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Speaker 2: What is going on? Party people? I'm hosting the show,

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Speaker 2: so I say party people for some reason. My name

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Speaker 2: is Clint Piscias. That guy over there is Scott Gearman

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Speaker 2: filling in for Alana Rizzo. Today. Welcome to Dodgers Territory,

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Speaker 2: a Monday edition of the show. And today on the show,

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Speaker 2: Scott you already know because we talked about it. We're

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Speaker 2: diving in to the three biggest needs in our view,

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Speaker 2: the three bixed needs for the Dodgers over the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty six offseason. Dodgers just won a World Series.

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Speaker 2: They need to try to run it back. They need

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Speaker 2: to try to get better. How will they get better?

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Speaker 2: There's nobody better I'd like to talk to than Scott

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Speaker 2: about that kind of stuff before we dive into it, though,

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Speaker 2: a reminder, please like the show, rate the show if

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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. So anyways, let's dive in

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Speaker 2: a little bit of pleasantries to begin with, Scott, we

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Speaker 2: haven't talked in a little while. How you doing basking

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Speaker 2: in the glow of back to back World championships.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just you know, excited to be here. It's good

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Speaker 1: to talk to you, man, It's good to be here

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Speaker 1: with the chat. Look, Dodgers back to back champs a

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Speaker 1: to be among all. What you know, the biggest takeaway

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Speaker 1: I had from that, Clint, is that when tickets are

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Speaker 1: you get a crazy atmosphere. So that was really cool

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Speaker 1: the offseason here, but I'm going to continue and enjoy this.

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Speaker 1: As you knows as a fan of a repeat champion team,

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Speaker 1: you know, not much we can complain about. Man, we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough part. It's like, how how soon

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Speaker 2: do you start going, you know, headfirst into looking at

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Speaker 2: next season. We know the front office is, but hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, analysts. We talk about this team, we tell

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Speaker 2: which hasn't been done in twenty five years. Well, that

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Speaker 2: is now done. We don't talk about the Yankees anymore,

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Speaker 2: the ninety nine, two thousand Yankees. We talk about the

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Speaker 2: twenty six Dodgers. They ruined baseball in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: they'll be looking to do it again. And you know what,

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Speaker 2: that's not my problem. Always love this front end again.

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Speaker 2: The concept of today's show, three big needs for the Dodgers,

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Speaker 2: no big surprises. We already talked about this. You know,

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Speaker 2: Now you know early offseason Dodgers need an outfielder Scott.

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Speaker 2: We know this. Michael Confordo was a dud in twenty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, left field for sure. I do have a list

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers really, you know, missed out on having someone,

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Speaker 1: whether it to platoon, bat off the bench, in the

429
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Speaker 1: you know, starting lineup with an outfielder. That's where they

430
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Speaker 1: missed a lot. And I think with Jared Duran, he's

431
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Speaker 1: someone who has plus plus speed, he's an aggressive base runner.

432
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Speaker 1: I don't think the defensive metrics with him are anything

433
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Speaker 1: you can buy into because of the big Green monster

434
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Speaker 1: and Fenway, so playing left field is really tough out there,

435
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Speaker 1: so it's someone that if they're able to do it,

436
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Speaker 1: I believe Jared Duran will be out of Boston because

437
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Speaker 1: of how much outfield depth they have. It's someone that

438
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Speaker 1: I've got right at my one, and then Stephen Kwan

439
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Speaker 1: probably after that. If it's the trade.

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Speaker 2: Route, yeah, trade route. I mean overall, between all the

441
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Speaker 2: names we've kind of talked about, between free agency and trade,

442
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Speaker 2: I honestly think Jared Duran is my number one overall.

443
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Speaker 2: From there, maybe it's Bellinger than Kyle Tucker, than Stephen

444
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Speaker 2: Kwan because I'm weird like that. You know. Again, there

445
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: are just some issues, long term issues with the Kyle

446
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Speaker 2: Tucker thing that that gives me a little pause. They

447
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 2: already have so many contracts. What it's Showy o'tney under

448
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 2: team controlled through twenty twenty three or Sorry twenty thirty three,

449
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 2: Yamamoto twenty thirty five, Mookie twenty thirty two, Will Smith

450
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Speaker 2: twenty thirty three. You know, paying another thirty five million

451
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: dollars for somebody into their forties or almost into their forties,

452
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Speaker 2: it's it's it can raise an eyebrow, and you don't

453
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Speaker 2: want to end up like the Padres who are stuck

454
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Speaker 2: with all of these very much aging stars who you know,

455
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 2: can't quite figure out how to win. Jaron Durand's name.

456
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Speaker 2: There's another one I wanted to bring up, just to

457
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Speaker 2: potentially maybe ruffle some feathers. But we heard in the

458
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Speaker 2: early in the off season, at least early in Philadelphia's offseason,

459
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Speaker 2: that hey, there's a chance there's a chance the Phillies

460
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Speaker 2: might be entertaining training Bryce Harper. Oh man, I know

461
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 2: it's a stupid idea as the first baseman now, but

462
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 2: if they are going to look to offload some salary,

463
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 2: some payroll there, if they've become disenchanted with with Bryce Harper,

464
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Speaker 2: which I think Dave Dombrowski went on foul foul territory

465
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 2: and said, like, no, we're keeping Bryce Harper. He's not

466
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: going anywhere. He's a part of our plans. You know,

467
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 2: words don't mean much in the offseason. The Dodgers have

468
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: some talent they could stand to cut some payroll. Obviously,

469
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Speaker 2: this is dumb. This is just for me because I

470
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Speaker 2: like to do this because I know it upsets people.

471
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Speaker 2: But could there be a scenario where the Dodgers can

472
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Speaker 2: package something together, get Bryce Harper back over in LA's elbows.

473
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Speaker 2: Not back over, but at least in that eighteen twenty

474
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Speaker 2: nineteen offseason, it felt like he was going to be

475
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Speaker 2: a Dodger. The elbows healed up. He could play left field,

476
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Speaker 2: he could play right field, and we know the bat

477
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Speaker 2: is good. Thoughts on a Bryce Harper potential.

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Speaker 1: Trade, I mean they could do it, They could, The

479
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Speaker 1: Dogs could make anything happen with the contract that the prospects,

480
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Speaker 1: they could make anything happen. The likelihood of it, that

481
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Speaker 1: would spell the end of the Philadelphia Phillies, this little

482
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Speaker 1: window that I think their window has been extended as

483
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Speaker 1: far as it could go. That's why they have some

484
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Speaker 1: big offseason and decisions to make real Muto Schwarber, They've

485
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Speaker 1: got a lot to figure out there, Ranja Suarez. So

486
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Speaker 1: the likelihood of that, I'm going to say like a

487
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Speaker 1: two percent because it's all anything as possible. But if

488
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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper was moved out of Philadelphia, it would spell

489
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Speaker 1: the end of anything they potentially have going on there

490
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Speaker 1: because he's a franchise guy. He is someone who's a

491
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Speaker 1: tone setter. Don't think it's a fit for La. He'd

492
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Speaker 1: be a great, a great piece, but I don't think

493
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Speaker 1: a trade like that, you know, would happen.

494
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Speaker 2: Hey, I was told in the Freddie Freeman offseason there

495
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: was less than ten percent chance of Freddy to come

496
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Speaker 2: into coming to the Dodgers. So give me that little

497
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Speaker 2: bit of an inch. We'll see. I they could take aim.

498
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Speaker 2: While of course Bryce is getting on into age as well,

499
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Speaker 2: so do you want to be still stuck with another

500
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Speaker 2: eight years of contract or whatever. But the limited trade

501
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 2: market might force some creativity. And the thing is ultimately

502
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Speaker 2: the root of it. We had we had a whole

503
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Speaker 2: bunch of conversation last night on my old Dodger show

504
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Speaker 2: of you know, can they run it back almost as is?

505
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Speaker 2: And this team is good enough, They are built enough

506
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Speaker 2: as is right now without you know, major splashes, just

507
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Speaker 2: bringing back, yes, a Miggy Row or maybe a Keiki

508
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: a Hernandez. They have enough talent to at least challenge

509
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Speaker 2: for a title again in twenty twenty six. So right now, yeah, listen,

510
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Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's a house money type

511
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Speaker 2: of offseason, but you're coming off back to back titles.

512
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Speaker 2: Alls you're playing for is the pride of saying you

513
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: went back to back to back, which is pretty damn cool.

514
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Speaker 2: I think it would be an absolute failure if they

515
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Speaker 2: don't make any moves. I think the fan base would

516
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Speaker 2: and should be upset if they didn't make any moves.

517
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Speaker 2: But they don't need to go out and chase a move,

518
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Speaker 2: which is something I absolutely love. That said. They're still

519
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Speaker 2: gonna make a splash in the outfield market. Yeah this winter.

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Speaker 2: Any final thoughts on that field before we switch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look and Chaddill agree with this. We've

522
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Speaker 1: seen this you as well, that the Dodgers in the

523
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Speaker 1: front office just to make moves on the margins. And

524
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Speaker 1: just like you said, it's they're going to continue to

525
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Speaker 1: make moves on the margins here. I think they have

526
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Speaker 1: the pieces everyone forgets. You know, has Kim how he's

527
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Speaker 1: going to factor in the health of Tommy Edmund's ankle?

528
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: Canny Man center field? How much time is he going

529
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Speaker 1: to take? What are they going to do? The trade

530
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: route with the two arbitration years is a sexy route

531
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Speaker 1: for me to take, just in the one year deal thing,

532
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Speaker 1: because I want to have them with the wiggle room

533
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Speaker 1: if these you you know, if if Jared Duran or

534
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Speaker 1: Stephen Kwan, if they work out, then you extend them

535
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Speaker 1: go ahead. If they don't and you want to just

536
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: pay them through arbitration, that's it, and then they go

537
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Speaker 1: free slap a qualifying offer however you want to do it.

538
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Speaker 1: If they haven't already been offered that at some point

539
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Speaker 1: in their career, then you have the opportunity for some

540
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Speaker 1: of the young guys to have that slot open. So

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Speaker 1: that's the route that I think, you know, I prefer,

542
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Speaker 1: and I think the front office is going to pursue initially.

543
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Speaker 1: If not, then they're going to say, maybe we dip.

544
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Speaker 1: Maybe we we you know, we dip into the long

545
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Speaker 1: term stuff. Cody Bellinger can take over at first base,

546
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Speaker 1: you know, after that center field and the outfield dreams

547
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: go ahead. Freddie Is you know, is his contract is up.

548
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Speaker 1: There's routes that they can go that things can work out.

549
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: The Dodgers are, like you said, in a house money

550
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Speaker 1: situation where a lot of maneuvers fit their needs and

551
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: their current trajectory. Uh. And so that's why it's for

552
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: fans don't get too hyped up and you know, to

553
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: upset if they miss out on the big tickets. There's

554
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Speaker 1: a lot of routes that they can take where they're

555
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Speaker 1: an incredible spot. I saw somebody in Chad mentioning that,

556
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Speaker 1: you know, if you get too many of the same guys,

557
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: they're not gonna like the Yankee style hitters. They're not

558
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: gonna have the same success. They just went back to

559
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Speaker 1: back titles. They can do whatever the hell they want.

560
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Speaker 1: They're on a trajectory that they've got the formula that

561
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Speaker 1: can work out for them and they're going to be

562
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Speaker 1: anchored by this starting pitching. So it's just a matter

563
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: of getting the guys that can, you know, fill the slots.

564
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Speaker 1: They need to produce enough runs and enough stuff in

565
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Speaker 1: the clubhouse to make it all work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't need to win the offseason this offseason, and

567
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: that is a really really good position to be in,

568
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Speaker 2: especially when you're coming off of winning a World Series. Well,

569
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Speaker 2: another area that this is this is you know that

570
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Speaker 2: was Big Need number one talking about it for almost

571
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Speaker 2: twenty five minutes, Big Need number two. We know the

572
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Speaker 2: bullpen needs a little bit of help. Maybe this kind

573
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Speaker 2: of an ellipses, and it may be in there because

574
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: there are a bunch of names that are going to

575
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Speaker 2: maybe be available. You know, they're come back being healthy

576
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: at some point you hope Evan Phillips will be back

577
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: from from Tommy John later in the season. You have

578
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Speaker 2: Bruce Dark Gratterol returning next year hopefully. I put this

579
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Speaker 2: graphic up on Thursday's edition of the show. But you

580
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: know a couple of names that are potential starters heading

581
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: into spring training. Yeah, but looking at Kyle Hurt, Ben Casparis,

582
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: Justin Rableski, those three dudes in particular, really really, in

583
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: my opinion, help out this bullpen in twenty twenty six.

584
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Speaker 2: But the same time, there are free agents, there are

585
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: big names out there. There, there's a number of closers.

586
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 2: I am banking on the fact that ten Or Scott

587
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: will be better in twenty twenty six. Maybe not better enough.

588
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: He doesn't need to be the closer in my opinion,

589
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: But I also don't think they need to land a closer.

590
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: But how do you add to a bull pen that

591
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: was non existent By the time we got to Game

592
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: five of the World Series, the bullpen was no no

593
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: the breaking case of emergency. We're sticking with Yamamoto in

594
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: every you know, waking breath that we can and some

595
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: other starters, some of the guys that are out there,

596
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: of course, free agent relievers. You know, the big names.

597
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz, Devin Williams, Robert Suarez bailed out of that

598
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: sinking ship in San Diego. Ryan Helsley's a guy the

599
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: Dodgers have been linked to a number of times. Had

600
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: a really, really bad go of it after being traded

601
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: last year. Pete Fairbanks, who Scott? I think you and

602
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: I could both agree he's just gonna be a Dodger,

603
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: that's a fact. And Kenley Jansen and I threw on

604
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: this list who would love to come back home? Doesn't

605
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: need to be a closer. If he signs her to

606
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: be a closer, I don't want him. But obviously those

607
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: guys make a splash, but all have different levels of

608
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: commitment and money. Edwin Diaz not gonna be a Dodger,

609
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: we could just throw that out there. But any of

610
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: those other names intrigue you, Maybe Devin Williams by low

611
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: right now? Yeah, any of the other names you there

612
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: for this.

613
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Speaker 1: Club, Yeah, Devin Williams. Devin Williams definitely intriguing. He had

614
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: a second half resurgence with the Yankees. There. If it's

615
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: they're able to get him on a one year deal.

616
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: For the record, I think the Dodgers are going to

617
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: go after one year deal relievers, perhaps with an option there,

618
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, a club option, mutual option, and then go

619
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: from there. But I'm in the one year route just

620
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: like you said, I don't see them dipping into the

621
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: mega contract with Edwin Diaz or anything in that matter.

622
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Helsley is the name that is on there that's

623
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: super intriguing. His time with the Mets was very bad.

624
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: He costs himself a lot of money, and I think

625
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: he'd be a perfect candidate for a one year if

626
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: you want to go give him, you know, sixteen through

627
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: eighteen million for a one year. He's had some issues

628
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: with pitch tipping, and I think with the Mets that

629
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: really came to a head and it really blew up.

630
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: His stuff was all looked the same, his metrics were

631
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: all about the same, usage was right on par. They

632
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: didn't change much there. But he was pushed into a setup,

633
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: high leverage role and it really did and work with him.

634
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: As Krai dropped a little bit, walk rate spiked a

635
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: little bit, but his pitch tipping, I think in a

636
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: new environment, you know, getting hit maybe hit a little

637
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: bit kind of all blew up in his face there.

638
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: So he's a one year guy. You get him at

639
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: the back end, let him get in fix the pitch

640
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Speaker 1: tipping issue. There's great videos about that. I think that's

641
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: someone who would be an intriguing piece at the back end.

642
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: But I'm a one year deal guy, and one you

643
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: don't have on there, Clint is someone that I've been

644
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 1: hoping that the Dodgers could get back is Chris Martin.

645
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: He's someone that he is just a journeyman guy for

646
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: a number of years. He has done it. He's thirty

647
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: nine years old. He can just he's just pitch. He's

648
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: a rubber arm type of guy. He's had some injuries,

649
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: but he's someone that you can get on a one year,

650
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: super low money deal. He's just going to go out

651
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: there and pitch. He's been one of the most productive

652
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: relievers for you know, seven eight years. So it's someone

653
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: that I'm always been interested in and I would love

654
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: to bring him back. That's the dart throw man. But

655
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: if they just want to get someone who's a rubber arm,

656
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: but Ryan Helsley's the number one for me as a

657
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: closer spot and on a one year you know, prove

658
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: a deal and then go let him make some more

659
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: money on the free agent market.

660
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the idea of Hellsley. I think for

661
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: all the reasons you listed, that's where it makes the

662
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: most sense, as long as it is that one year

663
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: kind of proved deal, because in my opinion, in my view,

664
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: this is a guy that is literally just replacing Kirby Yates,

665
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: who was not a part of the postseason bullpen, rightfully so.

666
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: But somebody who's replacing what Kirby Yates was supposed to

667
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: do for this team, which was supposed to replace what

668
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: Dan Hudson had din for the team, particularly in twenty

669
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: twenty four. That veteran that gives you some moxie, can

670
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: can get you out of a tough you know, bases loaded,

671
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: no out, Maybe get you out of a basil loaded

672
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: no out situation in the sixth inning, or save a

673
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: game for you in the ninth Somebody that has some

674
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: flexibility that is willing to use it. You know, it's weird.

675
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: I've been for a while very against the idea of

676
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: a Kenley Jansen reunion. He's been prettyf and decent since

677
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: leaving LA last year, had a really, really nice year

678
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: with Anaheim where there's absolutely nothing to play for. Letting

679
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 2: the dude, given the dude an opportunity to come back

680
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: and win another title, be a two time champ himself,

681
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: actually get his parade, doesn't It doesn't offend me the

682
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: way it might have in the past, not so much

683
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: of the parade part, but Kenlee Jansen reunion, because you

684
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: know it would be a one year deal. He's not

685
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: going to be looking for twenty mil anymore. We're looking

686
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: at maybe a a ten twelve million dollar contract, maybe

687
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: even less. Maybe you can get him eight or something

688
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: like that. Because he is coming back home. He understands, like,

689
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 2: I don't know they have money to pay for him.

690
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't really know how that works. It's not my money.

691
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: I don't need to care about the contract logistics of it.

692
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: But you can get him on a one year deal,

693
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: and that's I think the key here is one or

694
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: two one year deal guys, whether it's a Hellsley and

695
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: a Kenley, Pete Fairbanks and Ryan Helsley, something like that.

696
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they play into like some people are

697
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: thinking they might. I don't think they play into the

698
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz or more so the Devin Williams, Robert Suarez market.

699
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: I don't see that in above, but Nightingale's mentioned that

700
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: they could be playing in that market, amongst others. I

701
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: don't see it. I really don't.

702
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: That's why I'm the one year deal stuff. I'm pretty

703
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: confident with that. I think it's if it's a one year,

704
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: like I said, with a mutual or maybe a player

705
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: option something. I don't think they'll go player option. I

706
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: think it'll be one year, big aav Let him go

707
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: get paid in one year, Let Helsley get paid in

708
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: one year, and if it works out great, then he

709
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: gets to parlay that into another contract that he deserved

710
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: if the you know, this hiccup doesn't happen with the

711
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: mets uh and I think that's just the perfect target.

712
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: I think he would be into that. Reset yourself and

713
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: the Dodger would say, you take care, thank you for

714
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: the you know, thank you for this back end dominance

715
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: that we appreciate the hell out of. And hopefully it's that,

716
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, with another World Series title. But I think

717
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: that would be a great move. He's you know, had

718
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: a lot of innings, a lot of mileage, but a

719
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: lot of dominance, and his stuff all looks good. It's

720
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: just the pitch tippings stuff really brew itself up. So,

721
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: like I said, circling Ryan Helsley keeping it there, big

722
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: money av one year deal and if they want to

723
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: go get one more, they can. But I think they're

724
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: set on lefties on a stay away there and then

725
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: the Rioty's like you said, with the Kyle hurt and

726
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: then we haven'ty. We didn't even talk Roki, we didn't

727
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: even talk starting. But it's a matter of they have

728
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: I think enough in the bullpen to make that happen,

729
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: because No Blake tried it anymore. So they're gonna have

730
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: to find Dave Roberts gonna have to find a new

731
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: favorite uh to go with in the bullpen.

732
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: You mean no Blake trying to and just being that

733
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: high leverage guy. Obviously he's bast but yeah he's not

734
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 2: your your number one fire man for sure. So Dave

735
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: needs to find that that guy again. And I'm really

736
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: hoping it ends up being Ben Conspiraus. I love the

737
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: dude in relief. I think he he couldn't really get

738
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: back into a good rhythm after he was told he

739
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: was gonna start, and then never really became a starter.

740
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: It just the season sort of unraveled from their first

741
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: two months. I mean we were big time Benny ca

742
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: You know the true three times when you're talking about

743
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: Benny Capps. Year number three in the big leagues is

744
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: going to be very good for Ben Caspari. The same

745
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: with Rabeleski. I mean with that dude, you've got future

746
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: closure stuff as well out of Robleski. But that sounds

747
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: like a conversation for a different show. We're not talking

748
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: so much about the guys that are here. We're talking

749
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: about the guys they need to go out and get.

750
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: And I do have a final the third big need,

751
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 2: and I'm calling this kind of it's the wild card

752
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: because there are really two big needs. It's a bullpen

753
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 2: arm and an outfielder. That's obvious. But I think there's

754
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: going to be a move no one is expecting. Could

755
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: it be signing it Infielder Alex Brigman is a free

756
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: agent coming off of a nice season with Boston Boba

757
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: Shed has been linked to this this team at different

758
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: points in time, maybe to play second, try to play

759
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: them at third, try to play them at short. And

760
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 2: that is not an indictment on any of the guys

761
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: that are currently on this Dodgers roster. Of course, we

762
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: know Munyataka Murakami is a free agent coming over. I

763
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: don't think the Dodgers are going to be in on

764
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: him personally, or there's always the fan favagorte of every

765
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: off season Nolan Aernato trade platoon with Muncie. I don't

766
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: know that. Could it be an infielder thoughts on that,

767
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: you know, the wild card aspect of a third need for.

768
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: This team, I would say it's a it's a veteran

769
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: starter who can have eat some innings. I'm going to

770
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: say that someone who can go out. It's like the

771
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: James Paxton's greatest thing was that he didn't miss a

772
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: start in his time with the Dodgers, and then when

773
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: they got rid of him, it was that, you know,

774
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: thank you for your service. So I appreciate the hell

775
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: out of it. So I'm gonna say, yeah, yeah, here's

776
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: your ring. I'm going to say, here, it's a starting

777
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: pitcher that could go out and rubber arm can just

778
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: pitch every fifth, sixth day, depending how they do it,

779
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: and just fill them in there as someone who's willing

780
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: to pitch in any role. That's that's the sneaky move

781
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: that I see can never have too much pitching. The

782
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: Dodgers proved that's the case, and it carried them to

783
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: a World Series title with all upper echelon guys. So

784
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay right there. It's going to be a

785
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: veterans starting pitcher. I haven't had a chance to look

786
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: at who I love out of that group, but there

787
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: are enough rubber arm veteran guys that can fill that need.

788
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean this is a little known dude, Trek

789
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: Scooble as well. Tiger's apparently willing to listen, you know,

790
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: for for trade offers out there for Trek Scooble. He

791
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 2: think there's a there's any sort of world just for

792
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 2: the sake of people here who desperately want Trek Scooble

793
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: to be a Dodger. Do you think there's some sort

794
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: of world where Detroit would be dumb enough to trade

795
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: away their superstar.

796
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, any anything is possible, Clint I untouchable stuff

797
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. It's just outside of you know,

798
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: players having a no trade clause. Those things can unless

799
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: the guy just refuses to leave and loves where he's at.

800
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: But Trek Scooble deserves to get paid what he's you

801
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: know what, how he can pitch. He deserves to be

802
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: one of the highest, if not the number one paid

803
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: starting pitcher in Major League Baseball, you know, perhaps ever, yeah,

804
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: the stuff we've never seen before, So he deserves that.

805
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: Can the Tigers gamble just running it back without the

806
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: security blanket that he's under contract for an extended period

807
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: of time. Does he want to pitch that way? You know,

808
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: he might just have to. But can the Tigers walk

809
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: away from this with just a qualifying offer at the

810
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: very back end of his tenure in Detroit? That would sting.

811
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: That would kill And I think that would be if

812
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: there's no chance you can pay him and he's just

813
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: he's out, like he's you can win in these conversations

814
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: if you get there and he just at a certain

815
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: point he goes to you know, the brass and says,

816
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: that's it. I'm done. We're not you know, we have

817
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: nothing more to talk about. I'm gonna pitch the duration

818
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: of my contract and that's my time. Can the Tigers'

819
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: front office do it? Yes, they can just just you know,

820
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: go down with the ship of getting no return. But

821
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: it would be incredibly bad. Business for them not to

822
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: explore the best offer that they can get. So, yes, Clint,

823
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: there is a world that the Los Angeles Dodgers put

824
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: a get put together a massive package, and that's where

825
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: I would be at. So if they do it right,

826
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: it's possible. Man.

827
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: You guys heard it here first. Scott Geerman confirms the

828
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: Dodger are gonna be all the way in on Trek's

829
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: Google this winter. I mean, how could you not? You

830
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: know same? I know people also want Paul Skiings. Skens

831
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: isn't going anywhere. The pirates aren't trading away their meal

832
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: ticket there for that they can use for another couple

833
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: of years. But the fact that, like getting back to

834
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: to your idea, I it wouldn't be shocking to see

835
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: them add a starter that just gives them some innings,

836
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: somebody that's gonna fill what Clayton gave them during this

837
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: run during the regular season, and then be like, all right,

838
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: we don't necessarily really need you or you mentioned James

839
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: Paxson as well, getting that arm. Just give give me,

840
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: give us one hundred innings, eighty innings, one hundred twenty innings.

841
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not opposed to, you know, Yamamoto getting plenty

842
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: of rests in the early parts of the season. Don't

843
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: need to burn them out because the most important time

844
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: this team is making the postseason. They're probably winning the division. Again,

845
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: you need to have everybody ready to go maxed out

846
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: in the month of October. But it's gonna be an

847
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: interesting offseason. Man, it's so weird, like where again, there

848
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: there are there are needs, there are obvious needs, but

849
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: there's no clear path for how to fix this team.

850
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: It's been a while. It's been a while where there

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Speaker 2: hasn't been a very clear and obvious path. This is

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Speaker 2: the definite way you go. You get one of these

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Speaker 2: guys here, you go out and you know, resigned taoscar

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Speaker 2: and Land another starter or whatever it is. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: forward to it, man, I know you're looking forward to

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Speaker 2: talking a whole lot about it. Guys, make sure you

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Speaker 2: go follow this guy on the social media machines. It's

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Speaker 2: at Scott Gearman on the Twitter. He's hosting Dodger Heads

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Speaker 2: Unplugged on Dodger Blue YouTube channel a couple times a week.

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Speaker 2: Congrats to you boys over there, one hundred thousand subscribers.

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Speaker 2: That is a really really cool, a lot of hard

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Speaker 2: work medication doing it the right way over there on

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Speaker 2: Dodger Blue. So I appreciate you, guys. That's about it today. Guys,

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Speaker 2: we appreciate you hanging out with us. Let us know

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Speaker 2: your thoughts down in the comments. If you're watching this

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Speaker 2: after it was live, who do you want to see

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers land Can they kind of stand pat without

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Speaker 2: going crazy? I'm interested in knowing how people feel about

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Speaker 2: the current forty man roster for this team. One more

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Speaker 2: mention of support us like share subscribe to show, trying

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Speaker 2: to get to fifteen thousand subscribers, and also support the

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Speaker 2: show by buying some stuff if you have for it, hoodies,

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Speaker 2: drink wear, beanies, shirts, all that kind of stuff. Dodgers

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Speaker 2: Territory shot dot com. All right, that's enough plugging the

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Speaker 2: merchant's enough plugging the stuff. We'll see you on the

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Speaker 2: next one. I'll be back on Thursday, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of will be back next week. So everybody have fun

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Speaker 2: with that. Okay, see that by