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Speaker 1: The NBA Finals are here, and we finally have the

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Speaker 1: matchup we anticipated prior to recording last week's episode. In

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Speaker 1: a very unlikely near comeback, I will say, uh, I

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Speaker 1: was sweating a bit. I did put the pampers underneath

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Speaker 1: my armpits to absorb all of the sweat. And we've

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Speaker 1: got the nuggets. We've gotten the heat and we'll go

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Speaker 1: into the series expectations and more with Nugget beat Rider

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Speaker 1: TJ McBride. See that's a little bit of hip hop

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Speaker 1: for you on today this episode. I'm Miles Gray and

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack O'Brien and this is Jack Jack Ship Dakers.

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Speaker 1: Got there. You go and be driving Spinny Curry a

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Speaker 1: three bad stop Curry from downtown again, be honest with

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Speaker 1: the Okay, shoot time, what you go?

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Speaker 2: Yes, what happen? And everyone yea heat nuggets? A joke

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Speaker 2: about like what it? What is this lunchtime? Heat nuggets?

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Speaker 2: What is this instruction for frozen food? Heat nuggets?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Has officially been done? Has been done?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: You heard my mixtape straight heat Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: Somebody even put in case Miami wins this like here's

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Speaker 2: my draft and like weted it out like a week

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Speaker 2: before it actually happened, so we've all been beat to it.

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Speaker 2: I was going to come up with that joke on

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Speaker 2: my own in like four days. So okay, yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: But first, let's welcome TJ. McBride. Are very team Jay. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so DJ, you're from La, right, yes?

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Speaker 4: Originally yep.

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Speaker 1: And then you came up as a Lakers fan.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I did, born and raised Lakers fan, watching Derek

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Speaker 4: Fisher hit point three second shots, growing up on Kobe.

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Speaker 4: That was my entire childhood. Kobe roud La and that

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Speaker 4: was everything that we ever knew was basketball people, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Win here today, fantas and then. But but now you

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Speaker 1: now you find yourself covering the Denver Nuggets for almost

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Speaker 1: a little over a decade now, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Pretty damn close to a decade now. I think it's

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Speaker 4: like nine and a half, ten years. I think I

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Speaker 4: think July is ten years, so it's it's a long time.

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Speaker 4: When you say it like that.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So you've you've seen it all.

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Speaker 4: I was there for you just for a Summer League

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Speaker 4: game in Vegas. I've seen the very very very start

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Speaker 2: And you saw it coming from the start. I remember yeah,

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Speaker 4: King Sorito will be the second most impactful thing in

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Speaker 4: that screen right there. Yeah, that's crazy that you go

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Speaker 4: back to that summer league. He was abnormally good, like

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Speaker 4: doing these preposterous things on a basketball court even back then.

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Speaker 4: That was what twenty twelve he was doing that. So

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Speaker 4: it was absolutely insane to see him come here, but

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Speaker 4: no one thought he would be the MVP back to back,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's insane to see where he come from

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 2: So I've been saying I've been posing this question to

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Speaker 2: look heading into the finals obviously could change like they

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Speaker 2: might be the best NBA team I've witnessed since the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I All season long, I've been saying that

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Speaker 4: it's felt all season long, and even in the playoffs

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Speaker 4: it's felt exactly the same way. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: Now on the other side of the versus sign a

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Speaker 2: massive underdogs, but they just felt like something inevitable, like

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Speaker 2: the series. I picked the Heat in seven just based

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Speaker 2: on the mathematical pattern of Boston went to six in

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Speaker 2: round one. They had no right losing that series or

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Speaker 2: And it did, even though I forgot that and thought

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Speaker 4: I thought it was done. I thought there was no chance.

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Speaker 4: It was like the extremely slow object hitting the extremely

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I.

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Speaker 2: Will say I don't have the same feeling of you know,

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Speaker 2: the people are sleeping on the heat here heading into

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Speaker 1: That feeling for me would have been at its height

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Speaker 1: y'all got nothing for this because what I what happened

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Speaker 4: And as much as being elite, there's there's no mistakes

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Speaker 4: They have the lowest turnover percentage in all of basketball.

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Speaker 4: In the playoffs right now, they just continually machine through

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Speaker 4: you surgically and there's just nothing you can do about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, buzz Saw is the machine that I've heard them

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Speaker 2: compared to the most. But let's talk about so. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Boston did make it extremely interesting. The second half of

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Speaker 2: think Charles Barkley said it at one point that like,

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Speaker 2: Boston's gonna win every time. Yes, And it seemed like

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Speaker 2: while and then things slowed down in Game six. But

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Speaker 2: Game six was epic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that that game winner from Derek White almost

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Speaker 1: I almost ruined a family trip. I was so devastated

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Speaker 2: Me a Celtics Game seven, and that that game six

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Speaker 2: game winner was of course after Jimmy Butler did what

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Speaker 2: Like I still just feel like I'm seeing something that

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Speaker 4: If it's a cheesy anime world where he's like finding

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Speaker 4: who's gonna pick against Butler doing this like they are

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Speaker 4: But that Ain'tkle looks bad like he had no pop

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Speaker 4: in Game seven at all, and I'm worried about seeing

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Speaker 4: Butler try and turned corners going into this after seven

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Speaker 4: game series in altitude against Denver in Game one of

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Speaker 1: Altitude is believable.

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Speaker 2: I think the altitude is being underrated a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I talked about it a lot in the Lakers series

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Speaker 2: because as somebody who experienced altitude climbing a volcano a

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Speaker 2: this is like hangovers, Like this is one of those

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Speaker 2: this could be bad. And then Jimmy always looks gassed

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Speaker 4: Or he'll get hurt and rolling ankle and suddenly find

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Speaker 4: his jump shot. Like the guy plays never I've never

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Speaker 1: Like Yeah, he's like Maximus and Gladiator. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I don't know, out of kind

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Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 4: You're like, what all The altitude thing is so interesting though,

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Speaker 4: because I've talked to so many people about it after

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Speaker 4: covering a decade of hoops in Denver, and every single

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Speaker 4: one says a different thing. Like some say, oh, no,

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Speaker 4: you just have a quick like first wall, you hit

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Speaker 4: a altitude and the second you push through it, then

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Speaker 4: you're usually fine on your second wind, and that takes

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Speaker 4: five six minutes in the first quarter. Other people say

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Speaker 4: it destroys them. Some say they don't feel it at all,

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Speaker 4: like the Nuggets love to steer into it. Even says

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Speaker 1: Yeah see, And again I shown my ignorance and it

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Speaker 4: But I can understand how they get there in a

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Speaker 1: Who more fundled?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? That's what? You're not really good that the Nuggets are.

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Speaker 4: I want to say on this, Matt Moore made a

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Speaker 4: This isn't surprising. It's the ones who are usually television based,

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Speaker 4: games do know. They're just not the ones on TV

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Speaker 2: Ye, I saw everything I needed in the bubble. I

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Speaker 4: Indicator of who a player is in the bubble.

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Speaker 4: These are that same Jamal Murray a couple of weeks

436
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 4: ago too, So you definitely aren't feeling that anymore.

437
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 1: No, No, I was like, oh no, Lise, I mean

438
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: to that, like, you know, where where? How did you like,

439
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 1: where did you predict the Nuggets would be? Did you

440
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: are you saying they were going to be in the

441
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: finals this year? Winning?

442
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 4: So on the Nuggets going to the finals this year,

443
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 4: I just knew what they needed, and they needed a

444
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 4: perimeter defense and dog who can actually fight and keep

445
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 4: guys in front of them, because if you can do that,

446
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 4: you could just no longer that your defensive liability. And

447
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 4: if they can shoot threes and handle the ball like

448
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 4: KCP and Bruce Brown can, that gives you more optionality.

449
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 4: You can attack in different ways and you have the

450
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 4: defense to back it up. Now with my experience in

451
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 4: the postseason with defensive rating, but they are point six

452
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 4: points away from being fit. So this is not just

453
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 4: like some mid level defense. This is a team that

454
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 4: has been putting together exactly the process that they want

455
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 4: to play with, can play multiple different styles and have

456
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 4: stopped Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, Lebron James, Anthony Davis, Anthony

457
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 4: Edwards all the way down the list. So this is

458
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 4: a defense that can really defend now and that's been

459
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 4: one of the biggest differences.

460
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: But to be fair, you picked the Nuggets to win

461
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 2: the title the last six seasons, right, I did not.

462
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: I did not think.

463
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 4: I didn't grab Nuggets fans, so don't. I don't have

464
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 4: a whole lot of hope. And I honestly didn't think

465
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 4: they were ready until this year.

466
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I mean, one thing I have to

467
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: ask is somebody who watched Anthony Davis try his best

468
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: to try and car jokicch and at the time, I

469
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: was like, man AD's defense is something else? What I

470
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 1: mean from your perspective, as you know, like I hate

471
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: to sound like a court side pundit, but what did

472
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 1: the Heat have to do to to to handle the

473
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: Nikola Jokic question? Is it that Kevin Garnett thing I

474
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: saw him say. He's like, I'm coming after boom, non stop,

475
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: make him run, try and gass him out. Is it

476
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: like or are you saying there you cannot defeat doctor Manhattan.

477
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 4: You can. There are ways to make Yokic uncomfortable. The

478
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 4: Heat don't have the ability to do those things. You

479
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 4: need to put layers of big bodies in front of him,

480
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 4: and that's why you saw the Lakers put Ruey on

481
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 4: him and put Ad on Gordon and just put bodies

482
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: after bodies between him and the rim. You can't do

483
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 4: that as the heat. We need to put Caleb Martin

484
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 4: on him, pull Kevin Love off the bench like Hayward

485
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: high Smith isn't gonna check Yokic one and be able

486
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 4: to box out. You can't do that as the heat.

487
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 4: Even if I do like some of those guys, and

488
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 4: I think Bam out of Bio is a top three

489
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,239
Speaker 4: defender in this league pretty much. Inarguably. I am one

490
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 4: of the biggest BAM fans. But I put some clips

491
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: on Twitter. It doesn't matter, like Bam at a bio

492
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 4: can do everything he wants. It does not matter. He

493
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 4: is lacking an inch of height and about thirty pounds

494
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 4: of weight and a whole lot of leverage that Jokic

495
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 4: has that he does not. He's been able to go

496
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 4: right through the one on one, So I don't know

497
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 4: what you do at that.

498
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: Point, right. Yeah, it's to the point where I'm thinking

499
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: of AD like you know how, like Michael Jordan started

500
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: working out after that Pistons defeat, Like AD needs to

501
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: go like work with horses or something to serve you,

502
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: and I feel like a solace like the horse. Yeah,

503
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: get on, get a get on, get on that program whatever,

504
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: because it's working. Yeah, but there's not.

505
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see a lot of like NBA

506
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: players start adopting what Jokic does, like chilling with horses

507
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: during the off season, just to like try and.

508
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 4: The Nuggets have been doing this. I always asked on

509
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 4: a radio show at it earlier, who's the player who's

510
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 4: benefit the most from Nikola Jokic, And I said Aaron Gordon,

511
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 4: Because Aaron Gordon has spent his entire time in Denver

512
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: learning to see basketball through Nikola Yokic's eyes. He went

513
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: and just traveled the world during the offseason, met Jokic

514
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 4: and I believe the Czech Republic to watch the Serbian

515
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 4: team play international basketball, and just like sent some love,

516
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 4: continued to watch film and came back with the intention

517
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 4: of seeing the game through Jokic's eyes. And we've seen

518
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 4: who the player he's become. He's no longer trying to

519
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 4: pretend he's Lebron Like, this is a guy who can

520
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 4: help any team in basketball and be a third or

521
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: fourth guy on a championship team. So it's Jokic impacts

522
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 4: people and the way people see the game in a

523
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 4: way that you just don't see.

524
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that helped his three point shooting.

525
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, wellieve he's not having to take jackup shots off

526
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 4: the dribble with the guy in his face. He can

527
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: sit in the corner.

528
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: Now.

529
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say people are still somehow sleeping on Denver,

530
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: like the so in this series Miami, so Miami were

531
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: plus four hundred heading into the Cellde series, which you know,

532
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: that made them one of the biggest underdogs in the

533
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: conference finals in years. By the way, heading into the

534
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: playoffs they were plus six thousand to make the finals.

535
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, now they are plus three hundred against the Nuggets,

536
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: and I guess that's probably because you know, people just

537
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,239
Speaker 2: saw them beat Boston and everyone thought Boston was But like,

538
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: that doesn't a track to me at all that you

539
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: would be a bigger underdog versus Boston than Denver when

540
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: we've seen what Denver just did to the West. Like

541
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: that feels silly to me.

542
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 4: It feels a lot like there's a lot of sharps

543
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 4: who are out there trying to get value by picking

544
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: Miami early and has moved the line. That's what that

545
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 4: feels like to me. Because the Nuggets have been substantially

546
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 4: more favored than the Heat for a lot of the

547
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 4: books throughout, but as we've gotten closer and closer to

548
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: the series, it seems like people are starting to overweigh

549
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 4: the Heat because I think there's some big bets going

550
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 4: on the Heat, So I wonder if that's part of it.

551
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: And also I think like more of you know, the

552
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: betting markets are determined by betters and who's putting money where,

553
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: And just the Boston Miami series was very high profile

554
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: and went to seven, and you know a lot of

555
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: people were watching that more recently so.

556
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 4: And Denver's had nine days showing at home. You could

557
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 4: get back to Serbia and come back in this.

558
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is our first gambling advice. I would say

559
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: Denver is undervalued a little bit.

560
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not financial advice, though, don't.

561
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 4: Take me for financial advice. I chose journalism for a career.

562
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 4: Did you not take financial advice from me?

563
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: Or as we're podcasters?

564
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: So what do you what do you think? I mean,

565
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: it sounds like we've got your pick. It's probably like

566
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: heat in six or seven. Despite that, what uh is?

567
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: There?

568
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: Is there anything Miami can do at this point? You

569
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a sweep. You think it's gonna

570
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: be like five six much.

571
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 4: Respect for Jimmy Butler and Eric Spolstra to call sweep.

572
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 4: I think this is gonna most likely be a six

573
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: game series. I'm leaning closer to five, but I'm gonna

574
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 4: give Spolstra and Jimmy Butler a game or two without

575
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 4: a doubt, probably two. But when you start looking at

576
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 4: the battlegrounds, the turnover battle is going to be huge.

577
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: Both of these teams thrive scoring in transition. Denver has

578
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 4: the lowest turnover ratio in the league, so they're not

579
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: gonna turn the ball over very often, which is gonna

580
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 4: hurt the heat. But it do happen to end up

581
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: getting destroyed in passing lanes, that'll be a big boost

582
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: for Miami.

583
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: That was one nice thing that Boston did is that

584
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: they they gave them the ball at which is really

585
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: nice and like, you know, care a sign of character

586
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: I think.

587
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 4: Is it is you have to be able to let

588
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: everybody thrive sometimes. But I also think the three point

589
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: variant is going to be fascinating because if they just

590
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 4: shoot the lights out of the ball and they decide,

591
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: you know what we're gonna we're gonna guard youkich one

592
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 4: on them with bam. If you want to take twos

593
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: while we take threes, We're gonna live with that because

594
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 4: we don't know how else we can score you, and

595
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: we don't know how else we can be able to

596
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: keep up with Nicolie. If we're gonna send two Adam

597
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 4: so I think that's gonna be an interesting part of

598
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: this as well, is can they just outshoot them? And

599
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: the Tyler hero thing is interesting. Everybody keeps talking about

600
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 4: Game three Tyler Hero could that make a big difference?

601
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: And Tyler Hero is going to get cooked the Nuggets

602
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: when they played them in every single game. I watched

603
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 4: the last four years of Heat Nuggets basketball, and every

604
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: single time Tyler Heroes on the Florid, didn't matter who

605
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: had the ball, they were attacking Tyler. It was an

606
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 4: all out blitz to attack him. And while he did

607
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 4: get some shots up on the other end, you can't

608
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: have a defensive seed like that in the finals. You

609
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 4: just can't. And especially when he's coming off of injury,

610
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 4: you cannot do that. And when you put KCP and

611
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 4: Bruce Brown on them and say that's your guy, glove him,

612
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: it's gonna be very difficult for him to create space

613
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: and create any kind of impact.

614
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not try and bring him back. If

615
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: what we'ven in we're gonna.

616
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 4: End up here and they're gonna be like, we don't

617
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: have ball handling, we don't have shooting, we need somebody

618
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: else get Tyler Rough.

619
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like they the Miami Heat probably are

620
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: one of the teams least likely to make desperation moves.

621
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, wait, yeah, but Spoe also knows that if

622
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: he doesn't have options, he'll hit nuclear buttons. He'll do

623
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: whatever it takes. That's who Heat is and has always been.

624
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: Right.

625
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: How uh, the zone does not seem like it will

626
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: work out very well against Nikolajic.

627
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: And stats for you on the zone I looked at.

628
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: I was wondering right after the Heat were officially going

629
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: to be the finals opponent. That's the first thing I

630
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 4: looked up. The Nuggets were the number one offense against

631
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: the zone in the regular season. They scored I have

632
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: it right here, one point one five points per possession

633
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 4: on fifty six percent shooting and forty five percent from

634
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: three against the zone. This year and in the playoffs

635
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: they've been the best team against the zone as well.

636
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: So that would be a very rough call if you're

637
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 4: going to run a lot.

638
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: Of zone against them, which was what Miami did against Boston.

639
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: Boston should have been good against the zone, right they're

640
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: off there shooting, They.

641
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: Just evolved into your turn, my turn, had no cohesion whatsoever,

642
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: and just took a lot of really contested mid range

643
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: twos and three pointers that they weren't making. So there's

644
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: this is a real systematic defense that is going to

645
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 4: very specifically and intentfully attack this team against the Miami

646
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: Heat regularly. They're gonna know exactly what button's depressed win

647
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: depressed them entry in the series. It's not going to

648
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: be like Boston, who's like, we have more talent, let's

649
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: just sleep through it. Denver will not be entering the

650
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: series in that same way. So I don't think you

651
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: can compare the way that Boston played against that zone

652
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: the way that Denver is going to bus you got

653
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Speaker 4: yo kitchen the middle of the court, good luck and

654
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Speaker 4: dealing with that in the zone.

655
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: Miami could just be playing Boston in the finals. I

656
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: feel like they'd be.

657
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: That'd be a great I feel like I've seen that somewhere.

658
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: Just do that for them. Yeah, exactly, all right. Should

659
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Speaker 1: we take a quick break.

660
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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick one. Yeah, come right back for

661
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: the fastest segment in podcasting.

662
00:30:50,640 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: History after this and we're back. Yes, j McBride, Uh,

663
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: poor soul, you've wandered into the fourth quarter, rappid fire

664
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: round of questions.

665
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 4: This feels like when Sway does the five Circles of

666
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: Doom or whatever. Yeah, like, I feel like that's what

667
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: I'm getting stuck in round.

668
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: Get ready? Yeah, how's your freestyle?

669
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: They fall for it every time. Okay, they fall for

670
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: it every time.

671
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Play the Shook Ones Instrumental Classic Class. It was something

672
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 1: different today anyway. So here we go, TJ. This is

673
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: the fastest I guess segment in sports podcasting history. I'll

674
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: say that. I think I can say that quite confidently.

675
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask you a question. Don't think about it,

676
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: just answer, just reflexively, just chest pass it right back,

677
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: got it? Okay, And if we start dragging on, we

678
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: are entrusting you with keeping this entire segment moving. So

679
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: you got to cut us off.

680
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: Mountain Iron on the heart.

681
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: Don't give me this too much power. I'm going to

682
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: wield it. It is way too much fun too.

683
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: I can't say, well, guess what. We're gonna have a real.

684
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: Drug button in front of someone and say don't press it.

685
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: Hey, well you got the big red button, and I

686
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: hope you're ready. I'm Jack, be ready, I'm ready. Here

687
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: we go.

688
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: Where do you go first?

689
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go first.

690
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 4: Let's go, let's go.

691
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

692
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: This is.

693
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Speaker 1: My time, my quick.

694
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 4: Lost again coming back.

695
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: The problem this is this is Miles and Jack got

696
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: mad boost He's not.

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00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 5: TJ got a spicy mouth, all right, start back up,

698
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 5: TJ McBride, is there a single NBA player you would

699
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 5: take right now over the chance of taking web Yama

700
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 5: with the first pick this night?

701
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Wow?

702
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: That was quick after we just heard everything that this

703
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: man has said about Nicolo. Yes, he's still gonna take

704
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: we yes.

705
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Speaker 1: Just.

706
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 4: We weren't doing this. I thought this was rapid fun.

707
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: I came off the chest.

708
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Speaker 1: Asking a follow up question, which I believe is in

709
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Speaker 1: the byline.

710
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Speaker 4: I just we've never seen anything like this. This is

711
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: a beyond Lebron level prospect. I mean, you don't see

712
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: someone miss a three, follow it up, grab their own

713
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: offensive rebound and throw it back down. The guy is incredible,

714
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: and I believe in his body, the way that they're

715
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: actually working on his pliometrics and they're working on him

716
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: at his flex.

717
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: Well, we heard it here first sucks U TJ. We're

718
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: talking teams we want to cover in the off season.

719
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: Spurs are is shoe in because of the aforementioned big Ama.

720
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: What uh, what's the team you're expecting big things from?

721
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: We got Spurs, we got okay, see, we got the magic.

722
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: Who's Who's another team that people might be sleeping on

723
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: that we're gonna wake.

724
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: Us up, Wake us up?

725
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: The Suns. I know it's very low hanging fruit, but

726
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: you give an off season for Kevin Durant and Devin

727
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: Booker to figure things out and retool around them and

728
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: get eight and out of there, that's gonna be a

729
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 4: scary team no matter what. That team was not ready

730
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 4: for the playoffs this year. The Nuggets caught somewhat of

731
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: a break because they were so fresh together. And I

732
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: think now we're going to see a much scarier Son's

733
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 4: team next year than they were this year.

734
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: Maybe like we can plan out some like dates or

735
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: like some things that they can do together to build

736
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: something and experiences.

737
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

738
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, what's that golf that everybody does top

739
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: flight to top golf, top golf, I might say top

740
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: flight sad story.

741
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 4: I lost a golf club into the driving range last

742
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 4: time once the top golf never went back, like lost

743
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: it and it was gone. It might have been the

744
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: sweating from the beer. But that's neither here nor there.

745
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: Got it? Got it? I get that, TJ. Next question,

746
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Rose's hair.

747
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: Is that a question? Is the answer?

748
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, there was a I heard I heard a

749
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: question mark on there.

750
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: You heard me?

751
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

752
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 4: The answer is just no, and I'm gonna leave it there.

753
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: Wow.

754
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: No, no, wow, Okay.

755
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: You're gonna leave it there.

756
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: No elaboration, yeah, from I mean, the question was vague,

757
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: so I think the I know there is.

758
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: Dream in game commentary team who takes over? Body does

759
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 2: these finals?

760
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: Uh? Sadano sideline Doris Burke in the booth with Iron Eagle,

761
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: who does the nets call?

762
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Iron Eagles?

763
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: So good, so good, so good.

764
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 4: I've had enough. Brea. Although it was funny watching Jamal

765
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 4: Murray pointed him and screamed, bang last time you hit

766
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: was a moment right there.

767
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: I remember that a little too vividly.

768
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 2: I had a friend when we were playing a mule

769
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: ball who would always shot bang bang every time the

770
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: ball left his hand. Uh, every time, and he was

771
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: like a thirty percent three point shooter. So bang bang

772
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: bang bang.

773
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: Kind of okay. Next one, since you have la roots,

774
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you rank these three la chains in

775
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: and out fat Burger, Tommy's fat Burger.

776
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 4: In and out. Tommy's fat Burger is fastly superior to

777
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: most burger spots. And I will get shakes there anytime.

778
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: And magine Johnson is part of it.

779
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: And that's the king of La right. Okay, okay, that's fair,

780
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: that's fair. I like that.

781
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: Then we in and out?

782
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: Next? What are we doing in and out next? Okay? Wait? Well,

783
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: how come Tommy's is love? You don't like to check

784
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: in and out.

785
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: I'm just partial to it. I like the fries, it

786
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: in and out. I like to shakes it in and out.

787
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: Hey, look at that. Someone would taste who likes in

788
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: and out fries like me? Everyone comes for in and

789
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: out fries and I'm like.

790
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: They're like, what, you don't like natural potatoes? That's the

791
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: problem here?

792
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a floppy I.

793
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 4: Love me some in and out fries.

794
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: Go in and out for sloppy fries. Pour water all

795
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: over them. Uh all right. You can take any former

796
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 2: Denver Great, put him with this current group with the Nuggets.

797
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 2: Which former Great are you choosing to make a run

798
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: in today's NBA.

799
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Alex English. I want to pick

800
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 4: David Thompson, but Alex English would have been a little

801
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 4: bit more team oriented. It would have been a little

802
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 4: bit different with otherwise. But Alex English is a guy

803
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: who has watched the Nuggets team closely to he still

804
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 4: is a part of this organization in a loose sense.

805
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 4: So I very much so would think Alex Engler's that

806
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: scoring was out of this world. And you put a

807
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: wing like that next to Nicola, he'd be a little

808
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 4: bit he'd be Michael Porter Junior actualized.

809
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, follow that question.

810
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: How much does it bother you to see Russell Wilson

811
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: court side when he's uh sitting court side? Do you

812
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: think that that could like that's one of the potential

813
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: things that's making me believe in the heat is like

814
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: when Russell Wilson's court side.

815
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. So the la past of mine is a Raider,

816
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 4: is a Los Angeles Raiders pass. So everything Broncos needs

817
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: to burn, I'm done. I hate it. I may not

818
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 4: be get die hard without Raiders fan anymore, but I

819
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: hate everything to do with the Broncos still to this day.

820
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: So anytime I see any of that, I'm out. It's

821
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 4: the most annoying thing when Peyton Manning on the JumboTron

822
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: or Russell Wilson. The JumboTron is the loudest that it

823
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: gets in Ballerina. So I'm out on everything, Broncos, you

824
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 4: could have picked anyone out of a hat.

825
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: What's your favorite ball offering in terms of glass storage jars?

826
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: Oh, I actually have the Mason jars in my cabinet

827
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: as my glasses because I do the old school poor

828
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: thing of find him at the grocery store for like

829
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: six bucks. And this is a cup. So those ball

830
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 4: Mason jars are the elite cups.

831
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I got the big with the screw next.

832
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 4: To me, but I have all the lids and everything.

833
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: It's the way I just added that.

834
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: Question to He just added that question and now, and

835
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: he knew that was coming this one.

836
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: No where are we going, Jack or Miles?

837
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: What do you mean? I don't. I don't follow Jack

838
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: with everything else. This is going to be the way

839
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: we do this because I think that I'm going to

840
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: have to go Jabari.

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00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, you know what I answer?

842
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: All right?

843
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: Whatever whatever answer man, all right, all right, Taylor Jason McBride,

844
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: Taylor D J McBride, thank you so much for joining

845
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: us on. Miles and Jack got mad boosties. That was tough.

846
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: It's been so much fun. Where can people find you?

847
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: Follow you, read, you do all that kind of stuff.

848
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, just at tj mcbrod NBA. That's where everything goes

849
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 4: through on my Twitter. You'll see everything I do there.

850
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: I'll repost this whenever it comes out as well, so

851
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 4: you'll see everything that I do from that Twitter feed.

852
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: Go click on the link to this episode and listen

853
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: to it a second time.

854
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly the numbers boots exactly.

855
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: Shout out to our Boosti's listener of the week Matt

856
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: Chambers for the recent show review by the Way review

857
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: the show we we love reviews it helps people find it.

858
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: Matt Chambers said, title of the review.

859
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: That's exactly what you guys have been going for. Body.

860
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: You've avoided them all year in favor of more and

861
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: beads segments, But now you have to talk about the Spurs.

862
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: Jack Wemby's gonna bring the spur Is into another decade

863
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: long fifty game streak. I think also he was using

864
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: Jack the way that Joe Biden does, like as an

865
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 2: old person. I don't think he's talking to specific.

866
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: Hello Jack, it's like that kind of Jack.

867
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anyway, make sure you give us a fall

868
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 2: on Twitter at mad boost E's at m A D

869
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: B O O S T I E Y S.

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00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, And that's it.

871
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: We did it.

872
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: Another one in the books, a perfect Thanks for doing it,

873
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: and yeah, we'll check in with the finals with y'all

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00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: next week on more Miles and Jack Got mad boost.

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Speaker 2: E's when we have a new producer, because I'm tired

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Speaker 2: of this Jabbari. Who is this guy so called Jabbari

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Speaker 2: winning the Miles and Jack segment crap