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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre Me Jason McIntyre

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Speaker 1: Straight Fire for Thursday, January one. Hope everyone had a

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Speaker 1: great Inauguration Day. I'm sure you guys were glued to

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Speaker 1: the TV and social media. I did my best to

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Speaker 1: stay off of social media on Wednesday. I knew it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be a poop show, so I just avoided it.

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Speaker 1: I did a bunch of reading last night about Inauguration Day,

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Speaker 1: watching videos. Big day for the country, and let's get

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Speaker 1: back to sports now. Obviously, the big sports story is

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Speaker 1: the Big Three in Brooklyn go down to Colins, Sexton

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Speaker 1: and the Calves. We will get to that shortly. I

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Speaker 1: do want to let you guys know we have a

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Speaker 1: great interview coming up. I would say the most popular

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Speaker 1: question I get from friends are wit A say, you're

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Speaker 1: a part owner of an Australian basketball team. Yes, I am,

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Speaker 1: and people see it in my bio for Instagram and Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and I get asked about it a lot. I decided

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Speaker 1: to bring on the majority owner of the team, Matt Wall.

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Speaker 1: She played college hoops at Florida UM just before the

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Speaker 1: Horford Noah teams went to the Final four back to

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Speaker 1: back years. He was with the Gators, and um, he

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Speaker 1: had an interesting international career, had a cup of coffee

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Speaker 1: in the NBA and uh we talked to him from

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Speaker 1: New Zealand. I think you guys will love the interview.

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Speaker 1: It is uh interesting stuff. He's a very smart, fascinating individual.

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Speaker 1: But first we'll start with the Big three in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: going down to Yes, Colin Sexton, a k A young bull.

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Speaker 1: He had forty two points. At one stretch he had

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Speaker 1: gonna be the stopper when they have to face Colin Sexton?

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Speaker 1: And it's like, Kyrie kid, he's not a lockdown guy.

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Speaker 1: James Harden is capable in the post because he's kind

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Speaker 1: of burly and barrel chested, but Colin Sexton was just

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Speaker 1: torching him from deep. And then you look at the

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Speaker 1: box score and you're like, wait a minute. Everybody on

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Speaker 1: the calves is torching the nets. I mean everybody got

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Speaker 1: a turn. They were twenty for forty on three pointers.

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Speaker 1: And I know the narrative today is gonna be, well like, look,

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Speaker 1: they don't any defense. I lost in overtime by it

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Speaker 1: gave up at seven to a non playoff team in

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Speaker 1: the Calves. Like, just take a deep breath, step away.

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Speaker 1: Let's examine the first game together for Durant, Harden and Kyrie. Well,

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Speaker 1: there is a little history of Big three struggling in

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Speaker 1: their first game. Why don't we take a look back

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Speaker 1: to Lebron's Big Three when they started out in Miami

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Speaker 1: And wouldn't you know it? They lost their first game

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Speaker 1: eight eighty points for the Big Three. It was one

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Speaker 1: of those games where they're overpassing, they want to overshare,

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Speaker 1: so nobody looks like they're the ballhog. They had fifteen

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Speaker 1: turnovers Bosh Wade and Lebron in a loss, and wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you know it, Kyrie, Kevin Durant Harden looked a little

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Speaker 1: you know, clunky there in the first game, like shocker

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Speaker 1: as the head coach and Steve nash Um at one point, okay,

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Speaker 1: Calves offensively had eleven of thirteen shots made and they

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Speaker 1: were uncontested. A k A. Ain't nobody playing defense? Uh?

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Speaker 1: For the Brooklyn Nets. Now you know, we know Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant is a good defender. Um, he's a good defender. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when he's got Clay Thompson and Draymond Green with him. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Duran had a great game, thirty eight twelve, eight assists,

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Speaker 1: four blocks. He was he was good. Kyrie, you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty eight shots, thirty seven points. Your point guard has

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Speaker 1: looked like a guy who was taking a back seat

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna step out any tones here. James Harden

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Speaker 1: played fifty one minutes more than Kyrie, more than Durant,

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Speaker 1: and took fourteen shots. Kyrie irving to double the amount

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Speaker 1: at the box score and be like, okay, we'll figure

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Speaker 1: this out. He had and ten boards tripped dub for

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Speaker 1: James Harden. Thank you for our fantasy team. Um, but again,

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Speaker 1: the lack of bench depth is going to be a

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Speaker 1: and it's one game. I'm not overreacting, but like the

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Speaker 1: Obviously the Nets are going to figure it out. I'm

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Speaker 1: not overreacting. I know Rob G is over there cackling

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Speaker 1: I got some very kind notes from people who uh

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Speaker 1: any rate, Rob G, I am curious as to how

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Speaker 1: much laughter you had as Jared Allen in a revenge

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Speaker 1: game twelve points, I love and boards, four blocks, and

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Speaker 1: uh the Calves beat the Nets. I did not have

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Speaker 1: I did pick the Nets to the NBA Finals and

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Speaker 1: So that gives you a glimpse into what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see that more often. The bigger story though,

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Speaker 1: you know that song by the Beastie Boys, No Sleep

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Speaker 1: much jelling they can do to become good defensively. All

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Speaker 1: I mean, probably only interesting to me, Rob g but um,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving had three assists in forty eight minutes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the kid TLC coming off the bench had three assists

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Speaker 1: said some you know, nice things about him on Wednesday's podcast.

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Speaker 1: But this guy, he's just looking for to get buckets

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Speaker 1: for himself. It's all I sell and listen. Some of

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Speaker 1: the highlights are crazy. Uh you know, I put one

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Speaker 1: this guy's ridiculous. I know it came against Sedi Ootsman

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Speaker 1: I just want to quickly say, I know the nets

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Speaker 1: are the biggest story, rob g. I get that the

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that shortly. Can I say something about

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Speaker 1: Luca don Chet. The Maths have kind of labored through

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, right there, seven and seven

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Speaker 1: all about the playoffs. Luca don Chet had thirteen twelve

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Speaker 1: of those? So what, Rob G. Luca don Chech before

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Speaker 1: turning twenty two years old has thirty triple doubles. Okay, Magic, Lebron,

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Speaker 1: nine triple doubles. I don't I almost feel like we're

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Speaker 1: twenty two? And what's the triple double? Jason? Who cares?

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Speaker 1: Russoll Westbrook got a million of them? Wels Westbrook's a veteran, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Luca's not even twenty two. I'm I'm blown away by

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Speaker 1: and he said, Lebron, Janice Luca are the clear upper

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Speaker 1: tier and then from there there's like a gap. I'm like, wait,

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Speaker 1: like Luca over k d over Kauai overall, And then

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Speaker 1: I looked it up on my own, like they didn't

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well, Jason, Thanks for having me on. I'm excited. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: two months of lockdown. We went into a strict lockdown

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Speaker 1: right when it happened, and we've had a couple of

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Speaker 1: hiccups along the way. But um, we're living a totally

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Speaker 1: normal life. I can go to a concert, I can

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Speaker 1: go to a sporting event, I can go beers with

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Speaker 1: my buddies. I can do anything here. So we've been

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Speaker 1: very four. Um. Obviously it's a lot different than the

427
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Speaker 1: United States. We've got five million people and we're an

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Speaker 1: island nation, so I'm here in New Zealand. Um, it's

429
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Speaker 1: been amazing. I feel very fortunate. Um, yeah, it's it's

430
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Speaker 1: been pretty good, to be honest. So nobody wears masks

431
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Speaker 1: in New Zealand. No. The only places you have to

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Speaker 1: wear masks are if you get on a plane and

433
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Speaker 1: if you get on public transportation. So if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: take the bus into town, you wear a mask. Um,

435
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: but nobody's wearing a mask. We have a COVID tracer

436
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: app where everywhere you go, you basically just tap in

437
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Speaker 1: if you want. It's not mandatory, but most people do

438
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Speaker 1: it because they want to be part of the solution here.

439
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: But no masks. It's life is totally normal at kid,

440
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: you not. You could go to a packed out Spark

441
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Speaker 1: arena where we play our games with twelve thousand people

442
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: and watch a concert six sixty. Uh, there's nothing you

443
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Speaker 1: can't do. Go to a game all Blacks game in

444
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Speaker 1: Eden Park with forty people. There's there's zero restrictions on

445
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Speaker 1: our life here. My goodness, I'm sure there's a you know,

446
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people listening, very jealous. Um. Now, now

447
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: let's get before we get to your background and uh

448
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: Florida Gators and uh trying to make it into the NBA.

449
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: I want to go back to how on earth you

450
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: hatch this idea to become a owner of a basketball team,

451
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: uh in New Zealand, because that sounds very foreign but

452
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: also very cool to every sports fan I know. Yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: I can tell you he was never part of the plan.

454
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Speaker 1: People ask me. It's the first question I get to here,

455
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: They're like, why are you here in New Zealand an

456
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Speaker 1: American guy from Philly buying a basketball team? Um, And

457
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: I tell them it's either really good luck or really

458
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 1: bad luck, depending depending on how we're going. But um,

459
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: I retired from playing in and I was very fortunate

460
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Speaker 1: that a very close friend and mentor of mine, Jason

461
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Speaker 1: Levy and who former owner of the Philaeppi seventy sixers

462
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Speaker 1: in Memphis Grizzlies. Now he's the managing owner of d

463
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Speaker 1: C United and Swansea City. He was running DC United

464
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Speaker 1: at the time in Swansea City, and he gave me

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to invest in both of those deals, and

466
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Speaker 1: more importantly for me, he gave me the opportunity to

467
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Speaker 1: basically shadow him and see what he was doing in

468
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Speaker 1: the sports executive ownership kind of space. And I could

469
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Speaker 1: tell right away it was somewhere where I'd really enjoy doing.

470
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Speaker 1: And you know, as a as an athlete who's finishing

471
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Speaker 1: their career, you're kind of I was in a great

472
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Speaker 1: place financially, so I didn't have to work, but you're

473
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Speaker 1: kind of figuring it out. And I was in a

474
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Speaker 1: little bit in limbo, didn't know what I was going

475
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Speaker 1: to do with the rest of my life. And then

476
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Speaker 1: at the end of UM a mutual friend of mine

477
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: and the former owners the Blackwells, Jonathan Givoni, who works

478
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: for ESPN and started Draft Express. He called me and said, Matt, Um,

479
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Speaker 1: there's this bastketball team in New Zealand called the Breakers. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're part of the NBL. The league is exploding, they've

481
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Speaker 1: got a connection to the NBA. I think it's something

482
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Speaker 1: you should take a look at. And my first thought was, well,

483
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Speaker 1: you know, I haven't been out of the United States

484
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Speaker 1: since I retired, so why don't I take a trip

485
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Speaker 1: to New Zealand and uh, you know, take it off

486
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Speaker 1: the bucket list. So we did our due diligence and

487
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Speaker 1: I came here and I was blown away by the country,

488
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Speaker 1: the people. Everything you read about New Zealand, it's a

489
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Speaker 1: percent true. The best people in the world, the most

490
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Speaker 1: beautiful place on earth. But more than that, I went

491
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Speaker 1: to a game and I was shocked at the level

492
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Speaker 1: of basketball and the product. And we're playing this game

493
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Speaker 1: in Spark Arena, which holds about nine thousand for basketball

494
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: UM games, and it didn't have a great crowd, but

495
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: the product was amazing and I saw this huge opportunity that, um,

496
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Speaker 1: with the ability to connect with the NBA, you don't

497
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Speaker 1: have that anywhere else in the world. It's an English

498
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Speaker 1: speaking league. Um. If you if you think about basketball

499
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: teams outside of the NBA, unlike every other sport, you know,

500
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Speaker 1: if you think of soccer, you know all this, all

501
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Speaker 1: the teams in the Premier League, you know, the second

502
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Speaker 1: tier teams. There's no basketball team in the world that

503
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Speaker 1: was really recognizable outside of the NBA. And with the

504
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: pace that the basketball is growing globally, I just saw

505
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: that as a huge opportunity to essentially play NBA preseason games,

506
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Speaker 1: get guys like r J. Hampton and become almost like

507
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Speaker 1: the thirty first NBA team and this amazing market, and

508
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: that was kind of our vision from day one. UM.

509
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Speaker 1: And I think it's been a lot of fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, certainly, I'm just happy to be along for

511
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Speaker 1: the ride. I will say, wearing the Breakers gear out

512
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Speaker 1: here in California, I've had some people be like, oh,

513
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Speaker 1: that looks cool. What's the Breakers? And I tell them

514
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Speaker 1: and as soon as I say r J. Hampton, They're like, oh,

515
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Speaker 1: the high school kid. Um. And you know, I listen,

516
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Speaker 1: I'm not gassing you up here giving you major credit,

517
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: but not only did you see the opportunity over there

518
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Speaker 1: in an English speaking country for basketball, but the idea

519
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Speaker 1: of R. J. Hampton plucking a high school kid to

520
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Speaker 1: kind of be a trend setter. I mean, Matt, you know,

521
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Speaker 1: in some ways you could say the G League has

522
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Speaker 1: made major changes in the NBA because of what you

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Speaker 1: did with R. J. Hampton. Would you agree with that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think that there was probably a

525
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Speaker 1: number of things. Adam Silver is a really smart guy, right,

526
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Speaker 1: and he came out with a quote. He came out

527
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Speaker 1: of the quote about a year and a half ago

528
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Speaker 1: and he said something like, I'm jealous of what the

529
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Speaker 1: NBL is doing. If I had a son, I would

530
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Speaker 1: I would say I would consider sending him there. It's

531
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Speaker 1: a great development. And when you have Adam Silver, somebody

532
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Speaker 1: who I respect greatly say that it's pretty cool. And

533
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Speaker 1: like I said, part of our growth strateg as you

534
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Speaker 1: here was you've got this amazing market. New Zealand is

535
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Speaker 1: known as like a cool spot to anyone you talked

536
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Speaker 1: to around the world, where the New Zealand breakers, We're

537
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Speaker 1: not the Auto breakers. So I saw that as a

538
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Speaker 1: huge opportunity to grow our brand, and part of that

539
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: was getting those next stars so that we could grow

540
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Speaker 1: in the United States and using our connections in media

541
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Speaker 1: and becoming a cool brand outside of that. So yeah,

542
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean what what the G League has done. Um,

543
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: obviously it puts a dent in what we're trying to

544
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Speaker 1: do here, but I don't think it's gonna limit us

545
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Speaker 1: in terms of getting next stars. I mean we've got

546
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Speaker 1: to this year Josh Kiddy, who's going to be who's

547
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Speaker 1: in Australian, who's going to be a top ten pick

548
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: in the draft next year and he's playing Fradelaide and

549
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: then Wabi King will be in the first round pick. Um.

550
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Speaker 1: It made it a little bit difficult with us with

551
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Speaker 1: COVID this year, to be honest with you, because we're

552
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Speaker 1: displaying our teams in Australia for at least the first

553
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: three months of the season because there's no bubble between

554
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Speaker 1: Australia and New Zealand for travel. So it's very hard

555
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Speaker 1: for me. When I was recruiting r J. Hampton, I

556
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: could very comfortably tell his parents, you're gonna come to Paradise,

557
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Speaker 1: You're gonna live here for six months, you're gonna get

558
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: the best basketball development, You're gonna live in a safe place,

559
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get get a life experience that is

560
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: gonna really pay dividends down the line for r J

561
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Speaker 1: and for the rest of your family. This year, I

562
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Speaker 1: couldn't tell that to an eighteen year old kids family

563
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Speaker 1: because I didn't know where they were going to be.

564
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Speaker 1: And I take pretty seriously. Um, you know, I first

565
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: went overseas when I was twenty one and it was

566
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: a scary experience. So for me to tell an eighteen

567
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Speaker 1: year old kid in his family, hey, come move here,

568
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Speaker 1: trust us with your kid for six months and not

569
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Speaker 1: know where they were going to be, it wasn't something

570
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: I was comfortable doing. So we took a year off

571
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Speaker 1: from the Next Stars program this year. But as soon

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Speaker 1: as the world gets a little bit more back to

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Speaker 1: normal next year, um, you know what, we'll have somebody

574
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Speaker 1: else wearing the Breakers uniform. Yeah. How much did your

575
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: background playing international basketball? Um? I lost track of how

576
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: many countries you actually played in. Uh, but how much

577
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Speaker 1: did that get you ready to say? Cool, I'm gonna

578
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Speaker 1: move to New Zealand and UH run a basketball team.

579
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Speaker 1: It was easy. For nine years, every August, I would

580
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Speaker 1: pack up all my stuff, six or seven bag, and

581
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: I'd moved for ten months, you know, you'd move overseas

582
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Speaker 1: and and that was it. So for me, it was

583
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Speaker 1: it was it was normal. It wasn't it wasn't really

584
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Speaker 1: a big decision. Now for my family, it was a

585
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: little bit more of a conversation because you know, I

586
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: played overseas for nine years. I finally got settled back

587
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: in the Philadelphia area around my parents. My kids are happy, UM.

588
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: But to their credit, I think they were sold on

589
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: the fact that I believed in this opportunity so much

590
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: UM and they bought in. And the really exciting you know,

591
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Speaker 1: you spoke about what Adam Silver has made in the

592
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Speaker 1: G League changes, But the exciting thing for me is

593
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: more so that since we bought the team, now four

594
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: of the ten teams are owned by American ownership groups.

595
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: So I was the first, you know, we're the first

596
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: American group to ever um, to ever own a team,

597
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: and now and now four of them are. And you've

598
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: got Brian Colangelo investing, and you've got all these NBA

599
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: guys investing. Jason Levy and owns a team who's owned

600
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: two NBA teams, So it's pretty exciting. Um, what we've

601
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: been able to do and what in the direction that

602
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 1: the league has grown. Certainly, I want to back up

603
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: to your playing career. So you went international? Can I

604
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: call the NBA move a cup of coffee? I mean,

605
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: I know you played in the Summer League and uh,

606
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: you were with the Miami Heat for a minute. How

607
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: would you describe it? I mean that's every kid's dream, right,

608
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: You're growing up in Philly, a basketball hotbed, and your

609
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: this high school star heavily recruited. Um, and let's I'm

610
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: going backwards Benjamin Button style, but let's just go to

611
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: your right. But before you win international? Um, I heard

612
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: you tell Ryan Rosello some funny Shack stories. Um, but like,

613
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: how close were you to the NBA? I think quite

614
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: possibly a cup of coffee is even an exaggeration of

615
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: how long I stayed in the NBA. I joke with

616
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: their office here every now and then I'll be like,

617
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Speaker 1: I'm the only player and this is true, the only

618
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: player in NBA history that's one for one from the

619
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: field and over two from the fell and so percent

620
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: free throw percentage and a percent field goal percentage and

621
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Speaker 1: I scored the first time I touched the ball, so

622
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is gonna be easy. Um.

623
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Speaker 1: But look, there are so many really good players globally

624
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: who played basketball and I was very, very close, and

625
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: I think I was one of the guys that if um.

626
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Speaker 1: So I played on the two five sixteen that won

627
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: the championship with however many Hall of famers they had

628
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 1: on the team, and that was a team that if

629
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: you're an end of the roster guy, UM, and somebody

630
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: gets gets injured or something, the team needs to pick

631
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: up someone to try and win a championship. You know this.

632
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: This wasn't a team that was just going to develop

633
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: me for that whole year. UM. And I'm so grateful

634
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: for the opportunity to Miami he gave me. But the

635
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: next year with the Mets, I probably even had a

636
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: better opportunity. In preseason, I was, you know, one of

637
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: the first guys off the bench. I had this great opportunity,

638
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: but they had a full roster, and I think for

639
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: me it was more of just I didn't the circumstances

640
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: didn't work those first two years, and it's really hard

641
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: to get in the NBA if you're not a first

642
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: round pick, and um, I think there's a lot of

643
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: guys like that, especially now that global like the global

644
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: basketball community is a lot tighter and you can you guys,

645
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: but there's just a lot of really good players. And

646
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: I think some of it is circumstance and I didn't

647
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: quite make it, But I think I was an NBA

648
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: level player. I think some of the stuff I did

649
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: overseas um showed that. Um, but I just wasn't quite

650
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: good enough. To be honest, You if you're that good,

651
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: if you're good enough to really stand out, then you

652
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: stick in the NBA for ten years. And I was

653
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: one of those borderline guys that I could have worked

654
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: out if circumstances were perfect, and they weren't for me,

655
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: And you know, I just got a short opportunity. But

656
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: at the same time, like tiding is is everything. I mean,

657
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: I kind of got lucky with my website unloading it

658
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: before social media really popped. I mean, blogs are kind

659
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: of dead now. I just would you characterize yourself as

660
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: a three and D guy, No chance. If I was

661
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: a three D guy, would have definitely played for ten years.

662
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, like that was my problem. You can't score

663
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: on defense was my motto. So you know, I was

664
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: more of a of a guy who really I was

665
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: a great passer and a very good shooter. UM. And

666
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: that's why in Europe, you know, six six, I could

667
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, do everything in Europe, I just wasn't quite

668
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: a good enough athlete. And to be honest now, looking

669
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: at what how guys take care of their bodies and athletically. Uh,

670
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I worked really hard when I

671
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: was a player, and I did on the basketball court.

672
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: Like for me, I got every ounce of it I

673
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: could for my body and for my ability. But you

674
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: just have to work so hard. And I needed to

675
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: take care of my body better, and I needed to

676
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: party less, and I needed to be a little bit

677
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: more focused if I was going to stick in the NBA.

678
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: And that's just the reality. Looking back now, I'm very comfortable,

679
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, I've gotten over the pain of it. I'm

680
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: very comfortable to say look back and honestly say, yeah,

681
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: I I needed to do more to play in the NBA. Um. Yeah, well, defensively,

682
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: nobody plays defense in the NBA now at all. I mean,

683
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: every game is a hundred thirty you know, It's just

684
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: it's crazy. But uh, you know you you said you

685
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: were six sixth great passer like the Surrey. You were

686
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: basically what Draymond Greenish without the defense, which is that

687
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: what could you call yourself that? Because you were a

688
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: high i Q guy. Yeah, I was a high i

689
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: Q guy. I think I was a lot like Draymond

690
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: in terms of I would do whatever it took to win.

691
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: I sacrificed my body a lot um. But yeah, Draymond

692
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: is just such a winner and he um, you know

693
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: he's But yeah, I think it's I think it's a

694
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: pretty good comparison. I was a great passer, and in Europe,

695
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: I was a great rebounder, Like I had averaged seven

696
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: to ten rebounds from the two or three position every year. Um,

697
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: I did a lot of really good things, but I

698
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: just wasn't quite If I was a little bit better athlete,

699
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: I would have stuck in the gate easy, just because

700
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: I was a good skill wise. But I just didn't.

701
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: I just didn't put to work in on my body

702
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: to to stick um, like I should have to be honest,

703
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: I was looking at the list, Matt of guys you

704
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: played with at Florida. I mean I was a nerdy

705
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: guy in college In terms of I was in a

706
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: fantasy college basketball league, and obviously you were drafted high,

707
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: especially after you know, your freshman year you had to

708
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: twenty point games right out of the gate. But you

709
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: played with guys like Anthony Robertson, Uh Lee Humphrey, Corey Brewer,

710
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: Al Horford Noah like you were on some damn good

711
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: Florida teams. What do you remember about those days? I

712
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: mean I played with Joko no alhor for Corey, Corey

713
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: Brewer touring Green, David Lee forgot him, Matt Father, I

714
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: mean everyone on our team as an NBA player, I mean,

715
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: it's insane and we're we've grossly underachieved. Um, while I

716
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: while I was in school, we just we we missed

717
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: out on some opportunities to take a long run. But

718
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: playing at Florida was one of the great privileges of

719
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: my life. Playing for Billy Donovan, Anthony Grant, Larry Shy,

720
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: all these guys. Um literally it was um. It was

721
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: the best experience. You know. When I told R. J.

722
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Hampton to come here, I said to him and his family,

723
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: I said, look, I'm gonna be quite honest with you.

724
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: I had the most amazing college experience. You could ever

725
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: ask if I could do it again and go and

726
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: make millions of dollars, I would still go to the

727
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: University of Florida. So I told them, if you were

728
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: picking between us in college, you're never gonna hear me

729
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: try and argue why you should come here. If you're

730
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a pro, There's no better place on earth

731
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: free to come than the New Zealand Breakers, because we're

732
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: going to develop you the best and all the other reasons.

733
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: So love Florida. Last year getting to play the Breakers

734
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: versus uh okay see Thunder with Billy coaching an NBA

735
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: preseason with the thrill of a lifetime for me. Um.

736
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: I Yeah, there's not a negative word I could say

737
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: about Florida. The entire institution and the entire experience was

738
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: world class. And um you know, I wish I could

739
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: do it again. Yeah. I took a trip down to

740
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: Florida with my dad. We drove down there to check

741
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: it out because I got accepted to the University of Florida,

742
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: and we went on the tour in the summer. My

743
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: dad's probably listening to this and Matt, I kid you

744
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: not the level of talent around that campus. I mean

745
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: our host who was walking us around. My dad was

746
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: just like fumbling his words, like, oh my god, you know,

747
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean the women were ridiculous and you're a basketball star.

748
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: Now you did have like the look, right, the bushy

749
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: hair and the headband. Where did that come from? What's

750
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: like the origin of that? So when I was in

751
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: high school, first of all, right, I went, I went

752
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: on a visit to Florida, and right before I left,

753
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: Jay Wright got the job at Villa Nova, and he

754
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: came right from the press conference to my high school

755
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: and said, Matt, don't commit anywhere. Give me a chance

756
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: to recruit you. And I went on to Florida trip

757
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: that weekend. I committed because I was just looking around like, okay,

758
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: this is where I need to be. Um. So I

759
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: was fortunate in high school, I was a Nike athlete guys,

760
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: so they sent me all the new stuff and in

761
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: one of the packages they sent me a headband, and

762
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: I was like, okay. So I wore the headband in

763
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: a game and I scored thirty nine points and I

764
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: was like, and I'm very superstitious guy. So from then

765
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: on and were the headband and then I got to

766
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: school and I forgot it was I think me and

767
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: the other freshman started growing our hair, and um, mine

768
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: just kind of stuck. And then I had that big

769
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: first game and everyone's talking about the floppy haired guy

770
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: who scored twenty eight points in his first game or

771
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: twenty six points in his first game, and Dick Vitel

772
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: did the game and getting interviewed on TV, and I'm like, honestly,

773
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of my head, Holy sh it, like how

774
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: is this happening? Um and um, and it just stucked,

775
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: you know that, And then it just became kind of

776
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: my look, um, yeah, for better or worse looking back,

777
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: but took the go back even further. I read that

778
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: you were a six foot point guard as a freshman

779
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: in high school, Like you were a giant. Is that?

780
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: Do you think one of the big qualities that helped

781
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: you become such a good distributor and passer because you

782
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: were so big at an early age? Yeah? So I

783
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: was so I actually I had a like I was tall,

784
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: real tall when I was real little, and then I

785
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 1: just plateaued and then you know, seventh, eighth, ninth grade,

786
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: I was just like a normal I developed so late,

787
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: so I didn't go through puberty, so I was like seventeen.

788
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: So I was just like this little kid trying to

789
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: compete with you know, eighteen nineteen year old kids in

790
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: high school. So as a freshman, I didn't make varsity

791
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: from the jump, and people talk about, you know, like

792
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan didn't make it and it like it drove him.

793
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: I was devastated. So I didn't make varsity. So what happened? Wait?

794
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: What what happened? Why? How did you not get paid?

795
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they you know. I was like,

796
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: you know, start my freshman year, I was probably five

797
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: ten or something. We had an awesome program, and I

798
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: just wasn't good enough physically. So I was so piste off.

799
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: Like my first JV game, I scored thirty in the

800
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: first quarter. I just I was so piste off against

801
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: half a horsing where Matt Carroll played. I scored thirty

802
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. And I ended up playing some

803
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: varsity that year. But I did a really smart thing.

804
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: I grew six inches that year and I came back

805
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: to the sophomore at six six and I got m

806
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: VP of the league. So I went from JV to

807
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: being m VP of the league. Um, and it was

808
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: just a product of getting better physically growing into my body.

809
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: I was this awkward guy with long arms and big

810
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: feet trying to play as a freshman. Uh. One thing

811
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: I've had some folks talk about some former athletes here

812
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: is like the last ten months in America has been brutal.

813
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: A lot of kids haven't played sports. Uh, they're missing

814
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: a year. Um. I know you have a young guy,

815
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: What like advice would you give parents for their young

816
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: kids who may have been really good athletes in third, fourth,

817
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: fifth grade and now it's like I can't play sports, well,

818
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: mostly in California, but elsewhere in the country, like no

819
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: sports at all. Like how do you keep them motivate

820
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: and stay active when you've got video games and iPads

821
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: and all that fun stuff. It's so hard. I mean

822
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: I feel for the kids more than anything, obviously, Like

823
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: you said, this last year has been so hard on everyone.

824
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: But I just can't imagine being a kid in the

825
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: States right now. I see it with my family who

826
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: I speak to, and I talked about being lucky here.

827
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: Our kids live in normal life. But I would say

828
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: that this may sound a little bit cruel, but the

829
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: ones who really love it, are going to find a

830
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: way to shoot some hoops, like like, I know I

831
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: would have found a way just because I breathed it.

832
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: But you know, to keep kids motivated, it's so hard.

833
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: To your point, there's so many distractions. Now you've got

834
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Xbox and PlayStation and video games and iPads. Like you said, um,

835
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: it's much more difficult. I think the one really fortunate

836
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: thing it looks like from the science of this that

837
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: kids are not quite as effective. So you know, hopefully

838
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: kids are getting out and staying active, but um, it's

839
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: a tough time. I hope for everyone's mental sake more

840
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: than anything, we get through this quicker than than not,

841
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: just so kids can get back to playing and being active.

842
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: I want to ask growing up, will you was basketball

843
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: You're definite number one? Or did you have other sports?

844
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: Because there is that big debate eight Should I specialize

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Speaker 1: in basketball because I'm good in fourth grade? Should I

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Speaker 1: just avoid football and baseball and lacrosse and all this?

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Speaker 1: Or did you play every sport? Yeah? I played every

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Speaker 1: I played basketball, baseball, in American football, so I played everything.

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Speaker 1: Baseball was always my number one sport because my dad

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Speaker 1: coached it, and I was always honest say, I was

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Speaker 1: just much better at baseball growing up. Um, and then

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Speaker 1: I got to be about thirteen, uh, twelve or thirteen,

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Speaker 1: and I was and I just kind of clicked the

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Speaker 1: switch and I was like, Okay, basketball is where I

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Speaker 1: want to be. And I just started loving it and

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Speaker 1: I gave up the other sports around that age. I'm

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Speaker 1: a big believer you should play everything, because, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I grew up with me and my dad, we had

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Speaker 1: a ball everywhere we went, whether it was me dribbling

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Speaker 1: a basketball or a tennis ball. You know, if we

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Speaker 1: were going, if my mom made us go shopping or

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Speaker 1: something like that, we had a tennis ball and we'd

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Speaker 1: be out in the parking out throwing the ball. And

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Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate that great dad and great parents. But um,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a believer that all those other things, like

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Speaker 1: me playing football and baseball, it gave me great hand

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Speaker 1: eye coordination and I had really good hands and I could,

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Speaker 1: you know, throw long passes. And I just think it

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Speaker 1: helps develop your overall skills if you do other things.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess I guess that's you know,

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Speaker 1: each each parent and kids decisions. All right, I'll wrap

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Speaker 1: up with this, Matt uh NBL season is underway the Breakers.

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Speaker 1: Uh first game is today actually as we were recording

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Speaker 1: this on Wednesday. First game is on Thursday. Um, you know, Matt,

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Speaker 1: any thoughts on the season. There's no R. J. Hampton

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Speaker 1: versus LaMelo ball, which was fun last year. That I mean,

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Speaker 1: I said, all kinds of streaming records for the league. Um,

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Speaker 1: I know that Lamar Patterson's a big edition and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people remember him from Pitt. But any other

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Speaker 1: overarching thoughts on the league heading into the season. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be very good, which is always

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Speaker 1: exciting going into the season. I think probably all ten

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Speaker 1: or nine teams steel that way. But um I mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: We've got I think Josh Getty for the people who

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Speaker 1: really love the NBA and basket of fans. Josh Kiddy

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Speaker 1: is a young Australian who has a little bit of

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Speaker 1: Luca don Chick in him. He's about six six seven

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Speaker 1: six eight. You can't speed him up. His first game

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Speaker 1: the other night, he actually got a concussion and he

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Speaker 1: played like he banged his mouth up. He dunked and

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Speaker 1: he felt he finished the game. But he had sixteen

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Speaker 1: eleven and seven and carried the team and double overtime

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Speaker 1: to a win. And he had this nasty post up

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Speaker 1: spin move to kind of ice the game. If you're

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Speaker 1: a big time NBA fan, Josh Kiddy is somebody you

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Speaker 1: should watch out for. I think he's gonna be climbing

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Speaker 1: up the boards. And just in terms of our league,

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Speaker 1: it's such high level. Now. All the imports in our

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Speaker 1: league are former NBA guys. You got Donald Sloan. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really high level basketball. So if you're a

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Speaker 1: fan and the NBA pauses for any reason because of COVID,

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Speaker 1: check out some NBL games. We're gonna be really good.

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Speaker 1: You can watch him all on twitch. Um. The league

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Speaker 1: is growing and I can't wait. This year. We were

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Speaker 1: supposed to play the Brooklyn Nets in the Philadelphia seventies

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Speaker 1: sixers in preseason, so we would have played against maybe

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Speaker 1: KD and Kyrie. But now but now you know, whenever

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Speaker 1: we can, we're gonna play the Nets. Uh So that

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Speaker 1: would have been a lot of fun. But we'll be

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Speaker 1: back by an NBA game soon and hopefully we gained

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Speaker 1: some American fans this year. Yeah, it was there in Memphis.

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Speaker 1: I will definitely make the trick to Brookland for that one.

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Speaker 1: All right, Matt Walsh continued success, stay safe on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the world, and uh we'll follow you

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Speaker 1: online and everywhere. And good luck to the breakers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me.