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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. I'm your host with

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions

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Speaker 1: of success. For you and may be the size of

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Speaker 1: your paycheck mineus inspired people to develop a plan to

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Speaker 1: reach their dreams. It's time to stop reading other people's

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Speaker 1: success stores and start writing your own. You can only

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Speaker 1: exceed the expectations by believing in yourself. People always talk

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Speaker 1: about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift,

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Speaker 1: lead with your gifts and know that your friends, family,

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Speaker 1: or coworkers. Stop people planning or living your dreams. My

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Speaker 1: guest on the show is Tavanna Evans. She's the forty

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Speaker 1: seven Uh you know New York and New York. Uh mom, mom, Panura.

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Speaker 1: Let me get that at MAMPA Now. She didn't just

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Speaker 1: put a new word out there, and I can't even

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Speaker 1: say it. She has been called the Queen of Crypto

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Speaker 1: due to being an established cryptal experts and the founder

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Speaker 1: of the decentralized cryptocurrency known as rob Corn. She was

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Speaker 1: featured on Glamor Magazines in May of twenty eighteen, Women

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Speaker 1: in Crypto c and then Bloomberg Complex, tv C, NBC

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Speaker 1: Recount mclaire and liveaty anything that has to do with

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Speaker 1: talking about this new money that we as African America,

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Speaker 1: we as people of color, need to be aware of it.

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Speaker 1: I got on the shoulder today to eat. Continue to

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Speaker 1: educate me on it. Please work with the Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation Master class Tavannah Evans. Well, two things. When I

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Speaker 1: bring an expert like you, Tavanna, because I'm gonna tell you,

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Speaker 1: I I am a credit card person, I am a

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Speaker 1: cash person. I am a guy who uh knows the

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Speaker 1: banking systems that I've been raised on. And so now

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Speaker 1: you're introducing a digital currency platform that some people and

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Speaker 1: even myself when it came out, I said, oh, this

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Speaker 1: is a a scam. And how you because I couldn't. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't hold my money. I couldn't hold a credit card,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't hold five dollars, ten dollars or coins. What

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Speaker 1: has been is that the is that the world that

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Speaker 1: you hear a lot from a person like me or

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Speaker 1: people like me when it comes to cryptocurrency. Absolutely, But

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Speaker 1: I love the way you started out by saying new money,

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Speaker 1: because most of us in our community don't realize that

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Speaker 1: this is actually money, right, Um, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people think that crypto is either a stock or just

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Speaker 1: simply an investment instrument or you know, uh, like you said,

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Speaker 1: a scam um. But what they failed to realize is

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Speaker 1: that it's been around for well aware a decade now

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Speaker 1: and the rest of the world is using this every day,

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Speaker 1: and we're behind as Americans, and then we're even further

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Speaker 1: behind as black Americans. Well here's my whole thought to

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Speaker 1: try to simplify the world. When people say, well, well,

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Speaker 1: cryptrough courage. I don't live like that because, like I

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Speaker 1: go to this uh kind of like fast food restaurant

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Speaker 1: card to do businesses in there. So I'm already in

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Speaker 1: the digital currency world. The crypto is living in Okay.

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Speaker 1: And then when you have a credit card, you have

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Speaker 1: So you're already in that digital currency world because you're

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Speaker 1: spending money technically that you are being granted based on

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Speaker 1: your credit reach and so. Right, but there's a huge difference. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: I understanding. I'm just trying to trying to wrap my

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Speaker 1: they're kind of dealing in this digital space already right there,

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Speaker 1: and then I broke. You want to show the varner

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Speaker 1: can kind of transition us to this new space, this

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Speaker 1: new money space that's happening that we need to be

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Speaker 1: a part of. So that's I wanted to I was

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Speaker 1: gonna stop right there, so then you can take us

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Speaker 1: explain ra sean good good example, but the wrong example. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's a great example, don't get me wrong. But there's

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Speaker 1: a huge difference, and it's that actual difference that we

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Speaker 1: kind of fall behind on. When you're talking about credit,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a centralized system that's not really your money. Right,

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Speaker 1: So you talked about you mentioned limits, you mentioned UM.

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Speaker 1: You know we crevate limits, and you know even when

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to cryptocurrency, you are the bank.

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Speaker 1: So this is your money. There are no limits to

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Speaker 1: that's the huge difference between UM crypto, the crypto digital currency,

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Speaker 1: like I said, the Staples Center was just named crypto

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Speaker 1: through cryptocurrency. Now, how did you get involved in crypto because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, we met several years ago while I

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Speaker 1: transition because that was more just techie techie. Now this

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Speaker 1: is fintech. Well, in I founded a company called Safe

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Speaker 1: And it was during that time when I came into

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Speaker 1: the knowledge that black people don't get funded by vcs. Right, um,

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Speaker 1: not only black people, but black women. Black women get

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Speaker 1: have government intervention. That was like a light went off

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Speaker 1: with more money Making Come Sations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now,

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Speaker 1: And if we hear the word fair, we hear the

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Speaker 1: word education, and hear the word uh lasting line. You know,

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Speaker 1: in what we offer. The black tech community has is

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Speaker 1: and close the wealth gap. Well, you know, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: So we talk a lot about their not being crypto education,

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Speaker 1: because that's what crypto does. Crypto gives us the ability

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Speaker 1: always ask where does it come from? Where does the

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Speaker 1: from your social value, right and when you do that,

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Speaker 1: you know you win. I'm talking to Vada uh Evans.

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Speaker 1: She is the She's called the Queen of Crypto, which

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Speaker 1: It's very important. She reminded me with Sean we've met before,

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Speaker 1: And when I bring individuals on this show and they

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Speaker 1: your research. Just so just as I'm bringing somebody on there,

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Speaker 1: no there's risk when you get on the airplane, there's

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Speaker 1: risk when you drive your car. But this is direct

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Speaker 1: risk because it involves your money. How can they reach

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Speaker 1: out to you? How could they or do you have courses?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a online of setups where people can

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Speaker 1: take monthly page subscriptions to be educated because mabl big

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Speaker 1: walk away from this interview is that they need to

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Speaker 1: find you educate themselves based on your legacy that you

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Speaker 1: put out there and your reputation. Yeah. Absolutely, Well it's

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Speaker 1: two ways. I am a master class teacher on a

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Speaker 1: platform called Class Rebel as Class Rebel dot com um

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Speaker 1: and we have free introductory crypto classes that lead into

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Speaker 1: a longer, more intensive couple of day crypto classes. So

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Speaker 1: if you follow me on social media um, whether it's

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Speaker 1: LinkedIn Tovanta Evans or or Twitter, Tovannah Evans or even Blockpoint,

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Speaker 1: you see your way to get into our pre crypto

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Speaker 1: one million Wallets dot com and one million Wallace is

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Speaker 1: our is our effort to go out anywhere someone asks

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Speaker 1: us to show up and instruct the people on crypto.

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Speaker 1: So whether it's your church or whether it's your organization,

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Speaker 1: or if you could get together twenty to fifty people,

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Speaker 1: we will show up. I will show up personally and

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Speaker 1: educate you on cryptocurrency UM. So that's one of our

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Speaker 1: other initiatives as well. One million it's one million wallets

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Speaker 1: fossile to one million wallet. But that's our big initiative

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Speaker 1: we want to go. You know, I decided like six

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Speaker 1: I want to be right there on the streets educating

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Speaker 1: people about this, you know. And you know that's where

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Speaker 1: we came up with one million wallets, because we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a million people to get a wallet. It's free.

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Speaker 1: Just get a wallet, you know. And in the process

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Speaker 1: to grow to a point where we can help you

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Speaker 1: and we can teach you all you need to know

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Speaker 1: about crypto and answer all of your questions. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited, UM. I want you to do me a favor.

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Speaker 1: I have a newsletter that goes out every Wednesday at

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Speaker 1: so that means that they don't discard my newsletter when

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Speaker 1: it comes across their desk. The industry standard, I think

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Speaker 1: those free classes. If you have a banner that you

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Speaker 1: can email to me so we can put that in

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Speaker 1: a newsletter. And I love that one million wallets. I

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Speaker 1: like to I like, I like to become an advocate,

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Speaker 1: to to to educate myself and educate my base. But

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Speaker 1: the free uh, the free crypto classes, I think you

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Speaker 1: can really get the man. And I like to put

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Speaker 1: a dropping in my newsletter if you don't mind, Thank

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Speaker 1: you awesome yea. So so get with the Marissa or

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Speaker 1: who hawns all the bookings on this show for this

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Speaker 1: particular segment. And I really am sincerely telling you, Tavana Evans.

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Speaker 1: I may not have remembered you from two thousand nine,

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Speaker 1: but I remember you in two I want your help.

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Speaker 1: I want to use your talents. I want to use

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Speaker 1: your abilities to help turn that curve. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: just sign up for a whilet it's free. I need

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Speaker 1: to put my name on the wallet. You know Telfond

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Speaker 1: who was my producer and this for this show every week,

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Speaker 1: he needs to put his name on a wallet. So

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Speaker 1: we can start at least creeping into that world and

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Speaker 1: develop some level of comfort that we can be a participant.

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Speaker 1: And it's not a scam. It's not something that you

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Speaker 1: that you should avoid. You should avoid it, you should

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Speaker 1: run to it, run to it with a with proper

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Speaker 1: family guidance. So I took away from you family and visionary,

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Speaker 1: and I consider your visionary. But Tavana, most importantly, thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming on Money Making Conversations master Class. Thank

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Speaker 1: you You've been wonderful. And again this is a show

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Speaker 1: about cryptocurrency. Bitcorn, we didn't talk about n f t s,

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Speaker 1: but she can help you out there. But we're gonna

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Speaker 1: put our banner, her banner in our in our newsletter

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Speaker 1: on a weekly basis, so it offers free classes that

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Speaker 1: could educate you by cryptocurrency. So don't stop, don't stop

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Speaker 1: yourself from being a part of the economic games that

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Speaker 1: are being made out there, especially in the digital currency world.

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Speaker 1: The murder verse is real, y'all. And she said metavers

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