and do and do anything. There's also an infantilization

1216
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: element that really bothers me on this whole thing. He's

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Speaker 2: just a dad.

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Speaker 3: He loves his boy like Hunter could be my dad

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Speaker 3: is fifty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's look it up, all right, let's okay.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with you that he could be my father.

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Speaker 2: He literally could be my father. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: As a parent, I can say part of loving your

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Speaker 1: children and being a.

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Speaker 3: Good parent is also saying no.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when your son is like, hey, dad, will you

1227
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Speaker 1: just like hang out on speakerphone on this like shady

1228
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Speaker 1: ass business call up?

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Speaker 3: No, the answer is no. It's really not that hard

1230
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Speaker 3: to do. Just say no.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of thoughts on this, I mean,

1232
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Speaker 1: because everybody is just sort of shameless on this issue.

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Speaker 1: Number one, I am perfectly happy and comfortable with Republican

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Speaker 1: setting a precedent of we're actually going to care about

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Speaker 1: presidential Please apply this across the board. Please, if Donald

1236
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: Trump gets back in there, let's have that precedent. Let's

1237
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: actually care about the disgusting, outrageous, like brazen levels of

1238
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Speaker 1: family corruption going on.

1239
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Speaker 2: It's better than a perfect phone call.

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00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: Inside the Trump white ass. Like let's talk about Jared Kushner,

1241
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Evaga, Let's talk about the way that

1242
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: they you know, cashed in even during the presidency and

1243
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: post presidency and Trump himself with live golf and all

1244
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: this crap, Like, let's actually care about corruption one hundred

1245
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: percent here for that particular precedent to be set.

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Speaker 3: So that's number one. Number two.

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Speaker 1: On the Biden side, it has always been absurd for

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00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: them to pretend like, oh, he's just you know, it's fine,

1249
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: he's just doing business. And of course Joe had no

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00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: idea about it. They've changed their line on that number

1251
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: of times. So obviously they're not being straightforward here either.

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Speaker 1: Republicans have wildly overplayed their hand. You know, they've claimed,

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00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: they've claimed all this evidence of like, you know, having

1254
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: direct evidence of money being exchanged directly to Joe Biden, etc.

1255
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: They have not produced that proof, and so they've wildly

1256
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: over played their hand.

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Speaker 3: On the politics of it.

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Speaker 1: The impeachment inquiry from Kevin McCarthy feels like an attempt

1259
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: to placate people in his caucus who want an actual,

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Speaker 1: you know, actual impeachment, because an impeachment inquiry it's kind

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01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: of meaning it's just an investigation, right, So he's trying

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01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: to placate them. It's mostly like a kind of conservative

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01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: virtue signal is the idea here from McCarthy. It's not

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: even appeasing the people he's trying to appease. But I think,

1265
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: just like Democrats were punished when they spent so much

1266
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: time doing impeachment actual impeachments with Donald Trump, I think

1267
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: for Republicans politically be a disaster. If they tied up

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01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: the nation's capital in endless impeachment hearings and actually went

1269
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Speaker 1: forward with that, I think the American people would be

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Speaker 1: very frustrated.

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Speaker 2: There's a lesson from the Perfect Phone Call impeachment, which

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01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: is that the American people turned on the Democrats. A

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01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: lot of people forget. There's January twenty twenty GOP identification

1274
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 2: and never been higher because people didn't give a shit

1275
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,479
Speaker 2: about the Ukraine funding and all that other stuff, which

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01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: is a real precursor to a lot of the debates now,

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Speaker 2: but that's beside the point. So my thing is is,

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Speaker 2: do not impeach him unless you actually have the goods,

1279
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: as you said, I had. Listen, let's set the precedent.

1280
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Speaker 2: I love it. You know, this is far more legitimate

1281
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: in my opinion than that the idiot phone call on impeachment.

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01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: This is one of those where we should have this

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01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: and now that it's been broken. But like you said,

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01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: you sure do it against Trump, do it against anybody.

1285
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: I don't care who the president is, if they have

1286
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: bad business dealings or any other stuff. Everyone likes to

1287
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: look back at what was the Hillary one that was

1288
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: happening white Water Whitewater. No, this is deep cut Whitewater,

1289
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Speaker 2: which is nineteen ninety four. I want to say. They're like, oh,

1290
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: it was a witch hunt and all that. If you

1291
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: actually go read the details, they're totally nuts about the

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01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: Clinton family and how Hillary was profiting even at that

1293
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: time off of the governorship of Arkansas. Anyway, I think

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Speaker 2: those are legitimate. I think they are good. I don't

1295
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: care if they are a partisan right now, because it

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Speaker 2: just sets better precedent. So that's great. Yeah, the point though,

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Speaker 2: that you said is very important. Do not go forward

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Speaker 2: on us unless you have smoking gun proof. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: issue is I don't know if it exists. That said,

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Speaker 2: if it does, I mean it's one of those where

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Speaker 2: at this problem we've had four years, the president obviously

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Speaker 2: is subject to some level of scrutiny on irs and

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Speaker 2: all that we have. They have to go and uncover

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Speaker 2: the actual ten percent payment or the actual like exchange

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Speaker 2: of money. That's very difficult to prove, unfortunately, because people

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Speaker 2: who do this stuff usually are very good at hiding

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Speaker 2: their tracks. So we'll see. I mean, I would really

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Speaker 2: like to see whether the actually did financially profit or not.

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Speaker 2: And there is a basic point though where their lifestyle

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Speaker 2: absolutely does not match you know, how much money they make.

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Speaker 2: He was actually quite poor before he became vice president.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, well, yeah, how are you buying all

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Speaker 2: these houses?

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Speaker 1: But one percentage of DC of DC politicians, do you

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Speaker 1: think is guilty of that same type.

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Speaker 2: Of one hundred percent maybe one hundred and fifty percent, right.

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Speaker 1: Which is why they never take it seriously, which is

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Speaker 1: why you know Ted Luke can come on with us

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Speaker 1: on rising like what people sit on board?

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Speaker 3: They are in salaries, what's a big.

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Speaker 1: Deal because that's how all of these people operate. And

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Speaker 1: so that's the problem for the Republicans is proving something

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Speaker 1: beyond the shit that they're all doing too and so

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Speaker 1: far they have not been able to produce that evidence.

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Speaker 1: And lord knows they've been looking. I mean they're looking

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Speaker 1: for certainly years now, trying to find some smoking gun

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Speaker 1: proof that there is natural money that went into Joe

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01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: Biden's hands and Joe Biden's bank account. So that's what

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Speaker 1: they're you know, that's what they're trying to find and listen,

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Speaker 1: more power to Like I said, I would love for

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Speaker 1: DC to take corruption seriously in a bipartisan manner where

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Speaker 1: both sides applied the same set of rules.

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Speaker 3: Do I have a lot of hope that that's going

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Speaker 3: to happen? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Well, we will see, Chryssel. What are you taking a

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Speaker 2: look at?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: At midnight tonight, the negotiating deadline for Big three automakers

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Speaker 1: and the United Auto Workers expires. As it stands right now,

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Speaker 1: looks very much like these workers are headed into a

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Speaker 1: historic and possibly transformational strike and a sign that they're

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01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: on the brink. Uaw's new president, Sean Fain, took to

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Speaker 1: Facebook live last night to reveal the strike plan.

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Speaker 3: That they have devised.

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Speaker 1: In order to exert maximum pressure on these auto executives,

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Speaker 1: let's take a lesson.

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Speaker 22: For the first time in our history, we may strike

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Speaker 22: all three of the Big three at once. Our message

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Speaker 22: to the companies was clear, if we don't have a

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Speaker 22: fair contract by midnight on Thursday night, we will strike.

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Speaker 22: The second big difference is the way we're going to

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Speaker 22: strike is going to be very different. In fact, we're

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Speaker 22: inventing a whole new way to strike, and we're calling

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Speaker 22: it the stand up strike. The name stand up strike,

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Speaker 22: of course, recalls the movement that built our great union,

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Speaker 22: the sit down Strikes of nineteen thirty seven. Just as

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Speaker 22: in the nineteen thirties, we're living in a time of

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Speaker 22: stunning inequality throughout our society. We're living in a time

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Speaker 22: where our industry is undergoing massive transformations, and we're living

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Speaker 22: in a time where our labor movement is redefining itself.

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Speaker 22: In the spirit of the sitdown strike, the stand up

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Speaker 22: strike will keep the companies guessing. It's going to rely

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Speaker 22: on discipline, organization, and creativity. The stand up strike begins

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Speaker 22: with all of our locals from parts distribution centers to

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Speaker 22: assembly plants maintain a constant strike readiness. It's really important

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Speaker 22: that we're clear on this point. We will not strike

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Speaker 22: all of our facilities at once. We will strike all

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Speaker 22: three companies a historic first, initially at a limited number

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Speaker 22: of targeted locations that we will be announcing. Then, based

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Speaker 22: on what's happening and bargaining, we're going to announce more

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Speaker 22: locals that are going to be called to stand up

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Speaker 22: and strike. These locals will join those that are already

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Speaker 22: on strike, so that our strike at each company will

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Speaker 22: continue to grow over time.

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Speaker 3: So we will see.

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Speaker 1: But it sounds to me like they are going out

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Speaker 1: and tonight at ten pm, fans going to do another

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Speaker 1: Facebook Live to announce striking locals if indeed those negaged

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01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: negotiations fail. So prepare yourself to see one thousand panic

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Speaker 1: headlines about workers tanking the economy.

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Speaker 3: But the economy that.

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Speaker 1: They are really worried about isn't the one that determines

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01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: whether you can earn enough money to feed your family,

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01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: because workers flexing power can only be good for that economy.

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Speaker 1: The economy they're worried about is the one that funnels

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Speaker 1: all profits constantly to the top. If there is one

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Speaker 1: thing you should know about the dynamics of this potential strike,

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01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: it's that the Big Three can easily afford to pay

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Speaker 1: their workers a lot more, and it's only sheer corporate

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Speaker 1: greed that prevents them from doing so. How do we

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Speaker 1: know that, Well, first of all, these companies are so

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Speaker 1: flush with cash that they have authorized five billion dollars

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Speaker 1: in stock buybacks in the past year alone. Now, stock

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Speaker 1: buybacks amount to a giant shareholder giveaway in which companies

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01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: use their cash not for research or investment or worker pay,

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01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: but simply to buy their own stock, artificially pumping up

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Speaker 1: the price.

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Speaker 3: So they got plenty enough money for.

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Speaker 1: Giveaways to themselves and are wealthy shareholders, but are suddenly

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01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: crying poor when it comes to people who are responsible

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Speaker 1: for generating all that money.

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01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: And the cash, by the way, it continues to pour in.

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01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: In the first six months of twenty twenty three, the

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01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: Big Three reporting twenty one billion dollars in profits. The

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01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: history of these companies is also critical to remember too.

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't just taxpayers that bailed on Detroit in the

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01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: financial crash. Workers took a huge hit at the time

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01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: to bail these companies out per the lever the UAW

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01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: agreed to eleven billion dollars in labor cuts, twenty one

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01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: thousand layoffs, a wage freeze for workers, a tiered wage

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Speaker 1: system for new workers, and no strike agreement until twenty fifteen,

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01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: and the transfer of retirees' healthcare and pension benefit costs

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01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: from GM to the UAW in order to save GM

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01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: three billion dollars. Workers have never made up for the

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Speaker 1: losses that they shouldered to float these abusive companies, even

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01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: as these companies reach extraordinary new levels of profitability. So

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Speaker 1: now armed with a new militant UAW president, the energy

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01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: of a union renaissance, the backing of an actually pro

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01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: worker NLRB, and a massive eight hundred and twenty five

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01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: million dollars strike fund that's expected to last for nearly

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Speaker 1: three months, these workers are coming for what they have

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01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: long been doe. Now, what exactly are the workers demands?

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01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: While under the slogan record profits mean record compras the

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01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: UAW is demanding significant gains. They are asking for, among

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01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: other things, forty percent pay hikes over the course of

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01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: four years to match the payhikes that the big three

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01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: CEOs have enjoyed They're also pushing for bold quality of

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01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: life improvements, like a shift to a thirty two hour

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01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: work week. They want to restore the cost of living

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 1: and pension benefits that they had prior to the auto bailount,

1431
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 1: and they want to make sure their workers are protected

1432
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: in the event of plant closures. Now, corny and to fain,

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01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: none of the Big three have come close to meeting

1434
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: these demands, but you can also see they've definitely gotten

1435
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: these companies' attention. All three companies have offered close to

1436
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 1: a twenty percent payhike over the next four or so

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01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: years and some level of cost of living adjustment. Just

1438
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: behold the awesome power of the union. Imagine being able

1439
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: to scoff at a twenty percent payhike and be like,

1440
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: screw you, I deserve more.

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01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 3: And you know what, they do deserve more, and so

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01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 3: do you. Now.

1443
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Speaker 1: In terms of the larger effects here, they have the

1444
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: potential to be massive. Obviously, there will be a direct

1445
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: impact in the short term on the auto market, but

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01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: in some ways that's the least of the potential impact.

1447
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: There's perhaps no industry in America more iconic or more

1448
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: synonymous with the American middle class than the Big three automakers.

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01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: Henry Ford famously was very little anti union, but he

1450
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: did believe his workers should be paid well enough that

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01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: they can afford the product that they're building, and his

1452
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: imposition of a forty hour work week, along with massive

1453
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: union pressure and organizing, help to invent something we all

1454
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: take for granted now, that's the weekend. So it is

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01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: no stretch to say that auto workers could single handedly

1456
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: redefine what workers should expect from their employers in times

1457
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: of record profits, especially coming on the heels of the

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01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:42,440
Speaker 1: successful ups contract negotiations which saw their driver's land significant

1459
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: wage and safety gains. Few things are more pivotable pivotal

1460
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: for the future of the working class in America right

1461
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 1: now than the ability for unions to grow their membership

1462
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: after years of decline, and nothing could be more compelling

1463
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: for workers considering unionizing than witnessing the massive gains that

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01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: union workers are able to secure now. There's also a

1465
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: big old political fight tangled up directly in this negotiation.

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01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: The automakers of their own accord, but also spurred by

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: investments from the Biden Administration's Inflation Reduction Act, they're working

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01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: to shift away from gas powered cars to electric vehicles. Now,

1469
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: typically when these industry shifts occur, they're used as an

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01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: excuse to hasten a race to the bottom shipping jobs

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Speaker 1: overseas or at least to the most low wage, anti

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Speaker 1: union parts of the country. Thanks to Joe Manchin being

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01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 1: the literal worst, the Biden administration has asked the incentives

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: for automakers to keep these new EV jobs, union frustration

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01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: that has led to the uaw withholding their endorsement from

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01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: Biden's reelection. So this contract negotiation is also designed to

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01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: try to secure a just transition to evs that make

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: sure workers are in on the big industry of the future,

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01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: which is absolutely critical. So when you put all of

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01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: this together, this looming strike with a midnight deadline tonight

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01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: could serve as a wake up call to the boss

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01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: class and their political allies, and it could serve as

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01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: an awakening for workers that they do not have to

1484
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: continue to accept a smaller and smaller piece of the

1485
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: pie year after year after year. And that shift in

1486
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: consciousness and the balance of power could be a whole revolution.

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01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,560
Speaker 1: So I'm watching this one very closely.

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01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: And if you want to hear my reaction to Crystal's

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01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: monologue become a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com.

1490
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 3: All right, Sager, tell us what you're looking at.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually not doing a monologue today, or at least

1492
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 2: a written one, because in a few minutes from now,

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Speaker 2: the NASA UFO report will come out and I'll be

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01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: doing a live reaction either in this show or probably

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Speaker 2: later on our channel, depending how long it takes to digest.

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01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 2: But I did think it would be fun to preview

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: that with a little bit of skepticism, so people do

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01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: know that I don't accept everything around the UFO topic.

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Speaker 2: You might have seen the internet dominated recently with these

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Speaker 2: images after the so called unveiling of alien bodies before

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: the Mexican Congress. Let's go ahead and play the video

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01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 2: for everybody up there on the screen, Crystal. As you

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01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: could see, these are basically almost like et level bodies

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01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: that have been compiled and been put together. Of people

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01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: who are watching. This is literally was a video taken

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01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: directly from the feed that was there, And I've actually

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01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: got a lot of messages about this, like, oh my god,

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01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: is this real? Is what's actually happening? Are the bodies?

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Speaker 2: How come nobody is paying attention to this and listen, guys,

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Speaker 2: this is just a massive red flag for me on

1511
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: every level, aside from the fact that the bodies quite

1512
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 2: literally look like et let's just give a little bit

1513
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: of a background about the person who is behind this,

1514
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: and once I don't want to smirch anybody's character. I'm

1515
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: just giving you somebody's record here. Let's go ahead and

1516
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: put this up there. All of this has really been

1517
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: pushed by a guy named Jaime Mussan. He's a Mexican

1518
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: UFO ologist. He's got a big YouTube channel, and just

1519
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 2: off the bat, I can't help but think of one

1520
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: of the most legendary incidents that has happened in the

1521
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: UFO alien world, where he had something called the Roswell

1522
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 2: slides and which purported to show a dead alien and

1523
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: as you could see there, this was back in twenty fifteen,

1524
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 2: he actually had to apologize, admitting that the picture actually

1525
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 2: showed the mummified body of a child. I would also

1526
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: know that Ryan Graves, one of the pilots who has

1527
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 2: come forward and talked about his experiences and also the

1528
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 2: experiences of others about the UFO phenomenon and encounters by

1529
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: US military pilots, was present and has now denounced the

1530
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: said incident. Let's put this up there on the screen,

1531
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: he says. Quote. After the US Congressional UFO hearing, I

1532
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 2: accepted an invitation to testify before the Mexican Congress, hoping

1533
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 2: to keep up the momentum of the government interest in

1534
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,440
Speaker 2: the pilots. Unfortunately, yesterday's demonstration was a huge step backwards

1535
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: for the issue. My testimony centered on sharing my experience

1536
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: and the UAP reports I hear from commercial and military

1537
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: aircrew through the ASA Witness program. I will continue to

1538
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: raise awareness as an urgent matter of aerospace safety, national security,

1539
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: and science. But I am deeply disappointed by this unsubstantiate stunt.

1540
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 2: I also, unfortunately have to flag for everybody that Chrystal.

1541
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: This is not even the first time that Hyma Wassan

1542
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: has passed some of this stuff off. In twenty seventeen

1543
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 2: he had actually published videos called Special Report Unearthing Nasca

1544
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 2: as in the Nasca Lines in Peru where these supposed

1545
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: bodies come from, and in twenty eighteen he gave it

1546
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: another presentation actually to the Peruvian Congress during a four

1547
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: hour meeting, again called the Mummies of Nasca. He has

1548
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: did it in a twenty nineteen documentary. So this is

1549
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 2: not even the first time that these bodies or mummies

1550
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: or whatever have been presented. I guess it's only the

1551
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 2: first time that they've been presented to the Mexican Congress.

1552
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: The other thing is everyone was like, oh, well, he's

1553
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: testifying under oath. Actually that was a pro forma thing.

1554
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not the same actual under oath as

1555
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: if before the US Congress. I guess what everybody focused

1556
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: on was that one of the people who spoke his

1557
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: name is Jose Sanchez. He was the director of the

1558
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 2: Mexican Navy's Forensic Medical Service, said quote, I can affirm

1559
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: these bodies have no relation to human beings, and said

1560
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 2: how it's bones, muscles, and ligaments were put together, and

1561
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: said that they have three fingers in a wrapping manner

1562
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: to hold things. I would point out the DNA analysis

1563
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 2: compared with more than one million species, we found their

1564
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 2: significant difference between what is known and these bodies, but

1565
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: has not had any peer review of those claims or any.

1566
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 3: Of that, So red flags everywhere.

1567
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: We got a guy who already got fooled once with

1568
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: a dead body to say that it was nailing we

1569
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: got bodies which have been passing around. He's been passing

1570
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 2: these things around for four or five years. And then

1571
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 2: we have no substantiation on the DNA claim. We have

1572
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: no real under oath. All we really got is a

1573
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 2: hilarious video and some fantastic memes. By the way, there's

1574
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 2: some great things that are out there. But I gotta

1575
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: tell you, I'm calling bs at least on this, and

1576
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: very very respected people in the UFO community to all.

1577
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: I reached out to them privately, all warned me about

1578
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 2: this guy's reputation. They're like, look, I basically don't word

1579
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: that the man says. So I think it's unfortunate. I

1580
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: actually think it's step back for the issue because just

1581
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 2: it's like, come on, what you think. You know, alien

1582
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 2: bodies just materialized in out of Nasca and been lying

1583
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 2: there for a thousand years, and you know, if it

1584
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 2: was real, then obviously a lot of people will be

1585
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 2: paying attention, So listen. It's uh, there's a lot of

1586
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 2: reason to be skeptical. Yeah, there's a lot of reasons.

1587
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,879
Speaker 3: The visual alone is sort of hilarious.

1588
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 23: Come on, god, I mean it just I mean, I

1589
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 23: won't be the first that it literally just looks like

1590
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 23: et Yeah, Like they just were like, you know, cartoonish

1591
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 23: image of what an alien would look like from some

1592
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 23: like nineteen fifties movie or whatever, and like, let's do that.

1593
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: And then the dust why is it like dusty? And

1594
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: that I showed this to my kids because we were.

1595
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 2: Talking about it was funny. Yeah, and they just.

1596
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: Started laughing, like even to a child, this seemed absurd

1597
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: and ridiculous.

1598
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 3: So there you go.

1599
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 2: It's unfortunates all I have thattunate. The thing is is

1600
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: that the reason went viral is because of the video

1601
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: and the whole like oh, they're testifying onunder oath. It's

1602
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: just like it falls apart.

1603
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: The Mexican government part was the part that and also

1604
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 1: who you know, there were some news out I don't know,

1605
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: it was like Daily Mail or somebody like that that

1606
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: writes this up kind of like credulously, like all these

1607
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: they say that there are eggs in the body, and

1608
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, and the whole there's the DNA doesn't match one.

1609
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: They don't mention any of the parts of like oh,

1610
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: by the way, they're not under the oath.

1611
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: By the way, this guy has.

1612
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: Been caught like pushing things that were complete hoaxes before.

1613
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: By the way, you know, there was no pure review

1614
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: of the supposed DNA evidence or whatever. By the way,

1615
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 1: there's no evidence of these alleged eggs inside the bodies.

1616
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: Somehow that all got left out of the report, and

1617
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: so people read it and take it at face value

1618
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: when they should not.

1619
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: Here's the thing dealing with this topic. You mean, a

1620
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: lot of people, and a lot of people really believe

1621
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 2: a lot of the things that they tell you. So

1622
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the guy's a liar. I

1623
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: think he probably believes it. That said, sometimes we believe

1624
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: things a little bit too hard. I want to believe, Okay,

1625
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: I want to believe. I want to see it. I

1626
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: want to be like, oh my god, it's real. But

1627
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: you got to you gotta if you do believe. Actually,

1628
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: if you're somebody who thinks there's something that there's real

1629
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: truth out there, well you Havetually, it's incumbent on you

1630
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: and especially me in this case, in order to tell

1631
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: people be like, guys, I'm not seeing this one. Even

1632
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 2: a tiny little bit could be proven wrong. But until

1633
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 2: some serious stuff goes through peer review and we see

1634
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 2: a hell of a lot more evidence and our people

1635
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: get involved and all of that. Then I'm going to

1636
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 2: be having my skeptic hat on. Now what I don't

1637
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 2: have my skeptic hat on is that, hopefully soon we'll

1638
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: be able to bring on this channel, is that NASA,

1639
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: by congressional mandate, has had to put out a actual

1640
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 2: full report with sixteen independent people astronauts and others as

1641
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: well as a NASA administrator to tell us a little

1642
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: bit about what they know based upon the technology that

1643
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: we have in space as mandated and pushed by Congress,

1644
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 2: that they have fought against at every turn, that I'm

1645
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: actually very interested in, and we'll be doing some analysis,

1646
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: but this one. Just hold your horses, folks. Sorry to

1647
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: burst your bubble, but no way.

1648
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, just when you want to believe, you actually have

1649
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: to be even more skeptical to check your own biases.

1650
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 3: So thank you for that presentation. Welcome, we appreciate.

1651
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm excited for the NASCY UOFO report though. Look out

1652
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 2: for that on.

1653
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely stay tuned for that. Okay, we had one

1654
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: that we wanted to had to add this into the show.

1655
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: So Drew Barrymore had already decided she wanted to break

1656
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 1: the writer's strike and bring her daily talk show back

1657
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: on which I sort of barely knew existed anyway. But

1658
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: she was the first to break the seal and become

1659
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:27,919
Speaker 1: a scab. Now we have another individual, another real scab

1660
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: here in Bill Maher. Put this back up on the

1661
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: screen Real Time coming back. Unfortunately, songs writers are writing.

1662
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 1: Has been five months and it is time to bring

1663
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: people back to work. The writers have important issues that

1664
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: I sympathize with and hope they are addressed to their satisfaction.

1665
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: But they are not the only people with issues, problems,

1666
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: and concerns. Despite some assistance from me, much of the

1667
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: staff is struggling mightily. We all were hopeful this would

1668
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: come to an end after Labor Day, but that day

1669
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: has come and gone and there still seems to be

1670
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: nothing happening. I love my writers, I'm one of them,

1671
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: but I'm not prepared to lose an entire year and

1672
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: see so many below the line people suffer so much.

1673
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: I will honor the spirit of the strike by not

1674
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 1: doing a monologue dust Be's new rules or editorial the

1675
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: written pieces that I'm so proud of on Real Time,

1676
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: and I'll say it upfront to the audience. The show

1677
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: I'll be doing without my writers will not be as

1678
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: good as our normal show full stop. But at the

1679
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: heart of the show is an off the cuff panel

1680
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: discussion that aims to cut through the bullshit predictable partisanship,

1681
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: and that will continue the show will not disappoint. Very

1682
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: similar to some of the comments that he made recently

1683
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: that we covered what he was with Jim Gaffigan, I think,

1684
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: and he was talking to him about the writer's strike,

1685
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: and it sounded very similar to what this justification is here.

1686
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: But ultimately, I mean, this is the devastating blow to

1687
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: writers because he is so prominent, and the more shows

1688
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 1: that you have, and the more prominent, famous, wealthy personalities

1689
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: you have that are willing to cross the picket line

1690
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: and become scabs and break the strike, the easier it

1691
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: is for other shows to follow suit. So I see

1692
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: this as truly devastating, and he seems to place What

1693
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: really bothers me about this statement is he seems to

1694
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: place the onus of the burden of the fact that

1695
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 1: there's been a shutdown for so long on the writers,

1696
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 1: rather than saying a word about the studios, who explicitly

1697
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: at the start of this said Hey, We're going to

1698
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: starve these people out. We're going to make sure they're

1699
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 1: losing their homes and getting kicked out of their apartments.

1700
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: That's our strategy. And you don't have a word of

1701
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: criticism for them. You're putting all the blame on the

1702
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: writers who are trying to just be able to eke

1703
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: out a living now and into the future.

1704
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 3: Just disgraceful.

1705
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 2: Another thing I thought which was weird is that he says,

1706
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: at the heart of the show is an off the

1707
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: cuff panel discussion that aims to cut through the bullshit

1708
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 2: and predictable partnership. You have a podcast, it's called Club Random.

1709
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: You've been doing it right. You actually have panels. They

1710
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 2: had Tarantino actually watching that one, the one with Tarantino

1711
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: and I forget. I think it was Judd Apatow, the

1712
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 2: three of them like talking over wis gay. I loved it.

1713
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: That was really interesting. That said It's like, well, if

1714
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: the heart of the show is that you already have it,

1715
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 2: and you don't have to do that by crossing the

1716
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 2: picket line or any of that. Now, Look, I think

1717
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 2: it's year that he feels bad for let's say the

1718
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 2: camera guys or any of the other people who are

1719
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 2: impacted by this, I also feel very bad for them too,

1720
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 2: But I haven't seen any of those people come out

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Speaker 2: and demand an end to the strike. A lot of

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Speaker 2: those people are union, they're all they're in a different union,

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01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: so they're, I mean, from what I understand, very much

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01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 2: in solidarity with what's happening with the writers. So overall

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01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 2: very puzzling. Let's also see if they do with the

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01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 2: Drew Barrymore show has been doing where they're like searching

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Speaker 2: people's bags for pro WGA buttons.

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01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: Killing people out who are wearing like, you know, pro

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01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: union merch what.

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Speaker 2: Like, what are we doing here? The thing is it

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01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: also Drew Barrymore, you know, I have you bear a

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: child star, you're an et. We're just talking about aliens.

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01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: You don't have enough money that you guys, like, what

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Speaker 2: are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: Listen?

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Speaker 1: I also have a lot of sympathy for, as he says,

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01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: the other below the line, people who you know, depend

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01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: on this work and it's important, Like huge sympathy for them,

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01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to pretend that there's no cost

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01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: there whatsoever. But again, whose fault is it that they're

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01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 1: still out on strike? It's the fault of the studios

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01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: that will not come to the table and give them

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Speaker 1: a decent deal that they could then say, Okay, we're

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01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: good with this, let's move forward. It's not the writer's fault.

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01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 1: They are just trying to secure the basics of a living.

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01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: And remember what Bill said, which was even worse than

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01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, my irritation with this statement is he said

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01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: something like the writer, these writers they think they are

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01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: o a living and they're not. I mean to me,

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01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: that really gave away the game of you know, a

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01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: level of contempt, a level of being disconnected from what

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01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: the reality of your regular There's a lot of regular

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01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: like paycheck to paycheck working folk in Hollywood, and so

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01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: for you to, oh, they just don't even deserve to

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01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: make a living, you know, you put it at the

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01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: times out you're like, listen, if you're like turning your

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01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: first script and you've never done this before, Okay, that's

1758
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 1: what we're talking about union members. We're talking about people

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01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: who this is their job and their career and they've

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01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: been putting in the time and doing the work for

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01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: a long Yes, of course they deserve a living. So

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01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: it's very it's just very disappointing to see because I

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01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: genuinely think it is a big blow to the leverage

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01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: and ability of writers to be able to strike a deal.

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: And remember, part of what they're fighting is there's a

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01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: huge technological revolution that we are right now on the

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01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: brink of where these studios want to be able to

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01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: use chat, GPT or other AI to generate first scripts

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01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: and then bring writers on after the fact, to just

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01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 1: do polish work at a much lower rate and for

1771
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 1: many fewer hours, and be a lot less integral and

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01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 1: just basically like strip as much of the humanity and

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01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: creativity out of these shows and movies and out of

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01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: film production overall. So this is something that we all

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01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: have a stake in and it's to me, it's just

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01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: really disgraceful to scab like this and have such an

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01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: impact in terms of trying to break this strike. I

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01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: just I think it's really going to have an impact,

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01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: and that's unfortunate.

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01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 2: The real question is how many guests ors are you

1781
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 2: going to get who are willing.

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01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 3: I'm wondering about that too.

1783
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 2: You're actually willing to go ahead and participate in this,

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01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 2: I would be very curious to see how.

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01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, he won't have any trouble getting like his conservative guests. Sure,

1786
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: you know who don't really support unions to start with.

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01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: But if you're like a democratic politician and you're thinking

1788
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: of going on Bill Maher right now.

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01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 11: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: If you are anyone who considers yourself to be you know,

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01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: at all supportive of unions or left of center or

1792
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 1: liberal or whatever, and you're thinking of going on that show.

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01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 3: Yes, nope, agreed, We'll be watching carefully.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you guys so much for watching. We really

1795
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Like I said, the UFO report is out.

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01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,960
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01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,600
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1802
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,200
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1804
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Speaker 2: see you all on Monday.

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Speaker 12: Who