WEBVTT - Falling for Socialist Chic 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:06.920 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:11.040 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.280 Armstrong and Getty and he. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.360 Armstrong and Jetty. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.440 Coming up later in the show, a couple of intriguing 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:33.240 in not two terrifying stories about AI plus some gender 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.320 bending madness. But it's always a pleasure to talk to 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.440 lonhe chenln He is the David and Diane Stephi Fellow 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.400 in American Public Policy Studies at the Hoover Institution and 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.760 the Director of Domestic Policy Studies at Stanford University. 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:47.920 Lon he Welcome, How are you. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:49.600 Joe, A very good morning to you. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.680 Also, among your credentials, you are a big Dodgers fan 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.200 and executive producer Mike Hanson is convinced the Dodgers are 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.440 not to be sold and fall apart financially. 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.240 He would be completely wrong in that assumption. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.000 Ah, everybody roots against the big dog. You have to 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:07.600 put up with it. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:12.360 So you know, in the words of the great was 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.480 it whoever it was that called the last game of 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.320 the World Series, you know, to beat the champ you 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.400 got to knock them out, and nobody's knocking out the Dodgers. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.320 This year they win three in a row. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.319 The revolution is coming from Major League Baseball, though the 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.600 proletariat pregan to rise up in the streets. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.440 All right, So let's talk to little politics. 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.240 And you know, us getting too far in depth into 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.119 a primary election where four hundred and thirty two people 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.840 showed up to vote, and trying to extrapolate that to 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.840 some giant movement I think is just silly. But in 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:49.240 the recent primaries there have been some kind of intriguing result. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.279 What do you think is the most significant one? 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.920 Well, I still think it has to do with the 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.560 nationalization of our politics, Joe. And the reason that we 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:04.520 care about the Wisconsin governor's race or the Minnesota Senate race, 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.480 or races that otherwise probably wouldn't have a whole lot 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.680 of impact for people who don't live in those states, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.400 is because of what it means for our national politics. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.720 And I think, particularly on the left, if you look 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:20.600 at the energy behind a lot of the progressive democratic 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.680 socialist candidates, and I get it, not all of them 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.880 self identifies democratic socialists, but in my book, if you're 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.440 in favor of the government takeover of healthcare, you know 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.639 you're pretty much a socialist. And I think that that's 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.000 what we've seen from people like Abdul Sayid in Michigan, 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.239 or Francesca Hang and Wisconsin or others around those various 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.720 Midwestern states. And again the reason we care is because 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.160 of what it says about where the energy is in 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.560 the progressive movement and what these races tell us about 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.160 national Democratic party politics. So right now it does appear 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.959 to be with the far progressive left, and I think 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.560 that's the lesson. Even though you know, Democrats I think 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.919 dodged a bullet with Francesca Hong apparently losing last night, 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.359 I do think that they that's where the energy is, 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.200 and if you look around, you know that's where the 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.120 success has been. And I think it'll be very interesting 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.200 to see how much of that remains as we get 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.000 past the twenty six midterm cycle and start talking about 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:14.760 twenty twenty eight. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.760 Right, the Francesca Hong thing, and this is the sort 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.480 of every man analysis, So you get here as opposed 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.639 to in Lanhi's world, if she hadn't been a half wit, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.800 she'd a one. I mean, she lost by a fingernails. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.520 She was an embarrassing candidate in a lot of ways. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.840 She was the left version of some of those MAGA 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.440 candidates that were so terrible a couple of cycles ago. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.000 Yeah, well, she it was interesting that she and Mike 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.720 Lindell of my Pillow fame were in the you know, 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.720 sort of running on the same day basically and had 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:47.920 elections on the same day. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.520 And they're both caricatures. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.680 I think of whether it's the MAGA right or in 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.280 Francesca Hogg's case, the far progressive left. 0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:00.720 But you're absolutely right about Hong. If she had, you know, basically. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.960 Gone underground for the last two weeks of her campaign, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:04.240 she might have won. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:05.560 Actually she would have. 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.680 She would have been better off going underground than giving 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.360 the interviews she gave, because what the interviews exposed was 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.720 that the far left caricature in her case wasn't actually 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:16.440 a caricature. 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.400 It was actually the truth. Right. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.839 I mean, you have somebody who's talked about, you know, 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.159 getting rid of Thanksgiving and you know again government takeover 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.240 of health care, you know, being totally comfortable with all 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.080 of the you know, sort of politics of twenty twenty, 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.240 as I like to think about it, the woke politics 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.159 of twenty twenty, being totally comfortable with all of that, 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.160 and the interviews just showed that she gave some disastrous interviews, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.000 and you're absolutely right. If she was even a tick 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.320 better of a candidate, you know, she probably wins. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:45.440 That wins that election. 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.440 So let's look next door at Minnesota. I was surprised 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.880 that the lieutenant governor, Penny Peggy Flanagan beat a pretty 0:04:54.040 --> 0:05:01.640 solid centrist Democratic candidate, Angie Craig, because Minnesota become a 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:07.599 laughingstock essentially for their horrific levels of fraud per capita. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.320 California will make them look like amateurs when all the 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.679 accounting has done, And she was sitting at Tim Walz's 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.080 side as all this was going on. You know, my 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.680 analysis is if you're a progressive and you blame everything 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:26.080 on either white people or capitalism or whatever, you never 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.760 look in the mirror. But I was surprised that the 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.760 lieutenant governor of such a scandal plague, I mean, Tim 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.080 Wawls was gonna run himself, but he couldn't because he's 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:35.880 so scandal plagued. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.159 I couldn't believe she won. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.560 Well, again, we have to think about the where the 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.400 energy is in the Democratic Party, and I think particularly 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.480 in Minnesota, that was the center of a lot of 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.040 I mean, not just the fraud stuff, but you. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.120 Know, all of the the. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.960 Police involved shootings and all the things that we've seen 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.080 over the last couple of years. Minnesota was the epicenter 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.200 for that, and I think in some ways what it 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.039 did was to galvanize the left to move even farther left, 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.000 rather than trying to come back to the middle and 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.760 trying to say, look, how can we address some of 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:11.040 the challenges that have been created by the failed Walls administration. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.960 Instead of that, they went further left. And actually, I'm 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.080 not surprised that Flanagan was able to win there because 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.279 I do think again, it's where the energy is, and 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:25.360 the movement in Minnesota was particularly acute because they sort 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.880 of see themselves, you know, with all due respect to California, 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.120 they sort of see themselves as the center of the 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.919 anti Trump resistance. And I think that's why that electric 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:36.080 moved even further left. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.640 So I want to talk about the Republicans in a second. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.880 But how seriously do you take the prospect of Abdul 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.360 al said winning in Michigan, winning a United States Senate state. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.920 You know, I wouldn't underestimate the guy. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.560 I mean, if you look at his ability to articulate 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.640 a message in a very you know, I don't happen 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.680 to agree with the message, but I think that he 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.800 can articulate a message in in a pretty compelling way 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.640 to people who you know otherwise don't follow politics as closely. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.200 Let's say, you know, I think that Mike Rogers, who 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:14.080 is the Republican Senate nominee in Michigan, is probably very 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.960 excited to run against Abdul Sae because of his positions. Particularly, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.280 I think he's particularly vulnerable on his positions with respect 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:26.080 to taking away healthcare by replacing it with this government 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:26.720 run system. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.720 I do think that is a particular vulnerability for ol Saeed. 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.840 Not to mention his association with people like Ilhan Omar 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:37.000 and AOC who might be appealing again to the progressive left, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.000 I don't think they're appealing to the vast majority of michiganers. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.920 So I think Mike Rogers is definitely in a much 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.920 better position because he's running against al said. But I 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.400 would not underestimate the Democrat in that race, just because 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.560 you know, he's good on TV, and he's compelling and 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:54.640 knows how to articulate a message. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:55.880 Well, Donnie ask in a lot of ways. I want 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.120 to talk maybe next segment after we bid you goodbye 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.800 on he about the whole Medicare for All and how 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.200 that's really fraud, how it will eliminate private insurance fraud. 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.040 It be covered so it's utterly fraudulent. We'll explain why 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.960 in a second, but let's take a look to the right. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.960 Does the Republican Party have any idea what it is? 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:15.920 Yeah? 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.880 I mean, for all the challenges that the Democratic Party has, 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.920 I think that one of the challenges on the Republican 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.360 side is that, you know, we have, for the last 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.400 I don't know, as a movement, probably at least for 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:31.080 the last decade, certainly been a party that's been very 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.440 closely associated with a single person, and that's Donald Trump. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.400 And I think the question becomes what does the party 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.079 and the movement look like as we start to think 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.120 ahead to twenty twenty eight and you know, when they'll 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.400 be a new set of candidates. And I think that's 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.520 a question that we've got to grapple with now. I've 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:52.320 always maintained that the movement, the Republican conservative movement, what 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.360 do you want to call it, is that its strongest 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.640 when we're thinking about a series of ideas about how 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.240 to improve people's lives. And what I worry about a 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.560 little bit is that we've fallen too much into the 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:06.920 politics of personality versus the politics of ideas. And I 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.720 would hope that whoever the next nominee is, whoever wants 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.840 to compete for that nomination. And I don't I don't 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.880 have a particular view on, you know, where that's headed, 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.360 but I'll just say that whoever does it, I really 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.560 hope that they focus on, you know, one of the 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.200 ideas that are going to make this movement durable for 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.320 the years to come. I mean that that's where I 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:24.719 think that the party needs to go. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.200 Yeah, I'm a big Marco guy, which we'll be talking 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:28.440 about next half hour, I think. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.040 But you know, it's funny. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.280 I was just going to say, I heard recently that 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.480 the difference between a hack and a writer is a 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.200 hack writes what he thinks his audience wants to read, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.640 and a writer writes what he actually feels and thinks. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.120 And I was just going to ask you, and you 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:48.600 parsonally answered this. But and I have talk show host privilege. 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.040 I can spout high minded ideas and principles and quote 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:52.880 Thomas Jefferson. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.480 But I never have to win an election. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:10:00.760 Okay, you know, I'm not tasked with with winning election, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.160 and if we don't, I lose my job. 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.040 So it's easy to be high minded. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:10.360 But having said that, is the roadback for the Republican 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:14.440 Party to coherence and relevance and persuading people to come over. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.440 Is it less about being a hack and more about 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:19.720 a set of ideas. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.439 I think hackery always ends badly. 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.720 Pandering always ends badly, although it'll always be a part 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:28.400 of politics. 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:33.240 Yeah, I mean, I think the best combination is ideally 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.480 you have great ideas and a great way of talking 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.359 about them. And you know, I mean, for all of 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:43.280 the the sort of discussion about Newt Gingrich in the nineties, 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.240 I mean this is like well before the time of 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.840 maybe some of your listeners. But if you go back 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.240 to the Contract with America, and you know, Newt had 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.840 a way of really talking about those ideas, and all 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.800 of those ideas were you know, sort of solid conservative 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:00.480 ideas if you will, but he would you know, he 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.400 managed to package them up and talk about them in 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.640 a way that I think a lot of people found compelling. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.319 And when you combine good ideas with a good message. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.240 That's sort of the holy grail of politics and policy. 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.920 And so that's really where we've got to go. It's 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.160 not just about having good ideas, because I think good 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.720 ideas are great, But to your point, good ideas alone 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.520 are not enough to win an election. They just they're 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:23.880 just not in this day and age. You have to 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.800 be able to communicate. And that's why if you look 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.880 at the left, for all of the bad ideas that 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.880 the far far progressive left is talking about, medicare for all, 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:37.920 free grocery stores, you know, getting rid of basically elements 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.800 of private enterprise. The reason why you know those are ideas, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.120 and the reason why people have really given the far 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.840 progressive left another look is because they've been able to 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.160 communicate those ideas. And so whatever it is that Republicans 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.760 and Conservatives decide to do next, the one thing I 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.800 hope they'll do is I hope they'll marry strong ideas 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.800 with in some ways what President Trump has been able 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.440 to do, which is to communicate effectively, and now he's 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.840 communicated his own agenda. But I guess I would say 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.800 the lesson learned from that is you can communicate about 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.240 these ideas in a way that is very compelling and 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:12.840 powerful to people. So you've got to figure out how 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.000 to combine all these different forces. And whether it's Marco 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.120 Rubio or JD. Vance or whoever it might be next, 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:18.880 that's they're going to be their challenge. That's going to 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.160 be the fundamental challenge of the next couple of years. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.400 Lani jen of the Hoover Institution, Stanford University a lot. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.680 He it's always enlightening. Thanks a million for the time. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.280 Good to talk to you, sure, Joe, good to talk 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:28.480 to you. 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:30.080 More to come stay with us. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:39.959 You know, we don't get into a lot of policy 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.840 wonkiness around here because it's a little dullish and would 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.960 put us out of business. But I did want to 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.800 touch on this really quickly because I found it enlightening. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:51.480 For what it's worth, my wife and I are just 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.280 short of medicare age. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.160 We'll be there soon, god willing. 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:00.320 I'm only dimly aware of how it works, and a 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.200 lot of the folks falling for his socialist cheek, whether 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.760 they're Abdul l si aid and as followers or whomever, 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.199 are running around talking about medicare for all, among other 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.000 things like free childcare and an eight percent wealth tax 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:17.800 on billionaires and stuff like that, and some of the 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:22.800 goals that they speak of, good housing, good healthcare, affordable food, 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.160 basic dignity of life. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.120 Okay, nobody disagrees with any of that stuff. 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.920 But it's worth mentioning that this guy who earned a 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.680 doctorate in public health from Oxford, for God's sake, and 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.400 his wife is a practicing psychiatrist, which means she has 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.920 a medical degree and refuses to take Medicare, which is hilarious. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:48.000 He knows all this stuff, he says. 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.600 He actually authored a book Medicare for All, a Citizen's Guide, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:55.680 and it said it would eliminate private insurance. But the 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:00.080 catchphrase Medicare for all is misleading what he poses. This 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.800 isn't universal Medicare, but a single payer system with no premiums, deductibles, 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.280 are cost sharing, and no alternatives, and Medicare has all 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.160 of those things. All seniors who don't also qualify for 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.559 Medicaid have to pay a monthly Medicare Part B premium, 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.840 starting it a couple one hundred dollars in tied upward income. 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.160 Seniors who enroll in traditional Medicare fee for service also 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:23.120 have a about a seventeen hundred dollars deductible for inpatient 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.960 hospital care, steep cost sharing requirements, and no limit on 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.040 out of pocket spending. They also have to purchase separate 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.560 prescription drug plans, whose monthly premiums range from nothing to 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.680 about two hundred and forty bucks depending on income. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:36.520 That's per month. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.640 Another forty percent of seniors in traditional medicare by supplemental 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.840 insurance policies to cover benefits like dental and vision care 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.040 that are not provided by the government, and for protection 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.080 against catastrophic costs because again there's no out of pocket limit. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:56.960 There's all sorts of private insurance involved in medicare to 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.920 make it worth an s. It's a it's a good 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.720 thing for seniors, no doubt, But the idea that hey, 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.520 we're gonna have Medicare for all, which means you don't 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.120 have to have private insurance just a lie. We would 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.000 end up with British style universal healthcare where you have 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.600 to wait, you know, six months to get your cancer 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:19.040 treatment started. And that's as nightmarish as it sounds. Not 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.680 that our current healthcare system isn't screwed up. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.320 It is. It's so screwed up. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.400 We're gonna talk to Craig, the healthcare guru, about that, 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.960 I think tomorrow. But Medicare for All is it's a canard. 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.240 It's a sham. It's a scam, like virtually everything they do. 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.240 I mentioned casually to lanhe Chen that I'm a Marco 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.120 Rubio guy, until talked out of it. He did an 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:44.440 interview the other day. It was really something. We're gonna 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.040 play you a couple of bits of that and then 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.320 squeeze and whatever else we can. As always, if you 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.720 can't stick around, grab it via podcast Armstrong and Getty 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:52.160 on demand. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.360 Armstrong and Getty. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.840 Top did rfkiet diet of red meat. 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.160 This is a diet that consists of eating. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:04.920 Sauer kraut and meat. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.240 Now you understand, like this is not a sustainable thing, 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:09.880 Like you can't just walk. 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.640 Into it because he imagine he has to travel with 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.000 coolers of So I'm not going to travel the world 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.720 with a cooler full of sauerkraut. It's ridiculous. I can't 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:19.920 do it. It's not sustainable. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:25.200 That is Marco Rubio commenting on RFK Junior's Wackydoodle diet, 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.840 and the interviewer followed up with the next clip, Michael, 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:29.720 are you Maha. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.080 I'm in favor of Maha, like I think people should be, 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.440 but I think ultimately he. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.320 Is completely not pop tarts. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.880 No, I don't need pop tarts every day. Okay, you 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:41.600 eat sweets. 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.840 Pop tart is one of the great American innovations in history. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.000 Do you think about it comes to. 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.480 Beautiful for all the things you should not be eating, 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:49.840 every single thing. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.560 That is his wife, Jeanette sitting in on the interview 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.840 with Marco Rubio calling him out. That is hilarious. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:03.040 Jack is fond of repeating the absolutely undeniable wisdom that, 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.560 with few exceptions, in an election, the person who is 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:14.479 more comfortable in their skin wins. They beat the person 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:19.480 who seems to be trying to be something because that's 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.200 so hard to pull off. Hillary was the ultimate example 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.000 of that. I mean, look, no matter what you think 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:33.720 of her, crazy, smart, tough, mean as a snake, yes, yes, yes, 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:42.240 Secretary of State, I mean credentials, but she always acted 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.200 like she was. She always seemed like she was putting 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.359 us on or trying to be something she wasn't. So anyway, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.800 a little more with Marco Rubio, and hey, I'll admit 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.760 it's true, I would like him to be president. 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:56.679 I wanted him to be president for a while. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.880 Maybe you'd disagree, but he is a very like chap 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:01.600 Let's see what. 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.880 I don't want to do too many of these. Let's 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:05.479 do thirty two. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.040 You said to Lard Trump if you had a day off, 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:09.680 that you would watch football all day. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:11.640 I answer the question completely wrong. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:13.160 Why. 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.280 Well, first of all, the right answer is I would 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:17.680 spend it with my wife going on. 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:19.800 Oh yeah, okay, beautiful answer. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.040 But the true answer is, and here's why I messed 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.240 up that answer. Okay, because here's the thing. The day 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.480 would actually start much earlier. The greatest show on television 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.800 today in America is College Game Day. Great show starts 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.040 around ten or eleven, and that leads you to noon 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:34.800 and then the noon game, and then there's a three 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.600 thirty game, and then there's a So I messed and 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:39.320 then the idea like this is a crazy weekend. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.280 It would never happen. So I'm just putting this out there. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.399 But you could start at ten am on Saturday, you know, 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.200 run the whole college football day, sleep for a few hours, 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:48.879 then you wake up, and then you're in the NFL 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.119 game day. Then you got the one o'clock game, the 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:55.320 four o'clock game, the NBC game that night. That is 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.160 an incredible weekend in my opinion. In my view, obviously, 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.639 I don't believe that ever I will everage this, certainly 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:02.920 not in the next two and a half years or 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.439 what have you. But and your audience probably doesn't care 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.120 anything about what I just said. But I'm just telling 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:09.760 you that that would be a crazy day. But that's 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.959 never going to happen, right, well, yeah, right, you never know. 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:15.680 I should say. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.280 He's on the Katie Miller podcast though, and I'm enjoying it. 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:19.960 It's a good. 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:23.520 Interview, solid interview, and Katie does a nice job. One more, 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.320 I like the looks of this thirty three Michael. 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:28.400 So, I have a dog. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.280 We have two dogs, and then we have one that's 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.520 really smart. You know, these are golden doodles, but this 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:35.040 one's more poodle than doodles, so than golden. 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.440 Very smart. Knows how to open the door. 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.360 So one day I think Pete and his family were 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.560 just sitting around watching television and they keep their front 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.040 door open because they have cats, which I never took 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:46.880 Pete for a cat guy. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:48.399 But okay, oh my god, and. 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.840 So and anyway, and my dog just walked into their 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.240 living room and looked around, realized I'm in the wrong house, 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:57.440 and turned around and walked out. 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.159 But yes, so our dog does open the door. 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:06.639 Many Georgans pete hegzeth cat guy, I would not have 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:12.160 guessed that. Huh okay, well that's you're right handsome. That 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.880 was that was nice. It was endearing. Does he want 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:20.760