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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: Is that woo woom and down and tie? Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to these solid Verba boys and girls. My name is

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Speaker 1: Ty Hildebrand jointing me over there in locked down in

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Speaker 1: New York City, the one and only Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you tie?

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Speaker 2: In these very strange times, It's kind of comforting. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. It is always comforting to hear

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Speaker 2: your voice, but it is especially comforting to hear the

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Speaker 2: enthusiasm in your voice. As at least I as a

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Speaker 2: pretty full stream podcaster, and you as somebody who regularly

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Speaker 2: wears I would say classified hazmat suits your secret day job.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's just cut it off right there.

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Speaker 2: We are at least used to a little bit of isolation. Sure, Wait,

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Speaker 2: but as as more and more people self isolate or

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Speaker 2: is using common sense and consideration during these again, very

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Speaker 2: strange times, I'll say, welcome to the party.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the party. One and all. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: downloading the solid verbal. I am Ty Hildebrant. He is

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein. Both of our hands look like the dinosaur

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Speaker 1: eggs from Jurassic Park one. At this point, I am

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Speaker 1: assuming we are not alone in this journey. However, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk as much college football as we can. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Over the next hour or so, we got some fun

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you would just assume that tie well,

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Speaker 2: of course, of course, now as we are recording, it

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Speaker 2: does feel like the world is falling apart.

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Speaker 1: Many schools have canceled spring athletics, March Madness is off.

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Speaker 1: Countless sports entities in leagues are canceling or postponing. So

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Speaker 1: there is clearly a lot of action out there. But

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Speaker 2: I think that's reasonable enough. What is actually still happening?

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Speaker 2: Golf and NASCAR NASCAR without the crowd. I mean, as

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Speaker 2: That's what seems to be still happening. And certainly there

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Speaker 1: Correctly, I mean, it might just be podcasting in Netflix

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Speaker 2: Certainly, the least consequential victim of COVID nineteen coronavirus is

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Speaker 2: the ability to generate content now without spring practice, now

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Speaker 2: without recruiting it's right, So that is the least consequential

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Speaker 2: and important victim of all of this, and that's where

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Speaker 2: we stand today. Ty, I'm going to explain what we're

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Speaker 2: doing here today. I don't know if you wanted to

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Speaker 2: promote various avenues that we have where you can find

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Speaker 2: Instagram because it's March. It's March. We got nothing else

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Speaker 2: Verbo right there on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, anywhere that generally

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Speaker 1: We are the beaks of content hungry for ballers are

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Speaker 1: as we progress through whatever remains of our college football springtime.

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Speaker 2: whatever in that college football in general is I would argue,

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Speaker 1: Subpar well first and foremost. Yeah, this would be a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about all show topics, A lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Takes a lot of fun chatter, and you could talk

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Speaker 1: about this show which is cake themed, Dan, Now your

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Speaker 2: But well, he'll be on a big stage to prove

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Speaker 2: Not in the short term, Not in the short term. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So the inner workings of our cake here are very competitive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a show about positivity today. We want progression.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: I could see Nebraska starting seven and oh this year.

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Speaker 2: They just need to be a little bit more cu well.

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Speaker 2: They have Central Michigan and improve Central Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Just work with me here, Dan, there's a global pandemic.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, okay, I think Nebraska's in a

433
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Speaker 1: pretty good place. They need to be more consistent. I

434
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Speaker 1: do think that Scott Frost has done a good job

435
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: on the personnel front as well. Was a good recruiting class,

436
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: fourth in the Big Ten. They focused a lot on

437
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: what they need on defense, especially in the secondary. We

438
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: said for a long time the Big Ten West can

439
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Speaker 1: be had. Minnesota rose up a little bit last year,

440
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: a lot of bit last year and had a wonderful season. Yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: I would expect that they would be pretty good again.

442
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Speaker 1: But it seems like if you're gonna be on any

443
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Speaker 1: side of the Big Ten, the West is where you

444
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Speaker 1: want to be. If you're in a position like Nebraska

445
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: finds itself currently where you just need to sort of

446
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: get up into that next tier, you need to try

447
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: and do so with the path of least resistance. It's

448
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: certainly the easier side of the Big Ten.

449
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you look at the actual Nebraska roster

450
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: and you look at the actual improvement or lack thereof

451
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: of the defense and how beat up and even when

452
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: he wasn't crazy beat up, Adrian Martinez and his twenty

453
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Speaker 2: nineteen season were. And there's something I guess a little

454
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: bit encouraging about Luke McCaffrey, But that seems to be

455
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: more about his running ability than his throwing ability. They're

456
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: very thin at offensive skill made even thinner. JD. Spielman

457
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: has taken a leave of absence for the time being,

458
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: so it's unclear what his future is going to be

459
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: if everything returns to normal in the college football world

460
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: and just the world in general. I really hope twenty

461
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: eighteen wasn't a matter of Scott Frost getting the best

462
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: of Adrian Martinez and also surrounding him. I think it

463
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: was divine a zigbow in the backfield, one thousand yard rusher,

464
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: and then Stanley Morgan, a thousand yard receiver, inheriting enough

465
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: offensive skill talent to make it seem like there's patchwork

466
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Speaker 2: potential in Lincoln. The defense is what has me pretty

467
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: troubled now. They got trounced against good teams last year.

468
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: They had a hard time against the run, they really did.

469
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 2: They got drownced. And this is year three. This is

470
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: Scott Frost's team. Yeah, and all of that hope and

471
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: potential going into last year, and I know the injury

472
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: at quarterback everything like that, but I really like Wandale Robinson.

473
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: That's a proven factor for them on offense. But I

474
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Speaker 2: just I didn't see a lot to make me think.

475
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Speaker 2: And I you know, you have their schedule in front

476
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Speaker 2: of you. I guess I do too. Now it's not horrible, No,

477
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: but they finish the back half is after Rutgers on

478
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Speaker 2: the road, they stay on the road, and it's Ohio State,

479
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: Penn stayed at home, and then Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota. With

480
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: Iowa and Wisconsin both on the road in consecutive weeks, tough.

481
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Speaker 1: Back half of the schedule is pretty tough, That's what

482
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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

483
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Speaker 2: I don't have any confidence right now with how the

484
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Speaker 2: team is currently built and coached, and I just that

485
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Speaker 2: Nebraska is going to be anything more than slightly better.

486
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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that makes me think that

487
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Speaker 2: they're fully satisfactory.

488
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Speaker 1: All right, Dan, I thought we were thinking positively here,

489
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: but trusting too. I guess that's not what we're here for.

490
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Speaker 1: Fair enough, I have, so we're gonna we're gonna think positively.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a good distance. We're moving distance. Okay,

492
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: thank you gotta prep me before you do that. No,

493
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: you're just on your toes. I like it.

494
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Speaker 1: So if Nebraska moves up, that means someone else got

495
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Speaker 1: to move up. In the next tier and satisfactory again

496
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: is pretty consistent bowl team. You go from satisfactory to striving,

497
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Speaker 1: which is a division or conference contender team that's sort

498
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Speaker 1: of top fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Ish, right, Yeah, absolutely.

500
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Speaker 1: Starting to get up into that rare.

501
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Speaker 2: Eight and four, nine and three somewhere in there. Yeah,

502
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Speaker 2: maybe ten wins with the ball. Yeah.

503
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Speaker 1: The first item on our list here, the first team

504
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Speaker 1: on our list is Florida State. Florida State will no

505
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: doubt be a hot talking point as we enter the

506
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Speaker 1: fall again, assuming there's a season. Yeah, but of course

507
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: made the coach and change going to Mike Norvell. The

508
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: Lillie Taggart thing did not work, fired unceremoniously before the

509
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: end of the season. Confirmed they were wildly inefficient on offense,

510
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: They had quarterback issues, they were undisciplined. Honestly, I have

511
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: no idea what the offense is going to look like.

512
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: If James Blackman's a starter anyway, I have no idea

513
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: what the offense looks like. We know they got to

514
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: get better along the line, we know they have to

515
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: recruit better. It's just sort of like a full rebuild

516
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: at Florida State. They're not starting from quite the same

517
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: depths as a team like Arkansas obviously much much better

518
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: starting point there, a much easier conference than the ACC

519
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: as well. But what is your level of confidence that

520
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: they can take that jump up? Let me say in

521
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: the next, well one year, so this year, this fall, Yeah,

522
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Speaker 1: they do it this fall. Can they get up to

523
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Speaker 1: top fifteen ish in one year?

524
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Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, And that's a combination of

525
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: what the roster looks like right now. Me still having

526
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: not a lot of confidence in quarterback and offensive line.

527
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Speaker 2: I have confidence in Mike Norvel and his staff getting

528
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Speaker 2: Florida State to competence just as a football program, which

529
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Speaker 2: a lot of the time they just weren't under Willie

530
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Speaker 2: Taggart and that staff that previous regime. So I'm confident

531
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Speaker 2: that they can get back to that point, that competence point,

532
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: which we I think played a game around that on

533
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: the twos cruise. I like the staff. I like you know,

534
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: they keep Odell Haggins and Ron Duggins on staff, which

535
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Speaker 2: I think is pretty wise for continuity's sake. They've been

536
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: there forever. But no, there's nothing to me that says

537
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Speaker 2: this is a big jump year. I think this is

538
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: a big year zero year for interesting.

539
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Speaker 1: I think I agree with you. Curious to see again

540
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: what the offense looks like under Mike Norville. West Virginia

541
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: another team here. Now it's can we really count West

542
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Virginia in the satisfactory category right now?

543
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Speaker 2: I think based on the totality of their last two

544
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: or three years, they look to be subpar for a

545
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: lot of the season last year. But I don't think

546
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Speaker 2: when I when I think about the health of West Virginia,

547
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: I don't look at them as like an Ole miss

548
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: or Arizona. Even with as bad as you know, year

549
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: one under Nill Brown was I really like Neil Brown.

550
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: We both do, and statistically they did get better as

551
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: the season war on. So at a minimum, yeah, they

552
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: were fighting in every game, the games were closer. Austin

553
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: Kendall though not the answer at quarterback.

554
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was. Austin Kendall was there. He

555
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: was hurt all year essentially too.

556
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel very confident about West Virginia

557
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: taking this jump.

558
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm a little more confident. They got a little bit

559
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: out of youth. Sam James was nice at receiver at times.

560
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: The defense, I think it's gonna take a bit. They're

561
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: replacing a chunk. I'm I don't feel great about it,

562
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: but I don't. Again, this is echoing what I said

563
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: earlier about the Big twelve. There's not a lot that

564
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: scares me right now. The weird thing was that their

565
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: offense was as bad as it was. They finished the

566
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: year what beating Kansas State and TCU and being right

567
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: there against At least the defense was decent against Oklahoma

568
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: State to finish out the year. So I at least

569
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: not that you know, finishing out the year with you know,

570
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: supposed momentum is anything that important, but they prevented big

571
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: plays on defense. There's something at least to build on there.

572
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: For West Virginia. I think they're going to improve, and

573
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: maybe they'll improve to only solidly satisfactory if they're sort

574
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: of in that satisfactory subpar gray area. So I think

575
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: there will be They will be solid lea a Bowl team,

576
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: and they just won't be as hopefully disgusting on offense

577
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: at times.

578
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Speaker 1: Col.

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Col's interesting. They need Chase Garber's to not get hurt.

580
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: They need yep a week a week Pac twelve to

581
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: jump up to that level. I don't think it's probable.

582
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: I don't think they can get Evan Weaver back for

583
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: another year. That would help. But Justin Willcox is pretty

584
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: good as a defensive mind. They've been pretty good defensively

585
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: under him, so I've been really good defensively.

586
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I again, I I'm not confident they can get

587
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: quite that high. But I always feel like I'm a

588
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: little higher on col at the start of a year

589
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: than you.

590
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: Ty. I have breaking news. Yes, we have no idea

591
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: what the PAC twelve North is gonna lie in the fall.

592
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: If you run through the division. Washington has a new

593
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: coach and QB is TBD. They should have a good defense.

594
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: Washington State has a new coach, QB TBD. We don't

595
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: know what they're gonna look like. We know Nick Rolovich's system,

596
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: but we don't know Washington State is going to look

597
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: like Oregon new quarterback, new offensive coordinator, new offensive line.

598
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: We have no idea what that offense is going to

599
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: look like. Oregon State new quarterback certainly seems to be

600
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 2: moving in the right direction. It's Tristan Jebia presumably taking over,

601
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: but again, we have no idea. They've done really well

602
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: in the transfer market. Stanford Davis Mills kJ Costello is gone.

603
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: They took a huge step back last year. We have

604
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: no idea. You look at Cal. They make a change

605
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: at offensive coordinator with Bo Baldwin leaving. They bring in

606
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: Bill Muskraveh has been in the NFL forever and played

607
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: at Oregon. I don't think they have dudes on offense,

608
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: but everybody they did have who was good enough when

609
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: Chase Garber's was healthy, is back, and right now that

610
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 2: sort of solid ground feels promising. I don't know about

611
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: fully striving to win the no, but with how good

612
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: they've been on defense, and yes they lose their safeties

613
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: in Evan Weaver, I think Cal's in a really nice position.

614
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: I like Kel.

615
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: I think they're starting. I don't want to talk about

616
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: reluctantly crouched at their starting line is a good spot.

617
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: Reluctantly crouched at the starting line.

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00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: Thank you again. You gotta warn me so I'm I'm ready.

619
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Speaker 2: You're just you're good at You're a pro.

620
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: I also think Tennessee's in a pretty good spot to

621
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: jump tiers.

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Speaker 2: Have you looked at Tennessee schedule?

623
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Speaker 1: That was gonna be my next That was amazing. That

624
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: was gonna be my next comment. They do have Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama,

625
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: and Georgia this year, Okay, which is difficult, Dan.

626
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it definitely is. But in terms of what

627
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: it could be, they always have Alabama in the Cross Division.

628
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: But who else do they have from the West? Yeah,

629
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Speaker 2: it ain't bad, Dan there what are their SEC road games?

630
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: And this is not a Tennessee preview, but this is

631
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: just an evaluation of cake tears in Tennessee. Okay to

632
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: s road games? Are South Carolina a down team, We'll

633
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: see if they can bounce back, Arkansas a down team.

634
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 2: We'll see if they can bounce back. Georgia. Yeah, it's

635
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: gonna be tough, but we don't know what to expect

636
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 2: from Jamie Newman, I guess at quarterback and Vanderbilt. No,

637
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: Tennessee's schedule is awesome. Now Charlotte's bowl team and they

638
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: made moves in twenty nineteen. The Paladins of Furman always dangerous, tie,

639
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: but otherwise to get Florida missoo with a new coach, Alabama, Kentucky,

640
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: Troy all at home, the experience they returned Juwan Jennings

641
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: obviously gone at receiver, but getting Tray Smith back. On

642
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: the offensive line, they lose a chunk, but they've recruited

643
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: well on defense. I'm not going to fully dive into

644
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: the Tennessee pool of hype. I am just saying the

645
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: pen in which we are baking this cake tie is sturdy.

646
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel pretty good about Tennessee. Okay, I feel

647
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: pretty good about their situation. They played hard last year.

648
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: I feel great about this situation.

649
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's there. I think it's there. I

650
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: want to talk about k State though. So K State

651
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: was an interesting story last year, not only because they

652
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: beat Oklahoma right that was obviously a big deal, but

653
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: got the new football coach. It was meaningful for us

654
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: because Chris Climbing came down from North Dakota State. Remember

655
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: we went to go see a game up at North

656
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: Dakota State in the frigid temperatures of Fargo, North Dakota

657
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the twenty eighteen calendar year. So

658
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: when Chris Climbing came down to work with an athletic

659
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: director that he had known from North Dakota State, it

660
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: was interesting to us. Chris Climbs had a ton of

661
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: success as a Chris climb had a ton of success

662
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: at North Dakota State. Could he build a similar program

663
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: at K State?

664
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: Ky State kind of packed it in after they beat Oklahoma,

665
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: kind of packed it in.

666
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: They were scrappy and fundamentally pretty good. Kind of packed

667
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: it in after Oklahoma. I think it goes without saying

668
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: that they need a lot more explosion on offense, but

669
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: top fifteen ish consistently that feels like a bridge too

670
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: far for me, at least for now. I like Chris

671
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: Kleiman is still working in his guys and still working

672
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: with guys from the previous regime. They finished eighth in

673
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Big twelve recruiting, but they signed a bunch of three stars,

674
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: and I think the plan, as I understand it, is

675
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: to try and mold those three stars into higher level performers.

676
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: It's not quite the same situation as North Dakota State,

677
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: where he sort of got the best of the best

678
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: talent from the upper planes, kids that maybe were like

679
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: tweeeners and could have gone and played D one or

680
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: could have gone and played FBS, but decided to go

681
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: SCS instead. Like he was able to successfully recruit those kids,

682
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: and over time he built up a really successful program

683
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: that had a lot more talent than most of the

684
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: other teams they played. That's not gonna be the situation here.

685
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: If it's gonna thrive in Manhattan, Kansas, it's gonna thrive

686
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: because you can turn a number of those three stars

687
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: into four star talents on the college football field.

688
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kansas State seems like a situational success story when

689
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: certain powers are down. It's really good that Kansas State

690
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: can be good, and they took advantage. They were at

691
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: their best. I think what twenty eleven and twenty twelve

692
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: junior and senior years of Colin Kline. You look at

693
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: that twenty twelve team, I think they scored fifty points

694
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: like seven times, which seems a crazy long time ago.

695
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: So I think the twenty twelve Big Twelve was a

696
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: little bit better at the top. But twenty eleven was

697
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: kind of a mess for the conference. That was the

698
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: last season if you remember of A and M and

699
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: mis Zoo in the Big Twelve. So just a lot

700
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: of changes in upheople there, and Kansas State was just

701
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: a good team and took it advantage. I'm not a

702
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: big believer in Skyler Thompson. I think he can be fine,

703
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: but the year one offense, there's a lot of questions

704
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: at receiver. I don't see a lot of pop from

705
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: this Kansas State team, and I think they need that

706
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: pop in the conference still, even with the dynamic of

707
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: Baylor winning with defense and you know, just a lot

708
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 2: of changes. You know, West Virginia takes just a giant

709
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: slide down on offense. TCU looks completely lost on offense.

710
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 2: You know, you don't know what you're gonna get from

711
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: Texas week to week. Kansas State, I guess they have

712
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: an opportunity to make a move, but I'm not a

713
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: big believer in their current talent level on offense to

714
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: give me any sort of pop. Although their quarterback coach

715
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: is Colin Klein, so maybe there's some of that DNA

716
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: or something. But right now, I think Kansas State is

717
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 2: sort of in that what do we say, it's satisfactory

718
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: to striving. I think they're status tithing. I think they're

719
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: just in that purgatory right now, and I don't see

720
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: the pop to really get them there unless there is

721
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: there are unforeseen disasters around them in the conference.

722
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: All right, two more tiers here, Yes, striving to super

723
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: So this is again top fifteen ish conference contender, ish

724
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: to playoff mainstay, or at least in the conversation.

725
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's late November and we're talking about different

726
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: levers and pulleys to get them in their machinations. Whatever.

727
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: We've got Michigan and Auburn in here, but I've got

728
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: Oregon boulded because I want to hear what your thoughts

729
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: are on the Oregon Ducks where they're at now as

730
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: they enter the twenty twenty seas and Mario Crystal Balls

731
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: had some time in Eugene to kind of implement his system.

732
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Of course, they lose Justin Herbert, Yeah, which is going

733
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: to leave a mark. They're starting a rare quarterback. But

734
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: what is the status of that Oregon program and how

735
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: likely do you feel a jump is anytime soon?

736
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to see them against Ohio State in

737
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: Week two, so we'll have a decent enough sense of

738
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: what I assume. Tyler Schuck will be the starting quarterback.

739
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: He's been there a couple of years. Everybody's getting used

740
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: to the new Joe moorehead offense, so that feels like

741
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks are sort of on an even playing field.

742
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: But he seems to be the answer. I'm concerned about

743
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: the offensive line, but not crazy concern because they've recruited

744
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: well there and given Mario Christo Ball's own background there,

745
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: I think they should be good upfront, just not incredible,

746
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: which is where they were this past season. They're going

747
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 2: to be led by their defense. They return essentially everybody

748
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: important on defense, and their schedule is pretty incredible. I

749
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: know they start with two incredible programs, North Dakota State

750
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: and Ohio State, but both in autsin and then you

751
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: look at their road slate with in the conference cal

752
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: Arizona Wazoo, and it is never easy to go to Wazoo,

753
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: even with the first year coach in Oregon State, and

754
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: it's a very strange ending. All they have to do

755
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: is be above average and creative on offense, and I

756
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: still am not in love with the skill level on

757
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: offense though we'll see what Tyler shuck. Because the defense

758
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: is going to be incredible tie the event is going

759
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: to be amazing. So in terms of their distance to super.

760
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: Which by the way, which by the way, is not

761
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: something over the last ten years we've gotten used to

762
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: saying about Oregon.

763
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 2: No the twenty twelve, twenty thirteen that was a really

764
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: nice stretch for Oregon's defense, but I don't think on

765
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: the level of what it can be given where they've recruited,

766
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 2: bringing in two five star linebackers this year, I'm going

767
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: to say they have closed the distance. They have closed

768
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: the distance, and it's thank you both because of how

769
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: they've recruited and because of I mean, who's the threat

770
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 2: in the pack twelve right now? Who is keeping them

771
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: from that conversation? They have Ohio State and North Dakota State,

772
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: and surely it's true, but I don't with that schedule.

773
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: With what I think people should be encouraged by Joe

774
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: Moorehead and what he was able to do as a

775
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: coordinator at Penn State, I think they've really closed that

776
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: gap Michigan and Auburn. Auburn I'm I feel pretty good

777
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 2: about because we talked about the changes in the SEC

778
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: West and they've been a top tenish recruiting program these

779
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: past few years. I don't know how great I feel

780
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: about bo Nicks, but I think similar to Oregon, I

781
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: like Chad Morris as a coordinator, I and the continuity

782
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: on defense feels right. They were basically the team to

783
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: figure out LSU's offense in twenty nineteen Michigan. I think

784
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: they're just firmly entrenched as striving. Okay, and that's I

785
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: think largely because of quarterback.

786
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: Right now, if Oregon goes up to that super tier,

787
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Let's go negative for a second here, and

788
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: let's say one of them, one of these six teams

789
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: has to be relegated LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson

790
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: or Oklahoma. So a common thread among four of these

791
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: teams that they lose their starting quarterback LSU, Alabama, Georgia,

792
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma going to be starting over a quarterback in

793
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: some sense. Alabama they also lost Scott Cochran strength coach

794
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: talked about that a couple of weeks ago. M HM,

795
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Clemson to me are the two intriguing

796
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: ones here because I don't I don't know how to

797
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: answer the question. We have mused for a while that

798
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: if something like Brent ve Venables were to leave at

799
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: some point, that maybe that would be the catalysts to

800
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: take them down a peg. Recruits been so strong, so strong,

801
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: that it's hard to believe it would just trail off.

802
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: But that's at least something you can identify that would

803
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: have a real impact. But the one that I actually

804
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: have a harder time trying to figure out is Ohio State,

805
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: because if it was going to happen, it would have

806
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: happened last year amid the coaching change from Erbi Meyer

807
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: to Ryan Day. But now alas here we are. Ohio

808
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: State was very, very good last year, is the answer.

809
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: Injuries is the answer. Justin Field's going pro after next year? Like,

810
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: how do you even come up with a situation in

811
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: which Ohio State would not be part of the conversation

812
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: in the foreseeable future.

813
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 2: I don't have a good answer. I think Ohio State,

814
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: of all these teams, is probably best positioned. There are

815
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: a couple of reasons why I could see them losing

816
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: out on playoffs or going down to simply a ten

817
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: win team every year. And they got a taste of

818
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: the NFL coaching with Chip Kelly, and I think what

819
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: Philly and San Francisco. Sometimes, when you win a ton

820
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: on a certain level, you want to see what you

821
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: can prove on the next I'm not going to say

822
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: Ryan Day's an NFL guy, but he's from New Hampshire.

823
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: He didn't grow up in a college football hotbed. Maybe

824
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 2: he wants more of the NFL, and maybe they screw

825
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: up a transition to a new head coach in a

826
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: couple of years or something like that. Maybe it's they

827
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: just revert to the excellent but have one weird weak

828
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer level Purdue Iowa whatever, and that keeps them out.

829
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: But that's still like an eleven and one t So

830
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't have a good answer for Ohio State Oklahoma,

831
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: it's their defense. And maybe Lincoln Riley it seems his

832
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: name seems to come up, which doesn't always feel like

833
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 2: an accident. Coaches who are just like I have no

834
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: interest in the NFL, their names come up less. Georgia

835
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: is hard to see, but I understand Florida's emergence in

836
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: the SEC could make things complicated for Georgia getting back

837
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: to the SEC title game consistently. And they've kind of

838
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: messed up at quarterback, and we'll see what Jamie Newman

839
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: does for them. But I like the Todd munkin Higher Alabama.

840
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: There's no flaw immediate flaw to me, especially with a

841
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: little bit more continuity with songs. Staying LSU is interesting.

842
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: They've been in this conversation for a number of years.

843
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: They only really made the move in twenty nineteen, and

844
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: so it's a matter of these other schools have done

845
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: it more often recently, whereas LSU maybe they're just a

846
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: bright shooting star in twenty nineteen and then they go

847
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: back to being a ten and twoish team moving forward,

848
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: because I don't know how much confidence there is right

849
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: now at quarterback and that they can continue what they

850
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: started under Joe Burrow and Joe Brady. So to me,

851
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: the interesting one though, might be Clemson. Okay, reluctantly crouched.

852
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: I just loved the beginning of that song, the starting line.

853
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: Do you have a picture in your head? You mentioned

854
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: Brent Venables leaving. I think they've reached the point where,

855
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: even if Venables were to leave, that they've reached Alabama

856
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: like status of they'll have their pick of basically any

857
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator who wants to coach exclusively three deep blue

858
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: chip talent against a weak conference.

859
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: Right right right.

860
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is unless it's what happened

861
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 2: in Syracuse a couple of years ago or three years

862
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: ago now, where it's just quarterback injury and it's weird

863
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: situation where they'd take an early game lightly. You have

864
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: the North Carolina game. This past year. We've seen the

865
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: near loss and I think it was an overtime game

866
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: against NC State or the pit game, But that's one game.

867
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't see them falling to a nine to three

868
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: ten and two program anytime soon because of the talent level.

869
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: But it is it is strange where if Florida State

870
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: gets good, if Louisville gets pretty good and they beat Clemson,

871
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: that could be it for Clemson's chances to get to

872
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 2: the conference championship game. So you have like a weird

873
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: at eleven in one, yeah, I mean it's been out

874
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 2: of the playoff, yeah, So I think.

875
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: It's more likely that if there is any kind of slide,

876
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: it comes from the inside as opposed to the outside.

877
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: It's going to take a while till Florida State or

878
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Louisville or any of those teams can catch up to Clemson.

879
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: You know, even if they beat them with a stroke

880
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: of good luck on some given Saturday, like, they're still

881
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: not going to consistently be on that level. I think

882
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: it's more likely. And I remember I was on Larry

883
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: Williams show YEP noted Clemson writer Larry Williams, and he's

884
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: been on our show as well. Yeah, and this is

885
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: a question that I've discussed with him, like what would

886
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: it take to essentially slide back a teer? And his

887
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: answer was it's it's probably not a talent thing, and

888
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: it's probably not an injury thing because there's so much talent.

889
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: If anything, it would be coaching, It would be coaches

890
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: leaving a mass to go elsewhere, upsetting the chemistry that

891
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: Dablosweeney has built as an organization as a program. But

892
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: it does not seem likely anytime soon. And you know,

893
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: I hate to even talk about it in these hypotheticals

894
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to keep it positive today, as you know,

895
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: right of course. But I guess if it's going to happen,

896
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: it would be some sort of turnover among the coaching staff,

897
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: and I guess a lack of chemistry, a breakdown in

898
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: culture of some sort.

899
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 2: There are, depending on your view, there are three and

900
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: a half to four and a half teams in the

901
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: ACC who have been pretty down during this incredible run

902
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: from Clemson, Louisville, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Miami, North Carolina.

903
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,959
Speaker 2: So I think that adds up to like four point

904
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: one dangerous teams at different times depending on the day

905
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: in the quarterback. That that's intriguing to me. Not that

906
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 2: they're going to be able to beat Clemson, all things

907
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: being equal, but if Clemson has a weird scheduling quirk

908
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: with short week on the road at Syracuse, at North Carolina, whatever,

909
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: against a decent quarterback, we've seen that takedown clearly superior teams.

910
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: I think it is all circumstance. I really really with you.

911
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: I think it's circumstance within the conference more than it

912
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: is internal.

913
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I understand it. I just.

914
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: I don't know everybody finds a Michael Cunningham.

915
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: All right, Well those are our tiers. Our cake, our

916
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: college football cake has been so baked here now on

917
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: the show, we've gone from sad to subpart A satisfactory,

918
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: just driving to super and back down to striving. Hypothetically, Dan,

919
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: can we get back to the saccer and suite, the

920
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 1: saccer and sweet?

921
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually, before we actually talk about Cake, do you

922
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: like Cake? The band?

923
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: They're Okay?

924
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: Have you thought about them recently?

925
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: I thought about them because I saw the Google doc Okay,

926
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: and you know, going the distance, and.

927
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: Have you about them in the last three to five years?

928
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: Not for any prolonged period of time. I remember hearing

929
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: the Distance on my satellite radio, okay, maybe like a

930
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: year or two ago, and I was like, all right,

931
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: I remember this song, but no, I don't pay too

932
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: much attention to Cake.

933
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: They had the opening song and Forgetting Sarah Marshall, another

934
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: ass Sarah Marshall, and I saw them in the theaters

935
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: and that song was great over some sort of Dolby

936
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: sound system. I think it's my favorite Cake song. Love

937
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: You Matt, love You Madly. That is probably my favorite

938
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: Cake song. I like the trumpet, I like the singer's voice.

939
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: I like at least let Me Go is another good one.

940
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: Short skirt, long jacket. They do enough for me where

941
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: if I listen back to Cake, I think that's different

942
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: enough that I respect the success they carved out for

943
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: themselves themselves.

944
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: I want to get to I want to I want

945
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: to talk about actual Cake though real quick. Here, just

946
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: to close out the show again, Solid verbal at gmail

947
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: dot com. If you have anything you'd like to get

948
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: off your chest, have anything you'd like to get off

949
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: your chest, you can always feel free to drop us

950
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: long and we read all the emails. We had a

951
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: rather spirited discussion, did we not. We did super secret

952
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: g chat this week putting this show together. We had

953
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: a rather spirited conversation about cakes. You, Dan Rubinstein, think

954
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: that a lasagna is a cake. I said, a lasagna

955
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: is a savory cake. You said, it's a cake, a

956
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: savory cake. Yeah, you still said it's a cake. Yeah,

957
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: it's a it's a cake cousin. It's the savory cousin

958
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: that lives in the big city. Lives in the big city.

959
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: Well, think about it. So cake, I mean you cook

960
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: them in the oven. That does not mean it is

961
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 2: a cake. It has layer doey layers, right, filling between

962
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: the layers. Okay, it is topped with something different and

963
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: that gives it a unique texture, frosting and cheese. But

964
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: it's not a dessert, Dan, I said, it's a savor cake,

965
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: just like a chicken pot pie is not a dessert.

966
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: There's a separate species of items cooked like cakes that

967
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: are just dinner items and do not fall under the

968
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 1: cake specification.

969
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, and it's not the same species. But

970
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: you look up the phylum, you look up the genus, okay,

971
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: and it's Cacus italianis.

972
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: So this is like both hawks and ducks are birds,

973
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: even though they're very different.

974
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: Totally Okay, yeah, this is it's a cousin. It's a

975
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: distant cousin. But in terms of construction and how you

976
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: eat it and what it looks like coming out of

977
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: the oven, I think there is the general blueprint is

978
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: there for each being distant cousins? I think alasagna is

979
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: a savory cake.

980
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: This is the Italian food version of asking if a

981
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: hot dog is a sandwich, or if cereal is soup?

982
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: Cereal is soup? Right, exactly right.

983
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna stand by it. Lasagna is savory cake.

984
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: No disagree?

985
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: Hard Are you a cake person?

986
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: I like cake?

987
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: Do you? I'm not gonna go cake versus pie. They're

988
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: two different foods pie. Are you? I know you're a

989
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: pumpkin pie person. Are you generally excited? I don't work

990
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: in an office the way you do. And again, your

991
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: spans many continents, sure, known and on. Are you excited

992
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: when it's somebody's birthday? Like there's cake in the breakroom? Ummm?

993
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: And when you go in there have a slice? Are

994
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: you happy that you did it? I'm never happy that

995
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: I did it?

996
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm never happy that I did it, because you always

997
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: get that two pm sugar crash, right or three pm

998
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: sugar crash where that's when you regret it and it's

999
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: a bit of a struggle to make it through to

1000
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: the end of the day.

1001
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: Well, it's just like, yeah, that slice was exactly like

1002
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: every other slice I've had in this situation.

1003
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: Give me, I'm a place of music. Give me your

1004
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: top five cakes to close out the show. Oh, thank you,

1005
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: a little music for you. Go ahead.

1006
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about it, and I thought, I'm

1007
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: not a cake person, and then I realized I'm just

1008
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: not a birthday cake person. My number five like a

1009
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: good upside down cake, orange pineapple. I'm big on citrus.

1010
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: I love citrus. Number four a pound cake. Most of

1011
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: my pound cake experience is limited to entemens, but damn

1012
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: does entimates make a pound cake. Number three? Any lava

1013
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: cake will do. Okay, something that I am taking a

1014
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: spoon to that's hot and I'm breaking it open, and

1015
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: something runneth over.

1016
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: Okay.

1017
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: I love a good lava cake. Number two. Any kind

1018
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 2: of coffee cake. There's a crumble factor, there's a really

1019
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: nice flavor factor, and coffee cake is just doesn't have

1020
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: to be coffee flavor, but cinnamon factor. Love that my

1021
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: number one cake is probably and this goes back to

1022
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: my love of citrus. I think a lemon cake I

1023
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: don't want. I don't want. I don't want frosting on

1024
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: any of these. Lemon cake can have a little bit

1025
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: of icing. In a bunt situation. My number one cake

1026
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: might be lemon I love. I love the lemon flavor type.

1027
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: Some that you left out, well, no, no, I didn't leave

1028
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: out those are my favorite. You can't correct me.

1029
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: Some that you left out, Dan, I'm correct.

1030
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: Tell me your favorites.

1031
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: I have a list, it's no particular order.

1032
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: I do like.

1033
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: Red velvet cakes very good.

1034
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: Is this your number five?

1035
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't do the rankings like you did.

1036
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't have strong opinions on cake other than did

1037
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: say that Lazani is not cake.

1038
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: When you thought about this, did you know or did

1039
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: you look up what red velvet is? No? No, I

1040
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: know what this is. Okay, I just make it. I

1041
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: didn't know the difference between chocolate and red velvet, and

1042
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: it's very subtle. But I learned that there's it's cocoa

1043
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: and cocoa powder, cocoa butter, and there's like a vinegar.

1044
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: Factor, red velvet up for consideration. A really good carrot

1045
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: cake to be can be very very good, Okay, can

1046
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: be a contender, terram Asu.

1047
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: Not bad, creamy, very creamy. Yeah, you like that puff factor.

1048
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: Cheesecake deserves at least a mention.

1049
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: Here, may I I'm going to take a little step

1050
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: into this conversation. I think a cheesecake is a pie.

1051
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: I'm going it's called a cake, Dan, if you are

1052
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: going to step on my savory cakes called a cake.

1053
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: I know it's called a cake, but people listen to podcasts,

1054
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: not on iPods, sometimes the name is not It sort

1055
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: of misrepresents what it is. I think cheesecake is a poe.

1056
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: This is where you're going to say chicken pot pie

1057
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: or shepherd's pie.

1058
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: No. Continue, But that's just I'm just throwing it out there.

1059
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm taking exception with that categorization.

1060
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: Next, the last one I have written down here is

1061
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: I've had very few good ones. Okay, but a banana

1062
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: cake could be very good. So like a banana cream

1063
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: banana cream or sort of like almost like a banana

1064
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: nut bread cake. I've had something like that.

1065
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: Is it Is it like loaf form it? Sometimes?

1066
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: Yes, it can be formed kind of like.

1067
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: But it's a different sheep. See banana bread to me

1068
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: seems like cake. Yeah, because it's just a loaf cake,

1069
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: right right, Okay, just some items, sure your consideration. So

1070
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 2: is there is there one that you would I would

1071
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: probably put carrot cake in here. So if it was

1072
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: a birthday meal, you'd be most excited for your meal.

1073
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: To conclude, I think the ceiling is higher interesting with

1074
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: carrot cake, but it's got to be good. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of bad carrot cakes out there that was unexpected,

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Speaker 1: but carrot cake. I just I don't know a lot

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Speaker 1: of carrot cake lovers think it's you and Mindy Kaling. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I know that. Now I really

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Speaker 1: want coffeecake right now, all right.

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Speaker 2: My mind is, go at your coffeecake if you can

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Speaker 2: get out, Okay, I will.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that does it for the show. Hope everyone out

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Speaker 1: there is uh staying safe, enjoying their time listening to

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Speaker 1: this show. Concluding in a very awkward fashion here as

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Speaker 1: we talk about our favorite types of cake after doing

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Speaker 1: a cake themed college football show, as always soliverble at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That is the email. You can finder

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Speaker 1: website all of our old stuff out at solid verbal

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Speaker 1: dot com. You can also go on out to the

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Speaker 1: subreddit solid verbal dot reddit dot com. Join the conversation

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Speaker 1: long after the bell, and do follow us on social

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Speaker 1: media Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, all the usual hot spots. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Dan and I are excited about the next few months

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Speaker 1: in soliverbal In Soliverbleville, You've got some exciting things that

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Speaker 1: are on the horizon, so do stay tuned for that. Again,

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Speaker 1: I would I would just say everyone stay safe out there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for downloading the show, and thank

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Speaker 1: you for embarking on this journey with us. Yeah, wash,

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Speaker 1: wash your hands, wash your hands for that guy, Well

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Speaker 1: then you think you need to over there, my good

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Speaker 1: friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty hilden Brand, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for downloading the show. Will catch you on

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Speaker 1: next game. In the meantime, stay solid, hey,