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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast Podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Spreading the court. Ten seconds of maning. He just go

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Speaker 1: show under the basket, under the basket, it's the truth

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Speaker 1: for the wind god.

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Speaker 3: Amerracle.

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Speaker 1: I'm just sup the water hit that one from the

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Speaker 3: What's up the general nation? Welcome to the Big Bets

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Speaker 3: on Campus Podcast. This is the College Basketball Conference Tournament

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Speaker 3: Betting Preview Park five. I'm stuck you in. Joining me

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Speaker 3: today is none other than the one and only Mattie

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Speaker 3: Cox of the three man we've today, we are going

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Speaker 3: to cover the ACC, the Mountain West, the Mac talks

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Speaker 3: of Max, and then we'll talk high level on the American.

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Speaker 3: Also get Jim and Kay's thoughts on the next two episodes,

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Speaker 3: Part six and seven, which should be out shortly if

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Speaker 3: they're not already. Just because there's no bracket out there

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Speaker 3: some games today there's no odds out, so just get

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Speaker 3: high level thoughts. Also touch on anything that I like

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Speaker 3: in first round matchups or anything that pops up differently

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Speaker 3: once those odds and bracket are out. In tomorrow's episode,

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Speaker 3: which I'll be doing with what we record on Monday

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Speaker 3: with Greg and Mike, will cover the remaining conference tournaments

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Speaker 3: that start mid too late next week. So yeah, by

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Speaker 3: the you know, by Monday, late Monday night, you should

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Speaker 3: have all the conference tournaments covered. Maddie. It's the best

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Speaker 3: time of the year. Be ready to dive in.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. I've been a scooge in the past

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Speaker 1: about conference tournaments. I'm trying to I'm trying to change

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Speaker 1: my tune. So I'm trying to it and brace them,

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Speaker 1: embrace the chaos as we've already seen.

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Speaker 3: You're the You're the guy that just says, oh, we're not.

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Speaker 1: Going to don't like the European like, yeah, we should

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Speaker 1: do it, like the premium, the the e PL best

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Speaker 1: team should all be there. Let's stack the deck, which

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Speaker 1: is why I think I'm glad the Sun Belt Tournament

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Speaker 1: of Death format is gaining some traction. I hope more

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Speaker 1: and more, Lea, that's what we need.

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Speaker 3: So you're not I assume you're not a big fan

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not, which certainly although this year if there's

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Speaker 1: one year where it's like who the hell is actually

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Speaker 1: you know that much better? I guess Accron kind of

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Speaker 1: has been. But we'll talk about that. I actually don't

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Speaker 1: think there is dominant as they've shown so far this year.

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Speaker 3: I agree, So let's get right and it. We'll start

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Speaker 3: with the big boys. We'll start in the ACC where

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Speaker 3: Duke had a major run late against UNC to get

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Speaker 3: the number one overall seed in the ACC tournament. They'll

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Speaker 3: have a number one overall seed in NA tournament as well.

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Speaker 3: It would have been funny if Duke lost that game

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Speaker 3: and they would have had a one seed in the

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Speaker 3: tournament and the three seed in the ACC tournament. But

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Speaker 3: this tournament will take place in Charlotte. First round games

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Speaker 3: on Tuesday, championship on Saturday. The top four teams get

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Speaker 3: a double by into the quarters on Thursdays. That's Duke, Wake, Forest, Louisville,

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Speaker 3: and Clemson, and then you have the five teams. The

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Speaker 3: next five teams, Georgia Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, Stanford, and

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Speaker 3: SMU received single buyes to the second round. The bottom

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Speaker 3: three teams didn't make it, sorry BC, NC State in Miami.

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Speaker 3: The other teams that did make it that will play

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Speaker 3: Florida State, and Syracuse. So Duke is a big favorite here.

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Speaker 3: Looking at one book, they are minus three thirty to

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Speaker 3: and then you have then it just gets into long

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Speaker 3: Oddly enough, Lake Forrest is fifty five to one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: who they would face in the quarterfinals, right market kind

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Speaker 1: I think that's the one place i'd go if I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Stanford paper tiger. I mean, I like Renaud and

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Speaker 3: zero to eight. Their defense is ranked two hundred and

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Speaker 3: Clemson plus five fifty. I have empower rated ahead of Louisville,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Dargo great defender, very under one.

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Speaker 1: Of the He's been terrific lately too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, grim defenders in the country. They have an interesting

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Speaker 3: bad half court D. I think Georgia Tech really misses McCollum.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's coming back. Has he done

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been cryptic about his situation the whole year.

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Speaker 1: I mean without with that O'Brien, they just they don't

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, I remember watching Rody against Memphis look

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I can't see either one of those teams

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Speaker 3: Like I actually believe that they're They're lineup changes are

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Speaker 3: real now. They can't miss from three, but it's worth

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Speaker 3: against them either. Teams are shooting like forty from three, and.

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Speaker 1: I think they're a good shooting team, right. I think

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Speaker 3: Carolina and that's super slam spot. They Yeah, they couldn't

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Speaker 3: They couldn't beat Duke. Then in order to get to Duke,

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Speaker 3: then either Louis or Compton. North Carolina just hasn't proven

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I've I have no interest in North Carolina,

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Speaker 3: you know, looking elsewhere just to with which teams. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Wake Forest also they don't have any bench, right, which

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a believer in Clemson for the NCAA tournament

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it is Louis will be Clemson at home.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff in the ACC. Let's move on to the

431
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Speaker 3: one I'm most excited to talk about today. Let's talk

432
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Speaker 3: about some action the basic eight team format. Here the

433
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Speaker 3: teams that don't make it, Ball State, Central Michigan, Buffalo

434
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Speaker 3: and Northern Illinois. Bowling Green makes it after losing and

435
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: they're finale because Central Michigan went down to Northern Illinois

436
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 3: on a beat double overtime line drive pass that somehow

437
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 3: went in and Ball State was backed in their I

438
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 3: mean Bowling gram is watching in their arena and they

439
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: delayed their pressers and they're playing with free money, your

440
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 3: house money going in to Cleveland where this will take place.

441
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: Tournament will start on Thursday, quarterfinal games. Everyone plays Semis

442
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: on Friday. Championship on Saturday. Akron is the favorite plus

443
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: one thirty five Kent State plus two to fifty Mina,

444
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 3: Ohio plus four to fifty Ohio plus seven to fifty

445
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 3: Toledo thirty to one, Eastern Michigan forty five to one,

446
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 3: Bowling Green forty five to one, Western Michigan fifty five

447
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: to one. It is the MAC and it's a basic

448
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: eighteen format in Cleveland. So like if you wanted to

449
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: take a flyer on one of these teams, like I

450
00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: could never get mad at anybody, will I'll tell you

451
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Speaker 3: that I love Kent State.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your price? You just say, I'm looking at

453
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: like the Kent State prices right now. I just wish

454
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Speaker 1: it was closer to three to one. I know they're

455
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Speaker 1: charging it that they know. Yeah, I mean, I mean

456
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Speaker 1: we don't know. Ohio just have not been like they've

457
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: just been so dicey. Ohio's got the injuries. Toledo has

458
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: been just terrible defensively. I think there's rivers. A lot

459
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: of those guys are going portaling, so I wonder if

460
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Speaker 1: there's some quick factor there. Miami's good, is really good,

461
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: but they're bad. It's terrible. You know that you could

462
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Speaker 1: see them easily losing Toastern Michigan as much as actually

463
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Speaker 1: kind of believe in Miami low but I think they

464
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Speaker 1: have some real talent. I'm with you, it's all Kent.

465
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Speaker 1: The question is is the price right with Kent.

466
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Speaker 3: I mean the case for Kent is like I think

467
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Speaker 3: that they should be co favorites with Akron. I have

468
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: those teams right now val rated and Thoms are.

469
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Speaker 1: A half point. Yeah, I'm with you totally.

470
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Speaker 3: Yep. Both of those teams are super deep. You got

471
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Speaker 3: to win three games in three days. Acron small team,

472
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 3: very small team, super deep. Bari Johnson runs a show.

473
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: Nate Johnson's great too, but they just have they have

474
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: a ton of different options that they can go to.

475
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: They have the best offense in the league. They're fast,

476
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: they can shoot. I do think their defense has benefited

477
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 3: from some three point look and they can be had inside.

478
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 3: That's one of the keys against Kent State. I think

479
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Speaker 3: if Kent, if it is Kent State Acer, which is

480
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: the most likely matchup, Kent State should have won had

481
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: acher and they had that game in the bag. And

482
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Speaker 3: this is a different Kent State team basically since February first, Yeah,

483
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: and there's a reason for that. And since February first,

484
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: Kent's been the best team metrics wise, and they at

485
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: the best offense. There are one hundred and six per

486
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: Torvik overall like the next best in the MAXs like

487
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 3: one hundred and fiftieth. Their offense is fifty seven. Now

488
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: it helps when they start shooting thirty eight percent from three,

489
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 3: but their offense is just playing a lot more confident there.

490
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 3: They made some lineup changes. Morales got hurt. He was

491
00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: their worst offensive player, and the kel diad they of him,

492
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 3: which is a good thing. Burnett and someone have been

493
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: great and more minutes for them, and then you know,

494
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: same with Gilespie and then Sollinger has really found his

495
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: game and is shot and he's kind of a difference maker.

496
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: Then obviously you have your your bulk inside with Davis

497
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: and Hornbeak Camp. The other thing to keep in mind

498
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: is this is the best team in the league by

499
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: far away from home. They I don't know what this is.

500
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: All year long, Kent State has been horrendous at home.

501
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: I mean I was talking about this in December. I

502
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: mean you can go all the way back where they

503
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: barely beat Heidelberg at home.

504
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: Yep, so there was something Niagara by three. No, Yeah,

505
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: it's been a weird. It's been like an inverted home

506
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: court split team. You argue it's because their style does

507
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: travel well outside of home, but it just doesn't make

508
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: sense how bad they've been at home. But good news

509
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: is that this turn, it's just to add to your

510
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: cat points. I just love that Barnett, with Barnett and Sollinger,

511
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: that's what changed this team for me. It's like I

512
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: always knew Solinger was awesome. You know, he had kind

513
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: of those you know, is the head case where he's

514
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: coming back with the boomerang to to rejoin the team.

515
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: But with him and Barnett, like one of those two

516
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: guys is going to be hot any given night, right,

517
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: they both can. They're the vote streaky. But if you

518
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: have two microwave guys, one of your microwaves will be working.

519
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: It gives you that outside kind of game breaking balance.

520
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 1: But again, they don't have to make shots to win

521
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: because they're soaking on the glass. It gives you multiple

522
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: paths to winning ugly, they can win a high scoring game.

523
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: I think I can win multiple ways. It's the most

524
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: versatile team clearly in this field, in this format.

525
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: And usually turn into more half corps.

526
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: Exactly, and I think they're best suited to win that.

527
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: And it's what Akron used to be that they that

528
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: was their blueprint under you know the.

529
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: L E L E.

530
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, who is the stud for your guy?

531
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: Who's there for forever? They're big Rimp protector recently right

532
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: last year who just graduated from Akron. I'm blanking on

533
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: a uh Freeman, Yeah, Enrique Freeman. Right. But so, but

534
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: this Akron team is like pacing Space. It's a totally

535
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: different team. This current Acron team might be better analytically

536
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: than those teams, I don't think they're better for the record,

537
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: and they're just a different type of team. They're not

538
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: the type of gritty, physical team that was so successful

539
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: in the postseason formats the last couple of years Undergrows.

540
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: That's why I sort of like the fate of Akron

541
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: with a team that actually is the kryptonite to them

542
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: this year, much like Akron was last year. So yeah,

543
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you there.

544
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, Akron did sweep Ken, but they played

545
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: the first time they played.

546
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: Them, it was yeah, throw it out. I'm with you, yeah,

547
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.

548
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: And since February first, the only two losses for Kent

549
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: at Mina Bhio a game they had they were they

550
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: had that in the bag. They were up seven with

551
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: like a minute and a half to go, and then at

552
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: Akron they had that game in the bag. And I

553
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: don't know psychologically this is the team. Last year they

554
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: lost to Akron on a mistake foul with one second

555
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: to go in the MAC Championship, got swept this year.

556
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: If they get another crack at them, I think they

557
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: get it done. They struggle with turners the time, acing

558
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: doesn't really turn you over. They could struggle with fouls.

559
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: Akan doesn't really get to the line, and I think

560
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: they can have them inside and I think they're more

561
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: comfortable in a half court game. So yeah, I think

562
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: Kent is getting it done. I also don't believe in

563
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: some of these other teams. Miyams Ohio, for example, they're

564
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: home merchants. I mean, just look at their results home

565
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: versus away. They shoot like forty percent from three at

566
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: home and like thirty on the road. And they also suitor.

567
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: Their leading scorer got hurt last game.

568
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

569
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Speaker 3: I don't know his status, but that's worth mentioning another

570
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: home merchant Ohio team is so much better at Ohio.

571
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, ohiose yeah.

572
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: And I don't know how healthy they are. They've had

573
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: a ton of interests with three best players are AJ Clayton,

574
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: Aiden Hadaway, and AJ Brown, well best overall players.

575
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Clayton claims he's playing hurt though yep.

576
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: Yep, but he's not. I don't think he's fully healthy.

577
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: Brown hasn't played the past couple of games. Had always

578
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: been out forever. Now he warmed up for the first

579
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: time in forever. But I mean he hasn't played since

580
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: January seventeenth.

581
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: So Aaron, by the way, Sharif Mitchell, who know he is,

582
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: You know he's mostly healthy, but I mean Bowl said

583
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: a month ago he was playing through stuff too, because

584
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: remember he was out of the first few weeks. And

585
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: I think he's like maybe their most important player because

586
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: he's their best on ball defender and his offensive his

587
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: efficiency offensively has you can see the roller coaster kind

588
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: of indicative that he's not as So. Yeah, there's a

589
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: ton of kind of minor things there with Ohio and yeah,

590
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: the Miami Ohio think to your point with that suitor,

591
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: it's kind of a key creator for them. I do

592
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: like Steel's offense. I think it's a it's actually a

593
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: good offense. But you're right, I think the home court

594
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: cooking has been a big part of that.

595
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they can't rebound either. And the Toledo they

596
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: have the worst defense in the league. Yeah, the Buffalo

597
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: is in this league. They're three hundred and fifty fifth. Now,

598
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 3: I was looking at their defensive numbers and I'm like,

599
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: these can't be right. The other week three hundred and

600
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: fifty fifth in adjusted defense efficiency. Now in the past,

601
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: what with quasas teams at Toledo, this is what you

602
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: come to expect, not great defenses, but they make up

603
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: for it with their offense. Right, Like take two years

604
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: ago they finished when the team that lost to Michigan,

605
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: what was that in the AN I see maybe.

606
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah that was twenty or thirteen. Yep, their fifth on offense,

607
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: turn ninety fifth on defense, but they finished fifth in

608
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: the MAC that you're in defense, right, So those all

609
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: sort of reletive. Usually they're relatively fine by MAX standards defensively, and.

610
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: Their offense isn't as good either. Right, their defense is

611
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: way worse and their offense isn't as good to even

612
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: come close to making up for it. And there they

613
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: were on a late season swoon. Like you mentioned, there

614
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: might be some other things going on. They did finish

615
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: by beating a beat up Ohio team in the finale.

616
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: But before then, I mean they got blown up by Buffalo.

617
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: They gave up ninety six to Acron, one hundred and

618
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: five to Kent State, and you know, if you're if

619
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: you're losing at Kent State by forty, and that's trouble.

620
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: They lost a bowling green Eastern Michigan Imo Ohio. Their

621
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 3: their only win in that stretch since February was at

622
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: home against Ball State by one. So yeah, this team,

623
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: they kick it stops. So no thanks on Toledo. Western

624
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: Michigan just going down the line. They're pesky team. Wils

625
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: Is a good point guard. They team they can't shoot.

626
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: What does worry me a bit about Kent is like

627
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: Western Michigan almost swept Kent.

628
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: They they're the only team that rebounds close to as

629
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: well as Kent does because they have some size up front.

630
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: They're just a votle team. And I mean Willis is good,

631
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: but he is he's a wild ride man. Defensively, he

632
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: can just he can be. He can do some ol

633
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: a defensive things. They're playing. Really Yeah, it's just been

634
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: a hard team to figure out. But it's the one

635
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: team unfortunately, like Kent would probably rather have seen Eastern

636
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: Michigan or or or Bowling Green frankly in their first

637
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: round draw if they could probably pick. But I still

638
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: think they're just the way Kent's playing, they get by there.

639
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, Western Michigan is a weird team. It could potentially,

640
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: I think to your point, have some uh could trip

641
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: up ken if they play.

642
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they're they're they're just they're like a gnat

643
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: and and they're they're they're tough to figure out. But

644
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: if Ken State wins that game, they would either get

645
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: Mina Ohio or Eastern Michigan. Talked about Mina Ohio Eastern Michigan.

646
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 3: Their d is very, very very bad, and they're starting

647
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: center left who's been starting recently and who they he

648
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: was He only brings defense, like their offense gets a

649
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: little bit better, deals gets even work.

650
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's important. The local beat guy was wax

651
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: and Polack about him. I think he mattered defensively, so yeah.

652
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: And then if he if he doesn't play, then his

653
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: minutes go to Ji Odd, who is better offensively but

654
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: nowhere close to his good defensively. A lot of that's

655
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: just size. They get a lot smaller inside, but their

656
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 3: defense is bad. This is basically like the mac DePaul.

657
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: You have Nelson and Terry DePaul transfers Henry there, Christian Henry.

658
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 3: You can fill it up at throw their guard spot,

659
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 3: but they turn it over way too much and their

660
00:35:53,800 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: defense is just really bad. And they did sweep Ohio though,

661
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 3: which is noteworthy. Yeah, because, uh wait did they? I'm

662
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 3: sorry they start with Miami Ohio.

663
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: I think the EMU case is if you're just betting on,

664
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: like if you're a you've got to have a star

665
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: that can just run real hot and carry you for

666
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: a game or two. EMU kind of has that profile

667
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: with with Terry, right, you can he can go for

668
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: thirty five and win you a game or two. That's

669
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: I think that's that's your I think you have to

670
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: lean into that angle if you're looking to back ham you.

671
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so I'm sorry I should have said em

672
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: You split with mind Ohio their first opponent. They each

673
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: won on each other's home courts, which is usually the

674
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: case with min Ohio. Who Toledo is the team that

675
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: actually swept Ohio. Then you have Bowling Green, the eight

676
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: seed will play Akron. Now they've lost Trey Thomas. That's

677
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: the third starter they've lost this year. I just don't

678
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: know if they have enough all offense to help Marcus Johnson.

679
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: Akron did win the only meeting seventy one sixty eight

680
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 3: against Bowling Green. They shot forty two threes in that game.

681
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: That's like what Bowling Green wants you to do. Bowling

682
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: Green playing with house money. How they got in, I

683
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe Acron just has just as hoisting threes

684
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: and has a terrible shooting day. But the Bowling Green

685
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: offense is not pretty.

686
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: I just they lack bodies too. You know, they had

687
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: a healthy trade Thomas, and maybe if Towns had stayed healthier.

688
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: I actually kind of like the Bowling Green team preseason,

689
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: but they just don't have bodies right now. And I

690
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: think their whole defense, their zone defense, is more of

691
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: a we're not trying to deceive you, We're just trying

692
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: to keep our guys fresh and out of foul trouble.

693
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Like they don't provide it. They don't. There's no resistance defensively,

694
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: but you could argue that could create a high variance

695
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: type of situation. Maybe they kept string a few up.

696
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a tough one to sell for.

697
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: Me, all right, So ultimately, yeah, it's not the best

698
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: place I'm gona show. I'm gonna shop around. There's not

699
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: many books with prices out right now, but I told

700
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: myself that'd be like one exception. I'm betting Ken.

701
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: I need to do some money line rollover scenarios. Jex

702
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: opposed to my to like two to three to one

703
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: with Ken. There's probably a better money line play there,

704
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I think that the gap between

705
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: the Ken and Akron price that that, to me is

706
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: is too far.

707
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 3: March is the best month of the year, not just

708
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709
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710
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711
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712
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713
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Speaker 3: my picks thirty minutes before they go out to everyone else.

714
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Speaker 3: Go to Actionnetwork dot com slash March now to get

715
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Speaker 3: on board, all right. Looking at the Mountain West, which

716
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 3: will take place in Las Vegas between Wednesday and Saturday.

717
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: Top five teams get a bye in New Mexico's the one

718
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: seed in the favorite of plus two to fifty two

719
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: seat Colorado State just a surge at the end of

720
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 3: the season to get that two their plus three fifty.

721
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: The three seed Utah State is plus three thirty, so

722
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: they're the second favorite. The four or five matchup San

723
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 3: Diego State versus Boise State should be a grinder. Boise

724
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: State's four to one, san Diego State's plus seven fifty.

725
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: Not sure I get that. That's basically a coin flip

726
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 3: game to me and say State I believe swept them

727
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: in the regular season, and then you get into your

728
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: super long shots. I ran this. I actually the only

729
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: the price that stuck out the most from a value

730
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: perspective was UNLV at twenty two to one.

731
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: Now do you give me? Give me a home value there?

732
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: What's your home court small?

733
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: Like I did like half of what normally would made.

734
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 3: There's I always go back and forth with that. There's

735
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: like and if they if they play like you know,

736
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: sometimes depending on who you play, there's gonna be a

737
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: lot of fans from that team too. Like there's dark

738
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: weezy fans going to Mexico fans go down there, so UNLV. Now,

739
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 3: there's a lot of injuries in this league that are

740
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: worth noting Thomas. For UNLB, he's their best offensive player.

741
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 3: He's been out. Their defense is better without him. I mean,

742
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: their defense is playing incredible. No granted since February first thing,

743
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: teams were only shooting twenty five percent from three. But

744
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: I do believe their defense is better without him. But

745
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: their offense is not. Their upside is kind of limited.

746
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: But I I don't know. I don't I don't know

747
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: if I can get there with Utah with UNLB winning

748
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: four games in four days. But I am out on

749
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: Utah State, which is part of this who if you

750
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: NLV they should beat air Force it was really really

751
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 3: really really bad. If they do that, they don't exert

752
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: a lot. You hope that they just wouldn't exert a

753
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: lot of energy in that game. And you know you

754
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: ANDLV wants to play slower. They're not going to be

755
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: in up and down games. But I'm out on Utah

756
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: State that their offense is great. I get it, but

757
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 3: the league has figured out I agree their zone.

758
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: Other thing, you know, v real quick Rishwayne uh non

759
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: contact Lange injury got hurt. He was terrific. He kind

760
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: of keyed their offense in uh without Thomas if he's

761
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: out too. I don't know how you know these scores

762
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: like you know they if they were healthy. It was

763
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: the last game of the year. He came out of

764
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: the tunnel. I think he had a brace special update.

765
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: I forgot to write that down.

766
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: That's huge. I just missed it too. So Utah State

767
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: could get a real nice cushy. And again, it's not

768
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: gonna be easy cakewalk. It's you know'll be on their

769
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: home floor. But without that, that could be a pretty

770
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: huge guy. Especially it's that zone. You're gona need some shooting,

771
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: some spacing. Yeah, unless I got twenty offensive rebounds, I

772
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: don't know.

773
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.

774
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: It's funny. New Mexico was the sixth seed last year,

775
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: and I think we'd probably say last year team was

776
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: better than I don't know, it's close, but just to

777
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: contextualize how good this league was last year, how deep

778
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: it was, and they did the four and four right,

779
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: so I don't I'm not as scared to back in

780
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: Nevada or you know, the in this one. I think

781
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: it's doable. And Nevada was the one I was like

782
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: maybe Nevada can put it all together here, older team,

783
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: deep team, a team that could definitely, you know, that

784
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't be completely pillaged by four games in four days

785
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: debatably a good draw. You're playing a zombie team in Fresno.

786
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: Maybe the Rams are a little bit playing above their skis.

787
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: That's a Nevada was a look for me. I'm still

788
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: looking trying to shop at thirty to one. I think

789
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: I got to get like fifty to one, though it

790
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: feels like a bad price.

791
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would need at least fifty there.

792
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 3: I mean they're not fully healthy either. They lost, Yeah,

793
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: that's true. Yepik Coleman, who's the probably their best defender.

794
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: Foster is like a death piece going low. So yeah,

795
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: I can't. I mean, the good thing is Nevada does

796
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 3: want to play really slow, which helps if you're gonna

797
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 3: and they have some depth, which helps if you want

798
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: to pull off the four games in four days. But

799
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: I agree with this league is way down compared to

800
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: last year Fresno State. I think they're gonna Presno State Nevada.

801
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 3: That could be that could be an underlook.

802
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I curiously yep, yep, because.

803
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: I think Fresno State, which if you look at their

804
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: tempo numbers, they want to play fast, but they're playing slower.

805
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 3: I think overall now they've played some slow teams, but

806
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 3: since they've had this scandal and well.

807
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all betting the runner, they're definitely gonna play

808
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: so right, they're all uh, they're all shaven for unders.

809
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: They can't have no depth, no doubt exactly. They never

810
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: talked about that. I think that he's like, yeah, we

811
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: like to play fast. You know. I did my whole

812
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: uh my whole Dog and Pony show about my pace

813
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: space this year. But he's like, we've had like six

814
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: healthy bodies the whole year, so it's just hard to run.

815
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: But do you had no depth?

816
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and then you're gonna have like I mean,

817
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: they have like more sec now he plays like thirty

818
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: minutes and he's not going to school. Yeah, yep, w

819
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: they were. They only have six They have six guys now,

820
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: it's right. I think they're only playing six.

821
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: I bet there might be another surprise scratch too. We

822
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: saw it with NCA and T like out of nowhere.

823
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: Campshell is just not playing like their best player, and

824
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: they were they were down twenty in a hurry to Hofst.

825
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: I wonder there might be another. I think Nevada smokes them.

826
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: I think that's my first official bet of this first

827
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: shound thingk Nevada takes them to the woodshed. I know

828
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: they're a little bit banged up, but I think they

829
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: win handily. You don't have to lay a big number.

830
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: Nevada laying margins is not exactly a fun a fun notion,

831
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: but I think they smoke Fresno.

832
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: Laying double digits of Nevadas.

833
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: What a beautiful story. Remember when they played South Dakota State.

834
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: I laid that with Nevada and they beat the I

835
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: think they won the second half by twenty. To think

836
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: that you covered Nevada against South of Coastate a good

837
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: team at this point is his hilarious? So that is

838
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: tough to try.

839
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean looking at the rest of this practice.

840
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: So the big storyline here is I mean San Jose State, Wyoming.

841
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: Neither of those teams I don't think are making a run.

842
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: Do you believe in this New Mexico team? Like, are

843
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: they going to be the exception of the rule in

844
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: the Mountain West? I do you did last year too?

845
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: You're gonna eventually, yeah, I do.

846
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: I just I like that there is I like the

847
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: front line, the complimentary pieces that the Lobos have really

848
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: around it, like to get the Philip really starting to

849
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: play well. I just love Dent so much. I just

850
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: think he's a great you know, in this in this format,

851
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: gets gets his guys good shots. I do like the

852
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: I think an easy draw too. I think they'll probably

853
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: ham San Jose Wyoming the back to back there. I

854
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I think the best value though is San

855
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: Diego State. I'm with you. I don't get why that

856
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: gap between Boise is as big as it is. And

857
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: I'm still a believer in this as tech team. They've

858
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: been inconsistent because they've been young, but I still think

859
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: they have upside. You're been on upside, You're taking the

860
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: future here, right. I think Santuo State you have value

861
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: because there is that dichotomy between They have not played

862
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: as well in some spots, so why are you getting

863
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: a good price on them? But I think they can play.

864
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: I think their upsides as high as their recent teams

865
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: to some degree. So yeah, that's that's my look here

866
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: on futures is the Aztecs.

867
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: This offense isn't isn't as good, but yeah, I mean

868
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: the other thing is that they you know, I've i

869
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: haven't been impressed with uh Miles Heighten.

870
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's now.

871
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 3: The other thing is from from upside, like, so they're

872
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: building more depth down those They could get gaff back,

873
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: who's like a one of the most underrated rim protectors

874
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: in college basketball. Like he's not going to give you

875
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: a ton offensively, but his defense at the rim kind

876
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: of binds everything together for them. And Dutcher hinted that

877
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: he could be back. Yeah, first game against Boise so.

878
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: You actually his offense, I think there's upside there with

879
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: and you kind of saw you saw Spurts. You know,

880
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: he's not in total zero. BJ Davis is the key

881
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: for me. This is a guy who like is an

882
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: eye test. Love him guy. He's starting to play better lately.

883
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: I think he can. He's a guy who if you're

884
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: looking disfind a team that's going to really go to

885
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: a new level out of nowhere, you have to find

886
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: probably a player too that's going to get you there.

887
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: At Davis I think is one of those guys.

888
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the other thing is Boise State, they just

889
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: they can't shoot, and like you have to be able

890
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 3: to shoot to beat San Diego State and their defense yep.

891
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: And and they're just not. Boise State looks notice of

892
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: lead less athletic than the AD. That's the one when

893
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: you watch like Colorado State and Boise State. They just

894
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: at Utah State for sure. That's where I think New

895
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: Mexico and the Aztecs are just they are categorically more athletic,

896
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: and I think that really shows when they dialed to

897
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: the defensive pressure and you see that of those home games.

898
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: That's why I lean those two. I just think they're

899
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: defensive that it's a clearly more athletic and more you know,

900
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: more physical type of bill.

901
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: Now, speaking of Colorado State, they're the hottest team in

902
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: the league. They haven't lost since February eleventh. They closed

903
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 3: out the season with seven straight wins. The most impressive

904
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 3: over that street hat U ANDLV by eight. They destroyed

905
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: Utah State by twenty seven at home, and then they

906
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 3: won at Boise by ten. And a lot of that

907
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: has to do never really good go coach and Nico

908
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: Medved and he's kind of figured out this offense. And

909
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: Nee Clifford is really good I.

910
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: Mean he's he's in the kem Poum Player of the Year.

911
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: He's I mean, he's top ten in kim Poun's Player

912
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: of the Year, Like it's Tray Coffin, Red Mark Sears,

913
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: Walter Clayton, Cooper, Flag Dickinson, and then Nee Clifford is

914
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: number ten. I mean, he's been crazy good, crazy good.

915
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: He's like an NBA players. I mean they have some

916
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: upside with him. I mean he's really like a legit

917
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: NBA guy.

918
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 3: Yes, Now they're you know, so since February first, for Torgat,

919
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: Colorado State's twenty seventh in the country, Boise State's forty seventh,

920
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: Utah State's forty eighth, Mexico's fifty for San Diego State

921
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 3: is fifty second. So basically like all those teams are

922
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 3: fiftieth and Carr State's twenty seven. Now, they shot forty

923
00:49:53,880 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: three percent from three over that stretch forty three on

924
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: the season. They're thirty six shooting teams. They're a good

925
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: shooting team. They'renna shoot a lot, but for forty three,

926
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: so they've definitely been I think shooting a little bit

927
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: over their heads. Their path would be and I think

928
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: that they huh. Every the bubble is so weird this

929
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: year because every bubble team keeps winning.

930
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the power.

931
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: Conferences, like who's good, there's gonna be some I can't

932
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: remember a year where this many bubble teams keep winning.

933
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: But you're right, there's a pay if they go. If

934
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: they beat Nevada, and I think Utah State would be

935
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: what Quad two, so that that I think if they

936
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: win to and get to the title game, I think

937
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: they're officially a bubble team.

938
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: I don't.

939
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough though, I think because the.

940
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: Bubble Yeah, like look at Oklahoma, like all these teams

941
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: that that keep winning.

942
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: Conference bubble teams have big, big ap have just a

943
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: big much heat of much longer runway of opportunities to

944
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: get legit went and so yeah.

945
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: And they've they've gotten them all over the past two weeks.

946
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: So I think because of that boise, he's done. I

947
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 3: don't think howid of State can get it. I mean,

948
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: they'll get in the discussion if they get to the

949
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: conference tournament, but I actually think San Diego State might

950
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 3: miss the tournament if they lose the bois.

951
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, they've been again too inconsistent. I think that

952
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: the youth of that team has did the minute everyone.

953
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: You know, you can only market your Houston wins so

954
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: much and you kind of have to, Okay, well what

955
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: else have you done? But you know they have been

956
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: good against good teams. I think that's the best value.

957
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: I think that's my official play if I can get.

958
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm finding some seven six to one. I see a

959
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: couple of seven to ones. That's a small play for me.

960
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: I think they match well with Boise, like they beat

961
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: New Mexico and then they they close it off on Saturday.

962
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: I no San Jose love one hundred to one Timmy Miles.

963
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 3: They were a covering machine for a while.

964
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: They were.

965
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 3: I No, I can't get that. They did sweet Wyoming

966
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: during the regular season. Wyoming's gonna have to make threes

967
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 3: in that game. My boy, Dante Allen's gonna have to

968
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 3: get hot from three. Yeah, and am I mean he's

969
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 3: got to He has to play point now because I

970
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: think Wills's bad, but he's he hasn't been playing. So Yeah,

971
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: this Wyoming team, it's just not very good. I'm gonna

972
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: say color I'm gonna say Colorado State wins it. But

973
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: I can't get there. That this number. I don't mind

974
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: the San Diego State look though, to be honest, from

975
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 3: a price, that's the that's the route seven to one

976
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: you can get.

977
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep an eye on Goon though, I think that's

978
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they can went without him, but man,

979
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: that'd be such a boost.

980
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: There's a plus there for San Diego State and Boise

981
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 3: States plus four to twenty five. That's a coin flip

982
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: game to me. But yeah, getting Gaffe back would would

983
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: certainly be helpful. All right, Now, the last conference will

984
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: talk about the American There's no odds out yet, there's

985
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 3: games today, there's no bracket out yet. There's still like,

986
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: we don't even know the four seed yet. There's a

987
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: couple other seeds. So I'm just going to get your

988
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: high level thoughts on this and then i'll ask Jim

989
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: and Kay there's too and then tomorrow on our show

990
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: I'll mention anything that I like. By the way, quick

991
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 3: plug Lead eight watch party in Chicago. Are you going

992
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 3: to be there?

993
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: I believe? So this is on my calendar, which is

994
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: the twenty ninth, right, yep, twenty.

995
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: Ninth Lead eight watch party on Saturday. Myself, I'll be there,

996
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: Maddie and Kay, but definitely Jim there. We'll be doing

997
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: the We'll be doing an Elite eight preview Joe's on

998
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: Weed Street. You got an RCP. It is free. We

999
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: rented out drinks, will watch the lead da games, hopefully

1000
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 3: win some money together. So our SVP there. You have

1001
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 3: to RSVP in order to come, but it's free. And uh,

1002
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 3: I hope to see you all there on this Saturday. Well,

1003
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 3: I'll link We'll put the link for the RCP in

1004
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: the description of this episode. So hope to see all

1005
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: my Chicago peeps. They are looking forward to seeing the

1006
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: weave as well. I think I've been there, but I

1007
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: don't remember it.

1008
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: Far kind of the Myicago locals know it well. Indiana

1009
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: Bar kind of has like a concert stage venue at

1010
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: the back. I've seen a plenty of plenty of cover

1011
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: band in my younger. My younger actually chanced the rapper

1012
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: made a surprise cameo appearance when his concert got canceled

1013
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: like ten years ago. So yeah, memories, yeah, oh yeah, nice.

1014
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: All right, So just quick thoughts on the American where

1015
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 3: the favorite will be Memphis. But Memphis is an enigma,

1016
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: like you just yeah, how much like how much do

1017
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: they care today like they're already in the tournament like

1018
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 3: they so they could they could lose to anybody, and

1019
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: they lost the Temple, they lost the Wichita. But they're

1020
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: gonna be the top seed. They're gonna be the favorite.

1021
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 3: The things I don't like about Memphis is you can

1022
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: get them on the offensive glass and they turn it

1023
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: over too much, like especially when they're not focused, they're

1024
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 3: turning like they'll just turn it over a bunch. They'll

1025
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: be down like nineteen six in a game and then

1026
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 3: they will start their comeback. They're very talented. Dane Dange

1027
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 3: has been amazing for them this year, and then PJ.

1028
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: Haggerty is talking about microwaves, and then you know, you

1029
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: obviously got Kobe Rodgers who can shoot Tyreese Hunter, so

1030
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: you know, they have Jordaane who's gonna always get on

1031
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 3: the glass, make those other plays, so they have they

1032
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: have a lot of talent. And then you have got

1033
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: like CSA who can come and defend a little bit

1034
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: with his size. But I mean, I don't think I'm

1035
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: gonna end up wanting to bet Memphis. Now. Their path

1036
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: is gonna be pretty easy because the four seed might

1037
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: end up being who's it's gonna be too lame. Yeah.

1038
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: So I think of the Tulane, East Carolina, Florida, Atlantic,

1039
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: Wichita State Temple middle tier, I think Tulane scares me

1040
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: the least as much as I like Ron Hunter. I

1041
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: just think their talent is less. Uh just doesn't doesn't

1042
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: scare you, I guess.

1043
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: So.

1044
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they get and the four seed will

1045
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: probably play the five seed the way the brackets set up,

1046
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: so there's a chance to think those two could because

1047
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: I think like FAU or ECU and which toss state

1048
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: has been better down the stretch feed by the way,

1049
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: but I think e c U and FA are kind

1050
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: of my quote unquote dark horses here. There could be

1051
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: some capabalization in the middle of that bracket with the

1052
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: way it's set up right now, because only Memphis, North

1053
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: Texas UAB are locked into the one, two, three seed,

1054
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: four seed, and everything in the middle is kind of

1055
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: up for grabs. I do like for Memphis that they're

1056
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: going to avoid North Texas UAB until the final, and

1057
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: I was looking at North Texas but I just don't.

1058
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: It's a bummer that UAB does match up well with

1059
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: North Texas. Like I think they've kind of proven that

1060
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: they've blown leads against them, but they think they do

1061
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: match up well against the me and great with the

1062
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: way they make shots.

1063
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: They touch. They split during the regular season.

1064
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: They blew that huge lead in the first one, right,

1065
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: I think they're up like twenty points first half and

1066
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: they completely melted.

1067
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, but the first the second Union could have

1068
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: went either way. Yeah, to be fair, will Massy play

1069
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: for North Texas and we might see today. I don't

1070
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 3: know because they play today North Texas per Torvik. Since

1071
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 3: February first, I believe what I was looking at there,

1072
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: they've been the best team in the league. Yeah, seventy second,

1073
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 3: Memphis is seventy third, UAB is eighty ninth, which it

1074
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: was ninety nine, Florida Atlantics one hundred and nine. My

1075
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: question is this, and this is a bid stealer league.

1076
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: If you AB or North Texas or someone else wins

1077
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: it stealing a bid on the surface, you ab like, hey,

1078
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 3: we're not going to turn the ball over. We can

1079
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: live on the offensive glass like they have a lot

1080
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: of offensive talent, but they got their defense is not

1081
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 3: good this year. They got shredded by Memphis in both beatings.

1082
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: They gave up one hundred and then eighty eight and

1083
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: big Yaks Lindenborg their best player. He wasn't really as

1084
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 3: effective as he usually is. He had got into foul trouble,

1085
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: struggle with the physicality of Danger a little bit.

1086
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, so trouble both games. That's why I think

1087
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: the whistle is huge in both Memphis matchups. Right if

1088
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: you're kind of playing out, Yeah, huge. He have four

1089
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: in the first one, gave up one hundred four in

1090
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: the second, you have eighty eight.

1091
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: He got four in the second with eighteen minutes to

1092
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 3: go in the game. Yep.

1093
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. And their defense without him really really leaky. I

1094
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: think for a team that we perceive as athletic, and

1095
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: Andy Kenny's sounds beside him, he's I don't understand why

1096
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: we can't guard people like we are an athletic team.

1097
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: We still cannot guard the ball. So they have issues

1098
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: on the perimeter. And if if he's not in there

1099
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: as sort of the backstop, that they have real issues.

1100
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: And that's not even considering just the dominance that Dane

1101
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: Danger's been on lately and how unguardable he is in

1102
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: the post.

1103
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 3: Crazy yeah, but so so I keep going back and forth,

1104
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: like who do I think would have a better chance

1105
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 3: of beating Memphis? It's like UAB is not going to

1106
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 3: turn them over, probably not going to get stops. They're

1107
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: going to go up and down with them though, And

1108
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: they have a good have a great offense, and like,

1109
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: do I think that they have a better shot of

1110
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 3: winning a shootout than I do North Texas whose offense

1111
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: is nowhere close to as good as UABS and the

1112
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: upside isn't there, but their defense is much much better yep.

1113
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: And they actually can force Memphis into turners, take advantage

1114
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: of Memphis issues there, and they're going to grind the

1115
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 3: game down to a halt. Does that make And like,

1116
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: that's not how Memphis really wants to play. Memphis prefers

1117
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 3: to play up and down faster. And they're only meeting

1118
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: this year. It was close. North Texas lost at Memphis

1119
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: sixty eight sixty four. Like is who do you think

1120
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: has a better chance of beating Memphis?

1121
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: I think slightly in North Texas? But what does that

1122
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: mean in terms of value and betting a few I

1123
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see what the prices are. I think

1124
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: the name I keep going back to is East Carolina.

1125
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: I think this team has has some Memphis kryptonite, and

1126
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: then they play them very tight at Memphis back on

1127
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: January eleventh. They're physical, they're older, they have some talent.

1128
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: Schwartz will mix in some zone. I don't know if

1129
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: I love Schwartz as a in game adjuster, but he

1130
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: does mix and match defenses, will play some zone. And

1131
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: they've been kind of a bad victim of some opponent

1132
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: shooting like they their interior defense has been very good.

1133
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: They just teams have made shots against them that they're

1134
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: very right, and they're a good and they're one of

1135
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: those kind of shot volume darlings. I think they can

1136
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: run hot. I think that's sort of the tea I'm

1137
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: probably looking as a dark horse here. It might be

1138
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: a Pirates Live for me. When the official futures board

1139
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: comes up on this one, we'll see if there's slot

1140
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: it probably should be. Again, they're not gonna get that.

1141
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: I think I'd like them to be on the bottom

1142
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: half of the bracket as opposed to the top, but

1143
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: we'll I think they could fall in that six or

1144
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: seven line probably as it shakes out now. But yeah,

1145
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 1: that that's my dark horse team.

1146
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 3: The only problem with that. Yeah, I mean they have

1147
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 3: talent with they have some talented guys. Felton new Can

1148
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 3: he could just go off at any day Walker, I

1149
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 3: mean they did, they definitely.

1150
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: I think there's uh they're Juco dudes. Woodard and Lebau

1151
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: have have played better lately. I think they, like a lot

1152
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: of these Juco guys, struggle early on. They kind of

1153
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: like freshmen. We kind of we should treat them more

1154
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: like freshmen. But lately Lebo and Woodard are both starting

1155
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: to play well. I think that's kind of giving them

1156
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: some depth. And C. J. Walker, I can't believe he's

1157
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: still in college, has been like this has been awesome. Uh,

1158
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: inconsistent but but really good when he's on.

1159
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they can get the can they get they

1160
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 3: can get the five.

1161
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: They are currently. Yeah, they're a game back in Tulane

1162
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: for four. So tu Lane's in fourth and eleven and six.

1163
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: East Carolina is ten and seven. I mean they could

1164
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: get the four with a tiebreaker maybe, but I think

1165
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: five is probably they're gonna fall. So that would put

1166
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: them on the upper half of the bracket. In Memphis

1167
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: is part and they would get the winner of Rice

1168
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: Charlotte in the playing spot. So if the ford probably

1169
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: be two lane, so Tulayne plays U A b.

1170
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 3: Let's if Tulane loses an ECU lose ec you would

1171
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: end up getting the six, which I wouldn't like because

1172
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: my I'm looking at this and again i'll talk about

1173
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 3: this tomorrow. ECU there's no.

1174
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 1: Bench, yeah, good point, no, yep.

1175
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 3: Zero So if path becomes important when they're gonna have

1176
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: to win four games in four days, getting the four

1177
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: would obviously ideal. But if you get the five and

1178
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: you get to play you know, Charlotte Rice then Tulane

1179
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 3: instead of having to play like North Texas or UAB

1180
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 3: in the second round, that might be more ideal. But

1181
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 3: I don't mind a long shot on ThEC depending on

1182
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 3: the price. So I'll get Jims and Kay's thoughts as

1183
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 3: well once the odds and practical out. But like I said,

1184
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 3: I'm talking about a little bit more tomorrow. Let's quick recap.

1185
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 3: Just give out your pick for you think wins it

1186
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 3: where and then if you think there's any value acc

1187
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 3: I'll say Duke. If I had to play anyone, it

1188
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 3: would be Clemson. Louisville might not be at full strength.

1189
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 3: I think Clemson is better than Louisville. And if there's

1190
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 3: anyone that's gonna beat Duke, yeah, obviously you're gonna have

1191
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 3: to get hot from three and make your threes, which

1192
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 3: Clem's is capable of doing, and so it was Louisville.

1193
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: But you are gonna have to slow the game down.

1194
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 3: Clemson will do in the possessions, but I'll say Duke

1195
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: gets there revenge John Clemson in the championship.

1196
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Duke wins it. No official value plays here.

1197
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: Maybe a nickel on Georgia Tech or a nickel on Wake,

1198
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: but literally no more than Nickel. I don't think there's

1199
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: anything worth betting serious money on on either outside of

1200
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: Duke the Mac.

1201
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: I think Kent wins it. I'm gonna shop around. Also,

1202
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: compare running on rollover scenarios, keeping on the action over cap.

1203
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: I think Kent wins it. That's my horse. Do you agree?

1204
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm with you? And first round I think you're looking

1205
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: at it. I did consider em you I had that

1206
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: first round Miami, em you match him. I think Miami

1207
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: lays an egg in that one. I'm gonna look at

1208
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: Emu as a first round flyer there, but big picture

1209
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: future definitely gonna bet Kent just kind of trying to

1210
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: find the best price, and I need to probably confirm

1211
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: the money line rollover. It's not going to be better

1212
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: better off, but I think three to one that's there.

1213
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: Hopefully four to one shows probably like four not no way, yeah,

1214
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: no way.

1215
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, And I will be betting Ken if they

1216
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 3: play accurate and Mountain West I think we both agree

1217
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: price perspective. San Diego State.

1218
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: Probably one for me as texts uh get well soon, goon,

1219
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: we might need you, but not banking on it, but

1220
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: it'd be a nice bonus, nice luxury.

1221
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 3: And then American TBD E c U potential long shot

1222
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: for some couch change and uh yeah, I'm still wrestling

1223
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna need to see the bracket in the odds.

1224
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 3: I ultimately, just from what I watched, I think North

1225
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: Texas would have a better chance of beating Memphis. Doesn't

1226
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: mean you ay be can't, but just put their defense

1227
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 3: and then the way that they play.

1228
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: Much better, way better coach, just as he you trust

1229
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: warn to execute. It's close to laid.

1230
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that'll do it for us. Well, will

1231
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 3: have eight more coming up in parts six and seven.

1232
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 3: I'll be doing with Jim and kaylight of this afternoon

1233
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 3: to make sure you check those out. Thanks to Maddie

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01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,040
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1235
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,160
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1239
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1240
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:21,880
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1241
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