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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. It's Tuesday afternoon. It's One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalidah Health. We're coming here from Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: New York, the home of the Bills. If you're watching

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Speaker 1: Bills right now. Knew her A field that looks exactly

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Speaker 1: like it did yesterday. Nothing has changed. I think that's

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Speaker 1: yesterday's shot. I think they're playing a trick Mills in

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Speaker 1: the control room for yesterday it was sunny, that's right.

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Speaker 1: But the field look the snows in the exact same

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Speaker 1: spot yesterday. Nothing has changed. Shoveling crew has not helped

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Speaker 1: as a bit, but things have changed around the Bills

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Speaker 1: and a little bit around the NFL. Good afternoon, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. My name is John Murphy. This is

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Speaker 1: Teve Tasker. We think we have a pretty good show

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Speaker 1: for you today, this offseason version of One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Here until three o'clock. A couple of good guests coming

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Speaker 1: up today on the show. Coming up at one thirty.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Brant. He's always one of my favorite guests because

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Speaker 1: he's always got an interesting and unique take on the

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Speaker 1: business of the NFL the CBA is it sounds like

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Speaker 1: they're getting close to a new CBA. He's got a

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Speaker 1: list of the top ten business stories of the twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen season. Andrew Brant Monday Night or Monday Morning Quarterback

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Speaker 1: Weekly Columnists joins us at one thirty today two o'clock

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Speaker 1: one of our another one of our favorites, Ross Tucker

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Speaker 1: played offensive line here, played for a couple of other teams.

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Speaker 1: At radio dot Com NFL Insider, he's got thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Bills and a bunch of other things.

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Speaker 1: We got a couple of thoughts on a couple of

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Speaker 1: those issues, including Greg Olson, veteran tight end. Kind of

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Speaker 1: visited the Bills, the Redskins, and now it turns out

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Speaker 1: Seattle as well. Greg Olson released by the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 1: the Panthers calling for his release. He's thirty four years old,

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Speaker 1: He's a veteran. He had fifty two catches last year,

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Speaker 1: and according to this report unconfirmed by the Bills, greg

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Speaker 1: sometime this week. We don't win. How can you go

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Speaker 1: wrong having Greg Olson? Stop and take a look, right, Stee,

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Speaker 1: And you think too every time you think about somebody

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Speaker 1: him into the roster, who's leaving? And the two most

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Speaker 1: You're probably not gonna get rid of you know, Dawson

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Speaker 1: like Lee Smith was brought in as a mentor, he's

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Speaker 1: next NFL dynasty? On the Twitter poll, fifty five percent

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Speaker 1: of you say yes they can. You know what might

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Speaker 1: what could stop them? And it makes sense solid competition.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's somebody else in the AFC who could stop

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Speaker 1: them from being a dynasty. You know who I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the team right on the other side of the

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Speaker 1: wall over there could be a thorn in their side,

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Speaker 1: a team that could prevent them from making multiple Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl appearances. Somebody has to and the Bills certainly know

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Speaker 1: the role to play when it comes to, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: surrendering a division anyway to the New England Patriots over

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Speaker 1: almost twenty years. Maybe the Bills can be the team

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Speaker 1: that prevents them from going to multiple Super Bowls or

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Speaker 1: at least establishing that kind of dynasty. There are others

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Speaker 1: as well who might prevent them from having that kind

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Speaker 1: of successful track record. What do you think eight oh

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Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Can the Chiefs become the next

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Speaker 1: dynasty in the NFL? Give us a call and we'll discuss,

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Speaker 1: and we'll do it on the phone. We'll do it

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. The phone lines are wide open,

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Speaker 1: by the way, and we'll do it on the Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: Let's do the Twitter tweet sheet. The tweet sheet brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. From the tweet sheet, Can the Bills

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Speaker 1: become the can the Chiefs got ahead of myself? And

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs become the next dynasty in the NFL? From

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Speaker 1: our banister, he says, no, Bill Belichick has not retired yet. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a short, terse response. But if your

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Speaker 1: point is there are other teams that might have a

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Speaker 1: saying this, your point is well taken. Maybe the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are prevented from being in dynasty by the Patriots. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the Bills are the team that get in Kansas City's

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Speaker 1: way of somebody else, Ravens. There's some people, there's some

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Speaker 1: teams out there that could have some real say and

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Speaker 1: feel like the same way that the Chiefs do. Now,

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Speaker 1: certainly the Baltimore Ravens have got to feel their Their

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Speaker 1: season got ended really quick and a little bit prematurely.

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Speaker 1: This year. They were the number one seed. They went

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Speaker 1: out in the first round of the playoffs, and it

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Speaker 1: happened in two years in a row. The Bills had

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Speaker 1: happened two out of three years where they exited the

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Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. So you've got these teams

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Speaker 1: that are competitive and talented, and they seem like they're

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Speaker 1: on the on the rise, like the Ravens and of

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Speaker 1: course like the Bills. But you got to get those

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Speaker 1: next steps, you know, you gotta take a couple of steps.

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Speaker 1: It could have just as easily been reversed. It could

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Speaker 1: have been the Bills that won a game or two

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Speaker 1: two years ago by happenstance or by luck or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And it could have been the Baltimore Ravens this year

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Speaker 1: who won a couple of games and been and then

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs not make it that far. So then we'd

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Speaker 1: be having another conversation. So there's certainly some teams that

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are looking at going you know, those are

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Speaker 1: the guys we gotta beat Buffalo maybe one of them,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore certainly one of them. Pittsburgh maybe bounced and back

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Speaker 1: with Ben Roethlisberger come back. There's some other teams that

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Speaker 1: are gonna be in the conversation. And it doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to be the same team every year. Right right. What

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Speaker 1: do you think can the Chiefs become the next dynasty

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Speaker 1: in the NFL? Greg tweets this, and hey, it's happening

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Speaker 1: before our eyes. They very white, mellow. They very well

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Speaker 1: might have won the Super Bowl last season had d

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Speaker 1: Ford not lined up off sides on a Brady pick

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Speaker 1: or a coin landed on the opposite side and overtime.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes has a League MVP and Super Bowl MVP on

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Speaker 1: his resume after he's played just thirty six games. Very

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Speaker 1: good point, Greig, Very good point. I mean, they didn't

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Speaker 1: lose by much a year ago. There are only a

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Speaker 1: couple of instances that prevented them from winning the AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game in overtime. The d Ford off side play.

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Speaker 1: They never got the ball in overtime. That's the rule.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. But they were

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Speaker 1: that close to being the AFC champion two straight years,

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Speaker 1: and it makes you think maybe they got something going

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Speaker 1: on here. Maybe they are a dynasty, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the making, and have already got a good jump start

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Speaker 1: at it now. And a dynasty is what it is.

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Speaker 1: You've got to keep it together or keep winning games

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Speaker 1: with a different cast of characters. Certainly you're gonna they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna let Pat Mahomes get out the door. There's

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Speaker 1: no way can they keep it together once they start

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Speaker 1: paying that guy thirty eight million bucks a year. Well,

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Speaker 1: that takes us to a tweet from LD sports signing,

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Speaker 1: and he's got a good point. Maybe this is what

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Speaker 1: you know. Maybe this is the design of the salary cap.

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Speaker 1: By the way LD sports tweets this and on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet, signing Mahomes to a huge contract potentially forty

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year will take significant camp money away

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Speaker 1: from other key positions, which will weaken them. Need to

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Speaker 1: win like they did when the quarterback is on entry contract.

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Speaker 1: Good point. They do need to do that. They have

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Speaker 1: done that, and they have won big overtime in an

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game and a Super Bowl win as Mahomes

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Speaker 1: with Mahomes as the starter. But can you sustain that

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Speaker 1: when he gets the you know, the big contract, the

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Speaker 1: second contract, that'll be the challenge for them. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: and our guests coming up later in the show. Andrew

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Speaker 1: Brand he tweeted this out. A statistic that's interesting because

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Speaker 1: he says, listen, roughly fifty percent of NFL rosters are

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Speaker 1: on rookie contracts. That means they're making plus or minus

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Speaker 1: a million bucks. You know, they're right around there. And

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Speaker 1: so the idea of that a team cannot afford an

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Speaker 1: elite contract for a quarterback or other top players, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: The money is there. You can pay a quarterback forty million,

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Speaker 1: particularly with a two hundred million dollars salary cap, pay

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Speaker 1: the guy forty million bucks. You've got one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty to spread out over the rest of the fifty

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Speaker 1: two men of the roster, and you can do it.

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Speaker 1: There are guys that can do it fifty half of

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Speaker 1: your roster. Statistically, half of the rosters are making a

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Speaker 1: million bucks fortieth of that. So there are going to

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Speaker 1: be got there. That's how you're gonna build these rosters.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have done in a number of different ways.

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Speaker 1: They get in middle of the road free agents, they

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Speaker 1: get a couple of guys that are good, not eye popping.

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Speaker 1: You put them on shorter contracts some of them, some

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Speaker 1: of them, or the kind of guys that still kind

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Speaker 1: of grind it out. You're gonna get good production, not

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Speaker 1: great production, but consistent production, and the teams can work

545
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Speaker 1: with that. That's the Bills philosophy. Other teams, like the Jets,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna pay Levy on Bell, you know, fourteen million

547
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Speaker 1: bucks to be a great running back, you know, and

548
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Speaker 1: they're gonna live like that. Camp management is the key,

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Speaker 1: and you can kind of project the Chiefs forward to

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Speaker 1: they get until they get to the second contract for

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, and the Bills will be challenged when they

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Speaker 1: get to a second contract for Josh. But look, the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers have done it pretty well with Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and you know, making big money. The Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: have done it pretty well with Russell Wilson making real

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Speaker 1: big money. They've remained competitive. Are they dynasty either one, No,

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Speaker 1: they are not. The Patriots have done it exceptionally well

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Speaker 1: with Brady making top dollar, although not top top dollar.

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Speaker 1: But that's the challenge for a team when they get

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback second contract, and that will be a

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Speaker 1: factor and if the Chiefs can be seen the NFL

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Speaker 1: to be a dynasty. And to me, the Seahawks have

563
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Speaker 1: done a pretty good job of it because they had

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Speaker 1: the legion of boom on when Russell Wilson was on

565
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Speaker 1: his rookie contract, and then they evolved away from Richard

566
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Speaker 1: Sherman left. All those great defensive players left, Class Campbell,

567
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Speaker 1: all those guys left, and they had to start winning

568
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Speaker 1: games in a different manner. And now they've managed to

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Speaker 1: continue to be competitive, not a dynasty getting the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but not a dynasty, right. They haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: do that, but they're paying different guys now in their

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Speaker 1: deep playoff runs than they were when they went to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and won it. So that's what are

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs going to have to do? That? Is that

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Speaker 1: the way the league is structured? Or are they going

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Speaker 1: to get Are they gonna get their guy Pat Mahomes

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Speaker 1: to play for like New England did where for ten

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Speaker 1: for thirty percent less than the market value? That's a

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Speaker 1: good question. We're asking today the Chiefs. Will they become

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Speaker 1: the next dynasty in the NFL? Why or why not?

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Speaker 1: It's our Twitter poll, it's our topic of discussion to

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Speaker 1: kick things off today. Give us a call. We got

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Speaker 1: a couple of phone calls we'll get to when we return.

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Speaker 1: Eighth three five fifty toll free outside Buffalo one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty just getting rolling

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll all of a sudden for thirty three

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Speaker 1: minutes in the show. I'm very proud of this Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of the way it happened. You know. I

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Speaker 1: came in with an idea, we hashed it out, we

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Speaker 1: massaged it, we talked about it. We got a bonified

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Speaker 1: question up there. That's why it's supposed to work. Here

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Speaker 1: bonifide question. Oh yeah, that's pretty good. The Twitter poll today,

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Speaker 1: Can the Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs become the next dynasty

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Speaker 1: in the NFL? Why or why not? Give us a call.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it on the Twitter pole. With how

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Speaker 1: many votes in there? Oh, it's only one ninety four?

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Speaker 1: Fifty two percent say yes they can be a bonified

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Speaker 1: dynasty in the NFL, forty eight percent and say no,

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Speaker 1: they will not be in bonified dynasty in theF That's

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Speaker 1: very close. And I like the fact that it's close.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a thought provoking question. Can the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs become the next dynasty in the NFL? Why or

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Speaker 1: why not? And I love the way we came about.

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Speaker 1: We came around to it, you know, we just kind

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Speaker 1: of I came in with an idea and you guys

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Speaker 1: massaged it and there you go. Yeah, Tony on a

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Speaker 1: cell phone, Hello Tony around the air, Hey guys, how

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Speaker 1: are you today? Good? Just real quick, I'm a super

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Speaker 1: I loved how Sammy you mentioned Richard Sherman and I

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Speaker 1: just loved how Sammy Watkins just torched him in that order.

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Speaker 1: But moving right along, I don't think so because I

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Speaker 1: don't think that their foundation is built correctly. I mean

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Speaker 1: every one sided, and once those guys, like if they

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Speaker 1: if they were to lose Sammy or Kelsey or any

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Speaker 1: one of those weapons, they become rather ordinary. And it

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Speaker 1: happened to him in the middle of the season a

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Speaker 1: little bit. When you say one sided, you mean they're

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Speaker 1: based on offense, offensive playmakers. That's exactly They're not like

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Speaker 1: where the Buffalo Bills have a tremendous foundation built not

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Speaker 1: only on defense. We've got it going on. It's not finished. Check.

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Speaker 1: We're about three or four major pieces away from having

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Speaker 1: being a championship caliber team, which brings me to this

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Speaker 1: next point. Well, before we leave your first point, which

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Speaker 1: is a good one, can I offer the corollary, which

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Speaker 1: would be the Bills are one side of two and

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Speaker 1: maybe they're on the wrong side of the ball that

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Speaker 1: you need offensive playmakers to beat championship caliber. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to argue that the Bills have those people in place

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Speaker 1: just yet, isn't it. No, that's we'll know. What I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing is is we're like about three or four foot

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Speaker 1: you know, I think we got to find today's version

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Speaker 1: of Bruce Smith, but I also need to find we

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Speaker 1: need to also find like a premium in this draft,

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Speaker 1: like Steve Pass specifically. I'm going to ask you this,

639
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Speaker 1: is there a guy that sticks out at the t

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Speaker 1: O level of Moss or like one of those premier guys,

641
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Speaker 1: And can we like maybe steal a guy in the

642
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Speaker 1: third or four from what's how we got Andre Reid

643
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Speaker 1: second deck? Well, yeah, I mean I don't think there's Well,

644
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Speaker 1: first of all, you're not gonna find Bruce Smith. No,

645
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: that guy doesn't exist. There may be some really good

646
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Speaker 1: players in this draft. You're picking number twenty two in

647
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Speaker 1: the first round. And you can imagine this and count

648
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: on this the Bills through free agency in the weeks

649
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: coming up and leading up to the draft, they're gonna

650
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: get their roster in a spot where, no matter what

651
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: player they have rated highest on their board, no matter

652
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Speaker 1: what position, whether it's a wide receiver, an edge rusher,

653
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Speaker 1: a cornerback, a tight end safety, the best player available

654
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Speaker 1: is going to be the one they take at number

655
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Speaker 1: twenty two. Now, it may be that they have some

656
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: guys really close and they'll say, Okay, we need a

657
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: receiver more than we need, say a corner, or more

658
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Speaker 1: than we need a linebacker or a guard or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So that may come into play, but you can bet

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Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen. So you're right, you're not gonna

661
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Speaker 1: know you pick a guy like Andre Reid until three

662
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Speaker 1: years down the road when the guy worked so hard

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Speaker 1: that he emerged as a great player. That's what happened

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Speaker 1: Andre Reid, That's what happens to all of these guys.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, certainly there's guy with guys with the

666
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Speaker 1: potential to do that in this draft, but you're not

667
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Speaker 1: going to know it for three years. And that's the

668
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: issue that you know, you say, wow, these guys are geniuses.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knew Matt Milano was going to be a fifth

670
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Speaker 1: round draft pick was going to be a starter as

671
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: soon as he as soon as they lined up in

672
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Speaker 1: his rookie year. So those guys happen once in a while.

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Speaker 1: But you can't think that you're going to be the

674
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Speaker 1: only team that sees it, or that you're going to

675
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Speaker 1: be able to do it better than the other teams.

676
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Speaker 1: The simple fact of the matter is, statistically speaking, your

677
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: draft picks are going to be about as successful as

678
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Speaker 1: everybody else's. Everybody works on it the same way. They

679
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: all have the same attitude about it. They all turn

680
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: over every rock they can find. Certain philosophies seem to

681
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: work better, but only if the players that fit into

682
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Speaker 1: that philosophy are available when they pick. Otherwise those players

683
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Speaker 1: go to somebody else. There's all those things in the mix.

684
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: So the draft is impossible to handicap until three years

685
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: down the road, and all you can do is try

686
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Speaker 1: to set yourself up with more guys in free agency

687
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Speaker 1: that you know that what you've got there, And I

688
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: think the Bills do it right. They don't go out

689
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: and overpay for guys, or do that they get guys

690
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: who are going to remain productive and not be making

691
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: more than the Bills are paying, or even if they do,

692
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: it's not much, or if they sign them, they're going

693
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: to be more productive than the Bills are paying them. Like,

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00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, the two Safeties we got to I think

695
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: are bargains, even though they got him in free agency

696
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: and paid him a good buck. So all that stuff

697
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: is in the mix. But it all comes down to

698
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: picking the right guys for your team, and once you

699
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: get them, you gotta use them and they gotta stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: I think the caller and he had good points, but

701
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: I think he's totally dismissing the random nature of the draft.

702
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean is to just go out

703
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: and think, yeah, we'll get the Bruce Smith in this

704
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Speaker 1: traf I'll no, you won't. Bruce Smith is a once

705
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Speaker 1: in a lifetime home Famer. He's not available. Yeah. Andre

706
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: Reid was a fourth round pick in nineteen eighty five,

707
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Speaker 1: let me tell you, and I was okay until eighty six,

708
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Speaker 1: eighty seven. Now, then he got eighty eight and he

709
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: was pretty good. He was chosen by a team that

710
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: was totally dysfunctional right that he was chosen by a team.

711
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: Do you think anybody here in Buffalo in nineteen eighty

712
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: five and it's it's eons a go to some people,

713
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: it's within my lifetime. Do you think anybody here thought,

714
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: I think we got a chance with this read guy.

715
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: I think he's a potential Hall of famer. But he

716
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: lasted until the fourth round, packed the wide receiver ahead

717
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Speaker 1: of him. Yes, they had no idea he was going

718
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Speaker 1: to be a Hall of famer. The point is, I

719
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Speaker 1: don't know what the point is. The draft is random,

720
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Speaker 1: and once guys are drafted, some guys kicking into gear

721
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: and become great and become Hall of famers. Others go

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Speaker 1: the other way. The draft is very random, and I

723
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: think you can't discount that when you when you look

724
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Speaker 1: at this draft for the Bills, you were having our

725
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: we're having this conversation earlier today, Murph, where you get

726
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: guys the Bills have had different draft picks where they

727
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: come in like Aaron Mabon. You know, you think, well,

728
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Speaker 1: this kid's got a chance. You know he's a little

729
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: bit underside, but man, oh man, can you know, no,

730
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: he didn't work out a chance? And then Mike Williams,

731
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Speaker 1: a big offensive lineman who was a phenomenal athlete. He

732
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: didn't want to play, you know, so they and you

733
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Speaker 1: don't know that, all of a sudden, the kid comes in,

734
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Speaker 1: he says, yeah, I want to play. It was great

735
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: and then he look takes one look. Three weeks later

736
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Speaker 1: at his bank account, he said, wow, you know what,

737
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Speaker 1: I'm good? Right. Yeah, that's the way, and it's literally

738
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: that is the way. It happened to every team every year,

739
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: every player. You get lucky sometimes in the draft, so

740
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Speaker 1: to say that let's go out and we'll get an

741
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Speaker 1: Andre Read or we'll get you know, that was a

742
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick in nineteen eighty five, when the Bills

743
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: were tripping over them teams. Yeah, they were tripping over themselves,

744
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: trying to make something happen. Let's go out and get

745
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith. The reason they were in position to get

746
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: the first overall pick here because they were terrible the

747
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: year before, still making bad decisions. They drafted a guy

748
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Speaker 1: who fit the Bill, and not only that, they drafted

749
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Speaker 1: a guy who exceeded their expectations because of his hard

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Speaker 1: work and his determination. I just don't know, I just

751
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: don't want to lean on the draft thinking we're in

752
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: position to get the next Hall of Fame because there's

753
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of Hall of fame. You take

754
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: your best shot in the draft, you really do. You

755
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: take your best shot. And that's why these teams, it

756
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: was back when I was playing, where these teams would

757
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: actually start going out and sitting down with these guys

758
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: and talking to them before they handed him a contract

759
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: worth millions of bucks. They start interviewing them. That was

760
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: during my life, right. They they go to the news stand, yeah,

761
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: and they say, if any of you guys seen this guy.

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00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah here, um, yeah, I went. I saw him six

763
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Speaker 1: weeks ago. You know, there just wasn't the money or

764
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: the resources to go out and scour the thing. Now,

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00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: even though there is, they still sit these guys down.

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Speaker 1: And now the kids come in prepared. Their agents have

767
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: got them saying, hey, if they ask you this question,

768
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: answer it this way. If they say this, you say that,

769
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: here's your attitude here. You got to you have this

770
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: mindset when you go in there. So the kid's totally

771
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: prepared and it's disingenuous. The interview process becomes this, you

772
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: know this song and dance for the play, trying to

773
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Speaker 1: impress everybody in the room. So it's here we are.

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00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: You know it's it's twenty twenty. We're right back to

775
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: square one here with the draft question of the day.

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Speaker 1: Can the Kansas City Chiefs become the next dynasty in

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Speaker 1: the NFL? Mark on the line from Erie Pa. Hello, Mark,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air the gentleman. One thing, mister Tasker.

779
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: Don't take it to heart with that Hall of Fames

780
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: snub once again. It's like beating a dead horse. Anyone

781
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: who's seen you play back in no years. No, you're

782
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: a bonified Hall of famers through and through. I appreciate it, Mark,

783
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: I feel like a dead horse. Go ahead, proud, be

784
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: proud of your career, mister Tasker, and I know you are.

785
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: You were one of the greatest special teamers to ever

786
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: play the game, and you were a great wide receiver

787
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: when you were asked, you just got beat up because

788
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: you were a little undersize. Oh, I appreciate it. On

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, I don't see him being a

790
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: dynasty for one reason. Patrick Mahomes is gonna want forty

791
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: million dollars. You guys have touched on that a little

792
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: bit here anyway. I don't, and they're gonna have to

793
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: pay him. They're gonna have to pony more for Chelsea. Um. Hey,

794
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 1: they've already got their Super Bowl, so they did their job.

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Speaker 1: But no, I don't see him being the dynasty. Have

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Speaker 1: a great day, gentleman. Right, there's a lot into it.

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00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: You're right, there's a lot in your phone call, even

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00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: though it's pretty brief. Yeah, you gotta find You gotta

799
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Speaker 1: pick the right guys that you're gonna build your team around.

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Speaker 1: And also you can't alienate those star players by who

801
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: you release as well. You gotta have great you got to.

802
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: You gotta have a great system in place, and the

803
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: players have got to understand it's ass and they usually do.

804
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: But how they're this is amazing too that the players

805
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: tend to take it way too personal when the contract

806
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: talked come up, they take it way too because for

807
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: the player it is personal. For the team it is not.

808
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: It's business. It's numbers and it's board pieces on a

809
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: chessboard or a white board or whatever you want to cut,

810
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: whatever analogy you want to make, and it's just a

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Speaker 1: game of fitting the numbers and the players in the

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00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: production they bring onto the into the budget for the players,

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00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: it's personal. And it's like that for a lot of

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00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: people outside of football too. If you want to show

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Speaker 1: me respect in my profession, do it with my paycheck.

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00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: It's the same thing for NFL football players, and they

817
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: tend to take it personally. And if if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about a guy like you and me, Murph sitting here,

819
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: you tell a young guy who's got a wife and

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple of kids, you know, we want you

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Speaker 1: to stay here, but we're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: pay you as much as you might get on the

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00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: open market. And when you say, well, okay, well I'll

824
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Speaker 1: be able to talk about it. How much were we

825
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: talking about that guy? Well, it's gonna be like maybe

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Speaker 1: one point five million bucks over the first two years.

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Speaker 1: One point five million bucks, yeah, right, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: there are people who worked for forty years and don't

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Speaker 1: have that in there. Four or one k right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right. The kids gotta go. Listen, I got a

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Speaker 1: wife and two kids. I'm sorry, I'm out. That's the

832
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: way it works. I'll give you a hometown discount, but

833
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing a one point five million over two years.

834
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Speaker 1: It's crazy, and you gotta say, well, he's right. Ye, yes,

835
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Speaker 1: you know, take more phone calls when we come back

836
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Speaker 1: in the Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl champions? Can they

837
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Speaker 1: be the next Super Bowl dynasty? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call. One Does Live presented by Collada

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Speaker 1: Health from the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: One does Live. John Murphy, Steve Chansker, We're here and

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Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio an Archer party. It's a pretty busy

842
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: day for the off season. A lot of stuff going on. Yeah,

843
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Speaker 1: we're talking about the Chiefs. Are they the next NFL dynasty.

844
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Speaker 1: There's a report that Greg Olson coming in to visit

845
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Speaker 1: with the Bills, maybe signing the contract leader. Later on

846
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: this week, we got a Andrew Brandt coming on. Ross

847
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: Tucker's coming on. Andrew brand I want to talk to

848
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: about the CBA stuff coming down. That's really interesting to

849
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Speaker 1: me as a former player. I kind of remember I

850
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Speaker 1: was on strike at eighty seven. It was it's a

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00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah, I remember the scab games. That was.

852
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Speaker 1: How about a term. I see the kids today, the

853
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: kids today, I mean kids today, you kids today remember

854
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: the eighty seven players strike. Murph, Yes, when we were

855
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: out picking right out here, and they had a games. Yes,

856
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it was like a six to three game,

857
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 1: was it? With the Giants there? And it's field goals only.

858
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor actually played in the game. And I remember

859
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: driving into one Bill's drive. I'll never forget you guys

860
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: are picking in my friend Fred listen. Yeah, he was

861
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: very militant. Oh yeah, union guy sees me coming in.

862
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: We had to work. I mean, I wasn't breaking the strike.

863
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: We had to do the game. And Fred leans into

864
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Speaker 1: the window of the front window like driver, said win

865
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Speaker 1: in my car, spitting saying your scab, scab. Every time

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Speaker 1: he said scab, there was spittle flying all over. I

867
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Speaker 1: needed inside Winshield. It was, it was. It was an

868
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: ugly time. It was really bad. And four games, no

869
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: three games, three games, four weeks and everybody had they

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00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: brought scabs and stuff. A couple of teams took different

871
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: team photos because they wanted to write of the Dallas team.

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00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: Photo from the Scab nineteen eighty seven was unbelieving because

873
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: they had guys like with wigs on, you know, and glasses.

874
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: They had guys with like with purple wigs on. Because

875
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: the it was interesting because the scab guys wanted to

876
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: play because it would give them a foot in the door.

877
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: But they didn't want anybody to know that's who they

878
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: that they were playing, right, so they would disguise themselves.

879
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: They'd sneak around and stuff. And then when they you know,

880
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: when they strike broke, you know, of course we all

881
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: knew who they were. It was crazy, did you I'm

882
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: trying to think of there were scab holdovers who a

883
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: couple of maids, one or two of them. Yeah, and

884
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: how did you treat those guys? They forgot about it

885
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: after a year or two. It took a while. Right

886
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: right away, guys were not happy about him. We had

887
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: some teammates you know, who did it and and it

888
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: was hard. It was really hard because you wanted to

889
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: you wanted to have those guys on the team. You

890
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: liked him personally, but you know, you can't, you know,

891
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: you were trying to talk them out of going in anyway.

892
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: And then it was only one or two year, maybe

893
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: one or two around the league, but man, oh man,

894
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: that that strike, it went on for four It was ugly,

895
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: and I think that's when but I'll tell you this,

896
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: that's when things really changed for the better for the

897
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: players after that strike. It was a point where the

898
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: union decertified and they kind of got in Free agency

899
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: came out of that. It took four or five years

900
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: later on down the line to have all that happen.

901
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: But that's where Gene Upshaw and Paul Taglibo, who's now

902
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame, those two guys started

903
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: to sit down and they started to hash things out,

904
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: and it got a lot better for the NFL players

905
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: after that. After that, and we made progress, because I

906
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: think it's pretty obvious they have they're reaching a consensus

907
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: on a new CBA and there won't be a work stoppage.

908
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: This will be the second long CBA. They're talking about

909
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: a ten year deal. That'll be twenty consecutive years without

910
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: a stoppage. Now, there shouldn't be a stoppage in an

911
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: industry that generates as much revenue as the NFL does.

912
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: But they were generating revenue back then and they were

913
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: work stoppages. And I think eighty two and again a

914
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: little different through seven, and there's a little different. The

915
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: economics were much different back then. It went from in

916
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: eighty seven it was like a seven million dollars a

917
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: year eight million dollars a year industry, and all of

918
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: a sudden at balloon it started going up into the

919
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars real fast. They reached kind

920
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: of a critical mass, and the league expanded mushroom like

921
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of it had to do with the

922
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: broadcast partners. You know, Fox came onto the scene at

923
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: some point and when they wanted in, CBS got kicked

924
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: to the curb and was out. And all of a sudden,

925
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: the rights fees became enormous, and so did the presence

926
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: of the league, and they reaped a lot of benefits

927
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: from it. So the economics balloon and mushroomed and everything

928
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: followed from there. And then you know, the salary cap

929
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: hit and it started going up and up and up

930
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: and up and up, and then they you know, it

931
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: got to the point where nobody wanted to work stoppage,

932
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: and I think that that remained to the case. Now

933
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: they're trying to They started way out in front of

934
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: this before it expires. And it's a good thing. All right,

935
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: we're talking about the chiefs. Can they be a bonifid

936
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: NFL dynasty. We'll take more phone calls, We'll read more

937
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: tweets when we returned after the top of the hour.

938
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: Coming up at one thirty today will be live on

939
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: the line with Andrew Brandt about CBA and the business

940
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: of the NFL. And at two o'clock Ross Tucker, former

941
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: Bill's offensive lineman, come on back back two hours ago.

942
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Hell from the Seneca

943
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: Studio in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio Buffalo

944
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: Hills Radio Network. Sports update update from One Bill's Drive.

945
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: Greg Olson, now a free agent in the Buffalo Bills,

946
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: apparently are interested to Carolina. Panthers officially released a veteran

947
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: tight end yesterday on the Transaction Wire, four days after

948
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: Olson and the Panthers announced that they were partying ways. Olson,

949
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: thirty four years old, he had one year left on

950
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: his dealer would have cost eleven point six million dollars

951
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: this year. Now he's free to sign with another NFL team.

952
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: Olson doing his diligence. NFL never reports that he will

953
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: visit with the Buffalo Bills, the watching In Redskins, and

954
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. Sean McDermott spent some time with Carolina,

955
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: as did Ron Rivera, the head coach now at DC,

956
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, thirty four years old, now a free agent,

957
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: reportedly going to visit the Buffalo Bills this week. Super

958
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: Bowl put a halt to a four year decline in viewership.

959
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: Television viewership and estimated ninety nine point nine million people

960
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: watched the Kansas City Chiefs rally to defeat the forty

961
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: nine Ers, the most watched television event of the year.

962
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: It is a rebound slightly from the ninety eight and

963
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: a half million who watched in twenty nineteen. The Atlanta

964
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Falcons have announced they will not pursue negotiations with defensimen

965
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: Big Beasley, meaning the former NFL sack champion will be

966
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: a free agent. Beasley was coached Dan Quinn's first draft

967
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: pick in twenty fifteen. Eighth overall not consistent, led the

968
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: NFL with fifteen and a half sacks in twenty sixteen,

969
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: their Super Bowl year, but since then manages five sacks

970
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: in each of the twenty seventeen twenty eighteen seasons and

971
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: eight sacks this past season. Ron Rivera, had coach of

972
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: the Redskins, says that he hopes the team can settle

973
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: up with seven time Pro Bowl offensive lineman Trent Williams,

974
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: hoping they can move past the troubles of the last year.

975
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: Williams did not play a single down for Washington this year,

976
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: holding out most of the year before rejoining the team.

977
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars have announced that they'll play two of their

978
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: home games at Wembley Stadium in London, and they will

979
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: play them back to back, the first team in NFL

980
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: history to play two home games outside of the United

981
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: States in the same regular season. The opponents for the

982
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: games for the Jaguars are not yet decided, and also

983
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: one last issue the Sabers at home tonight against Colorado.

984
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: Carter Hutton has started both of the sabers last two games,

985
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: stop forty nine of the fifty two shots he faced

986
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: in those two games. Welcome Back Hour, too, John Murphy,

987
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here in Orchard Park, in the Seneca studio.

988
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: Here until three o'clock today. We've got Andrew Brandt from

989
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: the Business of the NFL. We'll join us at one

990
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: thirty and at two o'clock. Ross Tucker from all his

991
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: own man. He does everything. Yeah. Former Roster podcast, Former

992
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Bills Offense, Home and Home Podcast. I was actually a

993
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: guest on it. Last week. Yeah, I've done that before.

994
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: How did it go? Was good? Yeah, it's good. Ross.

995
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: Ross is great. He's a funny guy. He's got a

996
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: great personality. He's a different guy now than he was

997
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: as a player coming out of I think Columbia, right,

998
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: he was an Ivy League Princeton, Okay, came out of Princeton.

999
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: He came out with had an old chip on his shoulder.

1000
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: As a player, he was kind of chippy because he

1001
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: wanted He kind of stood out for that reason, and

1002
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: I think it extended his career because he knew he

1003
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: had to have some sort of edge edginess towards it

1004
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: to himself that he wouldn't back down from even great

1005
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: players or elite players. And he was in there scrapping around,

1006
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: and I think it really helped him in his career. Yeah.

1007
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: And he's completely different than that on the air. I mean,

1008
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: he couldn't be more gregary. Yeah. The guy's great. Yeah,

1009
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: good to have Ross on the show coming up at

1010
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: two o'clock today. He got a pretty good Twitter poll

1011
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: question today. We got a pretty good poll going on

1012
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy seven votes in so far. We're

1013
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: not killing it there, but got a lot of good

1014
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: ideas on this. Can the Kansas City Chiefs become the

1015
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: next dynasty in the NFL? Look twice they were two

1016
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: years ago, they were an overdime, went away from being

1017
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. They won the Super Well two

1018
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: days ago. They've got it. They've got it going on.

1019
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: They've got Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey at tight end. They've

1020
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: got players all over the field, Tyree Hill, players on

1021
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: defense showed up and played the other day. Can they

1022
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: be a dynasty? What do you think? On Twitter? Fifty

1023
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: four percent of you now say no, you don't think

1024
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: they will be interesting. Forty six percent say yes, you

1025
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: think they will be very close. Vote let's hear from

1026
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: you eight three five fifty toll free one eight eight

1027
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: eight five fifty. And for you and I, it's it's

1028
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: still three years off. They were in the AFC Championship

1029
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: Game last year, lost in overtime. That counts as part

1030
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: of this dynasty thing. They've got to be at the

1031
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: top of the conference and in the Super Bowl or

1032
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: right there for an extended period. And in this in

1033
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: this league, I think it's five years right. So they

1034
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: were there last year, they won it this year. How

1035
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: they do the next three years, will say whether this

1036
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: absolutely is a dynasty or not. Can they do it

1037
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: for three more years? I think they can. It's gonna

1038
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: be tough to be. Two came in today with an

1039
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: idea for a Twitter poll along the same line, and

1040
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: let's raise this question among ourselves here, how many more

1041
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: Super Bowl wins for the forty for the Chiefs over

1042
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: the next five years. Let's say that's the I mean,

1043
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: how many more Super Bowls will they win in the

1044
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: next five years. I think they'll win at least one

1045
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: more in the next five years, maybe two, maybe more.

1046
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: I really do. I think they're that good, and I

1047
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: think they're set up the right way. What do you

1048
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: think of that? I think that, I think the eve

1049
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think they're gonna be in

1050
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: the mix for the foreseeable future. Mahome, and I know

1051
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: that we're all kind of prisoners at the moment. You know,

1052
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: this team looks so good and we're so impressed with

1053
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: and their offense has been so unstoppable for two years now.

1054
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: I'll say this though, it's really hard to keep it going.

1055
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: It's really really hard, and they look unbeatable now, and

1056
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: they look like they're together, and we see them all

1057
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: hugging on the sidelines. All these players after the Super

1058
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: Bowls say I want to retire as a Chief. It's

1059
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: gonna be well, that's gonna change. You know, these guys

1060
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: are their contracts, You're gonna be up. They're gonna go

1061
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: to other teams. Players are gonna get injured, and Read

1062
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: is not getting any younger. And if he goes away,

1063
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: what happens to them? Does Eric bi Enemy leave his

1064
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and go be a head coach somewhere? Steve

1065
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: Spagnola the same thing. Are are they gonna be able

1066
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: as their coaching staff gonna be able to stay together?

1067
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of moving parts coming together and

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00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: playing really well and coaching really well and preparing really

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00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: well to keep it going. Are they gonna be able

1070
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: to do that for another three years in a row?

1071
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: Certainly they'll have guys under contract. But in three years

1072
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: or in two years, Kelsey's gonna need a new deal.

1073
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes already needs a new deal. You know all these

1074
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, Tyreek Hill, their offensive line, Eric Fisher, Schwartz,

1075
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: the two tackles that played so well. There's a lot

1076
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: of things to consider and any one of those guys,

1077
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: even if they're all intact, I gotta stay healthy, and

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00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: they got to continue to play really, really well and

1079
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: get the same breaks they did this year to Super Yeah,

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00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean and they all get Yeah, you get good

1081
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: breaks every once in a while. And of course the

1082
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: Chiefs have overcome bad breaks too. They're they're that good.

1083
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: Their defense stay that good. We'll see. What do you think?

1084
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: Give us a call eight three fifty toll free one

1085
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Can the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: become the next NFL dynasty? Dan and Angola had some

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00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: thoughts on this. Hello, Dan, go ahead, you're on the air. Yeah, Murph,

1088
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Appreciate it. Sure, we'll go

1089
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. I just want to say to Steve, Steve,

1090
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: you forgot one person. When that one guy was asking

1091
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: about getting Bruce Smith. Wasn't our favorite? Uh, Tom Brady

1092
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: wasn't He drafted in the sixth So the draft is

1093
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: just a roll of the dice. We all know that.

1094
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: But as far as the Chiefs are concerned, I'd like

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00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: fifty one percent yes and forty nine no. Are they

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00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: going to be competitive? Absolutely, they're gonna be competitive for

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00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: a long time. But everybody that knows anything about football

1098
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: clock management is big and Kyle Shanahan right at this moment. Yes,

1099
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: he turned the team around, but he needs to learn

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00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: clock management. He blew two Super Bowls? How did he

1101
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: blow Sunday Super Bowl with clock management? At the end

1102
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: of the game, there no running, no running trying to

1103
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: eat up the clock. It was he was throwing the ball,

1104
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: Samuel or Yeah. Their running game was effective the whole game,

1105
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: and they stopped running trying to eat up the clock

1106
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: with the ten point leading. Yeah, I think you're overstating

1107
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. Does he wishes does he wish he

1108
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: would have done things differently? Yes, I'm sure he does.

1109
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: He was He's not blameless in their loss, but I

1110
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: don't think he has a major clock management issue. I'm

1111
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: reminded of a tweet from our next guest coming up

1112
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: at two o'clock anyway, Ross Tucker. I'm trying to find it. Oh,

1113
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: here it is. It was eighteen hours ago. Ross Tucker

1114
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: tweeted this out, the quote Andy Reid can't win a

1115
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: big game. Crew made the most seamless transition to quote

1116
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Blewett I've ever seen. We're gonna talk to

1117
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: us about that. Just because you lose the Super Bowl

1118
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you, you you know, tripped over everything and

1119
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: you stumbled through the game. Coaches are not perfect. Coaches

1120
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: can do that, But I don't think Kyle Shanahan blew

1121
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: that game. Steve, what do you think? He coached that

1122
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: team to the number one seed in the most competitive

1123
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: division in football and they got the number one seed

1124
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: in the conference, coming out playing against the Rams and

1125
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 1: playing against the Seattle Seahawks and they were the number

1126
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: one seed. Kyle Shanahan knows what he's doing. And you

1127
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: can say what you want about hey, blown it at

1128
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: the end of the first half. They say, well, he

1129
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: sat on the ball, he didn't use the time out

1130
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: to stop the clock. He completed a forty two yard

1131
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 1: bomb to George Kittle down they got a pass interference call.

1132
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: He was not being conservative. He pulled off the play

1133
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: call that got him down there. Now there's a penalty

1134
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: that got it called back, but the play call that

1135
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: still stands. I mean, he wasn't he didn't pull the

1136
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: sales in. They were going for it and he was

1137
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: gonna do it. And think about this, He probably wasn't

1138
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: trying to conserve clock. He wanted to score with double

1139
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: zeros on the clock. He didn't want to score with

1140
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: thirty five seconds on the clock and then give it

1141
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: back to Andy Reidon Patrick Mahomes. The idea was to

1142
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: score with double zeros on it, and he gave them

1143
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: a chance to do it. He had two timeouts. He

1144
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: would have had two timeouts remaining first and ten inside

1145
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: field goal range, so they're gonna come up with points,

1146
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: and they could have taken a couple of shots with

1147
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: those timeouts into the end zone if they were incomplete passes.

1148
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: He didn't have to use the time out either, so

1149
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: he could have really run the ball as well. So

1150
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: he set them up perfectly, and with the bad pass

1151
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: interference call, he's like, oh, all right, forget it, and

1152
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: then they knelt down and went in and he was

1153
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: hot about the and it was it was a soft call,

1154
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: but I thought it was the right call, the pass interference.

1155
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: But he still gets credit for that for that play call.

1156
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean it was not he was not going He

1157
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: wasn't kneeling down on that. I mean he was throwing

1158
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: it deep to his best player, and you know they

1159
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: didn't work, So you can if not when something doesn't work,

1160
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it wasn't the right thing, or wasn't aggressive,

1161
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: or wasn't anything at the time. It just means they

1162
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: didn't work. So Shanahan's gonna you always take a beating.

1163
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: And I'm not really trying to get that im passionate

1164
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: about it. It has nothing to do with the fact

1165
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: that I was in that spot, you know, four times

1166
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: where we got beat four times in the Super Bowl.

1167
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: We played cruddy in a couple of those games, and

1168
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: we played actually pretty good in a couple of those games.

1169
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: And you know, you have bad moments and they count,

1170
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, and he don't come up winning, You don't

1171
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: come up and winner. Marvel leave. He's still in the

1172
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Deserves to be there. It's hard to

1173
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: get there. You get the number one seed, though, it

1174
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: doesn't mean like when you get into that game and

1175
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: the final thing that you forget how to coach. It's

1176
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: the same guy that got him too, the number one

1177
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: seed in the most competitive division in football. So Kyle Shannahan,

1178
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't have to he doesn't have any

1179
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: to do that. And I don't mean this to be

1180
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: mean or and that's a fine call, and I get it,

1181
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: But why do you think we and we do it

1182
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: all bill season? Long after a loss in particular, they

1183
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: fans mostly jump on a particular coaching decision made and

1184
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: say that's why they lost, that's why that guy can coach,

1185
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, Greg, Greg Roman, right, you know, call a

1186
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: bad game. Why why are we so quick to that.

1187
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the same guy who makes the good

1188
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: play calls. Yeah, he makes a couple of questionable you

1189
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: can you can follow the train of thought. I mean

1190
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: they're just we're casual fans. I mean we're you know,

1191
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: maybe not as casual as some people. But you sit

1192
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: there and you and you see him run the run

1193
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: the ball. It's not successful. I knew they were gonna

1194
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: run the ball. I just knew it. Don't run the

1195
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: ball here, and then they do run it. It's not

1196
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: successful and it's a bad play call. Well, just because

1197
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: you didn't want them to run the ball and they

1198
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: did and it wasn't successful doesn't mean the offensive coordinator

1199
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's gonna do or know what he's doing.

1200
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing in any way, shape or

1201
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: form you want to cut it when the coaching staff

1202
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: does something and it doesn't work, and you either anticipated

1203
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: they were gonna do it, or you were gonna do

1204
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: something different and what they did didn't work, you blame

1205
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: them for it. We're results oriented fan base, I mean

1206
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: everybody is. When the results aren't good, somebody's got to

1207
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: be blamed and you go as high as you can go,

1208
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: and that starts with the coaches. On the topic of dynasties,

1209
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: our guest too, Ross Tucker, had I was looking at

1210
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: the other one, uh, the other tweet that he had

1211
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: about you know, the Andy Reidkent win a big game crew.

1212
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: He hadn't. This is this goes directly to our question

1213
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: about dynasties, and we'll ask Ross this too. He tweeted

1214
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: this yesterday. I love Mahomes as much as anybody, but

1215
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: in terms of the dynasty talk, Ross Tucker says, combined

1216
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearances for Dan Marino, Drew Brees, and Aaron

1217
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: Rodgers after their first one, how many you think? Zero? Zero? Zero,

1218
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: Dan Marino, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, all three of them

1219
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers, they went to a Super Bowl? How

1220
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: many they go after their first one? None? I guess

1221
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: ROSSI you mean the next year, right? No, all time? Right?

1222
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: Marino never went back to Super Bowl, Breeze never went

1223
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: back to a Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers has never gone back.

1224
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: I think Ross Tucker is just saying pump the brakes

1225
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: a little bit on Dynasty talk, Isn't that what he's mentioning? Like, Yeah,

1226
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: we all appreciate Mahomes, we all appreciate how we played Sunday,

1227
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: especially down the stretch fourth quarter. But maybe he never

1228
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: gets back to a Super Bowl. Man. I don't think

1229
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: that's likely, but we'll talk with Russ Tucker about that.

1230
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: Eighth three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

1231
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Can the Chiefs become the

1232
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: league's net next dynasty? Let's go to Dan in Tampa. Hello, Dan,

1233
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: you're on the air? Dan? Are you there? Yeah? I

1234
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: was just trying to take out speaker. I no, no problem, Dan,

1235
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: I was just in Tampa last week. You got an

1236
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: A plus lineup for the next hour. I love those guys.

1237
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: Thank you NFL Radio. Every week, Thank you so um

1238
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me with you two as well as Greg

1239
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: co Sell those I can't wait every every week when

1240
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: you guys have them on, but um, Dan's a fan

1241
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: of the show Steve. Where to go, Man, No, you

1242
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: guys are studs. Thanks Dan. I was just in Tampa

1243
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: last week. Did you know that? Well, Saint Petersburg almost Tampa. Yeah,

1244
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: where the hell where you? Man? I want to take

1245
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: you to Charlie's brother. I was in Saint Pete Beach.

1246
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: It's not that for our ride. I know. I know

1247
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: we could smoke and I still get you know, I think, Okay,

1248
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: thank you. I know the topic because everybody's gonna get

1249
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: mad at me because I'm taking up too much time.

1250
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: So one, I think Mahomes and Casey can do it.

1251
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: Not that they will, but I think they can. And

1252
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: I think that the critical factor is that I like

1253
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: the fact that they're saying that Mahomes, we're going to

1254
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: put off his contract till next year and maybe even

1255
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: do the fifth year deal because you know, the extension,

1256
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: because of the fact that we save so much money

1257
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: to be able to keep the gang back or the

1258
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: band back together, that kind of thing. I think it

1259
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: would be great to see Kansas City keep going, you know.

1260
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: Not that I don't want them to beat bills, because

1261
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: I obviously would love for us to kill them. But

1262
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, the flip side is that you guys asked

1263
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: yesterday about what do we need to do to be

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Speaker 1: Kansas City or San Francisco. In my opinion is that

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Speaker 1: you guys have been putting it out this morning. You know,

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Speaker 1: if we can get Kelsey for the right price, and

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Speaker 1: we can get Hooper Henry and dropped the three besides Knox,

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Speaker 1: and then because that's cheaper than going after a wide

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Speaker 1: prester of pastor passbrusher and then draft those type of guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, and maybe do an outside linebacker in terms

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Speaker 1: of free agency, then you know this team is going

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Speaker 1: to be very different and very better. And Alan really

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Speaker 1: has no excuses. You put a battering run running back,

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Speaker 1: two wide receivers, a couple of great tight ends, and

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Speaker 1: you I mean like he basically has. And I love Alan,

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, right, but I mean I think

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Speaker 1: that now he's got what Mahomes had, and now let's

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Speaker 1: see what he can do, you know, and go from there,

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Speaker 1: and then in a couple of years we'll know we

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Speaker 1: got our guy. We don't have our guy. When you

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Speaker 1: say he's got what Mahomes heid, you mean if you

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Speaker 1: add what tight ends, free agent tight ends and receivers,

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Speaker 1: because right now he does not have what Mahomes has,

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Speaker 1: right Yeah, And I think a battering round running back

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Speaker 1: like the similar guy to the Seattle dude, the compliment singletary.

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Speaker 1: I think that if you have those two types of

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Speaker 1: running backs, those type of tight ends, those wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: added to Brown and Beasley, then you know Allen has

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Speaker 1: everything he needs to be able to be better, you know,

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Speaker 1: and so does There's no Dan, I agree with you,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for the calls. You're right, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It does come down A lot of it comes down

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Speaker 1: to Josh playing better than he did. We saw him

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Speaker 1: take a big step forward this year. Will it be

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Speaker 1: as easy or will it happen as smoothly as it

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Speaker 1: seemed to to take another step forward this next year?

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Speaker 1: Can he build on what he did this last year?

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Speaker 1: Can he get better? Because I think we all agree

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Speaker 1: he does need to get better, and we can point

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Speaker 1: to two statistics and all of that, and certainly even

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Speaker 1: with the eye test, you can pick out things last

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Speaker 1: year that he did very very much better than he

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Speaker 1: did two years ago. But he still nice to get better.

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Speaker 1: Better players around him will help that, no question, But

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Speaker 1: I'm still in the mind they had plenty of guys

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Speaker 1: this year to play much better and offensively anyway than

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Speaker 1: they did. I don't know if they'd have won eleven

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Speaker 1: games or twelve games rather than the ten that they won,

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Speaker 1: or whether they would have just won the same ten

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Speaker 1: by wider margins, but we know this, if their offense

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Speaker 1: would have scored more points than they were able to,

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Speaker 1: this would have been a much different season on its complexion,

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Speaker 1: even if they won ten games. If our offense scored

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Speaker 1: a touchdown a game more in the games that they

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Speaker 1: won this game, this team would be have a much

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Speaker 1: different feel than it does. So I'm with you, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I get him better players around him. But still having

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Speaker 1: said that, it's about him. It's about Josh. He's got

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Speaker 1: a complete more passes, make his decisions a little quicker,

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Speaker 1: come off his decisions a little quicker, and get the

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Speaker 1: deep ball back, thank you. And if he can do that, certainly,

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Speaker 1: a big time Derek Henry will help him. Certainly, a

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Speaker 1: big time guy outside like a Julio Jones will help him. Certainly.

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Speaker 1: Greg Olsen coming back and having a rebound year and

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Speaker 1: staying healthy would help him Certainly all of that and

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Speaker 1: getting maybe you know, drafting a tackle or whatever. All

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Speaker 1: this stuff we talk about at nauseum at law helped Josh.

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Speaker 1: But even so, the roster in this current form last year,

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Speaker 1: there was plenty of plays left on the table that

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback needs to learn how to get and

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Speaker 1: pull off the table and pick up and use. You know,

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Speaker 1: and I've said this law, Josh left a lot of

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Speaker 1: plays on the table last year, and the defense gave

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Speaker 1: him the ability to do that and still win games.

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Speaker 1: This next year, You'd love to see him be able

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Speaker 1: to pick up all those plays that we see him

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Speaker 1: miss this last year. If he can do that, he

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Speaker 1: does take a big step forward. He does, this team

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Speaker 1: does become you know, one of those teams is like, wow,

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Speaker 1: they are how are we going to beat these? You know,

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Speaker 1: they become different. It's not just like, gee, I hope

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Speaker 1: they played good this week. It's gonna be like, man,

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Speaker 1: that team can't beat us. You know, that's gonna be

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01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: that kind of attitude for all of us that sitting

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: out here thinking about the show right, thinking about the show,

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Speaker 1: thinking about a potential Twitter poll down Because I do

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01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: that too, and I write I don't write it. I

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Speaker 1: feel like maybe we've done this, maybe we haven't. The

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Speaker 1: number one way for the Bills offense, this is not

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Speaker 1: today's topic. I'm I'm thinking out loud here. The number

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Speaker 1: one way for the Bills offense to get better? Is

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01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: it draft a wide receiver at a complimentary running back?

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01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: Is it Josh Allen to improve or something else? What

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Speaker 1: do you think of that? Poll? It would be a

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Speaker 1: good one. Maybe that's the number one. Maybe it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter who they draft, who they signed free agency, it matters.

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Speaker 1: But maybe the most dramatic way for this Buffalo offense

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Speaker 1: to get better next year is for Josh Allen to

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Speaker 1: take quote unquote the next step. How about that, that'd

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Speaker 1: be That'd be a good topic. It's on We're gonna

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Speaker 1: use Did you write it? I did? I'm too lazy.

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Speaker 1: I got it down, I write it. I write it

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Speaker 1: all right. The producer says, Jay's in there chiming into

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Speaker 1: that's you're right. Maybe that's the number one way they

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Speaker 1: get better on offense. Yeah, think about it. Where we were,

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Speaker 1: you know, twelve months ago, uncertain? This is where we lived. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's about him. Can he can he take any step forward?

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Speaker 1: Can he can he get from fifty Can he move

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Speaker 1: off a fifty two percent completion percentage? Can he get

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Speaker 1: his touchdowns from like a two to one maybe three

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Speaker 1: to one? Can you know, can he throw for more

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Speaker 1: than three hundred yards in a game? You know all

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Speaker 1: of that stuff? Right? Can he not throw the you know,

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Speaker 1: can he not throw you know these multiple interceptions and

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Speaker 1: all you know that? Can he do it from the pocket?

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Speaker 1: Does he have to run something? Can he not have

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Speaker 1: a team where the quarterback leads us in rushing? Remember

1378
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: were two years ago and almost all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: The answer was, oh, yeah, he did that. You know,

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: he hasn't thrown for three hundred yards yet, but the

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Speaker 1: guys were pretty consistent. He got his touchdowns up to

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Speaker 1: what it was twenty twenty to nine. That's a big step.

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01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,479
Speaker 1: And and he didn't start out that way right right,

1384
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: The season was a slow start, slow start format. But

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01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: he got much better. And so can he get it

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01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: off to a better start in game? Can he do it?

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01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: Can he do it again? That's something to shoot for

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01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: for him. Can he get to starting games better, getting

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Speaker 1: off to a better start. Can he get instead of

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Speaker 1: fifty two to fifty eight? Can he get from fifty

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Speaker 1: eight to sixty four sixty five. That one doesn't bother me.

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Speaker 1: Can he get to twenty seven and nine? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Can he get to you know, instead of two hundred

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Speaker 1: yards a game or a little more, Can he get

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Speaker 1: to like two hundred and fifty yards a game on average?

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Speaker 1: You know what else he demonstrated he can do. He

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01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: can lead his team from behind. He demonstrated that this year.

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Speaker 1: But um, I mean, it wasn't perfect, but he did

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Speaker 1: a good job of fourth quarter comebacks. Still doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a three hundred yard passing game, which okay, you don't

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Speaker 1: need one, but it'd be nice to see that he's

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Speaker 1: that capability. All I'm saying is the big point here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he is the number one way they improve offensively.

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Speaker 1: Maybe take another phone call here, we'll go to Zaire

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. You're on the air. There's talking about the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Are they the next NFL dynasties? I here, what do

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Speaker 1: you think? Hey guys, how are you doing it? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs can do it. Um. The fact

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Speaker 1: that will they is the question? Um. But honestly, I

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Speaker 1: don't think we will see another dynasty unless Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: has a son a couple and they both worked for

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Speaker 1: him too, unfortunately. Um but I think if the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: possibly can do it, it's all going to depend on

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and how he sets the quarterback market, because

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Speaker 1: that's gonna determine if they can keep good players around

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Speaker 1: that team, you know, like Tyreek kill to Kelsey's the

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Speaker 1: running backs and Tyron Matthews and the defensive players and

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Speaker 1: all of that. So it's going to depend on how

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Speaker 1: they pay Patrick Mahomes and how that allows them to

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Speaker 1: move their cap room around them keep other good players

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Speaker 1: around him. Yeah, we talked about mahomes salary and our

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Speaker 1: next guest coming up a minute two here, Andrew Brand

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Speaker 1: had a tweet about mahomes salary. Right, what was that

1424
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: the league is on their rookie contracts. So even you

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Speaker 1: know they're on contracts like like Tradavious White and uh,

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano, guys like that who haven't really signed that

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Speaker 1: second deal yet. Fifty percent of the league is made

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Speaker 1: up of guys like that, and in knowing that they're

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Speaker 1: all making less than a million bucks a year, right

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Speaker 1: around a million bucks, that's not much money when you

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: got a two hundred million dollars salary caps. So then

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Speaker 1: you start spreading around to the veteran and you've got

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Speaker 1: plenty of money to pay a quarterback elite money, particularly

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Speaker 1: when they do what they do, and if it's a

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Speaker 1: guy like Mahomes who makes such a big difference for

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Speaker 1: all the other players on the team. And it's always

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Speaker 1: been my contention, I say it again, the quarterback makes

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Speaker 1: so many the receivers, the Tyreek Hills of the world,

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Speaker 1: and the Emmanuel Sanders guys, the guys are in the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, all those other guys. Mahomes and Garoppolo make

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Speaker 1: those guys the two tight ends. I mean, do you

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01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: think George Kittle and the other guy, Jason Kelsey, Travis Kelsey,

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Speaker 1: do you think they would have had those stellar years

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Speaker 1: if they'd been playing for a team like Buffalo, or

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Speaker 1: if they'd been playing for a team you name it,

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01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: like like the Jets. Would they've had those kind of

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01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 1: days if they were playing for the Denver Broncos. Yeah,

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: probably not. We would just say, hey, ye had a

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01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: pretty pretty good player. I don't know how good he is,

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01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: but those quarterbacks getting him the ball and finding him.

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01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: You can go back through the playoffs alone and look

1452
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: at the times that Mahomes found Kelsey just and it

1453
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: wasn't like some great route or some great concept where

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01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: the court the tight end beach guys. He was standing

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01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: there and Mahomes just kind of flung it at him

1456
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: underhand like sign on, like a pitch. It's like a touchdown,

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01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, and all of a sudden, the guy looks

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Speaker 1: like the best tight endeavor. It's the quarterback that can

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Speaker 1: make all those guys. And I continue to believe that. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break and when we return, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk with Andrew Brant, weekly columnists for MMQB, the host

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Speaker 1: of the Business of Sports podcast. That's what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about the business of sports, the business of the

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Speaker 1: NFL with Andrew Brant. He's coming up next. One bill

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Speaker 1: goals five. That's only the half of it. That means

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Speaker 1: we get a marching band walked through here right now

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Speaker 1: or j Loo and Shakira. Yeah right, I didn't. It's

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Speaker 1: a big deal. I guess I didn't realize. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff fifty years old. Yeah, j Loo,

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01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. It's one more. Is there controversy

1474
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: around every halftime show in the Super Bowl pretty much?

1475
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: I think there is. It's a problem with that that

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01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: they were too h provocative. Yeah, I guess outfits were two.

1477
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: I was barely watching, which kind of says more about

1478
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: even a year before, year before Adam Levine took his

1479
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 1: shirt off, remember and I heard that. And then the

1480
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: of course, way back in the day when Janet Jackson

1481
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: wardrobe and the left hand shark for Katie Perry. Yeah,

1482
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: one of the sharks couldn't answer or something. Yeah, and

1483
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, Prince maybe the all time great one. He

1484
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: poured Rain, which was kind of a plus because he

1485
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: had that song Purple Rain, And uh, you know, here's

1486
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: the problem, Steve and I've got the NFL release on this.

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01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: The halftime show featuring Jennifer Lopez and Shakira drew one

1488
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: hundred four point one million average viewers, one hundred million

1489
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: people watching. There's gonna be controversy, There's gonna be discussion, right, Yeah,

1490
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: they gotta talk about it. They gotta tweet about it.

1491
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: They gotta way in one hundred and four million people.

1492
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: And by the way, you were asking about non viewing people.

1493
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: So there were ninety nine point nine million viewers on

1494
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: Fox TV Sunday. It was one hundred two point one

1495
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: million tuned in including the non broadcast platforms. Oh so

1496
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: there's like what almost what three million, three million people

1497
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: doll that we're streaming it instead of watching it the average.

1498
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: Any it's the tenth most watch super Bowl ever, eleventh

1499
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: most watch US telecast ever, fourth most watch program in

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01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: Fox history. Yeah, a lot of people watch the game,

1501
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people tune in, and you saw the

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: Chiefs win. And are they on the verge of me

1503
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL's next dynasty? What do you think we got?

1504
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: We got to write that down though for next year.

1505
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: Is there going to be a controversy every year at

1506
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: the halftime show? We gotta keep track of that now, Okay,

1507
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: So starting at Super Bowl fifty four when we go

1508
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: to halftime, we'll find that. I don't know that'll be good.

1509
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 1: We'll find that out what September right something. Can you

1510
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 1: imagine the meetings that go on in New York They

1511
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have a post mortem on the Super Bowl.

1512
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: And at one point they'll get to, okay, let's talk

1513
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: about halftime. Probably a couple of days they'll talk about

1514
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: the halftime, and you know, it's a logistical nightmare. I'm

1515
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: sure were getting that together. Can you imagine the meetings

1516
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: that go on and the complaints you talk about here

1517
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: and they weigham h yeah, yeah, because they got one

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01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: hundred four million viewers. I mean, what do they bring

1519
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: the list of pros and comments, and the list of

1520
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: pros is this, and then the list of the lost

1521
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: of list of pros to stack, you know, maybe a

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01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: foot high, and then the list of consa's stack maybe

1523
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: a foot high, and then the snark is six feet high, right, yeah, right, yeah,

1524
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: the snark is off off the charts. Yeah, hey, we're

1525
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: talking about the chief skin. They become the NFL's next DYNA. See.

1526
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: Let's go to the tweet sheet bought to you by

1527
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers

1528
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Donald tweets this and they already

1529
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: have the guys. M Mount Mahomes has the league MVP

1530
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl in just two years. Also, I've been

1531
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: a Bills fan in my whole life. But I would

1532
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: sure love to go to Arrowhead to see a game

1533
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: you were talking about. Yeah, he's right, go to Arrowhead

1534
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you this, here's why Bills fans that

1535
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: appreciate it, you'll feel comfortable. Yeah, the Arrowhead tailgate atmosphere.

1536
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: Of all the places I have gone and covered in

1537
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: my broadcast career over the last two decades, Kansas City

1538
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: is most like Buffalo. The stadium is out away from

1539
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: the city, big parking lots of Kansas and it's big

1540
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: parking lots and tailgating is a thing and they take

1541
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: it seriously and it's yes, and it's a culture and

1542
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: it's part of the deal. It's you know, just like

1543
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: it is in Buffalo. It's not quite as wide open

1544
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. You know, we got the neighborhoods around

1545
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: because we're Orchard Park out there. It shares the same

1546
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,839
Speaker 1: piece of property as um Kaufman Stadium, the Royal Stadium,

1547
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: and they're both both stadiums are side by side. It's

1548
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: a very nice setup in Kansas City. They did it

1549
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: right and both stadiums are phenomenal and they've been there

1550
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: for quite a few years and they still both hold up.

1551
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: But they share a big parking lot and so it's

1552
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of space and you would feel comfortable.

1553
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: There's a Bills fan, um, and I don't know. I'm

1554
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: sure Chiefs fans are kind of like Bills fans. If

1555
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: if you're gonna party, they don't care. You can wear

1556
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 1: whatever jersey you want. But um, it is a nice atmosphere.

1557
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: The food is is paramount. You'd like it. I mean,

1558
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: I think and I was saying this, this is why

1559
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: we got to this. I think it's most they're most

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01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: similar of the two franchise I can think of. The

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01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: Bills fans and Tailgate pregame are most similar to Kansas

1562
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: City Arrowhead. The aroma of Arrowhead stadiums parking lot a

1563
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: little different. It beats Buffalo. Yeah, barbecue smell everything. It's unbelievable.

1564
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: They're probably thousands of people barbecue in at once and

1565
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: it's you know, here people are cooking different stuff and

1566
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: it smells great. Yeah, the menu is much more far

1567
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: reaching here in Buffalo, but the smell is is hard

1568
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: to beat in Kansas City. So amazing, ad is, what

1569
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: do you think can the Chiefs become the next NFL dynasty.

1570
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: Evan tweets this and I voted, yes, have you seen

1571
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: him play? I have seen them play. I've seen him

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01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: play in the AFC Championship game and you were going

1573
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and win it this year. Yes,

1574
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: I have seen them play. Think about that Monday night

1575
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 1: football game in Los Angeles against the Rams when it

1576
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: was fifty to fifty or fifty five fifty one or

1577
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: something and both those teams went out and lit it up.

1578
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: That you know, that was heroin for football wall. I mean,

1579
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable and that's what we thought we were

1580
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: gonna get. Maybe if if the Chiefs would not have

1581
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: gotten beat in the AFC Championship game last year, was

1582
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: going to be a rematch of that Monday night game.

1583
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: So weet, and you know, everybody was just salivating at

1584
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: the prospect of that. But that was that was really

1585
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: cool and that game. So that, yeah, we've seen the

1586
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs play, and the question is can they continue to

1587
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: do that? Can the Chiefs become the next dynasty in

1588
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: the NFL? Can there be another dynasty in the NFL

1589
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 1: with the salary camp and everything else that goes along.

1590
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: Good guy to ask is our next guests, he is

1591
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: The Colonists, the weekly Colonists for the MMQB hosted the

1592
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: Business of Sports podcast, director of the Morad Center for

1593
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: Sports Law at Villanova University in Philadelphia. Happy to have

1594
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: our friend Andrew Brant on the line with us. Andrew,

1595
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with us. We really appreciate it.

1596
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker up prayer in Buffalo. Not only

1597
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, can the Chiefs be the next dynasty?

1598
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: And can you have another dynasty in the NFL? Like

1599
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: maybe New England's what do you think? Yeah, good to

1600
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: be with you guys. I mean, the dynasty is kind

1601
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: of a hard word to describe. I think you can

1602
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: always have a team that has a window. Whatever the

1603
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: window that is a number of years. Whether they actually

1604
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: win championships every year is probably going to be tough,

1605
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: but at least they'll be contending. You know, That's what

1606
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: every team wants. They just want an ability to be

1607
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: in the tournament and go far in the tournament every year.

1608
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: And of course the key item is the quarterback, and

1609
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: if you have that, you're in the discussion. You know,

1610
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: we used to say in Green Bay, you know, Ret

1611
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,600
Speaker 1: Far we had eight wins so what can we do

1612
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: beyond that? You know? So I think that's where some

1613
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: of these teams are. Yeah, and it comes down to

1614
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 1: their ability to kind of hang in there. We thought,

1615
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: just for our purposes of our discussion, we're thinking maybe

1616
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: a five year window. If you can get in, like

1617
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: last year, the Chiefs are in the AFC Championship game,

1618
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: that kind of counts in that window. This year they

1619
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: win the super Bowl, and in the next three years

1620
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: that they can stay at the top of the conference

1621
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: and be deep in the playoffs, get to another super

1622
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: Bowl or two even if they win or don't win it.

1623
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: You kind of have to feel like that would be

1624
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: kind of the the NFL's version of a dynasty, I think. So,

1625
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's what you want. I just

1626
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: think about, you know, our first year where we had

1627
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, we had made the switch from bread. It

1628
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: was a message more and we didn't have a great record.

1629
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: I think we've may have been like six and ten even,

1630
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: but we all kind of looked at each other and said,

1631
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: we're good, you know, because we got the guy. When

1632
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: you have the guy as Buffalo does, if Kansas City does,

1633
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: as many teams do you know, that's half the battle.

1634
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: You're there, Like I said, eight games, you're right there.

1635
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: And if you got the guy that everyone's invested in,

1636
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: he's all in. The Only thing that can derail you

1637
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 1: is injury because you don't really see a downturn and

1638
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 1: performance coming ahead. So you know, we do talk about

1639
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: what an ultimate team sport this is, but there's only

1640
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: one tradition has the ball every play. Yeah, with Andrew

1641
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: Brant talking about the business of sport. The guy in

1642
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City, of course, is Patrick Mahomes, and you had

1643
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: a really thought provoking tweet out there. Got me. It's

1644
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: got us both thinking about it. You suggest that Patrick

1645
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: Mahomes might wait Mike want to wait another year to

1646
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 1: renegotiate his contract. What are you think in there, Andrew? Yeah,

1647
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: I've been asked a lot about as its contract, and

1648
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: everyone thinks it's gonna be so crazy and two hundred

1649
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: million and forty million a year or whatever it is,

1650
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 1: And it might be. It might be, But this is

1651
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: where basketball and baseball players know so much more than

1652
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: football players. And I understand the reasons injury and all that,

1653
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: but people wait to get closer to free agency and

1654
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: other sports because ultimately that's what gives That's what gives

1655
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,879
Speaker 1: you leverage. If you're two years out, like Patrick Mahomes,

1656
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: Sure the Chiefs can offer you a lot of money

1657
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: and you'll be fine, and that'll be a great deal.

1658
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: But it's really the Chiefs that have control of the

1659
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: contract right now because you know what happens if they

1660
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 1: don't do it. He's back, and what happens if they

1661
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: don't do it next year he's back, and what they

1662
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: don't do it the year after he's got a franchise said,

1663
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: so the numbers will be he'll be shiny if this

1664
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 1: deal gets done this year, but they won't be anywhere

1665
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 1: near as Shanee is next year or the year after. Yeah,

1666
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: and it doesn't look like he's going anywhere. I mean,

1667
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 1: the guy just he's got thirty six games under his

1668
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: belt and he just won the Super Bowl MVP on

1669
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: maybe his worst game as a pro. He's pretty good.

1670
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: And he also did it in the year where he

1671
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: dislocated his kneecap. I mean, the guy bounced back pretty well.

1672
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: And I think the lessons you learn from that is

1673
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 1: probably self preservation. He'll probably be able to stay healthier

1674
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: because it'll be on his mind a little better, and

1675
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: it also gives the team a window to keep or

1676
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: put more pieces around him. So I kind of with you.

1677
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: His leverage is really the only his ability to say

1678
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: no thank you to this contract. Yeah, I think it is.

1679
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 1: And I said this about Prescott a year ago and

1680
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: he did. Wait. So now Prescott is technically a free agent,

1681
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: but we all know he's not because of this weapon

1682
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: that NFL management has called the franchise tag. But Prescott's

1683
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: negotiating power and it is much greater now than it

1684
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 1: was in the summer when he was going into a

1685
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: year making six hundred thousand dollars. That's what I try

1686
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: to teach people that, you know, the real leverage is

1687
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 1: free agency. I know NFL players don't get there except

1688
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins and a few others, But that's the

1689
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: real leverage because then the team can really lose you.

1690
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: It's not until a team can lose do you have leverage? Hey,

1691
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: one thing about leverage gender, and you've written there at

1692
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: least tweeted about this too. You've said that if you're

1693
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: an elite talent in the NFL, you do have leverage,

1694
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: which may be lost on many people. What are you

1695
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: thinking there about leverage and maybe how the top tier

1696
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: players in the league have that kind of leverage. Well,

1697
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: we saw it this year and last year with Aaron Donald,

1698
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: where you can disobey and disobey meanings, not showing up

1699
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: really and still get rewarded. And that happened an Tonio Brown,

1700
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,560
Speaker 1: and that happened to Jdavian Clowney, and that happened to

1701
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramseys, and that happened to Aaron Donald, it happened

1702
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:44,799
Speaker 1: to Khalil Mack. So there are a handful of players

1703
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: that have exerted their leverage, maybe more so this year

1704
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: than ever. So there's something. But as I said, and

1705
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: I referenced Melvin Gordon, if you're going to do that,

1706
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: you better be special, really better be specialist. You can't

1707
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: just be very good. Yeah, I'm sorry. I was going

1708
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 1: to ask you too about being very good and special

1709
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: and how these guys are disobedient, they don't show up.

1710
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 1: That brings us right smack to this collective bargaining agreement

1711
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: and what they're able to do and what teams are

1712
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: able to do in response, How do you feel or

1713
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 1: what would your advice be to these elite players with

1714
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: the CBA looming out there. Maybe it'll get signed in

1715
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: the next few months before this season, maybe it won't.

1716
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: But how will the issues that may or may not

1717
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: change dramatically in the CBA this year affect those guys. Yeah,

1718
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out. You know, when you're negotiating a

1719
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: contract now there is some uncertainty. But I think that

1720
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: creates more incentive for the owners than the players. Actually,

1721
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: So the owners want to get a deal done with

1722
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 1: the union because of TV contracts and all that. The

1723
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: teams want to get deals done with their star because

1724
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: they don't know what the new CV is going to be.

1725
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: So while I'm at the same point, I think I'm

1726
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: Mahomes or something like that, really should wait because when

1727
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: you wait, it's only going to get better. The deal

1728
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: is not going to go backwards the TBA, So I

1729
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: think that's really what they need to do. But if

1730
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm a team the Chiefs, I'm going to throw so

1731
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: much money in that early part of that contract. You

1732
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 1: know where Pat Mahomes could potentially make sixty million in

1733
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty instead of whatever four million that he just

1734
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 1: can't turn it down. And that's where we are in

1735
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: football negotiations now because teams know that they have this

1736
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 1: and they know there's injury risk in football unlike other sports.

1737
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 1: On the topic of a new CBA, Andrew I was,

1738
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: I guess chastised by Farmer. Now. He's former Buffalo Bill

1739
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: linebacker Lorenzo Alexander. He's a member of the nfl A

1740
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: Executive Committee. And I asked him on this show about

1741
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 1: report is it's gone on for six months where there's

1742
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: always reports about a new dealers in it they're close

1743
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: to a new CBA, and the Renzo said, look, that's

1744
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: coming from the owners. They want they want us to

1745
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: cave and they want that out there that we're close

1746
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: to a new CBA. Anyway, I got the sense that

1747
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: maybe the players don't feel like they're that close. There's

1748
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 1: a kind of a big issue with the seventeen game schedule, right,

1749
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: that the players might be dragging their feet on at

1750
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, they might be. I mean we'll find out.

1751
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: You know, supposedly there's gonna be new new meetings and

1752
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: voting on the deal. I've said this before on your show.

1753
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: I just don't see how this TBA gets done without

1754
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 1: expanded schedule, because that's something of value to the owners

1755
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: and the owners, you know, what else do the players

1756
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: have that's really a value to give right now? The

1757
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: owners kind of have it their way in so many

1758
01:26:56,040 --> 01:27:01,919
Speaker 1: different ways. We'll see. I mean, there's there's a election

1759
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: going on, and maybe it's Richard Sherman, maybe it's Russell o'cum.

1760
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: There's luck going on right now. Yeah, and that's really

1761
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 1: it's a big question. I mean, there's a lot of

1762
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: stuff going on. There's as it's gotten further and further

1763
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: into the president and goes into the future, there's more

1764
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: and more layers to what the players can get back.

1765
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: There's certainly stuff about the pre ninety three players increases

1766
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: to individual player minimum salaries, and the NFL has it.

1767
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: The NFL proposal is something about a proposed liability waiver.

1768
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: We heard so much about in the Colin Kaepernick workout.

1769
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 1: What is a proposed liability waiver for the owners? What

1770
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 1: are they talking about? I'm not sure. I mean, I

1771
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: just think that we're in a much more different situation

1772
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 1: medically than we've ever been, with concussions, with CTE, with

1773
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of HIPPA issues, where I think the owners

1774
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: are you know, the owners are facing these lawsuits like

1775
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:02,480
Speaker 1: the concussion lawsuits, trying to get coverage from their insurers,

1776
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: and their insurers are balking, so they don't want to

1777
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: pay it out of pocket, so they're trying to figure

1778
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: out how they can get the players to buy in

1779
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: on some liability issues for future. Hell, these are kind

1780
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: of under the radar issues. Everyone talks about seventeen games

1781
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: and money, but it's really the insurers and the liability

1782
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 1: medical liability issues that really populate a lot of the discussion.

1783
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: I want more for you, Andrew, and it's a non

1784
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: CBA question. The Jaguars announced that they're playing two games

1785
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: back to back weeks at Wembley Stadium. Where's this going? There?

1786
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: Are the Jacksonville Jaguars going to be shared between Wembley

1787
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 1: Stadium in London and Jacksonville? Do you think in the

1788
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: not too distant future. Yeah, I don't know about four

1789
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 1: and four, but an hour up to two and six,

1790
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: two and jack two in London, six in Jacksonville. That's

1791
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 1: the quarter of the schedule. That's pretty big. I mean,

1792
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: there's no secret with them. They were the first him

1793
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: to pounce on London and they've been going back every

1794
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 1: year and now they're doubling it up. So I don't know,

1795
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: maybe we get to five years from now, they've got

1796
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: four games there, and then we get to ten games

1797
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: from ten years from now, they got the whole schedule.

1798
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: So it's certainly a trend. I know Jacksonville fans get upset,

1799
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: but they're sure looking that way that if there's a

1800
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 1: team in London and in maybe a decade away, it's

1801
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: going to be them. Yeah, certainly. And one last thing

1802
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: for me, and it goes to I don't know, maybe

1803
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 1: about this super Bowl or whatever, what I want to

1804
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: ask you about is and going forward? Do you see

1805
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: this affecting so much like that? I've got partial of

1806
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 1: this because I've lost four Super Bowls? How does this

1807
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 1: loss affect the forty nine ers going forward? Does it?

1808
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: Does it change their philosophy? I mean you've run a team.

1809
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: How deep does this cut with John Lynch? And do

1810
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: they question what they've done to get here? Do they

1811
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: question their philo going forward? What do they do? I

1812
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: don't know if it's any of that. I mean, they

1813
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: lost a close game to the team with Pat Mahomes,

1814
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: So I just think, you know, I think we can

1815
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: all say they were the best team in the NFC,

1816
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: and those changes are going to probably be pretty subtle.

1817
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: I would think, I don't know how much they change

1818
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: that roster. It's young, it's talented. They're fine, They're fine.

1819
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to be the second guessing about

1820
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: some of the calls in Shanahan. But I think I

1821
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: think that team's got a bright future. Andrew, thanks for this.

1822
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 1: Good to talk with you. We really appreciate it. Pleasure.

1823
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: Andrew Branch weekly countess for the MMQB, host of the

1824
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: Business of Sports podcast, director of the more Ed Center

1825
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: for Sports at Villanova University. Steve and I coming back

1826
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 1: with more One Bill Slide presented by Kalida Health from

1827
01:30:53,000 --> 01:31:10,799
Speaker 1: the Senate to studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

1828
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: back to one Live, John Murphy with Steve Tasker coming

1829
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: to you from the studio. There's a lot going on

1830
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: between segments that back in the control room they got

1831
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: like we have four lively conversations going on at once

1832
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: at once. Some two are political and two are about

1833
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: the ones about the last segment and the ones about

1834
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 1: the next segment. Right, it's hard, Yeah, it was a

1835
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: lively discussion about hard to keep track of all the

1836
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: noise in there. Yeah, who's saying what? Who is somebody

1837
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: addressing me? What? Yeah? And it's a pretty smart room

1838
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 1: when you get in there. And then when you and

1839
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: I show up and you and I were trying to

1840
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: we dumb it down a little bit and it gets

1841
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,600
Speaker 1: school muddled. Hey. One more tweet we should mention this is.

1842
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: This is on Greg Olsen, who reportedly is coming to

1843
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: the Bills to visit after being released by the Carolina Panthers.

1844
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 1: Brad tweets this, and of course Greg Oldson is a

1845
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: great fit for the Bills. He's a leader on and

1846
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: off the field, another weapon for Josh, and I think

1847
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: more important, a guy Dawson Knox and Tommy Sweeney can

1848
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: look up to and learn from. That's from Brad. Yeah,

1849
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 1: all that's good and I'm not anti Greg Olson. He

1850
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:16,799
Speaker 1: is thirty four years old. He caught fifty two passes

1851
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: last year, which is amazing. But he's thirty four years old,

1852
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: so he is advanced age in the NFL. He's been

1853
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: injured considerably in the last couple of years, maybe not

1854
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: so much as past year, but before that, how much

1855
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 1: does he have left in the tank? That would be

1856
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 1: the question. I think the Bills would want to get

1857
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 1: if he does, in fact visit here, I'm sure that's

1858
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: what they're gonna ask him and maybe poke him and

1859
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 1: proud him. How much longer do you want to go?

1860
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 1: But does he have leadership ability? Absolutely he does. Does

1861
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:47,480
Speaker 1: he have familiarity with Sean McDermott and Brandon Mean, absolutely

1862
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: he does. But what can he bring to this team?

1863
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: You don't want to pay him for what he's done.

1864
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 1: You want to pay him for what he might do

1865
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 1: this year. You know fills image you see at the

1866
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 1: bottom of the screen there he's visited the Bills. He's

1867
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: supposed to go to the Seahawks, supposed to go to

1868
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: the red Skins. Of course, Ron Rivera was his coach

1869
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: last year, So Ron river is going to look at

1870
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: him in windows shop and we'll be able to speak

1871
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 1: to him pretty pretty concisely. But I don't think it

1872
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: ever gets to the point where you forget, and I

1873
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 1: think for most people they forget. It comes down to

1874
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen. What's he want to do? Yeah, and that

1875
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: affects how the teams feel about him. He might want

1876
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: to go to Fox TV, right, he's looking at broadcasting.

1877
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 1: He spent last Sunday as part of the pregame show

1878
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: on the NFL on Fox. Maybe that's what his future is. Yeah,

1879
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: he's probably got his representation asking, you know, throwing it

1880
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: out there, what about it? You know that. But if

1881
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 1: he's got another year of playing football for seven figures,

1882
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: he's not going to go to the booth, you know,

1883
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: if he wants if he doesn't want to, And it'll

1884
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: come down to what does he want to go to

1885
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: another team, move his family, you know, and do all

1886
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 1: of that stuff and continue to train hard and get

1887
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: ready to play. That's what I've said it time and again.

1888
01:33:57,920 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: That's what happened to me, is what happens to a

1889
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 1: number of guys when they get to a certain age,

1890
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 1: you just get tired of training. You get tired of it.

1891
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: You can't train as hard as you did when you

1892
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: were young, before you had all the injuries and then

1893
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: bumps and bruises of a long NFL career. You have

1894
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: to train around your hurts and your aches, and it

1895
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: becomes really tedious, it becomes really discouraging, it becomes less rewarding,

1896
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: and a lot of guys that's really the reason a

1897
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: lot of guys get disenchanted. Ready to walk away, no

1898
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: matter what age they are, is because of their inability

1899
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: to prepare to play well. I think our buddy Lorenzo

1900
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 1: Alexander basically verbalize that, right. Yeah, he said it's not

1901
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 1: He loves the games, loves playing, loves getting ready to

1902
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: play games, but it's the off seasons that really wear

1903
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: you out and the preparation that goes into it. Yeah,

1904
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: we'll see. Greg Olsen has been in the league for

1905
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: a while and he's thirty four years old, and reportedly

1906
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: he's going to visit the Bills, among other teams as

1907
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,719
Speaker 1: he determines whether he wants to keep playing. And don't forget,

1908
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 1: it's just one name on a whole list, a long

1909
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: list of guys that are going to be available for

1910
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and they're gonna shop all of them there.

1911
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 1: They'll know, they'll have a file on every single guy.

1912
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: Greg Olson's just kind of the first one that's on

1913
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 1: our radar. First round pick in two thousand and seven

1914
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: from the Chicago Bears. I didn't know he's a first rounder.

1915
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 1: He's pretty good player. From Purdue, all right. We got

1916
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 1: a University of Miami, not Purdue. We got a break

1917
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: care when we come back, we'll talk with Ross Tucker

1918
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 1: from Princeton. We'll talk with him about the Super Bowl,

1919
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 1: about the Bills, about the Chiefs, about a lot of

1920
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: these issues we met discussing Ross Tucker. When we return,

1921
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: it's One Bill's Live presented by Klatta Health Live from

1922
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio Balo. Bill's

1923
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 1: Radio Network stories date from One Bill's Drive. Greg Goldson

1924
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 1: the free agent and he he's going to visit the

1925
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. The Carolina Panthers released the venter in tight

1926
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,719
Speaker 1: end yesterday after reaching agreement with them to mutually part ways.

1927
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Olson thirty four years old. He had one year left

1928
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: on his deal that pay him eleven point six million dollars,

1929
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: but he is now a free agent. He has scheduled

1930
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: to visit the Bills. That has reported this week. They'll

1931
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 1: also make visits to Seattle and Washington, both the Bills

1932
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: and the Watchington Redskins, coached by former Panthers Sean McDermott

1933
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: here and Ron Rivera in DC Super Bowl put a

1934
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 1: halt to a four year decline in viewership. Ninety nine

1935
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: point nine million people watching the Chief's rallity to defeat

1936
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ERDs. It's been solely eroding

1937
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 1: viewership since its peak in two and fifteen. A lot

1938
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: of Falcons will not pursue negotiations with veteran defenseimen Vic Beasley,

1939
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: former NFL sack champion, will become a free agent. Ron

1940
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 1: rivera coach of the Redskins, optimistic about trend Williams. He

1941
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 1: says he's still our guy. Williams did not play a

1942
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: single down for the Redskins last year, holding out most

1943
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 1: of the year before rejoining the team, revealing he had

1944
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 1: a cancerous growth that he said had gone undiagnosed by

1945
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: the team. Jacksonville Jaguars say they'll play two of their

1946
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: home games back to back at Wembley Stadium this year,

1947
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: the first team in NFL history to play two home

1948
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 1: games out side of the United States in the same

1949
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 1: regular season. Hall of Fame safety Willie wood At, a

1950
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 1: key interception in Super Bowl One that helped the Green

1951
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: Bay Packers to their route over Kansas City, died yesterday

1952
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: in Watchington. He was eighty three years old. And the

1953
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers at home tonight. They host Colorado at Keybank Center.

1954
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: Seven o'clock face up Garter Hutton that started both of

1955
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 1: the sabers last two games. He stopped forty nine to

1956
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,799
Speaker 1: fifty two shots in those two games. Since the beginning

1957
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: of January, the Sabers have gone eight for twenty eight

1958
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: on the power play, converting twenty eight point six percent

1959
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: of the time, at the fourth best right in the

1960
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: league in twenty twenty. Going into play yesterday, Sabers and

1961
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: Colorado tonight, it's a seven o'clock face up at Keybank Center.

1962
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy Steve Tasker,

1963
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 1: joined on the line by a former Buffalo Bill. He

1964
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 1: spent six seasons in the NFL two thousand and three

1965
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: and two thousand and four in the NFL. He is

1966
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Speaker 1: a Radio dot Com Sports NFL Insider Insider Calls brought

1967
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1968
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Speaker 1: dot com Slash Hire. You can catch ross every weekday

1969
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,560
Speaker 1: on Home and Home as new shown out now on

1970
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Speaker 1: Radio dot Com, Forward slash Home or search Home on

1971
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 1: the radio dot Com app RUSS. Good afternoon, Good to

1972
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 1: have you with us here today. Absolutely Murph Steve always

1973
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 1: good to talk with you. Good to see you today. Yeah,

1974
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 1: first time I think I got to see you guys

1975
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: like this. I love it. You may think differently. I

1976
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,560
Speaker 1: love I folly on Twitter and I got one of

1977
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: I kind of laugh. You had a couple of them.

1978
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: One is the fact that the Andy Reid can't win

1979
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 1: the big One, and those people who said that made

1980
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: the transition to Kyle Shanahan blowing it. They did that

1981
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: really seamlessly. But there was also another tweet as well

1982
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: said it's tough to be the super Bowl MVP in

1983
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 1: your worst game as a pro. Patrick Mahomes did it.

1984
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 1: Where do you see this Chief's team at as? I mean,

1985
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes did not have the kind of year he

1986
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 1: did last year statistically, but the team got further. Yeah, well,

1987
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,679
Speaker 1: I think he was a better player. I just think

1988
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 1: statistically his twenty eighteen season was just such an outlier.

1989
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 1: You talked to all the fantasy dudes. They were the

1990
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 1: first ones to know he wouldn't be able to do

1991
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 1: that again. Regression to the mean there regression same with

1992
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 1: the Bears and all those turnovers. So you knew that

1993
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: that was going to be the case for Mahomes. He's

1994
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:20,600
Speaker 1: obviously a ridiculous player to play that well when it

1995
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 1: was his worst game ever and still be the MVP.

1996
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 1: Extremely impressive. I didn't think he played very well the

1997
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: first fifty fifty two minutes of the game, but the

1998
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 1: last eight minutes when he had to he was perfect.

1999
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 1: It was almost the exact opposite of Jimmy g who

2000
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,600
Speaker 1: was pretty good until the end when he had to

2001
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,560
Speaker 1: be It was Mahomes a legitimate Super Bowl MVP in

2002
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 1: your opinion, Ross, Yeah, I thought. I thought he deserved it,

2003
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not a guy that thinks it should only

2004
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 1: be the quarterback. I know Damian Williams did a bunch

2005
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 1: of really good things for them, but you know, I

2006
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: hear this. You know, one hundred yards for Damian Williams

2007
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: total yards, two touchdowns. Well, Patrick Mahomes over three hundred

2008
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 1: total yards. He had one rushing touchdown, two passing touchdowns,

2009
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: and he made the play of the game on the

2010
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 1: forty four yard pass at Tyree Hill. He made several

2011
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: other really clutch throws. I thought Mahomes was the most

2012
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 1: valuable player for the Chiefs. Almost feels like you now.

2013
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: In regular season, Lamar Jackson got the MVP, but Michael

2014
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: Thomas got the Offensive Player of the Year. Almost feels

2015
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: like for this game Mahomes was MVP. Damian Williams would

2016
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 1: have gotten the Offensive Player of the game if you

2017
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: if you will, if that were an award. Yeah, and

2018
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 1: it really the game of the play of the game

2019
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: was the third and fifteen when the Chiefs had to

2020
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: have it. The Chips were down third and fifteen and

2021
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 1: they snap off a forty four and Tyreek Hill gets

2022
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: wide open. That's the one play where it looked like

2023
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 1: that San Francisco defense just wasn't ready for it. Yeah,

2024
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: it looked to me, Steve, like you know, they were

2025
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 1: in three DAP, which is what, as you know, the

2026
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,839
Speaker 1: Niners like to do. Sala comes from that Seattle family

2027
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,719
Speaker 1: of the three deep and the young corner to that side,

2028
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 1: and Manuel Moseley, he kind of bit on the inside

2029
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 1: post route, vacated his deep third of the field, and

2030
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: you could see right after the play he knew right

2031
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 1: away it was his fault. He pointed to himself right away.

2032
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 1: Even even the video you guys are showing right now,

2033
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 1: you can see he'd been on walkings underneath vacated the

2034
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 1: deep third. It was a great play call and play

2035
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 1: designed by Andy Reid. They knew exactly what they thought

2036
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Mosley would do. He did it critical mental error. But

2037
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't Mosley's fault or Salad fault. It's all Kyle

2038
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 1: shan Han's fault. It's all Kyle shan hands fault. That

2039
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: Mosley jumped that route right there. Yeah, it's just funny.

2040
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: It's a it's a really bad virtue that we have

2041
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 1: in society which seems to increase by the year, which

2042
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 1: is the need to place blame and to be able

2043
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 1: to point the finger at one person and say you,

2044
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: you are the one that screwed up. Yeah, I want

2045
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: to get more. And you tweeted about that, as Steve

2046
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:15,799
Speaker 1: pointed out, and look, I'm not telling you Kyle Shanahan

2047
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 1: was perfect. He may have been a bit too conservative,

2048
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 1: but he didn't blow the game for the Niners the

2049
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: other day at all. He was he was pretty solid.

2050
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I wrote about that Murph in my

2051
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 1: column today for The Athletic that I do think he

2052
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 1: deserves criticism, but I don't think you can say in

2053
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: the first half he was too conservative. At the end

2054
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 1: of the game, he was too aggressive and should have

2055
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 1: ran it more. I mean, pick a lane, make up

2056
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 1: your mind, right, that is just cherry picking in hindsight

2057
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 1: after you have access to the results, which really isn't

2058
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 1: analysis at all, you know what I mean. Like, I

2059
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: had no problem with him not using the time out

2060
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half, Chiefs are punting

2061
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 1: from midfield. They got this close to down at the

2062
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 1: one yard line. If he had called time out, he

2063
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: very likely would have been helping the Chiefs in that

2064
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 1: instance get another score before the end of the half.

2065
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 1: What I didn't like is that after it was a touchback,

2066
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 1: you got a minute, three timeouts, and you run the

2067
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 1: ball on first and second down from the twenty yard line,

2068
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 1: no sense of urgency. Didn't care for that. I did

2069
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 1: like the way that he snapped off the forty two

2070
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 1: yard reception to Kittle, even though it was the pass

2071
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 1: interference calling, and I thought, well, that more than makes

2072
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: up for whatever conservative criticism he's gonna get. He threw

2073
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 1: the ball deep. And here's the thing too, And I

2074
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 1: told Murph this earlier in the show. I'm with you.

2075
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I thought the mentality wasn't to conserve time and to

2076
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, make sure that you had plenty of time

2077
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: to get in the field. I think that the object

2078
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 1: was to score with double zeros on the clock so

2079
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs couldn't come back on the field. I

2080
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:01,640
Speaker 1: think that's more of what he was thinking about with

2081
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: the timeouts. Save all the timeouts and you can take

2082
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: those places as they come, rather than you know, going

2083
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 1: down and all of a sudden scoring a touchdown with

2084
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 1: thirty five or forty seconds left, and now here comes

2085
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes. I thought that was more logic than anything else. Well,

2086
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: I thought Steve on first or second down should have

2087
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 1: been when they threw the ball to the running back

2088
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, like they did on third down

2089
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 1: to Wilson. They got twenty five yards, they go down

2090
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,600
Speaker 1: to the forty five yard line. Now they're at midfield,

2091
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 1: but there's only fourteen seconds when they call that time out.

2092
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: I thought that place should have been called earlier, and

2093
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,640
Speaker 1: then they should have used their time out earlier. I

2094
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 1: thought they were overly conservative at that point, because once

2095
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 1: you get the ball out to twenty and there's less

2096
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Speaker 1: than a minute left, I think you can throw a

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01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 1: screen pass or something fairly conservative, but still a better

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01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 1: chance to get a big chunk play there. It is

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01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 1: funny though, to think about, you know, if Kittle doesn't

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01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:02,440
Speaker 1: push off like that. How we're talking about Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: throwing the best pass of the night right, because that

2102
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: was an unbelievable throw by Garoppolo. The Niners get points there.

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01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 1: We're not talking about conservative Kyle. You know. If Kittle

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01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 1: doesn't just go like that, so many narratives might have changed.

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Speaker 1: With Russ Tucker, host of the Home and Home podcast,

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Speaker 1: he is a Radio dot Com NFL insider watching the

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Speaker 1: game at home with my two adult sons, Russia. Your

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01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: name came up when us checked the Harvard guy scored

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01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 1: a touchdown. There was a discussion about IVY leaguers in

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01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 1: the NFL and your name was mentioned. Is there any

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01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 1: sort of kin chip with an IVY leader in a

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01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:38,679
Speaker 1: game like that? Do you feel it when he scores

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01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 1: a touchdown? A thousand percent? I think and Steve can

2114
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 1: probably speak to this with his son Luke, but especially Murph.

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01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: When I was playing, there weren't very many of us,

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01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I meant it was like

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01:45:55,360 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Jay Fiedler, Matt Burke. There were not very many IVY

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01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 1: League guys in the NFL. They've recruited so much better

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01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 1: now that there's actually over twenty IVY League guys in

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01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. But think about this. You know, if you's

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01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 1: check scores on that second time he got the ball

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01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 1: and got down to the one inch line, if us

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01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 1: Check had two touchdowns, he very possibly could have been

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01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 1: the MVP of the game if the Niners won. Let

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01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: me just tell you, if an IVY League fullback was

2126
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 1: the MVP of the Super Bowl canceled the Galaxy, hell

2127
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: would have officially frozen over. If an IVY League fullback,

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01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 1: I mean an IVY League guy number one, and then

2129
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 1: a fullback number two, you combine him IVY League fullback.

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01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you when you filled out those

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01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 1: applications to send him to Harvard and Princeton, nobody writes

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01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 1: on there, I want to be a fullback when I

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01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: grow up. Yeah, that's right, And I will admit we

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01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 1: were watching the game and my son it out. He

2135
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 1: played against Used Chuck all four years his years at Cornell,

2136
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: so he knew Used Chuck. I probably watched us Chuck

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01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: play a couple of times. So no question, you're right.

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01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 1: If he gets in on that second thing, he becomes

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01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: a force in that game. He kind of knew because

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01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 1: there's only a couple of teams in the league that

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01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: used fullbacks and used check is a really and the

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01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 1: other one being Baltimore where us check came from for

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01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. One thing I wanted to ask

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01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 1: you too about was Andy Reid. I mean, how fast

2145
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 1: is he's kind of becoming a national treasure. I know,

2146
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 1: he's kind of the flavor of the month now because

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01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 1: everybody kind of likes him because you know, everybody was

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01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:37,640
Speaker 1: pulling for him for the years in Philly and for

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01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: the way that he turned that franchise around. But he

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01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: has I didn't realize, and I knew I had some

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01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 1: good experiences with him. There's a ton of people who

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01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: he is affected in their in their coaching careers and

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01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 1: in their playing careers. And it really became evident how

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01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 1: big a force he has been over his years as

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01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 1: a head coach. Well, he is an absolute rarity in

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01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 1: the NFL, because I've never heard anybody's handing bad about

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01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 1: him personally, you know, And these are guys that he cut,

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01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 1: these are guys that he traded. You know, I got

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01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 1: cut four times, I got traded once. I'd be more

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01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 1: than happy to say something bad about all those jerks

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01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 1: that cut me. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean,

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01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 1: i'd be more than I'm kidding, But you guys know

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01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, it's just so rare for

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01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 1: people to still love a guy that fired him, and

2165
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 1: yet that's exactly where things stand with Andy Reid. It's

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01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 1: absolutely incredible. And I'll tell you why, because I think

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01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 1: people like that he's kind of heavy set, you know,

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01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: he kind of like your heavy uncle, if you will.

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01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: But I'll give you a personal example. One time when

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Speaker 1: he was in Philly, I was doing a training camp

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01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 1: show and I my father in law to training camp

2172
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,879
Speaker 1: and my father in law's an Eagles fan and introduced

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01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: him to Andy before we did the interview. Andy goes

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Speaker 1: into the locker room. Practice is just about to start,

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01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:15,839
Speaker 1: and he goes into the locker room, comes out, walks

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01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 1: up to my father in law with a hat, shirt

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01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 1: and shorts, all Eagles stuff, and my father in law

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01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 1: was wearing a Penn State hat because that's what you do.

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01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,800
Speaker 1: And he handed to my father in law said, hey, dad,

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01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 1: I got nothing wrong with Penn State, but if you're here,

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01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 1: you might as well have some Eagle stuff to wear.

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01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 1: So who do you think my father in law was

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01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:39,600
Speaker 1: rooting for Sunday Night, right the Chiefs. You know, he

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01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 1: Andy Reid just gets it. Yeah, great story. Hey, ro

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01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 1: with Ross Tucker a couple of minutes left. Ross, I

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01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna like our Twitter poll today, but

2187
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 1: I'll let you see it. Can the Chiefs become the

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01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 1: next dynasty in the NFL? And so far we've got

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01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 1: pretty good response to that question. It's fairly close. Some

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01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 1: people think they can, some people think they cannot. What

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01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 1: do you think. I you kind of told everybody to

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01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 1: tap the brakes a little bit with this dynasty talk

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01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: when you tweeted out that today. Huh well, I mean, listen, Murph,

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01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 1: they absolutely can, but let's not kid ourselves. It's really

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01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: really hard, really really hard to be a dynasty. You know,

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Speaker 1: Guys like Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees, Dan Marino their

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Speaker 1: combined Super Bowl appearances after their first one zero none,

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01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 1: they never went back again, even quite Frankly, Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: and the Seahawks, Brett Farve and the Packers, they went

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01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 1: to back to back. Everybody say, oh, it's a dynasty.

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Speaker 1: Neither one of them have been back since or went

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01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 1: back again, so you realize how difficult is you know,

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01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 1: so many things have to go right. I don't think

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01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs go to the super Bowl and win it.

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01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 1: If our guy Ryan Fitzpatrick in week seventeen for the

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01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 1: Dolphins doesn't go to Foxborough and wins that game, you know,

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01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: then the Chiefs would have had to play three playoff games,

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01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 1: including two on the road. Instead they just had two

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Speaker 1: at home. Big difference. And I was gonna ask you

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01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 1: as well, and what I got got away from me again.

2211
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 1: But what was I gonna ask? I can't remember. I

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01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:24,759
Speaker 1: had a written you brought out the Patriots. Tom Brady

2213
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,719
Speaker 1: made flash yeah with his commercial saying he's not going anywhere.

2214
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 1: Do you believe him? Do you think he is going anywhere? Ross?

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01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 1: It's funny. Um, in New England people are taking that meeting.

2216
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 1: He's staying with the Patriots. Everywhere else they're taking it meeting.

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01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 1: He's still gonna keep playing football. Um, I think he's

2218
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:48,759
Speaker 1: gonna play. He is one of the rare guys whose

2219
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 1: post career ambitions are heavily tied to his longevity, right,

2220
01:51:56,240 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean, unlike a lot of other people, where you

2221
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 1: can get into being an actor broadcasting or whatever right away.

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01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 1: The longer Brady plays, the better it is for his

2223
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 1: TB twelve and all this stuff he wants to do.

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01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 1: I personally think he either plays for the Patriots or

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01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Patriots for all the obvious reasons. Chargers because

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01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 1: they've got a really good roster. It's LA, and I

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01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: think people in LA would absolutely love Tom Brady. They'd

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01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,759
Speaker 1: sell a bunch of tickets and the whole tabat twelve

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01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:36,839
Speaker 1: nutrition thing. I mean, Southern California. That'd be like shooting

2230
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 1: fish in a barrel, I don't. I have a hard

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01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 1: time thinking, when push comes to shove that he would

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01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 1: suit make you put on a different uniform. I really

2233
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,640
Speaker 1: think that would be difficult for him. Twenty years with

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01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots, six Super Bowl championships, nine Super Bowls to

2235
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 1: go out, and despite what happens after football. I think

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01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: it's my take. I think a lot of what he's doing,

2237
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 1: both on Twitter and social media, even in his personal life,

2238
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 1: selling his house and that kind of thing, I think

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01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 1: it seems to me like he's posturing for one last

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01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:08,640
Speaker 1: swing at the can with the Patriots, but for a

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01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 1: big number. Yeah, I think that's probably his preferred destination.

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01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 1: Is to get a fair salary from the Patriots and

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01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:21,719
Speaker 1: for them to put better players around him for another

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01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 1: year or two. But I feel like that's in Bill

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01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 1: Belichick's hands, and I think Brady is tired of not

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01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 1: getting treated with the respect that I think he believes

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01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 1: he deserves. And if the Patriots are gonna mess around

2248
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 1: with him again, I think he's gonna tell him, all right, fine,

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01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm sick of this. I'm going somewhere else. One last

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Speaker 1: question for you, ross those Bills game balls on the

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01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 1: shelf behind you. There are those Buffalo Bills game balls. Yeah.

2252
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 1: I've got all my helmets up top, and then one, two, three, four,

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01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 1: five of the six game balls behind me are from

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01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 1: the Bills from either the two thousand and three or

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01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 1: two thousand four seasons. That's the one team I was

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01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 1: actually pretty good for him, So yeah, I keep those things.

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01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 1: They're awesome. You guys know, I love my time up there.

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01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,400
Speaker 1: We had a really good team. I've been told many

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01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 1: times that the two thousand and four Buffalo Bills are

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01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 1: statistically the best team ever to not make the playoffs,

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01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 1: which doesn't make me feel any better at all, not

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01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 1: even a little bit. We're gonna hang that banner up

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01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 1: inside the stadium. That's perfect. Last one, last one for me, Roster.

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01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 1: Real quick, we're talking about this, and I know we're

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01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 1: prisoners at the moments with how successful and how good

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01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs look. How what will they have to do? Say,

2267
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 1: like they were in the AFC Championship Game last year,

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01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 1: lost in overtime, they won the Super Bowl this year.

2269
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: And it's been my contention that maybe three more years

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01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 1: of this contention or being at the top of the conference,

2271
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: maybe getting back to one more Super Bowl. We're getting

2272
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 1: in the championship game one or once or twice more

2273
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: With one Super Bowl. I mean, that would to me

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01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 1: would be kind of a dynasty. Half a decade of

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01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 1: success and this day and age in the NFL, that's

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01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: a long time to stay successful despite what the Patriots

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01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:08,080
Speaker 1: have done. You think that's enough for the Chiefs. Yeah,

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01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 1: I think for it to really be a dynasty, you

2279
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 1: have to at least win two Super Bowls and at

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01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: least get to three within like a four or five

2281
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 1: year time frame. So yeah, I guess. I guess the

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01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 1: Bills of the nineties were a dynasty, Steve by by

2283
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 1: those by those qualifications, but yeah, I think. I think

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01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 1: get to two, they've already won one. I'm sorry, win two,

2285
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: get to three, I think the Chiefs would be able

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01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 1: to call it a dynasty. I doubt very much they'll

2287
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 1: be able to do that. It is so so hard

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01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 1: health reasons. Mahome is about to get forty million dollars

2289
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 1: a year. It's tough. Hey, Ross, Thanks, good to check

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01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 1: in with you. Thanks very much today. Absolutely see you guys.

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01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 1: Let's go Buffalo, all right, Thanks Ross Tucker Radio dot

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Speaker 1: search Home on the radio dot com. Uh app. Ross

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01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 1: played with the Bills for a couple of years, oh three,

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01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 1: oh four, played six seasons total in the NFL. It's

2299
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 1: got a nice self deprecating thing going on with his

2300
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 1: own NFL career, you know what I mean. Yeah, he

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01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 1: was a decent player. He was okay. I started. I

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Speaker 1: liked listening to him because he does have a great

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Speaker 1: take on things. In fact, I listened to him so

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Speaker 1: much I forgot my question I was gonna ask him,

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01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 1: and you were on the You and I were on

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01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: the same page as I was going towards towards Tom

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01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 1: Brady and the and the Patriots, and we were talking

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01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: about dynasties and how long it was gonna last, like,

2309
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 1: and I was listening to him talking. I completely lost

2310
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 1: that for a second. But he's mesmerizing very much so.

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01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was. And I told you too. He

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01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 1: was a chippy player in practice and stuff. He knew

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01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 1: he was a he was a Ivy League guy, so

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01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 1: he came to practice and he was, you know, he was.

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01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 1: He was facing off with everybody, you know, starting fights

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01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 1: and stuff, and guys were getting mad at him because

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01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 1: they get frustrated or he'd frustrate them purposely. That was

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01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 1: kind of his modus operendying. And he carved out a

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01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 1: nice little career that way. Sure did a nice career

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01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 1: in the media now as well. Thanks to Ross Tucker

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01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 1: for joining us. We got some more time coming up here.

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01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 1: We're going to talk more about our topic of the day.

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01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 1: Can the Chiefs become the next dynasty in the NFL?

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01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: Ross says, no, Maybe you feel differently. We'll check the

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01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 1: Twitter poll and take your phone calls on that topic

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01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:24,680
Speaker 1: plus NFL true and false when we return. It's one

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01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:27,920
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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker. We're definitely doing NFL true false today.

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01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 1: I just looked at him over it's yesterday. We didn't

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01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 1: do it yesterday, so they're yesterday's true false. I just

2332
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: what's the matter. You don't have it. I might have

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01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 1: thrown yesterday's out, kept got today's. Here's the thing. You're

2334
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 1: all ridiculous. So I am definitely looking forward to doing

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01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: definitely forward. I gotta I gotta go back and get it. Then,

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01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,919
Speaker 1: our question today, can the Chiefs become the next dynasty

2337
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL? What do you think? That's a Twitter

2338
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 1: poll today? Let's check that the Twitter poll has been

2339
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 1: fairly close all day. Can the Kansas City Chiefs, winners

2340
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl two days ago? Will they become

2341
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 1: the next Nina See in the NFL? It's close three

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01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 1: seventy votes. Fifty four percent of you say no, they

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01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 1: will not be the next Nina See. Forty six percent

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01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 1: of you think yes they will. Let's hear what you

2345
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 1: think eight h three five fifty toll free one eight

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01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Let us know

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01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 1: what you think. Zach and Rochester on the line to

2348
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 1: do just that. Hell Abo, Zach, go ahead and you're

2349
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 1: on the air. Hey, So that's how you doing, man? Great.

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01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they can be a dynasty, man, because

2351
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 1: the salary crap is going to kill that. They were

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01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 1: lucky to get this title with Mahomes on the rookie contract,

2353
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 1: and then you gotta sign Williams, you gotta sign Chelsea again.

2354
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to sign Um Watkins. Watkins talk about

2355
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 1: to take a year off, but this last year for

2356
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:05,480
Speaker 1: fourteen million wasn't guar a tee? Do you feel it's

2357
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 1: kind of disrespected and the way a whole thing with

2358
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 1: the Parry Cap teams could stick together back in the

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01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:13,120
Speaker 1: day because you didn't have it. But they raise it up.

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01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 1: But they're still not enough to keep their star players. Yeah,

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01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 1: it is. They gotta handle it, no question about it.

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01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 1: There's some teams, I mean, not everybody's got is winning

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01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 1: the super Bowl with a quarterback on his rookie deal.

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01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 1: Although the last couple have been won by a team

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01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 1: that was getting had a quarterback at undermarket value in

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01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. So I get what you're saying. But the

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01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 1: money's there, they're gonna be able to pay these guys,

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01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:40,680
Speaker 1: and guys are gonna win the Super Bowls. But I

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01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 1: your point's well taken. A lot of teams are making

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01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 1: hay while their guys on their rookie deals. Seattle Seahawks

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01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 1: did it. They haven't been able to get back there since,

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01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 1: but they've remained competitive. The Green Bay Packers are competitive,

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01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 1: but they haven't been back to the Super Bowl with

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01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. It's been a long time since Ben Roethlisberger

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01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 1: and the Steelers have been back there, although he won

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01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 1: two of them. The first one, which maybe the second

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02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 1: one too, he was on his rookie deal. So yeah,

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02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 1: there's a point to be made by it team. A

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02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:08,520
Speaker 1: team has yet to really put a sustained run together

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Speaker 1: multiple Super Bowls with a guy who's not on his

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02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 1: rookie deal. Thanks for calling. Let's go to Scott in Nashville. Hello, Scott,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hey, guys, I wanted to back

2383
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 1: up to the tight end. It's like the most crucial

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02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:22,840
Speaker 1: position to make Josh a better player. Quarterbacks from the

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02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 1: second to third year, if they're you know, going to

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02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:28,000
Speaker 1: become an lead quarterback or a top notch quarterback, will

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02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 1: make that jump, which I think he will with his play.

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02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 1: But when you look at guys who are like kind

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02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 1: at the end of their career, Brady had Gronk, and

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02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:37,560
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger had Hith Miller, and Breeze had Jimmy Graham and

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02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 1: Rivers head Gates and Matt Ryan had Tony Gonzalez and

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02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:43,520
Speaker 1: now as Austin Cooper, all these guys always have. What

2393
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:45,800
Speaker 1: it is is the ability to avoid the negative play.

2394
02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm in trouble, Oh my gosh, where's my giant tight end?

2395
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:51,960
Speaker 1: And now you see the young guys with Ertz, with

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02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 1: WinCE and Kelsey, abbeys with Mahomes and Kittle, with Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. All he did was start to his tight ends.

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02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 1: Even like marginal guys or you know, like Rudolph is

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02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 1: big for Cousins, or Witten was big for Romo, or

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02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:09,320
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle was big for Luck. All these guys have

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02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 1: that bailout between the hashes. Throw it to him a

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02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 1: giant tight end where are you and if one element

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Speaker 1: we're missing that is an absolute game changer, Scott, are

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02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 1: the Bills missing that isn't Dawson Knox had the potential

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02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 1: to be that guy. I think he does. What do

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Speaker 1: you think, Scott? Potentially? Yes, but Dawson Knox had three

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Speaker 1: hundred yards. Oh, he's got to step up and make

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Speaker 1: more plays. But I think, go ahead. I think he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a really good player. But we need

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02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:40,200
Speaker 1: to have that right now for Josh to take that

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Speaker 1: next step. We picked up more that seems like more

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Speaker 1: third and eighteen, third and twenties, and I can remember

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02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 1: maybe ever and unfortunate part was we had to We

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02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:52,680
Speaker 1: were in third and eighteens a lot, and that just

2415
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:55,960
Speaker 1: comes from taking sack. Nowhere to go with the football? Well,

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Speaker 1: one way I can go to the football is that

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02:01:57,600 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 1: giant freaking tight end that we don't have for I

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02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Scott, I kind of disagree with you

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02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:04,880
Speaker 1: because I think all of those plays that you just

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02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: mentioned in the quarterback jumps out of the pocket, he's

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Speaker 1: got he finds these outlets. That's the quarterback that has

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Speaker 1: nothing to do. I don't think the plays that we

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Speaker 1: missed are the plays that these other quarterbacks make is

2424
02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:17,840
Speaker 1: because of the guys around it. I think it's because

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02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:20,560
Speaker 1: of the guy. Pat Mahomes is proof of that. I

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02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:23,800
Speaker 1: think you've seen, Oh, hold on gold Ahead. There's some

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02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 1: of that. It depends on the tight end. Who was

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02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:29,480
Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez's quarterback before he went to Atlanta with Kansas City.

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02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:33,160
Speaker 1: But yes, he's going to the Hall of Fame. That's

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02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:35,800
Speaker 1: not his quarterback, makings good point of us. Well, he played,

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02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:40,800
Speaker 1: he played seventeen years and the guy's six seven and unguardable. Yeah,

2432
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:45,680
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle, Yeah, that's that's luck right, right. I mean,

2433
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:47,520
Speaker 1: so there's a little bit of both of those. I

2434
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 1: get it. But I still think and I've said this before,

2435
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 1: and I see you right, and I've always said this

2436
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 1: as well, and I don't want to talk out of

2437
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 1: both sides of my mouth. Certainly, good players make you better.

2438
02:02:57,040 --> 02:02:58,720
Speaker 1: And if you get a guy like Greg Olsen or

2439
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 1: somebody else or who whoever you could name in the

2440
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:04,240
Speaker 1: draft or free agency, certainly the team is going to

2441
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:07,320
Speaker 1: be better with better players. But I still think it

2442
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 1: comes down to the fact that the guy pulling the

2443
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:11,680
Speaker 1: trigger is the guy that makes the decisions, and as

2444
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 1: accurately and as good as and as cleanly as he

2445
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 1: gets rid of the football, as good at decisions as

2446
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:18,760
Speaker 1: he makes, and the plays that he makes, all those

2447
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 1: guys become three notches better. And you can go back

2448
02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:24,240
Speaker 1: and watch film if you want to. There are enough

2449
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:26,600
Speaker 1: plays left on the table and a lot of the

2450
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 1: certainly in a lot of the Bill's losses, that would

2451
02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:31,600
Speaker 1: have turned a lot of those into wins. Now every

2452
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:34,120
Speaker 1: team can say that, But I still think that's the

2453
02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:35,960
Speaker 1: margin of area where I'd like to see this team

2454
02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 1: get more efficient in as well or at first, depending

2455
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 1: no matter who they pick up in free agency or

2456
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:45,320
Speaker 1: the draft. I think the guys they have on the

2457
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:49,040
Speaker 1: team now are are really good and could get better

2458
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:52,760
Speaker 1: if if, But don't you think there's a big difference

2459
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:55,800
Speaker 1: between I'm in trouble, I'm on the run. Oh there's

2460
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:58,480
Speaker 1: there's my six foot seven drunk. I'm in trouble, I'm

2461
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:00,440
Speaker 1: on the run. Where the heck is my five ft

2462
02:04:00,520 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 1: seven Beasley is a big difference? Uh No, I don't

2463
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:05,840
Speaker 1: think that's a big difference. Yeah you, and I know

2464
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,440
Speaker 1: people are gonna go absolutely bonkers when I say that, Yeah,

2465
02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 1: six seven guy, you're gonna Listen, if you're a six

2466
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:15,200
Speaker 1: seven gronk when he's covered, say that again. He throws

2467
02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 1: it to me when he's covered, I can't. Yeah, you

2468
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:19,400
Speaker 1: know why he throws it to him when he's covered

2469
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 1: because he can throw it really accurately. I mean, listen,

2470
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 1: you can't tell him. Here's the thing. You can go

2471
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:27,120
Speaker 1: back and watch the film. Five nine guys are running

2472
02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 1: open late in plays for the Buffalo Bills, just like

2473
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:32,200
Speaker 1: six nine guys are running open for other teams. You

2474
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:34,200
Speaker 1: can if you can find him and throw him the football,

2475
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna catch it. And just because he's five nine

2476
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:39,400
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's impossible to fit the ball in there.

2477
02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 1: The windows are what they are. So I get what

2478
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:46,040
Speaker 1: you're saying and believe, and you know Tony Gonzales and

2479
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 1: Rob Grinkowski. Yes, the Buffalo Bills would be better if

2480
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:51,680
Speaker 1: they could find one of those guys. What I'm saying

2481
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 1: is they'd be way better if the guy they've got

2482
02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:59,520
Speaker 1: thrown it now would make better decisions with the ball

2483
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:01,400
Speaker 1: in his hand and just do it one And let's

2484
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:03,440
Speaker 1: face it, all of us, it only takes about three

2485
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:05,000
Speaker 1: plays a game with the way the Bills are playing

2486
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:08,360
Speaker 1: right now, and it goes a long way towards making

2487
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:10,960
Speaker 1: this team even tougher to beat than they were. But

2488
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. If you're going to talk

2489
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 1: about Gronkowski and Tony Gonzalez, Yeah, the team, every team

2490
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:17,360
Speaker 1: in the league would be better with them. But I'm

2491
02:05:17,400 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 1: saying right now, even with the guys they got before

2492
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:23,360
Speaker 1: the draft, from before free agency, they left a lot

2493
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 1: of things on the table that would have made a

2494
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:27,080
Speaker 1: big difference in their seasons. Scott, thanks for the call.

2495
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 1: Let's get to NFL True or False brought to you

2496
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:33,200
Speaker 1: by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and Cheese. This is ridiculous.

2497
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl proves that Patrick Mahomes has outgrown quarterback comparisons.

2498
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:42,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady has six Super Bowl rings, Montana never had.

2499
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 1: This is whoever the writer is, somebody for NFL dot Com.

2500
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:50,120
Speaker 1: He writes the Montana never had physical skills, that sick

2501
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 1: Brady has six Super Bowl rings, But Mahomes just did

2502
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 1: something that was very Brady like. At twenty four years old,

2503
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:00,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes became the second youngest quarterback everyone in a Super Bowl,

2504
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:04,000
Speaker 1: passing the Hall of Famer Patrick Mahomes. So we're saying

2505
02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 1: essentially the writer of this somebody for NFL dot kind

2506
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 1: of saying Mahomes cannot be compared to Brady or Montana

2507
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 1: or the great quarterbacks in the past. He's outgrown that

2508
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 1: big time false false false false. You gotta tap the

2509
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 1: brakes a little bit, Patrick, Mahomes just won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He was the NFL's Most Valuable Player a year ago.

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Speaker 1: He is great, He's very good. Is he the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback able to play? No, let's let's just wait. Let's

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Speaker 1: just wait a little bit more. I think they're talking.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're talking about saying he's better

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Speaker 1: than all those guys. I think he's outgrown in the

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02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:39,160
Speaker 1: fact that he's different. But Montana was different than Marino.

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02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 1: Montana was different than Brady. Brady's different than Ben Roethlisberger was.

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02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:47,480
Speaker 1: Mahomes is a unique guy, but he's also playing in

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02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:49,640
Speaker 1: an era that was completely different than any of those

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02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:53,280
Speaker 1: guys were talking about. Too. He's a little bit more

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02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson, he's a little bit more like Deshon Watson,

2522
02:06:56,360 --> 02:07:00,520
Speaker 1: the guy that beat the Bills in the playoffs. That

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02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 1: he's different from those guys you mentioned because it's a

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02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 1: different league. Now, and these guys are asked to do

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02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:09,160
Speaker 1: different things. He may not be the best quarterback ever

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02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:12,200
Speaker 1: to play, but he's certainly very different than all those guys,

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Speaker 1: and and those comparisons don't make any sense to me.

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02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 1: You got to compare him to the guys that are

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Speaker 1: playing today and right now. You know, he's a Super

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02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:23,640
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP and all that stuff, so he's pretty good.

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02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 1: And there may be guys out there you can make

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02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:27,360
Speaker 1: the argument he's the best guy in the league right now.

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02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:30,480
Speaker 1: Certainly it's a nice week to do that. But the

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02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:33,720
Speaker 1: best ever and the most successful ever, I'm with humor

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02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:37,160
Speaker 1: if I pumped the brakes, okay, number two and the

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Speaker 1: NFL did this. Nfl dot Com voted for the one

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02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 1: hundred greatest moments in NFL history. They settled down the

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02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:47,880
Speaker 1: Immaculate Reception, the Steeler's Immaculate Reception as the NFL's greatest moment.

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02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say false to that. The greatest moment, and

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02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:52,720
Speaker 1: I said that even before the thing was settled, was

2541
02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:55,680
Speaker 1: the Jets win in Super Bowl three over the Baltimore Colts.

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02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:57,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't the greatest game ever played. It wasn't the

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02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:00,720
Speaker 1: most exciting game ever played. It was the greatest moment

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02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:03,840
Speaker 1: in NFL history in the hundred years of the NFL.

2545
02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it's well, I don't know. This game is about

2546
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:10,080
Speaker 1: the same era, right, this game where the Steelers one

2547
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:12,560
Speaker 1: on the immaculate Reception, But that's not the greatest moment.

2548
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:15,760
Speaker 1: It's a great moment. It was a flukey play, to

2549
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:18,520
Speaker 1: be sure, but Joe name has guarantee of a victory

2550
02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 1: and the Jets win over the Colts was the NFL's

2551
02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:23,480
Speaker 1: greatest moment. I don't think there can be much dispute

2552
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:26,560
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's a

2553
02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 1: hundred years and I don't know all the moments that

2554
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:31,520
Speaker 1: are possible. You can say Donamachi's scorn on a little

2555
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:35,200
Speaker 1: off tackle play on the first live championship game broadcast

2556
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 1: to the NFL might have been as big a moment

2557
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:41,280
Speaker 1: as the Joe Namath But certainly now the immaculate Reception

2558
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:45,760
Speaker 1: is famous. Absolutely, It's a dynamite play, one that everybody

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02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:48,280
Speaker 1: knows about. It's probably the as famous a moment as

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02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:50,840
Speaker 1: there is in the National Football League and led the

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02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 1: Steelers to first to their four straight Super Bowls, And

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Speaker 1: I get all the context that goes with it. I

2563
02:08:57,400 --> 02:09:01,040
Speaker 1: don't know. Wait, okay, I mean I don't know. There's

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02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:03,800
Speaker 1: a hundred years of moments. I got a lot of

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02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:06,240
Speaker 1: moments that are more important to me than the immaculate reception.

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02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:08,560
Speaker 1: So you know, you can, you can say what you want.

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02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 1: I would disagree, because there's a hundred years of moments. Yeah,

2568
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 1: and we all have the ones that are important to us.

2569
02:09:15,120 --> 02:09:17,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. That's the most famous moment. No,

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02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the greatest. No, it's not

2571
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:22,440
Speaker 1: the most famous even that. Yeah, okay, Tom Brady to

2572
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:25,360
Speaker 1: this Part three, Tom Brady to the Raiders needs to happen.

2573
02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:28,360
Speaker 1: This was in the sb nation dot com. Of course,

2574
02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:31,720
Speaker 1: Derek Carr had a higher completion percentage through for same

2575
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:33,920
Speaker 1: yards finished with a higher quarterback raiding than Brady did

2576
02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 1: last year. But they need to put Brady in the

2577
02:09:37,160 --> 02:09:40,080
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders now in order to make that franchise

2578
02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 1: jump to as they write in the article, make the

2579
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:44,720
Speaker 1: Raiders a draw from the jump. While some of this

2580
02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 1: is probably accurate, Um, No, it doesn't need to happen. No,

2581
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:51,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't need to go to the Raiders. Raiders will

2582
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:53,440
Speaker 1: be fine with or without Tom Brady. This's false too.

2583
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 1: This is stupid. Yeah, that's yeah, that's like, yeah, it's

2584
02:09:57,320 --> 02:10:00,800
Speaker 1: a ridiculous premise because it presupposes the League's gonna make

2585
02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:04,200
Speaker 1: it happen, right, you know that's somebody, Come on, that's

2586
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:09,400
Speaker 1: that's lunacy. And besides that, when you think the league,

2587
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:13,720
Speaker 1: you think you think even the conspiracy theories, you think

2588
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:15,800
Speaker 1: the league really is interested in making Mark Davis a

2589
02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:17,840
Speaker 1: hero and all of this about going to Vegas, you think,

2590
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:20,640
Speaker 1: do you think they're really going to expend any resources

2591
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:24,400
Speaker 1: to help some team who relocated to a new new

2592
02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:26,840
Speaker 1: city and they're gonna I mean, come on, you know,

2593
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker a few minutes ago on the show just

2594
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 1: was talking about Brady to the Chargers. I think right

2595
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:35,160
Speaker 1: that they need to do something. The Chargers are in distress,

2596
02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:37,080
Speaker 1: they're floundering, and they got a new stadium they got

2597
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:39,440
Speaker 1: to play, and yes, they'll share the stadium. Brady to

2598
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:41,360
Speaker 1: the Chargers makes a whole lot more sense to me

2599
02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:43,920
Speaker 1: than Brady to the Raiders or just about anybody else

2600
02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:47,120
Speaker 1: except for the Patriots. Brady could prop up. Brady with

2601
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:50,160
Speaker 1: Hollywood along with him and his Hollywood wife and his

2602
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:53,480
Speaker 1: Hollywood family could prop up the Chargers and get them

2603
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:55,640
Speaker 1: going in Los Angeles in that new stadium. I can

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02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:58,880
Speaker 1: see that happening. It would take something like that because

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02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:01,840
Speaker 1: there is nobody going to their game, nobody that would

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02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:06,240
Speaker 1: make it happen. I mean nobody. Their home games were

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02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:11,919
Speaker 1: away games. People at every single team took over that stadium,

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02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:14,440
Speaker 1: that little pillbox of a stadium that the Chargers forced

2609
02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:18,400
Speaker 1: themselves into play, and that it's just there's close the

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02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:22,000
Speaker 1: economically and there's close to an embarrassment as the league

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Speaker 1: has right now, and Brady would solve that. There you go.

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. All right, So what have we learned from

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Speaker 1: rental company of the Buffalo Bills. What have we learned? Well,

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Speaker 1: we had a couple of good guests today, to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you. Andrew Brand joined us about the business

2621
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and he talked about the elite talent

2622
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Speaker 1: by the way he thinks his real leverage when it

2623
02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:13,200
Speaker 1: comes to contract negotiations in the NFL. Well, we thought

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02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 1: this year and last year with Aaron Donald, where you

2625
02:12:17,280 --> 02:12:22,200
Speaker 1: can disobey and disobey meanings, not showing up really and

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02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:26,160
Speaker 1: still get rewarded. And that happened an Tonio Brown, and

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02:12:26,240 --> 02:12:30,600
Speaker 1: that happens to Didavian Clowney, And that happened to Jalen Ramseys,

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02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:36,080
Speaker 1: and that happened to Aaron Donald, it happened to Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 1: So there are a handful of players that have exerted

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Speaker 1: their leverage, maybe more so this year than ever. So

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Speaker 1: there's something. But as I said, and I referenced Melvin Gordon,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, you better be special.

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Speaker 1: You really better be special. You can't just be very good.

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Speaker 1: Good point. Andrew Brant. We had Ross Tucker around earlier

2635
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Speaker 1: this hour and he talked about Patrick mahomes performance in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Here's what he said. He's obviously a

2637
02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:14,360
Speaker 1: ridiculous player to play that well when it was his

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Speaker 1: worst game ever and still be the MVP. Extremely impressive.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think he played very well the first fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty two minutes of the game, but the last eight

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Speaker 1: minutes when he had to he was perfect. It was

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Speaker 1: almost the exact opposite of Jimmy g who was pretty

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Speaker 1: good until the end when he had to be Ross

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Speaker 1: Tucker's take on Super Bowl fifty four. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: with Kyle Brant tomorrow. We'll get his take on the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He's always fun. He'll have something crazy to talk.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's and they were down in Miami

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Speaker 1: the entire In fact, they still might be down there

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Speaker 1: for all I know that now they were back in

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Speaker 1: New York today. Be good to talk to Kyle for

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Speaker 1: maybe or for the last time a year. I don't

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Speaker 1: know until we get there. We're talking with him tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Kyle be with us tomorrow. Production assistance from George Blast,

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