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Speaker 1: Okay, Let's get into last night's games. A whole lot
Speaker 1: of games on Wednesday night. Let's start with Kevin Love
Speaker 1: scoring twenty five points. The Calves hit nineteen threes as
Speaker 1: they stun the champion Milwaukee Bucks, who had their Big
Speaker 1: three playing their tasks and the Calves this is this
Speaker 1: is getting silly at this point.
Speaker 2: I gotta say it. I gotta say it right now.
Speaker 2: It's official. The Calves are back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2: It took four years after Lebron left. There's some bad times,
Speaker 2: but like a small market team needs to do, they
Speaker 2: did it right. Kobe Altman did an incredible job rebuilding
Speaker 2: this team. Got to do it through the draft, first
Speaker 2: Garland at the five spot and then Evan Mobley at
Speaker 2: the three spot. This past draft really sealed it. They
Speaker 2: got in on a real Seleck move to get Jared
Speaker 2: Allen in that four team trade where they gave up
Speaker 2: if you remember, I had to go back and look
Speaker 2: at this. They gave up a first round pick in
Speaker 2: Dante Xent to get Jared Allen, and then you do
Speaker 2: get something undrafted guys and you just develop players. And
Speaker 2: now they've got a te that just hopped the Milwaukee
Speaker 2: Bucks in the standing yep, and this is their statement
Speaker 2: winning And this is the point where I say the
Speaker 2: Bucks or the Calves are back, because this really feels
Speaker 2: like they ain't going anywhere. And I don't think the
Speaker 2: Bucks really want to play this team in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I know that it's a little premature. Yeah, the Calves,
Speaker 2: the Bucks just won the ship, but I think there
Speaker 2: are other teams that the Bucks would rather play. I
Speaker 2: think the Bucks would rather play the Bulls just because
Speaker 2: of their advantage at the bags, because they go get
Speaker 2: more possessions. That's how they beat the Suns last year
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. They just got more possessions because they
Speaker 2: go get rebounds. And yeah, nobody can guard Yanny's but
Speaker 2: Jared Allen's a monster. He can body him, he can
Speaker 2: play with them that you start three seven footers, they
Speaker 2: got a pretty decent matchup for Drew Holliday when they
Speaker 2: want to put Isaac Kor on. So I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I say all that to say, hey, if the Calves
Speaker 2: can win a playoffs series, obviously it's huge. But they
Speaker 2: do need a little bit more ball handling.
Speaker 1: They need a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Ball handling because there's so much pressure on Darius Garland.
Speaker 2: They teams just get the ball out of his hands,
Speaker 2: but when they don't, he does things like double cross
Speaker 2: Drew Holiday and then drop off a no look to
Speaker 2: Evan Mobley, who's on the baseline making things work. They
Speaker 2: are just in such a harmonious thing going on, everybody
Speaker 2: working together. It looks so great out there. And four
Speaker 2: years after bron has gone, the Cleveland Cavaliers are. They're
Speaker 2: right back where they used to be, not like at
Speaker 2: the top top, you know. But as part of the
Speaker 2: conversation at the again the fact that they're third in
Speaker 2: the standings. We're nearly fifty games into this season, so
Speaker 2: this is this is legitimate. This is a real team
Speaker 2: that should be vying for a top four seed, and
Speaker 2: teams shouldn't want to play this team.
Speaker 1: You know, they've beaten every top contender in the East.
Speaker 1: I know the Athletic was writing about it this morning.
Speaker 1: They're five and four against the Heat, the Bulls, the Bucks,
Speaker 1: and the Nets. Now in some of those games, if
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're dissecting it, Yeah, they're there are
Speaker 1: key players you know, not playing in some of them.
Speaker 1: Not last night with the Bucks. But still that's pretty
Speaker 1: damn impressive. It's not just that they're getting all these
Speaker 1: wins against the subpar teams in the league. They're holding
Speaker 1: their own TK against you know, the Bucks and including
Speaker 1: your bowls and stuff like that. Are they legit in
Speaker 1: your mind?
Speaker 3: Well, I think that the road to the to the
Speaker 3: NBA Finals goes through the Central Division.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 3: You got the Bulls, you got the Calves, and you
Speaker 3: got the Bucks. Those are three good teams. I think
Speaker 3: one of the huge advantages that the Calves have is
Speaker 3: that nobody plays like them. So when you play them, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're like, whoa, you got two seven footers out there
Speaker 3: and a guy named Dean.
Speaker 1: That's crazy stuff.
Speaker 3: But what it really came down to last night is
Speaker 3: that the Bucks bench did absolutely nothing. They got to
Speaker 3: make threes, they made one. They went one for ten
Speaker 3: between de Vincenzo, Hill and Mora, whereas the Calves bench
Speaker 3: was on fire. From three six for Chetty Osmen, five
Speaker 3: for Kevin Love. Chetty Osman is suddenly back. I know
Speaker 3: that guy played in the finals with Lebron, had a
Speaker 3: terrible first half of the season. Suddenly he's turned it
Speaker 3: on here in the second half. Maybe they don't need
Speaker 3: ball handling. Playoff Rondo will exist for them, like they
Speaker 3: probably sucked for the rest of the season. Then when
Speaker 3: it's playoff time, he got him out there making plays.
Speaker 3: That being said, I think the Bucks would beat him
Speaker 3: four to one in a playoff series when it actually
Speaker 3: comes down to it and you're game planning for it
Speaker 3: every single time. That being said, if there's no brook Lopez,
Speaker 3: that's a problem for Milwaukee. That has been the biggest
Speaker 3: problem for them this season. Yeah, they had their three stars,
Speaker 3: but brook Lopez does a great job of boxing out,
Speaker 3: which would be helpful against the Cleveland Cavaliers and just
Speaker 3: taking up space, not to mention he can stretch things out.
Speaker 3: So I think when it comes down to it, you're
Speaker 3: gonna see the inexperienced show for the Cavs. That being said,
Speaker 3: making it to the playoffs playing competitively, that's gonna be huge.
Speaker 3: That's a huge season for them.
Speaker 1: Johanness didn't seem too concerned about the loss last night,
Speaker 1: showing up to the post press conference eating a bucket
Speaker 1: of chicken wings and like just basically saying, you know,
Speaker 1: we played like crap. They're awesome, They're good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he likes their chances in a series if
Speaker 1: they were to ultimate. He played the Calves, but it's
Speaker 1: a it's a good matchup in the sense for Cleveland
Speaker 1: because of their size with no Brook Lopez on Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: I think that is fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And and like Trey said, teams don't play like
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Ketterers. Teamsn't play like the Milwaukee Bucks because
Speaker 2: they have got a freaking ye at to goopo. They
Speaker 2: just go get extra possessions. But the Calves can kind
Speaker 2: of match up. There just aren't too many teams that
Speaker 2: can match up with Yany's and the Calves kind of do.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's feeling good. I was looking at that
Speaker 2: bucket that he brought to the press conference. At first
Speaker 2: I got hungry because I had seen a photo of
Speaker 2: wings earlier, and I thought, whoa double down.
Speaker 1: I'm very you see wings, yeah, right, like being in
Speaker 1: a commercial or a PHOTOO, Like I just suddenly want those.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm not a I'm not a wing man.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. I don't really, I don't yearn
Speaker 2: for him. I don't, I don't. But then I see them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I don't think those were wings. I think that
Speaker 2: those were I think those are big pieces of chicken.
Speaker 2: Those are like fried chicken.
Speaker 1: I'm positive as wing because I found it strange.
Speaker 2: Small and hands, everything looks.
Speaker 1: I mean that was a big that was a big
Speaker 1: piece of checking out he I. I think he opened
Speaker 1: up this bucket and he had already started gnawing what
Speaker 1: appeared to be on a chicken wing, and then took
Speaker 1: another bite and then put it back in the bucket
Speaker 1: as he continued to talk. I thought it was a
Speaker 1: chicken wing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, he pulled it real. Greg Anthony, our former
Speaker 2: co worker, would always he'd eat on set right, and
Speaker 2: Yannis said that as well. But yeah, the lines from
Speaker 2: Yanni's were great. H Yeah, we played bad. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: played good. They made shots. That's what happened tonight, see
Speaker 2: you later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't care that much, but I just can't
Speaker 1: get over this Kevin Love like resurgence.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 1: This is nuts again. Twenty five he said, how many threes?
Speaker 1: Five threes? Yeah, that's a chicken wing, man, It was
Speaker 1: a chicken wing, guaranteed a chicken wing.
Speaker 3: You can see the bone there.
Speaker 1: That's that's exactly what I was watching this. He looked
Speaker 1: at me like, I said something about Kevin Love that
Speaker 1: made you disgust it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: He did hit five threes, but I was more interested
Speaker 3: in confirming that these were wings. It appears the first
Speaker 3: one he ate was a drumstick, because last night I
Speaker 3: saw the video coming across you know, the bucks tweet
Speaker 3: says he brought a bucket of wings. I saw him
Speaker 3: with the bucket.
Speaker 2: It did say that.
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna spend thirty seconds of my own time
Speaker 3: last night seeing him take an actual wing out. But
Speaker 3: now that we're on the podcast, I'm happy to see
Speaker 3: that it's there. It's like it doesn't look very saucy though.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he is a dry man. Dry man
Speaker 1: likes a dry rub.
Speaker 3: He likes a Cajun rub I don't blame him, but
Speaker 3: if you get eleven threes from your bench, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Nineteen threes on the night for the calves, Like, if
Speaker 3: you are getting all of the offensive rebounds and you're
Speaker 3: making nineteen threes, if you'll lose that game, you should
Speaker 3: be pissed.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see what the conversation is on, you know,
Speaker 1: on the Twitter NBA Twitter sphere tomorrow, when the starters
Speaker 1: are announced tonight, right on TNT, we're gonna find out
Speaker 1: who the ten All Star game started. And then of course,
Speaker 1: naturally what happens is Okay, time to pick the reserves.
Speaker 1: We might do it on the Drop podcast for crying
Speaker 1: Aloud tomorrow. But yeah, how many calves are getting selected?
Speaker 1: How many will be there? I mean, with the record
Speaker 1: the way it is. You know, the Bulls obviously they're
Speaker 1: gonna have one starter, maybe too, but probably one, and
Speaker 1: then they're gonna get a second like Ezac Lylavine if
Speaker 1: the Rosan is starting and he will be Calvs same boat,
Speaker 1: you know, two for them. You know you got the
Speaker 1: nets with Obviously Kadi starting Harden will likely be selected.
Speaker 1: The Bucks being one of the better teams and the
Speaker 1: heat of course, being the better teams, they will probably
Speaker 1: be the one the two squads that will only have
Speaker 1: one All Star ultimately. But yeah, you think Garland and
Speaker 1: Jared Allen, and maybe there's some buzz for Mobley too.
Speaker 1: I think that maybe be a little far fetched.
Speaker 2: But I think they're guaranteed one. I don't see a
Speaker 2: lock for a second.
Speaker 1: You don't see a lock for a second. Helps they
Speaker 1: got one big guy in, one very very talented.
Speaker 3: Guard too, and Darius gard does feel like Darius Garland
Speaker 3: has taken Jared Allen's place to me, but maybe it's
Speaker 3: easier to make it in the front court. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of good guards in the Eastern Conference, or
Speaker 3: at least a lot of guards who are kind of
Speaker 3: eligible for All Star considerations, So we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 3: they'll definitely get at least one, and I think Garland
Speaker 3: would be the first choice now if you're just picking
Speaker 3: purely on the player, whereas Jared Allen looked like the
Speaker 3: guy through the first quarter of the season.
Speaker 1: And I know no one really cares, but I saw
Speaker 1: some discourse on Twitter last night about Coach of the
Speaker 1: Year and whether it's bicker Staff's like sort.
Speaker 2: Of to lose.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna they might surpass their win total
Speaker 1: from last year by the All Star break. The cas
Speaker 1: will it's bicker Staff. It's probably Taylor Jenkins with the Grizzlies.
Speaker 1: I think Monty Williams if the Suns have like sixty
Speaker 1: five plus wins, will you know, get a little consideration
Speaker 1: and Spolster if the Heat have the number one record
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. But it feels like Bickerstaff rightfully
Speaker 1: so is the leader in the Coach of the Year race.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Skeates, No, can't get excited. No, I can't
Speaker 2: get excited about Oh okay, yeah, those two those are
Speaker 2: those are definitely the candidates for me. Let me jump
Speaker 2: back to Garland for a second. I think the players
Speaker 2: throughout the league are showing so much respect to Darius
Speaker 2: Garland and just the way they talk about him that
Speaker 2: he's getting calls from guys throughout the league telling him,
Speaker 2: hey man, you have come along such such a long
Speaker 2: way through these first few months of the season. Plus
Speaker 2: he plays for USA Basketball. I wonder if that extent
Speaker 2: that the coaches win, they make their reserve picks. I
Speaker 2: know Jared Allen is he's a monster. But Darius Garland, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I think he surpassed them in just the
Speaker 2: reputation that he's already got throughout the league. And I
Speaker 2: think he'll be the number one with a bullet for
Speaker 2: the Calves as far as all stars go. From those coaches,
Speaker 2: from all the other fourteen coaches, we haven't decided. Is
Speaker 2: it fourteen coaches vote for the Eastern Conference? Yeah? Not
Speaker 2: not their rest not the West doesn't vote vote for
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference. I thought that.
Speaker 3: Was twenty nine coaches voted for the Eastern Conference, Okay, nine.
Speaker 2: For the I don't know, I thought, yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, all right, all.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, you don't want to talk about Coach
Speaker 1: of the Year, but you want to talk about the
Speaker 1: ballot when it comes. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, all right, I love procedural.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to our next game from last night,
Speaker 1: the Hornets set a franchise record with one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty eight points in the road demolition of the Pacers.
Speaker 1: I like the AP report going with demolition there. Know
Speaker 1: you got the Royal rumble right around the corner. Maybe
Speaker 1: delition squad. What are they called demolition squad. What are
Speaker 1: they called demolition team? Deblition and crush well crush, Oh wow,
Speaker 1: you're right Saturday night ro rumble.
Speaker 2: I thought he used to be on Sundays it is,
Speaker 2: That's what I heard.
Speaker 3: This man knows the procedures. It's not Sunday. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Anyway, back to the Hornets. One hundred and fifty eight points, Trey, Well,
Speaker 1: what do you have to add to this?
Speaker 3: Every Hornets game feels like a pickup game, And this
Speaker 3: one was where you're playing to nine and your opponent
Speaker 3: hits four twos and a layup in six possessions and
Speaker 3: suddenly the game is over. One hundred and fifty eight
Speaker 3: points and twenty four threes for Charlotte. Which do you
Speaker 3: think is more rare? One hundred and fifty eight or
Speaker 3: more points? Are twenty four or more threes?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What is more rare? Which has happened?
Speaker 3: Which has happened more often? So which has happened less
Speaker 3: would be more rare?
Speaker 2: I'd say the twenty four to three? Oh actually because
Speaker 2: of the era, because like threes have a shorter lifespan.
Speaker 3: You know, they've been keeping track of points the whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: didn't have threes.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, So what I mean, yeah, twenty four more
Speaker 2: threes are rare.
Speaker 3: It's points, yeow, only nineteen times as a team scored
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty eight or more points. Forty five
Speaker 3: times twenty four or more threes. Teams are fourteen and
Speaker 3: five when they score one hundred and fifty eight points.
Speaker 3: As you would imagine, there are a few games. There
Speaker 3: was even one game I saw from twenty nineteen that
Speaker 3: was one hundred and fifty nine to one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty eight. Remember that that was a Wizard's game. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they were the pickup team back then. Yeah, like, we
Speaker 3: just play fast, nobody plays defense. Everybody shoots threes. And
Speaker 3: that's kind of what the Hornets are right now. And
Speaker 3: it's fun to watch Tanami Poppy Kelly oubre Junior dripping
Speaker 3: wet last night. Oh my god, career high thirty nine points,
Speaker 3: ten to fifteen from threes, the thirty eighth player in
Speaker 3: history to hit ten or more threes in a game.
Speaker 3: One of the most surprising. I would say, it's gotta
Speaker 3: be it's like him. Marcus Smart and Mario Chalmers to
Speaker 3: me are kind of the list of guys who hit
Speaker 3: ten threes and you're like, well, what, at least Marcus
Speaker 3: Smart you can kind of get it because like he
Speaker 3: can go for ten for ten in one game and oh,
Speaker 3: for ten in the next game. Mario Chalmers, I was like,
Speaker 3: they let him shoot ten times. That was a shocker
Speaker 3: to me. So I don't know, you make that many threes,
Speaker 3: you're gonna win a game. Kelly Ubray was the best
Speaker 3: shooter last night, but the best three was Miles Bridges,
Speaker 3: who shot on moon Ball, had to have shot at
Speaker 3: twenty feet in the air, swisched through, looked straight at
Speaker 3: Lance Stevenson hit him at the tiny guitar.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't want to go full guitar because they
Speaker 3: were blowing him out. It would have been really embarrassing,
Speaker 3: but he had to give him a little laugh on
Speaker 3: the guitar. Good stuff from the Hornets.
Speaker 1: I love on an NBA night where there's a ton
Speaker 1: of games on and maybe you're not watching. I can't
Speaker 1: blame you Hornets Pacers, but you see the score and
Speaker 1: you see that Kelly Ubray has you know, nine or
Speaker 1: ten threes, and it's like I have to click over.
Speaker 1: I have to see what's going on here, So like
Speaker 1: I did chime in or tune in, excuse me to
Speaker 1: this game later on, just because like you see that
Speaker 1: the numbers. I know wob was tweeting about it too,
Speaker 1: and I started tweeting about it, like they had so
Speaker 1: many points, so there was like six minutes still to go.
Speaker 1: It's like, how many are they gonna end with?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 1: Like they let they look, I mean, as you can.
Speaker 1: They took their fot off the gas in the final
Speaker 1: couple of minutes, so I think I'd had way more
Speaker 1: than that, which is the insane part. But Kelly Obray Junior,
Speaker 1: he hit ten threes in this game. I went and checked.
Speaker 1: He had another game this year where hit nine. I
Speaker 1: had two other games where he hit seven this season,
Speaker 1: he said, four games when he hit seven or more threes. He's, uh,
Speaker 1: he can catch fire.
Speaker 2: He's coming off the bench. Yeah right, he does it
Speaker 2: off the bench, and some other rare names that have
Speaker 2: hit ten threes, specifically off the bench. There aren't many
Speaker 2: guys who've done it, he joins j R. Smith, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's understandable. Danilo Gallinari, that's surprising. And then Donielle Marshall classic,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, as the only players ever with ten threes
Speaker 2: off the bench. Yah, Uber just comes in at fires. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he has had those those streaky ones. He's super
Speaker 2: duper streaky. I'd say have all the names we mentioned,
Speaker 2: probably Mario Chalmers the weirdest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, weird, just weird.
Speaker 3: To imagine him shooting ten times in the game without
Speaker 3: getting yelled at.
Speaker 1: Oh how how high did Bainsy get that one game nine?
Speaker 2: I think I think hit nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yeah, it wasn't it wasn't double digits,
Speaker 1: but it was a ton.
Speaker 2: He could be in the demolition. I think Aaron bains.
Speaker 1: Definitely put him in. You imagine he showed up to
Speaker 1: the Rumble this weekend surprise entrance.
Speaker 3: I think there's a big story on ESPN from Brian
Speaker 3: Windhorst about a tragic fall that Aaron Baines had when
Speaker 3: he was at the Olympics and how he's just now
Speaker 3: getting back to walking, which is why we haven't seen
Speaker 3: him in the NBA. Only saw the headline. Gonna check
Speaker 3: it out afterwards.
Speaker 2: But Baines talk, all right, maybe he'll be there on
Speaker 2: Saturday night. It is Saturday.
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 2: What are they trying to capitalize on the M M
Speaker 2: a fan base or what.
Speaker 3: Do they They don't want to go against football.
Speaker 2: Probably, yeah, I guess that's.
Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, I guess the football wouldn't be over
Speaker 1: by the time it starts. That's true.
Speaker 3: It doesn't want to go against.
Speaker 2: No, no, it doesn't happen every year though they play
Speaker 2: football like every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, our light issues? What's the undertaker? Okay, next
Speaker 1: game here? Well, JD like literally just rips this light down.
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson scores twenty five to lead the Heat to
Speaker 1: the one ten ninety six win over the next I'll
Speaker 1: get a start with this one because on Tuesday, you
Speaker 1: guys might remember I struggled to find a top trade
Speaker 1: candidate for the Miami Heat. You know, we went through
Speaker 1: every single team. We did that on Tuesday in the East.
Speaker 1: On Wednesday show, we did the West. But I got
Speaker 1: to the Miami Heat. I was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: who they would look to move, and the best I
Speaker 1: came up with. I ultimately decided on on kz Akpala
Speaker 1: because you know, open up a little more room below
Speaker 1: the tax And then I threw Duncan Robinson's name, and
Speaker 1: you guys wisely were like, I don't I don't really know,
Speaker 1: Like sure, maybe teams would be interested in them, but
Speaker 1: they don't. They're probably not going to look to move him.
Speaker 1: You even said tasks like he started the season terribly.
Speaker 1: He could not hit a shot, and that's what he's
Speaker 1: out there to do. But he's gotten going recently and
Speaker 1: continued last night. Like I said seven to eleven from three,
Speaker 1: he's sixteen to twenty nine and I added that up correct,
Speaker 1: it might be even better than that over the last
Speaker 1: three games. So he is shooting forty four percent from
Speaker 1: three in twenty twenty two. So here in January over
Speaker 1: a ten game stretch, My, he's eight and two over
Speaker 1: that stretch. You know, he started half of those games.
Speaker 1: Their only losses were to Philly and then they lost
Speaker 1: that two point game to the Hawks are right there,
Speaker 1: So he's not going anywhere, I guess, is my point.
Speaker 1: And wow, what a luxury for the heat when you
Speaker 1: can have like is it Duncan Robinson's Night Tonight or
Speaker 1: is it Tyler Heroes Night Tonight? Or hell both of
Speaker 1: them where they're just on fire and open up some
Speaker 1: room there for Bam who was a hell of a
Speaker 1: playmaker last night. And then the lanes are there for
Speaker 1: Jimmy to attack, attack, attack. This Heat team is awesome.
Speaker 1: They're top three offensively, top seven defensively, and Lowry's not
Speaker 1: even playing and all the deeple at some point's gonna
Speaker 1: come back. They're damn good. Do you believe in them?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I think they are with the Bulls as
Speaker 2: the next tier to the Bucks and the Nets. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think they should be disappointed if they're not in
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference finals. They should be. They're good. How
Speaker 2: do they keep doing it? I don't know. They just
Speaker 2: forced guys like Mario Chalmers. Gabe Vincent is the new
Speaker 2: Mario Chalmers. Gabe Vincent used to be a score. But
Speaker 2: on this team, you've got a role, and Eric Spolsher
Speaker 2: gets everybody to buy in, and they are buying in
Speaker 2: fully one hundred percent. Yes, they are definitely one of
Speaker 2: those teams are Yeah, they belong there because of all
Speaker 2: the rankings that the numbers say it, the eye test
Speaker 2: says it, and how many.
Speaker 1: Games have Lowry, Butler and Bam even played in together.
Speaker 3: Fourteen or something, wow?
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, they are damn good. Now helped out that
Speaker 1: they're playing the next last night, the Knicks suck they
Speaker 1: really do. They're bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have terrible starters. All of their starters are
Speaker 3: very slow. Yeah, that's basically what it comes from. Over
Speaker 3: r J. Barrett can run fast, he's good, and that's
Speaker 3: the only guy that can run fast from their starters.
Speaker 1: So you know, they get blown out of the.
Speaker 3: First quarter every single night, and then they're playing from behind,
Speaker 3: and they're relying on Julius Randall, who had the greatest
Speaker 3: contract year in history. I'm convinced he went from bad
Speaker 3: contract to all NBA player to bad contract before his
Speaker 3: contract even started. His extension still hasn't kicked in yet,
Speaker 3: so I don't know what the Knicks are gonna do.
Speaker 3: They need to change the starting lineup, but what are
Speaker 3: they gonna do? I mean, Topping should probably start since
Speaker 3: he's an athlete. Fournier and Kemba Walker, I don't know.
Speaker 3: They should just go full youth, honestly, they should start
Speaker 3: quickly and Grimes and Topping and Barrett and Randall and
Speaker 3: then Robinson or Noel depending on who is healthy. And
Speaker 3: at least try and be fast because you can't play
Speaker 3: a slow game against the heat. The heat are good
Speaker 3: at slow games, and the Knicks just have to play slow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they move too much that the heat do for
Speaker 2: the Knicks to be able to keep up. It's it's
Speaker 2: never been seen before. I don't think to see every
Speaker 2: like almost game in and game out, starters come on
Speaker 2: and then the stats at the end of the game
Speaker 2: are like minus twenty twenty five for all of them,
Speaker 2: and then then and then the youthful bench is able
Speaker 2: to pick them up. And you know, maybe we shouldn't
Speaker 2: have ripped Alfred Peyton and Reggie Bullock so hard last year,
Speaker 2: you know, especially Elford Payton, but they were able to
Speaker 2: at least hold the Ford on this team. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: Randall went off and then yeah, I still think the
Speaker 2: playoffs affected him greatly. But the two weeks here are
Speaker 2: what I'm I'm thinking about. Two weeks before the trade
Speaker 2: had life, the Knicks have, you know, some of the
Speaker 2: youth that you talked about there to entice teams topping
Speaker 2: and grimes and quickly. And then they still have a
Speaker 2: lot of picks. They have all their own picks. They
Speaker 2: have the mas pick that they got for Porzengis. They
Speaker 2: did give one up for cam Reddish, but they can
Speaker 2: package maybe some of that youth to get a better player.
Speaker 2: Julius Randall needs to be a number two, and then
Speaker 2: if our Jay's a number three, I don't know if
Speaker 2: they can entice somebody. But you start getting those New
Speaker 2: York vibes, right, Maybe a superstar wants to come there
Speaker 2: so well via trade?
Speaker 3: Hilarious, hilarious. One of the Knicks ever gotten a superstar?
Speaker 2: Amaris Stenmeyer was kind of a.
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: It was like a third choice that years to be that.
Speaker 3: The plan now for the next ones again is well,
Speaker 3: we just gotta gotta trade our young guys and see
Speaker 3: if we can get another star in here. It's it's
Speaker 3: tough out there for the Knicks, like Tom Thibodeau is
Speaker 3: saying in the press postgame press conference, can't keep starting
Speaker 3: from behind like this. Then switch it up, literally, who's
Speaker 3: in charge of who's starting out there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Put something out something else, like Derek Rose cannot be
Speaker 3: your most important player in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Their schedule it's really interesting coming up here too. They
Speaker 1: visit Milwaukee on Friday, then they host the Kings. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you're hoping for a win there and the Grizzlies.
Speaker 1: Then they go on a five game road trip the
Speaker 1: next two Lakers, Jazz, Nuggets, Warriors, Blazers, so they've got
Speaker 1: that to go through, and then they host the Thunder
Speaker 1: and the Nets there at MSG prior to the All
Speaker 1: Star Break. I mean, that's maybe maybe three wins. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's bad. And we're gonna show you the Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: standings in a second here, But yeah, Knicks fans are
Speaker 1: very pissed off with some of their players, you know,
Speaker 1: mainly Randall uh and then and their coach what is
Speaker 1: doing here and refusing to play Obi top and give
Speaker 1: him start minutes and switch it up here a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's just like he's a little too stuck in like
Speaker 1: these we'll just we'll just roll with their boys. And
Speaker 1: you know that's obviously a Bulls fan with him coaching there.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it fell off in one year though.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that's sort of what happened with
Speaker 3: the timber Wolves as well. They went to the playoffs
Speaker 3: and then the next year Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Butler was just out.
Speaker 3: I thought that was more of like a Jimmy Butler
Speaker 3: issue rather than necessarily a TIBs issue. But I don't know,
Speaker 3: like the are the Knicks going to be trying to
Speaker 3: trade Julius Randall at the trade deadline and his contract
Speaker 3: hasn't even started yet. Probably, Like I think they would
Speaker 3: be excited if they could find somebody to take Randall,
Speaker 3: but I don't think anybody's really interested right now. That
Speaker 3: being so, he's probably gonna be fine when he plays
Speaker 3: away from New York again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just has not climatized himself to the New
Speaker 2: York pressure. I don't think to pressure that will drip drip, drip,
Speaker 2: drip drip.
Speaker 1: So what do you ever mean? Like, what once expectation.
Speaker 2: Til you just go whoa?
Speaker 3: He hasn't seen in canto yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean but you've seen You've seen the incanto,
Speaker 2: the meme, everybody loving it, everybody's singing it. You've seen
Speaker 2: the Instagram so people.
Speaker 3: I haven't actually seen the pressure, the pressure memes. I've
Speaker 3: only seen Carlos Santana's slash Bruno memes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bruno is the hot one. Bruna is the hot one.
Speaker 2: It's not so much the pressure memes. It's just people
Speaker 2: just singing that that that's part of another song. But
Speaker 2: I just adults are singing in canto on social media.
Speaker 1: It's definitely true. A good movie. Yes, okay, yes, it's.
Speaker 2: A good movie for sure.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I want to know, though, why so what's going
Speaker 1: on with Randall? Where he sucks this year but was
Speaker 1: fine last year because there was no expectations as a
Speaker 1: part of it. You mean, he does just look everything
Speaker 1: looks like a second slow this year with him, and
Speaker 1: I don't know now what the loss is piling up
Speaker 1: and the booze and the pressure. Yeahs being the max
Speaker 1: sort of guy. It's not a max max contract, but
Speaker 1: it's obviously a hell of a contract that now he
Speaker 1: can't handle that.
Speaker 2: The playoffs changed the man. But what playoffs got to him?
Speaker 2: Some people just can't handle playoff pressure.
Speaker 1: Right But we're not playing playoff games right now.
Speaker 2: Well, it's changed him, I think, I think, yeah, talk
Speaker 2: it out here yet. Well, I don't think there's another explanation.
Speaker 2: It's just not clear minded. He's not feeling good anymore.
Speaker 2: He's not feeling as great as he did last year
Speaker 2: when there was no expectations as a number one guy.
Speaker 2: That's why you need somebody in there.
Speaker 1: You need a solid point guard to lead this.
Speaker 2: Team, somebody, somebody really good.
Speaker 1: The other East results. Let's get to them. Yes, just
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference sort of wins here. DeRozan powers the
Speaker 1: Bulls to the one to eleven one oh five win
Speaker 1: or the Toronto Raptors. It was a no dunk's battle
Speaker 1: last night. Bogdanovic and Okongwu lead the surging Hawks earn
Speaker 1: a bit of a run here past the Kings one
Speaker 1: twenty one one four, and Jokic and Rivers teamed up
Speaker 1: to help the Nuggets beat the Nets, the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 1: I put them in here for a reason, j D.
Speaker 1: I think you have it the Eastern Conference standings as Trey.
Speaker 1: Maybe you want to touch on either that Bulls victory
Speaker 1: or anything else, but I thought this was just worth
Speaker 1: showing everyone because we haven't done this in a while. Like,
Speaker 1: just take a look at the standings where you know,
Speaker 1: there's some some separation markers between just sort of lumps
Speaker 1: of teams, and man, are they lumps.
Speaker 3: I'll see your skeets checking out our lumps. Uh yeah,
Speaker 3: sorry to my friends, but you guys got boots last night.
Speaker 3: I know skeets, you thought that comeback was going to
Speaker 3: happen for the Raptor.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, comeback? Did happen they took the lead.
Speaker 3: Oh not at the end of the game though, right, No, yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: You didn't say that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, we're counting comebacks when you just get close.
Speaker 1: No gunting comebacks when you're down nineteen and then you
Speaker 1: take the lead. Then, so there is a Bulls comeback
Speaker 1: victory don one. According to ESPN Stats and Info, probably.
Speaker 3: Is nonetheless a huge game for all of the Bulls
Speaker 3: Big three seventeen fifteen, eight assists for Vucci dribbled in
Speaker 3: to that dagger three with the Bulls up three fourteen
Speaker 3: seconds left. That was the dagger. He was pumped. That
Speaker 3: was cool to see for him. DeRozan twenty nine, seven
Speaker 3: and seven, Levine twenty three, eight and eight. But if
Speaker 3: you ask me, the game ball goes to Javonte Green
Speaker 3: because the Bulls were a big time at half seventeen points,
Speaker 3: got out to nineteen in the third quarter. The Reps
Speaker 3: just couldn't get a stop in the first half, went
Speaker 3: into switch O mode in the second half and completely
Speaker 3: threw the balls out of rhythm. It would take him
Speaker 3: like ten seconds just to get the ball up court
Speaker 3: and start their possession. And then at that point I
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, now we're trying to get a shot
Speaker 3: off over some guy who's six foot nine. There was
Speaker 3: a lot of standing and watching for the Bulls. So
Speaker 3: Kobe White eventually went out. Javonte Green checks in with
Speaker 3: four nineteen left, it's a one point game. He immediately
Speaker 3: gets a dunk on a back cut. He immediately draws
Speaker 3: a file by being aggressive inside, and then he had
Speaker 3: that great defense on Siakam when he was going to
Speaker 3: the hoop with about thirty seconds left, force to miss,
Speaker 3: which led to the Vucci three. He's such an important
Speaker 3: player for the Bulls. I've talked about it. When they
Speaker 3: were really struggling defensively, they had no athleticism out There
Speaker 3: was like Vien was out, Caruso was obviously out, Lonzo's out,
Speaker 3: Javonte Green's out, Derek Jones Junior, all their guys who
Speaker 3: live in the passing lanes were gone. So having him back,
Speaker 3: actually not needing the ball, not just waiting to shoot
Speaker 3: threes and going to the hoop and kind of playing
Speaker 3: downhill that was big time. So fun game. Uh looked
Speaker 3: like it was going to be a blowout, but it
Speaker 3: was fun in the second half, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raps couldn't execute there down the stretch, just
Speaker 2: couldn't find the right shots without Fred van Vliet out there.
Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody loves Vucci more than Demarta Rosen.
Speaker 2: Vouch hit that shot and not much of a celebration
Speaker 2: from the bullser but just sat down, kind of more
Speaker 2: of a relief.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Raps came back and we took care of business.
Speaker 2: But Tomorrow went over there and gave him a sit down.
Speaker 2: Hug Vouch is sitting down and DeMar sirty to give
Speaker 2: him one of.
Speaker 1: Those I always want to beat your old team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tomorrow was has always spoke glowingly of Vouch,
Speaker 2: respect respected his game in Orlando, and they get it
Speaker 2: done together. Yeah, it's it's a team still that is, yeah,
Speaker 2: getting through the rough waters there of nobody around, and
Speaker 2: these are the wins that they need to have at
Speaker 2: home without the Rep's best player out there and Fred.
Speaker 2: So that was a good win for them. I watched
Speaker 2: the Nets and the Nuggets game just because it was
Speaker 2: almost like a Nets game that they had to win. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Harden sits down where his hamstring is not one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: But those are the types of these are the types
Speaker 2: of games that they should try and win if they're
Speaker 2: gonna climb in the Eastern Conference standings themselves. And it's
Speaker 2: worrisome that James Harden has a hamstring injury at this
Speaker 2: point of the season because Katie ain't there and Kyrie
Speaker 2: Irving isn't there right now, So this is going to
Speaker 2: be a weird This is just gonna be an odd
Speaker 2: stretch of games. Now. That was a makeup game, so
Speaker 2: that was probably a sit on the schedule for James
Speaker 2: Harden just to get some rest already. But I will
Speaker 2: say Kevin Durant I don't think is out of the
Speaker 2: MVP race. Steve nash Well, he says Kevin Durant will
Speaker 2: be reevaluated in the next week. So that's way earlier
Speaker 2: than we've been thinking. Because when he said there was
Speaker 2: the Yahu report that Durance out through the All Star break,
Speaker 2: he said, we'll see, we'll see about that. We'll see
Speaker 2: about that. Alex Schiffer. So Alex Schiffer, thanks for that report.
Speaker 2: But I don't think. I don't think we like to overreact.
Speaker 2: This team's out of this guy's out of the MVP race.
Speaker 2: I don't think Katie is out of it. He's not
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 1: JD. Could you throw up the Eastern Conference standings just
Speaker 1: quickly one more time? I think it's worth taking another look,
Speaker 1: because yeah, right now, the Heat holding off the Bulls
Speaker 1: who are right on their heels, and the Calves are there,
Speaker 1: so are the Nets, so are the Bucks, and so
Speaker 1: are the Sixers. And then there's like a little bit
Speaker 1: of gap there, you know, that that difference between the
Speaker 1: sixth and the seventh seed, which is the Hornets. But
Speaker 1: it's like the Hornet Celtics, Raptors, let's say, Wizards, Nicks
Speaker 1: on the Hawks. Yeah, and then you know there's three
Speaker 1: shitty teams in the league in the Eastern Conference, I
Speaker 1: should say, in the Pacers, Pistons and Magic, so they're
Speaker 1: out of it. So yeah, it's what is that six
Speaker 1: six teams playing for ultimately the final two spots in
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference standings. It'll be a I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a bit of a bit of a
Speaker 1: fight here with the Hawks coming on and the Knicks
Speaker 1: obviously falling off. They don't want to join those those
Speaker 1: bottom bottom dwellers.
Speaker 2: You guys believe in the Hawks winning five in a row,
Speaker 2: looking kind of kind of too.
Speaker 3: It really feels like they just hated cam Reddit because
Speaker 3: they're having a ton of fun. Danilo Gallinari threw down
Speaker 3: a row verse. Yeah, last night they had the big
Speaker 3: alley oop to a Congo who was getting trash talked
Speaker 3: by his teammates. Pre game, Lou Williams threw down a dunk.
Speaker 3: He said, I'm not practicing today because I dunked during
Speaker 3: the game. I don't need to practice fair. Yeah, so, yeah,
Speaker 3: the vibes have changed. Yeah, the vibes of one changed.
Speaker 3: And maybe it was just shipping out the one guy
Speaker 3: who wanted to shoot every time and not play defense.
Speaker 1: He got his shots last night too. Yeah, right, case
Speaker 1: of crowd. He's like, I'm in, finally, I'm in, give
Speaker 1: me the ball.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: It was six shots in ten minutes.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 1: So okay, let's jump to some of the Western Conference teams.
Speaker 1: Will start with Devin Booker leading the Suns past the
Speaker 1: Jazz one oh five ninety seven. Sons have won eight straight.
Speaker 1: We had Luca getting a triple double to help Dallas
Speaker 1: down Portland one thirty two to one to twelve. John
Speaker 1: Morant special again. I think he had forty one. In
Speaker 1: the end, Grizzlies beat the Spurs one eighteen one ten
Speaker 1: and the Clippers they rallied for the second straight night
Speaker 1: the top the Magic one to eleven one O two
Speaker 1: and I'm poking for back. I brought up the ESPN
Speaker 1: Stats and Info tweet because it was like, oh, these
Speaker 1: Clippers have done it again. They were down fourteen points
Speaker 1: in like early second quarter. Tray says it all the time,
Speaker 1: first afletes, they don't they're not real, they don't really count.
Speaker 1: And it's and I know Schumann has numbers that like say, well,
Speaker 1: of course it matters. You get a big lead, you're
Speaker 1: more likely to win the game, But so many times
Speaker 1: that lead is down to what three or if not
Speaker 1: gone in the second half. Anyway, I thought it was
Speaker 1: funny that they were pushing that Clippers come back and
Speaker 1: they got the victory in the end, but the Suns tapped. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, I made it. The question for today's show
Speaker 1: was how realistic is a Sun's heat NBA Finals? Like
Speaker 1: can you can you see that at But yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's a doubt that that could
Speaker 2: be a finals. Yeah, the heat are real, The Suns
Speaker 2: are real. You know if you like doing those types
Speaker 2: of wagers where you make both teams as part of
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, that's probably bet It's a juicy one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: nobody likes betting on the Suns for some reason. Everybody
Speaker 2: likes betting on the Warriors in the West and the Heat, yes,
Speaker 2: or below people's minds, below the nets and below the bucks.
Speaker 2: So sure, yeah, let's.
Speaker 1: Throw up the Western conference standings, JD. Because the Suns
Speaker 1: still don't have double digit losses, which is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: Like they are on pace. This is like a sixty
Speaker 1: five win season here, and they just look like a juggernaut.
Speaker 1: They're three and a half games clear of the Warriors
Speaker 1: in second, Grizzlies a little bit back from them, the
Speaker 1: Jazz of just like you know, with missing half of
Speaker 1: their guys, have fallen quite drastically down to fourth with
Speaker 1: the MAVs and the Nuggets right there, Trey, look at
Speaker 1: this crop.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe they're goosing those Suns numbers thirty eight
Speaker 3: and nine. I mean, they're obviously they're the favorite right now,
Speaker 3: and I don't see how you can be against it. It
Speaker 3: feels like deja vu every time you read an AP
Speaker 3: report about a Phoenix Suns game, Devin book over. Devin
Speaker 3: Booker carried the Suns for three quarters, Chris Paul shut
Speaker 3: the door in the fourth quarter. Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3: I know Booker scored there at the end, but didn't
Speaker 3: take a shot until about four minutes left in the fourth.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. It works perfectly.
Speaker 3: They said it took us a little bit to figure
Speaker 3: it out, and that's definitely true because at the beginning
Speaker 3: of last season. I remember we were talking all the time.
Speaker 3: It was a little bit too much of your turn,
Speaker 3: my turn, your turn, my turn? Am I taken over?
Speaker 3: Are you taking over? They seem to have found what's
Speaker 3: working for him, so, I mean, you know, of what,
Speaker 3: fifty five sixty percent of the way through the season
Speaker 3: gotta be the Suns. As for the Eastern Conference, it
Speaker 3: feels a lot more open to me. Yeah, because the
Speaker 3: Warriors they're really struggling right now.
Speaker 1: It's so funny you tweeted that about Devin Booker leads
Speaker 1: the Sons for the first three quarters and Chris Paul
Speaker 1: takes over the fourth. I thought the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: I was actually going to tweet the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: Is like it is like groundhog Day with the Suns.
Speaker 1: It feels like it every time. And now Booker will
Speaker 1: have like a stinker of a game every once in
Speaker 1: a while. But of course he can do like this
Speaker 1: forty three point performance, have an awesome three quarters. He
Speaker 1: really is like the He's like this team if they're
Speaker 1: a baseball team. He goes like, all right, it gives
Speaker 1: you a good seven or eight innings. And then Chris
Speaker 1: Paul is the closer. He's like the Dennis Eckersley. Is
Speaker 1: that a guy anymore? That guy mustache? Oh great sash? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the dominant closer these days? Yeah, who is it?
Speaker 2: Tests you like baseball, there's there's there's there's one. I
Speaker 2: don't know his.
Speaker 1: Name, okay, but you know, people.
Speaker 2: Don't believe in relief pitchers like they used to back
Speaker 2: in miney. What do you mean, wow, relief pachers. Relief
Speaker 2: pitchers are a diamond, doesn't well, because we're going longer,
Speaker 2: people understand that starters shouldn't go as.
Speaker 1: Well, right, yes, yes, yes, yes, I mean.
Speaker 2: It's unfortunate guys going for a perfect game through five
Speaker 2: or six and.
Speaker 1: He gets disgusting.
Speaker 2: Don't want to see him three times through the lineup.
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, but come on, bring
Speaker 2: us back to the old guy. If a guy's got
Speaker 2: a no hitter, I'm sick of this.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be able to come out.
Speaker 2: Multi multi pitcher, no hitter. I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 2: And so there are a lot of Dennis Eckers out there.
Speaker 2: You need a new closer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you don't give me one.
Speaker 2: Well I don't. You've got a computer, go with her,
Speaker 2: Go local.
Speaker 3: Go Tyler Matsik he wasn't really the Braves closer. He
Speaker 3: was their setup guy. But this guy was lights out
Speaker 3: in the series.
Speaker 1: You were watching the guest I don't really get I
Speaker 1: could never pick him out of the lineup though.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: What about the millennium closer, Will Smith. Yeah, there's two
Speaker 1: Will Smith in baseball, that's right. They faced each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, former Braves closer led the league in saves
Speaker 3: this season.
Speaker 1: How many? It's not a lot anymore? Thirty nine?
Speaker 3: I mean, is Bobby Thigpen he had a fifty seven time.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Eric Gane ever talked. Yeah, Mark Milansen,
Speaker 3: though Mark Melanson was the leader in saves this season.
Speaker 2: Are you sure he's not a goalie saving things as
Speaker 2: a goalie. That sounds like a French Canadian goalie who
Speaker 2: got mark my hey, he got into it with the
Speaker 2: police officer Atlanta Parade.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm getting better with my my timely baseball references
Speaker 1: with Eckersley. I I used to always say Tom Hanky.
Speaker 2: Is older than Tom Hanky. I mean they're basically Tom.
Speaker 1: Hanky looked like he was seven years old he was playing.
Speaker 1: Those are the good old days with closers. Were closers
Speaker 1: right when a baseball player could wear glasses.
Speaker 3: I just know if there's a baseball player that wears
Speaker 3: glasses currently, there's God, it's.
Speaker 2: Gotta be some cool goggles of Yeah, goggles are too
Speaker 2: cool now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, anyway, we believe in a Sun's Heat final, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it could definitely happen. I love, I would love.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing some some uh some a deep
Speaker 1: dive on bet MGM and try and find what type
Speaker 1: of odgy you can get on that. You know, I'd
Speaker 1: put a little coin on that.
Speaker 3: What about the Bucks? You're big on the Bucks. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's probably a Buck Suns final. Yeah, they need brook
Speaker 3: Low puts back. I don't believe in the Bucks until
Speaker 3: I see more on the no.
Speaker 1: Offense, no offense, no offense. I'm taking no fence, any
Speaker 1: anything else tasks from the Western Conference standings or any
Speaker 1: of those games that I did sort of fly through
Speaker 1: there with the Suns winning, the Mavericks winning, the Grizzlies winning,
Speaker 1: and the Clippers.
Speaker 2: Well, I was a Clippers fan at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the season to have a big run in the Western Conference.
Speaker 2: The fact that they're staying afloat with out Paul George
Speaker 2: and kwhile entered these two huge come from behind victories,
Speaker 2: including the Orlando Magic fourteen point comeback last night. They're
Speaker 2: twenty five and twenty five. They're still around, They're still there,
Speaker 2: they won't drop out, are not going anywhere. And the
Speaker 2: other thing is.
Speaker 3: Sorry, man, I got I got tangled up in my
Speaker 3: chair with these cords.
Speaker 1: I got too many chords on me right now.
Speaker 2: Like that when you did the no offense, you got
Speaker 2: you got jangled in cords no offense, but you got
Speaker 2: too many cords.
Speaker 1: I do. I'm taking a little offense.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tap out here while you talk about the
Speaker 3: Western Cords.
Speaker 2: Take care of that, Rob Cordrey. I will take care
Speaker 2: of the Memphis Grizzlies. One thing about John Morant. We
Speaker 2: talked about the Rising Stars Challenge, the tweaks to Friday
Speaker 2: Night as geeks are, you know, looking forward to Friday Night?
Speaker 2: For once, John Morant can bless us with the skills
Speaker 2: challenged participation.
Speaker 1: Why the skills challenge.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's the worst part of Saturday Night.
Speaker 1: He's gonna bless us. I'm going in it is winning it.
Speaker 2: Well going Is there a cooler player on the dribble
Speaker 2: this year, the.
Speaker 1: Coolest player in the league, and put him in the
Speaker 1: least cool event of all time and even see if
Speaker 1: he can save it.
Speaker 2: I guess, well, no one else can say that he's
Speaker 2: gonna be. He's gonna be in the All Star Game.
Speaker 2: They're gonna force the skills challenge on us. There's a
Speaker 2: there's a sponsor. I don't know if it's Taco Bell
Speaker 2: or Taco Bell. Yeah, maybe it's Mountain Dew doing the
Speaker 2: do I guess that's a three ball competition because there's
Speaker 2: a Mountain Dew spot out there. But he's gonna he'll
Speaker 2: go behind the back end the skills challenge sets. He'll
Speaker 2: let the ball go in front of him. He'll have
Speaker 2: his back to the bucket and hit the layup. That way, he'll.
Speaker 1: Be the only John can save the skills.
Speaker 2: You want to see Patrick Beverley again or do you
Speaker 2: want to see you're gonna be watching it? I want
Speaker 2: to be watching it.
Speaker 1: Of course. We did two shows once on Horse, two
Speaker 1: podcasts we did on Horse.
Speaker 3: Damn Dark Times.
Speaker 1: We knew every nooking cranny of Mike con We were
Speaker 1: looking at the mural for crying out. No, okay, John
Speaker 1: mort save us. I thought you were John Morett going
Speaker 1: the dawnk contest man Dunk sources see he's still He
Speaker 1: has said he's not going in, so he probably is not.
Speaker 1: You're right, but come on, that's what we need, John Morant.
Speaker 1: Obi topping apparently is going to go back in it.
Speaker 1: Remember he was in it last year, but that last
Speaker 1: years dunk cons didn't count those poor guys having a
Speaker 1: dunk in front of nobody. That's rough. So the word
Speaker 1: is that Obi toppin is going to run it back.
Speaker 1: So hopefully they'll put on a.
Speaker 2: Show for us.
Speaker 1: Okay, anything else about the Western Conference, but it is.
Speaker 3: It is the Taco Bell Skills Challenge. They still got it.
Speaker 3: Locked down.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, in a couple of weeks we'll find
Speaker 1: out the participants in all of those events.
Speaker 2: The dunk a Ruse dunk contest has to happen. We
Speaker 2: had dunk a ruse as a little as the dessert
Speaker 2: in one of our ads a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2: So I'm still thinking about dunk a ruse. That's true,
Speaker 2: a ruse. It's like a chicken wing. I couldn't. I
Speaker 2: forget about it for years and then oh yeah those exist.
Speaker 2: Then I'll forget about it again until they go ahead,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 3: AT and T sponsors the slam dunk contest. Mountain Dew
Speaker 3: sponsors the three point contact words. It's backwards, yeah, call
Speaker 3: in long distance. That's AT and T. They I think
Speaker 3: they used to the mountain though it's Mountain Dew. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe they just wanted to change.
Speaker 1: AT and T at one point did the three point contest.
Speaker 1: But you're right now they do the dunk stupid.
Speaker 2: But there's the code red. You're going to shoot this
Speaker 2: ball from far away Mountain Dew code red.
Speaker 1: What that's still a thing. It was, for sure. I
Speaker 1: thought they got rid of those extra spots though, those
Speaker 1: long balls. It's all about the Clorox clutch Challenge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: big clutch heads. All right, we'll take our first break.
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Speaker 1: No, we should. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, we should.
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Speaker 1: comments below. First one, Hey guys, I recently saw a
Speaker 1: tweet stating that Devin Booker had thirteen thirty plus point
Speaker 1: games this season, probably fourteen now after going for forty
Speaker 1: three last night. The only other son to join him
Speaker 1: on that list with one, Frank Kaminski.
Speaker 2: Surprising, surprising.
Speaker 1: I thought that was crazy, which leads me to my question,
Speaker 1: what other crazy stats can you think of where a
Speaker 1: random player joins an elite group of players for a
Speaker 1: specific accomplishment. That's from Aaron C. Do anybody fact check
Speaker 1: him on this?
Speaker 2: It's correct that that's amazing.
Speaker 1: It is so Booker has now fourteen games of thirty
Speaker 1: plus points.
Speaker 2: No one else has a thirty.
Speaker 1: Chris doesn't have one. And Kaminski, Frank, that's.
Speaker 2: Chris Paul's high as twenty seven this year.
Speaker 1: Oh the other night. Yeah, okay, so do you have
Speaker 1: a I thought this was a very difficult question. An
Speaker 1: answer to this, what other crazy stats can you think
Speaker 1: of where a random player joins in a leade group
Speaker 1: of players for a specific calash.
Speaker 2: I veered a little bit, just a little bit, because
Speaker 2: I went to for an all time accomplishment. Scott Skiles
Speaker 2: has the all time w record for most assists in
Speaker 2: a game with thirty. Scott Skyles is no John Stockton,
Speaker 2: maybe Lee. If Lee was here, he'd say Scott Skiles
Speaker 2: is better than John Stockton. Not even he would say that.
Speaker 2: But Scott Skiles has fewer assists than Kirk Heinrich in
Speaker 2: his career. Scott Sgous fewer assists than Jared Jack in
Speaker 2: his career. Wow, Kemba Walker has one more assist than
Speaker 2: Scott Skiles had in his career, which is really weird.
Speaker 2: But Scott Skyles is one hundred and thirtieth all time
Speaker 2: and it's just odd that he has the record for
Speaker 2: thirty assists.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 2: That's a good one, yeah, And it brings us a
Speaker 2: little connection to last night's game. The Hornets scored one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty eight. Scott Skyles had thirty assists when
Speaker 2: the Magic scored one hundred and fifty five points in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety so for thirty plus years he's been holding
Speaker 2: that mark and no one's really come close.
Speaker 1: Now, what's the closest.
Speaker 2: Kevin Porter? Not Kevin Porter's junior's dad had twenty nine
Speaker 2: points or twenty nine assists a long time ago. He's
Speaker 2: second all time. And then Stockton is in a three
Speaker 2: way tie with Koozzi and Guy Rodgers who did it
Speaker 2: way back, way back, way back. But Stockton is the
Speaker 2: guy up on this list that's most recent. Nobody has
Speaker 2: had wow from in my eyes here more than twenty four,
Speaker 2: So twenty five or over since nineteen ninety three or something.
Speaker 3: I got Rondo twenty five and twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Okay, and there you go. That's the one. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: the one. Twenty five is the highest. Nice Yeah, NBA
Speaker 2: single game assists leader, Skyles Porter, Coozy, Roger Stockton, Houston Stockton, Stockton,
Speaker 2: Di Gregorio, and Kevin Porter. Four time assists leader Kevin Porter.
Speaker 2: But that's that's a shocker to me. I guess you gotta.
Speaker 1: Score a lott of.
Speaker 2: Points and one guy has to be the assist man.
Speaker 2: And it helps to go back to a traditional point
Speaker 2: guard as well, like LaMelo shoots a lot and we'll
Speaker 2: get the out of his hands a lot. Like Skyles
Speaker 2: didn't shoot, you know, as much or so he just
Speaker 2: he just dished. That's why Stockton's up there as well.
Speaker 2: To get to that thirty mark, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need your teammates to just be hitting every
Speaker 1: single shot they take. You're just like here, you need
Speaker 1: to do like, yeah, just pass it to Kelly Ubrey
Speaker 1: last night, he's gonna hit three every single time. You
Speaker 1: need a couple guys to be doing that to get
Speaker 1: over twenty five. Yeah, thirty, Well, it's pretty amazing. It's
Speaker 1: not been eclipsed in that one yet. With the points
Speaker 1: that teams get up now in today's game, it as well.
Speaker 2: Ryno kind of makes sense because he's just a disher. Yep, yep,
Speaker 2: So twenty five that sort of makes sense. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta have a huge scoring night.
Speaker 1: What about you trade? You have another answer to this.
Speaker 3: I'm just checking in here to see, like how many
Speaker 3: teams even average thirty assists per game. I know that's
Speaker 3: pretty rare. Yeah, twenty seven point eight assists per game
Speaker 3: is the leader the santan Tonio Spurs. This could be
Speaker 3: the Joe DiMaggio record never broken. I wonder I wonderful
Speaker 3: we'll ever see a thirty one assist game for me.
Speaker 3: Though his name got mentioned earlier in the show, Donielle
Speaker 3: Marshall being one of the all time single game three
Speaker 3: point record holder for years. He's a thirty five percent
Speaker 3: career three point shooter. Took to a game, but that
Speaker 3: one year four to oh five his career best percentage
Speaker 3: forty one point six. That's his career best when he
Speaker 3: was actually like a rotation player. He had some small
Speaker 3: minute success as well, but very weird to see Donielle
Speaker 3: Marshall up there alongside Kobe Bryant. Kobe did it in
Speaker 3: two thousand and three, Donielle Marshall tied him with twelve
Speaker 3: in two thousand and five, and then they held that
Speaker 3: record together until Steph Curry in twenty sixteen he hit
Speaker 3: twelve to tie him, finally broken by Klay Thompson fourteen
Speaker 3: and twenty eighteen. But like the top five for single
Speaker 3: game threes, Kobe, Steph Clay, Zach Lavine, and Danielle Marshall,
Speaker 3: I mean Zach Lavine, at least he's a forty percent
Speaker 3: three point shooter it's very weird to see Donielle Marshall
Speaker 3: up there.
Speaker 2: I was right when Lang Whittaker, Man, Lang Whittaker compared
Speaker 2: Donielle Marshall to Scottie Barnes. When I was upset about that, Right,
Speaker 2: I was right to be upset, is what I'm saying
Speaker 2: about that language. To make comparison of Doniel Marshall to
Speaker 2: Scottie Barnes.
Speaker 3: You think that's you think Scottie Barnes is going to
Speaker 3: be better than Donnelle Marshall in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Yet his Lang's response was, Doniel Marshall was great at Ucon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a good college player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some hope here for Scottie Barnes' career to
Speaker 2: be better than Donielle Marshall.
Speaker 1: I hope so right, Yeah, I think his ceiling is
Speaker 1: a little higher. But Donie Marshall had.
Speaker 2: A good career. He had a good career. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: next one, no answer for that one? Yeah, okay, some fellas,
Speaker 2: Despite the constant discussion of a Ben Simmons trade, no
Speaker 2: one seems to even be considering that he could be
Speaker 2: improving his jump shot while training for his inevitable return
Speaker 2: to the court. It appears the world has given up
Speaker 2: on the idea of Simmons getting better at shooting. What's
Speaker 2: something you've given up on the idea of getting better
Speaker 2: at That's from Nick j in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: So, well, what do you think the odds are Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons got a jump shot when he does return to
Speaker 1: the NBA, that'd be amazing. Twist of that just suddenly
Speaker 1: a fort point shooter, that would be unreal. I think
Speaker 1: the odds are low though. To answer the question, well,
Speaker 1: you guys know, and I think I've said it on
Speaker 1: the podcast couple of times. This is uh. This year,
Speaker 1: I've started helping my buddy Grish, your buddy Grish, our
Speaker 1: buddy Grish coach youth basketball. First time I've ever done it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm like the assistant coach helping out six year olds.
Speaker 1: So it's pandemonium out there. Team's getting better though, We've
Speaker 1: seen some improvements from week to week, but at a
Speaker 1: certain point with kids that age, you sort of just
Speaker 1: like have to stop thinking they're ever going to like
Speaker 1: get back on defense, not all go to the ball.
Speaker 1: We got some pretty aggressive some defenders on our team.
Speaker 1: Some we got called for a couple of fouls because
Speaker 1: they're just like guys. You can't hack at them like
Speaker 1: they think it's football at times a little bit. So
Speaker 1: at a certain point you're like, all right, it is
Speaker 1: what it is as long as they're having fun and
Speaker 1: nobody's getting hurt. But you know, we're really trying to like, okay,
Speaker 1: come on here, like you forget. Like at least it
Speaker 1: was difficult for me. It's like it feels like we're
Speaker 1: like we're almost like coaching the high school kids and
Speaker 1: we're like, wait, we're not. These are six year old.
Speaker 1: It's like what are we trying to do here? So
Speaker 1: just like we're trying right now to instill one pass
Speaker 1: because everybody just wants to shoot, and that's sad. We've
Speaker 1: had some success with one pass. Some kids get it,
Speaker 1: some kids don't. But the defense, you know, we were
Speaker 1: like talking about it. Are we doing man? Are we
Speaker 1: doing zone? What are we running out here? It's like nothing.
Speaker 1: Just all our defense now is when they miss a shot,
Speaker 1: just get the ball. That's defense, box out drills.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't kids get one pass? They should? They
Speaker 2: should understand some of them do.
Speaker 1: Some of them do. But I think the main thing
Speaker 1: is we're trying to tell them when you pass the ball,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you're not going to get it back.
Speaker 1: But in their head, it's like, well, soon as the
Speaker 1: balls out of my hands, it's never getting back to me.
Speaker 1: It's like they're playing with a bunch of cam reddishes
Speaker 1: out there, but you're like, no, you can get the
Speaker 1: ball back to you. So I think that's the issue.
Speaker 3: Kid's notoriously good at sharing. Yeah, yeah, it might be
Speaker 3: why they don't want to pass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but shooting is hard. I bet I bet their
Speaker 2: shots are passes because they're not even hitting the rim.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, like six year old, Yeah, how high are
Speaker 2: how are these rims?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: Low?
Speaker 1: They're like seven and a half fet high? Yeah, they
Speaker 1: got guys dunking out there. No, no, no. So that's
Speaker 1: to me, it's like at a certain point, you just
Speaker 1: had to do it. Okay, we're not gonna that will
Speaker 1: not be taught to them at this age, and that's fine.
Speaker 1: Who cares, right, And it's defense, Trey. We shouldn't even
Speaker 1: be teaching them defense anyway.
Speaker 3: Why would you want to teach a kid defense?
Speaker 1: What a waste?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're never going to use it. It's like math,
Speaker 3: you got to learn it. They tell you you're going
Speaker 3: to use it in the future, but you will. Nope,
Speaker 3: you don't have to. You can get by without it.
Speaker 3: They put every number you ever need on the internet.
Speaker 1: What what do you have for this? I'm never going to.
Speaker 3: Practice spike ball. I would love to be better at
Speaker 3: spike ball. I would love to be able to do
Speaker 3: like chest bumps. You see the highlights you see like
Speaker 3: really like they'll be running super far back, have a
Speaker 3: beautifully touched shot back to somebody. But I'm never going
Speaker 3: to spend my time learning how to play spike ball.
Speaker 3: It's just going to be like, oh, we're playing spike
Speaker 3: ball this weekend. Great, I'll be there starting from square
Speaker 3: one again.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it'll be great. Many times I'll just be laughing
Speaker 3: and looking like a fool out there. Maybe one highlight
Speaker 3: per day, you know, like one cool hit per day.
Speaker 3: I'm happy. But I will never invest time trying to
Speaker 3: get better at spike ball. I just want it to
Speaker 3: happen naturally.
Speaker 1: Well, like, how would you even get better? I guess
Speaker 1: just join a league. I guess would be the real Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would never do that.
Speaker 3: I guess you could set your spike ball near a wall,
Speaker 3: back and forth a wall, Like that's how you would
Speaker 3: get better at tennis or ping pong. Maybe, you know,
Speaker 3: like if we got the second half of this table,
Speaker 3: you fold half of it up, never for spike ball.
Speaker 3: I would also like, I can't imagine being like, hey, tass,
Speaker 3: what are you doing today? You want to get together
Speaker 3: and just non competitive, just me and you spiking back
Speaker 3: and forth, working on our skills. You would say, no, good,
Speaker 3: but bring your canoe we're hitting the water. That I'd
Speaker 3: be a lot more fun to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're into tennis right now.
Speaker 1: I'm also bad at tennis? Are you gonna try? I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say it like at our age as
Speaker 1: we get older, like, are you going to commit yourself
Speaker 1: to practicing the new sport? That's yeah, that's I think
Speaker 1: that's tough.
Speaker 3: No, my practice will be before we start playing the games.
Speaker 3: You know, you get there, you hit a few times,
Speaker 3: it feels like the first time, it feels like the
Speaker 3: very first time, and then you're like, okay, you know,
Speaker 3: I got the sweat going down my back. Let's play
Speaker 3: some games. I'll try and win one.
Speaker 2: I'm six.
Speaker 1: What but to push back on that, actually you saying
Speaker 1: like you won't really practice anything. Didn't you sort of
Speaker 1: practice like fly fishing a little bit? Like you you
Speaker 1: started to learn from a master, right. I went on
Speaker 1: a fishing trip and I learned it once. I haven't
Speaker 1: fly fished since. Okay, I'm not a practicing no, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just naturally going to be the exact same at
Speaker 1: this every time I pick it up.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I don't want to practice golf. And
Speaker 2: I'm saying this now because I want to speak it
Speaker 2: in two existence. I I could see myself getting into golf,
Speaker 2: and there's you know, spending a billion hours playing golf
Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. It's it's like appealing
Speaker 2: on one hand, but I don't want to try and
Speaker 2: get better at it. I just it's just I don't
Speaker 2: want to play golf. But it's such a it's such
Speaker 2: a natural thing. People do it down here, people golf
Speaker 2: down here. But I would rather just go hack once
Speaker 2: every few months and be fine or you know, find
Speaker 2: it bad. Not fine, but like find in my brain,
Speaker 2: I just don't want to get try and get good.
Speaker 2: I mean I like to go I like to go
Speaker 2: hack at a driving range, top golf hack, hack hack,
Speaker 2: but not on a core swear. It's like you and
Speaker 2: in the pin. Oh god, yeah, it just it takes forever,
Speaker 2: like I see our friend Larry Luco out there. If
Speaker 2: you're good, it'll take under four hours, but if you're bad,
Speaker 2: it can take a long time.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to play.
Speaker 2: I'd rather watch one.
Speaker 1: Rule I've learned being a ship golfer eighteen not for me.
Speaker 1: Play nine. You're happy. It's like barbecue song. All right, great,
Speaker 1: similar answers there in a weird way. Okay, final one
Speaker 1: here this is there's not really a question attached to this,
Speaker 1: but we need to get this information out to everybody.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: No, Dungk's crew just wanted to inform you about Stance socks.
Speaker 1: I know you were having a disagreement about where the
Speaker 1: logo went. Stance is basically my life and my favorite brand.
Speaker 1: The Stance logo, if it is on the ankle, goes
Speaker 1: on the inside, is what Trey was saying. It's the
Speaker 1: way the models wear them and the way most of
Speaker 1: the ones that are labeled left or right show. However,
Speaker 1: for certain types of socks like basketball and hiking socks,
Speaker 1: the Stance logo goes on the outside. Hope this helps
Speaker 1: go Stance go hornets. That's from material stans.
Speaker 3: Are looking good this year. They got a chance. Dance
Speaker 3: has a chance in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this, I mean, really, this didn't help anything
Speaker 1: if we're being honest, like the it's just more confusing.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Why because it goes in
Speaker 2: concert with a couple of comments we've had. Eric on
Speaker 2: our YouTube channel said, stance logo always got to be
Speaker 2: on the inside. Reese says, it's on the inside. The
Speaker 2: logo pops when you sit with one foot on top
Speaker 2: of the other knee. This is the point. This is
Speaker 2: This is the point. If you're not playing a sport. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the only way you're gonna see it is if you
Speaker 2: have it up on the other knee. That's the only
Speaker 2: you're going to see it. So it's about visibility. That's
Speaker 2: when you're going to see it. When you see people
Speaker 2: speaking at a panel, when do you see their socks?
Speaker 2: That's when you see them when they've got there.
Speaker 1: It was but okay, so but the basketball socks, hiking socks, whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're in theory wearing shorts, yes, then the stance
Speaker 1: logo is on the outside.
Speaker 2: That's when you're going to see it more. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to see the inside of your ankle more.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're this guy props. All right, so's show it
Speaker 1: off here. This is a basketball sock for everybody listening
Speaker 1: to the pod, showing us a bunch of Stance socks.
Speaker 3: As you can see, standard sock on the outside, NBA
Speaker 3: logo inside ankle. Okay, Stance logo.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, because you're not going to see it
Speaker 1: really well yeah, okay, Well this was during the NBA era.
Speaker 3: They I think Stance had like the NBA contract for
Speaker 3: a year. This is when that happened. So you know
Speaker 3: number one brand at that time has to be the NBA.
Speaker 3: Right right, there's another one. This is a basketball sock.
Speaker 3: This one is labeled for the right foot and as
Speaker 3: you can see, the logo would be on the outside. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: left foot also on the outside.
Speaker 1: All socks.
Speaker 3: The way the socks are these are like these are
Speaker 3: like Kyle Korver tied eye socks. These are insane. These
Speaker 3: are only only worn under a boot. And then this
Speaker 3: is the mystery. Okay, unopened. I didn't know for these
Speaker 3: because I couldn't figure out where to put the logo.
Speaker 1: Tune in for popping socks.
Speaker 3: You see just look just labeled large, just large. This
Speaker 3: is just a normal sock of big, big sock from
Speaker 3: my big feet. Choose your own adventure. You're putting the
Speaker 3: logo on the inside of the outside. You can do
Speaker 3: it either way.
Speaker 1: Oh, because I see what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I would go logo on the inside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because because I do like the model. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: always modeling the inside cross.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's like stance, make up your minds.
Speaker 1: Take a take a stance.
Speaker 3: Stance, Take a stance, stance, take a stance on me.
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Speaker 1: tweet of the night.
Speaker 2: Tweet of the night. Wow, Yeah, I've got to tweeted
Speaker 2: the night.
Speaker 6: And to be honest, U, it snuck up on me
Speaker 6: like it normally does. Like it Uh, it surprised me.
Speaker 6: So why does it surprise you? Because I always forget
Speaker 6: and then I'll sort of I'll be looking at the
Speaker 6: doc like, oh, what have we got today? Blah blah
Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah, and it's like a fuck. I've
Speaker 6: got tweeted the night.
Speaker 1: So you don't look at the dock until the morning.
Speaker 6: Well, I never look at the bottom half of it
Speaker 6: because it's you know, it's our usual stuff to the second. Oh,
Speaker 6: I know we got pick him. I know we got
Speaker 6: tweeter to night. But it's always like crap shooting. I'm
Speaker 6: always like crap, I've got tweet the night.
Speaker 4: But so what I usually do?
Speaker 6: You know, I scramble and I jump into Slack and uh,
Speaker 6: you know, so I'm just gonna it's basically Slack of
Speaker 6: the night. In fact, I grabbed the Slack screen grab. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and it was Trey disdropped it in the drop channel.
Speaker 6: And this was meant to be a rapid fire question.
Speaker 6: But it's a tweet from game Spot and uh, it's
Speaker 6: it's a picture of the Rock from Santa Dres I believe.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: And it says the Rock is making another video game movie,
Speaker 6: but he won't say which franchise. Crazy right, Uh, And
Speaker 6: you know in the article he went on to say, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, it's a classic. I've played this game. I
Speaker 6: love it. We're gonna do the the player the video
Speaker 6: game players, right, And it's a he says it's the
Speaker 6: biggest most badass games to come to this screed.
Speaker 4: I've played it for a year.
Speaker 6: So what is well, we don't know, but there was
Speaker 6: a response from a.
Speaker 2: Has that not been made?
Speaker 4: I don't know, like it's been.
Speaker 6: Made but maybe not actually, but I saw in the
Speaker 6: replies to game spot, uh this photoshop of the role
Speaker 6: as the dude I don't know his name from God
Speaker 6: of War and it's obviously that it has to be that, right,
Speaker 6: I mean it looks Yeah. So anyway, getting back to
Speaker 6: the slack of the night, the question up there is
Speaker 6: what video game should they make into a movie? So
Speaker 6: I pose a question to you, guys, I mean put
Speaker 6: me down for a Zelda, I mean straight link. Yeah,
Speaker 6: the arena of time. I've never seen a video game
Speaker 6: movie that I've liked. I don't think, like, has there
Speaker 6: been a good one?
Speaker 1: I mean I can't print a more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess hit Man wasn't like markin Alberg and
Speaker 3: hit Man or something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Judge Dread, that's not that's not a video comic book.
Speaker 6: First, actually, the judge, the Carl Urban Judge Dread.
Speaker 4: You should watch it. It's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but based on a comics, based.
Speaker 4: On a comic, not a video game.
Speaker 1: What about cool Spot?
Speaker 4: Cool Spot?
Speaker 1: It's a video game. Never heard of the game cool Spot.
Speaker 3: I brought it up on the show Seven Up Game
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I told the story that I wrecked it from my
Speaker 1: local convenience store and I beat it in like an hour,
Speaker 1: and I took it back and they let me just
Speaker 1: swap it for another game. It's like, I beat this.
Speaker 3: That is that hard handed, and said, make seven up yours.
Speaker 3: Give me a new game that sounds like a great
Speaker 3: rock line. Makes seven Up Yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: People are saying that, uh, Max Payne was a Mark Wahlberg,
Speaker 3: but I don't know the rock.
Speaker 2: What did he do?
Speaker 1: He did rampage?
Speaker 4: Right, he did a rampage. He's done. He was in Doom.
Speaker 4: I think oh Real, which is a video game.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, Uh do.
Speaker 1: You have an answer to this? Then another like, you
Speaker 1: know video game series like like Zelda that you'd like
Speaker 1: to see made into a movie. I haven't played it,
Speaker 1: but Red Dead Redemption looks pretty cool. I played the
Speaker 1: first one.
Speaker 3: I'm loving westerns. I mind seeing the rock in a western.
Speaker 1: She had him on a horse. What's a rock and everything?
Speaker 4: Weird to see a guy that jack wild West like usual.
Speaker 6: We have around the camp exactly most of the time.
Speaker 6: They have scurvy and tuberculosis like that real dead wood
Speaker 6: and they were like alcoholics too. Yeah, be very hard
Speaker 6: to picture him as a in a Western, but i'd
Speaker 6: see the horse too.
Speaker 1: Oh did you have an answer for this?
Speaker 2: Or I was gonna go with Zelda as well? Wow? Yeah,
Speaker 2: because that's the only one I've played of everyone that
Speaker 2: we've said, I'm surprised they haven't made a Zelda movie.
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, is there a Mario Brothers movie?
Speaker 3: But yeah, movie John Loamo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh so that's old though at this point it's
Speaker 1: really old.
Speaker 6: I think Bob Hoskins, a guy from from Saving Roger
Speaker 6: Rabbit and John Legg was that's a crazy I can't
Speaker 6: be right. As it came out of my mouth, I
Speaker 6: was like, I can't be right, but maybe it's right.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Zelda seems to be the end. Like did
Speaker 1: anybody watch the Sonic movies. I know there's a there is.
Speaker 6: Apparently it's not bad. That's when people said sixty eight
Speaker 6: percent on Rotten Tomatoes, so that's that's pretty good. The
Speaker 6: Angry Birds too. The movie is like the highest rate
Speaker 6: of video game movie on Rotten Tomatoes. It's like seventy
Speaker 6: three percent. Wow, I said, goddamn delight apparently, so okay,
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from everybody out there. I'm sure the stream
Speaker 1: team's chiming in with some good answers. Video games you'd
Speaker 1: like to see being made into movies? What about NBA Jam?
Speaker 6: It's not a bad idea, And honestly, like after the
Speaker 6: two Space Jams, you know, you could digitally bring these
Speaker 6: guys back to life like in their youth and have
Speaker 6: flaming balls, and I bet it would be a much
Speaker 6: more compelling story than both Space Jams put together.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, along the same lines, because I used to
Speaker 1: love this game, Super Spike Volleyball because like you had
Speaker 1: to like you had to go through the world circuits
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not a bad idea. Let's just make
Speaker 4: it a straight up sports movie. Yeah right.
Speaker 3: It'd be like you take White Men Can't Jump, and
Speaker 3: you set it on the beach is playing all these
Speaker 3: tournaments and you have the big guys, the quick, skinny guys,
Speaker 3: a team of all bigs. That would be that'd be
Speaker 3: the rock Man. Maybe the Rock and Vin can smooth
Speaker 3: things over, be a team.
Speaker 1: People's if the answer to this the Rock is teasing
Speaker 1: us is super spiked. I'm one of the big guys.
Speaker 5: I've played this game my whole life. I'm doing justice
Speaker 5: to the big guy characters. Oh I still love that game.
Speaker 5: It's it's it's still holds up. Like a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago, me and my buddy Dub we had it.
Speaker 5: Somebody had the Nintendo system and it's like it's still
Speaker 5: like difficult enough. It's obviously you know, there's two buttons,
Speaker 5: so you can pick it up pretty easy.
Speaker 1: But it's fun. That's a great game.
Speaker 2: Never played it. Looking forward to seeing Carrie Walsh Jennings
Speaker 2: on the courts this year in the Olympics. Oh so
Speaker 2: the wind she's retired.
Speaker 1: It's funny you brought up the Winter Olympics. We might
Speaker 1: have a new podcast coming very very soon about that
Speaker 1: squad back in your life soon the Winter Olympics edition.
Speaker 1: That's all I'll say. Pick the results from last night
Speaker 1: Tough One Tasks MAVs Blazers Dallas was faired by four
Speaker 1: and a half everybody took Dallas to cover that except
Speaker 1: for Task. Shorved a little bit took the Blazers that
Speaker 1: got hammered by twenty points in the end. So big
Speaker 1: victory for Trey and Lee. You're seven and ten. Task
Speaker 1: falls to six and eleven on eleven and six here
Speaker 1: in the month of January. Don't want to be last.
Speaker 1: Don't want to be last. Only two games on tonight,
Speaker 1: which on't we do it well?
Speaker 2: Much like talking about video games. I don't really know
Speaker 2: what I'm doing here when it comes to the pick
Speaker 2: and payoffs.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I hate when that happens.
Speaker 2: There are only two games tonight. It's a TNT doubleheader,
Speaker 2: and that fact that it's on TNT makes me believe
Speaker 2: that the Lakers are going to be right going into Phladelphia.
Speaker 2: I think they're on a bit of a run here,
Speaker 2: or they're trying to prove to the league that we're
Speaker 2: playing our best ball of the season. Anthony Davis is there,
Speaker 2: So I'm taking the Lakers to cover two and a
Speaker 2: half point spread against that Sixers are all teams. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Lakers have some bodies to throw at Joel Embiid
Speaker 2: and his run that he's got on going on right
Speaker 2: now with Anthony Davis back, and hell, if they throw
Speaker 2: one of the D's out there and Dwighter or DeAndre,
Speaker 2: it'll be fine for a possession or two hopefully, indeed,
Speaker 2: hopefully Anthony Davis will be out there. But you guys
Speaker 2: are all taking the Sixers, which I understand. I understand.
Speaker 1: It's a nice looking little doubleheader here, Lakers Sixers, Wolves,
Speaker 1: Warriors DNT. This could be two entertaining.
Speaker 2: Game, good for the Wolves to get on national TV.
Speaker 1: And the All Star starters are announced tonight as well,
Speaker 1: so we'll be talking about that, these games and a
Speaker 1: whole lot more on tomorrow's Drop podcast. You can join
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember I'm going to quote
Speaker 2: somebody here from the stream team. Now this isn't necessarily true,
Speaker 2: but this is who he believes The Rock will be playing.
Speaker 2: David De Luis says The Rock will be Shao Khan
Speaker 2: in the Mortal Kombat series Mortal Kombat movie coming out.
Speaker 1: Huh another one.
Speaker 2: There's no way it's okay, there's no way it's that.
Speaker 1: But finish this race. The hey people,